Rebel News Podcast - August 18, 2018


CBC bias hits new low in report on Maxime Bernier — so he calls them #FakeNews. He's right.


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A telling example of extreme bias at the CBC, Ezra Levant argues. Ezra Levant is a Canadian journalist and host of the Ezra Levant on the Levant Show on CBC Radio One in Toronto. He's also a regular contributor to the National Post and the Globe and Mail.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, a telling example of extreme bias at the CBC.
00:00:04.300 It's August 17th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:12.880 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:16.680 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:20.400 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:23.720 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:00:27.360 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:30.000 Earlier this week, I took you through Maxime Bernier's tweets
00:00:37.300 about the cult of diversity pushed by Justin Trudeau.
00:00:41.060 Bernier took a pretty nuanced approach.
00:00:42.860 I think 80%, 90% of Canadians would agree with him.
00:00:46.920 Bernier said he's fine with people of different skin color
00:00:49.820 or different religions or different sexual orientations.
00:00:53.020 He just said we need to come together as Canadians.
00:00:56.020 There's been a core set of values.
00:00:58.660 And diversity, for its own sake, forces people into silos, into ghettos, he said.
00:01:04.720 You know, I think that's true.
00:01:05.920 I don't even really think that's even a matter of opinion.
00:01:08.840 It's almost a tautology, as they say in math or logic.
00:01:12.740 If you emphasize what makes people different,
00:01:15.660 you will emphasize our differences.
00:01:17.600 That's sort of a truism.
00:01:19.300 He's for unity, not diversity.
00:01:22.600 He's for unity from diversity.
00:01:24.340 I liked the tweets, and a lot of other people did too.
00:01:27.720 I'll wait to see an official opinion poll on the subject.
00:01:30.260 I bet there's one or two in the field right now.
00:01:33.460 But we know already, for example, that two years ago,
00:01:36.320 a government poll commissioned by the Trudeau Liberals,
00:01:38.200 only 8% of Canadians said they wanted more immigration.
00:01:41.940 And yet that's exactly what Trudeau did.
00:01:45.440 Trudeau was watering down the citizenship guide for new Canadians.
00:01:49.180 He's shortening the time you need to be in Canada
00:01:51.660 before you can become a citizen.
00:01:53.560 He's devaluing citizenship by letting convicted terrorists 0.99
00:01:57.780 with dual citizenship retain their Canadian citizenship.
00:02:02.220 He's emphasizing a history of shame and scolding.
00:02:05.660 He ripped John A. MacDonald from our $10 bill, for example.
00:02:08.720 So yeah, I think that Bernier speaks for a lot of people.
00:02:12.640 I'm not going to say he speaks for 92% of people,
00:02:15.160 but the Liberal Opinion poll would suggest that 92% of people
00:02:19.000 support at least part of what Bernier is saying.
00:02:22.440 I know that Bernier's comments were framed
00:02:24.080 on criticisms of Justin Trudeau.
00:02:27.060 Remember that?
00:02:27.820 You'll recall from our show earlier this week,
00:02:29.720 it was based on a vacuous comment by Trudeau.
00:02:32.820 You can see it at the bottom there,
00:02:35.420 where he was at Danforth, where the mass shooting was,
00:02:38.200 and Trudeau was telling people that diversity is the solution.
00:02:44.520 Yeah, I don't think that's the right message
00:02:46.380 in the right place, especially when a Pakistani-Canadian 0.99
00:02:49.220 whose family was allowed to stay here,
00:02:51.100 even though they were implicated in drug crimes and gun crimes,
00:02:54.220 and even though police say this shooter,
00:02:56.360 Faisal Hussain, visited Pakistan and Afghanistan,
00:02:59.000 even though ISIS claimed responsibility,
00:03:01.100 I don't think more diversity is the right lesson 1.00
00:03:04.340 to learn from the Danforth terrorist shooting,
00:03:06.680 but that's what Trudeau said it was.
00:03:08.720 I think it's a bit tired, and people are wising up to it,
00:03:12.440 including more and more new immigrants themselves,
00:03:14.520 who come here lawfully and follow the rules,
00:03:16.820 as opposed to Trudeau's own open borders policy,
00:03:19.820 where we take any illegal immigrant,
00:03:21.700 any criminal who simply walks up from the U.S.
00:03:24.140 before Trump can deport them.
00:03:25.760 So yeah, Bernier is right.
00:03:28.660 He's saying something most Canadians support.
00:03:31.140 He was actually pretty moderate,
00:03:32.720 giving a shout-out to diversity himself.
00:03:34.480 He wasn't poking at Andrew Scheer at all.
00:03:36.120 He wasn't mentioning Scheer.
00:03:37.340 He was poking at Justin Trudeau.
00:03:38.520 I liked it.
00:03:39.700 Showed a bit of pep and a bit of courage.
00:03:41.920 And it was interesting to watch the CBC and the Liberals respond.
00:03:45.080 The Liberals were actually, in my view, fairly restrained.
00:03:48.160 They got that Adam Vaughn, an MP from Toronto,
00:03:52.240 to come on the National to badmouth Bernier as a racist.
00:03:56.360 But, you know, it's not hard to get Vaughn to say anything.
00:03:59.460 He will literally say anything or do anything to get media attention.
00:04:04.060 Just yesterday, he was actually tweeting
00:04:05.780 that Toronto should consider separating from Ontario.
00:04:10.980 I mean, the guy's a goldmine for journalists,
00:04:14.540 but not because of his good judgment.
00:04:16.420 It's just because he'll say anything.
00:04:18.160 I thought that Justin Trudeau's response to Maxime Bernier
00:04:21.880 was fairly restrained.
00:04:23.880 Because Trudeau knows that he has a lot of weakness here
00:04:26.340 on terrorism, on open borders,
00:04:28.160 and especially where Maxime Bernier is strongest, in Quebec.
00:04:31.680 Remember, it's the Liberal Premier of Quebec
00:04:33.200 who is bringing in a burka band.
00:04:34.720 The Liberal Premier.
00:04:36.000 It's the Liberal Premier of Quebec
00:04:37.220 who is bussing Trudeau's migrants out of the province,
00:04:40.460 into Toronto, where they'll take anything.
00:04:43.480 Quebec has had it up to here
00:04:44.980 with Trudeau's diversity baloney.
00:04:46.720 So Trudeau was fairly mild in his reply to Bernier.
00:04:50.240 And Andrew Scheer, too.
00:04:51.040 Remember the Conservatives just won a surprising by-election victory
00:04:54.080 in Quebec a few weeks back?
