Rebel News Podcast - Police Tackle Mask Exempt Woman, Cobourg Cops Feel Stressed

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back at

00:00:19.920 some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite rebels. I'm your host, David

00:00:25.000 Menzies. Wendy Kirkland of Woodstock, New Brunswick, is medically exempt from following her town's

00:00:32.100 mask bylaw, so it was kind of strange that when Wendy went shopping without a mask, she was actually

00:00:39.760 tackled by two police officers who apparently deemed her to be the modern-day version of Typhoid

00:00:46.960 Mary. Unbelievable. Sheila Gunn-Reed has all the shocking details. Speaking of embarrassing law 1.00

00:00:53.520 enforcement, Tamara Ugolini will weigh in on the latest from her small town of Coburg, Ontario.

00:00:59.940 You see, the Coburg cops are apparently completely stressed out, man. Evidently, tasering law-abiding

00:01:07.380 citizens and guarding the beach is causing the police a degree of emotional grief. Oh, poor babies.

00:01:15.740 And letters, we get your letters. We get them every minute of every day, and you had plenty to say

00:01:20.380 regarding my interaction with a couple of Elmer, Ontario police officers who really did resemble

00:01:26.760 a pair of Keystone cops rather than professional law enforcement personnel. You see, these cops

00:01:33.240 threatened to arrest me for the egregious crime of asking insensitive questions to transgender

00:01:41.720 demonstrators who were staging an anti-church protest in a public place. I swear, folks,

00:01:49.020 I'm not making this up. Those are your revels. Now, let's round them up.

00:01:59.820 My doctor has that, and I don't need to provide that to you or anybody else. It's between me and

00:02:03.280 my doctor. Okay, well, and that's the law. That's the law. Okay, well, at this point, you're not able

00:02:09.380 to come into any stores without a mask. Well, I've been going in stores, no problem, except for this one

00:02:14.520 without a mask. Due to COVID restrictions, it's mandatory. You have to wear a mask. Okay? That's

00:02:20.740 bottom of my mind. I know. That's not legislative law. You show me the legislative law that requires...

00:02:26.220 No, it's not. No, it's not. It's actually $292.50.

00:02:30.500 Well, you can go ahead and give me the fine, but it won't make any difference whatsoever.

00:02:35.280 So they said, okay, we want you to leave. So I turned around and I started to walk away.

00:02:40.460 They asked me for identification. And I said, I didn't break any laws. I don't need to provide

00:02:45.920 you with anything. And as I was walking out the door, he continued, Cahill, the officer Cahill,

00:02:52.440 continued to ask me for my identification. I said, no, I don't have it. And as I started across the street,

00:02:59.480 he grabbed me by my shoulder and kind of, you know, tried to pull me around. And I, you know,

00:03:06.820 pulled myself away from him. And then both of them grabbed me and tackled me to the ground.

00:03:16.420 Sorry.

00:03:19.860 Now, Wendy, who is completely medically mask exempt, was tackled by police for the crime of not wearing 0.89

00:03:28.800 a mask at the local heart store. The whole thing is madness, but it gets even worse because Wendy

00:03:34.740 then ended up being criminally charged with obstruction. Her story is infuriating and sad

00:03:41.300 all at once. First, because it should never have happened to her at all. But it's also an example

00:03:47.480 of just how far society has fallen away from common human decency during this pandemic.

00:03:56.080 Law enforcement excellence. First question, why weren't police officers respecting Wendy Kirkland's

00:04:05.020 medical mask exemption? Second question, how did two male police officers think it was completely

00:04:12.380 appropriate to tackle a woman who was completely innocent? Absolutely outrageous. And joining me now 1.00

00:04:21.140 regarding the latest egregious example of cops going postal for no good reason whatsoever is Sheila

00:04:29.880 Gunn-Reed. So, Sheila, before we get into the nitty gritty pertaining to Wendy's case, we try to back the blue

00:04:37.740 here at Rebel. We really do. But you see this kind of garbage happening all over the country and it's not

00:04:44.740 policing. That's a couple of pathetic bullies brandishing badges. What were your thoughts when 1.00

00:04:53.100 you originally viewed that disturbing footage? You know, I think my thoughts were the same as

00:04:58.820 everybody else's because the reason we, I guess we found Wendy is because the images of her being

00:05:10.400 flattened outside of that heart store by a couple of cops went viral. People were outraged early on in

00:05:19.520 the pandemic to see how Wendy was treated. And so we sort of tracked her down and offered her some help.

