Rebel News Podcast - August 17, 2018


SCANDAL： Trudeau gives radical groups like Greenpeace charity status — and retroactive pardons for breaking tax laws


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Justin Trudeau wants radical environmental groups like Greenpeace to have tax-free charity status. Should the oil and gas companies become a charity too? Ezra Levenrant explains why this is a bad idea, and why you should be worried.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, Trudeau decides that radical groups like Greenpeace should be allowed to have
00:00:04.120 tax-free charity status. Should the rebel become a charity too?
00:00:08.880 It's August 16th and you're watching the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:17.140 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:20.980 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:24.700 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:27.680 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my
00:00:32.700 bloody right to do so.
00:00:38.360 Justin Trudeau has announced that he intends to give his anti-oil sands allies full charity
00:00:44.500 status and more than that to remove long-standing restrictions on their political campaigns.
00:00:51.220 You'll recall that in the 2015 election, more than 100 so-called third-party campaign groups
00:00:56.620 registered with Elections Canada and all but one of them were pro-Trudeau.
00:01:01.580 They conducted opinion polls, they had lawn signs and other ads, they had sophisticated
00:01:06.020 get-out-the-vote campaigns.
00:01:07.980 They were particularly active in British Columbia and helped Trudeau win so many seats there,
00:01:12.480 which is why he, in return, blocked the Northern Gateway Pipeline and bought the Trans Mountain
00:01:18.240 Pipeline so he could slow down and stop its expansion.
00:01:21.400 So yesterday, Trudeau's Minister of National Revenue announced that Trudeau is going to
00:01:27.460 permit political activity, political lobbying, public pressure, and propaganda campaigns and
00:01:34.540 remove any limit on them until now.
00:01:37.960 Understand, charities were only allowed to spend up to 10% of their money on politics.
00:01:42.280 Now, that's unlimited.
00:01:46.880 Now, it's no coincidence that Trudeau's right-hand man, Gerald Butts, was the former president
00:01:51.080 of the World Wildlife Fund Canada, one of these hyper-political lobby groups that somehow
00:01:56.960 got charity status.
00:01:59.280 You should know that the World Wildlife Fund continued to pay Gerald Butts for more than
00:02:03.720 a year after he left their company and went on to work for Justin Trudeau.
00:02:09.340 They literally subsidized Trudeau's principal secretary massively, huge, almost half a million
00:02:16.940 Canadian dollars.
00:02:18.900 Just massive, huge transfers of cash.
00:02:20.360 What an obvious quid pro quo for Gerald Butts to now return the favor.
00:02:24.300 A more ethical government would not have permitted that.
00:02:26.480 But then again, Justin Trudeau himself is the first prime minister ever to be convicted
00:02:29.940 of breaking a federal law, four times, namely the conflict of interest laws.
00:02:33.960 I mean, seriously, a prime minister who takes a free $100,000 holiday on a billionaire's
00:02:38.480 private island and keeps that secret, he's not really going to complain about his principal
00:02:42.820 secretary pocketing, I don't know, almost half a million Canadian dollars from a lobby
00:02:47.420 group, is he?
00:02:49.000 It's not just Trudeau's right-hand man.
00:02:51.980 The chief of staff to the global warming minister, Catherine McKenna, his name's Marlo
00:02:55.600 Reynolds.
00:02:56.240 He used to be the boss of the Pembina Institute, another anti-oil sands lobby group in trouble
00:03:01.040 with the CRA.
00:03:01.980 The chief of staff to Jim Carr, Zoe Caron, was the president of the Sierra Club of Canada,
00:03:08.880 another lobby group in trouble with the CRA.
00:03:11.980 The senior environmental advisor to Trudeau himself.
00:03:14.360 This lady, Sarah Goodman, was the senior vice president of the Tides Foundation, repeatedly
00:03:19.840 audited for breaking charities laws.
00:03:21.920 Do you see a pattern here?
00:03:22.800 All of these anti-oil sands extremist groups, all of these lobbyist groups, each of which
00:03:28.460 is foreign funded, each of which campaigns against our oil and gas industry, they all 0.96
00:03:33.140 have their charitable status under review at the Canada Revenue Agency, them and others,
00:03:38.020 and frankly, I helped lead the charge against them when I ran that little group I had called
00:03:42.160 ethicaloil.org.
00:03:43.360 So they were all in jeopardy because you simply can't engage in politics while claiming charitable
00:03:48.660 tax status.
00:03:49.280 You can't.
00:03:49.880 It has to be less than 10% of what a charity does.
00:03:51.980 Now, I'll come back to Trudeau's announcement in a moment, but let me just remind you about
00:03:55.780 what a charity is and what a charity isn't.
00:03:59.420 Do you think that Greenpeace is a charity?
00:04:01.980 Of course it is not.
00:04:03.100 It is a political advocacy group, at best, a criminal organization at worst.
00:04:07.200 I don't say that as an insult.
00:04:08.380 Rather, it's an observation.
00:04:09.540 It's the signature tactic of theirs to commit crimes, trespass, vandalism, mischief.
00:04:16.220 They're not spontaneous events, random accidents.
00:04:17.980 They're not accidents.
00:04:18.920 They are planned PR tactics.
00:04:21.520 And every single one of them is accompanied by a fundraising campaign.
00:04:26.080 That's not a charity.
00:04:27.940 And you don't need to take my opinion for it.
00:04:29.660 On two separate occasions, the Canadian government, the CRA, or as it used to be called, Revenue
00:04:33.760 Canada, revoked Greenpeace's charity status.
00:04:36.540 It's once under a conservative prime minister named Brian Mulroney and once under a liberal
00:04:40.320 prime minister named Jean Chrétien.
00:04:41.720 And I mentioned those two partisan prime ministers to imply unanimity on the subject.
00:04:46.040 But of course, the decision is not made by the prime minister.
00:04:49.180 It's made by nonpartisan bureaucrats and auditors at the Canada Revenue Agency.