00:04:55.540 Remember when Eric Duane came on our show,
00:04:57.420 Eric Duane, and told us about what happened there?
00:05:00.640 It was very interesting.
00:05:01.880 One of the key issues that helped the Conservatives win that riding
00:05:06.200 was illegal immigration.
00:05:09.060 Another way of saying extreme multiculturalism 0.90
00:05:11.140 or too much diversity, I guess.
00:05:12.280 Here's Andrew Scheer campaigning in Quebec for the by-election
00:05:16.580 by going down to that unguarded border crossing
00:05:19.940 and shooting videos there.
00:05:21.060 He knows why he won in Quebec.
00:05:23.600 It wasn't his scintillating personality
00:05:25.320 or his raw charisma
00:05:26.960 or his beautiful command of the French language.
00:05:30.800 It's because Quebecers are sick of Trudeau's diversity 0.97
00:05:33.420 is our strength, vacuousness.
00:05:35.220 But more to the point,
00:05:36.160 they're sick of what it actually means in real life.
00:05:38.060 So Trudeau's reaction to Bernier was fairly mild, I think.
00:05:42.340 And Andrew Scheer was fairly mild, too.
00:05:44.880 His statement, I read it the other day,
00:05:46.380 it didn't even go after Bernier by name,
00:05:47.820 didn't discipline him in any way,
00:05:49.360 just restated his own support for diversity,
00:05:51.840 whatever that means.
00:05:52.500 Frankly, it was a statement that I think Bernier himself
00:05:54.440 could probably have signed.
00:05:56.980 So naturally, the attacks on Bernier were left to the CBC itself,
00:06:00.860 Canada's state broadcaster.
00:06:02.600 They have done story after story on the evil Bernier.
00:06:06.140 Bernier first trying to exacerbate the rift
00:06:09.360 between Bernier and Scheer.
00:06:10.540 Now, I get it.
00:06:11.720 Look, there's obviously a tension there.
00:06:14.380 There's tension between the two men.
00:06:15.740 There has been since the day of the leadership vote.
00:06:19.640 There has, you know,
00:06:21.420 Andrew Scheer has insisted on the dairy cartel
00:06:24.400 and policies like that.
00:06:27.220 Bernier was kicked out for calling for an end
00:06:29.720 to protectionism for Quebec farmers.
00:06:31.640 So yeah, there is tension.
00:06:33.440 Fair enough.
00:06:34.020 The CBC went at it, well, like the liberals they are.
00:06:37.380 I haven't seen them do the same thing to Trudeau, though,
00:06:39.820 about, you know, going to every single liberal cabinet minister,
00:06:43.980 every single liberal MP,
00:06:45.520 and asking them what they think about Trudeau
00:06:47.680 groping the tush of a female reporter in BC.
00:06:49.720 I haven't seen the CBC going to every single liberal MP
00:06:53.340 and asking them what they think should happen to Ikra Khalid,
00:06:57.440 the Muslim extremist MP who was caught giving a high honor to an anti-Semite,
00:07:00.800 not once but twice.
00:07:02.720 And wouldn't you know it, there he is with Trudeau, too.
00:07:05.560 Khalid apologized yesterday.
00:07:06.740 We'll talk more about this today with Anthony Fury.
00:07:09.020 It was an accident, she said, an accident both times, she said.
00:07:11.600 That's good enough for the CBC.
00:07:13.920 No need to flog a dead horse.
00:07:15.380 But let me show you the lowest part here.
00:07:18.240 This shows you the deep corruption of journalism at the state broadcaster.
00:07:21.640 After going on about Bernier, look at what the CBC said.
00:07:26.220 Also significant is the timing.
00:07:30.380 Bernier chose to send his messages on the first anniversary of the riots in Charlottesville, Virginia,
00:07:35.820 a milestone for people who believe whites are under some kind of cultural attack.
00:07:41.120 We did reach out to Maxime Bernier today to see if he'd talk, Rosie, but he didn't respond.
00:07:46.200 What?
00:07:48.800 Nothing in Bernier's tweets talked about the United States or about race,
00:07:53.940 other than to positively say he supports all races and ethnicities.
00:07:58.200 Why on earth did the CBC say that Bernier chose to make his comments on the anniversary of a U.S. racist march?
00:08:08.400 Bernier has made similar comments before and after that arbitrary date, too.
00:08:13.740 But the CBC, in true state broadcaster propaganda fashion, true Pravda style,
00:08:19.420 they said that Bernier chose that anniversary.
00:08:25.140 Now, they immediately admitted that they hadn't spoke to him, as you saw.
00:08:29.840 But so what?
00:08:30.540 They just made it up and they showed that racist riot video.
00:08:34.520 Just in case you were too thick to understand their insinuations the whole time.
00:08:39.760 Bernier is a racist, you guys.
00:08:41.740 I wonder who he's trying to talk to.
00:08:43.800 Let's play some racist riot footage.
00:08:45.700 Yeah, maybe it's that.
00:08:47.280 They're sick of the CBC.
00:08:48.980 They're sick.
00:08:49.960 They're fake news, aren't they?
00:08:51.540 Well, we're talking about tweets.
00:08:53.940 Let me end with three tweets.
00:08:55.680 Here's Bernier replying to that fake news smear.
00:08:58.600 He wrote,
00:08:58.860 Just saw this report, which implies a timing between my tweets last Sunday and some violent demonstration in the U.S.
00:09:05.820 How do you know that I chose to send my messages on the first anniversary of the riots in Charlottesville?
00:09:11.400 This is despicable fake news.
00:09:13.660 It is despicable.
00:09:16.100 It is fake news.
00:09:17.620 But then again, when Rosemary Barton is such a fangirl of Justin Trudeau that she literally takes selfies with him and puts those selfies in, I don't know, in her scrapbook or in her hope chest under her bed.
00:09:32.240 I don't know.
00:09:32.700 Maybe she puts that picture up in her locker in high school.
00:09:36.300 He's so dreamy.
00:09:37.860 What do you expect from a journalist like that?
00:09:40.900 That's super gross.
00:09:41.920 Well, she replied to Bernier, and it's amazing.
00:09:45.160 She wrote this.
00:09:47.300 How do we, she misses a word, know, how do we know you didn't time to coincide with that anniversary, given you won't give any interviews to anyone about anything you tweet?
00:09:58.300 How about you answer some questions and defend your position in front of people that we can talk about what is fake?
00:10:03.800 Thanks for watching Real News.
