SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Anti-gun Liberals beat the confiscation war drums... again
Summary
Two new sneaky gun bans and a radical anti-gun candidate? What do the Liberals have in store for canada s firearms owning community? On this week's episode of The Gun Show, host Sheila Gun Reid is joined by the National Firearms Association's Rick Guorsuch to discuss.
Transcript
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two new sneaky gun bans and a radical anti-gun candidate what do the liberals have in store
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for canada's firearms owning community i'm sheila gun reid and you're watching the gun show
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well this past week as you're watching it this uh bill blair the former police chief who oversaw
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the explosion of violent crime in toronto turned liberal party cabinet minister has decided that
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even after 10 years of failing canadians on the public safety file the liberals have finally
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figured it out and they know what they need to do to keep us safe and it is more gun bans now they
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have been imposing gun bans on us since at least 2020 and they actually haven't uh taken guns from
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the hands of canadian firearms owners it's almost like they know that it is simply for show and we
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aren't the bad guys but i'm tired of being scapegoated and the selection of provo from
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paulie susuviant as mark carney's liberal party candidate means that the liberals might actually
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take the guns from us so last week i had on the canadian coalition for firearms rights to talk
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about this issue this week i'm having on the national firearms association so joining me now in an
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interview we actually recorded last friday because if you're watching this i'm in montreal for the
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elections debates is rick igorsuch take a listen
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joining me now is good friend of the show and good friend of rebel news and good friend of freedom
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everywhere rick igorsuch from the national firearms association i wanted to have rick on the show
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uh as we're recording this friday morning because on thursday the liberals dusted off their favorite or
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maybe second favorite wedge issue to bash canadians over the head with and that is uh firearms policy
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and when the liberals talk about firearms policy they mean firearms bans uh bill blair was the point
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man in this he is the former police chief of toronto who oversaw the explosion of gang violence
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there now he's the man uh the liberals have tasked with making canada safer and we note that bill
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blair announced uh key plank in his public safety platform um that's something that's been
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in the law for i don't know upwards of 30 years but uh leave it to the firearms uh gun grabbers
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to not know what's actually in the law and what actually affects the people there our government
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has promised canadians that we will do everything required to keep them safe and we have also promised
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canadians that we would strengthen gun control in this country and let me be very clear this is
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not directed towards the firearms that are used by hunters and sports shooters in canada those hunters
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and sports shooters obey our laws obey our laws and they earn the privilege of firearm ownership
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through their hard work there's their they buy their guns legally they store them safely they use
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them responsibly and they follow all of our laws but we also know that there are other firearms
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that have no place in canadian society we know that those firearms have been used they were designed
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to kill people and they have been used to kill people here in canada at ecole port-a-technique
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at port-a-peak in moncton in fredericton in myerthorpe and in places right across this country
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and they are used every single day in the united states to kill people mr polyev has promised the gun lobby
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that he will weaken our gun laws mr polyev has promised the gun lobby that he will restore
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the legality of assault rifles in our communities and he's promised the gun lobby that he will give
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us american style gun laws canada is not america and we need to stand up for our country our values
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and our beliefs and we need to do everything possible to keep our community safe rick break down what
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happened thursday in the liberals firearms policy announcement well thanks for having me on your
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show sheila uh thursday uh mark carney just watching this is second time he made this announcement he
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made the announcement in the french debate uh where he says he's going to continue the gun bans and the
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gun seizures but on thursday he decided to do a high profile event with uh natalie provost uh the
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non-lobbyist lobbyist for the liberals who's now running for the liberals and uh and bill blair to uh
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basically say that he's gonna put a law out there that if there's any any uh intimate partner violence
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his words that he's gonna clamp down hard on it although the law has been in place like sheila
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said for for 30 years the terrorists are not the only american policies that are threatening
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our economy and our society they're also threatening the safety of our communities
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criminals are taking advantage of irresponsible american gun laws
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and their weak border enforcement to bring illegal guns into canada large american online platforms have