00:05:29.280 She didn't just receive a lockdown fine. What the cops did to her is one step more. She received an 0.98

00:05:37.520 obstruction criminal charge. And so she ended up in some pretty serious hot water. And so we said, 0.99

00:05:44.600 we got to help this lady. I mean, she is just someone who's trying to go to the store while 0.99

00:05:51.760 medically mask exempt. And what turned into what started as like a routine trip to the grocery store

00:05:58.920 is something that would have happened no problem in the before times. Now, Wendy is face down on the 1.00

00:06:05.200 concrete, um, with a couple of cops on her back. And it was the same outrage that I think we saw at 0.81

00:06:14.400 Rebel News. When we saw those images, a lot of people from Wendy's community felt the same way.

00:06:19.760 You know, Sheila, um, I know hindsight is 2020, but if I had been in Wendy's shoes and I had a medical

00:06:27.580 mask exemption, I'll tell you what I would have done. I would have put out a call on my cell phone to

00:06:33.800 bylaw and get the bylaw enforcement to come into the store and educate those police officers that

00:06:40.920 right there in writing on the bylaw is an exemption for people that have a medical, uh, mask issue.

00:06:50.220 Uh, what I'm saying is that the police were breaking the law here, at least the bylaw, uh, not the other

00:06:58.400 way around. Um, I wonder how that would have played out because these are officers that are to me,

00:07:04.420 they're completely ignorant of what it actually says in writing on those bylaw signs.

00:07:10.300 Well, and we don't, it's none of our business. Why Wendy is medically exempt? Is it an anxiety

00:07:18.520 issue? Is she extremely claustrophobic the way I am? Uh, does she have respiratory issues? 0.99

00:07:25.720 It's literally nobody's business. It's not the cop's business. And it's certainly not some stranger

00:07:31.100 in a grocery store. You should not have to go through this idea that you have to produce your

00:07:37.440 papers to total strangers so that you can run into a store and buy milk. But that's the reality

00:07:42.980 right now for people who are medically exempt from wearing a mask. That's how they have to go through

00:07:50.580 life. Now, everything they do is constant judgment and confrontation. And I think that's one of the

00:07:57.900 worst parts of this pandemic is that people with these unseen disabilities are all of a sudden forced

00:08:04.900 to explain their medical histories to total strangers, or they could be arrested or physically

00:08:11.580 attacked or shamed. 18 months ago, we realized that there were such things as unseen disabilities.

00:08:19.840 We realized it. But since the pandemic, all that human kindness has just sort of gone out the

00:08:28.500 window, and it's been replaced by fear. And that fear is driving people to treat people like Wendy

00:08:35.520 like absolute garbage. And Sheila, that's another important point you bring up. I mean, we've had our 0.82

00:08:41.460 lawyers go through hundreds of municipalities looking at their bylaw policy when

00:08:50.120 it comes to mask exemptions. And I might be wrong, but I don't think I am. I don't think we've come across one

00:08:59.280 single bylaw signage or bylaw regulation that says you with the mask exemption upon request must produce your

00:09:09.000 doctor's letter. It's quite the contrary. You do not have to prove your medical mask exemption. So again,

00:09:17.500 when these police were asking those personal questions, it was none of their damn business. And it says so 0.99

00:09:24.140 right in the bylaw.

00:09:26.280 Well, David, I've got some unfortunate news for you here in Alberta. We, the government has just

00:09:31.700 introduced a regulation because these things don't go before the legislature that says that if you are

00:09:40.000 medically mask exempt, you may be required to produce a doctor's note to prove it. And so now all these people

00:09:49.360 who are already medically mask exempt have to go through this extra layer of now going and getting a note so that

00:09:57.640 you can show some total stranger that you have a medical exemption, be it from anxiety or PTSD or claustrophobia or

00:10:09.420 whatever. You have to show that to a stranger now if they ask you for it.

