Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau repeatedly calls a “heckling grandma” a “racist”： Here's the FULL video the Media Party won't show you

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Justin Trudeau loses his cool on a heckler in Quebec, calling her racist.

00:00:05.580 We've got the full video the mainstream media won't show you.

00:00:09.120 It's August 20th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

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00:00:21.380 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:25.080 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:28.080 The only thing I have to say to the government for why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:39.100 Justin Trudeau absolutely lost his cool over the weekend.

00:00:43.060 His staff always insulate him from criticism, and the Canadian media is so overwhelmingly biased towards him.

00:00:48.820 He really doesn't know what to do with someone like this woman who dared to heckle him in Quebec.

00:00:55.400 Take a look.

00:00:58.080 He's used to being lavished with praise.

00:01:05.860 He has been his whole life.

00:01:07.640 Ever since he was a boy, he's just not good at handling criticism.

00:01:11.260 He surrounds himself with yes-men.

00:01:13.720 So on those rare moments when someone manages to get through his bubble to speak truth to power,

00:01:19.340 he falls apart.

00:01:20.300 Like this weekend in Quebec, Trudeau was giving a stump speech when that woman started heckling him. 0.99

00:01:26.140 Take a look.

00:01:32.800 And now I'm going to show you more of it.

00:01:35.060 I'm going to show you the whole thing, okay, from the beginning to the end.

00:01:38.480 But let me set the clip up a bit first.

00:01:40.920 I mean, heckling, that's not very friendly, is it?

00:01:44.300 Well, it's actually a pretty important part of democracy.

00:01:46.620 We have the right to heckle our political leaders, maybe even a duty if they're doing something really wrong.

00:01:54.280 I mean, they heckle each other in Parliament, right?

00:01:57.360 And Trudeau heckles back, right?

00:01:59.660 I mean, who can forget Trudeau's own eloquent reply a few years back when he was in opposition to Peter Kent?

00:02:06.320 Here, take a listen.

00:02:07.880 You'll hear a swear being shouted in the background.

00:02:11.640 That's our boy Justin.

00:02:13.580 Well, Mr. Speaker, my honorable colleague, if she had been in Durban, would have seen that, in fact, Canada was among the leaders in the...

00:02:22.320 Order.

00:02:25.980 Order.

00:02:26.660 Order.

00:02:33.600 Hmm, that was Trudeau.

00:02:35.200 He later apologized.

00:02:37.000 I lost my temper and used language that was most decidedly unparliamentary, and for that I unreservedly apologize, Mr. Speaker.

00:02:47.080 And withdraw my remorse.

00:02:49.080 That Zorro mustache was just perfect for him, wasn't it? 0.99

00:02:52.500 Anyways, heckling, yeah.

00:02:53.980 Not so good at, say, weddings or funerals.

00:02:57.100 But those are private events, ceremonies, really.

00:02:58.960 A politician giving a stump speech is pretty much the number one place you should heckle, other than maybe at a comedy club.

00:03:06.980 And like at a comedy club, how the speaker deals with hecklers is really a test of your temperament.

00:03:12.500 I mean, for comedians, it's a test of how quick you can think on your feet and how funny you are.

00:03:16.820 For politicians, it's a test of how quick you can think on your feet and how smart you are or how funny you are.

00:03:22.960 A funny reply to a heckler can be as winning for a politician as for a comedian.

00:03:28.280 So how did boy Trudeau do?

00:03:31.540 Well, I'll show you.

00:03:32.560 Just FYI, the grandmother who heckles Trudeau, she's talking about Trudeau's decision to let in tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the United States, just walking right across our borders, not applying legally, but pretending to be refugees when, of course, they're not.

00:03:48.220 No one coming from the United States is a refugee, but Trudeau lets them all stay, and he even puts them up in hotels at the expense of Canadian taxpayers. 1.00

00:03:57.260 So without further ado, watch this grandmother heckle Trudeau and watch his response. 0.62

00:04:03.140 Madame, on a livré une augmentation du supplément de revenus garantie de 1 000 $ par mois, de 1 000 $ par année pour les aînés, les seuls et les plus vulnérables.

00:04:14.740 On est inversé à des milliards de dollars pour l'allocation de la guerre aux enfants.

00:04:20.780 Ça fait une énorme différence dans la vie de famille à travers la province et le pays.

00:04:26.980 Madame, une des choses importantes, madame, en politique, c'est l'écoute.

00:04:33.400 Mes amis, c'est l'écoute qui compte.

00:04:35.660 On est en dialogue.

00:04:37.420 Je suis...

00:04:37.760 Bien, vous me répondez pas, répondez pas, répondez pas, monsieur.

00:04:40.880 C'est pas très gentil.

00:04:41.740 Répondez-moi.

00:04:43.620 On est ici pour échanger, pour dialoguer.

00:04:46.640 J'ai bien hâte de vous écouter ici, à position que vous écoutiez, madame.

00:04:51.180 Vous avez quelque chose à dire, madame? 0.74

00:04:52.660 Je veux savoir quand vous allez nous remettre le 146 millions qu'on a payé pour vos immigrants illégaux. 0.62

00:05:00.000 OK, madame.

00:05:01.500 C'est nous autres qui a payé pour ça.

00:05:04.020 OK, now, so far, so good.

00:05:05.920 He actually tells the heckling grandma that they have to listen to each other.

00:05:10.540 That sounds calm and friendly enough and respectful enough.

00:05:13.720 And to tell you the truth, it makes him look good, don't you think?

00:05:16.600 So he actually invites her to put her question.

00:05:21.140 And she does.

00:05:22.680 Without insults.

00:05:24.300 Without profanity.

00:05:26.020 She doesn't call him a piece of S-H-I-T, like he called Peter Kent.

00:05:30.860 And it's a real question.

00:05:32.540 What about the $164 million spent on Trudeau's illegal immigrants so far?

00:05:38.220 It's a question that everyone is asking in Canada.

00:05:40.980 At least different versions of that question.

00:05:43.820 Even the mainstream media acknowledges it's an issue.

00:05:46.260 It's a crisis.

00:05:46.960 They use that word, crisis.

00:05:48.740 The opposition in Parliament calls it a crisis.

00:05:50.620 His own bureaucrats call it a crisis.

00:05:52.540 And the liberal premier of Quebec calls it a crisis.

00:05:55.040 So much so that he insists on bussing Trudeau's illegal immigrants to Toronto.

00:06:00.760 Because he doesn't even want them in his province.

00:06:02.620 So what's Trudeau's first answer?

00:06:06.300 She was heckling him.

00:06:08.080 But then he invited her to put her question, get it out of her system.

00:06:11.500 And she did very succinctly.

00:06:14.140 I mean, sure, she's irritating. 1.00

00:06:15.480 But if you don't like that, don't go into politics.

00:06:19.620 She put her question and immediately, his immediate reaction was to attack her as racist.

00:06:27.200 She didn't call him names.

00:06:29.420 But he immediately called her, and presumably anyone else who dares to share the same opinions

00:06:33.780 as her, why they're intolerant, racist. 0.86

00:06:37.920 Take a look. 0.98

00:06:38.300 So she's intolerant. 0.98

00:06:58.240 She's racist towards immigrants.

00:07:00.480 But she wasn't.

00:07:01.500 She just asked him a real question.

00:07:04.180 Who's going to pay for it all?

00:07:05.080 Why does she have to pay $146 million along with other taxpayers? 1.00

00:07:08.620 How's that a racist question?

00:07:10.660 What's that got to do with race at all?

00:07:13.480 Trudeau is setting the example on how to treat people who disagree.

00:07:17.440 You can see other people telling her to shut up.

00:07:20.120 Now, fair enough.

00:07:21.080 She can dish it out.

00:07:22.300 She can take it.

00:07:23.020 But then, look, look, someone falsely accuses her of making a threat of violence.

00:07:29.740 I mean, it's a hoax, but right away, a plainclothes RCMP officer comes right over to check it out.

00:07:36.360 And she obviously denies it.

00:07:37.880 And we know the truth because we've been listening and watching her.

00:07:42.500 You can tell the guy who comes over as RCMP because he's got an earpiece in his ear.

00:07:47.240 He talks to her once or twice, but he basically leaves her alone.

00:07:50.700 Take a look.

00:07:53.020 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:00.740 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:04.680 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:16.960 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:30.900 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:32.120 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:32.620 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.

00:08:38.200 Monsieur Trudeau, êtes-vous tolérant avec les Québécois de tous ?

00:08:52.200 On n'est pas un territoire Mohawk !

00:09:03.200 On n'est pas un territoire Mohawk !

00:09:09.200 Avez-vous, c'est la place de l'Europe enverte les Québécois de tous ?

00:09:13.200 So she's responded in an interesting way.

00:09:16.200 She was just accused by Justin Trudeau of being intolerant

00:09:19.200 because she dared to question his immigration crisis and specifically its costs.

00:09:23.200 By the way, most Canadians are opposed to Trudeau on immigration.

00:09:26.200 Trudeau's own polls show that 92% of Canadians don't want increased immigration,

00:09:31.200 but he's forcing it on us anyways.

00:09:33.200 You could say he's intolerant of our views.

00:09:36.200 So she asks Trudeau, and she says Mr. Trudeau.

00:09:39.200 She's being even more polite now actually.

00:09:42.200 She asks if Mr. Trudeau is tolerant of old stock Quebecers. 0.99

00:09:47.200 And remember, this is in Quebec.

00:09:49.200 Their ethnic identity, their distinct society status,

00:09:52.200 their specialness has been drummed into the rest of us Canadians

00:09:56.200 by liberal politicians for 50 years since the FLQ crisis, right?

00:10:00.200 So it's hardly radical what she says there.

00:10:02.200 Quebecers do have an ethnic cultural identity.

00:10:06.200 I mean, don't be surprised.

