Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Canadian Postmodernism and Bad Green Policies

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00:02:26.480 How modern environmentalism ties into post-modernist nonsense. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:02:32.200 and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:38.600 Municipal politics are a virtue-signaling mess, and that seems to hold true in every major city

00:02:56.780 and municipality in this beautiful country. For example, the city of Edmonton is putting acres

00:03:01.460 upon acres of solar panels in our beautiful river valley to power a water treatment plant for just a

00:03:07.580 couple of hours each day, while some of the cleanest burning coal on the face of the earth

00:03:11.460 sits just west of the city, unused, unloved, unwanted. The city of Ottawa has a $60 billion

00:03:19.180 climate change plan, and politicians there just dedicated $1 billion to electric buses with,

00:03:24.840 I guess, complete and total disregard for the unreliability of 100% electric vehicles in Canada's

00:03:31.060 frigid northern climate. The natural question, then, is why is any of this happening? Why are Canadian 1.00

00:03:39.700 cities, and really cities around the world, pursuing these bizarre green virtue-signaling goals that,

00:03:46.420 at the end of the day, have no impact on greenhouse gas emissions? If you care about those sorts of

00:03:51.700 things, and if you're a regular watcher, you know that I really don't. Well, my guest today is an

00:03:56.900 avid watcher of bad green policies, bad green politicians making bad green policies, and he's

00:04:04.100 got some theories about applied postmodernism and how this new age social science has overtaken the

00:04:10.820 application of real science. So joining me tonight to discuss how feelings about climate overtook the

00:04:18.020 facts of climate is Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition Canada in an interview we

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00:05:38.820 Joining me now from his home in Ottawa is my friend Tom Harris from the International Climate Science

00:05:43.780 Coalition, Canada. Tom, you and I were talking off camera, and I know this isn't on the list of

00:05:50.500 things that we were going to talk about. But I did a story this week about how CBC censors their

00:05:54.980 comment section. And you have your own experience with the censorship of the CBC. Can you just give

00:06:02.100 us a brief Coles Notes version of that? Because, you know, they are, you know, they're supposed to be

00:06:07.460 the voice of Canadians. I'm pretty sure that's why we give them over a billion dollars every year,

00:06:11.780 but they sure don't want to hear from all of us. No, that's for sure. And in particular, you know,

00:06:16.500 right around the time when they had the riots in Washington, D.C., people were on the web saying,

00:06:21.700 you know, Donald Trump has done everything wrong. And I said, well, actually, no. And here's quite a

00:06:26.020 list. I gave them a list of 16 things that he'd done really well. Okay. And among those things are

00:06:31.860 bringing the troops home, of course, and trying to prevent American companies from indirectly helping the

00:06:38.260 Chinese military. He'd done, you know, lots and lots of good things, getting out of the Paris 0.98

00:06:44.900 Agreement, things like that. Well, of course, the CBC moderators, really censors, immediately took my

00:06:51.060 post off the web. And so people then would get on into the comments section and say, oh, you can't

00:06:55.940 list a single thing. I'd say, yes, I can. Here they are, 16. Boom, it's just immediately deleted. And,

00:07:02.660 you know, this is a trend that I've seen with the CBC on other issues, too. I mean,

00:07:06.900 about a year ago, I was putting in some postings, actually, a particular posting. I made a video

00:07:12.180 about why the lockdowns were a big mistake. I put it up on YouTube. I got about 500 views,

00:07:17.300 not a lot, but still, it was fun. And I put a link to it on the CBC's website in their comments section,

00:07:24.580 and it followed all their guidelines. They say they do welcome, you know, alternative points of view,

00:07:29.380 and you can have links to external sites as long as, you know, there isn't hate speech and things like

00:07:34.020 that. And of course, they took it off right away. So I wrote to the CBC, you know, in both cases,

00:07:40.340 and I said, you know, what's going on? Like, I'm not breaking your community standards. Why is it

00:07:45.220 being deleted? The only kind of answer I got was from audience relations saying it was completely

00:07:51.060 correct to remove your posting. So I'd say, well, why is it completely correct? No answer. And this is

00:07:57.620 a typical trend of what we're seeing in the CBC. I mean, the point of having a public broadcaster is

00:08:03.300 supposed to be, you know, unbiased coverage of news, in which we can hear both sides of stories,

00:08:09.860 and people can make their own mind up as to what they agree with. But the CBC is not doing that. I

00:08:15.060 mean, they're completely violating their mandate, which is supposedly to give unbiased news for Canada.

