Rebel News Podcast - April 01, 2021


Ontario prepares new digital ID card for your vaccine status


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Alexa, do you remember when there was a device that let you pay for things with your hands? That's not what the Amazon Palm is about. It's a system that scans your body and you pay that way using a scanner. Is this a Chinese-style social credit system coming to Canada?

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Have you seen that thing called the Amazon Palm, P-A-L-M? 0.99
00:00:05.240 You know, when I was a young man, there was something called the Palm Pilot.
00:00:08.700 It was like a precursor to a Blackberry, which was the precursor to the iPhone.
00:00:13.260 It was like a day timer and it was digital. It's pretty cool.
00:00:16.580 Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about.
00:00:17.900 I'm talking about an Amazon system that lets you pay by waving your hand in front of a scanner.
00:00:26.360 It scans your body and you pay that way.
00:00:32.080 Hey, anyone think that's going to be wired to our vaccine passports?
00:00:35.020 I'll take you through it. I'll show you the Amazon Palm.
00:00:37.380 Talk about other violations of our privacy and our liberty.
00:00:40.840 That's ahead, but before I get there, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.
00:00:46.540 Just go to rebelnews.com, click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month. I'd really appreciate it.
00:00:50.240 You know, in today's podcast, I'm going to play a video about Amazon Palm.
00:00:56.360 I just really want you to see it. It's actually an ad from Amazon itself.
00:01:00.700 This isn't some speculative conspiracy theory.
00:01:03.920 It is an Amazon ad for the Amazon Palm payment system.
00:01:09.760 You don't have to have your phone on you.
00:01:11.960 You pay with a scan of your hands.
00:01:15.780 That is straight out of Minority Report with Tom Cruise.
00:01:19.440 All right, here's today's show.
00:01:20.740 Tonight, Ontario gets ready to roll out a new digital ID card
00:01:40.360 that will hold your vaccine status on it.
00:01:43.280 Here comes the Chinese-style social credit system. 0.70
00:01:46.920 It's March 31st, and this is the answer of a man's show. 0.76
00:01:52.040 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:55.760 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:59.820 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it
00:02:03.460 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:02:05.680 Do you want to see something creepy? Look at this.
00:02:13.960 This is Zoe.
00:02:15.600 Just like you, she uses lots of different cards and IDs to get through her day. 0.99
00:02:20.400 What if all Zoe needed was herself?
00:02:22.920 Introducing Amazon One, a free service that lets you use your palm
00:02:27.960 to quickly pay for things, gain access, earn rewards, and more.
00:02:32.940 Let's say you're grabbing your favorite coffee beverage,
00:02:36.180 or heading into the office, or checking out.
00:02:40.240 Just hover your palm, and you're on your way.
00:02:42.720 It's as easy as that.
00:02:44.180 Sign up is free and takes less than a minute.
00:02:46.640 All you need is a credit card, your phone number, and your palm.
00:02:49.840 That's it.
00:02:51.600 Since your palm is unique and can't be lost or misplaced,
00:02:54.920 you can get things done quickly and securely.
00:02:57.840 And with more experiences on the way,
00:03:00.080 Amazon One will help you get even more done, simply by being you.
00:03:05.000 Now, Zoe has more time to do what she loves, 0.99
00:03:08.420 indoor skydiving.
00:03:10.060 Enter, identify, and pay with Amazon One.
00:03:15.900 That's an official video by Amazon.
00:03:18.120 That's the massive company that knows more about you than you know about you,
00:03:22.660 because you forget some things that you've said or done,
00:03:25.700 and Amazon doesn't forget. 1.00
00:03:27.440 We sell things through Amazon here at Rebel News, books mainly.
00:03:32.440 Amazon pays us money for it, but they never tell us who bought the books.
00:03:37.060 They know every single person who ever bought a book from us,
00:03:40.120 and they know everything else those people have ever bought,
00:03:42.600 and even looked at but didn't buy.
00:03:44.860 That's how Amazon works.
00:03:45.820 That's how they make their money.
00:03:46.920 Sure, they sell things, and they make money from each sale.
00:03:50.120 They get money from every book they sell for us,
00:03:52.280 but they get something much more valuable.
00:03:54.280 They know all of our customers, and even we don't know them.
00:03:58.660 I don't know who buys our book on Amazon.
00:04:01.220 Who do they share that information with?
00:04:02.860 Mainly themselves, I think,
00:04:04.420 so they can market similar products to their own customers.
00:04:08.400 I don't know.
00:04:08.940 Do they also share it with governments?
00:04:11.420 I bet Justin Trudeau would like to know the name of every single person
00:04:14.000 who bought my book, The Libranos.
00:04:16.040 I bet he'd like to know the name of everyone who even looked at it online
00:04:19.620 but didn't actually purchase it.
00:04:21.280 Who else has that info?
00:04:22.880 Does China?
00:04:24.580 Where does Amazon store their data?
00:04:27.540 They're all like that, by the way.
00:04:29.080 I'm actually more worried about Google and Facebook,
00:04:32.280 because Amazon is just shopping,
00:04:33.980 and that's a big deal financially,
00:04:36.100 but Facebook, it's everything personal.
00:04:39.480 It's all your family photos,
00:04:41.780 all your private conversations with people.
00:04:44.480 It's your list of friends,
00:04:45.420 and even more, it's everyone and everything you've even just looked at.
00:04:49.980 Google's probably the biggest everything you've ever searched for.
00:04:53.700 If you have Gmail, everything you've ever written or read.
00:04:57.420 And again, unlike you, they never forget.
00:04:59.800 They never forget what you wrote 10 years ago.
00:05:01.700 I think we all know now when some app is free,
00:05:05.660 it's not free, it's just that you are being bought and sold.
00:05:09.920 Here's just an example.
00:05:11.720 It's the Terms of Service for Instagram,
00:05:14.620 the popular photo and video sharing app that Facebook just bought.
00:05:19.660 It has over a billion users, mainly young people,
00:05:24.000 but look at this.
