Rebel News Podcast - Meet Adam Soos! Rebel News welcomes Calgary-based reporter

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio only recording of my weekly Wednesday night

00:00:05.140 show, The Gun Show.

00:00:06.620 Tonight is an exciting show because I get to introduce you to a new team member, someone

00:00:14.420 who I will be working very closely with.

00:00:17.220 It's Adam Sose and he's our newest rebel reporter.

00:00:21.440 He's based in Calgary, very thoughtful about issues of conservatism and what he sees happening

00:00:28.620 during the pandemic and he's got this really great story about how he came to be a conservative

00:00:35.060 and it's literally the exact opposite of how it normally goes.

00:00:40.600 So I guess in that, there's hope.

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00:01:39.840 Meet the newest Rebel on the team.

00:01:51.220 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:53.760 I'm here with Adam Skelly of Adamson Barbecues.

00:02:14.480 Hard at work because we've got a massive lineup outside, so we're not going to take too much of his time.

00:02:19.540 Very important question I have to ask you, first of all, and then we'll get into the other stuff.

00:02:22.180 But who has better barbecue, Ontario or Alberta?

00:02:25.780 Hey, everybody. Thanks for tuning in.

00:02:27.520 I am momentarily back in my home studio, but not for long because I do have to run out

00:02:33.300 and cover yet another Fight the Fines case.

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00:03:05.900 Isn't that great?

00:03:07.000 Anyway, I thought that since we have a new Rebel team member,

00:03:13.440 you at home should probably get to know a little bit more about him.

00:03:17.300 And since I have this platform of a full-length show, I thought let's have a little sit-down,

00:03:25.320 get to know each other, let you get to know him, interview with our new Calgary reporter, Adam Sos.

00:03:33.180 Now, I have known Adam for a few years.

00:03:36.260 I think we travel in the same circles.

00:03:38.220 I've run into him at the March for Life.

00:03:41.200 I've run into him at anti-Trudeau protests.

00:03:44.840 And we have met each other at Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms events.

00:03:51.140 So I think Adam's right on brand.

00:03:54.440 I'm happy to have the help.

00:03:56.240 Sounds like Adam is going to hit the ground running,

00:03:59.160 and he really cares deeply about the things that matter to you and to me,

00:04:06.040 like civil liberties during the time of the pandemic and holding the government accountable.

00:04:12.480 So please enjoy this interview I recorded with my friend and newest colleague, Adam Sos, yesterday afternoon.

00:04:29.160 Thank you.

00:04:59.760 Adam, I think you might be a new face to some of our regular viewers,

00:05:07.680 although you've been around the conservative activism circles for quite some time,

00:05:12.760 and that's where I initially first met you.

00:05:15.840 Why don't you give us a little bit about your background?

00:05:19.840 Yeah, so I've got a pretty wide range of background.

00:05:22.580 It's funny, whenever someone asks, what are you doing these days, it's kind of a full-mouth answer.

00:05:26.740 Sure. So I did do for a while there, I did some political videos in the past.

00:05:30.480 I've worked on some campaigns.

00:05:32.380 I've also been rather involved in some church work.

00:05:35.060 So I've got a pretty wide array of sort of activism.

00:05:38.040 I've run into you at a few events.

00:05:39.240 I think we did a Trudeau town hall we attended, and we weren't allowed in, and the police visited us rather quickly.

00:05:46.200 And then I think I've acted as an official security guard for you at a March for Life or two.

00:05:50.880 So yeah, I've certainly been around the scene for quite a while, involved in a number of relevant topics, certainly.

00:05:59.560 Now, I guess, how did you get into conservatism?

00:06:07.320 Have you always been a conservative?

00:06:09.140 I feel like I've always been a conservative.

00:06:11.080 So when people ask me, like, why I am one, it's just like, why are you Catholic?

00:06:15.980 It's just what I am.

00:06:19.360 Are you sort of that same journey, or did you have, like, a moment where you decided you're a conservative?

00:06:25.380 Yeah, no.

00:06:26.120 So I was definitely on sort of a different trajectory.

00:06:29.280 I always had, like, a relatively sound sort of moral compass.

00:06:32.280 But my trajectory was, I grew up, like, in a household that was definitely not conservative.

00:06:40.080 It wasn't overtly liberal.

00:06:41.360 It wasn't particularly political, but definitely not conservative.