00:04:53.480 See, it's not a political partisan decision as to whether or not Greenpeace is a charity.
00:04:57.300 It's a matter of fact and law.
00:04:58.780 The law is called the Income Tax Act.
00:05:01.460 You simply don't get the benefits and privilege of being a charity if you don't meet the tests.
00:05:07.280 And decades, even centuries of law and policy tell us what a charity is and what a charity
00:05:11.760 isn't.
00:05:12.300 It's common sense and it's history.
00:05:13.880 It's our culture, really.
00:05:14.700 Traditionally, charities are hospitals, schools, religious institutions, and then there's sort
00:05:21.860 of a catch-all, things indisputably for the public good, like a food bank.
00:05:27.480 It has to be indisputable, otherwise it wouldn't be a charity.
00:05:30.080 If there was another side to the story, then it's just politics, not charity, right?
00:05:33.480 There is no other side to the story.
00:05:35.340 There's no counterpoint to an orphanage or to a food bank, right?
00:05:40.600 But there is, to what Greenpeace does, they're against capitalism, they're against oil and
00:05:44.800 gas, for example, but that is far from a universal position.
00:05:47.720 And of course, there's Greenpeace's tactics, which themselves are inherently illegal.
00:05:51.880 They couldn't possibly be a charity.
00:05:54.900 David Suzuki doesn't commit crimes like Greenpeace.
00:05:57.920 Actually, I'm not so sure about that.
00:05:59.680 He appears to be breaking a court injunction here in front of Kinder Morgan.
00:06:03.620 And of course, he went to the Burnaby Riots a few years ago to give support to the lawbreakers
00:06:07.680 there.
00:06:08.000 But he's normally more careful than that.
00:06:10.180 But still, here's Suzuki, after whom the David Suzuki Foundation is named, filming a
00:06:16.060 Liberal Party campaign ad with Dalton McGinty a few years back, clearly partisan.
00:06:22.160 Why does he get to call that charity?
00:06:25.060 All the 100 groups that promoted Trudeau in the last election, why is any of that charitable?
00:06:30.540 All these foreign-funded lobbyists, why is that a charity?
00:06:33.160 As in, why do you and I have to work hard at our businesses and we pay taxes so these
00:06:40.020 people don't have to?
00:06:42.140 And so they can issue tax receipts for their causes?
00:06:44.720 I know the answer when it comes to hospitals and orphanages, because we all agree, whether
00:06:48.500 we're left-wing or right-wing, Liberal or Tory, that anyone who runs an orphanage is doing
00:06:52.180 something for us all, in a way, for humanity.
00:06:55.040 And we should support that.
00:06:56.300 Run an orphanage.
00:06:57.140 Run a food bank.
00:06:57.780 But why do you and I have to pay our taxes so that Greenpeace wouldn't have to?
00:07:03.940 And that's what this announcement yesterday from Trudeau says.
00:07:07.340 Not only is he going to let charities be political now, so Greenpeace can come back in as a charity
00:07:12.580 now, but he's going to retroactively give a de facto pardon to all of his crooked friends
00:07:19.500 who were breaking the law for years.
00:07:22.320 Let me quote from the press release.
00:07:23.940 Our government intends to present legislation to this effect in the fall.
00:07:28.520 The Canada Revenue Agency will develop supporting guidance in collaboration with the charitable
00:07:32.740 sector.
00:07:33.500 That is, he's going to ask his buddies, should we legalize it?
00:07:36.120 Gee, what are they going to say?
00:07:37.680 The legislation will be drafted to apply retroactively, including to the audits and objections that
00:07:43.360 are currently suspended.
00:07:44.760 This suspension will be lifted when the legislation is passed by Parliament, unquote.
00:07:48.300 Do you see what he's saying?
00:07:50.100 Trudeau is saying everyone who cheated under the existing Income Tax Act, everyone who thought
00:07:55.880 they were above the law, thought they could get away with it, everyone who thought that
00:07:58.700 paying taxes was just for the little people, everyone who thought because they were Trudeau's
00:08:01.980 cronies they'd get away with it, they are all going to get away with it. 1.00
00:08:05.720 They're all getting their problems with Revenue Canada just wiped out.
00:08:09.500 It must be nice, eh?
00:08:10.340 If you were audited by Revenue Canada, like the Tides Foundation and the other pro-Trudeau
00:08:15.880 lobby group charities were, if you were audited for tax evasion for your business, if you
00:08:20.440 broke the law and were in trouble, would you be able to call up the Prime Minister and have
00:08:26.260 him call off the auditors and make all of your tax cheat problems go away?
00:08:31.500 And so gross, so unethical.
00:08:33.280 I've already shown you how the senior staff in Justin Trudeau's key ministries are affiliated
00:08:37.600 with these very charities that are being audited.
00:08:40.580 Can you imagine if Stephen Harper had appointed senior oil and gas executives to run all the
00:08:45.480 key ministries in his government energy environment, the PMO, and then passed laws retroactively
00:08:50.120 pardoning any oil companies for their law-breaking, and then it turned out that Harper's senior
00:08:56.260 aide had actually been on an oil company's payroll for two years, collecting almost half
00:09:01.060 a million Canadian dollars out of it?
00:09:02.480 It would be a scandal of the first order.
00:09:03.980 It is a scandal of the first order with Trudeau, but you won't read about it on the CBC or
00:09:08.800 the Globe and Mail.
00:09:09.420 How could you?
00:09:10.760 The CBC, David Suzuki is their star.
00:09:13.700 They're not going to condemn him.
00:09:15.420 Hey, I have one question for you.
00:09:19.020 If political advocates can now get charity status so they don't have to pay tax and they
00:09:24.960 can give charity receipts to anyone who gives their money.
00:09:27.220 If that's now on, should we hear the rebel create a rebel charitable foundation too so
00:09:36.820 we can issue tax receipts to you?
00:09:40.180 I mean, if that's the law now, should we do it too?
00:09:46.760 Stay with us for more.