00:05:25.320 When you upload a photo to Instagram,
00:05:27.540 you are granting Instagram, which is owned by Facebook,
00:05:30.940 a license to do whatever they want with it.
00:05:34.820 Let me read.
00:05:35.300 When you share, post, or upload content
00:05:39.200 that is covered by intellectual property rights like photos or videos,
00:05:43.540 honoring connection with our service,
00:05:45.800 you hereby grant to us
00:05:47.620 a non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable,
00:05:51.580 sub-licensable, worldwide license
00:05:53.840 to host, use, distribute, modify, run, copy, publicly perform,
00:05:59.520 or display, translate, and create derivative works of your content
00:06:04.380 consistent with your privacy and application settings.
00:06:08.600 They give you some examples of this.
00:06:10.340 You give us permission to show your username, profile picture,
00:06:15.080 and information about your actions, such as likes,
00:06:18.500 or relationships, such as follows,
00:06:21.140 next to or in connection with accounts,
00:06:23.520 ads, offers, and other sponsored content
00:06:25.660 that you follow or engage with
00:06:27.680 that are displayed on Facebook products
00:06:29.320 without any compensation to you.
00:06:31.620 They have billions of photos
00:06:34.620 and they have the rights to use them without paying you.
00:06:38.500 Imagine what they're doing with those photos.
00:06:40.820 Imagine the facial recognition technology.
00:06:45.340 Imagine what they know about you
00:06:46.780 and you just gave it to them for free.
00:06:50.800 There are apps that appear every now and then
00:06:52.680 that look pretty fun to play with.
00:06:54.520 You upload a photo
00:06:55.700 and it shows you what it thinks
00:06:57.260 you'd look like as a painting
00:06:59.100 or as an old person
00:07:00.640 and now there are apps that graft your face
00:07:03.960 onto a historical figure
00:07:05.400 like a deep fake.
00:07:07.760 There's video faces.
00:07:09.500 Those are fun.
00:07:10.780 But why are they free?
00:07:13.540 Well, because you are building
00:07:15.060 their huge database for them.
00:07:16.980 That's why.
00:07:17.600 Is that really free?
00:07:19.840 Governments love this, obviously,
00:07:21.700 and they've been doing it in other ways historically.
00:07:24.700 The other day, we saw a strange thing
00:07:26.480 at a church in Calgary
00:07:27.920 that gets harassed every weekend
00:07:29.760 by the police and the thugs
00:07:31.700 at Alberta Health Services.
00:07:33.800 You probably know that it's a crime
00:07:35.580 to disturb a religious service in Canada.
00:07:38.540 It's literally in the criminal code,
00:07:40.400 section 176.2.
00:07:43.280 And yet every weekend,
00:07:44.320 government thugs go into that church
00:07:46.880 in the middle of a service
00:07:48.040 and interrupt and disturb
00:07:49.480 and take photos of everyone in there.
00:07:51.400 Cops with guns walk in.
00:07:53.200 It's a disgrace.
00:07:54.500 But the other day when we were at that church,
00:07:56.360 we saw some guy
00:07:57.860 from Alberta Health Services
00:07:59.840 coming to the church
00:08:00.600 with a huge backpack on.
00:08:03.340 What, was he going camping?
00:08:05.320 It was really conspicuous, really weird.
00:08:07.400 What was in the backpack?
00:08:09.000 Well, an ex-cop friend of mine
00:08:10.900 said he thought it was this,
00:08:13.640 an electronic spying device
00:08:15.820 that can get the information
00:08:18.040 from every cell phone in the building.
00:08:20.440 So if you were a churchgoer
00:08:23.000 and had a phone on you
00:08:24.160 in your pocket, in your purse,
00:08:25.880 and most people do,
00:08:27.660 the ringer would probably be off
00:08:28.860 because they're in church,
00:08:29.840 but they'd have their phone on.
00:08:31.660 Well, this device in the backpack
00:08:33.220 would be able to hack your info,
00:08:35.260 find out who you are.
00:08:36.920 I don't know if that's exactly
00:08:39.140 what was in the backpack.
00:08:40.320 They won't tell us.
00:08:41.500 But it's an awfully strange thing
00:08:43.340 to take into a church,
00:08:44.400 a huge backpack.
00:08:45.100 And if you're already willing
00:08:47.100 to break the criminal code laws
00:08:48.780 against disturbing a church service,
00:08:50.600 you're probably fine with spying
00:08:52.360 on everyone in a church
00:08:53.960 without a search warrant.
00:08:55.300 That's really creepy, isn't it?
00:08:57.320 In the olden days,
00:08:58.500 by which I mean until about 15 years ago,
00:09:00.820 you would hear of security services
00:09:02.700 sweeping room for bugs, right?
00:09:05.420 By which they mean listening devices.
00:09:07.420 But really, you don't need to plant a bug
00:09:09.760 on anything these days, do you?
00:09:11.640 We each carry a bug around with us.
00:09:14.020 We hold it within arm's reach of ourselves.
00:09:16.220 We sleep with it next to us.
00:09:18.700 And of course, it's always listening.
00:09:20.780 Not just your phone.
00:09:21.900 It's everything these days.
00:09:23.560 People actually put listening devices
00:09:25.120 in their own homes,
00:09:26.680 always listening to you to give it orders.
00:09:29.480 What is it?
00:09:30.700 You'll see.
00:09:33.960 Is it for me?
00:09:35.380 It's for everyone.
00:09:36.480 It's called Amazon Echo.
00:09:38.960 How's it going?
00:09:40.000 I'm just finishing up right now.
00:09:42.200 Is it on?
00:09:42.760 Oh, it's always on.
00:09:44.700 Can it hear me right now?
00:09:46.120 Nope.
00:09:46.720 It only hears you
00:09:47.380 when you use the wake word we chose.
00:09:48.940 Alexa.
00:09:49.700 Well, what does it do?
00:09:52.220 Alexa, what do you do?
00:09:53.900 I can play music,
00:09:55.260 answer questions,
00:09:56.460 get the news on weather,
00:09:57.860 create to-do lists,
00:09:58.900 and much more.