00:10:07.200 It's what we've been told to accept for decades.

00:10:10.200 It's really for centuries since Lower Canada was given special French Catholic privileges

00:10:15.200 under the British Empire, and that's fine by me.

00:10:18.200 Quebecers obviously are different than the rest of Canadians. 1.00

00:10:21.200 My point is, this woman wasn't asking anything that Trudeau himself hasn't said his whole life.

00:10:28.200 He's a Quebec chauvinist himself.

00:10:30.200 Remember this?

00:10:31.200 Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada because, you know, we're Quebecers.

00:10:39.200 Yeah.

00:10:40.200 So let's keep watching now.

00:10:42.200 So the speech is over.

00:10:43.200 She had her heckles. 1.00

00:10:45.200 The RCMP came over, stood right by her, obviously saw who she was.

00:10:49.200 An angry grandma, but not anyone posing any danger at all.

00:10:53.200 Not making threats, not swearing, not really even shouting except to be heard.

00:10:58.200 Trudeau himself invited her to speak.

00:11:01.200 She did.

00:11:02.200 Everything's fine.

00:11:03.200 I mean, Trudeau's reaction was way, way over the top,

00:11:07.200 immediately escalating to calling her names.

00:11:09.200 So let's keep watching because the worst is yet to come.

00:11:13.200 Now notice there's a guy behind her in a cap, a light shirt and a dark knapsack.

00:11:19.200 That's another RCMP officer in plain clothes.

00:11:22.200 He follows her towards Trudeau.

00:11:24.200 And again, no problem.

00:11:26.200 That's good policing.

00:11:27.200 Just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

00:11:29.200 Just to make sure she doesn't, I don't know, try to hit him or something or grab him.

00:11:35.200 But he's so low key at first.

00:11:39.200 Take a look.

00:11:40.200 Don't let go with her.

00:11:41.200 Don't let本当 say!

00:11:43.200 Don't let go with her! 0.99

00:11:45.200 No problem.

00:11:46.200 Don't let you come from here! 1.00

00:11:47.200 No problem!

00:11:48.200 Hey! 0.99

00:11:50.200 And I haven't put up my lines on that.

00:11:51.200 I haven't done anything in the line!

00:11:52.200 I can't do anything in my opinion.

00:11:57.200 But maybe write-ן them at once.

00:12:00.200 And she's going to give up possible. 0.58

00:12:03.200 Mr. Trudeau, êtes-vous solérant avec les Québécois de Sourge?

00:12:16.780 Êtes-vous solérant avec les Québécois de Sourge?

00:12:20.580 Répondez-moi, vous avez pas votre place au Québec.

00:12:25.900 Allez-vous m'envie?

00:12:27.320 Vous avez pas votre place au Québec.

00:12:28.880 Je suis fier québécois, madame.

00:12:31.020 Je suis fier québécois.

00:12:33.200 So he calls her racist a few more times and says he's a proud Quebecer.

00:12:37.960 And he says she does not belong in Quebec.

00:12:41.520 You can see a couple more RCMP in very dark vests,

00:12:44.180 helping to push them forward, push people back.

00:12:46.180 You can hear her, but you can't see her anymore.

00:12:50.520 But now look at this new camera angle.

00:12:52.360 And for about 10 seconds, you can't hear her anymore either.

00:12:56.760 Take a look.

00:12:57.140 Look at that.

00:13:10.800 Look back there near the tractors.

00:13:13.920 The guy who was following her when she approached the prime minister,

00:13:17.240 you can see his hat.

00:13:18.680 You can see his backpack there near the tractors.

00:13:20.460 You can see her shirt, and he's holding her.

00:13:25.420 He's got her, and he's moved her over to the tractors.

00:13:30.380 Okay, keep rolling.

00:13:31.220 They're demanding an ID card from her.

00:13:47.780 Why?

00:13:48.740 But look what they're doing to her arm there. 1.00

00:13:50.200 Look at how they're holding her arm.

00:13:51.820 Look at how they're bending it for maximum pain.

00:13:56.960 They're holding her bicep and pushing her wrist down. 1.00

00:14:02.980 Now, she's far away from the prime minister now.

00:14:05.520 He has left.

00:14:06.640 You saw him leave.

00:14:08.560 She never said anything threatening to him.

00:14:10.540 She asked him a question, and then you saw it.

00:14:12.900 He came.

00:14:13.820 When he left, he walked right to her.

00:14:16.160 He leaned over.

00:14:17.040 He came up to her for him to have another go at her. 1.00

00:14:20.500 He went to her.

00:14:22.380 He obviously wasn't scared of her, but he wasn't ignoring her either.

00:14:27.960 He went up to her to humiliate her a bit, to quarrel with her a bit.

00:14:32.900 So he wasn't scared of her, and she wasn't scary.

00:14:35.260 And he's the one who insulted her, saying she does not belong in Quebec.

00:14:40.400 You heard him say that.

00:14:43.080 And so the RCMP pull her away?

00:14:46.760 Why?

00:14:47.620 Trudeau came towards her to finish their quarrel.

00:14:53.080 But now, to hurt her like that, to bend her wrist like that, for what?

00:14:59.100 Watch some more.

00:14:59.780 OK.

00:15:00.340 So I don't know if you noticed it, but a second ender cop,

00:15:30.340 the undercover cop, comes over.

00:15:31.980 But really, why does she have to go with them?

00:15:35.520 Trudeau has left.

00:15:36.480 He bravely came up to her, called her some names.

00:15:38.860 She didn't call him names.

00:15:39.960 In fact, she's calling him Mr. Trudeau now.

00:15:42.260 He called her names.

00:15:44.100 But they're handling her, bruising her.

00:15:46.760 She says, I don't know if she's telling the truth about being bruised,

00:15:49.340 but it sure didn't look comfortable to have your wrist like that.

00:15:53.160 Trudeau has left.

00:15:54.260 And even if he hadn't, what had she done?

00:15:57.620 In fact, it wasn't Trudeau who came over to her.

00:16:00.340 Keep rolling the tape.

00:16:01.580 Tu m'as fait un bleu?

00:16:03.100 Regarde!

00:16:03.580 Qu'est-ce que je fais?

00:16:07.520 Ben, j'ai juste dit à M. Trudeau, j'ai posé des questions à M. Trudeau.

00:16:11.180 C'est bon?

00:16:12.580 A douleur sur l'opinion.

00:16:14.580 J'ai douleur sur l'opinion, puis je suis pas obligé de t'arrêter quand je lui demandais des questions.

00:16:19.760 Je suis en train de faire raison.

00:16:20.980 C'est ça.

00:16:22.020 Et vous me questionz, savez-vous?

00:16:23.480 Non, j'en ai pas, lâche-moi.

00:16:24.940 C'est quoi votre nom?

00:16:26.680 Je ne saura pas.

00:16:28.140 Je ne suis pas ici, madame.

00:16:29.100 She's not done, really?

00:16:43.480 And what more will he do to her?

00:16:46.820 And on what basis will he do it?

00:16:49.820 Has she been depersoned yet by Trudeau, fired from her job,

00:16:54.960 though I sense she's probably retired, humiliated in public?

00:16:57.460 Oh, that will come soon enough.

00:16:59.940 On what grounds would the police not be done with her yet?

00:17:05.740 You know, the police in Quebec know how to be very hospitable,

00:17:09.200 super friendly, very accommodating to foreign illegal immigrants breaking the law. 0.57

00:17:15.200 Then the police are positively bellhops, carrying luggage, fetching them lunch.

00:17:21.100 But they're illegal immigrants. 0.96

00:17:23.040 This woman is much worse. 1.00

00:17:24.200 She's an old-stock Quebecer, asking about illegal immigrants, 0.77

00:17:28.080 and Trudeau says she doesn't belong in the province.

00:17:32.000 So the police aren't done with her yet.

00:17:34.120 Two of them now.

00:17:35.480 Trudeau's long gone.

00:17:36.660 He's in his bulletproof limo.

00:17:38.020 He's gone back to another personal day or whatever.

00:17:40.140 But this woman's not free to go yet. 1.00

00:17:43.640 But watch this next part.

00:17:44.880 It's classic.

00:17:46.220 It's amazing, actually.

00:17:47.720 Take a look.

00:17:48.160 Non, mais moi, j'ai fini quand tu m'as fait mal.

00:17:50.860 Hey! 0.99

00:17:51.540 Tu m'as fait mal!

00:17:52.980 Garde le bleu que tu m'as fait.

00:17:55.080 Regarde!

00:17:55.900 Tiens, qui va te poser?

00:17:57.040 Garde le bleu que tu m'as fait.

00:17:58.260 OK, madame.

00:17:58.820 Là, vous allez juste écouter.

00:18:00.200 Non, je sais pas.

00:18:01.140 Ce monsieur-là aussi.

00:18:02.420 Madame?

00:18:04.620 Vous sommes témoins de liberté d'expression au Québec?

00:18:08.040 Oui! 0.90

00:18:08.540 Tu vois, je connais pas.

00:18:11.040 J'avais le droit de mettre l'expression à M. Trudeau,

00:18:13.400 puis il nous très bien tolérant.

00:18:14.760 C'est lui qui est intolérant avec les Québécois de source.

00:18:17.160 Non, c'est hysterique, c'est une femme.

00:18:22.340 Un gars qui dit qu'elle a une opinion, lui, il y a des couilles.

00:18:25.520 Une femme qui dit son opinion est hysterique. 1.00

00:18:27.980 Laisse me dire.

00:18:30.880 Oh, you're hysterical, lady. 1.00

00:18:33.240 You're mad.

00:18:34.480 Isn't she great? 1.00

00:18:35.540 She says, no, if I were a man, you'd say I had balls. 0.98

00:18:39.420 But again, really, who was hysterical? 0.99

00:18:42.320 This woman or Trudeau?