00:09:47.800 Well, weeks after the eviction order from the city of Burnaby, months after other court orders
00:10:11.180 and restraining orders were applied years after the infamous Burnaby Mountain riots that
00:10:18.140 David Suzuki himself attended, I am pleased to report that the anti-pipeline protesters,
00:10:25.520 the professional hobos who were blocking it, while they're being extracted, finally, slow,
00:10:32.680 but finally, the rule of law has returned to the pipeline.
00:10:36.760 And joining us now to talk about this is our pipeline expert who was out there just a couple
00:10:41.220 of weeks ago, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:10:43.140 Sheila, how are you doing?
00:10:44.960 Hey, I'm great.
00:10:46.580 I'm so excited these hobos are being shoved into the garbage can. 1.00
00:10:50.180 I couldn't be more pleased.
00:10:51.440 I'm so happy.
00:10:52.900 You know what?
00:10:53.520 And we invited you to go out there when the eviction order was served on them, but we foolishly
00:11:02.720 thought that the rule of law would mean you get an eviction order.
00:11:05.880 You move out.
00:11:07.340 But as your own report had showed, the city was slow walking everything and these protesters
00:11:14.020 knew they could get away with anything because really the city of Burnaby is politically opposed
00:11:18.420 to this pipeline and they didn't even mean it when they demanded them to be cleared.
00:11:22.660 It's amazing it's finally happening at all.
00:11:25.740 You know what?
00:11:26.100 I think, though, they had to do something and they had to do something now.
00:11:31.200 The city of Burnaby is under a state of emergency with the wildfires and these hobos are up there 1.00
00:11:38.040 drunk and high burning a fire 24 hours a day in front of highly flammable diesel tanks.
00:11:46.980 And I don't know about you, but I don't trust a bunch of drunk hobos to maintain a fire and 1.00
00:11:52.240 make sure that it doesn't get away and burn down the mountain.
00:11:54.460 And I think the state of the emergency was the last straw.
00:11:59.660 You know, that's a very wise observation.
00:12:02.740 And just monitoring the persistent low-level crime, just the resources that had to be deployed
00:12:10.260 there to handhold these.
00:12:12.780 You call them hobos.
00:12:14.100 And I know it's a funny word.
00:12:15.580 We don't use the word hobo often enough these days.
00:12:17.860 But it's so darn accurate.
00:12:21.880 And we know constant assaults on police, constant, as you mentioned, drug use.
00:12:28.160 The fact that they have this illegal shanty town, obviously a fire hazard, a hazard to 1.00
00:12:32.660 pedestrians, a hazard to drivers, a hazard to themselves. 1.00
00:12:35.640 And it's super gross because there's families living not far away.
00:12:39.560 That was a luxury.
00:12:41.240 And when you're in the middle of a fire crisis, you don't have luxuries like that.
00:12:45.040 Right.
00:12:46.720 And I was reading some of the reporting this morning that was coming out from the local
00:12:52.020 reporters who were in attendance at Camp Cloud.
00:12:54.860 And I felt very vindicated in my reporting because when the police swept in there at just
00:13:01.560 after 5 a.m., they arrested about four people.
00:13:05.680 So everybody who spends the night at the camp amounts to about four people.
00:13:11.160 The camp's leadership had already long left the camp to avoid arrest.
00:13:17.940 And, you know, it's funny because you always call the people, these hobos, these homeless
00:13:22.260 people, cannon fodder.
00:13:24.960 And really, that's what they turned out to be today.
00:13:28.020 Sipporah Berman, she swept in, you know, after the police showed up so that she wouldn't be
00:13:33.340 arrested with the initial batch of homeless people.
00:13:36.900 And the camp's leader, Patricia Kelly, she was safe in her own comfortable kitchen doing
00:13:44.320 a Facebook Live this morning as all of her cannon fodder were being arrested.
00:13:49.080 You know, you say that and it's a good reminder.
00:13:51.380 I've seen this with my own eyes in Ontario against Line 9.
00:13:55.740 I spent a fair bit of time with the protesters against that pipeline in Ontario.
00:14:00.420 And my first reaction was disgust.
00:14:04.080 My second was anger.
00:14:05.840 But then my third emotion was sorrow because they truly, I mean, we're joking about the
00:14:11.000 word hobos, but many of them really are drug addicts.
00:14:14.740 Many of them are homeless.
00:14:15.780 They really are.
00:14:16.980 Many of them are emotionally disturbed in some way.
00:14:19.560 They're mentally ill. 0.68
00:14:21.680 And they're given a false sense of family.
00:14:24.240 They're given an artificial income if they are really the shock troops of the paid professional
00:14:31.660 anti-oil lobbyists.
00:14:34.480 So, you know, take Sipporah Berman, who's a six-figure international lobbyist.
00:14:40.060 She goes in.
00:14:40.960 She gets all the media. 0.97
00:14:43.300 She's the one who, Rachel Notley, incredibly appointed to be co-chair of her Oil Sands Advisory
00:14:48.340 Council, she lets the little people get the arrest, maybe even get physically roughed up 1.00
00:14:55.340 if there's an altercation.
00:14:56.340 I remember meeting someone in Ontario named Trish Mills, who was obviously arrested, development,
00:15:04.160 lots of mental issues.
00:15:05.100 She, in fact, had a blog about her own mental illness, not physically well.
00:15:09.720 She was 300 pounds. 0.98
00:15:10.860 She, her way of having a community, Sheila, was to do the craziest things so that she would 1.00
00:15:18.820 earn some respect from the rest of the protesters.
00:15:22.320 There was another girl, I won't say her name.
00:15:24.720 She earned respect from the other protesters by giving them sex. 1.00
00:15:28.540 So we're talking about mentally ill people trying to impress environmental organizers. 0.97
00:15:34.840 We're talking about a woman who obviously is so damaged that she's the, I don't even want 1.00
00:15:43.020 to say prostitute, but she gives sex to the men there. 1.00
00:15:46.000 That's her, like, these are people who are deeply damaged, and they are being used and
00:15:51.560 abused as the pawns in this larger game, and all the fancy people are not there.