00:08:21.940 Instead, they have a woke progressive mentality that allows them to simply delete without explanation,

00:08:29.380 points of view that are different to what they want to promote. And from that point of view,

00:08:34.180 I don't see the point in even continuing to fund the CBC. I mean, I've noticed your t-shirt defund the

00:08:39.300 CBC. I couldn't agree more, because they are violating their whole raison d'être. You know,

00:08:45.540 they simply are not doing what we're paying them to do. It's fascinating to hear your experience,

00:08:52.740 because I had a version of your experience in black and white, how CBC censors their comment

00:08:59.860 section, and they have a specific host of policies around President Trump, or they did at the time,

00:09:05.540 especially with regard to the riots. So they said in their comment section, you know,

00:09:11.940 that they would be deleting things that were fact checking the CBC stories on Trump. So when

00:09:18.180 CBC publishes a story saying Trump incited the riots, and if one of the commenters posted a link

00:09:23.940 saying, well, here's what he actually said, they would delete that. And you lived that experience

00:09:29.220 in real time. That's very interesting for me to hear. Well, you know, the CBC and I have been at

00:09:35.780 Oz for quite a long time. I mean, right back to the days when the space shuttle blew up in 1986. And 0.98

00:09:41.460 that's what got me into journalism, actually, to the degree I do it, because the CBC were attacking

00:09:46.980 NASA for not launching the space shuttle with the frequency of the Ariane unmanned rocket. But of

00:09:53.860 course, the unmanned rockets, if they blow up, all they do is cost a lot of money. And the CBC were

00:09:59.700 attacking them completely unreasonably. And NASA eventually did yield to media pressure, not just

00:10:05.140 the CBC, of course, but all over North America. And they launched under conditions the engineers said

00:10:10.580 were dangerous. And then, of course, the CBC and the others immediately attacked NASA for launching

00:10:16.740 under those conditions. So, I mean, I realized at that point, with such a biased mainstream media,

00:10:23.060 I had to get into media because my specialty was aerospace engineering at the time. And to start to write

00:10:29.060 actually what's true. But the CBC, I mean, I've had so many conflicts with them over that, over climate

00:10:35.620 change, over anti-Americanism. I mean, it goes on and on. I mean, they have a mandate that,

00:10:40.660 to me, should not be supported by the public. Oh, that's the thing. Publish whatever you want.

00:10:46.180 I don't care. I just don't want to pay for it. Tom, I wanted to talk to you about something that's

00:10:51.700 happening pretty close to home for you, the City of Ottawa. They've got a, as these things tend to be,

00:10:57.460 enormously expensive climate plan that is going to put the taxpayer on the hook for, sounds like $60

00:11:06.580 billion. Yeah, exactly. They have a plan to hit net zero by 2050. Net zero, of course, is practically

00:11:14.740 the same as saying zero greenhouse gas emissions. Zero people also. Well, what in fact they do is in

00:11:22.820 calculating net emissions is they actually look at things that are used to take carbon dioxide out

00:11:28.020 of the air, too. And they subtract that from the amount that we're emitting so that you end up with

00:11:32.660 a net zero. But it's pretty close to simply going to 100 percent renewables and getting entirely off

00:11:39.700 fossil fuels. And they want to spend almost $60 billion by the year 2050 to go to net zero by 2050.

00:11:48.420 And it's really quite incredible, Sheila, if you actually look at what that number represents.

00:11:53.620 I mean, the city's annual budget is $3.94 billion. So $60 billion is about 14 and a half times their

00:12:03.220 current total annual budget. And they want to spend this on this loopy idea that Ottawa can help stop

00:12:11.220 climate change. I mean, the whole of Ontario is one half of one percent of world emissions. I don't

00:12:16.820 know what Ottawa is, but it's probably like one tenth of one percent. It's just trivial. And you know,

00:12:21.540 it's interesting because here are some of the things that would have to be done to meet the

00:12:26.420 hundred percent scenario in the electricity sector. We would have to have in Ottawa alone,

00:12:32.580 we'd have to have 36 square kilometers of solar photovoltaic panels on rooftops. 36 square kilometers.