00:06:46.080 So it was sort of a coming of age for myself.

00:06:48.780 I was always something of a rebel, something of a contrarian.

00:06:52.160 Believe it or not, at one point, I had a giant mohawk and rocked the leopard print pants and went down that whole journey,

00:06:57.760 which some people may find hard to believe, but it's true.

00:06:59.620 I do. I find that very hard to believe.

00:07:01.760 Yeah, no, I'll show you pictures.

00:07:04.000 So, but I mean, always, there's always that spirit of rebellion and the spirit of sort of resistance.

00:07:09.340 Like, there's something not quite right, or something's afoot.

00:07:12.360 So I was always kind of challenging and questioning, never quite getting into trouble,

00:07:17.320 but always sort of on the cusp of trouble, figuring out what's kind of going on in society.

00:07:21.180 And then sort of entering university, I had an amazing professor.

00:07:25.060 He was actually a, he was a priest, but he was teaching me political science.

00:07:29.160 He had a doctorate in that, but he grew up in communist Poland.

00:07:32.580 So he had a firsthand experience of some of what was going on under communism.

00:07:36.920 And I'm like, maybe some of these presumptions that I have, though not fully engaged,

00:07:42.600 it's not like I was really sort of diving into it.

00:07:44.840 But once I started thinking about it, asking questions and starting to wonder, I was like,

00:07:49.480 you know what, maybe, maybe the government doesn't need to be so involved in everyone's life.

00:07:53.280 And that kind of sent me down a trajectory.

00:07:55.400 I had some great professors.

00:07:56.480 I got to read some great literature and yeah, I trended away from that authoritarianism

00:08:01.500 and more towards individual freedoms, individual accountability and responsibility.

00:08:07.660 That blows my mind.

00:08:08.580 You are like the rare person that went to university and came out a conservative

00:08:13.560 instead of going to university as a conservative and coming in a liberal.

00:08:18.560 That's fascinating to me.

00:08:20.720 It's well, and I mean, it's funny.

00:08:21.840 I definitely appreciate that.

00:08:23.080 But what university, especially humanities, because I have a major in English, minor in

00:08:27.000 political science, what that is supposed to do is enable you to think critically.

00:08:32.520 Unfortunately, what universities have become is these sort of homogenous thought creators.

00:08:37.500 So I think I took more from it than what they were sort of directing me towards.

00:08:41.340 So yeah, but yeah, that's an interesting observation for sure.

00:08:45.540 Now that you've brought it up, it wasn't on my list of things to ask you about, but since

00:08:50.760 you have this weird life journey that sort of formed you in university, what's going on

00:08:59.160 with universities right now with, as you say, these homogenous thought factories, why is

00:09:07.600 that happening?

00:09:08.180 And I guess as people outside of university, but I supposed to have kids approaching university,

00:09:14.820 how do we, how do we change that as conservatives?

00:09:20.020 How do we sort of level?

00:09:21.380 I guess my question is, how do we level the playing field?

00:09:23.960 Because we don't want universities to be places where they crank out conservatives.

00:09:28.040 We want universities to be places where they teach you how to think.

00:09:31.360 And I think that the people will naturally come to conservatism because it's the better

00:09:36.520 idea.

00:09:37.260 But how do we teach them to think?

00:09:39.820 Yeah.

00:09:40.220 So, I mean, I think it starts in the home, like parents are the primary educators.

00:09:45.580 And I think that we need to start having conversations in the home.

00:09:49.820 This idea that we don't talk about these certain set topics, politics or religion or in the

00:09:54.440 household, I think is the fundamental issue.

00:09:56.760 Because basically people aren't being exposed to these ideas until they get to university.

00:10:01.620 So when you're in university, you're supposed to be like an adult and have your foreign conscience

00:10:05.520 and you're supposed to start wrestling with ideas.

00:10:07.900 Because what we have is sort of delayed adolescence.

00:10:10.500 These people are entering university and they're not at a point where they're mentally mature

00:10:14.460 enough to argue or engage with ideas.

00:10:16.780 So the first time they read Nietzsche, they're like, oh, well, this is it.

00:10:19.740 I'm like, no, this is one of the many ideas out there that you can sort of dive into.

00:10:24.440 So I think parents forming them to be resilient and to be able to wrestle and struggle with

00:10:28.900 different ideas is the crux of it.

