Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ How the World Economic Forum is using climate change to exert control

00:00:00.000 The environmentalist movement and the World Economic Forum, they're skipping down the road to world domination.

00:00:06.400 My guest tonight explains how.

00:00:09.040 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:11.280 The Gunn Show.

00:00:41.280 The environmentalist movement for a very long time.

00:00:43.900 For example, before Christmas, she did a really great video on the Friends of Science YouTube channel wherein she explained how the World Economic Forum was interested in exactly what kind of Christmas tree you plan to have in your house.

00:00:57.640 And they gave out their recommendations based on the climate footprint of your Yuletide celebrations.

00:01:04.040 It's that ridiculous, but it is that extent to which these people want to control every aspect of your life because they can.

00:01:15.660 They control all the levers of power.

00:01:18.140 So joining me today in an interview we recorded, well, earlier this morning, is my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science to discuss all things World Economic Forum and how that joins hands with the environmentalist movement to tell you exactly how to live.

00:01:36.380 Check it out.

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00:02:06.860 Coven, maybe.

00:02:10.100 That's coming up at the end of May.

00:02:12.700 And Michelle, tell us why we need to be worried about the World Economic Forum.

00:02:19.060 Because even mainstream, sorry, before I cut you off, I just cut you off.

00:02:22.760 But mainstream politicians are telling us this is a conspiracy theory, that we shouldn't care about any of this.

00:02:28.420 Well, we should care quite a lot about it because the World Economic Forum, perhaps in its original formation, was a novel way to sort of shape the future of the world in a constructive way.

00:02:43.460 Probably up until around 2006, at that point, they had identified that a global price, oil price shock would be devastating to the world economy.

00:02:54.920 They'd also identified that a pandemic would be devastating to the world economy.

00:02:59.960 So, they had created this list of global risks.

00:03:04.340 Now, somehow, in the meantime, they completely forgot about that.

00:03:08.060 And in 2020, just before the pandemic hit, they had replaced all of these global risks with one, climate change.

00:03:15.860 So, you have to wonder why they did that and who's cashing in on the fact that, yes, there was a pandemic and, yes, there now is a global oil price shock.

00:03:32.060 In fact, an energy crisis worldwide.

00:03:34.440 So, one thing that's interesting is that Al Gore and his generation investment management and Questa Depot invested in what's called Fintrack companies just prior to the pandemic.

00:03:49.740 I think it was a couple of years prior.

00:03:51.800 And, of course, these Fintrack, or not Fintrack, Fintech, Fintech, pardon me.

00:03:56.580 And, of course, Fintech is financial tech.

00:03:59.020 So, these companies during the pandemic, you know, that were virtually worthless, suddenly exploded in value because everybody had to do things virtually.

00:04:10.720 And the same for all the big tech companies.

00:04:12.980 They're all signed on to the Great Reset.

00:04:16.220 And they think it's a grand idea.

00:04:18.260 They love the, you know, fourth industrial revolution.

00:04:23.160 They love that.

00:04:24.020 So, they made literally a killing during the pandemic.

00:04:31.020 And, you know, when you look at Canada's 2006 pandemic plan, which is a 550-page document, the word lockdown does not appear once in that document.

00:04:42.980 That was supposed to be our management plan going forward for any future pandemics after the SARS pandemic hit Toronto and Ontario region.

00:04:54.260 So, you know, I think people should look at the document that was released in the fall of 2019 called Exponential Roadmap.

00:05:04.420 Where this group of people associated mostly with the Stockholm Climate Resilience Centre and PICS, the Potsdam Climate Institute, which work closely with the Club of Rome, which works closely with the World Economic Forum.

00:05:25.760 In this document, Exponential Roadmap, they wanted to cut global emissions in half by 2030.

00:05:34.980 Immediately after this document came out, Marianna Mazzucato, who is the modern monetary theorist economist who has been consulting with British Columbia, on their climate plans, she wrote a very influential op-ed saying, you know, if we aren't careful, we'll have to go into climate lockdown soon.

00:05:56.440 And immediately after that, in November, the UNEP issued a public statement saying that we're going to have to have economic lockdowns every year for the next decade.

00:06:11.540 They even issued this tweet and a little video, I'm pretty sure some people will remember it, called Lockdowns are Improving the World.

00:06:21.520 Lockdowns are Improving Cities.

00:06:23.400 And in it, they featured a single individual on a skateboard, skateboarding through a gutted, empty, dead city, a dystopian nightmare.

00:06:37.120 And the backlash was so strong that they actually deleted the tweet and took this thing down.

00:06:42.200 But that tells you that the World Economic Forum is very interested in lockdowns, that they were influential in the lockdowns,

00:06:51.520 that they are all connected to the big tech companies that didn't allow people to question anything and that profited by orders of magnitude during lockdowns,

00:07:04.340 while small and medium-sized businesses and individuals were gutted and killed and slaughtered by lockdowns.