00:12:41.780 Now that's 40 percent of what the whole of Ontario currently has. But here's the killer. And this

00:12:46.260 is something that Catherine McKenna, our MP from Ottawa, and of course, previous environment minister,

00:12:52.660 she should be really opposed to this. They want to have, to meet this target, 710 large-scale turbines. 0.82

00:12:59.300 Now, these turbines, these wind turbines are huge, 160 meters in height. And that's in comparison with,

00:13:05.460 let's say, the Peace Tower, which is 98 meters in height, okay? So we're talking about not twice as

00:13:12.260 high, but pretty close to twice as high as the Peace Tower. And they want 710 of these turbines. I mean,

00:13:19.460 in Denmark, you can walk from one side of the country to the other and never lose sight of a wind turbine.

00:13:25.460 These huge wind turbines, some of them up to 60 stories high. And you sure don't want to live

00:13:29.700 near one because, of course, they produce infrasound, which goes right through your wall

00:13:33.940 and causes all kinds of problems for people. But if Ottawa had 710 of these huge turbines,

00:13:41.540 you'd never lose sight of a dozen of them anywhere in the city. They would be everywhere, you know? So,

00:13:46.340 I mean, Catherine McKenna and others should be vehemently opposed to these. And of course,

00:13:50.420 the whole idea that wind and solar are environmentally friendly is completely ridiculous.

00:13:56.180 I mean, these are bird blenders. I mean, they kill millions of birds across the year,

00:14:01.140 across the world. And in fact, even more bats because a bat only has to fly behind the turbine blade

00:14:08.020 where the low pressure zone, that low pressure bursts their lungs. So you find that, in fact,

00:14:13.220 twice as many bats are killed than birds by industrial wind turbines. So you see experts in these fields,

00:14:20.020 conservation who are vehemently opposed to wind turbines. But, you know, the Ottawa plan is

00:14:26.020 completely crazy because they also don't talk about what are you going to do with all the turbine

00:14:31.540 blades when they wear out in the 15 to 20 years. The same thing with the solar panels. I mean,

00:14:38.340 there is no plan currently for disposing of these things. And of course, we're going to have to,

00:14:43.540 if they only last 15 to 20 years by 2050, we're going to be on our second generation of all these.

00:14:49.700 So they're going to have to take them all down, all 710 huge wind turbines, all the 36 square

00:14:56.260 kilometers of solar panels. They're going to have to take them all down and somehow do something with

00:15:00.980 them. So, you know, the whole plan is completely loony and it's led to another plan and that is their

00:15:07.700 buses. Okay. They want to have, and I'll just read it here, 450 battery powered buses.

00:15:15.380 They're planning to roll it out over five years and it's going to cost almost a billion dollars

00:15:20.580 for these buses. And I don't know about you, but I find Ottawa is kind of a cold place in the winter.

00:15:26.180 I heard it's snowy.

00:15:29.220 And, you know, battery manufacturers tell us that the lithium ion batteries that are in these buses

00:15:34.260 actually don't operate so well at low temperature. And we've already seen that, you know, like in

00:15:41.060 Germany, in Berlin, we had a last year alone, 23 electric buses broke down in the cold weather

00:15:48.740 because their batteries gave out. And, and, you know, if you actually look at the manufacturer's

00:15:53.940 statistics about these batteries, they tell you point blank that there's a big problem when they're

00:15:59.060 operated in very low temperatures. For example, you know, you see the range of batteries when the

00:16:05.540 temperature drops from 10 degrees Celsius, which it could be on a very warm winter day to minus six,

00:16:11.220 which is still not cold by Ottawa standards. The electric bus ranges dropped by 38%.