00:10:15.840 Geez, why am I not surprised that under Premier Kenny's stewardship, this is something that's been brought into what was

00:10:23.920 once the, I think the most free province in our entire Dominion. But you know, Sheila, another thing

00:10:30.040 you touched upon, and I totally agree, we have seen in this pandemic, the very worst being brought

00:10:38.180 out of some people. And I call them, my name for them is the COVID Karens. And they're not all females,

00:10:44.640 of course. I call the guys COVID Karens too. I guess they have to put their pronoun, they identify with

00:10:52.380 he, him in parentheses. But what I'm getting at is one of the most surreal stories I think we did

00:11:01.000 on this medical mask exemption by law is a home hardware store in Toronto, where the customer who

00:11:10.760 was supporting the little guy, the little home hardware, less than a couple of kilometers away,

00:11:14.980 there's a giant Home Depot. But this guy who's a contractor wanted to help the little guy.

00:11:19.360 They took the merchandise out of his hands, they frog marched him outside. And when he pointed to the sign

00:11:27.400 that allows for exemptions for those under two and those with medical issues, a home hardware employee

00:11:35.260 went into the store, got some duct tape and covered up the exemption. I mean, thank goodness this guy

00:11:42.760 filmed this because I think something like that Gila is unbelievable. Yeah, no one, no one would believe

00:11:50.280 it, that people were so audacious as to just say like, oh, well, we're not going to follow this part

00:11:56.400 of the law. Let's just cover it up. No big deal. And legal. It's fine. But I think for me, the worst part

00:12:04.140 of the pandemic is the fact that these the people, the worst people in society and those people whose 1.00

00:12:12.300 humanity sort of is just hanging on by a thread, that the fact that they have to walk through the

00:12:16.780 world and show their face to people, that's the thing that used to prevent them from giving into

00:12:23.300 these horrible impulses to treat other people poorly. Well, now those people are wearing a mask

00:12:28.880 and those people are emboldened by the constant, you know, fear mongering that COVID is going to kill

00:12:37.520 everybody if you don't take control of the situation. Those people out there are running amok.

00:12:46.760 They're the people scolding you in a grocery store because your mask slipped down underneath your

00:12:52.120 nose. Meanwhile, they touch all the Kraft dinner with their bare hands that I don't know have been and

00:12:57.040 I don't know where they've been. I don't know if they washed their hands yet that day, but they're

00:13:01.240 wearing a mask. So they're better than you. And before they never had, they had to show their faces

00:13:07.440 and that acted as the gut check. Now they do it from behind a mask and they are really emboldened.

00:13:14.720 No, 100%, Sheila. It's so sad. And to your point, I'll say this. I can take admonishment and

00:13:23.380 insults from people in a supermarket for improper mask wearing or maybe going up the wrong way of the aisle

00:13:31.280 according to the one-way directional arrow. But what disturbs me is what happened to Wendy. When you have

00:13:37.140 members of law enforcement with lethal force tackling you to the ground, this is clearly not a woman to 1.00

00:13:44.900 borrow that Bruce Springsteen line. She wasn't going down to the bar wearing trouble on her shirt.

00:13:50.260 That is what really disturbs and infuriates me. We've only got 30 seconds. What are your thoughts

00:13:59.640 of what's going to happen when this gets to court, Sheila?

00:14:03.580 Well, we've got great lawyers working very hard for Wendy and she's going to need them because again,

00:14:11.220 she's up against the full force of the government. She's up against the cops, but it should not be

00:14:16.960 illegal to get groceries when you're medically mask exempt. You should not end up with a criminal

00:14:23.640 charge because you can't wear a mask face down on the concrete with two cops on your back. So we're

00:14:28.900 going to do everything we can to help Wendy. We're already working hard to do that story. It took months

00:14:34.040 and months and months of work just to get everybody to see that one little piece of video that you did

00:14:38.920 see. And we've been working very hard in the background. And if people want to support

00:14:42.660 Wendy in her very expensive battle to have this criminal charge thrown out of court, because as

00:14:51.720 we all know, a criminal charge can really ruin your life. It'll limit your ability to travel,

00:14:55.940 your ability to get jobs. You can't be a foster parent. There's a lot of things that this can

00:15:00.620 take away from Wendy if she is found guilty of this criminal charge. So we're working very hard

00:15:05.580 to help her. And if people want to help Wendy and the roughly 1,200 other people, businesses, pastors