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become seas of racism misogyny anti-semitism islamophobia and hate in all its forms
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and they're being used by criminals to harm our children
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my government will act and today we're announcing our plan to fight crime to protect canadians and to
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build communities that are safe secure and strong a plan to make canada secure to make canada strong
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criminals are trying to illegally import guns to canada pierre polyev is trying to import irresponsible
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american-style gun laws into our country you can't be serious about being tough on crime
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if you're not willing to be tough on guns you can't be serious about stopping intimate partner violence
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without being serious about gun control when we know when we know from our own tragic history
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how often guns are involved we are taking action all while respecting the long-standing traditions
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of hunting and sports shooting and respecting the traditions of indigenous peoples if elected my
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government will automatically revoke gun licenses for individuals convicted of violence offenses including
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intimate partner violence we will strengthen firearms licensing and the so-called yellow and red flag
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laws that keep weapons out of the hands of those who are risked to themselves or others we will invest
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in the rcmp's national forensic laboratories in ottawa and surrey and the saskatchewan ballistics lab to
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increase our capacity to track down guns used in crimes we will quickly and i mean quickly reinvigorate
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the buyback of assault style firearms and leave the classification of new firearm models to the
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rcmp to the experts not to the gun industry no new guns should come into this country before they have
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been examined and classified by those experts we must stem the tide of illegal guns and drugs coming across
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our border with the united states but mark carney i think more grasping at straws than anything and
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and i said this from the start there's going to be a point in this uh election campaign where the
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liberals bring firearms in as a wedge issue we were just waiting for the minute to happen and guess what
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it happened the other day so the in this big event with natalie provost and bill blair instead of really
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you know talking about the root of the issue the gang violence the smuggled guns they decided again
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to go after law-abiding canadians law-abiding freedom-loving canadians who like their personal
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property in a direct attack as an election issue and in my opinion all this is is just another ploy to try
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to get them votes yeah i mean i can't tell if mark carney is ignorant on firearms laws or if he is
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counting on the ignorance of other people i guess it's dealer's choice it doesn't matter either way
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it's cynical and ridiculous because this law that prevents people who are even charged with intimate
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partner violence from having their firearms has been in place for i guess ever since uh pal and our
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pal system existed for example if you are filing for your renewal for your gun license or applying
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for the first time you have to give what names and phone numbers of what the government describes as
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conjugal partners so that the government can contact them and they interview them your exes they
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interview your exes to get permission from your exes for you to own your firearms and so this is the
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sort of invasive background check that firearms owners have to subject them to just to lawfully
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enjoy their property and we are checked for violence every single day that we have a firearms license
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our backgrounds are checked every single day so this is in place it's invasive um and it's already there
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but i i can't tell if mark carney doesn't know or if he's counting on other people not knowing
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yeah well you know conjugal partners you know that could that leaves it wide open they didn't they
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didn't use the word spouse and uh you know if uh it's ridiculous you know uh how how personal do they
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really want to get uh as far as well you know with uh with uh bill c71 and and the background checks
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basically going back to when you were born and with this this conjugal partner thing it's ridiculous
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you know we we don't have any freedoms anymore and the thing is firearms owners are vetted every day
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we're law-abiding canadians we're vetted we we do have that license which base which is more or less
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uh stay out of jail free card because if you don't have one and you have firearms you're you're slated
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as a criminal you know and mark carney he made a statement the uh the other date also uh and this was
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actually in the in the french liberal debate he said polyev will have people running around the street
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with ar-15s we need to get the buyback going what kind of statement is that you know we
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we we had the background checks we're not gonna we're not gonna take our ar-15s and be uh carrying
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them on our backs on the street this man in my opinion hasn't got a clue about the firearms issue
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i don't think he realizes what's really going on and he's taking advice from people from from gun