00:07:12.520 Lockdowns that never appeared in any emergency plan and lockdowns that even the medical doctor in the States who is widely credited with a big role in eradicating smallpox,

00:07:28.680 he and a couple of other people wrote a paper, which I mentioned in my recent Freedom Talk.

00:07:34.780 And in it, they said that lockdowns would have such serious consequences that it should never, ever be considered.

00:07:42.840 So we have to think, here's this unelected, unaccountable, transnational organization, the World Economic Forum,

00:07:51.180 which now has host state status in Switzerland, which means it's been elevated to the same kind of global status as, say, the Red Cross.

00:08:02.460 Or the Vatican.

00:08:04.460 Or the, yeah.

00:08:06.640 It's been given, like, state status.

00:08:09.400 Yeah, and this gives you a kind of diplomatic immunity, gives you, you know, other kinds of special privileges, right?

00:08:17.400 And it was in 2015 that they were granted that right after the COP26, or the COP21 conference, yeah, where the Paris deal was made.

00:08:30.780 So you can see they're also influential in the climate movement.

00:08:34.280 And, of course, who gave Greta a global stage? 1.00

00:08:38.000 The World Economic Forum.

00:08:39.700 And who then put Greta on the front page of Time?

00:08:44.280 Mark Bainoff of Salesforce, who is part of the World Economic Forum and who owns Time magazine.

00:08:51.120 And there's a discussion about this, these people in this book, showing how they're manipulating markets and preening themselves.

00:09:02.680 And, in fact, I've got another book here that I'm just reading.

00:09:05.420 I just started it.

00:09:06.820 Davos Man.

00:09:10.340 Oh, the billionaires devoured the world.

00:09:13.440 And in the opening part here, the author is talking about how Bainoff was saying that, you know, we CEOs saved the planet during the pandemic because we were such great guys.

00:09:40.180 And this author is just astounded that he could even think of that when all these small businesses and individuals were suffering terribly.

00:09:51.880 And he's patting himself on the back because he claimed that, you know, we're essential workers and we saved the world.

00:09:57.860 So, I can't find it right now, but it's disgusting to think that these are the kind of people who are part of the World Economic Forum.

00:10:07.140 They have no regard for you as an individual.

00:10:09.780 They don't care about small business.

00:10:11.960 They want to shape the world in a way that they think will be profitable to them in the future.

00:10:18.060 And they don't care about you, even though in their mission statement, they say that everything that they do is, let's see, where is it?

00:10:32.280 Here it is.

00:10:34.240 Moral and intellectual integrity is at the heart of everything that the World Economic Forum does.

00:10:40.060 So, why would you take a 16-year-old girl who's not a climate scientist, give her a world stage, scare millions of children, especially, and also many adults around the world, for Greta to say, I want you to feel the panic, the fear I feel every day.

00:10:58.740 And in 2021, when she was asked about that, when testifying to U.S. Congress, Republican Congressman Norman asked her, what's the science behind your comment?

00:11:10.940 She said, oh, it's just a metaphor.

00:11:14.200 This is the World Economic Forum who gave this girl a stage to scare people. 0.99

00:11:20.180 And then they claim that moral and intellectual integrity is at the heart of everything the WEF does.

00:11:26.240 Hold hard green.

00:11:27.160 Clintel, the group of over a thousand scientists and scholars who say that there's no climate emergency, they sent a letter to the Swiss government saying that they should remove the host status of the World Economic Forum for this.

00:11:44.200 Effectively, it's child abuse.

00:11:46.180 It's a crime against humanity to scare little children in this way.

00:11:50.580 But you see how powerful these people are.

00:11:53.320 And like in an individual country, you could probably go after some of these corporations or individuals if they were doing that.

00:12:01.980 But because it's this transnational, unelected, unaccountable group of people who are very interconnected and have very interconnected commercial interests, you know, there's almost nothing you can do.

00:12:15.280 It's outside the sovereignty of our laws for most for the most part.

00:12:20.660 And I'll stop my rant there.

00:12:22.140 But you can see it really worked up.

00:12:24.180 No, no, there's so much to unpack there.

00:12:26.060 And as you were writing, I was making notes.

00:12:28.460 You know, it's true, the rhetoric, this fear-mongering rhetoric that the World Economic Forum allowed Greta Thunberg to spew with impunity.

00:12:40.980 And I say that now, especially because she's an adult.

00:12:43.060 So she's of age.

00:12:44.260 So I will spare no criticism at this point.

00:12:46.300 But people, for example, as you were talking, I remembered a climate activist died after setting himself on fire at the Supreme Court.

00:12:54.780 And that was, I think, just last month in April, driven by this sort of rhetoric that the World Economic Forum gives platform to.

00:13:02.580 That's one death, just one.

00:13:04.260 But we know that people react like this all the time where they self-sterilize because, you know, the world's going to end.

00:13:09.860 So why even bring children into this mess?

00:13:12.940 Yes. And, you know, the reason I said, you know, I'm not feeding into conspiracy theories when I say, like, they're being treated as though they are the Vatican.

00:13:21.560 I don't mean that in, oh, you know, like the Vatican is this evil cabal.