00:10:32.040 I never thought of it that way.

00:10:33.560 I always thought of it as, you know, university professors are just brainwashing our kids and

00:10:38.060 only exposing them to one idea.

00:10:40.400 But I guess, as you say, much of the responsibility falls on parents who are delaying adolescence,

00:10:48.500 bubble wrapping their kids, preventing them from thinking about uncomfortable ideas.

00:10:54.900 Yeah.

00:10:55.180 And I think if kids have that life experience, they're going to go into the university like

00:10:59.720 rapidly.

00:11:00.120 I think probably in the first year or two, the first year I was just kind of there absorbing

00:11:04.500 things.

00:11:05.740 And I think probably along the lines of like Lindsay Shepard's story where she wasn't

00:11:09.000 necessarily trying to cause a ruckus.

00:11:11.240 She was just engaging with ideas in a reasonable fashion.

00:11:14.440 And everyone kind of turned on her.

00:11:17.400 My best university professors that I had were like thrilled.

00:11:21.020 And I went to a relatively small university, but I had some world-class professors.

00:11:23.960 If you like argued with them in class or challenged them, they loved it.

00:11:28.020 My more sort of liberally inclined professors, if you were to challenge them or ask questions

00:11:32.520 and not just inhale everything they were sort of dishing out there, they were like upset

00:11:36.640 or they didn't like you.

00:11:38.280 So I think that that capacity, and I mean, probably we're going to talk about some other

00:11:42.300 things in government today.

00:11:43.180 But one of the biggest issues, there's so much talk in society about discourse and like

00:11:48.120 interacting with ideas and stuff.

00:11:49.920 But we say that, but then the actuality is if you don't go with the sort of march line

00:11:55.040 that's set out for everybody, you're cancel culture.

00:11:59.140 You know, as you're writing that down, I was thinking, or as you were saying that, I was

00:12:05.400 writing down something because a recent government announcement sort of ties this all together.

00:12:11.600 We talk about civil discourse, but we don't really mean civil discourse.

00:12:14.620 We mean talking politely all about the same thing and thinking the exact same thing about

00:12:19.980 it.

00:12:20.400 And I think that could not be more evidenced in the new coming censorship bureaucracy that's

00:12:28.420 being created by the liberals.

00:12:29.740 We're being promised that there will be internet censorship in two weeks or so.

00:12:35.420 And they're saying it's, you know, on the basis of safety.

00:12:40.160 We need to protect you, I guess, from certain ideas.

00:12:45.080 And I think going back to your comments about university, this is just only going to make

00:12:49.140 things worse and worse and worse for society.

00:12:51.260 It actually polarizes everybody because we have the people who want to talk about things

00:12:57.420 versus the people who don't want to hear any other side of the conversation.

00:13:00.980 It's not even conservatives versus liberals anymore.

00:13:03.380 It's the people who think that we should talk about things and people who think we should

00:13:08.680 only think one way about certain ideas.

00:13:11.060 Yeah.

00:13:12.400 No, yeah, I certainly agree.

00:13:14.260 Now, coming to Rebel, I mean, that's a, it's a choice.

00:13:22.600 And it's, I'm excited.

00:13:25.760 It's a fun job, I think, because as rebels, we get to advocate for things that we care about,

00:13:32.180 not just talk about things.

00:13:34.180 But when I come upon someone who's on their very worst day, they got a ticket, their business

00:13:40.060 is being closed by the government.

00:13:41.980 I feel like I'm there to tell their story and humanize what these big government decisions

00:13:47.640 are doing to little people.

00:13:49.700 But I'm also grateful that I have the opportunity to offer them some help.

00:13:54.000 And so I guess I wanted to ask you, first of all, why you wanted to be a rebel?

00:14:00.260 And secondarily, what are some of the things that you really want to focus on?

00:14:05.140 Because I think unlike people in the mainstream media, I think we have a lot of freedom.

00:14:09.680 And you'll find that out so far.

00:14:12.060 To talk about the things that matter to you and maybe the things, frankly, that nobody

00:14:18.340 else is talking about.

00:14:20.780 Yeah.

00:14:21.300 So, I mean, I think as far as the choice to join Rebel, I think there was more of a civic

00:14:26.540 responsibility, to be honest.

00:14:28.080 I think that there's, like we were talking about before, there's a lack of genuine dialogue.