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banners natalie provost prime example you know she says she was never a lobbyist she never she never uh
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did anything as far as lobbying goes but you look at her that's all she's done in the last
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bunch of years and now the liberals as a reward i guess gave her a position to run
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in in the federal election yeah i mean what mark carney announced yesterday that he's going to you know
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it's take firearms away from people who have been accused of intimate partner violence that's like
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saying he's going to make drunk driving illegal like it's already illegal um yeah it's it's the
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dumbest thing if your spouse or your conjugal partner so much as calls an rcmp hotline uh your
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guns will be taken away unilaterally you do not have a choice in many instances no conviction sometimes
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not even charges um and where we have zero privacy as firearms owners but as you rightly point out the
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selection of natalie provost to run as a candidate for the liberals was an indication to me that not
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only was mark carney going to be as bad as justin trudeau i knew he was going to be worse because
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natalie provost while she is a survivor of a mass shooting uh she has been one of the most radical
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firearms banners in this entire country and she quit the liberals gun ban panel because it wasn't moving
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fast enough it wasn't banning enough but guns quickly enough so when i saw that she was nominated
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to run for the liberals i thought oh dang here it comes uh it's going to be even worse uh and
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like accelerated from you know 2 000 plus firearms plus all the handguns banned
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that wasn't enough for her it's going to be even worse yeah and uh with that said
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it's an inside job is what it is it's all these anti people group together they influence the media
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they influence people but it's they've been going on about this for 30 years and you know falling back
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on their on their on their uh on the same thing over 30 years and this time i don't know what's going
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to happen i think you're probably going to see the the attack ad start again but hopefully people have
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realized that they're kicking a dead horse these days it's more about what else is going on in canada
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than a group of law-abiding canadians just trying to live their lives i think i think people are starting
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to realize you know there's a lot bigger issues than people like sheila and i who are just want
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to have firearms go out and have fun you know collect keep our family heirloops i i think
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and i think it's gone beyond that now and people are sick and tired of hearing this
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and now i wanted to talk to you about uh two firearms that were specifically manufactured to
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be c21 compliant and i think the point of this is that it doesn't matter if you
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even try to follow the ridiculous rules if you are a manufacturer because your gun will be arbitrarily
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banned and your personal business that you built around being completely compliant will be absolutely
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devastated through the stroke of a bureaucratic pen by somebody who is not accountable to parliament
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these decisions are being made either through an order in council so outside of the scrutiny of
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parliament or buy it an rcmp bureaucrat in a cubicle somewhere uh tell us tell us about uh the lockhart
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tactical raven and the crypto uh two guns that were meant to be uh completely compliant with c21
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now you know you're talking about two canadian companies and like you mentioned they were
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these two firearms were built to be canadian compliant to the uh liberals regulations and what
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happened was about a month ago the lockhart tactical raven was uh put on the ban list now we've been
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working with sam lockhart from lockhart tactical and his whole stock right now has been banned it's a
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canadian business that if this continues is going to go down because they can't sell any of their
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product which is absolutely ridiculous because it affects the tax tax base and uh the worker base you
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know you employ several people to build these firearms they're going to lose their job because of uh
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because of this decision by the liberals and the the uh crusader crypto that's another one they just got
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banned a few days ago now this gun was compliant to a few days ago and the rcmp in their ultimate
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wisdom decided to ban this firearm it wasn't done through order and council that wasn't done through
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government it definitely there was definitely no legislation about it it just they decided to take this
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firearm and put it on the ban list in any other country when the police start making the rules
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it would be called a police state but apparently it's all good in canada unbelievable sheila yeah and
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let's be clear this these decisions are not being made by rcmp officers these are rcmp civilian
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bureaucrats in a office somewhere these are like the nameless faceless uh tyrants who bear no scrutiny
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for their outrageous decisions they're they don't even provide reasons for it we know that the lockhart
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tactical raven it hasn't been used in any crimes neither with the crusader arms crypto like they