00:10:00.080 Yeah, no,
00:10:00.700 it is always listening.
00:10:02.120 Otherwise,
00:10:02.620 how would it hear
00:10:03.300 the wake-up word?
00:10:05.940 Ring brand doorbells.
00:10:07.720 You have one of those,
00:10:08.460 those little cameras
00:10:09.220 you put on your house
00:10:10.460 so you can see people
00:10:11.200 ringing the doorbell
00:10:11.920 or even just people driving by.
00:10:14.360 Amazon bought that company.
00:10:16.760 So yeah,
00:10:17.360 sweeping for bugs in your life.
00:10:19.660 We positively install cameras
00:10:21.880 in our own homes
00:10:22.880 connected to Amazon.
00:10:24.220 And here's an excerpt
00:10:24.880 from Ring's terms of service.
00:10:27.000 By electing to publicly
00:10:29.920 share your content
00:10:31.100 via our services
00:10:32.700 to other users
00:10:33.940 or the general public
00:10:34.880 in addition to the license
00:10:35.940 granted above,
00:10:37.000 you give Ring
00:10:37.920 the right
00:10:39.260 without any compensation
00:10:41.060 or obligation to you
00:10:42.440 to access and use your content
00:10:45.360 and related location information
00:10:47.700 for the purposes
00:10:48.800 of publicly sharing
00:10:50.040 such recordings
00:10:50.840 and information
00:10:51.840 with current and future users
00:10:53.320 and allowing those users
00:10:54.740 to comment on the content.
00:10:56.080 So they can use your content
00:10:58.540 by which they mean
00:10:59.160 what's in your camera
00:11:00.000 and by that they mean
00:11:01.540 your house,
00:11:03.520 your home,
00:11:04.480 the way you use it publicly
00:11:06.160 but also privately
00:11:08.320 they can share
00:11:09.220 your private videos
00:11:11.020 with the government.
00:11:12.100 Let me read
00:11:12.400 from their terms of service.
00:11:14.860 In addition to the rights
00:11:16.080 granted above,
00:11:17.160 you also acknowledge
00:11:17.900 and agree that Ring
00:11:18.740 may access, use, preserve
00:11:20.200 and or disclose
00:11:21.060 your content
00:11:22.300 to law enforcement authorities,
00:11:24.400 government officials
00:11:25.140 and or third parties.
00:11:27.400 So yeah,
00:11:27.840 is there anywhere
00:11:28.480 that's private anymore?
00:11:30.180 I have a friend
00:11:31.020 who uses a Faraday bag
00:11:32.920 to carry his cell phone around.
00:11:34.640 That's a bag
00:11:35.220 that blocks
00:11:36.420 the kind of signals
00:11:37.460 that Alberta health cops
00:11:39.280 use to spy on churchgoers.
00:11:41.140 It covers not just phones
00:11:42.660 but anything electronic
00:11:43.820 like a watch these days.
00:11:45.940 If you have a Nexus card,
00:11:47.560 that's something
00:11:48.420 that in the before times
00:11:49.500 lets you travel
00:11:50.620 back and forth
00:11:51.180 to the States
00:11:51.680 with quicker security checks.
00:11:52.760 They gave that card
00:11:54.220 to you in a foil package
00:11:55.960 for the same reason
00:11:57.160 to block snoopers.
00:11:59.700 I mean,
00:12:00.080 no one's crazier
00:12:00.840 than people
00:12:01.280 who wear tin foil hats
00:12:02.740 on their head, right?
00:12:04.180 But isn't that
00:12:05.740 what a Faraday bag is?
00:12:08.440 But what happens
00:12:09.260 when you have the phone
00:12:11.300 on your person?
00:12:13.440 What happens
00:12:14.020 when you now register
00:12:15.480 your face
00:12:16.080 with a tech company
00:12:17.120 either through Instagram
00:12:18.660 or a lot of phones
00:12:20.680 you just look at it,
00:12:22.260 they scan your face
00:12:23.360 before giving you
00:12:24.120 permission to access them.
00:12:25.860 Banks do that
00:12:26.600 on their banking apps now.
00:12:28.200 Your face is your ID.
00:12:29.920 Who's the kook now?
00:12:31.360 The guys with the tin foil hats
00:12:32.780 or the guys
00:12:33.320 who give their face
00:12:34.700 to the bank?
00:12:36.700 We're all spied on
00:12:37.920 all the time
00:12:38.560 and it's mostly
00:12:39.380 by us signing up
00:12:41.200 to be spied on
00:12:42.000 by Amazon or Google
00:12:42.820 or Facebook
00:12:43.260 or Apple
00:12:43.740 or Ring
00:12:45.260 or any website
00:12:46.340 we agree to.
00:12:47.140 Welcome to 2021.
00:12:47.960 But nothing is creepier
00:12:49.980 than that Amazon Palm Project.
00:12:52.060 It's like the worst
00:12:53.180 conspiracy theories
00:12:54.180 come true.
00:12:55.100 People have talked
00:12:55.840 about microchips
00:12:56.960 being implanted
00:12:57.940 in people.
00:12:59.080 It's an old fear
00:13:00.240 but it's really outdated
00:13:01.380 isn't it?
00:13:02.320 Why plant a chip on you
00:13:03.840 if you are the chip?
00:13:06.800 Why plant an identifiable
00:13:08.600 unique marker on you
00:13:10.560 if you are the unique marker
00:13:13.060 your fingerprint,
00:13:13.960 your face
00:13:14.380 and now your palm?
00:13:16.280 It's like my point before
00:13:17.420 there's no need
00:13:17.960 to plant bugs
00:13:18.720 in an embassy
00:13:19.320 because everyone
00:13:20.400 you want to spy on
00:13:21.400 is carrying their own bug
00:13:22.780 with them.
00:13:24.560 But here comes
00:13:25.420 the government.
00:13:26.560 Look at this.
