Rebel News Podcast - Rebel Roundup： Ezra Levant, Keean Bexte

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00:01:15.120 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back at some

00:01:35.320 of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels. I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:01:40.200 This just in, folks. Apparently it's against the law to publish a critical book about a Prime Minister

00:01:47.100 during an election campaign. Oh, and apparently it is also against the law not to register such a book

00:01:54.240 with the government? Just wait until you hear about the shakedown Ezra Levent is getting at the hands

00:02:02.700 of those censorious thugs who comprise Elections Canada. Say, do you know there are more than 50,000

00:02:09.740 bogus refugee claimants in Canada that are supposed to be deported already, but for some reason they're

00:02:16.380 still here? Yep, another fiasco on the immigration front. Sheila Gunn-Reed will try to make sense of it all. 1.00

00:02:24.700 And finally, letters. We get your letters. We get them every second of every day.

00:02:28.440 And I'll share some of your responses regarding my visit to a protest and counter-protest outside

00:02:35.540 the U.S. consulate in Toronto last Saturday in which a grieving man who lost his sister on flight 752

00:02:44.260 was actually mocked and shouted down by a bunch of communists, socialists, Antifa punks,

00:02:51.880 and public sector trade unionists. No, folks, it doesn't get any lower than that.

00:02:58.980 Those are your rebels. Now let's round them up.

00:03:01.180 Oh, I know that. And I'm just asking you to confirm that not a single other loving book of Trudeau is

00:03:19.080 being investigated. But once we're done, if you believe that there should be complaints that are...

00:03:22.660 No, because I'm not a censor like you. I'm not a bully and a censor. I'm not a bureaucrat looking to justify

00:03:29.260 my budget like you. I go out and earn my living every day, fella.

00:03:36.000 You call in authors to grill them about a book criticizing your boss. Think about who you are.

00:03:42.260 We call the director of Rebel News Network Limited.

00:03:45.840 Yeah, who happens to be the author of the book.

00:03:48.460 I think there's going to be a chapter about you two fellas in the next edition.

00:03:58.200 Do you have any more questions there?

00:04:00.740 Certainly do.

00:04:04.380 I wrote a book called The Libranos, What the Media Won't Tell You About Justin Trudeau's Corruption.

00:04:10.140 During the election, it hit number two on the Amazon bestseller list with rave reviews.

00:04:14.200 Justin Trudeau did not like that. So over Christmas, I received this letter

00:04:19.180 from the government by registered mail, accusing me of breaking the law and demanding that I meet

00:04:24.860 with investigators. And if I didn't, I'd get in deeper trouble. You can read that letter for

00:04:30.000 yourself at SaveRebelNews.com. So last week, I went to Ottawa to be interrogated at the high

00:04:36.620 security headquarters of Elections Canada. I was curious, were they really serious? Were they

00:04:41.640 really going to investigate me and prosecute me and fine me, maybe even jail me for writing a book

00:04:47.800 that criticized their boss during an election? Yes.

00:04:52.620 Well, this just in, folks. Apparently and inexplicably, it is against the law to publish

00:04:58.020 a critical book about a prime minister during an election campaign. Oh, and apparently it is

00:05:03.700 also against the law to not register such a book with the government. Oh, by the way,

00:05:09.960 we're not talking North Korea or Venezuela here. No, we're talking Canada and the censorious 0.98

00:05:15.260 thugs who comprise Elections Canada. With more on this story is our rebel commander himself,

00:05:21.180 Ezra Levent. Ezra, that interrogation you received by two bureaucrats who are ex-RCMP officers

00:05:29.560 that used to specialize in terrorism. It is one of the most incredible videos I've ever seen.

00:05:37.320 Judging by the view count, our audience would agree with that. Take us down this path. What is the

00:05:44.940 nub of this story? Are they just, and when I say they, I mean their ministerial masters, ultimately

00:05:50.180 Justin Trudeau. Are they just so upset that you have found a way within the rules to promote a book

00:05:57.800 with election style signs that they find offensive? Look, the best time to publish a book about an

00:06:05.680 election is before the election. It doesn't make a lot of sense to publish a book after the election.

00:06:12.140 And I learned in this interrogation that there were 24 books on Trudeau published at the same time as

00:06:20.360 mine. Now, I only knew of a few of them. Aaron Wary, a leftist at the CBC, John Iverson, a liberal at the

00:06:26.780 National Post. And I asked these interrogators, I said, well, if publishing a book in the election is

00:06:33.980 wrong, have you gone after these two guys? Or is it just because my book was critical? Well, that's

00:06:40.220 what I learned that they were, they had, I'm not going to use the word spied, but they had compiled a list

00:06:45.800 of 24 books. But they acknowledged they were only going after me, even though all of the books were

00:06:50.880 the time the same. There is an exemption in the law for books and the promotion of books, obviously.

00:06:59.560 And we promoted our book our way. The other 23 books promoted their books their way. I've seen books

00:07:05.840 promoted on TV, on billboards, on bus, like stop bus ads, on radio. Like there's so many different ways

00:07:15.640 to advertise. We advertised about five different ways. One was, I thought, sort of cheeky. It was,

00:07:21.000 it looked like an election lawn sign, but it said, buy the book. Right. And it was promoting the book.