00:15:11.500 that we're helping fight their lockdown tickets, and in some instances, criminal charges in court at

00:15:16.960 no cost to them, they can donate at fightthefines.com. And all the donations there now qualify for a

00:15:23.460 charitable tax receipt through the Democracy Fund. Fantastic. Well, Sheila, a terrific report as

00:15:29.420 always from you. You have a wonderful weekend. And hopefully, Wendy will get justice when her court

00:15:34.880 case comes to fruition. Thanks, David. I hope so. All right. And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed somewhere

00:15:41.380 in the hinterland of northern Alberta. Keep it here, folks. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:15:52.440 For Rebel News, I'm Tamara Ugolini here in downtown Coburg. Once again, what was coined in the

00:15:59.400 before times as the feel-good town is now more reminiscent of a fenced-off town. For the second

00:16:06.580 summer in a row, Coburg Town Council has voted to fence off the Victoria Park Beach. That's a huge

00:16:14.000 public space. And as opposed to last year where the vote was unanimous, this year it was a divided vote

00:16:20.580 where the mayor interjected and subsequently the beach was closed. But some of you may remember some

00:16:26.300 of the protests that Rebel News, specifically David Menzies and I, covered here in Coburg last

00:16:32.100 summer 2020. Have a look. Town Council has decided in its wisdom to fight the Wuhan virus by closing the

00:16:40.360 beach until August 31st. And I think in Canada that means the entire summer. It's not California. You can't

00:16:47.480 come here to the beach in November. So all the activities, all the water sports, Coburg's famous

00:16:53.920 sandcastle competition, that's all wiped out. Well, you know what? As the saying goes from Twisted

00:16:59.780 Sister, they're not going to take it anymore. A bunch of people in Coburg are assembling at Victoria

00:17:06.020 Hall. Now, in addition to the closure of the beach once again, there has been a heavy police presence

00:17:13.900 in Coburg downtown on Saturdays. Not only for the protesters here, but there's a farmer's market

00:17:19.760 just a block south. And of course, the beach is just a few blocks southeast of this location.

00:17:26.080 And I did a quick drive around, saw a heavy police presence. I will quote Police Chief Vandegraaff

00:17:32.020 in Northumberland News article, where he is quoted as saying that the extra hands on deck for the law

00:17:39.160 enforcement have cost taxpayers in excess of $8,000 a weekend. Is that to say just Saturdays? Or does

00:17:47.460 that span the whole Saturday, Sunday? And for a long weekend, does that include the holiday Monday

00:17:52.180 as well? That seems like an outrageous amount. I know that a few of these protesters have racked up

00:17:57.520 some serious fine amounts. So I'm going to head in and see what they have to say. But also in the same

00:18:05.180 article, Police Chief Vandegraaff noted that this is taking an emotional toll on his officers. And some

00:18:12.040 of you may recall a few months ago when I reported on a local gentleman who was tasered twice by a

00:18:18.500 police officer for alleged mask non-compliance. Now, the situation escalated pretty severely. And just

00:18:25.540 days later, another gentleman was tasered again for mask non-compliance by the same officer. So what is

00:18:34.100 going on with the Colbrook Police Service? Are their police emotionally unavailable? Do they need

00:18:40.860 some emotional training maybe? Do the police not want to be here and being forced on an order to

00:18:48.860 attend a protest of people who have the constitutional right to do so? Does that negatively affect the

00:18:55.180 mental health of these police? Well, there you have it, folks. It appears that trampling on the rights

00:19:01.120 of citizens who are protesting, including with the use of tasers, is causing some stress for the rank

00:19:09.180 and file of the Colbrook Police Service. Such a tough job, isn't it? I mean, preventing people from

00:19:16.000 going to the beach, ticketing people for displaying anti-lockdown signs. Wow, it's just hell out there

00:19:24.160 on the streets and on the sand dunes of Colbrook these days. And joining me now with more on this

00:19:31.180 Ontario town that is apparently resembling the mean streets of Camden, New Jersey, is our Colbrook

00:19:38.040 reporter herself, Tamara Ugolini. How you doing there, Tamara? Hey, David. I'm well, thanks. How are you?