00:18:43.680 They both shouted, but only Trudeau called her names.

00:18:47.160 Six times?

00:18:49.200 They both exercised their freedom of speech,

00:18:51.540 but only Trudeau's bodyguards thought that a physical altercation was necessary.

00:18:57.320 And if someone did that to my arm because I dared to question the precious one,

00:19:02.560 I'd probably be more hysterical than she was.

00:19:06.000 That's it.

00:19:07.100 She leaves after that.

00:19:07.980 The tape ends in about 10 more seconds.

00:19:10.200 Hey, did you see any of the footage I just showed you on TV?

00:19:14.120 I understand that CTV actually played a brief clip of her hollering at the PM,

00:19:18.760 but did you see on TV him insulting her six times, calling her racist, calling her intolerant,

00:19:25.100 and saying she has no place in Quebec?

00:19:30.220 But more to the point, did you see him going over to her afterwards to grind her face in it,

00:19:35.020 to really rub it in her face?

00:19:37.360 She was intolerant that there's no place in this country for her.

00:19:39.920 No, you did not see that on CTV or CBC, at least not as of the moment I'm recording this.

00:19:45.240 And you did not see the clip of the bodyguards bending her wrist,

00:19:48.480 roughing her up just a little bit, just enough to leave a mark,

00:19:52.100 even just for a few minutes on her arm,

00:19:53.860 and just enough to psychologically mark her,

00:19:57.080 so that she knows if she does it again, she'll be hurt,

00:20:00.320 maybe hurt much worse.

00:20:01.860 Did you see that on the media party TV stations?

00:20:05.200 No, you did not.

00:20:07.380 Four times Justin Trudeau said she was intolerant.

00:20:10.340 Two times said she was racist.

00:20:11.820 No place here.

00:20:14.040 Twice to be called racist.

00:20:16.100 No place in Quebec.

00:20:19.080 That's six insults to her for asking a question, 0.85

00:20:21.760 for daring to ask about the number one issue in Quebec today.

00:20:25.980 That's not insignificant to note the liberal partisan

00:20:29.360 who falsely accused her of making threats.

00:20:32.060 Remember earlier in the video,

00:20:34.200 falsely accusing her of making threats.

00:20:35.780 You saw it was false.

00:20:37.240 And of course, it is important to note the bodyguards

00:20:39.760 who she did not make any threats.

00:20:42.260 They were treating her as if she did.

00:20:45.300 Did you see this comedy headline over the weekend?

00:20:49.140 Trudeau says 2019 election is fight against polarization.

00:20:53.080 And then says liberals want positive politics.

00:20:56.560 Conservatives reject.

00:20:57.620 Imagine being a reporter,

00:21:00.580 watching Trudeau insult this woman six times,

00:21:03.060 and then writing that absurd headline.

00:21:05.500 Trudeau wants a healing, positive country,

00:21:08.280 unlike those evil conservatives.

00:21:10.540 This, my friends, is what we're in for

00:21:13.200 for the next 12 months.

00:21:16.140 You are that grandma.

00:21:18.960 If you dare to ask any questions,

00:21:21.620 however nicely or however loudly,

00:21:23.400 you will be called intolerant and racist

00:21:27.660 and that you have no place in this country.

00:21:30.640 Not the place that illegal immigrants have, 1.00

00:21:33.000 that's for sure.

00:21:34.760 And the media party,

00:21:35.860 they will cheer along with your denunciation.

00:21:39.220 Say, what do you think the media party would have done

00:21:41.600 if it were Stephen Harper who had smeared

00:21:44.880 a liberal citizen six times in two minutes

00:21:47.520 as a bigot merely for asking a question

00:21:49.340 about government spending?

00:21:51.960 And if Harper had literally walked up 0.97

00:21:53.700 to that grandma afterwards

00:21:54.740 to pick a fight some more,

00:21:56.500 and then if Harper's bodyguards

00:21:58.080 would have bent a grandma's wrist 0.99

00:21:59.940 just to teach her a little lesson?

00:22:03.180 Yeah, it would be crisis-style coverage

00:22:04.800 for a week.

00:22:06.520 But for Trudeau,

00:22:07.340 well, the media knows its job.

00:22:09.620 Ignore this story

00:22:10.520 or denounce the woman as a bigot, too. 0.96

00:22:12.900 I wonder how Andrew Scheer's going to fare

00:22:16.280 in a battle like this.

00:22:18.460 Stay with us for more.

00:22:36.100 Welcome back.

00:22:36.940 Well, I think the key issue of our age

00:22:39.300 is internet censorship.

00:22:40.900 That censorship,

00:22:41.820 I wouldn't have said anything so obscure

00:22:44.600 just a few years ago,

00:22:46.600 but censorship did not rear its ugly head

00:22:49.620 until more recently,

00:22:50.720 and it's become increasingly politicized

00:22:53.780 and weaponized

00:22:54.820 against a particular point of view,

00:22:57.160 namely conservatives.

00:22:58.200 It's gotten so bad

00:22:59.380 that President Donald Trump himself

00:23:01.640 weighed in on the matter over the weekend

00:23:03.240 in a series of three tweets.

00:23:05.360 Let me read them to you.

00:23:07.520 Social media is totally discriminating

00:23:09.820 against Republican conservative voices.

00:23:12.260 Speaking loudly and clearly

00:23:13.540 for the Trump administration,

00:23:14.860 we won't let that happen.

00:23:16.840 They are closing down the opinions

00:23:18.180 of many people on the right

00:23:19.340 while at the same time

00:23:20.420 doing nothing to others.

00:23:22.560 And the next one,

00:23:23.900 censorship is a very dangerous thing

00:23:25.780 and absolutely impossible to police.

00:23:28.740 If you are weeding out fake news,

00:23:30.460 there is nothing so fake

00:23:31.420 as CNN and MSNBC.

00:23:32.860 And yet I do not ask 0.72

00:23:35.120 that their sick behavior be removed.

00:23:37.300 I get used to it

00:23:38.160 and watch with a grain of salt

00:23:39.380 or don't watch at all.

00:23:40.920 And last one,

00:23:42.720 too many voices are being destroyed,

00:23:44.580 some good and some bad,

00:23:45.700 and that cannot be allowed to happen.

00:23:47.500 Who is making the choices?

00:23:48.660 Because I can already tell you

00:23:50.120 that too many mistakes are being made.

00:23:52.420 Let everybody participate,

00:23:54.060 good and bad,

00:23:54.800 and we will all just have to figure it out.

00:23:57.600 I think that's actually

00:23:58.400 a fairly thoughtful intervention,

00:23:59.940 appealing to our better nature,

00:24:02.680 calling for freedom of speech

00:24:03.880 even for views

00:24:04.620 he doesn't himself support,

00:24:06.480 and pointing out

00:24:07.380 that one man's fake news

00:24:08.580 is another man's CNN,

00:24:10.500 and he's fine with that.

00:24:11.620 He's never called for CNN

00:24:12.780 to be banned

00:24:13.500 despite their squawking.

00:24:15.400 What exactly is he referring to?

00:24:17.980 Well, one case that fits the bill

00:24:20.000 is that of our friend Robert Spencer,

00:24:22.040 the boss of Jihad Watch,

00:24:23.540 who suddenly and without notice

00:24:25.320 was informed

00:24:26.880 that his Patreon account,

00:24:28.960 which is not only

00:24:30.300 a source of funding

00:24:31.740 but an online communications tool,

00:24:34.140 was being suspended.

00:24:37.020 He suddenly saw this

00:24:39.580 when he went to log in.

00:24:40.360 Your account has been disabled.

00:24:41.780 If you believe this is an error,

00:24:42.900 please visit our help center.

00:24:44.580 And they actually sent him

00:24:45.660 an email.

00:24:47.400 Put that up on the screen.

00:24:49.880 Hi, Robert.

00:24:50.340 My name is April,

00:24:51.020 and I'm on the trust and safety team

00:24:52.780 here at Patreon.

00:24:54.000 I've been notified by MasterCard

00:24:55.740 that we must remove your account

00:24:58.320 from Patreon

00:24:59.020 effective immediately.

00:25:02.200 MasterCard has a stricter set

00:25:03.360 of rules and regulations

00:25:04.160 than Patreon,

00:25:05.040 and they reserve the right

00:25:05.940 to not offer their services

00:25:07.400 to accounts of their choosing.

00:25:09.940 They announced that they will

00:25:11.140 pay out Robert,

00:25:12.280 the final amount there,

00:25:13.740 and they just shut him down.

00:25:15.580 No appeal, no nothing.

00:25:17.480 And joining us now via Skype

00:25:18.640 is our friend,

00:25:20.180 Robert Spencer.

00:25:20.760 Robert, welcome back to the show.

00:25:22.760 Always great to be here, Ezra.

00:25:23.920 Thank you.

00:25:24.520 You know, it's not just

00:25:25.200 the censorship of your voice.

00:25:26.480 That's one thing.

00:25:27.680 But they're actually banning you

00:25:29.840 from banking.

00:25:31.400 I've never heard of a credit card

00:25:33.080 company banning someone

00:25:35.840 from having a credit card

00:25:37.160 or using a credit card

00:25:38.300 for reasons other than fraud.

00:25:41.820 Yeah.

00:25:42.060 And here it's a political ban

00:25:44.280 from a bank.

00:25:45.740 Yeah.

00:25:46.120 There's no doubt about it.

00:25:47.480 They won't give a reason.

00:25:48.540 I repeatedly asked Patreon,

00:25:50.580 why?

00:25:51.020 What rule did I break?

00:25:52.020 What guideline did I transgress?

00:25:54.100 Nothing.

00:25:54.920 And then Breitbart

00:25:56.320 went to MasterCard

00:25:57.600 and MasterCard actually told them

00:25:58.920 that it was because

00:25:59.800 I had illegal content

00:26:01.440 on my website.

