Rebel News Podcast - Remembrance Day： The liberal establishment pretends to care about our military one day a year

00:00:00.000 Tonight, it's Remembrance Day on Sunday, the one day a year the liberal establishment

00:00:04.360 pretends to care about our soldiers. It's November 9th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:15.480 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.220 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.960 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.940 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:00:30.960 bloody right to do so.

00:00:36.920 Sunday is Remembrance Day. I have a Remembrance Day tradition that I started when I was at

00:00:41.820 the Sun News Network of reading a poem every year, not in Flanders Fields, which is very

00:00:45.800 touching and is the reason we wear puppies on our lapels. A different poem, you know the

00:00:50.160 one, by Rudyard Kipling, the great British journalist and author and sometimes activist.

00:00:54.100 He was the author of The Jungle Book, you know, the author of so many interesting short stories

00:00:59.380 about the British Empire. A poem simply called Tommy. I'll read his poem in a moment, and

00:01:05.980 you can tell me what you think of it. And ever since I went to Halifax for the Conservative

00:01:10.320 Party convention earlier this year, Halifax a military town, a navy town, I have to say

00:01:14.920 I've been listening to sea shanties and traditional songs, many of which are about military veterans

00:01:19.900 or sailors or people pressed into service, either Canadian or from the British military

00:01:24.660 from which our own came. And I've discovered a song that I will not sing myself, don't worry,

00:01:29.520 but I'll play a 90 second clip from it because it talks about veterans in a way too, or more

00:01:34.240 to the point how men who are recruited are sometimes treated. Some people call the song an anti-war

00:01:40.180 song because it criticizes the treatment of veterans. I disagree. I think it's a pro-soldier

00:01:45.360 song and speaks to the humanity of an ordinary soldier and how it's so important that we must

00:01:50.940 respect them when they're done their service. We can't abandon them when they're wounded

00:01:55.600 physically or mentally. Shell shock, as it used to be called, or PTSD as it's called now.

00:02:00.980 So I'll read the poem and then I'll play 90 seconds of that song. I looked at my remarks

00:02:05.880 from last year and the year before, and I see how bad things are every single year for veterans.

00:02:11.260 I think that Stephen Harper did change that somewhat as prime minister, at least symbolically.

00:02:16.280 I remember shortly after he was elected when there were questions about where his first

00:02:20.120 foreign travel would be to. Would it be to the United States? Would it be to China? As many liberals

00:02:25.240 and businessmen had hoped. No. Do you remember he went to Afghanistan to spend time with the troops

00:02:31.580 there? What a statement, what a symbol that was. And he did his best to morally support the troops.

00:02:38.280 And he slowly ramped up spending on equipment for the troops. And I'm not making this a partisan

00:02:43.240 ad for the conservatives, but I am lamenting that brief period of respect and momentum has been

00:02:48.600 undone, not just financially, but also morally and symbolically. Why did Justin Trudeau rush to give

00:02:54.360 $10.5 million to Omar Khadr, the convicted confessed terrorist? And why did he arrange that payment

00:03:00.880 in a tricky way? Do you remember that? To ensure that Khadr's victims, the family of a U.S.

00:03:06.700 soldier named Christopher Speer couldn't collect that money as part of their wrongful death lawsuit

00:03:11.840 against Khadr. Why did Trudeau collude with Khadr? Why did Trudeau have such a chummy meeting

00:03:17.360 with Joshua Boyle? Remember him? A Muslim convert who took his family to meet up with the Taliban 0.94

00:03:23.160 in Afghanistan. Boyle actually used to be married to Khadr's sister. Boyle has been charged with horrific

00:03:28.900 crimes. Boyle said he met up with Justin Trudeau once before. I wonder what that was about.

00:03:33.700 Why is Trudeau so chummy with terrorists and terrorist sympathizers and so hostile to our

00:03:39.300 own troops? Why is he cheaping out, literally asking soldiers to turn in their sleeping bags

00:03:44.620 because there's a shortage? What on earth? If there really is a shortage, buy some new ones.

00:03:49.080 Or are these sleeping bags for something else, like giving to Trudeau's 50,000 migrants who've just

00:03:54.120 slipped across the border into Quebec and they need a sleeping bag? I don't know. You tell me.

00:03:58.680 Or when Trudeau had so impoverished our soldiers that they had to set up a food bank on the base.

00:04:03.060 Remember that? But they refused to take our fundraised donation to it because that was too

00:04:08.080 embarrassing. As in, we were offering to feed our soldiers since Trudeau wasn't paying them enough,

00:04:13.520 but Trudeau refused to take the funds because he'd rather our troops go hungry than for he himself

00:04:18.380 to suffer embarrassment that he made them go hungry. A hundred things like that. And I see it in the

00:04:23.760 United Kingdom, too, through my work with Tommy Robinson. They are a few years further down the road

00:04:28.720 than we are. So many British soldiers wounded in Afghanistan. So many have PTSD and they're being

00:04:33.600 shortchanged. Tommy has a new campaign about a PTSD clinic there that was shut down due to lack of

00:04:39.660 funds, but they have funds for sex change operations and breast implants on the taxpayer dime.