00:14:33.720 The amount of people out there who might blast Rebel news in a tweet who've never watched

00:14:38.620 Rebel or who haven't talked to you or I or as there are many of the other wonderful people

00:14:43.320 involved in Rebel.

00:14:44.720 We're human beings and we're sharing ideas, much like many other media outlets might be

00:14:49.200 doing.

00:14:49.820 And it's good.

00:14:50.520 Whether I like or disagree with a media outlet, it's important for me to check out those

00:14:54.280 different perspectives and learn from them.

00:14:56.480 So I think that Rebel is an essential voice, whether you agree with it or not.

00:15:02.780 But as far as my experience and my sort of decision to come over to Rebel, like I said,

00:15:09.080 I think it was something that just had to be done when I was first talking to Ezra.

00:15:13.200 Obviously, lots of people are in difficult times right now.

00:15:15.800 Generally, I've been involved in like politics or church work or something where there's been

00:15:19.620 like a real struggle and I was scared.

00:15:21.540 I was almost going to have to get a job where I wouldn't get to fight for something.

00:15:24.500 So I'm extremely happy to be somewhere where I can be standing up and sort of making a

00:15:29.120 difference for people.

00:15:30.600 And like you said, there's small businesses out there like these people aren't political

00:15:34.900 animals.

00:15:35.640 They're not trying to make a point.

00:15:37.100 They have kids in school and they have medical bills or they have car payments that they have

00:15:43.500 to make.

00:15:44.260 And these little government subsidies to try and help them pay their rent, it doesn't cover

00:15:48.460 the rest of their costs.

00:15:50.060 These are people who are just trying to get by.

00:15:51.900 And after 13 months of regulations that are inconsistent and perpetually changing, they're

00:15:58.160 just trying to pay their bills.

00:15:59.700 They're just trying to take care of their families.

00:16:01.200 So I think going to bat for those people is incredibly important. 1.00

00:16:06.780 I think also just generally standing up for freedoms.

00:16:09.540 We've seen a trend in society of freedoms just evaporating.

00:16:13.760 And C.S. Lewis, I'm going to paraphrase, but said something to the effect that like the

00:16:19.120 do-gooders who are ruling with tyranny for your good are the most damaging because they

00:16:24.300 don't think that they're doing something wrong.

00:16:26.260 They think that they're helping everybody.

00:16:27.660 So providing that contradiction to those sort of tyrannical do-gooders out there is, I

00:16:33.060 think, an essential position.

00:16:35.300 So for you, what are some of the issues that you see growing out of the pandemic?

00:16:41.540 Because for me, this thing has been the largest civil liberties infringement in my lifetime.

00:16:50.820 And it is being sold to us, as you rightly point out, as help, as kindness, as virtue.

00:16:58.300 Stay home, watch Netflix, get diabetes and heart disease through your lethargic lifestyle and

00:17:05.300 sedentary nature, because that's being a good neighbor.

00:17:12.620 What do you think are some of the worst things that are growing out of the pandemic?

00:17:19.180 What are you seeing?

00:17:20.820 So, yeah, I think there's like a polarization in society where everyone thinks they're the

00:17:27.400 good guy.

00:17:27.960 So stay at home, lock down, shut everything down.

00:17:29.960 That's the only way to be the good guy.

00:17:31.920 When you have conversations with people who have that perspective, and often analogies

00:17:36.340 are the best way to get a point across.

00:17:37.840 So I'll say someone's invested their life savings.

00:17:40.320 They're responsible for the whole family.

00:17:41.980 They're taking care of their business.

00:17:43.940 They've done all of those things.

00:17:46.320 And now the government is shutting down their business and they may lose their business.

00:17:49.260 This isn't just being fired from some job you have.

00:17:51.480 This is their entire livelihoods sunk into this.

00:17:54.800 And they're weighing losing all of that, not being able to provide for their family, everything

00:18:00.540 going out the window versus one of the statistics.

00:18:04.060 Like the average age of death is 81 with COVID.

00:18:07.580 The survival rate is extremely high.

00:18:11.220 So if you're talking about losing everything you've worked for versus this minor risk from

00:18:15.020 a disease, the logical sort of perspective on that is quite different.

00:18:20.020 But beyond the polarization, I think one of the most concerning things is this like Orwellian

00:18:25.940 government speak, where what they're saying changes every two weeks, every 24 hours sometimes.