00:26:03.920 Illegal content?

00:26:05.020 I didn't know MasterCard

00:26:06.140 had a court

00:26:08.160 that they could determine

00:26:09.200 what content is illegal or not.

00:26:10.780 And I didn't know

00:26:11.900 that that was MasterCard's business.

00:26:13.660 That is so bizarre.

00:26:16.400 It is.

00:26:16.780 I have 60,000 posts

00:26:18.960 on Jihad Watch.

00:26:20.140 It's news and commentary

00:26:21.060 going back to 2003.

00:26:22.760 There's not a shred of illegality

00:26:24.220 about any of it

00:26:25.120 unless, of course,

00:26:26.020 you're talking about

00:26:26.700 from the standpoint

00:26:27.520 of Islamic law.

00:26:28.680 Then there's plenty

00:26:29.300 that's illegal

00:26:29.840 because criticism of Islam

00:26:31.300 and Jihad terror 0.52

00:26:32.380 is forbidden in Islam.

00:26:34.860 Well, that's a good point.

00:26:35.500 If you were based in Turkey

00:26:36.560 or Saudi Arabia

00:26:38.020 or Iran...

00:26:39.120 That's plenty illegal.

00:26:40.560 And, you know,

00:26:41.680 the Bank of Riyadh said

00:26:43.480 you're breaking our rules.

00:26:45.040 You would probably be able

00:26:45.980 to guess what they're talking about.

00:26:47.000 But MasterCard,

00:26:48.120 if I'm not mistaken,

00:26:49.120 is headquartered

00:26:49.760 in the United States.

00:26:51.460 As far as I know, yes.

00:26:52.700 But I understand

00:26:53.680 that they do have

00:26:54.440 extensive holdings

00:26:55.440 in the Middle East.

00:26:56.500 And so it did occur to me,

00:26:57.900 and of course,

00:26:58.400 they're not talking,

00:26:59.500 at least so far,

00:27:00.720 but it did occur to me

00:27:02.100 that this may actually be

00:27:03.640 a Sharia decision,

00:27:05.360 a decision based on,

00:27:06.480 excuse me,

00:27:07.280 on Islamic law,

00:27:08.220 because they may want

00:27:09.840 to not offend

00:27:10.640 their business partners

00:27:12.340 in Middle Eastern countries.

00:27:14.520 Now, I've heard of Patreon.

00:27:16.520 I mean, Patreon is

00:27:17.760 an interesting social media service.

00:27:20.140 We don't really use it

00:27:20.940 here at The Rebel.

00:27:21.960 It's a way that people

00:27:23.020 can show their content.

00:27:24.860 And as you can see

00:27:25.440 in the name Patreon

00:27:26.380 to patrons.

00:27:28.060 We use PayPal.

00:27:29.640 We crowdfund,

00:27:30.640 and people chip in

00:27:31.360 through PayPal.

00:27:31.880 But Patreon was really built

00:27:33.520 for artists,

00:27:35.280 people who weren't getting

00:27:36.400 a lot of money

00:27:36.900 from YouTube.

00:27:38.060 So it was a system

00:27:39.360 where they could let

00:27:40.260 only their patrons

00:27:41.800 get the first view

00:27:43.340 or a sneak preview.

00:27:44.280 It's a great system.

00:27:46.160 Obviously, you signed up

00:27:47.380 for Patreon for your work,

00:27:51.060 a way for your grassroots viewers

00:27:52.880 to support you.

00:27:54.040 If someone doesn't want

00:27:55.340 to support you,

00:27:55.960 they don't have to support you.

00:27:57.140 It's bizarre to me

00:27:58.060 that a company would stop

00:28:00.160 a lawful,

00:28:01.460 you know,

00:28:02.720 commercial transaction

00:28:04.220 between you

00:28:05.260 and your consenting supporters.

00:28:07.860 It's bizarre

00:28:08.980 that anyone could object

00:28:10.040 to a happy legal act

00:28:13.000 of commerce like that.

00:28:14.560 Yeah, it's bizarre, Ezra,

00:28:15.780 because that's what they're

00:28:17.000 in the business of offering.

00:28:18.560 And so if they stop offering it

00:28:20.000 on the basis of disliking

00:28:21.280 people's political views,

00:28:22.880 well, obviously,

00:28:23.460 the question next is,

00:28:24.680 where does it stop?

00:28:25.740 And you're right.

00:28:26.580 You know, people,

00:28:27.340 I sometimes hear about

00:28:28.500 people's YouTube videos

00:28:29.920 being demonetized,

00:28:31.600 and I always laugh

00:28:32.360 because I was demonetized

00:28:34.140 before they were monetized.

00:28:35.360 They never have allowed me

00:28:38.080 to earn any money on YouTube.

00:28:40.600 All my videos there

00:28:41.720 are for free.

00:28:43.080 And as it happened,

00:28:43.860 I came into the possession

00:28:44.800 of an old TV studio,

00:28:46.360 thought I would fix it up,

00:28:47.440 and went to Patreon

00:28:48.380 to raise money to do this.

00:28:50.060 And as you say,

00:28:50.820 everybody who signed up

00:28:52.160 to help

00:28:52.620 was somebody

00:28:53.360 who already likes my work

00:28:54.840 and was doing it

00:28:55.720 voluntarily.

00:28:57.200 So the idea

00:28:58.060 that Patreon or MasterCard

00:28:59.600 would object to this

00:29:00.580 is obviously clear,

00:29:02.400 just viewpoint censorship,

00:29:03.560 which is supposed to be illegal

00:29:05.560 in the United States.

00:29:06.900 Well, that's interesting

00:29:07.740 because about a year ago,

00:29:09.820 we had a cruise booked

00:29:11.660 with Norwegian Cruise Line.

00:29:13.580 And without notice,

00:29:14.840 warning, or appeal,

00:29:15.820 they just said,

00:29:16.720 no, we're not having you on there.

00:29:18.280 And it was clear

00:29:19.180 that they were pressured

00:29:20.160 by a group

00:29:21.120 that was taking credit for it,

00:29:22.580 a Soros-backed group

00:29:23.760 in the United Kingdom

00:29:24.480 called Hope Not Hate.

00:29:26.000 Now, we returned a lawyer

00:29:26.980 to look into this,

00:29:27.980 and the lawyer reviewed

00:29:28.760 our contract

00:29:29.320 with the cruise line

00:29:30.380 and came back and said,

00:29:32.620 the terms of service

00:29:33.340 are so one-sided,

00:29:34.460 you really don't have a case.

00:29:35.860 And we didn't want

00:29:36.460 to waste the money trying.

00:29:38.840 But it would seem to me

00:29:40.120 that if MasterCard is saying,

00:29:42.680 I mean, we weren't

00:29:43.500 really told anything.

00:29:44.840 They just dropped us.

00:29:46.900 But if you have actually

00:29:48.040 been told

00:29:48.800 that you are breaking the law,

00:29:51.540 but no court has said so,

00:29:54.160 it sounds to me,

00:29:55.900 I'm not going to say

00:29:56.740 you have a defamation case,

00:29:57.860 but you may have some case

00:29:59.520 and to be able to smoke out

00:30:00.900 from Patreon or MasterCard

00:30:03.900 what basis it was

00:30:06.140 for them to do this to you.

00:30:07.180 And the reason

00:30:07.500 I'm going down this road,

00:30:08.680 just bear with me

00:30:09.160 for one more minute,

00:30:10.080 is because a few months ago,

00:30:12.360 the Southern Poverty Law Center,

00:30:15.300 which is a left-wing smear group,

00:30:18.220 they smear everyone

00:30:18.860 they don't like as racist,

00:30:20.680 they went after someone

00:30:22.000 in London named Majid Nawaz,

00:30:24.520 who is the head

00:30:26.280 of the Quilliam Foundation,

00:30:27.440 and he says

00:30:28.160 he's a progressive Muslim

00:30:29.560 for moderation

00:30:31.020 and against extremism.

00:30:32.900 And I'm not going to ask you

00:30:33.940 for your view on him

00:30:34.820 because that's not relevant.

00:30:35.720 I'm just saying

00:30:36.120 that's who he is.

00:30:37.620 And I've been following him

00:30:38.940 fairly closely

00:30:39.560 and I like some of the work he does.

00:30:42.380 He sued

00:30:44.120 the Southern Poverty Law Center

00:30:46.620 and before it even went to court,

00:30:48.560 in fact,

00:30:49.000 before I think,

00:30:50.120 I don't even know

00:30:50.900 if he actually filed a claim,

00:30:53.400 they settled with him

00:30:54.500 for more than $3 million

00:30:55.660 and gave him

00:30:57.300 an amazing

00:30:58.640 videotaped apology

00:31:01.020 spoken by no one

00:31:02.260 less than their boss.

00:31:03.940 And so that's a very long preamble,

00:31:05.580 but my question to you is,

00:31:07.880 would you consider suing

00:31:09.840 Patreon and particularly MasterCard,

00:31:13.160 not just to be reinstated,

00:31:15.880 but so that the lawsuit

00:31:16.860 could flush out

00:31:18.040 who the hidden hand was

00:31:19.900 that was blackballing you 0.80

00:31:21.660 and that perhaps

00:31:23.020 they would restore your account

00:31:24.780 and maybe even so.

00:31:25.600 They gave Majid Nawaz

00:31:26.740 more than $3 million.

00:31:28.300 Would you consider suing?

00:31:30.300 Oh, absolutely, Ezra.

00:31:31.940 And as a matter of fact,

00:31:32.940 there is a letter

00:31:33.940 that is going,

00:31:34.980 I think today,

00:31:36.080 from an attorney

00:31:36.900 to MasterCard

00:31:37.800 and so we'll see

00:31:38.580 how that develops.