00:07:29.080 But even, I mean, what's the purpose of the book? Well, I criticize Justin Trudeau. I think he's

00:07:34.920 corrupt. That's actually the name of the book, The Libranos. What the media isn't telling you about

00:07:41.920 Justin Trudeau's corruption. Right. I think that Justin Trudeau's corrupt. And that's not just an

00:07:45.520 insult. I try and make the case in the book. I talk about SNC-Lavalin, for example, which, I mean,

00:07:50.300 that's not even controversial anymore. He was convicted of four counts of conflict of interest.

00:07:54.420 So, um, for various offenses, um, for taking the free Bahamas trip. So it's not, it's not even a

00:08:01.940 radical book. Yeah. What is radical is the idea that police can tell a journalist, an author,

00:08:10.480 broadcaster, he can't criticize the prime minister in an election. There was two things that, that

00:08:17.420 really stuck with me in the one hour interrogation. One was them asking me, um, why I didn't register

00:08:25.940 my book with the government. Now, I, I mean, I'm 47 and, and so I, I still remember life before the

00:08:33.960 Soviet Union fell. I was, like, so I remember things before 1989 because I was a teenager and I was very

00:08:40.000 interested in, in the Soviet Union when I was even a teenager. And I learned, I knew this, that in the

00:08:48.620 Soviet bloc, I don't know if you know this, um, and I'm getting old, so I forgot it was either

00:08:53.740 Romania or Bulgaria. If you owned a typewriter, you had to register your typewriter with the police.

00:09:05.160 Come on. And I don't know if you know this about typewriters in the pre-computer age. Each typewriter

00:09:11.460 is slightly different how the keys hit. It's almost like a fingerprint. Absolutely. So you had to give

00:09:16.800 a sample of the typing to the police and they kept it. So if ever some illegal publication were

00:09:25.140 to be found somewhere, they could match the typewriter fingerprint of that propaganda to

00:09:33.620 their government registry of typewriters. That is a true story. You had to, a typewriter was

00:09:39.680 considered so dangerous. You had to register it with police as if it was a gun. And in Canada, in 2020,

00:09:47.960 to have two senior veterans of the RCMP who worked on terrorism files, these are senior cops, in a

00:09:54.280 closed room at a high security location in Ottawa, tell me that I had to register my book with the

00:10:02.360 government, like I'm some Soviet dissident in Romania in the 80s. If we're that far gone, I'm not radical,

00:10:12.320 they're radical. And if that's the law, we have to smash this law. And when I mean smash the law,

00:10:17.620 I mean deliberately break and then appeal and have the law struck down. And as I said to these cops,

00:10:24.860 they need to be told by a judge that what they're doing is wrong.

00:10:30.080 But you know, Ezra, for us here at The Rebel, and by extension our audience, this is very much

00:10:35.620 deja vu all over. Just last year, we had our own beloved Sheila Gunn-Reed go through the same

00:10:42.060 nonsense, but on a provincial basis in Alberta with her Notley book. That case ultimately ended up going

00:10:48.780 nowhere. What I'm getting at here though, Ezra, is that is this a matter of the process is the penalty?

00:10:56.920 We are going to incur perhaps tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees fighting this. So even if

00:11:03.160 the government has a no hope or case, they have an endless trough of taxpayer dollars to fight us

00:11:09.760 just to make life miserable and economically disadvantageous for us.

00:11:16.520 Yeah. You know, it's funny you say that because just yesterday, or a couple days ago, it was released.

00:11:22.760 You know, when we fought the debates commission, Trudeau's handpicked committee of who gets to,

00:11:27.640 how the debates are run in the election. So they banned you and Kean Bextie. So we went to federal

00:11:33.400 court. We spent $18,000 on that emergency application. I know that sounds like an enormous

00:11:39.480 amount of money. It is. I mean, our lawyers were working all weekend and then all Monday,

00:11:43.160 and then they sort of collapsed. $18,000, a lot of money, but they were two lawyers and they had an

00:11:47.880 assistant and they worked. I didn't, I paid crazy illegal bills and I was pretty pleased. I thought

00:11:53.080 it was fairly modest. And we won. Yeah. So we had two lawyers and they cost us $18,000.

00:11:58.760 It was revealed two days ago that the government, for the same fight, two, three days work,

00:12:08.760 paid $131,000 for five lawyers. Now, I don't even know how they could bill that much. How can you spend,

00:12:16.600 what's that, seven times as much money? How can they spend seven times more than us? Well,

00:12:22.200 the short answer is because it's not their money. It's just taxpayers' money. They're just throwing

00:12:26.040 buckets of money. It's like throwing another bale of $100 bills on the bonfire. So $18,000 for us is

00:12:33.080 a lot of money. That's a salary for someone for almost half a year. That's, you know, you could

00:12:40.600 buy a lot for $18,000 in a little company like ours. So it was, now thank God our viewers helped us.

00:12:47.000 Yes. $131,000 for the government, it's, who cares? There's a billion more where that came from.

00:12:53.080 So I think you're right. I think they're trying to wear us down and the time. Like I flew to Ottawa,

00:12:59.240 I went to this meeting and I flew back. Even though the meeting itself was an hour,

00:13:03.720 I had to get there a little bit in advance and then I had to leave time for the airport.