00:13:25.600 I mean, that's an organization elevated.

00:13:29.640 Yeah. Holy status.

00:13:31.220 Yes. Holy status where they get this special state status.

00:13:34.380 And as you were talking, I'm like, oh, yeah, there's the savior complex with the billionaires that saved the world.

00:13:40.560 Um, and, uh, that they are the only way like, you know, that they are the only way forward, which is very religious when you, when you hear about it.

00:13:52.740 And, um, you know, as you were talking about the climate change motives of these people, it reminded me of a video that you did, because if you pop open the front page of the World Economic Forum under their climate change section, which I'm always very interested in, because, um, these conferences are full of SUVs.

00:14:14.100 When they tell me I have to drive an unreliable electric car, um, they are talking about limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius to avoid catastrophe.

00:14:24.300 And I was talking about this last week with Tom Harris, when he was on the show, you did this incredible video where you went in your backyard and you put thermometers out and you said, okay, how do you even, how do you even decide what the global temperature is this average global temperature that we can't go past when we can't even figure out what the temperature is in someone's backyard.

00:14:45.220 When you get the temperature on your phone or on your computer and it says, oh, you know, like in Elk Island Park, which is the closest one to me, um, it's going to be 15 degrees today, but that's only at that moment at that specific weather station, but literally three feet away, it can be drastically different.

00:15:04.480 And so how do they even do this?

00:15:06.420 How do they scare us with this number when there's no possible way that you can measure it?

00:15:10.360 Right. And you can make it more or less simply by adding or removing a few thermometers.

00:15:16.800 You can say, well, you know, that monitoring station is not operating properly and a lot of them actually aren't so, you know, but you can remove it from the mix and then therefore you can have a higher or lower, uh, temperature average.

00:15:32.380 And, you know, it's ludicrous.

00:15:34.040 It's actually not measuring the real temperature.

00:15:36.600 It's measuring the temperature anomaly based on a 30 year average.

00:15:41.100 Uh, this is what the GISS measures and the anomaly measurements are made between stations that are 1200 kilometers apart.

00:15:50.580 So you can go to the NASA website and read, um, a piece called the elusive surface air temperature.

00:15:59.240 And that's what I based that little video on.

00:16:02.580 Um, and in it, they say that to actually get a full representation of what a temperature would be in any location, you'd have to have a stack of thermometers, 50 feet high.

00:16:12.580 Uh, so, and then you'd have to have those stacks everywhere in that location.

00:16:18.180 And in my backyard, I had a 22 degree difference in temperature between the, the, uh, the, uh, monitors, thermometers.

00:16:29.560 You know, it's so fascinating because they keep driving home.

00:16:32.220 It's like 1.5 degrees or we're all going to die, but you could just change that by putting the thermometer under a tree.

00:16:40.740 That's how easily these statistics are gamed and, but they're still writing these huge policies that affect our lives based on this 1.5 degree Celsius goal.

00:16:52.300 Yeah.

00:16:52.440 And I even saw Andrew Weaver, who's sort of the king of climate science in Canada, talking on, um, uh, webinar, um, through the UBC Okanagan.

00:17:03.280 And in his presentation, he said that the 1.5 degree Celsius is actually a political target.

00:17:09.560 Yeah.

00:17:09.900 It's not scientific.

00:17:11.500 So the other thing that I was thinking about, I, you know, I wasn't feeling well a couple of months ago and I was thinking 1.5 degrees, you know, when you got that thermometer in your mouth, you know, if you go over 1.5 degrees, you're very sick, right?

00:17:27.500 Yeah.

00:17:27.680 So they've anthropomorphized this scientific parameter and that's why we also see the earth, you know, often with the earth is sick and it's, you know, sweating and it's got a, it's got a thermometer in its mouth.

00:17:40.820 I've seen that one too.

00:17:41.920 Yeah.

00:17:42.300 And an ice pack on its head.

00:17:44.000 It's got earth.

00:17:44.640 It's got a fever.

00:17:45.860 Yeah.

00:17:45.960 So they've actually, you know, it's a very tricky, subtle psychological ploy.

00:17:50.680 Again, to scare the public in something that is quite visceral for people.

00:17:56.520 You know, some of these little thermometers now, they have a beeper on them.

00:17:59.940 So if you go above a certain temperature range, it'll beep to tell you like, this is dangerous.

00:18:04.860 Go to emergency.

00:18:05.680 Now, I wanted, you touched on something when, in your initial rant, which I just really, I really enjoyed, but you talked about just the anti-humanness of, or anti-humanity of the World Economic Forum where they're discussing, you know, well, these, these COVID lockdowns worked because look, the greenhouse gas emissions went down when we locked everybody in their homes and destroyed their lives.

00:18:32.260 So let's consider doing this going forward.

00:18:35.920 And I thought, what an awful thing to advise because the human cost is so great.

00:18:43.960 I saw this just, it just came out yesterday.

00:18:48.000 Alberta saw a significant increase in excess deaths during the pandemic, especially among young people.