00:18:34.180 This doesn't cause blood clots.

00:18:35.540 This does cause blood clots.

00:18:36.820 And you can say what the medical research is saying and you're called a conspiracy theorist.

00:18:42.700 And then the next day the government's saying it and it's like we're at war with Eurasia

00:18:46.200 and we're jumping back and forth.

00:18:47.900 Like they're completely changing what they say from day to day, but they act as though,

00:18:51.700 no, no, that's what we've always said.

00:18:53.880 And no, like what we said yesterday is not what we've said today.

00:18:56.860 And they're not being honest or transparent.

00:19:00.040 It's like they're saying it dogmatically.

00:19:01.720 And the next day they're saying something contradictory in a dogmatic fashion.

00:19:06.640 So I think the level of government accountability has been on the decline recently.

00:19:12.140 These aren't the days anymore where our prime minister is railroaded for an $80,000 spending

00:19:16.840 scandal.

00:19:17.760 We're talking about billions of dollars, lost infrastructure projects, an absolute disaster.

00:19:23.060 The political spectrum has just shifted to such a dramatic degree that something needs to

00:19:27.680 be done about it.

00:19:28.320 Yeah, as you were saying that, I was thinking about how it was racist to close the border

00:19:34.340 and then it wasn't racist to close the border literally within the same week when the liberals

00:19:39.000 did it.

00:19:39.560 And we're all just supposed to be hard of remembering and not remember five days earlier

00:19:44.560 when they called us racist for saying, well, maybe we shouldn't be taking a bunch of flights

00:19:49.080 from the viral hot zone.

00:19:50.780 Now, I think for me, one of the most disappointing things in the pandemic, if that were even possible,

00:19:59.200 because the whole thing is just a disaster.

00:20:01.600 But the people who are supposed to stand up for our rights are really not.

00:20:07.340 I think the greatest disappointments in all of this have been the conservative governments,

00:20:11.360 who I don't think would have acted any differently than a liberal government.

00:20:16.160 And when you look at Jason Kenney in Alberta, he started off strong during the pandemic,

00:20:22.180 a more hands-off approach to civil liberties.

00:20:24.760 And then these days, if you want to see what Jason Kenney is going to do a week from now,

00:20:30.240 pay attention to Rachel Notley last week.

00:20:32.940 And here we are.

00:20:34.060 And I think one of the greatest examples of this is the Grace Life Church.

00:20:38.260 Rachel Notley was literally tweeting, lock down the church. 1.00

00:20:41.940 And then a week later, Alberta Health Services, under Jason Kenney, rolls in with the RCMP,

00:20:48.400 private security and fencing contractors, and locks up the church.

00:20:52.960 What's going on with these conservative governments?

00:20:55.180 You've been a conservative activist for a long time.

00:20:57.280 You know a lot of these people personally.

00:20:59.820 What is directing them right now?

00:21:02.760 So, I mean, I think on a fundamental level, Jason Kenney, unfortunately, Jason Kenney, I know him.

00:21:09.680 Um, he's still very much rooted in Eastern Canada.

00:21:15.140 Um, so, well, Ontario may have a conservative Ford government.

00:21:19.520 Um, it's not a conservative government.

00:21:22.040 And as Ford so proudly proclaimed, they have the strongest lockdown measures anywhere.

00:21:26.720 Um, I was actually at a meeting, and, uh, the education minister in Alberta was there,

00:21:32.420 and a number of other people.

00:21:33.560 And this was, like, the first week of, of all this sort of happening.

00:21:37.420 And, uh, it came out through a text that Ontario was going to be closing their schools.

00:21:43.120 Um, so we got this.

00:21:44.220 We're all sitting in this meeting, supposed to be talking about something else.

00:21:46.140 And then these texts come through that the Ontario schools are closing.

00:21:49.900 And I won't, I won't quote it, because you'll have to beep it out.

00:21:52.400 But, uh, the response from the education minister was, it wasn't, well, what are we going to do for Albertans?

00:21:57.000 It was, like, we're, we're automatically going to have to follow suit, because we can't think for ourselves. 0.81

00:22:01.220 This mentality that, that Alberta is just the little brother to Ontario, and we have to follow suit, is ridiculous.