00:16:18.260 And it's funny because in Berlin, where it was only about minus 10, they found that these electric

00:16:24.420 buses were supposed to have a range of 130 kilometers, but the batteries ran out halfway

00:16:30.500 through their trip. So we're going to leave people stranded on street corners all over Ottawa

00:16:36.260 at minus 20 degrees. Oh, and we better be rescued by the old, you know, internal combustion engine 0.74

00:16:43.300 buses. Let's hope we don't throw them out because we're going to need them to back up all these stupid 0.99

00:16:48.020 battery buses. You know, it's so crazy, but it's not Ottawa. Like I think most of the bad ideas 0.99

00:16:54.340 in this country come from Ottawa in one form or another, but it's not just Ottawa. I mean, Edmonton

00:16:59.540 with their stupid solar panel farm in the river Valley to produce like a fraction of the energy 1.00

00:17:06.180 to run one water treatment facility during the day in optimal weather conditions. How does this thing work 1.00

00:17:15.060 in the winter when we have no daylight at all? And it's going, and they are putting it in this

00:17:21.540 environmentally fragile area of our river Valley. And yet these are the same people who say,

00:17:29.540 oh no, no, we can't have a pipeline. It might leak. And I'm looking at these horrible solar panels

00:17:33.860 thinking they're pretty fragile. They don't have the monitoring system that pipelines have.

00:17:38.820 Um, they're toxic to begin with and you're sticking them in the river Valley, the river Valley and for

00:17:45.380 nothing like for it to produce like a virtue signaling ounce of energy every single day.

00:17:50.980 Well, that's right. And in fact, it's a terrible way to do virtue signaling because,

00:17:54.740 you know, wind and solar power in their own ways are the most environmentally damaging

00:18:00.100 energy sources on the planet. I mean, if you look at, for example, rare, where the rare earth supply is

00:18:05.780 mostly coming from, I mean, it's coming from countries like China. And in fact, in particular,

00:18:10.900 Mongolia, which is where most of a lot of the world's rare earths. And by the way, I should

00:18:15.300 point out the rare earths are needed in the super magnets at the top of the wind turbines.

00:18:20.260 Okay. To get reasonable amounts of electricity out. So we really, we don't need them, but we would

00:18:25.060 like to have them. Otherwise they give out even less electricity, but, but it's really interesting

00:18:29.780 because where they mine rare earths, for example, in inner Mongolia, uh, they're causing incredible

00:18:36.500 environmental destruction. And I have a number here. That's pretty amazing. The China ministry

00:18:41.220 of industry and information technology estimated that the cleanup costs in the Jiangxi province.

00:18:46.900 Okay. This is where they mine these things is going to cost $5.5 billion. Now, of course,

00:18:52.820 that's just clean up from one particular region for the mining of rare earths. And, you know,

00:18:58.580 I encourage people to have a look at Michael Moore's film. I don't generally don't promote

00:19:02.500 my stuff, but he did a film called planet of the humans and over about a two or three

00:19:08.420 minute span and speed it up action. He shows why wind and solar power are so incredibly damaging to

00:19:15.300 the planet. He doesn't focus on birds and bats, but he shows where the materials come from that are

00:19:20.820 used to make these things. You know, another example, our transition metals, like, um, like cobalt,

00:19:27.060 cobalt comes typically from the Congo in Africa. And believe it or not, not only do they use

00:19:33.060 essentially slave labor, but they're essentially using child slave labor. They have 10 year olds

00:19:38.660 crawling into small spaces in mines to pull out the cobalt. So when you're driving a Tesla or some

00:19:44.820 other vehicle that is using transition minerals or rare earths, you're indirectly supporting child

00:19:51.540 slave labor in other countries. And of course, terrible environmental controls. And that's why,

00:19:57.060 in my opinion, wind and solar, when you look at the overall picture, are the most environmentally

00:20:02.660 damaging energy sources on the planet. You know, as you were talking about, uh, Ottawa, I was thinking,

00:20:09.140 you know, these, if they do ever put up those wind turbines, they're not going to go in the city of

00:20:14.740 Ottawa. They're going to go in the unfortunate rural people's property all around Ottawa. And 1.00

00:20:20.820 it's, it's environmental colonialism. And this from the side of the political argument that literally

00:20:28.900 won't shut up about colonialism. And that kind of takes me to the next thing that I want to talk to

00:20:33.460 you about, because you have some, I think, pretty solid theories about where this is all coming from.

00:20:40.740 Yes, exactly. You know, we have to realize that most of the heads of the environmental movement

00:20:46.020 are bachelors of arts. They're people with degrees in history and philosophy and not scientists.