00:04:46.700 And speaking of love affairs with Islam, look at this official recruiting ad for the British Army.

00:04:51.320 We've good.

00:04:57.000 Joe Biden, we're a mission as a service for reformers.

00:05:10.260 People are standing up for them, physically, physically.

00:05:12.140 I'm younger now.

00:05:13.340 I'm younger now.

00:05:14.680 Hello, boys.

00:05:15.320 That's a real ad for the British Army.

00:05:33.820 Imagine that.

00:05:34.780 Did you see that one scene there where the squawk box was, 0.92

00:05:37.460 sorry, commander, can't take your call now.

00:05:39.240 Sorry, commander.

00:05:39.780 No, sorry.

00:05:41.020 We're all pausing for one of five daily Muslim prayers.

00:05:44.000 Sorry, boss.

00:05:44.800 Maybe you're reporting some attack or that someone needs our help,

00:05:47.400 but they're just going to have to wait a minute.

00:05:50.220 That is nuts.

00:05:51.980 Yeah, we don't seem to learn, do we?

00:05:53.140 Because listen to this poem called Tommy, or Tommy Atkins.

00:05:55.940 That's the British nickname for an ordinary soldier.

00:05:58.720 And listen to how Kipling observes the respect and the love that Tommies get

00:06:03.860 when they're needed in a war compared to the disrespect and punishment they get

00:06:06.880 when the war is over.

00:06:08.060 Let me read the poem to you now,

00:06:09.620 a poem that I try to read each year without choking up at this one key line.

00:06:12.940 All right, here it goes.

00:06:15.700 I went into a public house to get a pint of beer.

00:06:19.020 The public in the up and says, we serve no redcoats here.

00:06:22.260 The girls behind the bar, they laughed and giggled fit to die. 0.98

00:06:25.800 I out into the street again and to myself says I,

00:06:28.600 oh, it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy go away,

00:06:31.680 but it's thank you, Mr. Atkins, when the band begins to play.

00:06:35.020 The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play.

00:06:37.740 Oh, it's thank you, Mr. Atkins, when the band begins to play.

00:06:40.920 I went into a theater as sober as could be.

00:06:43.760 They gave a drunk civilian room, but hadn't none from me. 0.98

00:06:47.000 They sent me to the gallery or around the music halls,

00:06:49.600 but when it comes to fighting, Lord, they'll shove me in the stalls,

00:06:53.180 for it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy wait outside,

00:06:56.140 but it's special train for Atkins when the trooper's on the tide.

00:06:59.960 The troop ship's on the tide, my boys, the troop ship's on the tide.

00:07:03.240 Oh, it's special train for Atkins when the trooper's on the tide.

00:07:06.220 Yes, making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep

00:07:10.500 is cheaper than them uniforms, and they're starvation cheap,

00:07:14.720 and hustling drunken soldiers when they're going large a bit

00:07:18.280 is five times better business than parading in full kit.

00:07:21.980 Then it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy, how's your soul?

00:07:25.120 But it's thin red line of Eros when the drums begin to roll.

00:07:29.240 The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll.

00:07:31.980 It's thin red line of Eros where the drums begin to roll.

00:07:36.220 We aren't no thin red Eros, nor we aren't no blaggards, too,

00:07:40.380 but single men in barracks, most remarkable like you.

00:07:43.440 And if sometimes our conduct isn't all your fancy paints,

00:07:46.700 why single men in barracks don't grow into plaster saints.

00:07:49.940 Well, it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy fall behind,

00:07:53.080 but it's pleased to walk in front, sir, when there's trouble in the wind.

00:07:57.520 There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind.

00:07:59.740 Oh, it's pleased to walk in front, sir, when there's trouble in the wind.

00:08:02.780 You talk a better food for us and schools and fires and all.

00:08:07.660 We'll wait for extra rations if you treat us rational.

00:08:11.040 Don't mess about the cookroom's slops, but prove it to our face.

00:08:15.140 The widow's uniform is not the soldier man's disgrace.

00:08:18.380 For it's Tommy this and Tommy that and chuck him out the brute,

00:08:21.860 but it's savior of his country when the guns begin to shoot.

00:08:25.180 And it's Tommy this and Tommy that and anything you please. 0.88

00:08:28.580 And Tommy ain't a blooming fool.

00:08:29.920 Well, you bet that Tommy sees. 0.97

00:08:32.800 Yeah, it's still that way, isn't it?

00:08:34.600 128 years after that was written.

00:08:37.440 In fact, we in Canada have a prime minister who says

00:08:39.400 that the people we really need to listen to and respect and heed

00:08:43.020 are not our returning soldiers, but returning ISIS terrorists.

00:08:48.440 I think it's now that in Syria and Iraq, they've been declared defeated.

00:08:52.420 There is a question of them coming back to this country, 1.00

00:08:55.700 and you can't possibly monitor all of them, can you?

00:09:00.380 Yes, we have security agencies that are engaged on this file very much,

00:09:05.340 but there's also a lot of community outreach going on.