00:10:05.180 How do we know you didn't do it to coincide with some U.S. neo-Nazis?
00:10:12.420 How do we know that you didn't?
00:10:15.200 We couldn't ask you, so we just invented the answer.
00:10:17.680 How do we know?
00:10:18.480 Did you stop beating your wife yet? 0.97
00:10:20.080 You didn't say no, so we assumed you had.
00:10:23.060 Unbelievable.
00:10:23.600 Here, last word to Bernier.
00:10:24.820 He said, whether or not I give interviews, your job is to report facts, not unfounded and calumnious speculation.
00:10:34.900 You admit you have no idea if there was a connection.
00:10:37.660 I tweet almost every day and was not even aware of this event in the U.S.
00:10:41.360 You were biased and unprofessional.
00:10:43.560 Absolutely true, and I love that Bernier is calling out the CBC as fake news, because we all know they are fake news.
00:10:50.880 And Barton more or less admitted it in this exchange, too.
00:10:53.700 Now, you might not agree with Bernier's tweets.
00:10:55.600 I'm guessing you probably do, but you might not.
00:10:57.680 And you might not like him quarreling indirectly, maybe, if that's what he's doing, with the duly elected leader of the Conservative Party.
00:11:04.720 Or you might recognize that he isn't quarreling with Scheer.
00:11:08.480 He's quarreling with Trudeau and with the CBC and with Ikra Khali, which is a good thing. 1.00
00:11:12.380 But you must concede that it is nice to see a Conservative who finally doesn't cower in the face of the media for once,
00:11:20.860 who speaks clearly, not in a fog.
00:11:24.780 Yesterday, Andrew Scheer was still talking about this.
00:11:27.560 He took questions on this.
00:11:28.780 I watched this scrum you see here on the screen, 11 minutes.
00:11:34.040 It felt like an hour.
00:11:36.280 That's problem number one here.
00:11:37.360 It should have been a 90-second comment that Scheer chose, not that the journalist chose.
00:11:43.040 Scheer's poor Stafford.
00:11:44.480 You see that?
00:11:45.000 It was that guy right there to the right of him with the glasses.
00:11:48.120 On at least two or three occasions, he said,
00:11:50.900 last question, trying to extricate his boss.
00:11:54.160 But Andrew Scheer kept going.
00:11:55.860 He loved the punishment.
00:11:56.700 In that scrum, Andrew Scheer allowed himself to be talked over again and again by some reporter,
00:12:03.280 to be interrupted relentlessly, to be asked the same questions again and again in a condescending tone.
00:12:09.460 And the whole time, he just took it with that rictus grin on his face.
00:12:13.300 I want you to watch a little bit of it.
00:12:14.800 This is almost chosen at random.
00:12:16.720 Maybe even just forget the substance of what he's saying here.
00:12:18.920 Just ask yourself, where's the royal jelly?
00:12:22.640 Where's the sense of command of leadership?
00:12:24.300 Who's the boss in this exchange?
00:12:26.460 Not even about Bernier.
00:12:28.500 About these schmuck reporters. 0.99
00:12:30.180 I mean, seriously, who allows themselves to be pushed around for 11 minutes like this?
00:12:36.060 Mr. Scheer, how hard is it going to be for you to go into the next election with someone creating division like this?
00:12:40.060 As I said, he's an individual member of Parliament.
00:12:43.300 He doesn't speak for the party.
00:12:44.740 I think Canadians know where we stand for it.
00:12:46.780 Who doesn't speak for if he doesn't speak for the party?
00:12:48.100 Does he speak for himself?
00:12:48.900 Is that the case for every single member of the Conservative Party?
00:12:51.140 As I said, when we approach these types of issues,
00:12:54.120 we have our lead spokespeople on it.
00:12:56.300 We have shadow ministers that are heavily engaged in files.
00:12:59.400 They've studied all the documents.
00:13:01.480 They do the deep research.
00:13:02.900 They work with their colleagues on committee.
00:13:04.760 So they are the lead spokespeople for the party.
00:13:08.060 And everybody else is there just to toe the party line?
00:13:10.200 And other members of Parliament who occupy other roles have other roles to play,
00:13:14.320 whether it's the deputy shadow minister who helped in that work as well,
00:13:17.360 or people on committee.
00:13:18.460 So that is the position that our party has in.
00:13:25.040 What role does Mr. Bernier play in the party right now?
00:13:27.980 What does he bring to your party at this point?
00:13:30.240 Look, my challenge to any member of Parliament is...
00:13:33.280 Specifically to him?
00:13:34.640 My challenge to any member of Parliament is we all have different backgrounds,
00:13:39.760 we all represent different parts of the riding,
00:13:41.360 and we all have different expertise.
00:13:44.580 That was a fairly short clip.
00:13:46.260 I know it felt like half an hour.
00:13:48.240 I'll tell you, it was painful to watch the whole 11 minutes.
00:13:50.600 He didn't lean in.
00:13:52.420 He didn't talk about, I don't know, free speech,
00:13:54.300 giving MPs freedom to speak, unlike Trudeau.
00:13:56.480 He didn't go on the offensive.
00:13:57.460 He didn't pivot and talk about what Trudeau was doing wrong.
00:14:00.460 And he didn't push back at the hypocritical lying media.
00:14:03.020 He just assumed the position.
00:14:04.680 They're morally right.
00:14:05.680 He's on the defensive.
00:14:06.840 They can be rude with him.
00:14:08.040 He has to take it.
00:14:09.300 I'm not even talking about the substance here.
00:14:12.600 What's troubling here is not Scheer's stance towards Bernier.
00:14:15.520 We don't even really know what that is.
00:14:18.020 What's troubling here is how easily the mainstream media,
00:14:21.000 especially the CBC, can kettle Andrew Scheer,
00:14:24.360 can put him in a box,
00:14:25.600 can tell him what to say and do and think.
00:14:27.900 A peer pressure of a few reporters can wobble him.
00:14:32.220 You might think Bernier is wrong substantively.
00:14:34.980 I don't think you do.
00:14:35.700 You may think he's wrong to be noisy when he's not the leader.
00:14:39.980 Could be.
00:14:41.300 Whatever.
00:14:41.820 But you cannot deny that Maxime Bernier is one of the few conservative MPs
00:14:45.620 with the courage and the ability to put the media party in their place.
00:14:50.100 If Andrew Scheer doesn't learn that skill pretty quickly,
00:14:54.580 he will not only not be prime minister in next year's election,
00:14:59.000 he won't be opposition leader anymore either.
00:15:02.740 Stay with us for more.