00:13:07.160 So I spent at least six hours plus the flight to Ottawa on this thing in the middle of the day. I had

00:13:12.360 to pre-record my show the day before. So I, like that, that is a hassle. So it's the hassle,

00:13:18.840 it's the cost. Now I was thinking about it. I was thinking, what were they trying to accomplish in

00:13:22.520 there? Um, I think they were trying to trap me to get me to, to say things that would, uh,

00:13:30.280 be used against me, myself. I think, I think a normal person would have been intimidated.

00:13:38.440 And I'm not saying that I'm particularly brave. I've just seen it before. So it's,

00:13:41.880 it's like if you see a haunted house with the lights on, you're not as scared anymore because,

00:13:46.440 okay, so over there, there's a jack in the box and over there, the, it's like, it's like if you

00:13:50.840 watch a movie to the end, you know how it's going to end. So, but if, if I hadn't been through these

00:13:55.960 kind of interrogations before, I probably would have been scared because they let me through, oh,

00:14:01.000 high security, buzz in, sign in. I'd like, so they pretended it was like some bunker. It was in a

00:14:06.600 small windowless room. There was the two of them. They were stone faced, you know, they were,

00:14:12.040 so this is in your, so I think that like, I, I'm just so numb to that theater.

00:14:18.600 Maybe I should, in fact, I was sort of cracking some jokes. I said, oh, do you need permission to

00:14:22.040 ask your mom? And I, I made some jokes. Um, so I, maybe they were trying to make me scared.

00:14:27.720 I wasn't. I, in fact, my number one thing going on in my mind, David was don't swear. Don't swear.

00:14:34.200 Cause I, sometimes I swear, David, and I don't like it when I swear, I get mad.

00:14:39.080 And I just thought, Ezra, don't swear. Don't swear. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

00:14:44.840 Cause I was so mad at the idea that two cops are asking me about a book. I mean, how can you sit,

00:14:53.800 like you either laugh or you cry or you swear. I didn't swear and I didn't cry. I laughed a little

00:14:59.560 bit, but the most important thing I did was I recorded it because I know that no one would have

00:15:05.560 believed me what happened. If I just said, well, I went, I was summoned by the government to be

00:15:11.720 grilled for an hour about my book. People say, oh yeah, or you don't mean that, or you're exaggerating.

00:15:16.520 Oh sure. Ezra. Well, the video doesn't lie. No. And, uh, again, more days of it reminded me of the,

00:15:22.760 uh, famous, uh, Alberta human rights tribunal, a case involving you, which you also video recorded,

00:15:28.520 which was remarkable. Ezra might be too early in the game. Cause of course,

00:15:31.720 this video just debuted on Wednesday night, but, um, where are the book publishers of Canada?

00:15:38.680 Where are the periodicals, the newspapers? Uh, I mean, this idea of a book registration process,

00:15:45.480 uh, surely they have some skin in the game. Are we going to see any solidarity or is it, uh,

00:15:50.680 oh, it's the rebel. Let them fry. Well, my phone hasn't stopped not ringing all day.

00:15:56.440 Uh, I've received two phone calls all day today and they're both from my wife just asking me,

00:16:02.440 you know, about errands and you're going to pick up some ground beef and stuff like that. So,

00:16:05.960 I, uh, I've received a single invitation to go on a talk show, Carleen Nation in Mississauga. She's

00:16:12.280 great. I'm going to go on the show. Um, and actually it looks like Glenn Beck in the United States.

00:16:16.280 Fantastic. But, um, and I'm not looking for the attention. I'm not looking also to provide free

00:16:21.480 content to my competitors. I'm very busy here at Rebel News, but you would think that this story

00:16:27.720 would be of interest to journalists, publishers, civil libertarians, people worried about the

00:16:34.920 surveillance state, people worried about, uh, overweening power of government, people worried

00:16:39.160 about freedom, people worried about a democratic discourse. Like there's a lot of professors, academics,

00:16:46.280 poets, uh, critics of the government on the left. Yeah. I'm a critic of the government on the

00:16:51.400 right. But if any critic can be hauled into the, uh, interrogation, surely anyone who is adverse to

00:16:59.000 Trudeau should be worried. I have, uh, and I'm not looking for personal praise. I, I don't need it.

00:17:04.040 Um, and I actually don't think I need the help from these groups. Thank God, rebel viewers. Like I said,

00:17:10.840 we raised 18 grand to fight Trudeau last time. I'm sure we'll raise it again this time. Thanks God,

00:17:15.880 uh, our viewers are amazing. But the Canadian Civil Liberties Association was actually

00:17:21.240 founded to stop this sort of thing. Canadian Journalists for Free Expression was actually

00:17:25.560 founded to stop this. Canadian Association of Journalists, Penn Canada, Amnesty International,

00:17:29.800 Reporters Without Borders. What's that? Five groups right there. Not a peep. And again,

00:17:36.520 I mean, it'd be nice to have allies. Uh, I'm not looking for a personal friend. Like I'm not looking

00:17:40.760 for a buddy or a drinking partner or anything. It would just be nice to, to know that there was

00:17:46.120 someone else in Canada who cared enough about free speech to fight. Now, let me say our friends just,

00:17:51.160 John Carpe, the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, I haven't talked to him about this. Um,

00:17:55.960 so I'm sure he would help if I asked him. I want to note that he cares about free speech,

00:18:01.480 but I think I just went through the entire list of one civil liberties groups in Canada that actually

00:18:05.880 cares about free speech. It's lonely in a way, David.