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haven't been used in any crimes why are you banning them except that they look cool and they were uh
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you know a potentially a canadian success story had it not been for the federal government it's funny to
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hear the same people uh being like oh elbows up team canada and you're destroying two canadian
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businesses here yeah you know and then they fall back on the thing well you know what there's going
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to be a buyback on these firearms well i'll tell you what there's been a bunch of firearms turned in by
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different uh agencies and uh wholesalers some retailers and there isn't been any buyback no money was no money was
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paid for this stuff and these guns went and were destroyed well more parts than guns i guess there
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was a few guns but a lot of parts associated with uh ar platform got destroyed because the liberals
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promised these people that they were going to pay them for this stuff and all of a sudden bang there's
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an election everything gets frozen what's going to happen next is mark carney going to shell out billions
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of dollars for these parts for these firearms you know he he talks the talk about going out and uh
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started you know re-energizing the gun bans and and the buyback and the seizures where where's this
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my question is where's all this money going to come from basically the trudeau government in the last
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nine years bankrupted this country where are they going to get all this money i don't know if there's
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going to be any money i think it's just a ploy to take a bunch of personal property off the streets
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yeah yeah and they're hoping that people are here's the thing canadian firearms owners are law
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abiding we're willing to jump through all these stupid hoops to enjoy our personal property so they
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are counting on our law abiding nature they want us to say well it's the law i guess we turn them in
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that's what they're counting on you know yeah and you know what and that's the thing and then then
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they're making they're also making threats well if you don't turn your firearms in you will will
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cancel your pal will revoke your pal a letter went out a few weeks ago and it was uh it was uh kind of uh
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i call it a search and destroy letter they don't know what's out there on the list so sure they want you
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to send in a list of the firearms that you have that could be potentially be on the ordering council
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list or the new stuff that's popping up every day it's ridiculous you know they don't know so
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number one enforcement if if carney becomes hopefully not but if carney becomes prime minister
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how are they going to enforce this carney stated that he is going to open up talks with canada post
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again so canada post can take these firearms in and send them to their final destination for
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destruction so my question is is uncle joe's wife going to walk into a post office carrying uh
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ar-15 and an m14 under each arm and lay it on the counter is that gonna happen you know none of it
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none of it makes any sense sheila no no they don't have a plan uh they don't have a policy even uh all
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they know is we we have to take the guns from the firearms owners to make it seem like we're doing
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something because all of their bad progressive policies unfettered immigration open border policies
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um dei non dei sentencing and bail uh policies have made canada far less safe so they need to be seen
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to be doing something they're hoping canadians are low info enough to buy it um while actually doing
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nothing to make canadians safer and there's a reason why all the police unions are lining up
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behind poly of to endorse him and his tough on crime policies instead of mark carney's uh trudeau
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policies and uh policy announcements that have been in law for 30 years you know last week the
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toronto police union made a statement that uh the liberal gun laws aren't working taking a gun taking
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guns away from law abiding uh canadians will not change a thing and they suggested that it shouldn't
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be part of this election campaign and what do they do they come out a week later and they're all about
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the guns yep yeah because they need a wedge issue i like i said it's their either their first or second
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favorite wedge issue uh the other one is abortion depending on the day and depending on what the polls look
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like um now i wanted to talk to you about this new initiative that you have at the national firearms
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association to help firearms owners keep their firearms safe and secure tell us about this
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well the nfa has a new initiative it's called save our guns so what we're doing in many cases
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mostly in estates sometimes in court issues firearms are being seized and destroyed by the police
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so we decided to put together a program we obtained our firearms business license our fbl and put in a
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facility where we can hold and store these guns till these issues resolve themselves till the law changes
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or in in the case of a court matter and a lot of these a lot of these issues especially the court
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matters are to do with uh domestic violence that really wasn't domestic violence but with the red