00:18:54.820 So these are not people who died of or with COVID.

00:18:58.320 These are young people who were just dying through suicide, through deaths of despair, through drug overdoses, through loneliness, delayed medical care.

00:19:12.180 Not because the doctors weren't available, because they were trying to keep the hospitals empty for a surge that never actually came.

00:19:19.060 And people are, people are literally dying.

00:19:22.300 So when you say, when you use words like slaughter, and they have blood on their hands, and death, they do.

00:19:28.980 These are, this is what will happen annually, if we consider doing what the World Economic Forum wants us to do to lower greenhouse gas emissions.

00:19:38.260 Right, and you have to, you know, going back to that item I mentioned, exponential roadmap.

00:19:45.420 If you go through that PowerPoint, you'll find that all of the things that happened during lockdown were recommended there.

00:19:54.040 They wanted to stop commuting.

00:19:56.780 You know, they saw transportation as the huge thing.

00:19:59.740 And so what happened during lockdown, no school buses, no parents driving kids to school, no one going to medical appointments, or very few people going to medical appointments, very few, or a reduction of the huge number of nursing and doctor care staff going to and from hospitals.

00:20:19.700 Shut down of many of the hospital equipment, you have to realize that the medical community and industry contributes 5% of global GHGs, apparently.

00:20:35.760 And there are Canadian doctors who are contributors to an article in the British Medical Journal calling for net zero health care.

00:20:43.740 And they want to cut health care emissions in half by 2030.

00:20:48.500 That's only eight years away.

00:20:52.140 And in their article, they claim that because of the pivot that was so great during the COVID lockdown, that it should be easy to do this.

00:21:03.900 Now, the only easy way to do this is to go through hospitals and unplug sick people.

00:21:10.500 The only easy way to do that is to let sick people live in pain, not treat them, and let them take medical assistance in dying.

00:21:22.040 I have to say this is an economic consideration that is rippling around the world, this whole idea of net zero health care.

00:21:30.260 And in the UK, they have a journal called geriatrics and climate change.

00:21:39.160 And they have geriatrics in a time of climate change, where they're actually measuring elderly people's carbon footprint as an energy user.

00:21:48.320 So, you know what that means?

00:21:50.140 You're using too much energy.

00:21:51.820 You've used up your carbon footprint, and we don't need you anymore.

00:21:55.040 You're a useless eater.

00:21:56.420 You might be someone's grandma or grandpa, but we just don't need you anymore.

00:22:01.040 This is the kind of thinking that's behind this.

00:22:03.880 This is a depopulation agenda.

00:22:05.740 And it's very clear from many of the discussions at Davos that they like the idea of depopulation.

00:22:14.660 They don't like people.

00:22:16.960 At the last Davos in 2020, they had Jane Goodall saying, you know, all the climate problems would be solved if we just had 500 million people on Earth.

00:22:29.260 You know how many people that would mean getting rid of?

00:22:31.920 So, you know, is this whole idea of lockdowns to save the planet a plausible deniability of getting rid of a lot of people?

00:22:41.240 Getting rid of a lot of people.

00:22:43.360 When you read the Canadian Medical Association report that Deloitte did, the numbers are staggering.

00:22:52.440 The people who did not get treatment, did not get home care visits, are food insecure, killed themselves through opioid overdoses.

00:23:01.920 Whether accidental or intentional suicides.

00:23:05.560 And these, you don't have to be an actuary to see the ongoing effects of what lockdown has done to the world population.

00:23:15.700 And yet people say, oh, look at that.

00:23:18.440 We saved grandma with lockdown.

00:23:20.660 We didn't.

00:23:21.640 We didn't save a single person with lockdown.

00:23:24.120 We killed a whole bunch of them and we're going to kill a whole bunch more because they didn't get care.

00:23:29.440 Yeah.

00:23:29.680 And the damage done to little people, young people.

00:23:33.900 Yeah.

00:23:34.180 Their mental health is all messed up for a long time.

00:23:37.440 Yeah.

00:23:37.540 I mean, they're pretty resilient.

00:23:39.540 I mean, I hope they recover, but a lot of them won't.

00:23:43.060 Yeah.

00:23:43.200 And we've all heard stories of older people who are in nursing homes that are opting for medical assistance and dying because they're just so lonely.

00:23:54.880 And they don't know when the next lockdown is going to come.

00:23:58.620 There were plenty of stories about that that came out during the pandemic.

00:24:02.760 And what a loss.

00:24:04.440 That was somebody's grandma.

00:24:05.760 Right.

00:24:06.540 Who was driven to that through government-induced loneliness.

00:24:11.520 Right.

00:24:12.600 That's right.

00:24:13.060 And, you know, of course, the Canadian Parliamentary Budget Office put out a report just before they changed the MAID legislation in Canada showing how great the savings are if somebody just opts for MAID rather than continuing to live out to the end of their life.

00:24:32.580 You know, and again, I want to say, as I've mentioned to you before, my brother did opt for MAID.