00:20:51.780 That's weird. No, you virtually never see somebody with a degree in engineering heading up a climate

00:20:57.220 activist group, which is a shame because, well, I guess they'd quit the job because they realize 0.95

00:21:01.460 how ridiculous. But, but, um, what you have is a lot of BA graduates and you have to look at what

00:21:08.340 were they indoctrinated with as they went through their bachelor programs? Well, in the last few

00:21:14.020 decades, a new form, a new philosophy has come to surface, excuse me, which is called postmodernism.

00:21:22.420 And postmodernism is a very weird sort of philosophy. What they do is they reject the fundamentals of the

00:21:29.700 enlightenment. Now, what it boils down to is the enlightenment, excuse me. There we go. Must be

00:21:36.740 my allergies. The enlightenment actually started, you know, 17th, 18th century from Europe, where in

00:21:43.940 fact, what was promoted was reason for making decisions based on evidence and a respect for

00:21:51.140 alternative points of view and debate to try to find compromises where people would actually come up

00:21:57.060 with the best solutions for your society. And, you know, it didn't mean that there were always

00:22:01.540 peaceful, these discussions, but generally speaking in universities, if you go back 50 years ago, you

00:22:07.460 find that people wanted to come to good, solid conclusions based on reason with true empirical

00:22:13.700 evidence, real observational data. But, you know, in the 1960s, there was a new movement which started in

00:22:19.780 the art, actually in art, you know, actually paintings called postmodernism. And postmodernism did some

00:22:26.260 very weird things. They rejected the fundamentals of the enlightenment. They said that we should be

00:22:32.900 actually making decisions not based on reason or evidence at all. It should be based on things like

00:22:38.580 feelings and things like, you know, what sort of identity group you're in. And that is, in fact,

00:22:43.940 what indeed came up in the 80s, 90s, because postmodernism basically said there were no truths. There were no

00:22:50.660 truths at all. And if it feels good, do it. Yeah. But it was more of a theoretical thing that was just

00:22:57.540 in the universities. So you sort of shrug and say, oh, well, they're always going to examine really

00:23:01.540 crazy stuff. But what happened was that postmodernism became applied. They started to apply it to things

00:23:09.700 like racism. And of course, that led to critical race theory, which essentially says that the only people

00:23:15.380 who can be racist are white people. And the only people who can be sexist are, in fact, men. So I

00:23:20.900 mean, postmodernism leads to this really weird social justice theory, capital SJ. It's not social

00:23:27.220 justice in the sort of normal sense, where you think that, you know, we want to help poor people,

00:23:31.940 we want to help disadvantaged people. Social justice with a capital SJ is a new thing that is based on

00:23:38.100 postmodernism. It's essentially, from what I understand, it's a form of applied postmodernism.

00:23:44.100 And there's a really outstanding book that is just being published. I just finished it,

00:23:48.660 actually. And I'll hold up. It's on Audible right now. It's called Cynical Theories. Cynical

00:23:54.020 Theories is a really outstanding explanation of how the left have been completely bamboozled

00:24:00.420 by these postmodern people. What's happening is that postmodernism is becoming the sort of

00:24:08.180 doctrine of the day, especially for universities, where people are being taught this really

00:24:13.380 wacko theory that rejects the whole foundations of the Enlightenment, that you don't make decisions

00:24:20.020 based on evidence. You base your decisions on things like identity politics. In other words,

00:24:26.260 it doesn't matter so much what you say. It matters more who you are, whether you're a black, you know,

00:24:32.340 a black woman, for example, would have more credibility, more significance in the debate 1.00

00:24:42.900 than much of what you were actually saying. Now, this is indeed the kind of situation that the heads

00:24:49.700 of today's environmental movement were inculcated with when they went through university. So you see it

00:24:55.860 all the time. I mean, I saw a debate the other day from James Taylor of the Heartland Institute

00:25:01.140 with environmentalists, and he was showing that virtually every single one of their charges about

00:25:07.060 climate change, you know, more hurricanes, it's not true. You know, sea level rising beyond

00:25:11.780 comprehension, it's not true. Polar bears is three times as many now as there were in 1960s,

00:25:16.980 temperatures only risen a degree since 1880. James was bringing up all these true facts about climate,

00:25:23.860 but it didn't matter. The environmentalists were still, you know, passionately absorbed with their

00:25:29.140 philosophy, their emotions, their feelings. And that is indeed what is driving postmodernism.