00:31:39.740 I do suspect

00:31:40.580 that the palsied hand

00:31:41.640 of the Southern Poverty Law Center

00:31:42.860 is behind this.

00:31:44.120 I'm on that same

00:31:44.980 anti-Muslim extremist list

00:31:46.600 that Majid Nawaz was on.

00:31:48.400 I had contacted lawyers

00:31:50.260 to try to attempt

00:31:51.280 to sue the Southern Poverty Law Center

00:31:52.740 myself,

00:31:53.680 but they have explained to me

00:31:55.060 that he had the benefit

00:31:56.280 of UK libel laws,

00:31:59.440 which favor the plaintiff,

00:32:01.240 whereas US libel laws

00:32:03.000 favor the defendant.

00:32:04.460 And so nobody so far

00:32:05.660 has been willing

00:32:06.200 to take the case,

00:32:07.080 but I'm still trying

00:32:07.960 and still hoping

00:32:08.960 to find somebody.

00:32:10.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center,

00:32:11.320 as you say,

00:32:11.900 they just try to destroy

00:32:13.660 people whose views

00:32:15.080 they dislike.

00:32:15.680 And if people don't stand

00:32:18.160 up to this group,

00:32:19.240 it's going to get

00:32:19.780 a lot worse

00:32:20.420 in terms of freedom of speech

00:32:22.200 and the ability

00:32:23.400 for dissenters

00:32:24.780 from the leftist agenda

00:32:25.800 to be heard at all

00:32:27.280 in the West.

00:32:28.600 I'm not even saying

00:32:29.580 to sue them

00:32:30.040 for defamation.

00:32:32.460 I'm saying to sue them

00:32:33.580 for a breach of contract

00:32:34.740 or for some inducement

00:32:37.100 of breach of contract.

00:32:38.060 The fact that MasterCard

00:32:39.820 cut you off

00:32:40.780 and apparently claimed

00:32:42.740 you broke the law,

00:32:43.980 it's not even

00:32:44.640 the defamation

00:32:45.360 of their smear

00:32:46.920 that you broke the law.

00:32:47.820 It's that they thought

00:32:49.740 they had enough

00:32:50.340 to break off

00:32:51.280 a commercial deal

00:32:53.020 with you.

00:32:53.460 I think they would

00:32:54.900 be terrified

00:32:55.500 to have all their emails

00:32:57.240 and phone calls

00:32:58.360 and everything

00:32:58.940 brought out

00:32:59.860 into the light of day.

00:33:00.660 I really think

00:33:01.400 it's worth pursuing.

00:33:03.120 And Donald Trump,

00:33:04.280 I don't know

00:33:05.120 what you thought

00:33:05.580 about those three tweets

00:33:06.520 I read at the top

00:33:07.260 of our interview.

00:33:08.300 I think he tweets

00:33:10.660 if he's about to do

00:33:11.640 something more substantive.

00:33:12.780 He's starting to soften

00:33:14.260 up the ground

00:33:14.920 by talking about it.

00:33:16.240 I think that your suit

00:33:17.340 against MasterCard

00:33:18.260 is something

00:33:18.640 that you should really

00:33:19.580 look at seriously,

00:33:20.920 not from a defamation

00:33:21.640 point of view,

00:33:22.240 but to fight back.

00:33:23.540 If they can cut off

00:33:24.800 our banking

00:33:25.660 and our finances,

00:33:26.900 they can cut off

00:33:27.920 our entire project.

00:33:30.020 Yours,

00:33:30.380 ours,

00:33:30.660 everybody's.

00:33:31.840 Absolutely,

00:33:32.440 yes.

00:33:33.060 And you're absolutely right.

00:33:34.040 Yeah,

00:33:34.160 I couldn't agree more.

00:33:35.560 It's not solely defamation.

00:33:37.000 We're going after

00:33:37.700 the lawyer's letter.

00:33:38.840 I can't really talk

00:33:39.440 too much about it,

00:33:40.160 obviously,

00:33:40.540 but the lawyer's letter

00:33:41.300 essentially just tells them

00:33:43.160 to give a reason

00:33:43.840 or reinstate me.

00:33:45.440 And so we're going

00:33:46.140 to take it from there

00:33:46.940 depending on how

00:33:47.580 MasterCard responds.

00:33:48.920 Yeah.

00:33:49.360 I mean,

00:33:50.080 it's one thing

00:33:50.900 for the social media giants

00:33:52.260 to be regulated.

00:33:53.240 And as Donald Trump

00:33:54.260 suggests,

00:33:54.900 it's very careful

00:33:56.200 because you don't want

00:33:57.320 to step on the First Amendment.

00:33:58.420 But for a bank

00:33:59.380 to ban someone

00:34:01.460 from banking,

00:34:03.280 there's no First Amendment

00:34:04.860 that's going to protect

00:34:05.640 a bank

00:34:06.220 for blackballing someone.

00:34:08.120 I mean,

00:34:08.480 that's pure

00:34:10.040 lunch counter stuff,

00:34:11.220 back of the bus stuff.

00:34:12.900 Yes.

00:34:13.220 I really think

00:34:14.140 MasterCard's made a mistake here.

00:34:15.880 It'll be interesting

00:34:16.560 to see how stubborn they are.

00:34:18.800 Well,

00:34:19.020 listen,

00:34:19.420 you know what?

00:34:20.100 It's very interesting times.

00:34:21.520 Can you keep us posted?

00:34:22.540 I hear what you're saying.

00:34:23.280 You don't want to give away

00:34:24.060 privileged material

00:34:25.020 that your lawyer is doing,

00:34:26.340 but I really think

00:34:27.640 your case is interesting.

00:34:29.420 I really think it's dangerous

00:34:30.500 because it involves a bank.

00:34:31.880 When you have news,

00:34:33.240 can you share it with us

00:34:34.260 so we can keep

00:34:34.820 our viewers up to date?

00:34:36.240 Oh,

00:34:36.500 yeah,

00:34:36.720 absolutely.

00:34:37.180 And thank you

00:34:37.940 for your interest in the case.

00:34:39.000 I think,

00:34:39.520 obviously,

00:34:40.000 its implications

00:34:40.580 go far beyond me

00:34:41.820 and are very far-reaching.

00:34:43.540 Yeah,

00:34:43.860 I think so,

00:34:44.500 too.

00:34:44.740 Well,

00:34:44.940 listen,

00:34:45.200 it's nice to have you

00:34:45.740 on the show.

00:34:46.220 Stay strong.

00:34:46.900 Give us one minute

00:34:47.840 on how your book's doing.

00:34:49.080 Of course,

00:34:49.620 the history of jihad.

00:34:50.280 Yeah,

00:34:50.480 you know,

00:34:50.820 thanks,

00:34:52.400 Cesare.

00:34:52.680 You know,

00:34:52.880 I'm having a happy

00:34:53.480 problem with that.

00:34:54.600 The book,

00:34:55.260 The History of Jihad, 0.87

00:34:56.240 From Muhammad to ISIS, 1.00

00:34:57.640 it is doing so well,

00:34:58.840 as a matter of fact.

00:34:59.800 It hit number one

00:35:00.700 in six different

00:35:01.440 Amazon categories.

00:35:02.680 It's doing so much better

00:35:03.680 than anybody expected

00:35:04.660 that we've run out.

00:35:06.300 And so,

00:35:07.020 we are hurrying

00:35:08.720 a second printing now

00:35:09.820 and a third is in the works.

00:35:12.200 And so,

00:35:12.820 it's great demand for it.

00:35:14.800 It's been very well received

00:35:16.080 in initial reviews.

00:35:17.540 And so,

00:35:18.000 I'm very grateful

00:35:18.800 for all of that.

00:35:19.900 Well,

00:35:20.240 that's good to hear.

00:35:21.060 Hopefully,

00:35:21.320 we can get MasterCard

00:35:22.320 back on board

00:35:23.040 so you can sell

00:35:24.180 some books that way.

00:35:25.080 Nice to see you again,

00:35:25.860 Robert.

00:35:26.880 Likewise,

00:35:27.420 Ezra.

00:35:27.660 Thank you.

00:35:28.040 All right.

00:35:28.620 There you have it.

00:35:29.040 Robert Spencer,

00:35:29.800 he's the boss

00:35:30.520 of Jihad Watch,

00:35:32.040 the author of

00:35:32.760 The History of Jihad, 0.87

00:35:33.840 and of course,

00:35:34.580 he is the target

00:35:35.400 of Silicon Valley censorship.

00:35:38.620 Stay with us.

00:35:39.120 More ahead on.

00:35:51.200 Welcome back.

00:35:52.040 Well,

00:35:52.140 those of us in the West

00:35:53.200 who follow Islamic Jihad 0.94

00:35:55.780 are very cautious

00:35:57.200 about Muslim populations

00:35:58.800 and are very curious

00:36:00.520 about the nature

00:36:01.600 of the Jihad. 0.67

00:36:02.520 One country

00:36:03.280 that I think deserves

00:36:04.200 our observation

00:36:05.840 is China,

00:36:07.400 which has a large

00:36:08.260 Muslim minority.

00:36:10.660 And we have

00:36:11.300 the perfect article

00:36:12.180 to lead into

00:36:13.200 that discussion today.

00:36:14.260 It's titled

00:36:15.020 China's Peaceful Muslims

00:36:17.220 Fight Back.

00:36:18.220 And it's published

00:36:19.040 in the Epoch Times,

00:36:20.600 which is a newspaper

00:36:21.740 that focuses

00:36:22.500 on minorities in China,

00:36:24.220 especially the Falun Gong

00:36:25.320 religious minority.

00:36:26.920 And the author

00:36:27.920 of the piece

00:36:28.480 is an old friend

00:36:29.200 of ours,

00:36:29.700 Gordon Chang.