00:09:08.420 We know that actually someone who has engaged and turned away

00:09:15.360 from that hateful ideology can be an extraordinarily powerful voice.

00:09:20.380 I want to add to that poem, Tommy, a new song I've been listening to

00:09:26.740 since I had my military sea shanty awakening in Halifax a few months ago.

00:09:32.540 I've been listening to this song.

00:09:33.480 It's new to me, but it's a very old song.

00:09:35.600 And as with old songs, there seem to be a lot of different versions of it out there.

00:09:39.040 It talks about a British soldier, Johnny, is his name not Tommy,

00:09:42.240 who is recruited into the army and finds himself sent over to Germany

00:09:45.500 to fight.

00:09:46.540 From what I can find by Googling around a bit,

00:09:49.020 this song refers to the wars in Europe, in Germany,

00:09:52.200 about 300 years ago, battling over Spanish succession and rival empires.

00:09:56.440 Here, give it a listen.

00:09:57.540 This is by the Dreadnaughts.

00:09:59.740 They call their version the Cruel Wars.

00:10:02.000 I've also seen it called Johnny, What'll Happen to You.

00:10:04.620 Here, take a listen.

00:10:05.980 A recruiting sergeant came away from an inn near town at the close of day.

00:10:11.180 He said, my Johnny, you're a fine young man.

00:10:13.260 Would you like to march along behind a military band?

00:10:15.500 With a scarlet coat and a fine cocked hat and a musket at your shoulder.

00:10:20.060 The shilling he took and he kissed the book,

00:10:21.980 Oh, poor Johnny, what'll happen to you?

00:10:25.320 The recruiting sergeant marched away from the inn near town at the break of day.

00:10:30.460 Johnny came to with half a ring.

00:10:32.480 He was off to be a soldier to go fighting for the king.

00:10:34.660 In a far-off war, in a far-off land, to face the foreign soldier. 0.94

00:10:39.260 But how will you fare when there's lead in the air?

00:10:41.480 Oh, poor Johnny, what'll happen to you?

00:10:43.660 Well, the sun rose high on a barren land where the thin red line made a military stand.

00:10:49.720 There was slingshot, chainshot, grapeshot too.

00:10:52.240 Swords and bayonets thrusting through.

00:10:54.560 Poor Johnny fell, but the day was won and the king is grateful to you.

00:10:58.460 But your soldier is done and they're sending you home.

00:11:00.800 Oh, poor Johnny, what'll happen to you?

00:11:03.220 They said he was a hero and not to grieve for the two ruined legs and the empty sleeve.

00:11:09.440 Took him home and they set him down with a military pension and a medal from the crown.

00:11:13.740 But you haven't an arm, you haven't a leg.

00:11:16.120 The enemy nearly slew you.

00:11:18.260 You'll have to go out in the streets and beg.

00:11:20.220 Oh, poor Johnny, what'll happen to you?

00:11:22.600 A recruiting sergeant came away from the inn near town at the close of day.

00:11:28.660 He said, my Johnny, you're a fine young man.

00:11:30.780 Would you like to march along behind a military band with a scarlet coat and a fine cocked hat and a musket at your shoulder?

00:11:37.640 The shilling he took and he kissed a book.

00:11:39.580 Oh, poor Johnny, what'll happen to you?

00:11:41.960 Now, some say it's an anti-war song.

00:11:46.440 I mean, didn't Johnny lose his legs and an arm for a pointless war in a faraway land?

00:11:51.080 I mean, Germany, who cares? 1.00

00:11:53.480 It was 300 years ago.

00:11:55.320 And wasn't Johnny being treated poorly when he returned?

00:11:57.520 He has to beg in the street.

00:11:59.500 Now, I take those points and I see the analogy today.

00:12:01.600 Our men are wounded and left without proper care, sometimes begging.

00:12:05.480 And faraway lands like high Germany in the 1700s.

00:12:08.540 Well, that was closer to a true British interest geographically, economically, politically, religiously in the year 1700 when empires were clashing than Canada today sending Canadian troops to Mali.

00:12:24.060 Can you find Mali on a map?

00:12:26.760 No, seriously, can you?

00:12:28.560 Can you name a Canadian interest in Mali?

00:12:31.820 Can you tell me why a single Canadian should lose his or her life in Mali?

00:12:36.900 Other than for some obscure political point for Trudeau.

00:12:41.040 So I like that song by the Dreadnoughts because it's an angry song about how soldiers are recruited and then expended.

00:12:47.020 But to me, the lesson isn't to stop soldiering or stop recruiting, but rather the opposite.

00:12:51.700 To treat soldiers better, both when they're in the army and after, not to send them on pointless missions in faraway lands with no connection to their homes.

00:13:00.160 I saw this ridiculous and outrageous cartoon in the New York Times just last week.

00:13:04.320 It was after news that Donald Trump was sending soldiers to defend the southern border against the migrant caravan making its way through Mexico that sought to break through the border into the U.S. 0.65

00:13:16.540 to illegally migrate.

00:13:17.900 Some of them, of course, were armed.