00:15:57.120 That's what it says.
00:15:57.740 So I actually have some pity for the four losers who had nowhere to go, and now are going
00:16:02.680 to jail while all the organizers are back in Vancouver sucking on $8 cappuccinos.
00:16:09.220 Yeah, and I mean, you bring up the fact that these are not-well people.
00:16:14.440 Imagine being a taxpayer around the corner from this encampment when all these not-well, violent,
00:16:24.500 drug-abusing people are just infesting your neighborhood, and you're looking at the city
00:16:29.840 and the police for help.
00:16:31.080 Well, thankfully, the help finally came.
00:16:35.480 You know, it was funny.
00:16:36.620 I was also reading some other articles about how the protesters spent the week, and instead
00:16:42.860 of, you know, cleaning up or trying to comply with some of the bylaws that they're in violation
00:16:48.180 of, they spent the week practicing, tying themselves to their shanties in an attempt to make it more—an
00:16:59.960 attempt to resist arrest, basically, is what it comes down to.
00:17:03.380 That's what they did with their time.
00:17:04.700 That's what they're doing with their time, figuring out ways to break the law.
00:17:08.220 You know, it's incredible to me.
00:17:09.520 You mentioned that only four people were actually there.
00:17:11.760 That reminds me of Occupy Wall Street.
00:17:13.200 I remember way back, almost 10 years ago, when Occupy, Toronto was a big thing, and there's
00:17:18.060 this whole tent city in this downtown park.
00:17:20.740 There were like 50 tents there.
00:17:22.280 And I went there at 3 a.m. with someone from the Sun News Network, and we had an infrared
00:17:25.920 camera, a heat-seeking camera.
00:17:27.760 And we proved that every single tent was empty, except for the one tent, where you had a couple
00:17:34.220 guys smoking pot.
00:17:35.400 And you could see that tent was lit up on the infrared camera.
00:17:39.360 So we went there, and I proved it was a Potemkin village, is what they would say in Russia.
00:17:44.460 The fact that only four people, and they were paid hobos, is what's stopping this national
00:17:51.140 pipeline, is such a shame and disgrace to our nation, but the shame rests with them, but
00:18:01.660 also their manipulators.
00:18:02.860 I've always said, Sheila, Greenpeace, in my mind, meets the legal test for a criminal organization
00:18:08.500 that's in our criminal code.
00:18:10.000 It's like our version of a RICO statute.
00:18:12.500 It's an organized group of people that collude to commit a crime for profit in the name of
00:18:18.960 the organization.
00:18:20.880 And Greenpeace does that.
00:18:22.220 That's their chief way to raise funds.
00:18:25.060 Zipporah Berman was from Greenpeace.
00:18:27.340 This whole thing is an organized criminal activity.
00:18:31.860 And these four people who were arrested today, they're actually, they're like the drug mules. 0.54
00:18:37.800 They're not the real problem.
00:18:39.740 The real problem is like the drug kingpin.
00:18:43.440 You know, the, I'm just very sad to hear what you said today, actually.
00:18:48.780 It makes me sad because even though I don't know those four people, and I know they're
00:18:51.800 probably awful, and I know they were awful to you when you were out there, I know that
00:18:55.520 they too are actually victims of professional environmentalists.
00:18:59.540 Well, I think too that we're all sort of a victim of the bad reporting at Camp Cloud.
00:19:05.740 I was the only skeptical journalist who bothered to go back there after dark, after all the cameras
00:19:12.920 went home to tell the truth about what that place was like.
00:19:15.480 That it was literally only four homeless people, I said four to six homeless people, holding
00:19:21.100 up a multi-billion dollar pipeline project.
00:19:25.160 I don't think the mainstream media has been truthful and skeptical enough with the motives
00:19:31.160 and the conditions at Camp Cloud.
00:19:33.300 Yeah, you're so right.
00:19:34.600 You know, you say Camp Cloud because that's what they've nicknamed it.
00:19:36.760 But I actually sort of hate saying that word because that makes a cloud, a cloud is clean
00:19:41.640 and beautiful and fluffy.
00:19:43.620 This is like Camp, you know, Septic Tank or something.
00:19:49.060 I mean, and by the way, I'd like to encourage all our viewers to want to know the reality of
00:19:53.640 Camp Septic Tank to go to our special website we made up.
00:19:57.380 What was it?
00:19:57.800 Was it, can you tell me?
00:19:59.100 I don't want to get it wrong.
00:20:00.540 Where all your...
00:20:01.460 Rebel...
00:20:01.580 It was rebelburnaby.com.
00:20:04.660 That's right.
00:20:05.100 I thought that.
00:20:06.000 I just didn't want to say it wrong.
00:20:07.460 Rebelburnaby.com.
00:20:08.220 You did great journalism.
00:20:09.180 And the most interesting point was when a rival journalist tried to get you run out of
00:20:15.100 there because that rival journalist was actually in league with the protesters.
00:20:19.460 Last word to you, Sheila.
00:20:20.520 Do you think that they'll stay away or do you think there'll just be more lawbreakers hopped
00:20:27.180 up on drugs and foreign money?
00:20:30.100 Well, I think that there will be more lawbreakers hopped up on drugs and foreign money.
00:20:34.960 I don't think that they will be in Burnaby in that specific site anymore.
00:20:41.300 I think the proof is going to be in the pudding when that pipeline, if it ever starts construction.
00:20:48.080 I think that the initial construction sites are going to be plagued by these people.
00:20:52.960 Yeah.
00:20:53.240 Well, I'll give you my last thought, Sheila.
00:20:55.700 Sheila, we see in regulatory filings that Kinder Morgan now says construction will be
00:21:01.580 a year delayed.
00:21:03.120 I interpret that as Justin Trudeau is waiting until his 2019 election, after which he's going
00:21:09.600 to stop and nothing will happen until then.