00:36:30.500 He's a writer

00:36:31.160 with the Daily Beast

00:36:32.020 and is the author

00:36:32.980 of the book

00:36:33.480 The Coming Collapse

00:36:34.700 of China.

00:36:35.340 And Gordon Chang

00:36:35.960 joins us now

00:36:36.900 via Skype.

00:36:37.360 Gordon,

00:36:37.520 it's great to see you again.

00:36:39.080 Tell us in what ways

00:36:40.820 the Chinese population

00:36:42.200 of China

00:36:42.980 is different,

00:36:44.020 say,

00:36:44.180 to the Chinese population

00:36:45.260 of Arabia

00:36:46.260 or even the expat

00:36:48.000 Muslim population

00:36:50.000 in Europe.

00:36:51.980 Yeah.

00:36:52.340 There are two large groups

00:36:53.440 of Muslims in China.

00:36:54.760 There are the Uyghurs 1.00

00:36:55.660 in northwest China

00:36:56.800 in Xinjiang,

00:36:57.940 and there are the Wei 0.93

00:36:59.080 who are further east.

00:37:01.160 And both of them

00:37:02.000 have been very peaceful people,

00:37:03.820 but they both

00:37:04.940 have actually been

00:37:06.120 motivated to activism

00:37:07.700 because of extremely

00:37:09.400 repressive actions

00:37:10.500 on the part

00:37:11.240 of the Beijing government,

00:37:12.920 part of the Communist Party,

00:37:14.180 which is trying

00:37:15.200 to assimilate them

00:37:16.680 and essentially 0.99

00:37:17.280 eliminate Islam 1.00

00:37:18.640 from China. 0.97

00:37:19.520 And of course,

00:37:20.740 this has triggered

00:37:21.840 a pushback

00:37:23.480 from both groups.

00:37:25.340 My piece,

00:37:26.500 which referred

00:37:27.380 to the Wei, 0.80

00:37:28.660 they are right now

00:37:30.420 in a struggle

00:37:31.060 to preserve a mosque

00:37:32.320 in a city called

00:37:33.240 Weizhou

00:37:33.800 in the Ningxia

00:37:34.740 Autonomous Region.

00:37:36.840 And this is

00:37:38.020 an important story

00:37:39.260 in the sense

00:37:39.880 that these

00:37:40.920 Wei 0.82

00:37:41.620 would never think

00:37:43.380 of opposing Beijing,

00:37:45.340 but they're doing so now

00:37:46.580 because they're trying

00:37:47.360 to preserve

00:37:47.820 their way of life.

00:37:48.760 You know,

00:37:50.240 I visited that province

00:37:52.020 of Xinjiang

00:37:52.740 about 10 years ago

00:37:53.900 and it was interesting

00:37:55.000 to see the Chinese

00:37:56.040 Communist Party's

00:37:57.620 attempt to put

00:37:59.000 the ethnic diversity

00:38:00.480 in a museum.

00:38:01.420 In fact,

00:38:01.720 they had such a museum,

00:38:03.480 the different costumes

00:38:04.820 and the different stories

00:38:05.820 and the end

00:38:07.220 of the narrative

00:38:07.860 in the museum

00:38:08.520 was we're all

00:38:09.240 happy communists now.

00:38:10.880 It's like they wanted

00:38:11.560 to take the specialness

00:38:12.800 of Xinjiang

00:38:14.220 and sort of put it

00:38:15.020 in a box

00:38:15.540 and that's it.

00:38:17.320 My own sense,

00:38:18.600 and I was only

00:38:19.180 there as a tourist

00:38:19.880 and of course

00:38:20.320 I don't have

00:38:20.740 the language facility

00:38:21.580 and I was only

00:38:22.080 there briefly,

00:38:23.040 was that it was

00:38:23.600 the mildest form

00:38:24.600 of Islam

00:38:24.980 I've ever observed.

00:38:26.620 I didn't see

00:38:27.380 any niqabs there. 1.00

00:38:29.000 There was,

00:38:30.100 I felt no tension

00:38:31.200 whatsoever

00:38:31.660 and it actually

00:38:32.620 felt very gentle,

00:38:35.360 in some ways

00:38:35.820 more gentle

00:38:36.380 than the bustling

00:38:37.760 parts of China

00:38:38.440 like Shanghai

00:38:39.240 or Beijing.

00:38:39.700 that's just

00:38:40.060 my own anecdote

00:38:40.760 but how much

00:38:43.340 paranoia

00:38:44.540 can China

00:38:45.940 be allowed

00:38:46.920 given

00:38:47.760 the global

00:38:50.320 ambitions

00:38:51.020 of ISIS

00:38:52.400 or even

00:38:53.280 Saudi Arabia

00:38:54.080 and Iran

00:38:54.580 to sort of

00:38:55.420 evangelize Muslims

00:38:56.660 to make them

00:38:57.200 more activist.

00:38:58.200 Is there

00:38:58.740 a proper place

00:39:00.220 for China

00:39:00.680 to be a little

00:39:01.660 bit worried

00:39:02.260 about outside

00:39:03.700 influences

00:39:04.220 that would

00:39:04.780 radicalize

00:39:05.660 Chinese Muslims?