00:13:20.340 Some were criminals.

00:13:20.960 That cartoon implies that Trump abuses the troops by sending them to defend America's borders, that his priorities are wrong and that the military dislikes Trump.

00:13:33.400 Yeah, they surely prefer Democrats.

00:13:35.180 And look at what they're made to say.

00:13:36.440 Put the cartoon back up just for a second.

00:13:37.980 The soldiers are made to say, I enrolled to fight in the Middle East.

00:13:45.760 Now, I'm sure some did. 0.94

00:13:48.120 America was attacked by Muslim terrorists 17 years ago. 1.00

00:13:51.080 And many men did enlist, not enroll, but enlist.

00:13:55.560 No one in the New York Times actually knows a soldier, so they don't know the lingo.

00:13:58.420 But the idea that American soldiers prefer to fight in some God-forsaken faraway land like Afghanistan instead of to defend America's borders is absurd.

00:14:08.820 You have to work for the New York Times to believe that.

00:14:11.700 I believe we ought to respect our troops from the moment they're recruited, throughout their service, and afterwards. 0.65

00:14:16.240 That means not sending them on foolish missions like Mali.

00:14:20.120 That means giving them proper pay and equipment while they serve.

00:14:22.640 That means taking care of them if they're wounded.

00:14:24.700 300 years after the War of Spanish Succession, the one in that Dreadnought song,

00:14:30.380 130 years after Kipling, 17 years after 9-11, it's the same.

00:14:35.980 I think we need to do a better job of remembering, don't you?

00:14:39.200 Stay with us for more.

00:14:54.700 Welcome back.

00:14:57.640 Well, I tried not to be partisan in my opening remarks, although you would have to be blind and deaf not to see the difference in respect and attitude towards our military when you're comparing the Republicans or the Democrats.

00:15:11.860 When you're comparing the British Conservatives or the British Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, who literally laid a wreath for Hamas terrorists. 0.93

00:15:21.840 And in our own country, too, Justin Trudeau, who prefers to take photos with Joshua Boyle, the Taliban accomplice, as opposed to any Canadian forces.

00:15:32.880 But we have news of a nonpartisan disaster that's been going on for a decade.

00:15:42.800 Here's the story in CTV.

00:15:46.460 270,000 veterans are owed $165 million for a disability pension error.

00:15:54.880 Now, obviously, 270,000 veterans, that's stretching back historically, years, decades even.

00:16:03.580 A calculation error is blamed.

00:16:07.760 You can't hang this around the necks of the liberals because this has been on for so long between the liberals and the Tories.

00:16:12.920 But it's just a sign.

00:16:15.180 If this were any other group in society, shortchanging them a sixth of a billion dollars.

00:16:21.440 I mean, God forbid the public sector government workers union is shortchanged a dime. 0.97

00:16:26.760 They'll raise bloody hell.

00:16:27.840 Where are the advocates for the veterans?

00:16:29.740 Joining us now via Skype from Edmonton to talk about this is our Alberta Bureau Chief, Sheila Gunnery.

00:16:34.580 Sheila, great to see you again.

00:16:36.420 Hey, Ezra.

00:16:36.960 Thanks for having me on.

00:16:38.300 You know, there's a military tradition in Edmonton.

00:16:42.360 Ever since Jean Chrétien shut down the military base in Calgary as a punishment to that city,

00:16:49.080 Edmonton as sort of being the military city in Alberta.

00:16:57.200 And it's also the veteran city now.

00:17:00.300 We've seen various vets in that city being ignored and abandoned by the government.

00:17:06.880 I won't just put it around the liberals, but it's more acute that way.

00:17:11.700 Do you think things are getting better or do you think things are getting worse?

00:17:15.980 For veterans?

00:17:17.040 Yeah.

00:17:17.160 Well, obviously, they're getting worse.

00:17:21.500 All we have to do is look at how the liberals prioritize veterans issues compared to the issues of people like Omar Khadr.

00:17:30.380 Omar Khadr gets 10 million dollars while our veterans are consistently shortchanged.

00:17:37.580 They can't follow through with their promises for their pension for life.

00:17:43.420 Veterans groups are outraged about that.

00:17:45.280 The liberals, it came to light a couple of months ago that our military, our active service military, have to share sleeping bags amongst themselves because they don't have enough.

00:17:58.900 Likewise, with their rucksacks, they the rucksacks that they do use are 30 plus years old and they have to share those amongst themselves.

00:18:07.380 Then all we have to do is keep looking at how ill-equipped our military is.

00:18:13.260 We're buying used fighter jets from Australia, which will be older than some of our fighter pilots.

00:18:22.460 And that's the liberals' idea of taking care of the Canadian military.

00:18:27.020 That Australian F-18 purchase is particularly odious because it's so obviously a fit of pique by Trudeau against the United States over a quarrel involving Bombardier.

00:18:40.280 Bombardier, of course, as I don't know if we've covered it in the rebel yet, after all the billions they've taken, they've laid off thousands, sold out.

00:18:49.240 And they just sort of took the money and run.

00:18:51.000 And we're still neglecting.