00:13:27.960 New York
00:13:28.720 has introduced
00:13:29.500 a vaccine passport
00:13:30.740 that is like
00:13:31.620 a digital ID card
00:13:33.100 and they're working
00:13:34.180 with IBM on it
00:13:35.220 so IBM is running it.
00:13:37.560 Where will the information
00:13:38.600 pass through?
00:13:39.440 A lot of servers,
00:13:41.320 a lot of the computing cloud
00:13:42.680 is in China.
00:13:45.020 So is New York's
00:13:47.220 health vaccine info
00:13:48.360 going to be stored
00:13:50.120 in China?
00:13:51.700 Do we have to trust IBM?
00:13:53.580 I mean really?
00:13:54.960 In the lead up
00:13:55.500 to the Second World War
00:13:56.280 I don't know if you know this
00:13:57.060 but IBM bid for contracts
00:13:58.620 in Nazi Germany
00:14:00.180 using its information systems
00:14:01.680 at the time.
00:14:02.260 Obviously this was before
00:14:03.800 our modern computers
00:14:05.280 but IBM
00:14:06.060 International Business Machines
00:14:07.960 was an expert
00:14:08.680 in counting
00:14:09.640 and systems.
00:14:11.260 They did the census
00:14:12.140 for Hitler. 0.59
00:14:13.340 They were on Hitler's side. 0.93
00:14:15.380 They even got a medal
00:14:16.260 from him.
00:14:17.280 And that was 80 years ago
00:14:18.600 but look at this.
00:14:19.680 IBM is at it again
00:14:21.100 in Xinjiang, China.
00:14:23.640 That province's name
00:14:25.060 rings a bell.
00:14:25.640 That's the home
00:14:26.180 of the Uyghur Muslim
00:14:27.920 ethnic minority
00:14:29.100 that China's trying 0.87
00:14:30.800 to wipe out.
00:14:31.440 Here's a story
00:14:31.960 from a few years back
00:14:32.880 from a Chinese
00:14:33.860 propaganda newspaper
00:14:35.080 about IBM working
00:14:36.860 with the Chinese government
00:14:37.940 to make Xinjiang, China
00:14:40.420 totally wired.
00:14:41.540 Let me quote.
00:14:43.500 In August
00:14:44.160 Karame launched
00:14:45.580 a joint program
00:14:46.660 with IBM
00:14:47.220 to become a smart city.
00:14:49.900 The concept
00:14:50.560 proposed by IBM
00:14:52.240 thanks IBM
00:14:52.980 is based on technologies
00:14:54.980 such as
00:14:55.540 the Internet of Things
00:14:56.680 and cloud computing
00:14:58.380 and embraces
00:14:59.660 transportation
00:15:01.360 healthcare
00:15:02.260 and public security.
00:15:05.860 So Andrew Cuomo
00:15:07.320 chose IBM
00:15:08.460 to be in charge
00:15:09.340 of healthcare
00:15:09.840 and public security
00:15:10.800 in New York too.
00:15:12.800 They're running
00:15:13.440 the New York
00:15:13.880 vaccine passport now
00:15:15.000 because they learned
00:15:16.180 a lot by working
00:15:17.120 with the Chinese dictatorship
00:15:18.360 and their security services
00:15:20.280 in Xinjiang.
00:15:22.880 Great.
00:15:23.520 Again,
00:15:24.040 where is IBM
00:15:25.080 even storing the data?
00:15:26.240 Who are they sharing it with?
00:15:27.180 How does it get
00:15:28.220 to and from the app?
00:15:29.240 Does that pass
00:15:29.820 through China?
00:15:30.820 You seriously hired IBM.
00:15:32.420 You trust IBM.
00:15:33.160 Why don't you just hire Huawei
00:15:34.580 to have your vaccine
00:15:35.620 passport?
00:15:37.100 But here's my real news today.
00:15:39.080 It's not Amazon Palm
00:15:40.500 which I find creepy
00:15:41.440 and terrifying.
00:15:42.380 It's Doug Ford,
00:15:43.940 Ontario's authoritarian ruler.
00:15:46.060 What a dope.
00:15:47.440 If he even is the ruler,
00:15:49.440 I'm not even sure of that.
00:15:51.000 I'm going to be very frank.
00:15:52.040 There's no politician
00:15:52.760 in this country
00:15:53.380 who's going to disagree
00:15:54.780 with their chief medical officer.
00:15:57.340 They just aren't going to do it.
00:15:58.520 They might as well
00:15:58.900 throw a rope around their neck
00:15:59.820 and jump off a bridge.
00:16:00.720 They're done.
00:16:02.000 I'm telling you the facts.
00:16:03.080 It's very simple.
00:16:04.320 I don't know why
00:16:05.420 I bring all these papers.
00:16:06.580 I never look at them.
00:16:08.740 Oh, you're giving numbers.
00:16:09.780 I do.
00:16:10.080 I go, oh, oh, oh.
00:16:11.260 Did you really say that?
00:16:13.540 I just say whatever
00:16:14.640 they write down for me.
00:16:15.900 That's why you're guessing.
00:16:18.460 So Doug Ford does
00:16:19.900 what the public health
00:16:20.800 bureaucrats say
00:16:21.620 and they do
00:16:22.760 what they're told
00:16:23.780 by someone else
00:16:24.700 who says things.
00:16:25.720 Who?
00:16:26.420 Who?
00:16:27.040 I'm sure whoever
00:16:27.820 is behind the curtain
00:16:28.820 is our friend
00:16:29.840 and only wants
00:16:30.500 the best for us.
00:16:31.860 Say, check this out.
00:16:33.980 Ontario's digital ID plan.
00:16:36.280 In late 2021,
00:16:37.260 we'll be introducing
00:16:38.020 digital identity,
00:16:40.860 a new electronic
00:16:41.660 government-issued ID
00:16:42.660 that lets people
00:16:43.660 and businesses
00:16:44.220 prove who they are online.
00:16:46.840 Oh, really?
00:16:48.120 Yes, really.
00:16:48.880 I'll read some more.