00:24:38.100 He was in a chronic declining condition, and I supported his decision, but, you know, it shouldn't be used as a way just to get rid of people.

00:24:50.400 Or there's a case right now where there's a woman who's disabled and has some health issues and can't find the right kind of housing on her disability budget. 0.98

00:25:01.320 So her choice is made.

00:25:03.960 You know, this is what we've driven people into.

00:25:05.940 We've got a whole bunch of people out there who feel like they have no other choice.

00:25:13.180 That's it.

00:25:14.080 And it's people like the World Economic Forum people who have all the power, and they're very happy to do this.

00:25:21.800 And, you know, I think we also have to look at the insurers and the unfunded liabilities of many of these pension funds.

00:25:30.760 You know, we have a huge unfunded liabilities in Canadian pension funds in the States.

00:25:38.040 It's in the trillions of dollars.

00:25:40.560 Fraser Institute has a study about our unfunded liabilities.

00:25:44.300 And these are not being addressed in any concrete, practical manner.

00:25:51.580 And I have to ask the question, is this the solution that these clever kids came up with over at the World Economic Forum to solve this economic problem?

00:26:01.920 Because if you get rid of a lot of people, then there's a whole bunch of pensions you don't have to pay.

00:26:08.140 Right?

00:26:08.980 Yeah, definitely.

00:26:10.220 I mean, even again, if you go to the World Economic Forum's climate change page, there's this big headline that says, and again, this goes to their anti-humanity.

00:26:21.160 Russia's war in Ukraine will have a huge impact on the environment.

00:26:26.560 Here's why.

00:26:27.700 That's their concern.

00:26:29.380 That's their concern, is how war is going to drive up climate change.

00:26:34.540 And they say it threatens to slow the clean energy transition.

00:26:40.100 Oh, yeah.

00:26:40.920 And it's curious that the World Economic Forum is supporting Ukraine because they're actually based in Davos in Switzerland.

00:26:48.640 Right?

00:26:48.860 They have host state status in Switzerland.

00:26:52.140 Switzerland traditionally has been a neutral country in all the big conflicts of the world.

00:26:57.480 But, you know, here's the World Economic Forum and rah-rah, they're right in there for Ukraine. 0.99

00:27:02.720 And I'm saying, you know, it's a tragedy that this battle is going on there, that this conflict is going on.

00:27:10.060 It's a tragedy that Russia invaded Ukraine.

00:27:12.880 I'm not discounting that at all.

00:27:14.800 But I'm questioning, why is the World Economic Forum on the side of Ukraine when they're in Switzerland?

00:27:23.300 And the one thing I can suggest is that it's a climate war, because the World Economic Forum wants to have a global price on carbon by 2030.

00:27:32.000 That's in their little video of, you know, by 2030, you'll own nothing and be happy.

00:27:39.680 But Russia, of course, is a huge oil and gas producer.

00:27:43.960 They're supplying most of Europe with oil and gas and coal.

00:27:48.420 And they wouldn't want to have a carbon price, just like Alberta doesn't want to have a carbon price, because it destroys your market, right?

00:27:57.900 Your profit margins.

00:28:00.160 So, you know, there's this other kind of climate thing in the background between the World Economic Forum and Russia's interests or the interest of any part of the world that has lots of fossil fuels.

00:28:11.440 So, you know, it could be that the World Economic Forum is, you know, it's in this little tiny country of Switzerland where most of the money of the world is hiding.

00:28:22.480 So they have all the money, but they don't have any fossil fuels, right?

00:28:26.960 Yeah.

00:28:27.520 So maybe this is their way of getting it.

00:28:30.280 Maybe this is their plan.

00:28:32.140 And I believe there is a plan to, you know, make sure that everyone has a personal carbon ration.

00:28:38.580 So all these people with private jets and big yachts and people who fly to environmental conferences to get an award, these people are the ones who are trying to make sure that you have a personal carbon ration on your VAX port.

00:28:54.240 So that, you know, maybe you can't buy gas anymore, because you surpassed your personal carbon ration.

00:29:03.040 But, you know, their theory is that, well, that's okay, because you can just buy more credits from someone who has some that they haven't used.

00:29:11.120 You know, so that would change the entire economic structure of the world to an energy economy.

00:29:17.180 And no one voted for that.

00:29:19.440 Yeah.

00:29:19.900 I didn't.

00:29:21.240 No.

00:29:21.420 You know, and it's interesting when you hear them say, oh, the solution to the skyrocketing energy prices caused by the war between Russia and Ukraine and the stranglehold that Russia has on Western Europe through natural gas exports, the solution to that for these people is an immediate green transition.

00:29:45.680 So I don't think they actually have a problem with this war, however it shakes out, because for them, the ends justify the means.

00:29:54.520 And the ends for them is an immediate transition to green energy, not ramping up exports from friendly countries who can put liquefied natural gas in a tanker ship and send it off to Germany, like Australia, like Canada, like the United States.

00:30:10.520 They don't see that as the solution in any of this.

00:30:14.720 Yeah.