00:18:53.360 When we were in Israel, we saw the F-35 jet in action.

00:19:00.960 And, I mean, I've seen F-15s and F-16s.

00:19:05.080 They're pretty amazing in the sky.

00:19:06.760 When that F-35 takes wing, it's the toughest, baddest thing in the air.

00:19:11.540 I'm a little bit embarrassed that instead of buying that, we're buying the castaways from Australia so they can get more modern jets.

00:19:21.620 I just, it's so symbolic.

00:19:24.020 It's so symbolic, isn't it?

00:19:25.680 Well, yeah, I mean, the Canadian Air Force is now caught in the crossfire between Justin Trudeau's anti-Trump attitude and his devotion to spending money outside of Canada as opposed to spending it within Canada.

00:19:43.060 Another slight that the Liberals have committed against veterans is the Christopher Garnier case.

00:19:50.940 He battered, murdered, and disposed of an off-duty policewoman.

00:19:58.000 Her name was Catherine Campbell. 0.99

00:19:59.940 He stuffed her in a garbage can like garbage. 0.99

00:20:02.760 Christopher Garnier was never a veteran, never served a day in the Canadian military, never gave anything of himself to this country. 0.97

00:20:10.320 But his dad is.

00:20:11.360 And because of that, Veterans Affairs under the Liberals was paying for a private psychiatrist for Christopher Garnier, a convicted murderer behind bars, because getting Christopher Garnier treatment for the PTSD that he admits he gave himself when he murdered this woman somehow benefits his veteran's father.

00:20:36.040 And what a slap in the face of Canadian veterans who, some of them are taking their lives because they don't have access to timely mental health care.

00:20:45.140 You know, it's interesting.

00:20:48.060 I've been observing our former colleague, Tommy Robinson, and some of his veterans charity work overseas.

00:20:54.820 And I can't help but think we have those same problems here in Canada.

00:20:58.880 We must.

00:20:59.440 I just don't think we have sort of a rogue veterans advocate like Tommy Robinson.

00:21:05.220 I mean, Tommy's a wild man.

00:21:06.240 He's unstoppable.

00:21:07.140 If he sees a problem, he'll make a ruckus.

00:21:09.220 I don't think we have that.

00:21:10.540 When Stephen Harper was prime minister, we had sort of an astroturf, fake liberal veterans, as if there's such a thing, just sort of constantly bad-mouthing Stephen Harper.

00:21:22.020 And now that Trudeau's in, they've vaporized this liberals veterans advocacy group because they were never really about advocating for veterans, but advocating for liberals.

00:21:33.080 I feel like we need an uncontrolled veterans advocate. 0.93

00:21:39.300 And by that, I mean not someone who is on the payroll of the government, not someone who's looking for an order of Canada from Justin Trudeau, someone who is strictly loyal to the troops.

00:21:50.260 And this is something I should tell you, Sheila, and we haven't fully aired this whole story.

00:21:54.720 When we tried to raise money last year for a food bank on a military base, as in this was not a military base collecting food for the local community.

00:22:04.020 Soldiers on the base were so underpaid.

00:22:06.840 They had to collect food in food hampers for each other.

00:22:10.080 We raised the money to take care of it.

00:22:12.140 So Trudeau ordered the local base not to accept our charity money because he preferred to keep them hungry than to be embarrassed by the fact that he was keeping them hungry.

00:22:22.000 We tried to donate that money to several other military veterans charities.

00:22:27.080 And who's ever heard of a charity turning away money before?

00:22:30.480 That doesn't even make sense.

00:22:32.260 That's frankly contrary to their fiduciary duty.

00:22:35.760 But all these veterans groups, all these military charities immediately panicked when we showed up because they know Justin Trudeau hates the rebel.

00:22:46.180 And so they're more worried about preserving their liberal connections than they are with helping vets.

00:22:52.160 I guess what I'm saying, Sheila, is I wish there was some, rogue is the wrong word because that makes it sound negative.

00:22:57.220 Just some truly independent veterans group that doesn't give a damn about Justin Trudeau, that would actually fight zealously for actual veterans.

00:23:06.680 You know, I agree with you.

00:23:08.320 Going back to your comments about the sort of astroturf pro-liberal, pro-veterans group that suddenly vaporized when the liberals were elected.

00:23:18.560 That wasn't even about the veterans.

00:23:20.900 It was about the unions that go about providing services to veterans.

00:23:25.760 And Stephen Harper was trying to streamline that so that more money went to the hands of the veterans as opposed to the bureaucrats who allegedly serve the veterans.

00:23:36.740 They came out and used the veterans as their reason for being, the reason that they were so outraged when it was really about protecting public service jobs.

00:23:46.260 It is a great shame that we don't have a really bold, nonpartisan, pro-veterans group here in Canada.

00:23:57.180 But, I mean, when you see the way the liberals are spiteful with military procurement,

00:24:05.840 I understand why some of these veterans groups aren't as bold as we'd like them to be.

00:24:12.560 Yeah. I mean, I think we're at three veterans charities now.