00:15:05.700 Welcome back.
00:15:20.800 Well, the media party is obsessing over the Bernier-Sheer feud.
00:15:25.800 I'm not even sure if the feud is a hot war that the CBC wishes it was.
00:15:31.000 I mean, obviously, there's some rivalry between the two men,
00:15:34.280 but I don't think it's quite the fight they want to see.
00:15:37.820 But it allows them to not talk about another member of parliament,
00:15:43.640 Ikra Khalid.
00:15:44.620 She's the Muslim MP from Mississauga.
00:15:48.960 And I mentioned that she's Muslim because that has been the centerpiece of her career as an MP,
00:15:53.920 introducing M103, a motion that was passed by parliament condemning Islamophobia with a whole-of-government approach.
00:16:03.020 We're not sure exactly what that means, and she won't define it.
00:16:06.820 But she's made the news again by giving, not once, but several times,
00:16:12.080 certificates and awards to a man who has been described as a virulent anti-Semite.
00:16:18.580 Well, joining us now is the one journalist in this country who has not ignored what Ikra Khalid has done,
00:16:24.040 our friend Anthony Fury from the Toronto Sun.
00:16:25.740 Anthony, great to see you again.
00:16:27.420 Hey, Ezra.
00:16:28.360 You know, I would like you to take a minute, if you would be so kind,
00:16:31.480 to give our viewers a bit of a briefing on Amin El-Muad and his relationship to both Ikra Khalid,
00:16:39.120 the MP from Mississauga, and Justin Trudeau,
00:16:41.860 because they certainly won't have heard the news from the CBC or the Toronto Star.
00:16:46.060 So can you give our viewers the briefing?
00:16:48.580 Well, what's kind of interesting is actually last night I did see there was a story by CBC
00:16:52.560 saying that Ikra Khalid was apologizing and rescinding an award that she gave to this fellow,
00:16:59.120 Amin El-Muad, just last week after pressure rose from B'nai B'rith, Canada,
00:17:03.920 and they posted an online petition to get her to rescind the award.
00:17:09.000 And then she said, OK, I'm doing it.
00:17:10.320 I was unaware of his negative views, which are seen as sort of very anti-Semitic and aggressive.
00:17:15.260 Didn't know about that.
00:17:16.840 So anyway, I'm going to be a good MP here and rescind this award.
00:17:21.180 End of story.
00:17:22.180 And I was reading this and I just thought, is this an old story?
00:17:25.820 What is this from?
00:17:26.400 I'm very confused because I had written a story, Ezra, earlier this year,
00:17:30.480 back in April about Ikra Khalid's association with Amin El-Muad,
00:17:34.940 who is sort of the PR head of communications for an organization called Palestine House,
00:17:39.660 where she had given him awards previously earlier this year, in around April of this year,
00:17:45.240 and last year in September of 2017.
00:17:48.780 Now, what's very interesting about all of that, Ezra, is the September 2017 award-giving came
00:17:55.200 one month after police opened an investigation in Peel Region, the Peel Regional Police,
00:18:02.280 into a rally that he participated in, what was actually a leader in.
00:18:05.900 He was holding the bullhorn for the chants and so forth, where maybe it seemed like just
00:18:10.040 a Palestinian-Israeli pure politics rally.
00:18:12.960 But then they started doing bizarre chants, including to call to bring back the Battle of
00:18:17.560 Khyber, which was a battle that Muhammad was present at many, of course, hundreds of years
00:18:22.260 ago, where Jews were killed and a whole Jewish community was taken over.
00:18:27.060 And this was what brought the police to investigate it.
00:18:29.400 And after him doing this, a month later, Ikra Khalid gives him this award.
00:18:35.000 And I'm told that advocacy groups had already gotten in touch with her to say,
00:18:39.580 by the way, we see you're palling around with this guy.
00:18:41.960 We'd like to draw these views to your attention.
00:18:44.220 So I was very perplexed by that CBC story where just yesterday, Khalid said,
00:18:49.040 oh, I just gave an award a few days ago.
00:18:51.360 Didn't know about these views.
00:18:53.080 Sorry about that, folks.
00:18:54.300 When it seems like that is just not correct, Ezra.
00:18:56.540 So the news that CBC gives us is fake news, or more specifically, spin, accepting her
00:19:04.640 excuse, oh, I didn't know.
00:19:06.520 It was an accident, an accident that I keep on making by keeping on giving him these awards.
00:19:11.800 You know, you mentioned that Khybar thing. 0.99
00:19:13.720 I mean, it's a real important narrative in the Koran about Muhammad killing a whole community 1.00
00:19:20.580 of Jews that don't submit.
00:19:21.820 So to our, you know, regular viewers who've never heard of Khybar before this,
00:19:26.680 well, that's a weird thing to mention.
00:19:28.240 But an analogy would be if someone were to, you know, if a German person, let's say, were
00:19:33.580 to say, I'm going to bring an Auschwitz on you. 0.99
00:19:36.060 That's sort of the analogy that I would suggest if the head of Palestine House is at a rally
00:19:42.220 calling for another Khybar. 1.00
00:19:43.760 It would be like someone saying in a German accent, I'm going to bring another concentration 0.92
00:19:48.400 camp on you.
00:19:49.020 Like, that's crazy.
00:19:50.820 And I don't believe in censorship for Canadian citizens in Canada, but that's not even what
00:19:55.920 we're talking about here.
00:19:56.680 We're talking about Ikra Khalid positively championing, rewarding, admiring this person.
00:20:03.820 And by the way, that message comes through to police.
00:20:06.780 If this crazy guy is calling for, you know, indirectly a massacre of Jews, and he's got a
00:20:13.800 powerful ally in parliament, maybe the police get the message to back off a bit.
00:20:18.080 Yeah, I spoke with Peel Regional Police at the time.
00:20:21.720 I'm looking at the quote right now, and they told me it was investigated and deemed that
00:20:25.260 there was no criminal offense.
00:20:26.800 So I guess they decided alluding to this historical event.
00:20:29.900 And when I studied it, I think the Auschwitz comparison is pretty apt, although I guess because 1.00
00:20:34.660 there were so many Muslim warriors who showed up, like 20,000 of them, but there were only
00:20:38.740 1,000 Jews.
00:20:39.680 The Jews kind of immediately surrendered.
00:20:41.460 So they didn't need to slaughter them all.
00:20:43.000 They just forced them to submit and took over the land.
00:20:45.220 So maybe they said, oh, we only killed two guys.