00:30:15.280 In fact, they just issued a report today, which is called Fostering Effective Energy Transition.

00:30:23.160 And that's exactly what they're doing.

00:30:24.660 They issued that report with Accenture, which is a big sort of accounting firm, global type of accounting firm.

00:30:32.400 And you'd think that these dummies, since they're supposedly so smart, you'd think these dummies would know that if you're going to make a wind turbine, you're going to need three essential elements, lots of coal, lots of oil and lots of natural gas.

00:30:48.940 You can't make them without it.

00:30:50.720 So, to claim that we can go to an energy transition of wind and solar and not use oil, natural gas and coal is simply ludicrous.

00:30:59.880 So, who are they pulling the wool over the eyes on, the ordinary citizens?

00:31:06.900 You know, but they want this energy transition because wind and solar create renewable energy credits, which are like tradable monopoly money.

00:31:15.520 So, they don't create much energy, but they don't care if you don't have energy.

00:31:20.280 I mean, look what's happening in the UK now.

00:31:22.600 I think energy bills are expected to go up something like to 3,000 pounds a year.

00:31:28.300 A lot of energy providers there have gone bankrupt because they bet on markets at a price that they can't afford anymore.

00:31:37.380 So, you know, the public there, they've already had a heat or eat problem for many years.

00:31:44.560 We had Benny Pizer here, I think it was in 2013, and he told us it was called to heat or to eat, Europe's failed climate policy.

00:31:54.120 And at that time, you know, grandmothers and grandfathers were choosing to stay in bed on Christmas Day because they didn't have enough money to heat their flat and they didn't have enough money for a festive meal.

00:32:05.840 So, I think about 3,000 premature deaths have been happening every year there for over a decade because of this heat or eat poverty.

00:32:17.060 And many children grow up malnutritioned because of heat or eat poverty.

00:32:21.320 So, you know, these policies literally are killing people.

00:32:26.200 And in the meantime, you know, we just did an event with Joanne Nova from Australia last couple of nights ago.

00:32:34.080 And she shows how China is just buying up as much coal and oil and gas as it can buy, you know, laughing at us.

00:32:44.960 Russia's laughing at us.

00:32:46.380 So, you know, what are we doing listening to these people from the World Economic Forum who don't even know how wind and solar are made and who predicted in 2006 that a global oil price shock and a pandemic would be devastating to the world economy and then sat back and let both those things happen.

00:33:05.880 Yeah. Yep. Who are these people? Yeah. They should be in jail.

00:33:10.960 Well, and as you were talking about the carbon ration that they would like us all to have, just so people know, this is not a conspiracy theory.

00:33:19.500 As you were talking, I plugged that into the search engine or the search bar on the World Economic Forum website just out of the corner of my eye here.

00:33:27.480 And they are promoting this. This credit card has a carbon emission spending limit.

00:33:33.880 So what this credit card that they're promoting does is it analyzes your spending on your credit card and then sort of cuts you off once you get to a certain point.

00:33:45.740 And one of the ways they do this is through your spending on food.

00:33:49.440 And you'll never guess, Michelle, you'll never guess meat lovers, according to these people, have a much higher carbon footprint by diet, but your vegetarians and your vegans much, much lower, even though I get even if your avocado has to come from thousands of miles south, the beef that's just walking around in my yard.

00:34:13.500 But apparently one of those is a higher carbon footprint, according to the World Economic Forum.

00:34:20.360 So this is not just carbon rationing in your life, but carbon rationing in the most basic fundamental thing that keeps you alive.

00:34:28.440 And that's nutrition. I think they want us malnourished. And I don't think that's a conspiracy theory.

00:34:34.060 Well, they want people to stop using more of the resources that they use. They don't want people to fly. 0.74

00:34:40.920 I mean, they had a little contest where they came up with all kinds of of aviation posters.

00:34:47.860 And one of them was a plane with the wing snapped off. And the headline is break the habit.

00:34:54.100 Well, they sure did that, didn't they? Yeah.

00:34:56.580 I'm not really keen to fly anywhere these days. Are you kidding me?

00:35:00.500 Have somebody sticking things up my nose? Me in a quarantine camp? I don't know.

00:35:05.440 You know, anyhow. So, you know, you just mentioned that this is not a conspiracy theory.

00:35:12.460 And it's not. You know, the Bank of Canada even has a great reset publication.

00:35:17.500 And you should know also that the Club of Rome has a publication on the climate emergency.

00:35:27.880 And of course, their solution is that we should just throw lots of your money at it and build wind and solar farms. 0.78

00:35:35.040 And yet in Recharge, which is a renewables online newspaper, last couple of weeks, they reported that the wind industry is just dying.

00:35:47.320 It's on its last legs.

00:35:49.040 Because, of course, you need all this energy to make wind turbines.

00:35:53.420 You need all the materials.

00:35:55.860 And the prices of all these materials are skyrocketing as well as the cost of energy.

00:36:00.940 So, it's said that some of the major wind turbine producers are actually running at a loss.