00:25:35.700 And as I say, it's really a very big danger to our society because you're seeing it, for example,

00:25:41.860 censoring people to cancel culture. They are not open to debate. They think, and this sounds really

00:25:47.620 nutty, you got to read this book to really understand it. They think that even debate using reason,

00:25:54.020 and logical, you know, arguments with evidence and empirical data, that that in itself is not woke,

00:26:02.260 okay? That is not the way to come to conclusions, because they think that the whole concept of

00:26:07.940 rational debate based on reason with empirical evidence is something that was originated by white 0.98

00:26:14.180 male Westerners. And so as a consequence, the whole system is, it's completely corrupted, 0.97

00:26:21.220 it's unable to come to any social justice type conclusions. And, you know, it's a hard thing to

00:26:27.620 explain because postmodernism, especially applied most postmodernism is not only very dangerous,

00:26:33.300 it's also quite difficult to figure out. You know, and I was corresponding last night with Dr. Patrick

00:26:39.860 Keeney, who's a visiting scholar at the Center for Multiculturalism and Education Policy in Thailand

00:26:46.100 at the University of Chiang Mai. And here's what he said. And this is a quote from his email,

00:26:50.820 and he said I could quote it on air, because I think it's really important that people understand

00:26:55.700 what is driving this totally wacko environmental extremism. I mean, if you look at Ottawa's plan,

00:27:01.940 it is really crazy. Yeah. So what's driving it? Well, it's, it's environmental postmodernism,

00:27:07.220 essentially. And I'll read to you what he said to me. I think that environmental extremism

00:27:12.500 is anti enlightenment, anti enlightenment, and illiberal, and an excellent example of applied 0.98

00:27:18.820 postmodernism. The Greta Thunbergs of the world have little time for actual science, which is always

00:27:25.460 defensible or defeasible, and open to correction, interpretation, etc. The climate activists,

00:27:32.020 or at least a significant portion of them, are on a crusade to redeem the world, which is readily

00:27:38.020 divisible into believers and non believers. In their understanding, one is either a saint or a sinner,

00:27:44.660 there's nothing in between. Increasingly, we seem to think that the science around any topic is settled,

00:27:51.300 so there's no need for debate. And by the way, that is a common ingredient of postmodernism,

00:27:56.820 and in particular, applied postmodernism. They will not debate. You are wrong, they are right,

00:28:03.540 and that's all there is to it. The science is settled. Even in their mantra, it shows up. And

00:28:10.580 it's funny, because you talked about social justice. And as you were talking, I was furiously scribbling it

00:28:14.980 down. Social justice in the traditional sense is, you know, you help people until there are fewer

00:28:20.740 people left to help. And hopefully, one day, there will be no people left to help. But postmodern

00:28:25.220 social justice, the big S, big J, it's not about helping people. It's actually about creating victim

00:28:32.900 classes of people who feel helpless. You can't help them, because you've told them that they are

00:28:40.500 helpless, they are oppressed. And so there's no help to give them. Well, that's right. And you know,

00:28:45.540 people on the left have got to realize, it's interesting, the authors of this book

00:28:50.100 are people from the left. And what they're recognizing is that while, let's say, in the

00:28:54.340 United States, Democrats used to, on occasion, work with Republicans to come up with compromises,

00:29:00.260 what's happened is the progressive left have moved much further left. And they're now allying

00:29:05.940 themselves with these postmodern people. And you know, true liberals, I mean, people who support

00:29:10.660 classical liberalism, people who support the idea of, you know, open debate among alternative points

00:29:16.260 of view, I don't mean liberal party people, I mean, classical liberalism, they have to realize that

00:29:21.860 this postmodernism, especially applied postmodernism is vehemently against liberal values. I mean, as it

00:29:28.340 says here, lip, you know, this doctor, I was reading to you previously, he writes, liberalism favors universal

00:29:34.580 human values and human dignity, while postmodernism favors group identity and victimhood, just like you