00:16:49.840 Digital ID for individuals.
00:16:51.820 As an individual,
00:16:52.620 your digital ID
00:16:53.300 could be used
00:16:53.820 to prove your identity
00:16:54.880 when you check in
00:16:56.500 for virtual medical appointments.
00:16:58.780 Get a birth,
00:16:59.480 marriage,
00:16:59.820 or a death certificate.
00:17:01.440 Apply for government assistance
00:17:02.760 such as disability support
00:17:04.120 or benefits
00:17:04.800 such as CERB or EI.
00:17:07.220 Update and show
00:17:08.120 vaccination records.
00:17:10.900 Open a bank account.
00:17:13.240 So it's connecting everything.
00:17:15.160 Connecting everything about you.
00:17:17.060 Your name,
00:17:17.560 who you're married to,
00:17:18.320 your bank account,
00:17:19.100 your vaccine status.
00:17:20.920 But don't worry, guys.
00:17:21.860 Don't worry.
00:17:22.640 You don't have to use it.
00:17:25.760 Digital ID will be optional.
00:17:27.520 Having a digital ID
00:17:28.340 will be optional.
00:17:29.280 You will still be able
00:17:30.260 to use ID cards
00:17:31.420 and certificates
00:17:32.120 such as a driver's license
00:17:33.620 or birth certificate
00:17:34.220 if you want.
00:17:36.040 Sure.
00:17:37.020 You don't have to use
00:17:38.100 this Protein vaccine passport.
00:17:41.640 No, no, no.
00:17:42.280 There's no requirement at all.
00:17:44.620 I mean,
00:17:44.840 you don't really need
00:17:45.940 a bank account.
00:17:47.360 You don't really need
00:17:48.320 credit cards.
00:17:49.580 Just use cash, right?
00:17:51.480 You don't really need
00:17:52.380 to fly on that plane.
00:17:53.560 Just drive or walk, right?
00:17:55.680 You don't really need
00:17:56.600 to go into stores, right?
00:17:59.320 Just shop online.
00:18:01.020 You don't really need
00:18:02.040 a job, right?
00:18:03.600 I mean,
00:18:04.480 no one's forcing you
00:18:06.300 to do any of this, right?
00:18:09.680 Stay with us for more.
00:18:10.700 You know,
00:18:22.940 the unemployment rate
00:18:23.640 in Canada
00:18:24.080 is almost 10%.
00:18:26.080 Businesses just ordered
00:18:28.360 shut down.
00:18:29.260 It's no one's fault
00:18:30.580 that their job
00:18:31.360 has been banned.
00:18:32.360 Politicians have banned
00:18:33.640 those jobs.
00:18:34.660 That's one of the reasons
00:18:35.480 it's so demoralizing.
00:18:37.360 People want to work.
00:18:38.240 People want to go
00:18:39.020 to restaurants and shops,
00:18:40.460 but they're just not
00:18:41.420 allowed to by politicians.
00:18:42.640 Those politicians, though,
00:18:44.440 they don't seem
00:18:45.660 to want to work very much.
00:18:47.560 Every parliament,
00:18:48.940 every court,
00:18:49.780 every teacher's union
00:18:51.200 seems to be
00:18:52.320 in some sort of
00:18:53.300 a half capacity.
00:18:56.080 Justin Trudeau
00:18:56.800 declined to go to parliament,
00:18:58.540 declined to hold parliament
00:18:59.840 for months at all.
00:19:02.980 And yet,
00:19:03.360 here's the incredible thing.
00:19:04.560 They are set
00:19:06.340 to give themselves
00:19:08.120 a pay raise
00:19:10.740 tomorrow.
00:19:13.520 April Fool's Day,
00:19:14.540 what a symbolic day.
00:19:17.560 Every MP,
00:19:19.480 every cabinet minister,
00:19:20.920 every senator,
00:19:21.700 and the prime minister himself
00:19:23.120 are getting a pay raise
00:19:25.040 just because they can.
00:19:27.120 And here to join us
00:19:27.880 to talk about it
00:19:29.200 is our friend,
00:19:30.380 Franco Tarazzo,
00:19:31.620 the director for Alberta
00:19:34.280 of the Taxpayers Federation.
00:19:36.300 You can find out
00:19:36.960 more about them
00:19:37.600 at taxpayer.com.
00:19:39.180 Franco,
00:19:39.500 I can almost not believe it.
00:19:41.940 They're actually
00:19:42.920 giving themselves
00:19:43.640 a pay raise.
00:19:44.740 A year of disasters,
00:19:46.680 a year of job losses,
00:19:47.980 unemployment,
00:19:48.760 a deep recession,
00:19:50.780 absolute failure
00:19:51.920 on policies.
00:19:52.960 If you believe
00:19:53.440 in the vaccines,
00:19:54.300 good luck to you.
00:19:55.480 You can't even get one.
00:19:57.320 And they're giving
00:19:57.720 themselves a pay raise?
00:19:58.620 Well,
00:20:00.360 doesn't that just
00:20:00.900 boil your blood?
00:20:02.100 I mean,
00:20:02.320 our members of parliament,
00:20:03.600 you would think
00:20:04.320 that they would know
00:20:05.220 that this severe
00:20:06.040 economic downturn
00:20:07.060 would be the worst
00:20:07.960 possible time
00:20:08.680 for them to be
00:20:09.220 padding their pockets
00:20:10.180 with a pay raise.
00:20:11.360 But a pay raise
00:20:11.940 is exactly what
00:20:12.760 they're going to be getting.
00:20:14.100 And the CTF estimates
00:20:15.260 that for your basic
00:20:16.360 member of parliament,
00:20:17.840 it'll be about
00:20:18.400 an extra $3,000.
00:20:20.440 For the prime minister,
00:20:21.640 it'll be about
00:20:22.280 an extra $6,000.
00:20:24.060 And I think what
00:20:24.600 really makes this
00:20:25.620 a tough pill to swallow
00:20:26.880 for taxpayers
00:20:28.140 is that our politicians
00:20:29.320 in Ottawa
00:20:29.880 are already
00:20:30.520 extremely well-paid.