00:36:06.540 They're selling their turbines below cost simply to keep some people employed and to have cash flow.

00:36:13.900 But, you know, it's a dead end.

00:36:16.080 It can't go on.

00:36:18.080 So, you know, it's odd that Accenture and the World Economic Forum are somehow not aware of this reality.

00:36:25.700 It's odd that the federal government in Canada is not aware of this reality because they're promoting a clean electricity standard for Canada that would be reliant on wind and solar and hydro.

00:36:41.140 And they think they can hook up a national grid in Canada and that will solve the problem because they think there's so much power in the James Bay Dam that they could just send it to Alberta down a transmission line.

00:36:53.420 But, in fact, Quebec was propped up this winter by Ontario's natural gas because they don't have enough power on the grid, even with the big James Bay Dam.

00:37:05.920 And why?

00:37:06.700 Because most houses in Montreal are now electrically heated.

00:37:11.860 So, think what will happen to Canada if we go down this route.

00:37:15.360 It's insane.

00:37:16.920 It's just insane.

00:37:18.560 Yeah, it is insane, especially when you consider that Alberta is getting off coal.

00:37:22.020 And we are the Saudi Arabia of coal.

00:37:24.220 We have like 800 years of some of the cleanest burning coal under the majority of the province.

00:37:30.580 It literally comes out of the ground and you can just kick it out of the ground in some places.

00:37:35.140 It's so close to the surface.

00:37:36.600 It's easy to get to.

00:37:37.520 It's clean burning.

00:37:38.840 And yet we're getting away from it and focusing on unreliable and expensive electricity.

00:37:43.960 Friends of Science had a great video sort of over, I think it was over the Christmas break, where you broke down just how little wind and solar energy there is on the grid here in Alberta.

00:37:56.520 It was like two hours or something during the day over the course of a month that they could have run Alberta on solar or any sort of renewable energy.

00:38:07.020 Yeah, because people don't realize it's they always say, oh, well, the wind's always blowing somewhere.

00:38:11.860 The sun's always shining somewhere.

00:38:13.480 It's not true.

00:38:14.260 You know, the weather patterns move in and it'll be still all across the prairie sometimes for days.

00:38:21.840 Yeah.

00:38:21.940 You know, so and then people say, oh, well, storage will help that.

00:38:25.540 Well, it won't because even the biggest batteries will only give you a few minutes of power.

00:38:29.940 And they're really just meant for load shifting, like when there's a sudden change in demand or supply.

00:38:36.700 They can't power the province.

00:38:39.960 I think one of our professional engineers did a study.

00:38:44.420 We've got the true cost of wind and solar on our blog.

00:38:49.420 And I can't remember the exact number, but I think it's something in the trillions of dollars to have battery supply to prop up Alberta.

00:39:00.340 So at another study, I think it was sixty nine billion dollars for one cold day in Alberta would be the cost of batteries.

00:39:10.420 That was a wind's winter of discontent.

00:39:14.660 That one's called it's on LinkedIn.

00:39:17.300 Yeah.

00:39:17.540 You know, but it's very complicated to understand the grid.

00:39:20.980 So it's very easy to fool people.

00:39:22.900 So people should have a look at our show with Joanne Nova because it's called How to Destroy a Perfectly Good Grid in a Million Expensive Steps. 1.00

00:39:33.860 And she calls it Australia is the crash test dummy of renewables.

00:39:38.420 And it really is.

00:39:40.220 And it's so unnecessary because they have so much natural gas there.

00:39:44.860 Michelle, thank you so much for taking the time to be on the show today in relatively short notice.

00:39:50.640 I sort of just sprung this on you.

00:39:52.080 No problem.

00:39:52.820 Last night.

00:39:53.560 My pleasure.

00:39:54.480 Let us know how people can support the work that you do at Friends of Science, because frankly, you are up against billions and billions of dollars in foreign funding that floods into Canada to, you know, promote the climate scare, as Tom Harris would say.

00:40:10.420 And you're just a little mom and pop grassroots shop of actual scientists trying to spread the word and give people the tools and facts and arguments to take out into the world.

00:40:22.180 So how do people support you?

00:40:23.420 How do they get involved?

00:40:24.780 Well, you can become a member.

00:40:27.080 If you'd like, then you get all of our publications, our CLI-SCI, our extracts.

00:40:32.400 These give you a roundup of climate news, science, or politics from around the world that you won't see in the mainstream press.

00:40:40.020 And you can also just donate.

00:40:43.420 You can send an e-transfer to friends of contact at friendsofscience.org.

00:40:48.660 That's contact at friendsofscience.org.

00:40:53.020 There's a donate button on our website.

00:40:55.760 And if you can't come up with cash, then you can just share our material.

00:41:00.760 I will mention it is our 20th year of operation.

00:41:03.460 We are trying to raise $200,000 by the end of June.

00:41:06.900 We have 43,000 subscribers on YouTube.

00:41:11.440 And one of the people in one of our chats said, you know, if every one of these subscribers just gave you guys $12, you know, you'd be doing fine.