00:19:44.280 Oh, I'm doing great. You know, Tamara, I couldn't help but notice in your video that Colbrook Police

00:19:49.980 Chief Paul Vandegaf proudly notes on his profile that his preferred pronouns are he and him. Just in

00:19:59.320 case anyone thinks that a dude called Paul who sports a full beard is a she-her or a zezer or a 0.96

00:20:08.080 non-binary asexual spirit unicorn. But the thing is, are these Colbrook cops really stressed out? Or are

00:20:16.980 the police in your town just such a bunch of soy boys? That's a great question, David. And 1.00

00:20:23.980 unfortunately, apparently, I need to speak out to or reach out to the media contact to get any sort

00:20:29.880 of comment from the police here in Colbrook. So it's it just it kind of speaks for itself. I think

00:20:37.460 noting the Twitter biography and the way that they react, I think all across the province and Canada

00:20:46.740 as a larger spectrum, you know, the the state of policing is it's concerning.

00:20:53.740 Yeah. And Tamara, I mean, when we play when they, you know, play the stress card and, you know,

00:20:59.480 we're suffering, I don't know, some kind of light form of PTSD. I've been to your lovely town.

00:21:04.740 I've met these people that are protesting against the lockdowns. They aren't Antifa. They aren't

00:21:12.480 throwing Molotov cocktails and rocks. They're very polite. They're well spoken. The idea of them using

00:21:19.740 violence against anyone, including law enforcement is unthinkable. I'm thinking if the cops have trouble

00:21:26.400 dealing with citizens like that, how do they deal with the really bad guys?

00:21:32.480 Well, and even here in Colbrook, when we saw the two different gentlemen,

00:21:37.580 elderlies gentlemen who were tasered for alleged mask noncompliance within days of one another.

00:21:43.920 I mean, it begs to question what kind of training the police are receiving in terms of de-escalation

00:21:49.960 techniques. Is there some sort of issue within the force that caught is causing there to be

00:21:57.020 emotional unrest? There's there's a lot more questions than there are answers. So,

00:22:03.400 you know, maybe I will reach out to that media contact and get some clarification on what exactly

00:22:07.580 is happening with the Coburg police. And just on that note, if if they weren't wearing such dark

00:22:13.020 colored glasses, I might have said, like, blink twice if you're in danger or, you know, if you don't

00:22:18.160 want to be here, blink twice, because how the emotional toll on officers, I mean, isn't that part of

00:22:25.940 the job? But maybe when they don't want to do the job that they're being summoned to do,

00:22:30.320 that's where we start to get a bit of the disconnect happening.

00:22:34.220 You know, Tamara, please bring us up to remind us rather about what those tasering incidents were

00:22:40.940 about. I mean, that was incredibly disturbing to me. I mean, a taser is the last step you use before

00:22:47.240 you bring out an actual gun with real bullets and fire away. These weren't armed people. These

00:22:54.260 weren't violent people, if I recall. What was what was the deal there where people were getting shot by a

00:23:00.000 taser? Well, I only have the original account of the one gentleman. Unfortunately, I wasn't able

00:23:05.940 to connect with the other gentleman that this happened to. But from my understanding, and that

00:23:11.180 story that I covered, gee, I guess, four or five months ago now, he was in a seated position,

00:23:19.220 just saying to police, you know, why are you here? What are you enforcing? I have he had a bandana up

00:23:25.820 covering his mouth. And I guess it slipped down under his nose while he was working out. Anyway,

00:23:31.700 lots of gray area here in terms of the enforcement, but he was seeking some clarification. And then

00:23:36.440 one thing led to another. And next thing he knew, the police were on top of him and he was being

00:23:41.460 tasered. And we show in the report as well, he provided photos, you know, it was very close

00:23:47.840 to his heart. And at that time, I had actually reached out to the local enforcement here and

00:23:55.340 asked specifically what kind of training the officers receive for the use of tasers. And

00:24:01.920 whether or not there had been other complaints about this officer, I'd have to go back in my

00:24:06.660 emails and find exactly. But, you know, just getting the gist of why and how this situation escalated

00:24:12.460 to the point of this gentleman being tasered. And unfortunately, we never received a response.