00:22:06.520 Um, Jason Kenney's starting to start making decisions for himself and for the people who voted for him.

00:22:10.980 Um, I think, I think the temperament of conservatism, it's part of the reason they lost the election.

00:22:16.460 It's part of the reason that there's been weak leadership, um, is they don't want to lose anything.

00:22:21.940 They're not fighting to win anything.

00:22:23.740 They're not doing their best to be the best for Canadians.

00:22:26.380 Um, same thing with COVID.

00:22:28.480 They're not, they're not trying to fight it in the most effective mechanism possible or following the scientific evidence.

00:22:33.040 They're avoiding a loss.

00:22:34.380 They don't want to get sued.

00:22:35.400 They don't want to be accountable.

00:22:36.600 So they're going to do the most.

00:22:37.800 And they're going to follow, they're going to follow Big Brother Ontario, rather than making decisions based on the evidence.

00:22:43.420 Yeah, I guess it's the difference between the official conservative types, like the conservative leadership, conservative party,

00:22:51.860 people who work within the party mechanism, and actual conservatives is, um, the official conservatives, as you say, they don't want to lose anything.

00:23:01.180 They, they don't want to be controversial.

00:23:03.260 Um, even if that's exactly the thing that's supported by their base.

00:23:07.700 And because of that, we see constant fracturings in the conservative movement.

00:23:11.820 And I feel as though we could be on our way towards one here in Alberta, where we see a fracture of, you know, rural versus urban conservatives, the anti-lockdown conservative caucus, um, the ones who signed the letter here in Alberta versus, you know, the people who want to hang on to power in Calgary and some of suburban, um, Edmonton.

00:23:34.640 And it's one of the best things about conservatives, but it's one of the worst things about conservatives, if you want to get them into power is, uh, principles.

00:23:43.200 Well, exactly.

00:23:44.560 And I've said this to numerous friends and most of them after a while are kind of like, yeah, you know, maybe I was actually, I was at a local small business in Calgary.

00:23:52.540 Um, and it's like a sauna steam kind of place.

00:23:54.760 And there was a guy in there, and I guess he was like a super active NDP guy.

00:23:57.980 Um, and we were, we were talking about the sort of, uh, the differences between liberals or conservatives.

00:24:04.160 Wait, you were talking to someone on the other side of the spectrum.

00:24:07.460 I was, it's crazy.

00:24:08.920 I know it's scary.

00:24:10.160 Um, and one of the things that he said is like probably true, um, is that conservatives, if our, like you said, the principles, if, if our politicians aren't adhering to the principles, we don't reinforce them just because they're our guy.

00:24:23.240 Yeah.

00:24:23.740 We don't do that.

00:24:24.680 We'll take them down and find someone else who's, who's principled or who, at least for the time being, until they're elected and becomes compromised.

00:24:31.440 Um, we do that time and time again.

00:24:33.600 Uh, conversely, you, you look at the federal polls right now, the liberals are gaining, like whether you're pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine, like Justin Trudeau has been the worst at getting vaccines.

00:24:43.780 And you look at the price Canadians are paying, like we're paying the most, I think, out of any country.

00:24:48.360 Um, some countries are paying 250, 255 per vaccine.

00:24:52.020 Um, I think the United States is paying about $5 a vaccine.

00:24:55.440 Canada's paying $9 a vaccine and we can't even get them.

00:24:58.320 Like the entire world is going to get their vaccines in Canada.

00:25:01.620 So even if you're on the side of the liberals, Justin Trudeau has categorically failed at something that, that most liberals are probably inclined towards, which is very much, let's get vaccinated right now.

00:25:11.680 Um, he can screw up over and over and over and have scandal and scandal and scandal that dwarf anything, frankly, the conservatives have done, barring maybe these lockdown measures, which are extreme.

00:25:21.660 But he just gains in the polls because he's their guy.

00:25:25.560 And I think that's extremely concerning.

00:25:26.980 So, yeah, it is, it is sort of the saving grace of the conservative movement that we are principled, but very often in practical day-to-day terms, it ends up costing elections.

00:25:36.760 I think so.

00:25:37.520 Yeah, that, that blind loyalty to a leader, we just don't do it and it leads to electoral losses, but at least you can sleep at night.

00:25:47.360 But, uh, Adam, um, we're, I think, heading into federal election readiness, uh, looks that way with the liberals.