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flag laws you know firearms are seized right away before any questions are asked so we can hold these
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firearms indefinitely till until that issue is resolved in the case of an estate we've got a package out
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there we've had for a long time how to deal with firearms specifically handguns after bill c21 in
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in case of the death in the family the nfa has a package out there you can reach it reach out to
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blair at blair at nfa.ca and he'll provide you with that package we will store those firearms until
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things are resolved the other option is we hate to see firearms being destroyed if you want to donate a
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a firearm that you're that you don't want to possess anymore to the nfa we will find a good home for
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it we've been working with a lot of different people and there's ways handguns right now until
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uh the polyev government gets in are gonna have to stay with us until we until that gets sorted out but
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as far as long guns and stuff we hate to see guns get destroyed send it to us we will find a good home for
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it this is purely non-for-profit it is just you know there's some uh there's some uh logistical costs
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but that's it so we want to save these guns we don't want to see these guns get destroyed you know
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a lot of these things are family heirlooms and historical firearms that were from world war one
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world war two and other conflicts you know that made canada what we are today well not what we are
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today but what we were 10 years ago we were yeah yeah what we were and the liberals want to destroy
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these firearms you know i did a thing the other day and i was talking about uh firearms and my
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grandfather who used to who was a tobacco farmer back in the 20s 30s and 40s he used to carry a little
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iver johnson 32 smith and wesson revolver in a shoulder holster when he was out in the field you know
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because it was legal back then you know he he used to just you know dispatch wounded livestock with it
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or what you know just sit there and plank with it now and then have fun you know just for the sake
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because he could back then i'd hate that gun is probably worth 20 dollars i still have it i would
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that would break my heart to see that gun destroyed so our save firearms program is basically to save
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history save firearms and help people out when they're in a bit of a crisis rick igorsuch firearms
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foster dad yes put put that on your business card uh now i think it's a great program um especially
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people who are you know who don't want red flag laws weaponized against them and this is not a men's
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issue it's also a women's issue um and and people like me who their family history and the land they
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live on uh is directly tied to the firearms in the gun case that natalie provo bill blair and mark
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carney think i shouldn't have um i want to give you an opportunity to tell people about the nfa
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a gm coming up in okay at the beginning of may we've got our nfa a gm coming up we've got a really
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really cool keynote speaker sheila gun reed uh we've got uh we've got uh dr terry bryant is going to be
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there uh let's see who else do we have we have a couple of uh we have a couple of uh the black hats uh
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mitch and uh scott who were responsible for what happened uh with the alberta constitution which was
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uh which was a big thing in alberta you know we have uh you know we have uh we have a some really
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really uh you know it's going to be really it's going to be really interesting that we're going to
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have uh thoughts from different areas i know sheila's going to touch on some stuff and the black hats are
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going to uh you know touch on on some stuff come out it's fifty dollars a person uh you could do it
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one day or two days there's a meet and greet the night before where you can meet all these people
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and the next day there is the actual meeting and uh and uh and uh speeches it's going to be very
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interesting it's uh it's filling up quick so reach out get a ticket you can get a ticket on nfa.ca
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and it's going to be interesting and i'm sure it's going to be a lot of fun also and we're going
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to talk about freedom we're going to talk about guns and we're just going to talk about who we are
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who we really are you know we're just a bunch of people from the country from the city that are
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on the same page and on a good cause so if you can come out folks and it'll be a great time oh by
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the way we're giving away a bunch of stuff we've got a a cadex rifle that's going to be an
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a silent auction we've got a couple guns that the westerners are like we've got a couple lever
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action henry rifles that we're giving away there's going to be some uh all kinds of prizes uh from
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leopold vortex other uh other sponsors the list is too long to uh mention so come on out uh you
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could walk out of there with a gun we're going to have uh we're going to have a gun for a door prize
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it's going to be a cool door prize and there's going to be a silent auction on a bunch of other stuff
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and i tell you you know we did the silent auction in the past and people get some really good deals