00:18:08.360 David, Rebel News has become a public interest law firm for freedom because we have so many cases

00:18:17.240 in which we are the target that we decide to fight back and also to protect journalists. Like you have

00:18:23.400 been, uh, I mean, I'm upset about this because I, when we hired you at Rebel, we, it was not my

00:18:30.840 contemplation that you would be a human punching bag, but you have been attacked on at least three

00:18:36.840 occasions that I can think about. And by the way, we're suing in all three, as you know,

00:18:43.480 it is not, that's not my favorite thing to do. I would rather spend that money hiring staff. I would

00:18:48.120 rather spend that money on anything else, but it's just wrong. You were attacked by Jonathan

00:18:54.440 Yaniv with a cane. You were attacked by some manager at the Radisson Toronto East. You were attacked by

00:19:00.200 police, believe it or not, in New York region. Wrong, wrong, wrong. And we're going to fight back.

00:19:04.360 Normally a journalist is roughed up by police and civil liberties groups are squawking about it. Not for

00:19:11.080 you and not for us. So we have to fill that void. So we're, we're news reporters and we're opinion

00:19:16.600 commentators. And sometimes we're activists, we're book publishers, but we're also a public interest law firm

00:19:24.360 because we have to be, because no one else is. And that's our destiny and that's fine.

00:19:27.960 No, you're right. I mean, on the physical assault front, uh, Ezra, I mean, you have mainstream media

00:19:33.400 types that make it a federal case of some drunken Lugan goes by on camera and does the vulgar blanker

00:19:39.160 right in the, you know, where, and that becomes a cause celeb getting hit over the head with a steel

00:19:45.080 cane. Eh, not so much. Um, Ezra, I guess, I mean, there's so many angles to this. And by the way,

00:19:51.160 I urge you folks, if you haven't seen this video, uh, I know the year is young, but it's to me,

00:19:56.120 it's the best video of the year so far. You've got to check it out. A little crystal ball gazing for

00:20:00.760 you, uh, Ezra, especially since the, uh, Alberta jihad by that bureaucrat against Sheila went nowhere.

00:20:08.920 Um, what do you think is going to happen, especially now that these two individuals have the glare of

00:20:16.360 publicity, uh, cast on them? Yeah. You're talking about the two interrogators. Yes. Um,

00:20:21.320 there are at least five people, uh, working on my file. Okay. I know this because I've had letters

00:20:27.160 from them. Uh, I won't bore you with their names, but I can count at least five. Um, they wouldn't

00:20:32.280 tell me if there's any more. So maybe there is more. Um, the two interrogators in the room,

00:20:39.240 one of them in particular, Tim Mackin is his name, seemed very, very resolved, very certain that I had

00:20:48.520 broken the law with this book. Yeah. So if he is a judge of that organization, they're certain, like,

00:20:56.600 this is not some lark. This is not some flight of fancy. They sure seem like they're going to prosecute.

00:21:05.560 And, um, as you correctly pointed out, when the Alberta election commissioner went after Sheila Gunn

00:21:12.440 Reid for her bestselling book, Stop Notley, the whole time I kept thinking, nah, this is just a crank.

00:21:18.920 This is just some kooky guy. And in the end, he dropped it. Yeah. This doesn't feel like that.

00:21:24.360 Hmm. This doesn't feel like it's driven by some weirdo or some kook, like, like in Alberta, that the 1.00

00:21:31.560 election commissioner there was really kooky. He had been fired before. He had been, like, he was a

00:21:36.920 subject of great scandal and controversy. So it was like he was some eccentric guy who was abusing power.

00:21:44.440 This feels like a more an institutional war that's made deliberately and calmly. That's far more

00:21:51.000 worrisome than some kook. Like in Alberta, it was like some, someone put a wild man in charge of a 0.99

00:21:58.440 bureaucracy and it flamed out. Yeah. This seems more deliberate. Even the nature of these two guys,

00:22:05.720 30 year RCMP veterans who had both worked on terrorism files. Like why would you, first of all,

00:22:12.920 that's pretty heavy duty. Like those are, that's, that's a guy 30 years on the job.