00:21:12.300 So he'll be able to say to BC, nothing's happening.
00:21:15.340 And then the second after the election, he'll drop any pretense of building that pipeline.
00:21:19.500 I believe it will never get built as long as you have an NDP government in BC and a Trudeau
00:21:26.780 in Ottawa.
00:21:27.320 That's my view.
00:21:29.120 I agree.
00:21:31.060 Dark days.
00:21:32.040 Thankfully, Donald Trump is resurrecting the Keystone XL.
00:21:35.380 Sheila, thanks for following this file and doing real journalism on it when no one else would.
00:21:39.860 Great.
00:21:40.240 Thanks, boss.
00:21:40.720 All right.
00:21:41.400 There you have it, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:21:43.060 May I recommend her videos at rebelburnaby.com?
00:21:48.280 And if you want to chip in, you know, we flew Sheila out there and a cameraman, and so we
00:21:52.660 spent a few thousand bucks getting her out there.
00:21:54.680 Obviously, we don't have the resources of a CBC, so if you want to help chip in for our
00:21:58.540 airfare, and I think we put them up in hotels for a couple nights too, please do.
00:22:02.440 You can do that at rebelburnaby.com.
00:22:03.880 Stay with us.
00:22:04.380 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:22:10.720 Welcome back.
00:22:17.720 I want to show you a trailer for a powerful new movie.
00:22:21.060 Take a look.
00:22:22.100 All right, listen up.
00:22:23.000 We are looking for anything that looks like drugs or paraphernalia.
00:22:26.820 Philadelphia Police Department, we have a search warrant.
00:22:29.640 What is that smell?
00:22:33.220 I mean, you got to see this.
00:22:35.100 Is this normal?
00:22:36.900 I don't know.
00:22:37.420 I've never been in an abortion clinic before.
00:22:40.720 You are not going to believe what I saw last night.
00:22:43.780 How many?
00:22:45.000 So far, we've found over 30 of them.
00:22:48.880 A healthy woman goes into a clinic, comes out dead, and there's no police report? 0.98
00:22:52.800 Files have been moved recently.
00:22:54.060 Look at this.
00:22:58.900 You'll be the prosecutor who went after reproductive rights, and you'll be a racist to boot. 1.00
00:23:04.100 You've got a lot of folk who'd like to see abortion outlawed, and this is not going to be the case that gives them an excuse.
00:23:12.380 Prosecution has offered you a plea bargain, Dr. Gosnell.
00:23:15.580 And I would have to admit I was guilty.
00:23:17.800 I'm not guilty.
00:23:18.620 When you get to the courthouse, you are going to be swarmed by reporters.
00:23:26.880 Are you ready for this, Counselor?
00:23:31.120 Where is everybody?
00:23:34.180 When was the last time your division inspected Dr. Gosnell's clinic?
00:23:37.220 We had instructions directly from Governor Ridge's office not to inspect.
00:23:41.180 I wouldn't testify in that case about anything.
00:23:42.860 You don't have to find a doctor who will.
00:23:45.340 And you look at the facts, you will see what I see.
00:23:48.160 An overly zealous Catholic investigator.
00:23:50.900 Is that what you want to make this about?
00:23:53.300 There's nothing that man did that protects women or children, and you don't have to be a pro-life activist to see that.
00:24:01.820 Kermit Gosnell is perhaps the most prolific serial killer in American history.
00:24:06.320 You better win.
00:24:15.480 Absolutely chilling.
00:24:17.180 Chilling.
00:24:17.440 And as you know, it's a film rooted in the facts.
00:24:22.060 Joining us now is Phelan McAleer, the filmmaker behind the project.
00:24:25.820 Phelan, congratulations.
00:24:27.160 I know you and I have talked about this before.
00:24:29.440 It's very exciting to see it come to fruition and to have an actual release date.
00:24:33.820 Congratulations to you.
00:24:35.500 Well, thank you.
00:24:36.040 Thank you.
00:24:36.440 It's been a long, a long path.
00:24:39.980 The mainstream media and the mainstream culture in Hollywood, they didn't want this out there.
00:24:44.940 They never wanted this story told.
00:24:46.360 They didn't want it told in the newspapers, online.
00:24:49.520 And they certainly didn't want a movie made out of it.
00:24:51.980 So it was very nice that we were able to do it.
00:24:54.100 And, you know, we crowdfunded and many of your viewers, many of your viewers gave small donations to make this happen.
00:25:02.260 And, you know, we can see that we saw donations coming in.
00:25:06.160 And so I want to thank those people.
00:25:07.980 You made it happen.
00:25:08.880 Well, Phelan, you're very generous to remember that.
00:25:13.720 I recall talking to our people about it.
00:25:16.000 In fact, we learned so much from you about crowdfunding.
00:25:19.160 It's really the lessons we learned watching you have helped build the rebels.
00:25:22.800 So it's we thank you also.
00:25:25.020 Now, the movie itself, some very famous names in there.
00:25:28.700 I'm sure a lot of our viewers will recognize Dean Cain.
00:25:31.720 I remember him from the old Superman show that he was in.
00:25:35.540 And some other names there, less familiar, the star or the anti-star of the movie, Dr. Gosnell himself, is played by Earl Billings.
00:25:46.800 Very, very compelling, at least in this trailer.
00:25:50.040 You had some other star talent there, too.
00:25:51.700 Nick Searcy, Andrew Klavan is the writer.
00:25:54.580 How did you pull them all together?
00:25:56.600 How did you get a team like that?
00:25:59.920 You know, you start off with a great story.
00:26:02.500 Then you start off with a great script.
00:26:04.080 Then you start off with a great director who convinces the actors that this is going to be a great movie.
00:26:11.140 It's a lot of hard work.
00:26:14.220 You know, and I think there's a sense that we were doing something unique here, doing something that wasn't done before, doing something exciting.
00:26:23.860 People like these true stories to actors.
00:26:26.640 You know, they love this true story.
00:26:28.280 They love real characters.
00:26:29.840 They love taking real characters and working with them.