00:29:40.660 were saying, liberalism encourages disagreement and debate as a means of securing the truth. At the

00:29:46.660 same time, postmodernism rejects these as merely reinforcing the dominant discourse and rejects the

00:29:53.540 notion of the truth, insisting that we can only discover our personal truth, that it all varies depending

00:29:59.540 on the person's feelings. Liberalism accepts that the statements can correspond to reality,

00:30:05.300 while these other people, they say that words, words can ever, they deny that words can ever

00:30:12.100 correspond to reality. So it's all a language game in their eyes. Yeah. And that's why they focus so hard

00:30:18.100 on their version of 1984 is news speak, you know, how you refer to things to them defines those things.

00:30:25.220 My truth, my truth. People have got to learn about this, because this is what's driving,

00:30:31.380 not just the extreme environmentalism, but the critical race theory, post-colonial,

00:30:36.500 all kinds of things are being driven by this. And I'll tell you, our society, especially in the

00:30:40.740 universities is being ruined. Well, Tom, I'm so glad that you recognize this. And you're

00:30:45.700 articulated in such a way that, as you were talking, light bulbs are just going off in my head.

00:30:50.580 Um, you know, when, when they say the science is settled, well, that's because they're debating

00:30:55.140 with emotion and there's no science in emotion, you know, like you and I could say whatever,

00:31:00.100 whatever true facts there are, none of it matters to them. Now, Tom, um,

00:31:05.540 there's a wasp in my studio and it's probably going to bite me.

00:31:09.140 But, um, modern wasp, you better watch it. 0.99

00:31:13.700 You probably, uh, Tom, I wanted to give you a chance to let everybody know where they can

00:31:19.220 find the very important work that you're doing, but also support the very important work that

00:31:24.260 you're doing because unlike these huge environmental organizations, you're not that you don't have

00:31:29.300 these deep pocketed us foundations, dumping money on you. You're just a little grassroots guy

00:31:34.500 grinding it out to change things. Yeah, that's right. Well, we did, we had a contractor do some

00:31:39.700 research. Um, you know, a group of us a few, uh, about a year ago, looking at what is it that's

00:31:44.820 really driving the climate scare. And we decided that what was necessary to oppose it was to create

00:31:50.820 a new nonprofit in Canada, which we call international climate science coalition,

00:31:54.740 Canada, and people can check it out on the web at ICSC dash Canada.com. And we'll be actually

00:32:00.900 promoting the idea that governments should not be focused on trying to stop climate change, 0.62

00:32:05.940 which of course is ridiculous. They should focus on adapting to climate change as it occurs and get

00:32:11.380 ready for what's inevitably going to happen. So people can support us. If you go to ICSC dash

00:32:16.580 Canada.com and, uh, you know, in a couple of weeks, you're going to see some interesting results

00:32:22.500 what we're going to be attacking because a lot of what's going on in Ottawa is about to spread

00:32:27.060 across the country. If we don't stop it here. Well, that's great. And we'll have you back on to, uh,

00:32:32.580 announce what you're planning to do next. You've given me a hint and I think, uh,

00:32:36.740 our rebel viewers and supporters are going to love it. Uh, Tom, thank you so much for making the time

00:32:41.700 to come on the show. I know you and I are both up against the clock. Um, but we will have you back

00:32:46.500 on very, very soon. Just a couple of weeks. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Tom. Bye-bye.

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00:33:19.300 Friends, this is a drum beat that I play all the time, but major municipalities, particularly here in

00:33:25.540 Alberta are approaching election season again. So I think it needs to be said one more time.

00:33:31.620 Local politics are the ones that affect you most and first, and yet conservatives, we rarely focus

00:33:38.180 on municipal politics the way we should. Our local municipal politicians are just as good as our federal

00:33:45.780 and provincial ones at wasting your money on dumb ideas. We have to not only hold them to account, 0.98

00:33:52.740 but we also have to find some good conservatives to replace these bad liberals. Well, everyone,

00:34:00.020 that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here

00:34:04.500 at the same time in the same place. Well, maybe not the same place, who knows where I'll be,

00:34:08.660 but I'll be back here next week. And remember,

00:34:10.980 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - June 24, 2021

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Canadian Postmodernism and Bad Green Policies

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