00:39:06.320 Well, yeah,

00:39:08.120 of course

00:39:08.640 there is reason

00:39:09.360 to be concerned

00:39:10.100 but really

00:39:11.660 when we look

00:39:12.220 at radicalism

00:39:13.120 in both Ningxia

00:39:14.500 and in Xinjiang

00:39:17.180 because most

00:39:18.400 of it's in Xinjiang

00:39:19.120 it's really

00:39:20.060 because it's

00:39:20.680 a reaction

00:39:21.220 to what

00:39:21.960 the Chinese

00:39:22.480 government

00:39:22.820 has tried

00:39:23.260 to do

00:39:23.700 and in Xinjiang

00:39:24.680 you have

00:39:25.520 what really

00:39:26.080 constitutes

00:39:26.760 a crime

00:39:27.160 against humanity

00:39:27.960 about 10%

00:39:29.200 of the population

00:39:30.140 about a million

00:39:31.340 people

00:39:31.940 have been put

00:39:32.980 into internment

00:39:34.020 camps

00:39:34.400 which are called

00:39:35.040 re-education

00:39:35.760 centers

00:39:36.200 and they're

00:39:36.940 being put

00:39:37.420 there largely

00:39:38.180 because of

00:39:38.800 their religion

00:39:39.420 they're being

00:39:40.860 cut off

00:39:41.460 some people

00:39:42.100 have been

00:39:42.460 dying

00:39:42.820 in those 0.97

00:39:43.260 camps

00:39:43.640 and this

00:39:44.960 is one

00:39:45.560 of the most

00:39:45.920 horrific

00:39:46.340 human rights

00:39:47.060 abuses

00:39:47.460 in the world

00:39:48.020 today

00:39:48.480 fortunately

00:39:50.080 now people

00:39:50.920 are starting

00:39:51.360 to pay

00:39:51.680 attention

00:39:52.080 to it

00:39:52.680 Gordon

00:39:53.540 I was reading

00:39:54.020 in your article

00:39:54.740 about some

00:39:55.720 internment

00:39:57.040 camps

00:39:57.420 that you've

00:39:57.820 been suggesting

00:39:58.700 where these

00:39:59.540 Uyghur Muslims

00:40:00.100 are forced

00:40:00.980 positively

00:40:02.100 forced

00:40:02.620 to eat

00:40:03.120 pork

00:40:03.620 and things

00:40:04.420 like that

00:40:04.900 in violation

00:40:05.620 of their

00:40:06.400 religion

00:40:06.760 and that

00:40:07.420 does sound

00:40:08.040 like the

00:40:08.340 kind of

00:40:08.720 thing

00:40:08.940 that would

00:40:09.340 maybe stir

00:40:10.680 within the

00:40:11.780 heart

00:40:12.060 of a

00:40:12.720 calm

00:40:13.580 pacified

00:40:14.260 Muslim

00:40:14.640 community

00:40:15.120 a kind

00:40:15.940 of resistance

00:40:16.640 like a

00:40:17.080 martyrdom

00:40:17.700 it sounds

00:40:19.280 bizarre

00:40:19.840 and punitive

00:40:21.200 and inflammatory

00:40:23.020 does China

00:40:24.360 does China

00:40:24.380 not sense

00:40:25.080 that maybe

00:40:25.460 they're

00:40:25.760 provoking

00:40:26.500 the monster

00:40:28.380 that was

00:40:28.840 never there

00:40:29.340 they're creating

00:40:30.040 a problem

00:40:30.540 that wasn't

00:40:31.540 there

00:40:31.840 you know

00:40:33.540 you'd like

00:40:33.920 to think

00:40:34.280 that there

00:40:34.620 was self

00:40:35.060 awareness

00:40:35.400 on the part

00:40:36.060 of religion

00:40:36.940 officials

00:40:37.440 in Beijing

00:40:37.980 but they've

00:40:39.020 been pursuing

00:40:40.100 these policies

00:40:40.880 in Xinjiang

00:40:41.560 for quite

00:40:42.120 some time

00:40:42.760 and so

00:40:43.580 they have

00:40:44.200 been forcing 0.64

00:40:44.820 Muslims 0.64

00:40:45.240 to eat 0.98

00:40:45.720 pork

00:40:46.080 they've

00:40:46.620 been forcing

00:40:47.060 them to

00:40:47.480 break

00:40:47.800 Ramadan

00:40:48.280 traditions

00:40:48.920 they've

00:40:49.860 forced

00:40:50.180 shaving

00:40:50.680 of

00:40:50.980 beards

00:40:51.440 children

00:40:52.080 are not

00:40:52.580 allowed

00:40:52.920 religious

00:40:53.380 instruction

00:40:54.000 they've

00:40:54.740 destroyed

00:40:55.120 mosques

00:40:55.780 and now

00:40:56.300 they've

00:40:56.500 got these

00:40:56.880 internment

00:40:57.380 camps

00:40:57.740 which are

00:40:58.140 just

00:40:58.400 horrific

00:40:58.860 so at

00:40:59.960 this time

00:41:00.520 you'd have

00:41:01.340 to believe

00:41:02.360 that although

00:41:03.180 that they

00:41:03.780 understand

00:41:04.440 that they

00:41:04.880 might be

00:41:05.720 triggering

00:41:06.440 retaliation

00:41:07.500 they nonetheless

00:41:08.300 believe that

00:41:08.980 this is the

00:41:09.540 correct policy

00:41:10.360 and that's

00:41:11.400 why this

00:41:11.880 story about

00:41:12.980 the internment

00:41:13.620 camps is so

00:41:14.440 important

00:41:14.920 one last

00:41:16.220 question for

00:41:16.680 you

00:41:16.800 what are the

00:41:18.180 interesting

00:41:18.740 characteristics

00:41:19.360 of the

00:41:19.840 ISIS

00:41:20.200 terrorists

00:41:20.880 were how

00:41:21.920 international

00:41:22.720 they were

00:41:23.340 you had

00:41:23.740 people coming

00:41:24.980 from Germany

00:41:25.560 from France

00:41:26.100 even from

00:41:26.660 Canada

00:41:27.100 and I saw

00:41:28.200 that there

00:41:28.540 were Chechen 0.99

00:41:29.840 Muslims

00:41:31.020 who went

00:41:31.660 to join

00:41:33.320 ISIS

00:41:33.640 are you aware

00:41:34.900 of any

00:41:35.500 Chinese Muslims

00:41:37.080 that went

00:41:37.560 to join ISIS 0.76

00:41:38.320 well there's

00:41:40.280 some Uyghurs 1.00

00:41:41.000 who have gone

00:41:41.680 to the Middle

00:41:42.180 East I don't 0.95

00:41:42.760 know if they've

00:41:43.300 gone to ISIS

00:41:44.020 but there

00:41:45.060 have been a

00:41:45.640 few there

00:41:46.240 and Beijing

00:41:47.340 is obviously

00:41:48.020 worried about

00:41:48.700 them coming

00:41:49.280 back to

00:41:50.120 China

00:41:50.560 but if you

00:41:51.880 go back

00:41:52.640 three decades

00:41:53.780 or so

00:41:54.720 Xinjiang

00:41:56.060 and Ningxia

00:41:57.060 were completely

00:41:57.760 peaceful

00:41:58.240 and really

00:41:59.980 what we've

00:42:00.740 seen is

00:42:01.660 activism

00:42:02.320 and sometimes

00:42:03.060 radicalism

00:42:03.900 which has been

00:42:04.760 the result

00:42:05.380 of a horrific

00:42:06.280 repression

00:42:06.880 campaign

00:42:07.520 so this is

00:42:08.360 something that

00:42:08.820 Beijing has

00:42:09.440 caused itself

00:42:10.400 well it's

00:42:11.820 very interesting

00:42:12.560 and we are

00:42:13.180 always on the

00:42:14.000 alert of

00:42:14.720 Islamic Jihad 0.79

00:42:16.160 and we're

00:42:16.720 always cautious

00:42:17.900 about that

00:42:18.440 but your

00:42:19.500 report in

00:42:20.240 the Epoch Times

00:42:20.800 which I

00:42:21.080 very much

00:42:21.600 recommend

00:42:21.940 I recommend

00:42:22.540 the Epoch Times

00:42:23.260 as a read

00:42:24.380 all the time

00:42:24.800 it's a good

00:42:25.180 counterpoint

00:42:26.000 to the

00:42:26.320 mainstream

00:42:26.680 but your

00:42:27.380 piece here

00:42:27.820 it's called

00:42:28.100 China's 0.76

00:42:28.520 peaceful

00:42:28.800 Muslims

00:42:29.160 fight back

00:42:29.660 that was

00:42:30.440 my own

00:42:30.840 observation

00:42:31.440 and

00:42:31.820 I had

00:42:34.080 this

00:42:34.900 passing

00:42:35.660 fancy

00:42:36.120 when I

00:42:36.440 was there

00:42:36.680 if only

00:42:37.100 that were

00:42:37.480 the template

00:42:38.080 for Islam

00:42:39.080 around the

00:42:39.560 world

00:42:39.840 it would

00:42:40.340 be

00:42:40.480 the world

00:42:41.680 itself

00:42:42.080 would be

00:42:42.440 more

00:42:42.740 harmonious

00:42:43.360 last word

00:42:43.960 to you

00:42:44.240 Gordon

00:42:44.460 yes

00:42:45.860 well that's

00:42:46.480 certainly

00:42:46.800 true

00:42:47.200 I mean

00:42:47.620 you look

00:42:47.940 at the

00:42:48.180 way

00:42:48.440 they've

00:42:48.740 been

00:42:48.880 completely

00:42:49.300 assimilated

00:42:49.920 into

00:42:50.180 Chinese

00:42:50.580 society

00:42:51.180 and

00:42:52.120 the only

00:42:52.620 reason

00:42:52.920 why

00:42:53.140 there's

00:42:53.420 activism

00:42:53.860 is

00:42:54.180 because

00:42:54.500 the

00:42:55.000 government

00:42:55.280 has

00:42:55.600 been

00:42:55.860 taking

00:42:56.220 mosques

00:42:56.680 and

00:42:56.940 destroying 0.99

00:42:57.720 them 0.94

00:42:58.020 and so

00:42:59.100 really

00:42:59.480 this is

00:43:00.120 at the

00:43:01.080 end

00:43:01.260 of the

00:43:01.500 day

00:43:01.780 something

00:43:02.540 that

00:43:02.840 Beijing

00:43:03.160 has

00:43:03.380 triggered

00:43:03.640 on its

00:43:04.020 own

00:43:04.320 well

00:43:05.500 thank

00:43:05.720 you

00:43:05.820 for

00:43:05.940 this

00:43:06.120 update

00:43:06.400 a

00:43:06.660 point

00:43:07.100 of

00:43:07.260 view

00:43:07.400 I'm

00:43:07.640 sure

00:43:07.820 most

00:43:08.080 of

00:43:08.220 our

00:43:08.320 viewers

00:43:08.580 have

00:43:08.720 not

00:43:08.940 heard

00:43:13.360 you

00:43:13.460 so

00:43:13.580 much

00:43:13.780 Ezra

00:43:14.080 all

00:43:14.420 right

00:43:14.560 there

00:43:14.700 you

00:43:14.800 have

00:43:14.940 it

00:43:15.040 Gordon

00:43:15.240 Chang 1.00

00:43:15.520 is a

00:43:16.120 writer

00:43:16.280 with

00:43:16.440 the

00:43:16.560 Daily

00:43:16.740 Beast

00:43:17.040 and

00:43:17.200 an

00:43:17.320 author

00:43:17.560 of

00:43:17.760 the

00:43:17.860 book

00:43:18.040 The