00:24:18.740 Wow. So, so much for that garbage, reach out to communications. That works in theory. But when 0.99

00:24:24.900 the communications people don't communicate, which is more and more par for the course these days,

00:24:29.720 I got to tell you, Tamara, I think maybe the strategy is if I don't give a response,

00:24:34.260 the story will go away. No, it doesn't go away. We just say we reached out for comment

00:24:38.180 and you were essentially too cowardly to provide it. One last thing I see to my dismay, 0.71

00:24:45.080 your beautiful beach in Coburg is once again, going to resemble an internment camp. They've got,

00:24:51.940 they're going to be putting up the, the fencing. You can't swim. I guess it'll be that your famous

00:24:58.200 sandcastle competition is off the, off the boards. Now, tell me, I don't get it, Tamara, because this is an

00:25:07.680 outdoor beach, of course. We know from Dr. Martha Fulford, who is an expert among experts in

00:25:19.360 virology. She works at the McMaster University in Hamilton, and she was one of the experts quoted in

00:25:26.400 the Roman Baber application a couple of weeks ago, that the chances of outdoor transmission

00:25:34.040 is virtually zero, right? And this is based on Dr. Fulford going through more than 100,000 medical

00:25:44.340 papers penned since the pandemic took off when it came to COVID-19. Why, if we're being told the

00:25:52.780 science is driving all these decisions, why is it that when you look to an expert like that, who again,

00:25:59.380 is described as an expert among experts, why are they ignored? And I don't know, out of fear,

00:26:06.560 out of superstition, out of a want for tyrannical control, the beach is closed off when there's

00:26:13.540 no tangible danger whatsoever. Well, and just to backtrack a little bit, actually, just after the

00:26:20.440 Ford government announced that they were opening the outdoor amenities, I guess, town council

00:26:24.660 vote or motioned to hold an emergency meeting. So they have actually now, just as of, I believe,

00:26:32.500 yesterday, reopened the beach, but for weekday access only. So it will, I guess the fencing will

00:26:40.720 stay up. I'm not really sure the logistics behind the decision. But, you know, the outdoor viral spread

00:26:47.080 is a great question. And it's something I have actually started just forwarding my emails now

00:26:51.700 that I started, before I was a rebel, I was advocating here locally, especially as it pertained

00:26:57.320 to the rate of asymptomatic transmission and the rate of outdoor viral transmission. And I was looking

00:27:04.180 for data or evidence that supported that that actually existed. So going back a year now, I just

00:27:10.200 am literally forwarding my messages that remain, my questions that remain unanswered from this time

00:27:15.460 last year to town council. So, you know, it's been a year. I've asked numerous health units. I've asked

00:27:22.500 our local elected officials. I've asked my MPP. I've reached out to Health Canada, anyone and everyone

00:27:28.880 who is a contact that should be accountable, that should have this information I've reached out to

00:27:34.220 personally, asking for clarification, and I never get a response. So that's the really frustrating

00:27:41.360 thing here. And I'm really glad that more experts are starting to feel like it's more socially and

00:27:46.900 politically acceptable to come out and voice their opinion. Because this clearly isn't going away

00:27:52.980 anytime soon, if we rely on the Ontario fiction, science fiction table, versus actual experts who have,

00:28:02.280 you know, skin in the game, per se.

00:28:03.680 And Sheila, sorry, Tamara, it's not only shameful, it is unprofessional of those people not to get back

00:28:13.560 in touch with you, because that's part of their job. And you're even being told on camera by cops,

00:28:19.260 reach out to communications. Again, they don't communicate. Before we wrap, I just want to make

00:28:23.180 sure I heard this correctly. You can go to the Coburg Beach on weekdays, but not weekends. The Wuhan

00:28:30.480 virus has a little calendar, it circles the weekends, as a no-go zone. What's the science behind that?

00:28:39.280 Yeah, exactly. And it begs the question, you know, when do we start to say, is this really about a virus?

00:28:45.620 You know, and even just this morning, kind of a little bit off topic, but I was at Walmart, and I can buy

00:28:51.300 non-essential, I can't buy non-essential sun hat for my infant in this, you know, sunny weather.

00:28:57.680 But I can purchase essential houseplants. So, you know, it just, none of it makes sense.

00:29:05.140 We need to bring in those experts, like who you quoted, who can bring some more rationale and 0.93

00:29:10.520 reasoning to the Ontario science fiction table, because this is just ridiculous.