00:22:19.400 That's a guy at the height of his investigative detective powers, right? Like they're not,

00:22:23.880 they're not putting the interns. I jokingly called one guy an intern because he couldn't answer any

00:22:27.800 questions. I said, do you want to go talk to your mom or something? So look, I mean,

00:22:34.840 let me just leave. I mean, we were talking here quite a while and I know you have to go, but

00:22:40.040 one of the investigators and his name was Tim Mackin and it's almost like he invited me to

00:22:44.280 unsay something I had said. I had said the obvious truth, which is I published my election book

00:22:51.960 to coincide with the election. Like the other, I mean, hello, you know, it's, it's why you publish

00:22:58.840 a Christmas book before Christmas in January. It's in the remainder bit, you know, it's like, you know,

00:23:05.880 hey, I got about, it's February 15th. I got this Valentine's Day card. No. So he, in the interrogation,

00:23:13.720 he sort of said, do you want to rephrase your earlier statement that you timed the book for the

00:23:20.600 election? Like he, he made it really clear to me that by saying the obvious, well, of course,

00:23:27.480 I published my election book during the election because it's about elections, that that would

00:23:31.960 convict me. And it's almost like he was inviting me to amend my alibi, which first of all, I'm not going

00:23:40.600 to do, I'm not going to lie. Second of all, that would be stupid to pretend like, like it's, that 0.95

00:23:48.680 would, it would be insane to publish a book about the election, not during the election. 0.55

00:23:55.160 The other 23 books didn't do that. So I'm not going to lie. He thinks that the truth is a crime

00:24:02.440 or breaking the elections act. One of us is deeply, deeply wrong, David. I think it's him,

00:24:09.320 he thinks it's me. I think we have to go to a court and get a judge to sort it out. And in fact,

00:24:17.480 we have no choice, do we? Well, I mean, I suppose they could drop the case. But if these guys

00:24:24.600 prosecute me, and I think what would happen is they would convict me internally,

00:24:28.920 and then I would appeal that to a real court. I just, I mean, I have a lot of criticisms of Canada.

00:24:36.200 I think we're going in the wrong direction in a bunch of ways. I think our judiciary is a problem.

00:24:42.920 But even in Canada, with all its problems, I have got to believe that there is no judge in this country

00:24:51.560 that would say, yes, we should register books with the government the same way Romania registered

00:24:58.840 typewriters with the government. I will trust any judge in Canada to smack down these weird censors.

00:25:08.600 And I say, let's have that trial as soon as possible. Yeah. Ezra, an amazing story. And

00:25:15.320 we're going to come through this 100%. And there you have it, folks. I mean,

00:25:18.520 welcome to Justin Trudeau's Canada in 2020. It's funny, isn't it? Someone like Omar

00:25:23.320 Cotter, $10.5 million check, speaking engagement next month at Dalhousie. And Ezra Levent writes a

00:25:30.520 book critical of Justin Trudeau and Gerald Butts and the rest. And that's deemed to be, oh, I don't

00:25:36.280 know, an act of terrorism. Absolutely incredible. But we'll keep you posted with this story as it 0.55

00:25:41.640 progresses. Keep it here. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:25:45.080 RCMP and border security officials intercepted 56,515 illegal immigrants in the past three years.

00:25:59.640 These are mainly Haitians and Nigerians crossing at Canada's southern border. And according to a new

00:26:05.480 report by Black Locks Reporter, an inquiry of ministry also revealed that most of them

00:26:10.200 are still here. There are 52,109, quote, irregular migrant arrivals that remain in Canada, wrote

00:26:19.560 staff of the Parliamentary Budget Office. Now, funding for the Immigration and Refugee Board

00:26:25.640 has increased 56% since 2017, from $82.9 million in 2017 to $129.4 million this year.

00:26:36.200 And the Black Locks report I'm citing today also quotes Michael McDonald, the associate deputy

00:26:42.120 immigration minister, as saying the Immigration and Refugee Board was hiring, quote, several

00:26:47.720 hundred new employees to speed up the hearings. And yet the backlog remains nearly unabated.

00:26:55.560 A total of 648 illegal immigrants were deported last year, according to that inquiry of ministry.

00:27:02.040 Similar, quote, removals totaled 495 the previous year. So to be clear, that was an increase of

00:27:08.680 nearly $50 million per year to the Immigration and Refugee Board to expedite these appeals,

00:27:15.160 only to see an additional 150 people illegally in Canada finally deported from Canada.

00:27:21.000 Well, there you have it, folks. Has any government spent so much money to deport so few illegals?

00:27:28.200 And meanwhile, the backlog of phony baloney claimants stands at more than 50,000 people,

00:27:35.240 which makes you wonder, will these irregulars actually get deported before they die of natural 1.00

00:27:43.000 causes? Don't bet on it. And with more on this disgraceful story is the host of The Gun Show,

00:27:49.560 Sheila Gunn-Reed. Welcome to Rebel Roundup, my friend.

00:27:52.200 Hey, David. Thanks for having me on the show.

00:27:54.280 It is always a pleasure. But Sheila, your video really depressed me. I'm thinking,

00:28:00.280 why even bother having borders? Why even bother having IRB hearings? After all,

00:28:06.600 when tens of thousands of illegal aliens, yes, that's right. I said it. Illegal aliens simply come 0.99

00:28:13.560 into the country. We may as well stop throwing money at this problem. And I guess subscribe to that

00:28:18.840 leftist claptrap of open borders and nobody is illegal. What do you have to say?

00:28:25.240 Well, that's exactly it. I mean, we've got 52,000 people illegally in this country waiting. 0.84

00:28:35.080 They're under deportation orders. So they've already gone pretty well as far through the system as you can.

00:28:42.280 And they're awaiting deportation. We're deporting almost none of them. And they're entitled to

00:28:49.960 another appeal and another appeal until appeals are exhausted. And then we finally deport them

00:28:55.720 if we can find them. And that's another thing. People sometimes don't show up to their appeal.