00:43:18.500 Coming

00:43:18.840 Collapse

00:43:19.540 of

00:43:19.680 China

00:43:19.940 Stay

00:43:20.440 with us

00:43:20.940 more

00:43:21.580 ahead

00:43:21.800 on

00:43:21.920 The

00:43:22.040 Rebel

00:43:22.240 Hey

00:43:34.060 welcome

00:43:34.260 back

00:43:34.520 on

00:43:34.620 my

00:43:34.740 monologue

00:43:35.080 Friday

00:43:35.440 about

00:43:35.660 Maxime

00:43:36.040 Bernier

00:43:36.380 fighting

00:43:36.720 back

00:43:37.000 against

00:43:37.280 Rosemary

00:43:37.700 Barton

00:43:38.040 and

00:43:38.180 fake

00:43:38.380 news

00:43:38.600 from

00:43:38.760 the

00:43:38.880 CBC

00:43:39.220 Angela

00:43:39.900 writes

00:43:40.380 I

00:43:41.320 agree

00:43:41.560 with

00:43:41.780 you

00:43:41.920 insofar

00:43:42.360 as

00:43:42.580 sheer

00:43:42.800 is

00:43:42.960 concerned

00:43:43.400 I

00:43:43.700 have

00:43:43.860 emailed

00:43:44.120 him

00:43:44.340 suggesting

00:43:44.780 that

00:43:45.160 he

00:43:45.240 get

00:43:45.340 a

00:43:45.440 backbone

00:43:45.880 and

00:43:46.220 start

00:43:46.420 challenging

00:43:46.860 the

00:43:47.080 mainstream

00:43:47.540 media

00:43:47.920 on

00:43:48.120 their

00:43:48.260 biased

00:43:48.600 reporting

00:43:49.140 it's

00:43:50.980 hard

00:43:51.260 to

00:43:51.560 have

00:43:51.980 someone

00:43:52.280 change

00:43:52.580 their

00:43:52.720 personality

00:43:53.260 people

00:43:54.060 can

00:43:54.280 grow

00:43:54.520 and

00:43:54.660 improve

00:43:54.920 their

00:43:55.060 job

00:43:55.300 I

00:43:55.420 mean

00:43:55.500 I

00:43:55.600 have

00:43:55.760 to

00:43:55.880 say

00:43:56.140 Justin

00:43:57.320 Trudeau

00:43:57.620 when he

00:43:57.840 was

00:43:57.960 first

00:43:58.200 elected

00:43:58.520 as

00:43:58.740 MP

00:43:59.000 to

00:43:59.340 Justin

00:43:59.940 Trudeau

00:44:00.240 by the

00:44:00.520 time

00:44:00.700 he

00:44:00.800 was

00:44:00.940 done

00:44:01.120 his

00:44:01.300 first

00:44:01.640 election

00:44:02.640 campaign

00:44:03.120 he

00:44:03.320 improved

00:44:03.700 markedly

00:44:04.360 it

00:44:05.420 is

00:44:05.560 possible

00:44:05.900 to

00:44:06.140 improve

00:44:06.640 but

00:44:07.500 to

00:44:07.780 find

00:44:08.240 a

00:44:08.680 courage

00:44:09.080 to

00:44:09.320 take

00:44:09.680 on

00:44:09.880 the

00:44:10.060 media

00:44:10.400 it's

00:44:11.140 a

00:44:11.220 whole

00:44:11.400 new

00:44:11.600 level

00:44:11.860 of

00:44:12.040 courage

00:44:12.300 it's

00:44:12.500 not

00:44:12.640 just

00:44:12.840 a

00:44:13.040 skill

00:44:13.480 can

00:44:13.800 you

00:44:13.900 do

00:44:14.060 it

00:44:14.200 well

00:44:14.460 it's

00:44:15.160 can

00:44:15.380 you

00:44:15.540 look

00:44:15.860 a

00:44:16.180 reporter

00:44:16.580 in

00:44:16.820 the

00:44:16.960 eyes

00:44:17.460 and

00:44:18.060 know

00:44:18.420 that

00:44:18.620 what

00:44:18.780 you're

00:44:18.940 about

00:44:19.140 to

00:44:19.360 say

00:44:19.700 will

00:44:20.180 hurt

00:44:20.440 their

00:44:20.640 feelings

00:44:21.120 will

00:44:21.360 offend

00:44:22.100 them

00:44:22.380 maybe

00:44:22.700 and

00:44:23.100 turn

00:44:23.340 them

00:44:23.500 against

00:44:23.820 you

00:44:24.040 that's

00:44:24.700 what

00:44:24.860 makes

00:44:25.140 it

00:44:25.300 tough

00:44:25.660 and

00:44:26.160 that's

00:44:26.520 what

00:44:26.620 I

00:44:26.720 don't

00:44:26.860 know

00:44:27.000 if

00:44:27.120 Alan

00:44:29.360 writes

00:44:29.880 Well it

00:44:41.760 reminds me

00:44:42.360 of

00:44:42.520 Preston

00:44:42.860 Manning

00:44:43.100 I worked

00:44:44.020 for Preston

00:44:44.480 Manning

00:44:44.700 as you

00:44:44.920 may know

00:44:45.160 for two

00:44:45.520 years

00:44:45.840 and

00:44:46.700 people

00:44:48.580 liked

00:44:49.000 the media

00:44:49.700 of course

00:44:50.580 they attacked

00:44:50.980 Preston

00:44:51.340 Manning

00:44:51.540 as a

00:44:51.780 racist

00:44:52.060 as a 0.98

00:44:52.380 bigot

00:44:52.580 that's

00:44:52.860 their

00:44:53.380 go-to

00:44:53.780 line

00:44:54.040 has been

00:44:54.460 for

00:44:54.720 decades

00:44:55.560 but they

00:44:57.500 never felt

00:44:57.940 threatened

00:44:58.340 by Preston

00:44:59.680 Manning

00:44:59.920 I

00:45:00.100 remember

00:45:00.520 when

00:45:01.320 Stockwell

00:45:01.840 Day

00:45:02.020 came

00:45:02.300 around

00:45:02.460 I mean

00:45:02.620 they hated

00:45:02.940 Preston

00:45:03.240 Manning

00:45:03.400 absolutely

00:45:03.800 but the

00:45:04.540 minute

00:45:04.680 Stockwell

00:45:05.240 Day

00:45:05.400 came

00:45:05.660 around

00:45:06.020 to

00:45:06.560 seek

00:45:07.080 the

00:45:07.340 leadership

00:45:07.860 of the

00:45:08.100 Canadian

00:45:08.320 Alliance

00:45:08.600 Party

00:45:08.900 the media

00:45:09.800 suddenly

00:45:10.260 fell in

00:45:10.760 love with

00:45:11.060 Preston

00:45:11.460 Manning

00:45:11.800 why's

00:45:12.380 that

00:45:12.740 well

00:45:13.620 because

00:45:13.860 they

00:45:14.060 saw

00:45:14.360 in

00:45:14.540 Stockwell

00:45:14.920 Day

00:45:15.060 someone

00:45:15.300 who

00:45:15.480 had

00:45:15.600 a

00:45:15.720 chance

00:45:16.060 of

00:45:16.280 breaking

00:45:17.020 through

00:45:17.340 he

00:45:17.540 spoke

00:45:17.860 better

00:45:18.140 French

00:45:18.500 he

00:45:18.660 was

00:45:18.840 more

00:45:19.040 media

00:45:19.380 savvy

00:45:19.800 he

00:45:20.320 was

00:45:20.500 younger

00:45:20.880 so

00:45:22.080 I

00:45:22.600 think

00:45:23.100 that

00:45:23.400 of course

00:45:24.540 the

00:45:24.760 media

00:45:25.060 despises

00:45:25.900 Andrew

00:45:26.300 Scheer

00:45:26.660 of course

00:45:27.040 he's

00:45:27.520 everything

00:45:27.840 they

00:45:28.080 hate

00:45:28.380 he's

00:45:28.780 conservative

00:45:29.500 he's

00:45:30.180 socially

00:45:30.580 conservative

00:45:30.940 he's

00:45:31.120 pro-life

00:45:31.600 he's

00:45:31.920 a family

00:45:32.380 man

00:45:32.740 he's

00:45:33.320 mild

00:45:33.580 mannered

00:45:34.080 he's

00:45:34.320 reasonable

00:45:34.900 of course

00:45:35.880 the media

00:45:36.380 hate him

00:45:36.940 but

00:45:38.300 they

00:45:38.640 fear

00:45:39.900 Maxime

00:45:40.900 Bernier

00:45:41.220 because

00:45:41.560 he might

00:45:42.000 actually

00:45:42.360 win

00:45:42.900 so

00:45:43.920 I

00:45:44.560 think

00:45:44.940 that

00:45:45.120 that's

00:45:45.400 why

00:45:45.580 the

00:45:45.800 media

00:45:46.040 hates

00:45:46.360 Bernier

00:45:46.880 they

00:45:47.380 fear

00:45:47.960 that

00:45:48.780 if

00:45:48.880 he

00:45:48.980 were

00:45:49.080 to

00:45:49.160 lead

00:45:49.280 the

00:45:49.440 party

00:45:49.640 he

00:45:49.760 could

00:45:49.880 actually

00:45:50.160 win

00:45:50.400 the

00:45:50.560 thing

00:45:50.820 John

00:45:52.420 writes

00:45:52.780 you

00:45:53.720 piqued

00:45:54.000 my

00:45:54.220 interest

00:45:54.540 about

00:45:54.780 a

00:45:54.920 rebel

00:45:55.080 charity

00:45:55.480 we

00:45:56.040 could

00:45:56.200 approach

00:45:56.460 the

00:45:56.600 next

00:45:56.760 election

00:45:57.080 with

00:45:57.280 third

00:45:57.440 party

00:45:57.680 status

00:45:58.000 with

00:45:58.160 our

00:45:58.280 own

00:45:58.440 commercials

00:45:58.880 denouncing

00:45:59.700 Trudeau

00:46:00.140 or other

00:46:00.600 third

00:46:00.840 parties

00:46:01.220 hey

00:46:01.900 I

00:46:02.580 like

00:46:03.040 your

00:46:03.320 thinking

00:46:04.080 you

00:46:04.900 are

00:46:05.080 exactly

00:46:05.580 right

00:46:06.120 I

00:46:06.680 mean

00:46:07.080 there

00:46:07.340 were

00:46:07.480 over

00:46:07.840 100

00:46:08.560 third

00:46:08.940 party

00:46:09.180 campaign

00:46:09.540 groups

00:46:09.820 in

00:46:09.960 the

00:46:10.040 last

00:46:10.240 election

00:46:10.640 all

00:46:11.620 but

00:46:11.760 one

00:46:11.940 of

00:46:12.020 them

00:46:12.140 for

00:46:12.500 Justin

00:46:12.880 Trudeau

00:46:13.200 wouldn't

00:46:13.440 it

00:46:13.540 be

00:46:13.680 fun

00:46:13.880 to

00:46:14.040 have

00:46:14.240 our

00:46:14.420 own

00:46:14.600 campaign

00:46:15.140 organization

00:46:16.200 registered

00:46:16.860 and

00:46:17.360 giving

00:46:17.760 tax

00:46:18.220 receipts

00:46:18.720 or

00:46:18.900 whatever

00:46:19.280 something

00:46:20.400 to

00:46:20.580 think

00:46:20.820 about

00:46:21.080 that's

00:46:21.440 for

00:46:21.580 sure

00:46:21.980 boy

00:46:22.320 I

00:46:22.460 like

00:46:22.640 the

00:46:22.780 way

00:46:22.900 you

00:46:23.040 think

00:46:23.360 already

00:46:24.840 well that

00:46:25.240 is our

00:46:25.600 show

00:46:25.900 for

00:46:26.200 today

00:46:26.560 on

00:46:26.840 behalf

00:46:27.100 of

00:46:27.260 all

00:46:27.340 of

00:46:27.420 us

00:46:27.520 here

00:46:27.660 at

00:46:27.800 Rebel

00:46:27.860 World

00:46:28.040 Headquarters

00:46:28.420 to you

00:46:28.640 at home

00:46:28.920 good night

00:46:29.540 and keep

00:46:30.600 heckling

00:46:31.020 politicians

00:46:31.700 bye

00:46:32.660 bye

00:46:46.200 bye

Rebel News Podcast - August 21, 2018

Trudeau repeatedly calls a “heckling grandma” a “racist”： Here's the FULL video the Media Party won't show you

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