00:29:15.740 Well, Tamara, speaking of Walmart, I got to tell you, one of the funniest photos,

00:29:19.860 and a perversely amusing point of view that was sent to me, was a Walmart,

00:29:24.120 where, as part of the non-essential items roped off, were masks, yet I need to wear a mask to get

00:29:33.560 into the Walmart. It doesn't make sense, my friend, but great video. Great to see you back out in the

00:29:40.940 field, Tamara, and you have a wonderful weekend, my friend.

00:29:44.340 Thanks, David. Same to you.

00:29:45.860 You got it. And that was Tamara Ugolini in Coburg, Ontario. Keep it here, folks.

00:29:50.960 More of Rebel Roundup to come, right after this.

00:29:58.400 Oh, good, sir. How about yourself?

00:30:00.400 Just mind leaving them alone, okay? They don't want you talking to them, so can you just move on?

00:30:04.640 Here, why don't we go behind here?

00:30:05.880 Well, let's go over here.

00:30:06.940 Well, no, wait a second. I'm sorry. No, no. I'm sorry. No, no.

00:30:10.520 They don't want you to talk to them, okay?

00:30:12.480 Yeah, they're in a public place, officer, so I will talk to them.

00:30:15.620 Please move out of the way. I'm losing my patience.

00:30:18.080 I'm leaving out of the way right now.

00:30:20.600 I'm standing in the roadway. I don't want to get hit by a car, so please move.

00:30:24.500 Come over here, officer. What is the crime I'm committing right now?

00:30:28.380 What is the crime? I'm not obstructing you.

00:30:31.120 Please move out of the way, okay?

00:30:32.640 I am here asking...

00:30:34.000 I'm in an awful order to leave these people alone. You're telling me you're not going to,

00:30:36.620 so if you don't follow my directions, get your microphone out of my face.

00:30:40.380 You came to me, sir.

00:30:42.400 Yes.

00:30:43.020 Okay.

00:30:43.380 Asking you to move back out of the way.

00:30:44.900 Okay, well...

00:30:45.600 As far as I know, the practice of journalism is not illegal yet,

00:30:49.100 so unless I'm mistaken, you can write me up for a ticket.

00:30:51.920 This is what's going to happen, okay, Mr. Menzies.

00:30:53.040 You're going to leave this area. I've asked you not to harass these people.

00:30:56.180 If you come back and you speak with them, you will be arrested for harassment.

00:30:58.580 I am on a public piece of land.

00:31:00.520 You have no right whatsoever to make me leave this area.

00:31:03.080 Okay, I do have a right to allow you...

00:31:05.040 Can you quote me the law, sir?

00:31:06.220 Okay, yeah, criminal harassment, okay?

00:31:08.120 They've asked you to not speak with them and not to bother them.

00:31:10.840 I'm conducting journalism, sir.

00:31:12.560 You are arrestable for that.

00:31:14.000 I am arrestable for harassment?

00:31:16.660 Is he not able to answer the questions?

00:31:18.640 In the course of my duty is to inform you that you are not to harass people.

00:31:22.780 That's why I'm here speaking with you.

00:31:23.960 Okay, then you're going to write me a ticket for harassment.

00:31:26.620 I didn't say that. I'm going to write you a ticket.

00:31:28.140 Okay, so I'm trying to figure out what...

00:31:29.360 Leave these people alone, or you're going to get arrested for criminal harassment.

00:31:32.060 I know you don't believe in freedom of the press.

00:31:33.820 Will you stand there and be quiet?

00:31:35.040 No, I will not be quiet.

00:31:36.600 Then you will be arrested if you approach these people.

00:31:38.900 Arrested for talking. Is that what we're into now?

00:31:41.400 And asking questions is harassment?

00:31:44.360 If they don't want to be spoken to, yes, absolutely.

00:31:46.800 Really? Can I see the criminal code violation that spells that out?

00:31:49.740 Yeah. Anybody has a right to not be harassed, okay?

00:31:51.960 Okay, and...

00:31:53.220 If you can move away from me, please get the microphone out of my face, okay?

00:31:56.900 What is the benchmark of harassment?

00:31:59.180 Anybody that doesn't want to be harassed, okay?

00:32:01.260 Please move out of the way.

00:32:02.040 I think you're harassing me, officer.