00:26:32.100 You know, you couldn't get much more dramatic than this.
00:26:35.180 This is America's biggest serial killer.
00:26:36.960 This is a story that was covered up by politicians for 20 years.
00:26:41.060 Then the media covered it up.
00:26:42.760 But it was brought down by social media.
00:26:44.920 It was a social media firestorm that brought the Kermit Gosnell story to force the mainstream media, shame the mainstream media into covering it.
00:26:54.100 So, we need people to come out on October 12th when it comes out.
00:26:59.140 One thing I want to say to people is, you know, it's about a very tough subject, but we have deliberately not made it tough.
00:27:06.240 It's PG-13, which in America means a 13-year-old can go and see it.
00:27:11.480 You know, so it's palatable.
00:27:13.280 It's about the trial and investigation.
00:27:14.820 We leave a lot to the imagination.
00:27:17.440 We don't spell it out.
00:27:18.960 So, you know, let's make it a success.
00:27:23.380 Let's have a cover-up stop here.
00:27:25.320 And, you know, your viewers were so good at the beginning.
00:27:28.840 Let's get everyone out to see it now.
00:27:30.860 Well, I'm very glad you said that because, of course, there is that scene where Dean Cain says, what's that smell?
00:27:37.020 What's going on?
00:27:37.640 I've never been in an abortion clinic before.
00:27:39.040 It sounds terrifying, but it sounds like it's a film that people could take teenagers to without worried about them being too disturbed by at least the graphic.
00:27:47.620 I mean, the ideas are disturbing.
00:27:50.260 There's nothing graphic in it at all.
00:27:53.940 Zero.
00:27:54.600 It's PG-13.
00:27:55.340 And, in fact, we have shown it to groups of people, and they said, I have to take my teenage children to see this.
00:28:02.460 It's one of those movies.
00:28:04.040 You know, there were some interesting things in the trailer there about all the pressure on the police and the prosecution not to proceed.
00:28:11.340 There's political pressure because to put abortion in a bad light is incorrect.
00:28:16.440 Kermit Gosnell, I shouldn't even call him doctor.
00:28:18.880 I called him doctor there before.
00:28:20.040 He does not deserve that title.
00:28:21.160 He was black, and the majority of the women who came to his abortion clinic were black.
00:28:27.280 So I can imagine, ideologically, racially, there's a religious aspect.
00:28:32.420 Is this just a religious process?
00:28:34.240 All those pressures against the prosecution, I can imagine you had all those same pressures against you as a filmmaker.
00:28:41.480 Yeah, I mean, Hollywood didn't want this made.
00:28:43.760 Remember, we wanted to raise the money through Kickstarter, and Kickstarter threw us off because we couldn't say murdered babies, even though he was convicted of murdering babies.
00:28:53.460 Right.
00:28:53.880 Because in Kickstarter's wonderful phrase, it would offend their community values.
00:28:58.720 Remember that one?
00:28:59.520 Yeah.
00:28:59.640 And I wrote back because I don't want to be part of any community that likes to lie, you know.
00:29:05.760 So from the very beginning, the establishment was against this.
00:29:10.600 And, you know, people now need to turn out on October 12th and show the establishment that they can't get away with this.
00:29:17.360 Now, you're based in California.
00:29:19.300 Obviously, this movie is American in nature, although the lessons are global.
00:29:24.720 It happened in Pennsylvania.
00:29:28.080 A lot of our viewers, Phelan, are Canadian, and they'll want to see this, too.
00:29:33.160 I know it's coming out in America on October 12th.
00:29:35.620 Do you have any plans for Canada yet?
00:29:38.560 I know that you're focused on the big, important market.
00:29:41.740 But let me just say that if there's any way we can help by hosting a film or anything, we're interested in it.
00:29:49.760 Can you keep us posted as you get Canadian release news?
00:29:53.520 Yeah, no, totally, totally.
00:29:55.680 It's one of our priorities is to get Canadians to see it because it's a big, it's a story there.
00:30:00.960 And, you know, a disproportionate amount of the fundraising came from Canada.
00:30:04.600 Oh, I didn't know that.
00:30:05.700 Well, that's very encouraging.
00:30:07.300 Those may well have been our people because I know you and I talked about this before.
00:30:10.600 Now, before we turn the cameras on, you suggested that there's a chance that this film might find an online distributor like maybe a Netflix.
00:30:19.500 Is that a possibility?
00:30:21.120 It's going to totally be on Netflix.
00:30:23.500 100%.
00:30:23.820 Well, you never know what the way it is now, but we have a path to Netflix.
00:30:30.300 It was very important to us that the distribution deal included that path so that everyone could then see it.
00:30:35.400 So people are going to get to see it.
00:30:37.280 And the funny thing is, it's going to be in the serial killer category of Netflix or the crime category.
00:30:43.220 Wow.
00:30:43.360 And people are going to just watch it casually and they're going to learn a lot and they're going to be entertained.
00:30:47.380 And it's going to provoke some very interesting reactions because the truth always does.
00:30:52.420 You know, that's so important because if this were to go in, like, this is a factual story that's actually happened.
00:30:59.140 And, in fact, Hannah, can we put up an image here?
00:31:01.180 There's an image of those empty court benches.
00:31:05.760 You showed them in the film, but this is an actual photograph here.
00:31:11.180 We're showing on the screen right now, Phelan, taken in the actual court back in 2013.
00:31:18.400 Let me just read it.
00:31:19.640 Reserved media seats Thursday morning in courtroom 304 in Philadelphia where Gosnell is on trial.
00:31:25.580 And they are empty except one person.
00:31:30.340 So that scene in your dramatization is exactly the way it was.
00:31:36.700 But your movie, if it came across as, you know, eat your spinach, this is a documentary, I don't think people would watch it.
00:31:43.480 You put it in the serial killer category, I think people will watch it.
00:31:49.140 Yeah, well, that's what it was.
00:31:50.680 It's a crime story.