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on some really nice gun all the profits go to uh uh nfa uh to continue the fight for your rights and
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freedoms you know a good choice on those henry action leavers or henry lever actions uh for red
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deer cowboy guns right cowboy guns and cowboy country um yeah i'm excited you know and what i like about uh
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going to these sorts of events is that you look around and we are not what the left says we are
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as firearms owners you look around and it's young it's old it's uh people from the cities it's people
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from the country like me you might even get a journalist or two there uh we're not this uh
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backwoods bucktooth hillbilly bunch who just loves their guns and bibles even though i do like i feel i
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hit the stereotype but not everybody does and uh that's uh god guns and freedom right so i realized
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that i am a walking talking stereotype and it's a reason it's a stereotype and it's because it's true
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but you will come there and you will see a bunch of different people um because this is truly a like
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it's a property rights issue it's a sports issue um it's a leave me alone kind of issue and so and you
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you get to talk to people like sheila and myself which you normally see on these uh these podcasts
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or uh other events on social media you get you get to meet us and realize that we're one of you we're
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not uh you know we're not tv personalities we're not uh no we're just a bunch of simple people from
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the country getting the word out that's right uh rick uh tell people how they can get involved in the
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nfa because there are lots of benefits for membership and also you have that really great uh
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merchandise site yeah uh you can reach out to us on uh on nfa.ca if you're interested in becoming
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a member but you can also see us on our platforms we're on youtube instagram facebook and x uh where
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we uh post usually daily on on on the on the instagram the facebook and the x uh usually once a
00:32:10.120
month on youtube we put out a nfa talk come out join the fight uh we're a non-for-profit organization
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all your money except for office expenses basically goes into the fight we need all the members we can
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get you know and you don't have to be a gun owner if you're a freedom-minded person join us because
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that's part of our plight it's not just firearms it's freedom and you know come out join us get in the
00:32:35.880
fight meet us you know come out to the agm meet us you'll see that we're just a bunch of normal
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people and we'll talk to anybody that's on the same page as us and you know what we'll even talk to
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people who aren't but we'll enlighten them on the way things really are exactly rick thanks so much
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for coming on the show and i'm sorry it's been so long in between visits and i'll see you at the agm
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yes and uh i'm looking forward to seeing you i'm looking forward to listening to you at the agm
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and remember canada's national firearms association in defense of your freedom
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all right well the last portion of the show i turn it over to you and again if you're watching this
00:33:21.160
i'm in montreal at the leaders debates shocking everybody including myself so this is all pre-recorded
00:33:30.680
thanks for bearing with me maybe news has broken which renders this show obsolete but i still think
00:33:38.200
you'll enjoy it even if that is the case so i turn over the second portion of the show or rather
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the third portion of the show to you the last closing segment that's where i want to hear from you
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you can send your emails and viewer feedback to me at sheila at rebel news dot com put gun show
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00:34:26.280
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00:34:32.360
lovely thank you now today's email comes to me from a long-time viewer long-time supporter if you are
00:34:39.960
a regular viewer of the show you you've heard me read his emails a lot uh it's bruce atchison and
00:34:46.600
he's writing to me on last week's show with my friend my buddy tracy wilson from the ccfr and uh
00:34:54.200
bruce writes what's the most dangerous part of a car it's the nut holding the wheel that dad joke
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illustrates the ccfr's point that guns aren't the problem it's the nuts and gang members who must be
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banished to prison for crimes involving guns yeah wouldn't that be great but the liberals keep
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removing the mandatory minimum sentences gun owners are the most bet vetted people in society
00:35:16.840
yet the delusional leftists go after property instead of perpetrators yes yeah they do
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i'm also glad other cat owners are remarking on your show about their feline friends
00:35:29.160
yeah they are uh and uh sometimes my kitty if you watch the live stream uh weekly daily sorry my
00:35:39.640
kitty little trigger he will come and make a fuss or get on the desk sometimes he just likes to be in
00:35:46.440
the studio when i'm working also the dog lets him in they gang up on me i close the doors the dog puts
00:35:52.760
her nose in there pushes the sliding barn doors open and kitty comes in and then sits on my desk
00:35:59.480
anyway my cat delta is still as fussy as a princess she dislikes frisky so i give her tastefuls
00:36:07.640
and fancy feast wet food i hope she won't let those go to waste your loyal viewer bruce etchison and delta
00:36:15.400
of course uh yeah let me know if your cat likes the show viewers at home i think my cat doesn't like
00:36:23.240
the show likes me just fine doesn't like that i hold myself up in here and work and exclude the
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little trigger out in the world well everybody that's the show for tonight thanks so much for
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tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week and
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as always don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think