00:20:46.960 It wasn't comparable to Auschwitz.
00:20:48.740 I don't know if that's why the police decided this wasn't actually incitement to violence.
00:20:54.000 They never described their rationale to me.
00:20:56.300 But yeah, it's certainly someone calling for this historical thing where they triumphed in
00:21:01.180 a rather violent and aggressive way over a different ethnic religious group.
00:21:06.400 That is 100% what's going on here.
00:21:08.940 And you're right, the CBC, I mean, buying the spin, I guess Ikra Khalid said, this is
00:21:13.320 my statement.
00:21:14.100 And they said, OK, fine.
00:21:15.340 Whereas if you'd done a very simple thing, you'd gone into Google and you'd Googled Ikra
00:21:18.860 Khalid and Amin al-Muad, you would have found my story.
00:21:21.780 It probably would have been the first top hit if you want to research any association between
00:21:26.440 the two.
00:21:26.760 I appreciate that CBC journalists probably are apt fans of mine waiting to see whatever my
00:21:32.420 next piece is.
00:21:33.120 But you just simply Google it, you're going to find that I had already done the legwork,
00:21:36.980 which calls into question the sort of answer and rationale that she's giving.
00:21:41.460 Yeah.
00:21:41.740 You know, this reminds me a little bit of Jaspal Atwal.
00:21:46.980 That was the Sikh terrorist who tried to murder a cabinet minister from India in BC some years
00:21:53.880 ago and then just found himself on Justin Trudeau's entourage to India earlier this year.
00:22:02.100 And they said, oh, we didn't know.
00:22:03.580 We didn't know.
00:22:04.240 And because, like you say, not only did Ikra Khalid on several occasions give this man
00:22:10.420 awards, even after she was briefed by groups that it was a bad idea, even after your story
00:22:17.560 came out.
00:22:18.160 But we've got a picture, and we'll show it, of this same, you know, upstanding citizen schmoozing
00:22:26.480 with Justin Trudeau.
00:22:27.740 And I wonder if there's any filter at all or if there's anyone he won't meet with.
00:22:33.940 He met with that Joshua Boyle who went to the Taliban with his wife.
00:22:40.160 He used to be Omar Khadr's brother-in-law.
00:22:42.980 He'll meet with, you know, Jaspal Atwal and take him to India.
00:22:46.720 He'll meet with this fella.
00:22:48.780 I just want to get the name right here.
00:22:50.520 I mean, Al-Muad.
00:22:52.380 Is there anyone Justin Trudeau won't meet with on the identity politics extreme left,
00:22:59.540 including people who promote violence?
00:23:02.520 Well, it's a very good question.
00:23:04.020 And I've had a number of people from different dissident communities approach me in the past
00:23:08.120 couple of years.
00:23:08.780 And the Iranian community, for instance, the people who came to Canada in the 80s and 90s
00:23:12.520 to flee the excesses of the Iranian regime, they're a little concerned that people who
00:23:16.520 are pro-regime are piling around with Justin Trudeau right now.
00:23:20.520 And they have a variety of evidence to back up those statements.
00:23:24.100 There are concerns that people connected to the Chinese Communist Party are welcomed into
00:23:28.260 the liberal fold.
00:23:29.120 And then Jaspal Atwal is, I guess, is or was.
00:23:32.000 I mean, he says those are his old ways.
00:23:33.440 But he's a sort of Kalistani extremist character.
00:23:37.260 And of course, let's not forget, he also assaulted.
00:23:40.140 He beat Ujjal Dussanj with a lead pipe back in the 80s.
00:23:43.120 Ujjal went on to become a federal liberal cabinet minister.
00:23:45.820 So there are a lot of associations there.
00:23:47.480 And it's unclear exactly what's going on.
00:23:49.380 It is as simple as ethnic pandering, where you go, OK, who are these people collected
00:23:53.580 into groups and numbers?
00:23:55.000 I can get their votes easily by just appeasing this power broker.
00:23:58.580 And then he'll bring me the 500 votes.
00:24:00.300 Is it as sort of as simple as that, just using people?
00:24:03.940 Is there other stuff going on, somewhat overlap of ideologies?
00:24:07.720 I don't know.
00:24:08.400 But the question is that the evidence is mounting that there are people with, I think, kind of
00:24:14.220 dubious affiliations who have found themselves welcomed into the federal liberal fold.
00:24:19.320 Yeah.
00:24:19.760 You know, I think the real problem is that Justin Trudeau and his party is so chummy with
00:24:25.380 these folks.
00:24:25.800 The secondary problem is that the media party, it shows so little interest in it.
00:24:31.740 And I can assure you, if there was this kind of talk by an alt-right group, and if some
00:24:38.420 conservative MP gave a certificate to them, not once but twice, it wouldn't be so easily
00:24:44.040 brushed off by the CBC.
00:24:45.860 I have one last question to you.
00:24:47.280 And I saw that Norman Spector, who I follow on Twitter, he's a former chief of staff to
00:24:51.140 Brian Mulroney.
00:24:51.740 He's a bit of a cantankerous fella out in Victoria.
00:24:53.860 But I like following him.
00:24:55.360 And he said it was ironic that the MP who was promoting the M103 anti-Islamophobia censorship
00:25:02.380 motion is the same MP that had a tolerance for the anti-Semitism here.
00:25:07.760 And I wrote back to him, I said, I don't think it's a coincidence.
00:25:11.000 I don't think it's ironic.
00:25:12.140 Because those things I don't think are opposite.
00:25:14.040 I think if you're for banning speech critical of Islam, but you support an extremist Muslim 1.00
00:25:21.200 who has hate for Jews, I think those two things are not necessarily opposites.
00:25:27.300 I think Justin Trudeau has an extremism problem in this party.
00:25:30.540 Last word to you, Anthony.
00:25:31.700 What do you think?
00:25:32.900 And you know, Ezra, it's a very good question.
00:25:34.420 Because M103 was later sold to us about being this sort of ecumenical denunciation of all
00:25:39.420 forms of intolerance, all forms of hate speech, including denouncing anti-Semitism.
00:25:43.940 And that was kind of the end for why we should all buy into it, because who can complain about
00:25:48.000 that?
00:25:48.460 But the origin story of it, and Ikra Khalid had previously acknowledged this, was it
00:25:53.080 came from an e-petition on the House of Commons website where a person was focusing on Islamophobia
00:25:58.800 and wanted to see action against that.
00:26:01.740 So yes, to say that somehow it is sort of anti-Semitism is not necessarily included in
00:26:09.340 these denunciations, I think is a fair point.