00:31:51.540 You know, this is a mass crime.
00:31:53.940 This is a crime, very interesting, that was covered up by the political establishment, covered up by the media.
00:32:00.760 Maybe Mark Ruffalo would like to come to the premiere, you know, and all those other Hollywood types that love to do movies about media cover-ups and big cover-ups, you know.
00:32:11.780 But they don't seem to be that interested in this one.
00:32:14.160 So we did it ourselves.
00:32:15.980 As you can see from the trailer, it's a real Hollywood movie.
00:32:18.780 We wanted it to look like a movie.
00:32:20.820 That was very important, that this didn't come across as preachy or didactic or boring or worthy.
00:32:28.400 That it was a drama.
00:32:29.500 And, you know, the story just oozes drama.
00:32:31.340 So that wasn't very difficult.
00:32:33.020 Are you going to have a premiere-style event in Hollywood?
00:32:36.560 Are you going to have a public event?
00:32:39.320 Of course.
00:32:40.380 Of course.
00:32:41.340 Yeah.
00:32:41.800 My God, you think I'd waste an opportunity to rub Hollywood's noses in this?
00:32:46.100 Well, it's not just Hollywood.
00:32:48.120 It's the news media, too.
00:32:49.640 Well, we've got some talent down in Hollywood these days.
00:32:52.160 We have Amanda Head. 1.00
00:32:53.540 Her nickname is the Hollywood Conservative. 0.97
00:32:55.420 And we have some other voices.
00:32:56.460 Maybe we could send a camera crew to your red carpet. 0.90
00:32:59.120 Will you have a red carpet?
00:33:01.220 Of course we'll have a red carpet.
00:33:02.600 October the 9th in Hollywood.
00:33:04.240 That's what the premiere is going to be.
00:33:05.480 Okay, so October the 9th is the premiere in Hollywood.
00:33:08.320 And October the 12th is the general release.
00:33:10.520 And you can let us know if there's a Canadian option.
00:33:13.380 And if there is, we'll sure let our people know.
00:33:16.080 Obviously, everyone's got Netflix.
00:33:17.820 But I think it would be fun to have a Canadian event.
00:33:20.560 What's the website for people to go to?
00:33:22.220 Is that just Gosnell Movie?
00:33:24.280 Yeah, GosnellMovie.com.
00:33:25.740 We're going to put the list of the cities up very shortly.
00:33:28.620 And that should be, you know, that'll help people plan their outing.
00:33:32.740 And we need people to go, bring 10 people, really pack out the opening weekend.
00:33:36.920 I'm not sure people understand.
00:33:38.260 The opening weekend is the one that ensures this movie will expand and keep growing.
00:33:44.220 You know, if it's not a big weekend at the opening, then Hollywood closes it down and says,
00:33:49.500 oh, we need that for the latest Marvel superhero movie or whatever, leave that theater. 0.93
00:33:54.220 So we need to show there's an appetite for this.
00:33:57.500 So the way you do that is you have the big first weekend.
00:33:59.820 You know, you're so right.
00:34:00.940 I mean, that's the big push for every movie, that opening weekend, because then that determines
00:34:06.200 how much Hollywood's going to get behind it. 0.99
00:34:08.000 Well, not Hollywood, at least the movie theater.
00:34:09.640 So we'll do our best to let our folks know.
00:34:13.680 Well, listen, congratulations.
00:34:15.920 It's so satisfying to see this project come to a successful conclusion.
00:34:21.480 I remember when you first contacted me.
00:34:23.320 I think I was back at Sun News Network, if I recall, when I first got the phone call from you.
00:34:27.620 So it's really nice to see this come to fruition.
00:34:29.620 And you're very nice to mention our Canadian supporters, because our people like to crowdfund projects they believe in.
00:34:36.040 And thank you for mentioning that.
00:34:37.760 We'll support you every step of the way, Felham, on this project and all your others.
00:34:41.560 Great. Thank you.
00:34:42.400 Thank you, Ezra.
00:34:42.920 So, yeah, it was a long time ago, but your people came on board.
00:34:47.140 Now we need them for this final push.
00:34:48.800 All right.
00:34:49.220 Well, we'll be there for sure.
00:34:51.080 Congratulations again and all the best to the team and the crew who worked so hard.
00:34:54.620 That's great.
00:34:55.540 All right, everybody, you heard the news.
00:34:56.880 October 12th is when the movie rolls out in the United States.
00:35:01.780 Felham will keep us posted on Canadian Opportunities.
00:35:04.160 We'd love to be involved.
00:35:05.340 And even if it's not in theaters, you'll be able to watch it on Netflix.
00:35:09.100 Stay with us.
00:35:10.580 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:35:11.600 Hey, welcome back.
00:35:24.300 On my monologue yesterday about Trudeau creating a new holiday that focuses on the history of residential schools
00:35:29.240 and shames Canadians as racist, Tammy writes,
00:35:33.180 Celebrating Aboriginal achievements would be a more honest holiday.
00:35:36.160 I will not accept the narrative that it is up to me to jump into self-loathing and repentance.
00:35:40.280 Since I recognize the harms residential schools created for a large swath of Aboriginal families, 0.98
00:35:45.080 and if the government is serious about addressing the wrongs of the past, then repeal the Indian Act.
00:35:48.940 That is exactly my point, Tammy.
00:35:51.840 This whole thing is a placebo.
00:35:53.940 It's a distraction.
00:35:55.520 It's a bait and switch.
00:35:56.680 We actually do have racism against Aboriginal people in Canada.
00:35:59.720 I've gone through the Indian Act in great detail.
00:36:01.460 Maybe I should do that again, a refresher of all the ways it is racially discriminatory.
00:36:05.720 I'll just give you my one most shocking example.
00:36:08.240 If you're an Indian on an Indian reserve, you cannot do a last will and testament the same way regular Canadians are that aren't under a racist law.
00:36:16.220 No Indian living on a reserve has the right to make their own will. 1.00
00:36:18.920 It must be approved by the band or they get to decide.