00:29:02.680 And then they have a baby in the country. And then the baby gets birth rate citizenship. And then the baby

00:29:07.560 sponsors their illegal parent into the country. So a lot of things can happen in that two year long

00:29:12.680 wait between the time that these people are ordered deported and then they get to that final appeal

00:29:22.360 before they're eventually shown the door. And as you rightly pointed out, the government said,

00:29:28.760 OK, well, we've got this big backlog. The answer to the backlog of dealing with illegal migrants is not 0.98

00:29:34.680 dealing with what's creating the illegal migrant situation. And that's a border that's a colander,

00:29:40.440 but that we need more bureaucrats to deal with this so that they spent 50 million dollars on more 0.81

00:29:47.160 bureaucrats and they only expedited 150 more immigration hearings. And that's that's the the net result.

00:29:56.840 They deported 150 more people last year and they got, you know, 50 million dollars in resources.

00:30:03.000 Yeah. And I think, Sheila, it all comes down to political. Well, you mentioned birthright citizenship.

00:30:09.640 Well, the UK got rid of that nonsense in the early 80s under Margaret Thatcher. So we have to look at

00:30:16.120 doing that, too. And but for the issue at hand, let's just dial it back to how these people come into

00:30:24.520 Canada in the first place. Now, we've seen through the infamous rocks and road that they just stroll over

00:30:30.680 the border. The RCMP or the Border Service Agency guards say, stop, you're committing a crime. They

00:30:37.160 don't care that they want to commit the crime and declare refugee strategy status rather. But when I

00:30:43.160 look at the US Canada safe third party agreement, Sheila, it clearly states that refugee claimants are

00:30:52.760 required to request refugee status in the first safe country. Now, that would be the US if they're already 0.93

00:30:58.760 coming from the US. Now, there's this little asterisk. There is exemptions such as unaccompanied minors,

00:31:05.480 people who might face the death penalty in a state that has it. So, you know, always great that

00:31:11.160 we'll welcome murderers into the country. But the thing is, Sheila, with these exemptions,

00:31:17.960 there's no way there's more than 50,000 people that qualified for this asterisk. So what's going on here?

00:31:28.200 Well, they're abusing this loophole, like you say, where they're supposed to make asylum in the first

00:31:35.320 safe country that they land in. Now, about a year ago, the government pretending to be doing something

00:31:43.560 about this said, okay, we will automatically rule out anybody who's made an asylum claim in the United

00:31:52.600 States, had the asylum claim there fail, and then run from a deportation order by crossing into Canada,

00:32:01.240 and then making an asylum claim here. Well, as it turns out, that's only caught about 400 people,

00:32:07.400 because the illegal migrants, most of them crossing out one border crossing at Roxham Road,

00:32:14.600 from mainly Haiti and Nigeria. So nowhere where there's an act of war going on or, you know,

00:32:22.040 religious persecution. Well, let me correct that. Nigeria does have some religious persecution of

00:32:27.560 Christians, but that's not what these folks are claiming. They're not bothering to make that

00:32:32.600 a first initial asylum claim in the United States that would preclude them from ever coming into

00:32:38.680 Canada. They're using the United States as just a launching point to get into Canada because they're

00:32:45.240 not even bothering to country shop. They're just trying to get to Canada because they know that our

00:32:51.080 system will allow them at least two good years before we even get to finally dealing with people

00:32:58.680 who are here illegally. So, I mean, there's a perception that the Liberals tried to do something, 0.93

00:33:05.160 but really they made a teeny tiny two week in legislation that really had no impact. It's a

00:33:10.360 statistical rounding error, 400 people out of, you know, 52,000. And really, if we had taken,

00:33:19.080 this is the point of making my video, if we had taken that 50 million dollars per year that the IRB

00:33:25.480 got in increased funding and just put up a fence at Roxham Road where all the problems are happening,

00:33:32.760 boy, we would actually see an impact in what's going on in the immigration system. Instead,

00:33:38.120 we just leave Roxham Road wide open and then deal with the fallout after the fact and then

00:33:43.000 wonder why we can't fix any of it. You know, and Sheila, as you mentioned, the vast majority of these 0.99

00:33:47.800 claimants are coming from Haiti and they're coming from Nigeria. The U.S. is a Western democracy,

00:33:53.560 perhaps the greatest democracy in the world. And there is no persecution of those people in the

00:34:00.680 U.S. And yet I see this narrative being displayed that because of the Trump administration,

00:34:09.080 they're fearful for some kind of deportation or incarceration, you name it. And that kind of

00:34:15.000 plays into the leftist agenda, especially here in Canada, that, you know, well, we better say,

00:34:21.320 give them a lifeline. It's just more of the Trump derangement syndrome on display. But

00:34:28.040 you raise a good point. I would have loved to have seen that 50 million go not to bureaucrats,

00:34:33.560 but to bricks and build a fence or a wall. When you go to the people that you deal with on this file,

00:34:41.080 Sheila, and say, why not that? Why not a wall? Why not a fence? What is the answer? Or what do you

00:34:46.520 suppose their answer would be? Well, walls are pretty Trumpy, aren't they? You know,

00:34:52.600 Justin Trudeau has painted himself from the very beginning of Trump's presidency as the anti-Trump.