00:20:32.700 Your backbench MP
00:20:33.680 is making over
00:20:34.880 $180,000.
00:20:36.780 Prime Minister
00:20:37.380 Justin Trudeau
00:20:38.240 is raking in
00:20:39.320 well north
00:20:40.020 of $300,000.
00:20:42.320 And you know what?
00:20:43.180 For those struggling
00:20:44.180 taxpayers who have
00:20:45.200 taken a big pay cut,
00:20:46.620 who may have
00:20:47.000 lost their job,
00:20:48.140 who may have
00:20:48.740 seen their savings
00:20:50.120 evaporate before
00:20:51.140 their very eyes,
00:20:51.940 or may have
00:20:52.420 lost their business,
00:20:53.420 it's really going to
00:20:54.160 feel like a slap
00:20:54.920 in the face.
00:20:55.540 Yeah.
00:20:56.320 You know,
00:20:56.860 I'm looking at
00:20:57.660 your press release
00:20:59.080 on this subject
00:20:59.800 at taxpayer.com,
00:21:01.140 and I didn't know
00:21:02.600 this,
00:21:02.940 that these automatic
00:21:04.820 pay raises,
00:21:06.100 the MPs actually,
00:21:08.060 and this was,
00:21:08.660 I guess,
00:21:09.300 when Stephen Harper
00:21:10.260 was the prime minister,
00:21:11.700 they stopped
00:21:13.000 the automatic pay raises
00:21:14.980 after the 2008-2009
00:21:17.300 recession.
00:21:18.080 So things were bad,
00:21:19.540 and the MPs
00:21:21.060 and senators
00:21:21.600 at the time
00:21:22.320 thought this is
00:21:23.280 just unseemly.
00:21:24.620 Well,
00:21:25.420 the disaster
00:21:26.160 in the economy
00:21:26.860 that we're facing
00:21:27.540 now,
00:21:27.940 I think by many
00:21:28.720 measures is worse
00:21:29.640 than the 2008
00:21:31.200 Great Recession.
00:21:33.480 And have you seen
00:21:34.260 any MP or senator
00:21:36.180 of any party
00:21:37.700 say,
00:21:39.400 I'm opposed to this?
00:21:40.180 I mean,
00:21:40.620 we know the liberals
00:21:41.420 like the dough,
00:21:42.340 we know the NDP
00:21:43.060 likes the dough,
00:21:44.320 but how about even
00:21:45.180 on the conservative side?
00:21:46.380 Has anyone said,
00:21:47.400 I think we should
00:21:48.400 maybe reconsider this?
00:21:50.500 Have you heard
00:21:50.840 any of that?
00:21:51.360 You know,
00:21:52.200 we have,
00:21:53.160 we've heard,
00:21:53.680 we've received
00:21:54.200 some correspondence
00:21:55.100 from about,
00:21:55.740 last time I checked
00:21:56.340 was about 90
00:21:57.160 members of parliament
00:21:58.340 either saying
00:21:58.980 that they oppose this
00:22:00.180 or saying that
00:22:01.220 they're going to
00:22:01.580 donate that money
00:22:02.340 to charity.
00:22:02.820 And you know,
00:22:03.460 well,
00:22:03.600 that's all fine
00:22:04.260 and dandy
00:22:04.980 to donate it
00:22:06.100 to charity,
00:22:06.580 but this is still
00:22:07.620 going to be increasing
00:22:08.460 the burden
00:22:09.060 on taxpayers,
00:22:10.200 right?
00:22:10.600 We want them
00:22:11.520 to stop
00:22:12.380 these automatic
00:22:13.160 pay raises.
00:22:14.840 And to your point,
00:22:15.740 I mean,
00:22:15.900 there's precedent
00:22:16.480 for this
00:22:17.000 under the Harper
00:22:17.580 government
00:22:18.100 in response
00:22:19.200 to the 08-09
00:22:20.000 recession.
00:22:21.120 They stopped
00:22:21.520 the automatic
00:22:22.120 pay raises.
00:22:23.160 And you know what?
00:22:23.600 We've seen politicians
00:22:24.560 around the world
00:22:25.420 step up to the plate
00:22:26.460 for taxpayers
00:22:27.180 almost immediately
00:22:28.680 when COVID-19
00:22:29.760 touched down.
00:22:30.600 We saw New Zealand,
00:22:31.580 the prime minister,
00:22:32.520 the minister,
00:22:33.320 and even top bureaucrats
00:22:34.620 take a 20% pay cut.
00:22:36.360 Why?
00:22:36.960 To show solidarity
00:22:37.960 with the struggling
00:22:38.820 taxpayers who are
00:22:39.740 signing their paychecks.
00:22:40.980 So that's what we
00:22:41.800 should be seeing
00:22:42.360 here in Canada
00:22:43.140 and there's really
00:22:43.660 no excuse for it.
00:22:44.840 And I just need
00:22:45.260 to bring up
00:22:45.620 one other point here
00:22:46.560 and that's the fact
00:22:47.580 that this is going
00:22:48.180 to be the second
00:22:48.980 pay raise
00:22:49.700 during the COVID-19
00:22:51.320 downturn
00:22:51.920 for our members
00:22:52.920 of Parliament
00:22:53.460 in Ottawa.
00:22:54.340 Yeah,
00:22:54.600 that's right.
00:22:55.280 They did it right
00:22:56.000 in the onset
00:22:56.580 of the lockdown.
00:22:58.000 You know,
00:22:58.220 when you mentioned
00:22:58.800 that about a quarter
00:23:01.160 of MPs have said,
00:23:03.200 oh,
00:23:03.400 I swear I'm going
00:23:04.220 to give mine
00:23:04.720 to charity.
00:23:05.280 I really am.
00:23:06.240 Well,
00:23:06.400 first of all,
00:23:06.940 how do we know
00:23:07.560 if they do?
00:23:08.580 Prove it.
00:23:09.300 That's pretty easy
00:23:10.160 to say.