00:25:57.000 They've finally released a budget, all kinds of horrible things, shoehorned into that.

00:26:02.200 I don't want to get into the fine details of the budget, but I do want to get into, um, the conservative strategy.

00:26:10.300 It would seem of being basically liberals in blue ties.

00:26:17.520 Aaron O'Toole just released his carbon tax platform that they want me to believe isn't a carbon tax or say it's a levy.

00:26:24.740 But I remember these exact same conservatives saying, Rachel Notley, that's a carbon tax.

00:26:30.620 Quit saying it's a levy because it does practically the same thing in practice.

00:26:34.900 Um, what do you think is going to happen in the next 12 months in federal politics?

00:26:44.580 Are we headed into an election?

00:26:46.040 And, and I guess what becomes of Aaron O'Toole?

00:26:48.760 There's not enough time to switch to the leader, is there?

00:26:50.840 Even though he's plummeting in the polls.

00:26:53.020 Yeah.

00:26:53.340 And I mean, I know there are a number of, I think that there is sometimes consideration and important space for like pragmatic decision making.

00:27:02.000 Um, you, you have to stick to your principles, but sometimes it's like, okay, there might be an election within a year.

00:27:08.140 There can't be a new leader.

00:27:09.660 Do we want Justin Trudeau?

00:27:11.740 Um, or do we want Aaron O'Toole?

00:27:14.020 Right.

00:27:14.940 So that, I think at a certain point that that becomes a conversation you have to have within your, within sort of yourself.

00:27:20.140 And the reality of the situation is, like I said before, the conservatives are just trying not to lose.

00:27:24.880 Um, despite Jason Kenney and, and, uh, Mr. Ford in Ontario, um, completely collapsing, despite having power.

00:27:32.200 Um, my hope would be that possibly federally, if they were to be elected, they, they might trend away from some of the stuff.

00:27:39.420 I think the biggest problem though, is that Aaron O'Toole is one of his big things.

00:27:43.720 Originally, part of the reasons that he wasn't maybe necessarily my first choice, but, um, he was like, uh, canceled or defund the CBC.

00:27:51.020 And, uh, no carbon tax.

00:27:53.640 We're going to nuke that right away.

00:27:54.540 Those were the two things that most conservatives were like, you know what, this, as long as he sticks to those.

00:27:59.040 Those are big blue tent issues.

00:28:00.900 Doesn't matter what kind of conservative you are.

00:28:02.720 You're like, yep, I'm, I'm fine with that.

00:28:05.380 So he's back to, he's backed away from both those things.

00:28:08.640 And he, he, he might win the election if he just came back and said, actually, no, we're completely scrapping this.

00:28:12.940 My biggest honest concern with the carbon tax, the, the carbon levy or whatever the conservatives want to call it, um, is it's, it's like a, some parts of it are,

00:28:21.020 some parts of it are significantly better than what the liberals are doing.

00:28:24.700 Um, but the thing that really, really like gets to me in it is there's a lot of like eat the rich language in there,

00:28:30.880 which is like, so, so contradictory to leveled society, market success, like all of these things that we're supposed to be advocating for as a society.

00:28:41.460 There's just language in there.

00:28:42.720 That sounds like the communist party or sounds like the NDP.

00:28:45.360 Um, and I, I don't know what they were thinking, putting that in there.

00:28:48.440 Um, they, I've, I've looked at some of the polls and they're suggesting that they're willing to throw away, like maybe 8% of their sort of voting base with the hope of pulling 20% from the middle, um, is what they're kind of saying.

00:29:01.460 So they're like, well, we can lose some of the people who've been supporting us for all this years.

00:29:04.500 It doesn't really matter as long as we pull a few of these people over.

00:29:07.140 Um, the polls may reveal that, but we've seen how effective polls have been in recent years with numerous elections.

00:29:13.040 They don't really tell the full story.

00:29:14.940 Um, I think we have to return to an era of at least some semblance of, um, principled politics so that we know what we're dealing with.

00:29:23.640 I liked, uh, Ezra the other day was saying that he'll take like an honest liberal over a crooked, uh, conservative.

00:29:28.860 And I think that's a, that's a good mentality.

00:29:30.700 You vote for someone, you want to have at least some loose concept that they're not just going to ebb and flow with whatever CBC puts out in their latest article.