00:32:04.700 Well, there you go, folks.

00:32:05.760 It's kind of like, I don't know, talking to a Coke machine when you put the loonie in and the soda doesn't come out.

00:32:11.020 They're turning into automated vending machines right now.

00:32:15.060 They won't answer the questions.

00:32:16.480 They came to me.

00:32:17.260 They're talking about people being harassed.

00:32:20.820 I don't think we were harassing anyone.

00:32:22.320 This is a counter-protest.

00:32:24.280 Usually, people that are doing a protest or a counter-protest want publicity.

00:32:28.620 But evidently, asking questions, according to these two fine members of the Elmer Police Service, that is verboten.

00:32:38.400 Well, that was the scene earlier this month in Elmer, Ontario, just across the street from the Church of God.

00:32:44.640 Even though the church had its locks changed, forcing services to occur outdoors,

00:32:50.740 there was a very small protest by the Elmer trans community, which seems to number, oh, two people.

00:32:57.900 Prior to the cops arriving, I attempted to interview the transgender protesters to little avail.

00:33:05.480 I had wrapped the interview and was speaking to some Rebel News supporters

00:33:09.200 when those two Keystone cops arrived to tell me to stop asking impolite questions on public land.

00:33:18.300 Astonishing.

00:33:19.760 In any event, you had plenty to say about this most recent law enforcement fiasco.

00:33:25.760 Well, you nailed it, Catherine.

00:33:41.460 The trans community is increasingly vocal about acceptance and tolerance.

00:33:47.740 And yet, where is their acceptance and tolerance of, say, Christians who simply want to worship? 0.58

00:33:54.120 Well, apparently, tolerance and acceptance, they are not a two-way street.

00:34:01.620 Uday Sidhu writes,

00:34:03.740 Cops are supporting left who want them dead or banned.

00:34:07.660 Irony lost on some. 1.00

00:34:09.260 What pathetic cops. 1.00

00:34:10.680 Yes, Uday, and the irony is perverse, isn't it? 0.99

00:34:14.020 I'd bet you a donut that those lefty protesters for sure support the idea of police being defunded.

00:34:21.520 But when they are asked insensitive questions, they pick up the phone and dial 911.

00:34:28.480 Suddenly, the police are useful when they believe a thought crime is being committed against them.

00:34:35.560 And those two bozos with badges are all too happy to be at their beck and call.

00:34:41.840 Unbelievable.

00:34:43.600 Christine Green writes,

00:34:44.980 It's funny how cops don't go after mainstream media.

00:34:48.200 Oh, of course not, Christine.

00:34:49.700 They are pretty much on the same team with the mainstream media being increasingly funded by the government.

00:34:56.620 They are essentially the propaganda arm of the government while the police serve as the government's muscle.

00:35:03.360 And while diversity is championed, a diversity of opinion regarding an increasing number of issues is now strictly verboten.

00:35:12.760 Ting writes,

00:35:15.040 Policemen say,

00:35:16.720 Quote,

00:35:17.400 I'm standing in the roadway and I don't want to get hit by a car.

00:35:22.420 End quote.

00:35:23.200 I know, Ting. 1.00

00:35:24.060 Can you believe the utter stupidity? 1.00

00:35:27.160 And somehow someone thought it was a good idea to allow this person to have access to lethal force? 1.00

00:35:33.740 You know, we do try to back the blue here at Rebel News, but cops like those two, well, it makes it increasingly hard to do so.

00:35:45.080 And Lao Tor writes,

00:35:46.740 They believe in the science of lockdowns, but rather than stay home, they come out to harass Christians.

00:35:54.380 They want the police defunded while begging police to protect them from a journalist's question.

00:36:01.240 Police obediently comply.

00:36:03.740 This country has become a joke.

00:36:05.760 Yes, Lao, and it would appear that the joke is on us, the vast majority of Canadians who want to live their lives freely but are being prevented from doing so.

00:36:18.640 Wow, Florida is looking better and better every single day.

00:36:23.520 Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup.

00:36:26.080 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:36:27.640 See you next week.

00:36:28.480 And hey, folks, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory.

00:36:32.500 Good night.

00:36:35.760 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - May 29, 2021

Police Tackle Mask Exempt Woman, Cobourg Cops Feel Stressed

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