00:26:11.360 Yeah.
00:26:11.960 Well, Anthony, it's great to see you again.
00:26:13.200 And I'm so glad that you were doing the journalism on this last year, because I think it proves
00:26:19.800 that her claim that she just didn't know, well, it proves what we all suspect, which is that's
00:26:25.300 not true.
00:26:26.240 Great to see you again.
00:26:26.920 Keep up the fight.
00:26:28.160 Thanks, Ezra.
00:26:28.760 All right.
00:26:29.060 There you have it.
00:26:29.420 Anthony Fury.
00:26:30.060 He's the one who broke the story last year about Ikra Khalid's bizarre endorsement of
00:26:35.040 this man, and he's the one blowing the whistle today.
00:26:37.840 Stay with us.
00:26:38.900 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:26:50.980 Welcome back.
00:26:51.820 Well, one of our favorite commentators is my friend Joel Pollack.
00:26:54.440 He said today, Ezra, I'd love to come on the show, but I'm going to be down at the beach.
00:26:58.280 I said, you know, if you're willing to jam us into your recreational time, let us push
00:27:03.000 aside your other stuff.
00:27:04.160 We'd love to talk to you down at the beach.
00:27:06.560 It'll make us a little bit jealous up here in Toronto.
00:27:09.660 But he joins us now via Skype from the Santa Monica beach.
00:27:13.340 So great to see you.
00:27:14.100 I'm so jealous.
00:27:15.660 Just to clarify, this is my office, actually.
00:27:19.000 That's your office.
00:27:19.740 You know, that's what I say when I'm on the beach also, and I, and anyhow, people don't
00:27:25.520 believe me.
00:27:26.000 I'm kidding around.
00:27:27.920 I have something serious I want to talk to you about.
00:27:30.220 I just wanted to explain to our viewers why we got you where we got you.
00:27:33.380 I want to talk to you about James, sorry, John Brennan, John Brennan, a former CIA director
00:27:39.760 who has just been battling Donald Trump.
00:27:43.640 And Donald Trump took away his top security clearance from John Brennan.
00:27:49.600 And John Brennan has been squawking and liberals have been squawking about this.
00:27:54.660 Can you tell us what's going on and who's right and who's wrong?
00:27:58.500 Well, sure.
00:28:00.780 Well, just to give you some background, John Brennan has been attacking the president for
00:28:05.720 the last 18 months or more.
00:28:08.380 And recently, last month, he accused the president of treason for his press conference with Vladimir
00:28:15.180 Putin.
00:28:15.820 Now, you might not like the press conference.
00:28:18.420 I thought it was fine.
00:28:19.740 You might not like it.
00:28:20.600 But on the list of things that amount to treason, a press conference probably doesn't rank up
00:28:26.420 very high.
00:28:27.080 So Brennan is a little bit off the rails.
00:28:30.100 He's a little bit gone.
00:28:33.620 OK.
00:28:34.320 And yet he has top security clearance because he's a former director of the CIA.
00:28:39.600 Trump threatened to do this some time ago.
00:28:42.460 And now he's actually done it.
00:28:44.140 He removed Brennan's security clearance.
00:28:45.800 Now, many Americans are surprised that former intelligence officials would have any security
00:28:50.220 clearance at all.
00:28:51.980 Why would you need to know top secrets if you're no longer working for the U.S.
00:28:56.360 government?
00:28:58.240 The White House actually explained that this had been done in the past in case the new
00:29:03.400 president needed to ask older or retired intelligence officials for advice and counsel.
00:29:10.760 So if he wanted to get their advice, they'd have to have security clearance so they could
00:29:15.520 see the information about which he was asking them.
00:29:19.020 But in this case, there's just no reason Brennan would ever give Donald Trump advice, nor would
00:29:25.700 Donald Trump seek advice from him.
00:29:27.140 Brennan is trying to overthrow the government, perhaps by legal means.
00:29:31.420 We don't know.
00:29:31.900 In one of his recent tweets, he left it rather open-ended.
00:29:34.000 He said that it was time for Republican patriots to do something.
00:29:37.920 Now, probably he meant impeachment.
00:29:40.120 Maybe Republicans should join Democrats in impeaching the president.
00:29:43.220 Again, over a press conference, over a policy difference, that is to say, no high crimes or
00:29:48.160 misdemeanors, just a policy difference.
00:29:51.120 But he left it open-ended.
00:29:52.420 So we don't know what he means.
00:29:53.600 And when the CIA tells you that he wants your head of state removed from power, you don't
00:29:59.220 have to be a conspiracy nut to start thinking that's a little inappropriate.
00:30:02.440 Maybe that person shouldn't have access to sensitive intelligence, to classified information.
00:30:07.340 You mentioned the White House outlined their reasons.
00:30:10.260 Let me show a brief clip of Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who read out a statement from Trump.
00:30:15.240 And I thought it was very clear and very persuasive.
00:30:19.060 Here, we'll take a quick look at that.
00:30:20.960 First, at this point in my administration, any benefits that senior officials might glean
00:30:25.920 from consultations with Mr. Brennan are now outweighed by the risks posed by his erratic
00:30:31.200 conduct and behavior.
00:30:33.100 Second, that conduct and behavior has tested and far exceeded the limits of any professional
00:30:38.300 courtesy that may have been due to him.
00:30:40.720 Mr. Brennan has a history that calls into question his objectivity and credibility.
00:30:45.980 You know, Joel, that's very calm reasoning.
00:30:49.360 And I mean, I remember reading that after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, Eisenhower met privately
00:30:56.820 with John F. Kennedy and basically tore his strip off him, but did so in private and was
00:31:01.600 trying to guide the new young president on the right path.
00:31:05.540 Obviously, Eisenhower still had the ability to see the top secrets.
00:31:09.700 That's the kind of older brother mentoring I think you were alluding to.
00:31:14.500 But this John Brennan, along with James Clapper, who I think is even worse, these guys, you
00:31:21.920 use, I think you said the word off the rails.
00:31:23.700 They're so extreme.
00:31:26.660 Their advice is, it's like Rosie O'Donnell shrieking on Twitter or something. 0.92
00:31:32.200 There's no chance they could be useful for the government.
00:31:35.080 But they use that top secret security clearance as like a business card.
00:31:40.920 You know, CNN, you should have me on because I have talk secret information and I know things.
00:31:45.540 So it's almost like he's renting it out.
00:31:47.620 He's making financial gains off that privilege.
00:31:51.560 So that was the case made by Senator Rand Paul.