00:23:11.000 As you point out,
00:23:11.920 even if they do,
00:23:13.260 we're still paying
00:23:14.660 taxes for that.
00:23:15.820 But they would get
00:23:16.700 the tax credit.
00:23:17.460 You donate money
00:23:18.280 to charity,
00:23:18.860 you get a credit
00:23:19.720 for that,
00:23:21.040 for donating to a charity.
00:23:22.800 So it's,
00:23:23.340 I'm not impressed
00:23:24.100 with it.
00:23:25.840 And we know
00:23:27.160 that they can stop it.
00:23:28.660 They're not helpless.
00:23:30.240 They don't want
00:23:31.140 to stop it.
00:23:31.700 I just think
00:23:32.200 it's gross.
00:23:33.140 And frankly,
00:23:33.980 for the 2% 0.62
00:23:35.080 or 3% raise
00:23:36.080 they're giving
00:23:36.440 themselves this year,
00:23:37.440 why not take
00:23:38.360 a moral stand?
00:23:39.520 Surely that's worth
00:23:40.300 more than a few
00:23:41.440 thousand bucks
00:23:42.060 to them.
00:23:42.340 I don't know.
00:23:43.340 I'm just disappointed.
00:23:44.960 And the Senate,
00:23:46.780 I understand
00:23:47.840 that senators,
00:23:49.420 their pay is pegged
00:23:50.680 to what the MPs
00:23:52.120 make less 25 grand.
00:23:53.620 That's still
00:23:54.160 a huge pay.
00:23:56.220 You know,
00:23:56.660 I think
00:23:57.840 Preston Manning
00:23:58.640 used to joke
00:23:59.320 that being a senator,
00:24:00.700 we've all heard
00:24:01.300 the phrase
00:24:01.780 thankless task.
00:24:03.620 But being a senator
00:24:04.580 is a taskless thanks.
00:24:06.580 So it's a patronage
00:24:08.920 giveaway anyways
00:24:10.500 and they're getting
00:24:12.060 a pay raise.
00:24:13.380 It is infuriating.
00:24:15.060 It shows that
00:24:15.680 there's the lockdown
00:24:16.620 class that's loving it
00:24:18.080 and then there's
00:24:19.160 severely normal people
00:24:20.500 who are paying for it.
00:24:21.920 What do you think?
00:24:23.140 Well,
00:24:23.580 what I think is that
00:24:24.240 this shouldn't be
00:24:24.740 rocket science
00:24:25.540 to stop these
00:24:26.460 automatic pay raises,
00:24:27.900 right?
00:24:28.160 It shouldn't be
00:24:28.660 that difficult
00:24:29.400 for our members
00:24:30.160 of parliament to do
00:24:31.320 if they have
00:24:32.420 the political will
00:24:33.120 and even if you're
00:24:33.780 an opposition member
00:24:34.800 of parliament,
00:24:35.540 I mean,
00:24:35.740 you should be
00:24:36.320 making an absolute
00:24:37.200 stink about this,
00:24:38.480 right?
00:24:38.960 Raising as much
00:24:39.740 attention and look,
00:24:40.920 we've been in this
00:24:41.540 COVID-19 downturn
00:24:42.640 for more than a year now.
00:24:44.000 So it's absolutely,
00:24:45.200 there's no excuses
00:24:46.060 why this hasn't been fixed
00:24:47.680 and quite frankly,
00:24:48.900 it's embarrassing.
00:24:50.480 And,
00:24:50.880 you know,
00:24:51.280 to your point,
00:24:52.080 we have seen
00:24:52.840 massive devastation
00:24:54.120 in the private sector.
00:24:55.100 You look at Stats Canada's
00:24:56.280 most recent job numbers,
00:24:57.880 more than 700,000
00:24:59.900 private sector jobs
00:25:01.060 have vanished
00:25:02.060 over the last year,
00:25:03.560 but we've even seen
00:25:04.440 the number of government jobs
00:25:05.760 increase.
00:25:06.720 And you know,
00:25:07.040 I'm in Alberta
00:25:07.920 and we have found
00:25:09.420 thousands of bureaucrats,
00:25:12.240 government bureaucrats
00:25:13.060 across our province
00:25:14.080 in Alberta
00:25:14.640 who have received
00:25:15.840 pay raises
00:25:16.700 during lockdowns
00:25:18.340 in 2020.
00:25:19.060 All of that means
00:25:20.340 a greater tax burden
00:25:22.000 on the families
00:25:23.260 and the businesses
00:25:23.940 who are just struggling
00:25:25.600 during this downturn.
00:25:27.700 It's incredible.
00:25:28.600 Well,
00:25:28.740 listen,
00:25:29.600 Franco,
00:25:29.860 I'm so glad
00:25:30.420 to talk with you
00:25:31.100 about this.
00:25:31.680 Thank you for your work.
00:25:32.800 Taxpayer.com,
00:25:34.700 you guys are one
00:25:35.920 of the few NGOs
00:25:37.360 out there,
00:25:38.440 non-governmental organizations
00:25:39.580 that don't take dough
00:25:41.420 from the government.
00:25:42.220 I never understand
00:25:43.300 how someone
00:25:44.220 can call themselves
00:25:44.860 an NGO,
00:25:46.360 non-government organization,
00:25:48.080 when they're taking dough
00:25:49.060 from the government.
00:25:49.900 That's a trick.
00:25:51.440 You stay honest,
00:25:53.000 you guys at Taxpayers.com
00:25:54.280 because you don't
00:25:54.920 take the government dough
00:25:55.860 and I think it's one of,
00:25:56.980 the reason why
00:25:57.880 you're one of the few
00:25:58.880 credible voices
00:25:59.820 on issues like that.
00:26:01.140 Thank you
00:26:01.700 and I'd like to encourage
00:26:02.520 all our viewers,
00:26:03.760 if they're not already
00:26:04.580 a supporter
00:26:05.100 of the Taxpayers Federation,
00:26:06.900 go to Taxpayer.com.