00:34:57.560 When Trump was cracking down on illegal immigration and immigration from failed states where

00:35:04.440 the U.S. government cannot verify anybody's immigration records, their identities, whatever,

00:35:10.280 and terrorist hotbeds, when Trump said, OK, well, you know, we can't make sure you are who you say

00:35:15.960 you are. We don't want you coming into the country until we can. Justin Trudeau tweeted out, you know, 0.93

00:35:22.680 everybody's welcome to Canada. And one tweet collapsed our immigration system. And Donald Trump is pro wall.

00:35:29.560 He's building some wall, not enough wall in my estimation. But he did campaign on a wall. So

00:35:37.000 Justin Trudeau can't go around building walls because, you know, that's pretty Trumpy. You know,

00:35:41.320 they only like to have walls around Liberal Party events, but not to protect the Liberals. They

00:35:46.760 don't like to have walls to protect Canadians. You know, it is astonishing. No, you make a great point. 0.98

00:35:52.440 And I've got the bruises to show it when it comes to a Liberal press conference, when it comes to

00:35:58.200 cordoning off the undesirables and the deplorables, like me. Yeah, you know, fencing and thugs guarding

00:36:06.920 the fences work really well, don't they? But, you know, Sheila, what is the end solution for this?

00:36:16.040 Because even if you buy into the fact, oh, we're Canadian, we're too polite to build a wall or a

00:36:20.040 fence. These people have gone through the process. They've been determined as you do not qualify.

00:36:27.160 And yet more than 50,000 of them are still in this country. As you said, a great percentage

00:36:32.920 unaccounted for. We just don't know where they are. I mean, this is absolute incompetence

00:36:39.720 to the highest degree by the people that should be safeguarding our borders. So what's going to happen

00:36:44.920 moving forward? Nothing. Nothing's going to happen. It's just going to keep getting worse.

00:36:50.440 I mean, the Liberals are not going to change this. They're counting on demographic changes

00:36:55.240 in Toronto to make sure that Toronto always stays Liberal. They're not going to address this issue.

00:37:02.280 They have done nothing really tangible in four years to address the issue. It's a Liberal created

00:37:09.000 problem by and large. But we've seen that there are basically human traffickers in New York State

00:37:17.000 helping people come into Canada. I've heard absolutely nothing about Canadian officials

00:37:24.520 trying to track down and crack down on human traffickers in the United States, helping people

00:37:30.360 break laws to get into our country. Nothing tangible is being done. And I don't see it happening 0.84

00:37:35.480 in the reasonable near future as long as there are Liberals in charge. And frankly,

00:37:41.880 I don't see much happening when Conservatives could ever be in charge because they seem to think

00:37:48.280 that this is a political hot potato that they aren't going to touch. And really, the people this hurts

00:37:54.120 the most, besides everyday Canadians, it's the actual legal immigrants who are trying to do things the 0.99

00:38:02.760 right way, who see our country as a bastion of freedom. They're trying to come in the front door

00:38:07.560 and they've got to wait in the same immigration queues as people who are just having the RCMP

00:38:12.680 carry their luggage across the border at Roxham Road.

00:38:15.800 You know, I think you're right, Sheila. We have to wrap here. But, you know, the way the government

00:38:22.360 is demonstrating its authority, it's kind of like on the lines of a wrestling referee,

00:38:26.360 you know, giving endless warnings to the bad guy, which are always ignored. And the

00:38:31.240 referee saying, if you ignore my eighth warning, I'm going to warn you a ninth time to behave.

00:38:35.960 And I think the long game, Sheila, is simply what you alluded to, that the Liberals here and the

00:38:41.960 Democrats in the US, this is about changing the demographics. And it's about, hey, remember who was

00:38:47.800 easy on you and your father and your grandfather to allow you in illegally. All we ask is that every

00:38:54.280 four years, you mark Democrat in the US, you mark Liberal in Canada. That's all we want as payback.

00:39:01.000 And this is kind of scary because, you know, if a country, Sheila, and I'm sure you agree with this,

00:39:07.080 if you don't have sovereign borders, you really aren't a country at all.

00:39:13.320 No. And, you know, for people who want the welfare state, you can have one of two things. You can have

00:39:19.240 a welfare state, or you can have open borders, but you can't have both. And one day, the Liberals are

00:39:27.000 going to be mugged by the reality of this. But unfortunately, it's going to be Canadians who are 1.00

00:39:32.120 paying the price.

00:39:32.760 Yep. That's Canada in 2020, where the makers subsidize the takers, as per usual. Sheila,

00:39:41.000 a great commentary, although depressing. So thank you so much for weighing in on it here on Rebel Roundup.

00:39:47.320 Thanks, David. Have a great weekend.

00:39:48.600 You too, now. And keep it here, folks. More to come after this.

00:39:57.320 Hey, how you doing there? This fellow? Who is this fellow, sir, that's got a side in my face?

00:40:03.800 Let me see. Stupid. This is my sister. She's killed in the plan. Islamic government killed in that plan. 1.00

00:40:13.560 This is a victim from the airline 752? Yes, yes, yes. That's my sister. That's two children.

00:40:24.360 What do you make of this person throwing out there? Why you do like that? This guy isn't good.