00:36:23.880 And the condescension in that law is, oh, an Indian can't be trusted to make his own will. 1.00
00:36:29.120 That's the racism of the law.
00:36:32.020 That's the underlying racist purpose of the law.
00:36:34.140 That's called the Indian Act.
00:36:35.480 That is on the books today.
00:36:36.600 Don't create a new holiday about grievance and hucksterism.
00:36:39.820 How about deal with the racism on the books today?
00:36:43.400 Ron writes,
00:36:43.900 The last federally operated residential school closed in 1996.
00:36:47.700 Pierre Trudeau was prime minister from 1968 to 1979.
00:36:50.920 Who paid for that park in Winnipeg dedicated to the founder of Pakistan?
00:36:54.940 Yeah, there's a lot of questions there.
00:36:56.560 And, you know, I should say that Pierre Trudeau himself, Justin Trudeau's father, said it wasn't the role of government to repent for or apologize for the past.
00:37:05.460 I don't have the exact quote memorized, but Pierre Trudeau was more sensible in some ways than his son.
00:37:11.960 Bruce writes,
00:37:12.460 I went to a residential school of a different type.
00:37:15.740 The government experts figured blind kids could only be educated by specialists.
00:37:19.720 We were sent to distant residential schools to be with our own kind.
00:37:22.980 I don't feel that the entire nation should be shamed for that.
00:37:25.440 Bruce, that is very interesting.
00:37:28.400 I had not heard of that before, but I take your word for it.
00:37:32.100 Listen, there are things that have been done in Alberta.
00:37:34.720 I don't know if you remember or know this.
00:37:37.300 Even most Albertans probably don't know.
00:37:39.760 There was an official policy of eugenics.
00:37:44.500 Sterilization, forced sterilization of people who were deemed to be defective.
00:37:49.440 Can you believe that?
00:37:52.280 And then there was later some, there was in the 30s and 40s.
00:37:56.620 There's part of the whole Socrate. 0.99
00:37:58.000 Tommy Douglas, by the way, his master's thesis was on how we need to sterilize poor people, dumb people and other defectives. 0.98
00:38:04.700 Look it up.
00:38:05.180 So, yeah, there was a lot of things that, at the time, were supposedly very progressive.
00:38:12.940 But now, with the passage of time we see weren't, should we have a national day about that?
00:38:19.440 Or should we just fix the problem where we can, learn from it, and try and focus on being our best?
00:38:24.700 I really like what Andrew Klavan said yesterday.
00:38:27.020 We celebrate the best things in life because we want that to be who we are.
00:38:32.400 We want to do more of that.
00:38:33.520 We don't obsess over the worst things in life because we don't want to emphasize that.
00:38:39.440 On my interview with Sue Ann Levy about the Antifa assault on a Toronto Sun photographer, Jerry writes,
00:38:44.940 Why are you not calling this a robbery, theft with violence, if police won't lay the charge and have the photographer lay a private charge?
00:38:51.480 The police charge all sorts of people who steal hats.
00:38:55.500 That's a good point.
00:38:56.360 I didn't think of it that way.
00:38:58.800 I assume he didn't get his hat back.
00:39:01.960 That's absolutely robbery.
00:39:04.380 The fact that it, you know, is a $20 hat and not a $20,000 car is irrelevant.
00:39:10.140 And the fact that it was done in violence is shocking.
00:39:13.300 Hey, do you remember in Toronto a few years back there was a cop?
00:39:16.640 He got the nickname Officer Bubbles because someone was blowing bubbles at him.
00:39:20.400 And he sort of growled and said, if one of those bubbles touches me, I'm going to sue you for assault. 1.00
00:39:25.040 And it became a whole thing.
00:39:26.340 I don't know if you remember that.
00:39:27.800 So police can be very, very active when they want to be.
00:39:30.620 But they thought it was just fine to let a Sun photographer get hammered and his hat stolen because, you know, it's just the Toronto Sun.
00:39:38.680 The irony is, as Sue Ann said, the Toronto Sun is the most pro-police newspaper in Toronto.
00:39:45.800 Well, that's our show for today.
00:39:47.280 What do you think about the idea of setting up a rebel charity?
00:39:49.920 I do not believe we're a charity, by the way.
00:39:52.000 I think what we do is political.
00:39:54.100 I enjoy it.
00:39:55.080 I hope you get satisfaction from it.
00:39:56.920 But I would never put us on par with feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, teaching people, you know, hospitals.
00:40:05.180 I would never pretend that we are of that moral caliber.
00:40:08.740 Now, we do help some charities, as you know.
00:40:11.140 And we do some things that I think would meet the test of charitable work.
00:40:14.200 Remember when we raised more than $200,000 for those kids whose dad, Christopher Speer, was murdered by Omar Khadr.
00:40:22.020 I mean, that felt charitable, you know what I mean?
00:40:25.080 I guess we raised money for Jordan Peterson's scholarship and his grad students.
00:40:30.920 I don't know if you remember that.
00:40:31.960 That, I guess, meets the test of charity when you donate money to, like, a university.
00:40:36.880 So we do some charitable things here.
00:40:38.480 But generally, you know, when I rant about politics, that's not charity.
00:40:42.100 It's just not.
00:40:43.180 I mean, I like it.
00:40:44.260 But don't lie.
00:40:45.240 That's not charity.
00:40:46.400 Justin Trudeau says it's charity because he's trying to bail out his friends.
00:40:50.420 He's trying to bail out Gerald Butts' friends.
00:40:52.120 And so if they can be charities, I mean, why would we be the only idiots not getting charitable status?
00:40:57.320 And why don't we get charitable status so we can issue charitable tax receipts?
00:41:00.060 I'd like your views on that.
00:41:01.140 Send me an email, ezra at therebel.media.
00:41:03.540 If that's the new law, would we be foolish not to avail ourselves of it?
00:41:08.240 That's our show.
00:41:09.380 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.
00:41:12.880 And keep fighting for freedom.