00:29:38.520 Um, we need politicians who aren't completely afraid of everything out there and who are actually standing up for something.

00:29:43.940 Jody Wilson-Raybould is a great example of that.

00:29:46.600 An honest liberal over a crooked conservative.

00:29:49.660 Adam, um, I guess in closing, what is in the pipe for you?

00:29:54.880 What are you working on right now?

00:29:56.720 Uh, working a lot.

00:29:57.820 So, I mean, one of the things that I definitely want to do a big plug for, and I think it's really important, is, is fight the fines.

00:30:02.620 Um, so rebel has taken it upon itself to, to go out and these businesses and these people who have been ticketed unfairly, um, some for absolutely ridiculous things.

00:30:12.080 Like one lady was ice fishing in the middle of nowhere and she wasn't wearing a mask and they gave her a ticket.

00:30:17.240 Like this stuff is absolutely laughable.

00:30:19.320 Um, so I'm going to be covering lots of stories.

00:30:22.100 I want to be an advocate for businesses and go out there and touch base with these businesses who have been really struggling.

00:30:27.300 Um, but there's like, like Ezra rebel, they've taken it upon themselves to provide lawyers for so many people.

00:30:33.460 And it's absolutely incredible.

00:30:34.540 Um, and it's actually done through fight the fines.com.

00:30:38.160 The funds go to a charitable organization.

00:30:39.960 So you're actually getting a tax receipt and instead of the money going to the government or going wherever, you're going to get some of that tax money back.

00:30:46.140 And you're helping people fight these outrageous fines.

00:30:48.820 Um, this is probably one of the biggest sort of civil, civil liberty initiatives in Canada right now.

00:30:54.140 Honestly, the, the, the level and the amount of people we're defending.

00:30:57.460 And it's not just that it's individual people.

00:30:59.960 Um, it's not just like we're fighting the ticket.

00:31:02.040 Each of those tickets represents a family and a story.

00:31:04.760 Um, and that's really kind of my hope for rebel.

00:31:06.840 What I'm going to be doing over the coming years, hopefully is standing up for small businesses, standing up for freedom, standing up for individuals, um, against an ever-growing tyrannical government.

00:31:16.460 I want to go to bat for the little guys.

00:31:18.160 You know, that's one of the things I'm most proud of over the last year here at rebel news is we've, we've really just through our civil liberties work become advocates for normal people.

00:31:29.820 People who just want to retain some normalcy during the pandemic, keep their business afloat, go to the park, go ice fishing, things that you should not be getting tickets for.

00:31:39.240 We're helping every single one of those people who reach out to us.

00:31:43.000 So far, we are approaching a thousand people in the fight the fines pipeline.

00:31:47.320 And some of those people, uh, have multiple tickets.

00:31:51.240 I don't like some of these protest organizers.

00:31:53.480 I get a text message.

00:31:54.540 Sheila got another ticket.

00:31:55.640 Sheila, I got another ticket.

00:31:56.980 You know what to do with it.

00:31:58.240 I mean, so there's so much work.

00:31:59.520 And I think though, that we are fighting for civil liberties by fighting alongside one Canadian at a time.

00:32:06.500 So I'm really proud of the work that we're doing.

00:32:08.720 I'm proud that you are willing to take on some of it.

00:32:11.720 And I'm confident that you are going to be a good advocate for all of those people.

00:32:16.580 Adam, thanks so much for joining me.

00:32:18.920 Um, thanks for giving me a half an hour of your time this morning and, uh, get out there and go fight for freedom.

00:32:25.100 Will do.

00:32:25.780 Thanks, Sheila.

00:32:26.480 Thanks.

00:32:26.780 Sounds like Adam is hitting the ground running.

00:32:39.540 And that's good news because here at Rebel News, we have never been busier.

00:32:44.860 Unlike our peers in the mainstream media who are reducing local news coverage, we think there's more news than ever.

00:32:53.400 And you just have to get out there and get it.

00:32:56.660 And sounds like Adam's going to do that for us.

00:32:58.940 And he's going to be helping people along the way, which is exactly what we mean to do here at Rebel News.

00:33:06.500 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:33:08.160 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:33:10.060 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week or not.

00:33:13.920 Who even knows?

00:33:15.220 But remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:33:23.400 I'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - April 22, 2021

Meet Adam Soos! Rebel News welcomes Calgary-based reporter

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