00:41:19.320 So, you know, $12, that's $1 a month.

00:41:23.200 $20 for our 20 years.

00:41:25.540 $200, $2,000, $200,000.

00:41:28.680 We'll take it all.

00:41:29.800 Because as you say, we're up against billions of dollars out there.

00:41:33.180 But, you know, it's not the money that counts.

00:41:35.660 What counts is the integrity and the truth, the facts, the full cost-benefit analysis.

00:41:42.980 And that's what we offer people.

00:41:45.840 And I cannot recommend your YouTube channel enough.

00:41:48.580 You take these big, crazy, horrible, overwhelming, I think purposefully complex ideas so that, you know, I think they're purposefully complex so that normal people are like, fine, I don't get it.

00:42:00.820 You take those big ideas.

00:42:01.820 You take those big ideas and you digest them down into a way that normal people can understand.

00:42:07.580 But tangible, you know, the impacts of people's bottom line on their grocery bill, you break that down incredibly.

00:42:17.000 It's a wonderfully concise way that you do this and often in like four minutes and less.

00:42:23.500 It's great.

00:42:23.920 I cannot recommend it enough.

00:42:25.760 Thank you.

00:42:26.220 Thank you very much.

00:42:27.020 Oh, and we do have a new one and actually a long one on polar bears.

00:42:31.360 So you might get a kick out of that one.

00:42:33.400 I watched it last night when I was working out.

00:42:34.940 It was great.

00:42:38.620 It was about the cult of Canute.

00:42:41.280 I know.

00:42:41.620 I know, Michelle.

00:42:43.800 I want to thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:42:45.840 We'll have you back on again very, very soon.

00:42:47.400 Thank you.

00:42:47.880 My pleasure.

00:42:48.860 Thanks.

00:42:56.440 You know, Friends of Science, along with the International Climate Science Coalition,

00:42:59.880 and a really a small handful of other organizations like Debunk are up against billions of dollars

00:43:06.200 in foreign funding that flows into Canada to block our oil and gas development, to harm

00:43:11.080 our jobs and to harm the economy.

00:43:14.420 And yet they do just incredible work to sort of cut through the emotion and bring you the

00:43:19.920 facts of it all.

00:43:21.600 Now, this is the portion of the show where I hear from you.

00:43:26.000 I read your viewer letters.

00:43:27.560 If you'd like to send me a letter and have it read on air, and I sort of pick these at

00:43:31.060 random, just put gun show letters in your email subject line, and you can send that to

00:43:36.880 Sheila at rebelnews.com, and you could have your say.

00:43:42.560 Let's get to this letter from Steve Ryan.

00:43:46.360 He writes,

00:43:47.380 Hi, Sheila.

00:43:47.800 I was listening to Wednesday's podcast with Tom Harris, and it sparked my interest on

00:43:51.840 something in regards to Trudeau's eagerness to please his climate change puppeteers.

00:43:56.440 Has anyone asked Trudeau if he has began the procurement process to convert all federal

00:44:01.940 vehicles to electric and what the cost would be to taxpayers?

00:44:05.140 You know, it's interesting because Michelle always says stuff like this.

00:44:07.900 What is the full cost benefit analysis?

00:44:10.320 And I'm pretty sure that that is not a consideration when they are pushing for all electric vehicles

00:44:15.600 by, I think it's 2030.

00:44:17.540 We don't have a grid that would even remotely handle that.

00:44:20.320 But anyways, back to Steve's letter.

00:44:21.520 The federal government, not including the military, has an enormous amount of vehicles,

00:44:26.740 RCMP, federal agencies, etc., and it would be safe to assume the cost of this would be

00:44:30.820 astronomical.

00:44:32.580 It's astronomical in ways that people don't even understand quite yet.

00:44:37.380 For example, I saw an article in Black Locks.

00:44:41.020 I'm recording this Wednesday morning, so it came out Wednesday morning.

00:44:44.020 That shows that these electric car chargers that they put for the electric fleet of vehicles

00:44:51.320 that the federal government owns, they are often never, never used.

00:44:55.140 And this has been something that I have covered in the past where I went and got the usage rates

00:45:00.700 of all these federally erected electric car chargers sort of throughout the Ottawa area,

00:45:06.400 and they are often never, never used.

00:45:09.920 And even, you know, when the ministers are allowed to choose their own vehicle that the taxpayer

00:45:16.040 pays for, they almost never, never choose an electric car.

00:45:21.620 Likewise with, you know, associate ministers and bureaucrats that, you know, where we are covering

00:45:27.520 the cost of their transportation, they almost never, never choose electric vehicles.

00:45:33.420 Why would they?

00:45:33.920 They need a reliable car to get around in and do their job.

00:45:37.640 Those sort of unreliable cars, they're only for the people like you and me.

00:45:42.280 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:45:43.860 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:45:45.540 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:45:48.460 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:46:03.920 I'll see you later.

00:46:04.700 I'll see you at the back.

Rebel News Podcast - May 12, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ How the World Economic Forum is using climate change to exert control

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