00:24:16.160 When we approach them, when we approach the actual day-to-day workers, they're thrilled.

00:24:21.060 They can't believe someone's trying to give them a check for, I think, $16,000.

00:24:24.840 And then they accept the check and then a few hours later we get a phone call.

00:24:32.540 Yeah, we have to give the money back.

00:24:34.240 It's so transparent and it's so cruel.

00:24:38.600 And I'm embarrassed and angry for these veterans charities for being that way.

00:24:43.520 But I can only imagine they've done the math and they say if we take actual charity from a conservative,

00:24:48.840 the liberals will punish us so badly, it's counterproductive to the veterans.

00:24:53.240 We need someone who has no government contracts, no political ambitions, doesn't care, has no pressure points.

00:25:02.880 Probably, frankly, a retired veteran himself or herself who has no skin in a political game anymore,

00:25:10.880 who doesn't care if Trudeau or Harjeet Sajjan, the stolen valor defense minister, badmouths them.

00:25:19.580 And I really, I mean, it's not me.

00:25:22.200 And I don't even, maybe it's you, Sheila, but I think it has to be someone who truly comes from a military background,

00:25:29.720 truly is a veteran and knows veterans and veterans would instinctively trust and relate to them.

00:25:37.220 I'd like to find someone in Canada who would say, I am willing to be the pro-veterans gadfly

00:25:43.840 and I'm not scared of Trudeau or the military establishment because I'm putting veterans first.

00:25:50.080 I don't know who that person is.

00:25:52.240 I don't know who that person is either.

00:25:54.160 I hope they're watching at home.

00:25:56.280 I hope there is somebody out there who is more concerned with helping veterans than being liked by Justin Trudeau.

00:26:03.120 And it seems to me that that's what a lot of the bureaucrats and administration around these military charities,

00:26:11.280 that seems to be their motivation.

00:26:12.980 They're more concerned with being liked and popular with the liberal establishment

00:26:17.520 than they are making sure that our veterans get fed.

00:26:20.120 Yeah, and you know what, people say, Ezra, you talk too much about Tommy Robinson, and it's probably true, 1.00

00:26:24.680 but in the case of his, he recently dropped off a petition of almost 200,000 names at 10 Downing Street about soldiers.

00:26:32.820 So he's doing all this pro-soldier activism.

00:26:36.840 He's not a soldier himself, he's not a veteran himself, but he just has sort of an emotional connection to them.

00:26:41.920 That's what got him started in this, when returning Afghan vets were met with booze and burning poppies, 1.00

00:26:50.420 and when Lee Rigby was murdered on the street.

00:26:52.560 This sort of flicked a switch on for him.

00:26:55.240 I wonder if there's a Canadian who had a switch flipped on when Nathan Cirillo or Patrice Vincent were murdered.

00:27:02.500 I wonder if there's a Canadian, I mean, we have 35 million Canadians.

00:27:06.000 Surely there's someone who says, you know what, I'm going to do this,

00:27:10.280 and I'm not going to do it in a bureaucratic way.

00:27:12.540 Anyway, if such a person exists, I hope they present themselves to you,

00:27:16.780 Sheila at TheRebel.media, or me, Ezra at TheRebel.media,

00:27:19.820 because I'd certainly like to get behind such a person

00:27:23.780 and do the kind of crowdfunding for individual veterans cases,

00:27:27.480 do the kind of petitions that he's doing over there in the UK.

00:27:30.280 So I guess my point about Tommy is maybe he can be a role model or an inspiration for what we do here in Canada,

00:27:36.060 because I know we have the same problems that the British military has.

00:27:41.320 I know we have them here.

00:27:42.860 We just don't have an activist like they have over there.

00:27:46.520 Yeah, and you know, I was just thinking about when we were in Israel.

00:27:50.820 When we were in Israel, there's an absence,

00:27:53.160 and I know it's because they have, you know, mandatory military service,

00:27:58.200 but there is such a difference in how they treat their military

00:28:02.400 and how they respect their military.

00:28:03.760 And when we were at that air show, how Netanyahu,

00:28:09.080 you could tell he had love and affection for his air force.

00:28:14.680 We don't see that in Canada.

00:28:16.000 We don't have a politician even, even the defense minister

00:28:19.880 or the veterans affairs minister,

00:28:21.540 who has that sort of appreciation, affection, and respect

00:28:25.680 for the people who are protecting Canadian values.

00:28:28.500 Yeah.

00:28:28.960 Well, I remember that air show, and we'll show some footage of it.

00:28:32.320 It was an incredible air show.

00:28:33.580 It was a graduation for the Israel Air Force Academy.

00:28:38.280 What was interesting to me, I mean, it was awesome to see the technology.

00:28:41.040 It was awesome to see the F-35 and some of the other gear they had.

00:28:46.100 But to me, the most remarkable thing was you had the prime minister, Netanyahu,

00:28:50.260 who, of course, was a paratrooper commando when he was young.

00:28:53.400 You had the defense minister.

00:28:54.620 I think you had the president of the country, too.

00:28:56.980 They gave speeches, but then they didn't just hop into their limo and speed off.