00:31:54.080 That's why he actually initially urged the White House to drop the security clearance of
00:31:58.460 Clapper and others.
00:31:59.820 There are a number of intelligence officials, former intelligence officials, I should say,
00:32:04.240 who have contracts now with media companies.
00:32:07.000 Well, there's a huge conflict of interest there.
00:32:08.700 I mean, you wouldn't give classified intelligence, you wouldn't give high-level security clearance
00:32:13.380 to a member of the media.
00:32:15.080 So it's not clear why this arrangement is allowed to happen.
00:32:18.660 That's another point, a good one that you make.
00:32:21.100 But the other thing is that Clapper and the people who are defending him are saying this
00:32:24.380 is about freedom of speech, that he's being punished for criticizing the president.
00:32:30.520 Well, it's kind of hard to see national security clearance as a free speech issue.
00:32:35.540 I mean, if you start saying things in the streets, like, I want to bring down the government,
00:32:42.420 you're not going to get security clearance in the first place.
00:32:45.220 These are the kinds of statements that would cause you to be denied access to classified
00:32:49.000 information.
00:32:50.140 Well, it's funny you say that, because I want to throw something at you that the first time
00:32:53.760 I learned about Brennan, I couldn't believe it.
00:32:58.360 But he was a communist, and I'm not just throwing that as an insult.
00:33:05.240 Well, he voted for a communist.
00:33:06.700 He voted for a communist, and he admitted that when he was being screened at the CIA.
00:33:14.200 They hired a communist, or someone who voted for the communist, in the Cold War.
00:33:19.640 They hired him, and they made him the head of the CIA.
00:33:23.180 How does that even happen, Joel?
00:33:27.160 Well, it happens because he was appointed by Obama.
00:33:29.900 I mean, Obama believed the Cold War was distant past, and communism was just a bad idea, or
00:33:36.420 a good idea, I should say, badly implemented.
00:33:38.180 And, you know, Clapper and Brennan and all of these guys, they have shown in their statements
00:33:46.080 about Trump just how politicized the intelligence services of our country became under Obama.
00:33:53.400 Remember, they didn't just spy on the Trump campaign based on this idea of Russia collusion,
00:33:57.800 which began, by the way, as Brennan admitted this week, with a misinterpretation of a joke
00:34:04.060 when Trump joked about the Russians getting Hillary's emails.
00:34:07.120 This began with Brennan not getting a joke, and being so left-wing that he had to get
00:34:12.440 something on Trump.
00:34:13.440 But it's not just that.
00:34:14.420 They lied to Congress about spying on congressional staffers who were doing an investigation.
00:34:18.780 He lied to Congress.
00:34:19.840 This is in a fight with Democrats, actually, with Dianne Feinstein.
00:34:23.060 He also, and the intelligence services generally, downplayed the significance of ISIS.
00:34:27.920 They covered up the poor performance of Obama's strategy abroad, whether it was Iran or Syria
00:34:35.080 or other places.
00:34:35.760 So, we are seeing in their conduct, post-Obama, how they probably never should have had these
00:34:42.500 positions in the first place.
00:34:43.940 I think Brennan is right to lose his security clearance.
00:34:47.120 It was correct for the president to take it from him, and he should take it from other
00:34:49.500 people as well.
00:34:50.540 These are people...
00:34:51.660 They claim that what the president is doing is what authoritarians do in third-world countries.
00:34:55.880 Well, what people really do in third-world countries is when they lose elections, they 1.00
00:34:59.040 refuse to give up power.
00:35:00.060 And that's what Obama's intelligence chiefs are doing here.
00:35:04.020 So, I think Trump's absolutely right, and I think the public actually sides with the president.
00:35:07.760 I want to let you get back to your busy work there at the office.
00:35:11.080 It looks like you've got a lot of office work to do.
00:35:14.340 But I want to show one last clip.
00:35:16.320 And this is...
00:35:16.900 I think this is James Clapper, who is another one of these guys, this anti-Trump extremist.
00:35:23.340 Their language is off the hook, really revealed themselves.
00:35:26.440 And this is him saying that they don't spy on Congress.
00:35:31.080 Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?
00:35:40.040 No, sir.
00:35:41.820 It does not?
00:35:44.440 Not wittingly.
00:35:45.620 There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly.
00:35:54.120 Joel, that's another member of what people have called the deep state.
00:35:57.680 These are ex-CIA guys.
00:35:59.540 Some of them are NSA.
00:36:01.260 They're all sort of the secret spies that we're supposed to trust completely, and most people do.
00:36:08.180 But he was lying there.
00:36:10.140 He actually did spy on those politicians.
00:36:12.840 And if he would spy on Democrats, of course he would spy on Donald Trump.
00:36:17.860 And, you know, it used to be only an Alex Jones conspiracy that the deep state was trying to have a coup.
00:36:24.440 I've got to say, every day, these kooks like Brennan and Clapper make it easier to believe, well, maybe there is a conspiracy.
00:36:33.240 Maybe.
00:36:35.820 Yeah, and that's what they're doing.
00:36:37.720 And they're undermining the independence of the intelligence services.
00:36:42.840 A lot of these people who have come out in defense of him are members of the intelligence services from the past.
00:36:48.020 Not one of them has directly condemned Brennan's accusation of treason.
00:36:52.460 They're basically defending the military and intelligence establishment, and they're forgetting how damaging what Brennan has done is to the country.
00:37:01.320 He's putting politics ahead of principle.
00:37:03.900 And I'm just surprised that there seem to be so few people able to get past that, you know, to get past the politics.
00:37:13.080 You know, I mentioned Eisenhower before.
00:37:15.120 It was Eisenhower who came up with the phrase, the military-industrial complex.
00:37:18.740 I see we've caught you at your busy beach office.
00:37:21.000 We'll let you go, my friend.
00:37:22.040 But thank you so much for joining us.
00:37:23.420 I'm sorry to intrude on your beautiful day at the beach, but it was nice to get your advice.
00:37:29.700 At the office.
00:37:30.500 At the office, that's right.
00:37:30.980 We've got to keep saying that.
00:37:31.980 Take care, my friend.
00:37:32.680 It's great to see you.
00:37:33.440 Thank you.
00:37:34.080 All right.
00:37:34.560 There you have it, our friend Joel Pollack.
00:37:36.240 He's the senior editor-at-large at Breitbart News.
00:37:38.360 And I thought, even though it was a little bit unusual to have him at the beach, his comments are always so wise.
00:37:44.640 Frankly, I was grateful to him that he managed to jam us in.