00:40:30.840 Are you a member of Antifa?

00:40:33.800 What do you make of this person?

00:40:35.560 Sir, why don't you take off your burqa so I can see who you are? 1.00

00:40:39.560 No. So, sir, who is this person that's...

00:40:42.920 What the f*** off? What are you doing? What the f***ing what are you doing? You piece of s***. 0.96

00:40:46.520 I'm not talking to you. I'm interviewing this gentleman right now. 1.00

00:40:48.920 You a f***ing piece of s***. 1.00

00:40:52.120 Sir, who is this person? 1.00

00:40:53.160 Folks like to separate because you're now pushing into each other.

00:40:56.200 Thank you, officer.

00:40:57.480 That is my sister. That's an Islamic government killed. That is in this one. 0.99

00:41:02.600 That guy bothered me. That guy bothered me.

00:41:05.400 Get out of here.

00:41:05.880 You guys all like to separate?

00:41:07.320 So, sir, what is it that you're here trying to say?

00:41:11.080 I just come over there. I said, Jesus, you guys, don't do the buying sides. Both sides.

00:41:18.120 Islamic government is the same s***. Iran government is the same s***. 0.99

00:41:23.240 He, 14 years, killed the people. He talked a lie. He shoot to the purpose of that people. 1.00

00:41:27.880 He killed that two children and one my sister. Look at that.

00:41:31.480 The police are pulling him away.

00:41:44.360 So, sir, you don't support freedom of speech?

00:41:46.360 Lock him up. Lock him up.

00:41:48.360 Lock him up for what? Espousing an opinion?

00:41:51.080 No. He says that to us all the time so he can have a taste of his own medicine. Got it?

00:41:57.880 You know, I don't think the word deplorable cuts it when describing the odious behavior of socialists,

00:42:04.600 communists, Antifa thugs, and if you can believe it, members of public sector unions,

00:42:11.640 who put on a supposed peace rally outside the US consulate in Toronto, demanding that America stay

00:42:19.240 out of Iran. How odd there was only one actual Iranian there, from what I could see,

00:42:25.880 as part of that rally. Meanwhile, the counter-protest against these US haters is where I found several

00:42:33.000 members of the Persian-Canadian community, including that grieving man who lost his sister on flight 752.

00:42:41.560 But when I tried to interview him about his loss, the commies and the unionists and the Antifa trash 0.89

00:42:47.240 actually shouted him down and chanted, lock him up. Like I said, deplorable isn't a harsh enough word 0.98

00:42:55.880 to describe their actions. In any event, here's what some of you had to say.

00:43:00.600 Serenity Now writes,

00:43:02.520 Imagine being at a protest defending a regime that is literally shooting their own citizens

00:43:08.680 protesting in the streets on the same day. Yes, Serenity Now.

00:43:13.320 How odd that the people who escaped from Iran want nothing to do with it, but the homegrown 1.00

00:43:20.360 uber-progressives championing communism think Iran is a fantastic place to live. 1.00

00:43:28.440 Too bad these idiots don't just move there. 1.00

00:43:31.560 Ray Fraser writes, 1.00

00:43:32.760 Yes, Ray, I didn't see the mainstream media covering this, and I had a feeling of deja vu

00:43:43.000 from a couple of years ago when we were covering the hijab hoax protest by the Asian-Canadian

00:43:49.080 community. In both cases, a CBC news van was driving down University Avenue, slowed down to

00:43:56.200 take a look, and then sped away. Apparently, covering either of those events just doesn't

00:44:01.960 fit into the CBC narrative.

00:44:05.480 Pseudo Petrus writes,

00:44:07.560 I feel so bad for that man who lost his sister and the children. His grief is not

00:44:13.080 ideological like those lefties. Oh, I agree. He was clearly in pain, and

00:44:18.520 those lefties mocked him and shouted him down. Gee, whatever happened to that bogus leftist saying of

00:44:25.560 love trumps hate?

00:44:27.000 Martin Denny writes,

00:44:29.560 That guy that called you a fascist doesn't know what a fascist is. I'm a CUPE member,

00:44:37.640 and it makes me sick that we have members who support terrorist attacks and other activities.

00:44:42.680 Well, you, sir, are my kind of CUPE member.

00:44:46.120 Sarah Cooper writes,

00:44:47.160 Thank you for doing a thankless job. I appreciate seeing reality as it happens, uncensored.

00:44:53.720 Well, you are most welcome, Sarah. We just try to live up to our motto here at The Rebel,

00:44:58.200 telling the other side of the story.

00:45:01.080 And HXKXRX writes,

00:45:04.200 In France, it is exactly the same situation, same attitude from the same kind of people.

00:45:10.120 No knowledge, no arguments, no courage, just insulting good Iranian people. 1.00

00:45:15.560 Well, sorry to hear that, HXKXRX. Let's hope that in this new decade, sanity returns to Western 1.00

00:45:23.400 democracies, and that regime change occurs in Iran. Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel

00:45:30.440 Roundup. Thanks so much for joining us. See you next week. And hey, folks, never forget,

00:45:34.920 without risk, there can be no glory. Good night.

00:45:53.400 We'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - October 12, 2019

Rebel Roundup： Ezra Levant, Keean Bexte

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