00:26:08.040 You can read
00:26:08.720 the press release
00:26:09.800 that Franco put out 0.91
00:26:10.580 today on this subject
00:26:11.360 and I hope you'll join them
00:26:12.640 and help keep them strong.
00:26:13.660 Great to see you.
00:26:14.200 Thanks for taking the time
00:26:15.040 with us.
00:26:16.020 Well,
00:26:16.180 thank you so much
00:26:16.720 for having me on.
00:26:17.620 All right,
00:26:17.940 our pleasure.
00:26:18.500 Hope to have you on
00:26:19.240 more often.
00:26:19.840 There you have it,
00:26:20.740 Franco Terzano,
00:26:21.860 he's the Alberta Director
00:26:22.920 of the Canadian
00:26:23.820 Taxpayers Federation.
00:26:25.100 Stay with us.
00:26:25.780 More ahead.
00:26:26.180 Hey, welcome back
00:26:38.820 on my monologue yesterday.
00:26:40.040 Mark writes,
00:26:41.140 vaccine passport
00:26:42.040 is just another way
00:26:42.980 of strangling our freedom
00:26:44.460 to decide for ourselves.
00:26:46.440 Yeah, I mean,
00:26:47.100 just think of any other illness
00:26:48.860 that you would have
00:26:50.020 to disclose,
00:26:51.120 have to show anyone
00:26:52.440 who asked any clerk,
00:26:54.020 any waiter,
00:26:56.060 any bouncer.
00:26:56.900 It's absurd.
00:26:58.300 Jair writes,
00:26:59.220 there never was
00:26:59.820 any intention
00:27:00.400 of going back to normal.
00:27:01.740 Governments are not
00:27:02.380 our prison wardens.
00:27:03.720 They work for us.
00:27:04.680 We must stand up
00:27:05.560 and take back our rights
00:27:06.640 or we lose them forever.
00:27:07.880 Yeah, I mean,
00:27:08.340 the two obvious examples,
00:27:09.440 number one,
00:27:09.880 the income tax,
00:27:11.280 which is just till we
00:27:12.160 get through this great war
00:27:13.280 against the Kaiser.
00:27:14.700 You know,
00:27:15.260 it's been over a century.
00:27:16.580 And the other one,
00:27:17.480 which we,
00:27:18.700 you know,
00:27:19.360 I think we're numb
00:27:20.580 to it now,
00:27:21.100 is airport security theater.
00:27:23.740 I don't think
00:27:24.220 they've ever caught
00:27:25.040 a single terrorist
00:27:25.880 where they grope you
00:27:27.640 and make you take off
00:27:28.260 your shoes
00:27:28.660 and delay you
00:27:30.380 and abuse you.
00:27:31.740 That's been going
00:27:32.520 for 20 years now.
00:27:34.220 It's the new normal.
00:27:35.060 It's not a temporary measure.
00:27:37.420 Bruce writes,
00:27:38.420 I'd like to see
00:27:38.860 more exclusive content
00:27:39.860 on the paywall shows.
00:27:41.260 It would add value
00:27:42.380 to the monthly fee
00:27:43.120 we paywall supporters
00:27:44.040 give each month.
00:27:45.220 It's not a bad idea.
00:27:46.760 We do have
00:27:47.720 a weekly show
00:27:48.400 from Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:27:49.700 a weekly show
00:27:50.220 from David Menzies,
00:27:51.100 and just a few months ago
00:27:52.480 we started one
00:27:53.020 from Andrew Chapados.
00:27:54.600 I am open
00:27:55.600 to more content.
00:27:57.240 You know,
00:27:57.440 we used to have
00:27:58.240 shows we put
00:27:59.400 behind the paywall
00:28:00.160 from our live events.
00:28:01.720 For example,
00:28:02.160 when we would have
00:28:02.640 Rebel Live,
00:28:03.380 a conference in Calgary,
00:28:04.940 in Toronto.
00:28:05.820 Obviously,
00:28:06.380 a lot of those events
00:28:07.720 have been shut down
00:28:08.780 because of pandemic rules.
00:28:10.980 We, for example,
00:28:11.640 were going to have
00:28:12.280 a big event
00:28:13.020 in Saskatchewan
00:28:13.920 with Patrick Moore.
00:28:15.480 The government
00:28:16.180 has shut us down.
00:28:16.880 That's a perfect example
00:28:18.060 of something we would have
00:28:19.000 behind the paywall.
00:28:19.660 But let me put
00:28:20.520 my thinking cap on
00:28:21.440 and think of other things
00:28:22.600 we can put behind
00:28:23.800 the paywall too
00:28:24.540 because I do want
00:28:25.280 to give you
00:28:25.780 value for your money.
00:28:27.380 I appreciate the
00:28:27.900 eight bucks a month
00:28:28.480 you guys spend.
00:28:30.240 Well, that's our show
00:28:30.960 for today.
00:28:32.040 Until next time,
00:28:32.720 on behalf of all of us
00:28:33.580 here at Rebel World
00:28:34.300 Headquarters,
00:28:34.840 to you at home,
00:28:35.920 good night.
00:28:36.880 Keep fighting for free.
00:28:37.780 Headquarters.
00:28:39.040 Thank you.
00:28:41.020 See you next time.
00:28:41.340 That will have
00:28:42.260 another chance.
00:28:45.200 Go voring and
00:28:46.040 talk to you around
00:28:46.320 in the same way.
00:28:47.320 See you next time.
00:28:47.620 Keep fighting for the
00:28:47.840 you.
00:28:48.120 See you next time.
00:28:48.640 Bye-bye.
00:28:49.720 Bye-bye.
00:28:50.940 Bye-bye.
00:28:52.440 Bye-bye.
00:28:52.840 Bye-bye.
00:28:57.160 Bye-bye.
00:28:57.420 Bye-bye.
00:28:58.360 Bye-bye.
00:28:58.720 Bye-bye.
00:29:01.140 Bye-bye.
00:29:03.680 Bye-bye.
00:29:04.560 Bye-bye.