00:37:47.260 And it does make me slightly jealous because he's joking about it being his office, but that really is how beautiful it is where he lives.
00:37:55.840 All right, folks, stay with us.
00:37:56.860 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:38:08.980 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Justin Trudeau giving environmental groups charity status and retroactive pardons for breaking tax laws.
00:38:16.660 Jonathan writes, Trudeau should really rethink this charity law.
00:38:21.160 Not only does it give the rebel the right to claim charity status, but also allows conservative-leaning charities like churches the license to be political.
00:38:29.140 Hey, that's a good point.
00:38:30.220 I mean, wasn't it Trudeau who banned any Christian group from getting summer jobs grants?
00:38:35.980 But I think that what he wants to do is have the law applied unevenly.
00:38:41.600 Look, the CRA, I think, is a pretty nonpartisan institution.
00:38:45.340 I think auditors and bureaucrats there generally try and apply the tax laws regardless of your political leanings.
00:38:52.420 I really think so.
00:38:53.660 That's why it's so gross for Trudeau to reach into the CRA and just flick a couple of the auditors off the files of his friends.
00:39:01.140 That's what he's doing here.
00:39:02.400 I actually don't know if they would even allow conservative groups to be charities.
00:39:06.720 And my deeper worry is that conservatives in Canada wouldn't give to them.
00:39:10.980 Deborah writes, I wouldn't bother applying for charity status because you're potentially opening the rebel up to being audited by the CRA.
00:39:19.500 Trudeau would like nothing better than to find out who is supporting the rebel.
00:39:22.160 You're right, but if we had a separate, if the rebel was over here and we had a separate rebel foundation over here and you could choose,
00:39:33.200 you could support the rebel over here and it would remain confidential or you could support over here and you get a tax receipt, you could choose.
00:39:41.140 So if people were concerned, it could be a valid concern, they don't have to give to the charity, but if they wanted to, they could.
00:39:49.440 It's an idea.
00:39:50.540 I'm going to get some legal advice on it, but, you know, if it just costs us a thousand bucks in the filing fees to set up a rebel foundation,
00:39:57.620 and if we can make very, very sure that we're compliant with the law, I don't want to break the law, of course.
00:40:03.480 If we can follow these new rules and have a charity over here that supports proper aspects of our work over here at the company,
00:40:12.520 I'm tempted to do it, especially if we let viewers have the choice of whether they want to give directly to the rebel or to the rebel foundation.
00:40:20.820 I'm still thinking it through.
00:40:21.900 I've only been thinking about this for about a day or so.
00:40:25.120 Liza writes,
00:40:26.880 Bernie has to stay in the game and fight for us.
00:40:29.640 They're going to try hard to push him out.
00:40:31.000 Well, I don't really trust many in the party, and Bernier is saying exactly what most Canadians are thinking and feeling.
00:40:37.220 Well, that's the thing.
00:40:38.780 You know, I think that, I mean, I know that Bernier and Scheer obviously are rivals.
00:40:45.700 That's obvious.
00:40:48.800 Bernier led the first 12 ballots of the leadership, and Scheer only won it on the last ballot by about a percent.
00:40:55.680 That's got to still sting, and I bet Bernier's thinking, coulda, shoulda, woulda, what if.
00:41:02.700 And he's clearly still very much engaged in politics.
00:41:06.260 He hasn't gone away.
00:41:07.940 And I think that's the right move, because who knows?
00:41:09.800 If Andrew Scheer doesn't win in this next election, the party may well want to have a do-over of its leadership.
00:41:14.440 But that said, acknowledging that natural rivalry, which may still and probably still does exist,
00:41:22.720 I don't think Maxime Bernier did anything wrong here.
00:41:26.220 You could even say by criticizing dairy cartels, he was sort of poking at the leader.
00:41:31.340 Yeah, you could.
00:41:32.720 Because that was Andrew Scheer's way he won.
00:41:35.060 But by poking at Justin Trudeau and his diversity as a strength BS, how is that poking at Andrew Scheer?
00:41:42.080 By going after Iqra Khalid, that's what Bernier's next tweets were about, how is that poking at Andrew Scheer?
00:41:49.940 By going after Rosemary Barton and Trudeau's state broadcaster, how is that going after Andrew Scheer?
00:41:56.000 And how is that mowing the lawn of any particular conservative shadow cabinet minister, opposition critic?
00:42:02.100 It's not.
00:42:02.600 But the reason this is an issue is because it demonstrates that Bernier has a style and a charisma and a voice and a clarity of speech that can command attention.
00:42:13.640 Can I ask you, what was the last thing Andrew Scheer did that commands attention?
00:42:17.960 And unfortunately or fortunately, whatever, that's one of the qualities in a leader.
00:42:22.860 You have to be able to command attention.
00:42:24.860 And I don't know if Andrew Scheer's done that.
00:42:26.980 And that's a problem for Andrew Scheer because I don't even think most conservatives know who he is.
00:42:30.200 There are people who have been fighting hard in the public square for the Conservative Party for years, even decades.
00:42:36.240 Jason Kenney was a famous name like that.
00:42:38.180 I put Pierre Polyev in that camp.
00:42:40.260 Whether or not you like everything Pierre Polyev has done, he is a fighter and he's sort of a hero within the Conservative Party because he fights.
00:42:48.280 Andrew Scheer can't say that because for 10 years he was really out on the sidelines as the Speaker of the House.
00:42:53.480 He was non-partisan, so he doesn't have that folk love of the party that Pierre would, that Jason did, that Maxime has.
00:43:02.580 Because Maxime is at least known in the party.
00:43:04.620 He's not perfect, but the mistakes he's made are outweighed by the fact that he wins in Quebec,
00:43:09.840 that he cuts a charming figure, that he speaks French, he is libertarian, which many people in the party like.
00:43:16.440 So I think that Andrew Scheer has to be careful, and he has to be careful that he doesn't succumb to his number one weakness,
00:43:23.320 being bullied around by the press.
00:43:25.820 And you know what I think could get Maxime Bernier in trouble?
00:43:30.060 Not what he does.
00:43:32.440 But if Andrew Scheer is so susceptible to peer pressure from the CBC that they cause him to throw Bernier out.
00:43:40.720 That's the risk, and it's what I've been saying all along about Andrew Scheer.
00:43:44.980 He's too susceptible to being pushed around by the CBC.
00:43:51.340 That's our show for today.
00:43:53.640 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:43:58.220 good night.
00:43:59.600 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:44:00.580 Keep fighting for freedom.