00:29:00.940 In Canada, if you had like a four-hour graduation ceremony,

00:29:06.460 if a politician came, he'd come, give a 10-minute speech,

00:29:09.980 stay just long enough that it wasn't embarrassing, then he'd skedaddle.

00:29:13.700 But there, all these politicians stayed for the duration,

00:29:17.720 and then afterwards they stayed to shake hands with the cadets and their families,

00:29:22.240 the graduates and their families.

00:29:24.520 So it was actually a genuine affection.

00:29:27.520 And I know Trudeau couldn't stand the kind of person who would actually enlist in the Canadian military,

00:29:34.300 and vice versa.

00:29:35.020 They probably couldn't stand him.

00:29:36.140 No, and I think the sun can only shine on one at once.

00:29:41.000 With Justin Trudeau, I think part of the reason he wouldn't want to go to a military parade

00:29:45.460 is because he wasn't the guy graduating.

00:29:48.540 You know, he's the baby at every christening and the bride at every wedding.

00:29:52.100 It's funny, my daughter is an air cadet.

00:29:57.260 And just even to communicate to Canadian air cadets what I saw

00:30:02.900 and the performance that the Air Force put on for the families at the Air Force graduation,

00:30:10.380 it's something we don't experience here in Canada.

00:30:13.580 And I think it has a lot to do with the fact that we don't have mandatory military service.

00:30:17.420 Yeah.

00:30:17.740 I mean, there's a downside to conscription.

00:30:19.760 I mean, it basically takes a year or two out of the life of a young person.

00:30:24.460 It can put their personal plans on hold, their career plans on hold.

00:30:29.060 But you can see it in Israel.

00:30:30.980 It's a great leveler.

00:30:32.380 Whether you're fancy or poor, you're all in it together.

00:30:36.100 Whether you're religious or not, whether you're from the city or the country, you're all.

00:30:40.800 And there's nothing more team building, camaraderie, unifying than serving in danger with someone.

00:30:47.920 I can only imagine having not done it myself.

00:30:50.360 And you learn some leadership.

00:30:52.780 You learn some fitness.

00:30:53.800 You learn a trade in Israel.

00:30:57.560 You learn one of the reasons they're so high tech is their military is high tech.

00:31:01.420 And all these people come out of the military and they have a real skill.

00:31:04.580 You're right.

00:31:05.040 I tell you, I sometimes wonder if my own what my own life path would have been like had I been conscripted.

00:31:12.220 I probably would have resisted the compulsion of it, but I'm sure I would be fitter, a better team player.

00:31:19.220 And I would be able to say that I actually lived up to my own words about national duty and responsibility.

00:31:27.040 I could say with honesty and certainty that I had at least served.

00:31:34.340 And there is something to be said for conscription.

00:31:36.760 Last word to you, Sheila.

00:31:37.720 Well, I guess my last word is that, you know, this is Remembrance Day.

00:31:45.460 It's 100 years of the armistice.

00:31:49.700 And this is something that really gave birth to Canada as a nation.

00:31:55.300 And it's very easy to forget because it's not wartime.

00:31:59.140 We don't have any any people deployed in active wars.

00:32:05.340 But we can forget that we do have people deployed on peacekeeping missions overseas, highly dangerous.

00:32:11.520 And this Remembrance Day, I think it's a time for us to give thanks and appreciate all the sacrifices that have been made.

00:32:20.700 Well, there you have it.

00:32:21.500 I agree with that.

00:32:22.560 Sheila Gunn-Reed, great to talk to you today.

00:32:24.300 And of course, I'll see you tomorrow in Calgary at therebellive.com.

00:32:29.680 I know we have we are slightly oversold.

00:32:33.520 I just checked and we've actually sold two more tickets than we have.

00:32:38.340 Uh-oh, you know what?

00:32:41.160 I'm sure we'll be able to add a few more chairs and there might be some no-shows for whatever reason.

00:32:46.540 So we may still have a few tickets at the door.

00:32:48.980 But I'm delighted to say that the Rebel Live Calgary is completely sold out tomorrow.

00:32:54.860 So our Calgary friends will look forward to seeing you there all day.

00:32:58.100 I'll see you there too, Sheila.

00:33:00.220 Great.

00:33:00.680 We'll see you then, Ezra.

00:33:01.640 Okay.

00:33:02.500 Well, there you have it.

00:33:03.500 Stay with us.

00:33:04.140 Your letters to me next.

00:33:08.340 I've got some letters.

00:33:18.580 I'll read them to you.

00:33:19.500 They're not on the theme of Remembrance Day.

00:33:21.120 On my monologue yesterday, Paul writes,

00:33:22.540 The acrobatics that these leftists go through to reach the conclusions that they do is truly amazing.

00:33:27.720 The Liberal Party spends half its time looking for someone to blame their failings on and the other half projecting those failings onto others.

00:33:33.980 It's Harper's fault.

00:33:34.880 It's Trump's fault.

00:33:35.780 To say it's childish is an understatement.

00:33:37.940 Canada isn't run by adults at this point.

00:33:40.540 Paul, I've got to tell you, your letter, I'm not sure exactly which story it refers to, I think it could refer to 50% of the stories we talk about involving Justin Trudeau, his cabinet, or Democrats in the States.

00:33:55.840 Liza writes,

00:33:58.960 Does Justin think we don't know Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moved the American embassy there? 1.00

00:34:04.800 What disgusting lying bull. 0.98

00:34:06.400 Netanyahu has said that no other president has been as supportive of Israel as Trump. 0.99

00:34:11.280 Ah, maybe Paul was talking about that Anthony Housefather story.

00:34:15.400 Yeah, you know, the Liberal Party of Canada used to be the party of the Jews,

00:34:19.820 which was always odd to me because Trudeau Sr. didn't like the Jews much.

00:34:26.340 And, you know, Jean Chrétien and the others were no friends to Israel.

00:34:30.800 But I would say they were not positively bad.

00:34:34.320 That started to wobble about 10 years ago.

00:34:37.360 Stéphane Dion got really bad about that.

00:34:39.960 And now the party, like the Democrats in the States, like the Labour Party in the UK,

00:34:45.340 is being colonized by anti-Semitic Muslim votes.

00:34:50.160 And I think that causes some political schizophrenia amongst the remaining Jews in that party,

00:35:00.220 like Anthony Housefather.

00:35:01.900 Or it should.

00:35:03.500 On my interview with Count Dankula, Tom writes,

00:35:07.240 The joke was sick, but I'm going to be honest, I've laughed at many sick jokes in my life.

00:35:10.820 These people who birthed the effigy lack morals and compassion,

00:35:13.160 but are these traits now an arrestable offense?

00:35:16.480 You know, I was trying to think about that because it's in bad taste that I can imagine.

00:35:20.080 If I saw someone burning the Twin Towers, World Trade Center 9-11, I would feel upset with them.

00:35:25.960 And I can imagine people who grieved over the 70 plus lost lives at Grenfell Towers would feel the same way.

00:35:31.400 I don't quite understand the holiday of Guy Fawkes Day and what burning effigies means.

00:35:36.820 I don't quite know if it's a hateful thing or a memorial thing.

00:35:41.480 I don't know.

00:35:42.700 But you're so right.

00:35:44.400 And I sometimes pose the question to would-be censors,

00:35:47.840 If a joke is really, really funny, is it allowed if it's in bad faith?

00:35:55.360 Sorry, not bad faith, if it's in bad taste?

00:35:58.040 Or even racist?

00:35:59.860 Like, is a joke okay if it's hilarious?

00:36:04.000 Or if it's also offensive?

00:36:07.640 Or does it become not allowable if it's offensive but not funny?

00:36:12.980 It's the only joke you can have, an unfunny joke that's not offensive.

00:36:17.600 And of course, we're all trying to get to the funny joke that's not offensive.

00:36:21.140 But there's not that many of those, is there?

00:36:24.400 I mean, anyone with kids knows that if you Google kids' jokes, they're pretty tame.

00:36:30.860 They're more puns.

00:36:31.700 Like, why were the strawberries sad?

00:36:38.540 Because their parents were in a jam.

00:36:42.980 All right, so that's a kid's joke.

00:36:46.000 I don't think you can get truly funny, knee-slapping funny jokes

00:36:51.660 unless you offend some sort of sensibility.

00:36:55.380 And by definition, that's going to upset someone.

00:36:59.480 And what are the other rules?

00:37:02.100 Can you tell a racist joke if you are of that race, but not if you're not? 0.96

00:37:07.400 Like, can Eddie Murphy or other black comedians use the N-word? 0.66

00:37:13.280 Woody Allen and Seinfeld, I'd say about 50% of their jokes are Jewish jokes.

00:37:18.820 If anyone else told them, would they not be funny?

00:37:21.520 Is it only okay if a Jew tells them? 1.00

00:37:24.420 I don't know what the rules are, but I think that's the thing about comedy.

00:37:27.420 You can't really apply rules to it or it doesn't work.

00:37:30.340 Look, that's my beef with this Grenfell effigy burning.

00:37:34.740 There was no real crime done in any way there.

00:37:37.420 If we're trying to police laughter...

00:37:40.060 And that was another question I had from Mark Mecham, a.k.a. Count Ancula.

00:37:43.400 Was the crime the burning of it, the laughing at the burning?

00:37:47.500 If they would weep as they burned it, would that be okay?

00:37:50.860 Hey, look, I don't want to live in a country where we have to parse jokes and private bonfires this way,

00:37:59.100 but that's what the United Kingdom has become.

00:38:00.940 And I promise you, we are just moments away from that in Canada, too.

00:38:04.840 All right, enough talk about that.

00:38:06.640 For our Calgarian friends out there, I'll see you tomorrow at the Rebel Live.

00:38:10.360 Everyone else, have a great weekend.

00:38:13.060 Remember, remember and stay on the 11th, and we'll be back in studio on Monday the 12th.

00:38:18.420 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - November 10, 2018

Remembrance Day： The liberal establishment pretends to care about our military one day a year

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