Rebel News Podcast - May 10, 2023


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Legal immigrants fleeing persecution and violence suffer under Trudeau's open border policies


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What does Justin Trudeau's open border policies mean for people who are actually fleeing persecution and violence around the world? Then we've got the incredible story of a victory for truckers involved in the Coutts border blockade back in January and February of 2022.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, what do Justin Trudeau's open border policies mean for people who are actually
00:00:19.820 fleeing persecution and violence around the world?
00:00:23.000 Then, we've got the incredible story of a victory for truckers involved in the Coutts border
00:00:30.260 blockade back in January and February of 2022.
00:00:35.520 It's May 10th, 2023.
00:00:38.000 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, but you are watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:42.020 You're ready for freedom!
00:00:44.780 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:00:53.000 I want to show you a couple of clips from a video report done by my friend, Calgary-based
00:01:01.940 Rebel News reporter Adam Sos.
00:01:03.860 The clips are from an interview he conducted with Calgary Conservative MP Tom Kamich on the
00:01:10.120 damage caused by the Liberals' open-door policies at the southern border.
00:01:15.280 And these damages are happening to families who are trying to come to Canada the right
00:01:20.800 way.
00:01:21.520 The legal way.
00:01:22.200 The appropriate way.
00:01:23.640 The orderly way.
00:01:25.660 Actually, it's even worse than that because it's not really families that just want to
00:01:29.740 emigrate to Canada, but rather families that want to reunite in safety and freedom here
00:01:35.320 in Canada when one of them is stuck in a totalitarian hellscape, specifically the theocracy of Iran.
00:01:43.140 So, to be clear, one of the spouses in these instances is Canadian.
00:01:48.400 And the other is Iranian in a place plagued by an absence of civil rights, beatings and
00:01:55.680 kidnappings at the hands of the morality police and zero value placed on women and children.
00:02:01.000 And unfortunately, it's taking the Canadian government years to process the applications of these
00:02:08.480 people to allow the spouse in Iran to come to Canada to begin their lives here, to begin their 0.93
00:02:15.580 lives here in peace as a complete whole family.
00:02:19.260 Look at this.
00:02:20.260 So, these are Canadian citizens, permanent residents.
00:02:22.500 They're working in Canada.
00:02:23.640 Some of them have been working here for decades.
00:02:25.640 Legally here, the Canadians just like the rest of us, and all they want is to have their loved
00:02:29.680 one with them in Canada, their husband or their wife here.
00:02:33.380 And the government of Canada is making it really tough and difficult for them.
00:02:36.620 Now, is this type of three to five-year delay normal?
00:02:40.620 Is this something we would have seen in the past, or is this a direct consequence of Justin
00:02:44.420 Trudeau and the Liberal government?
00:02:45.500 No, so this department is a total disaster.
00:02:48.560 Since 2015, they've doubled the money assigned to the department.
00:02:52.460 They've doubled the staff.
00:02:54.300 There's a backlog.
00:02:55.280 All the applications before the pandemic, there was a 1.92 million backlog of applications.
00:03:01.240 During the pandemic, it went up to 2.9 million, and then they got it down again to about 2
00:03:06.080 million.
00:03:07.080 It took them about a year, a year and a half to get it down, and because of the public
00:03:09.740 service strike, their estimate could be another 100,000 applications backlogged extra on top
00:03:14.860 of everything else.
00:03:15.860 And I'll give you a number, because I even have it here, because I took the time.
00:03:18.060 I knew you'd be coming in.
00:03:19.060 So, spousal sponsorship back in 2019 was 12 months, and now they're taking on average 16 months.
00:03:24.860 But if you go by regions, so specific countries, and I have it here, Iran is 36 months.
00:03:29.640 36 months average, which means you're right, you know, some people are taking way longer,
00:03:34.040 some people are a little bit shorter, but because of the natural disaster in Turkey and
00:03:38.280 Syria, the big earthquake that happened, and then you have all of the unrest happening in Iran.
00:03:44.280 All of these people applications, typically at the Ankara visa processing office, are just
00:03:48.920 massively backlogged.
00:03:50.120 And as far as I know, the Liberals haven't put in any extra resources to try and expedite,
00:03:55.640 by getting to the point where a person in Canada, lawfully, legally here, a citizen of
00:04:00.040 Canada pro-resident is getting a yes or a no underapplication.
00:04:03.240 Imagine the terror and despair these couples are faced with, nearly daily.
00:04:10.040 There is a reason Stephen Harper closed Canada's Iranian embassy and then expelled Iranian diplomats
00:04:16.760 from Canada back in 2012.
00:04:19.400 At the time, it wasn't even safe for Canadian diplomats to be in Iran.
00:04:23.640 So imagine what it's like to be the wife of a Canadian stranded there. 0.76
00:04:28.440 Kamich is right when he says it's only a matter of time before someone is killed in Iran while 0.98
00:04:35.640 waiting to come to Canada.
00:04:37.240 Now, we know, obviously, the Liberal government has caused problems, hardships, economic dress for
00:04:42.760 people here, likely as a result of whether it be lost jobs, depression, some lives lost as a result
00:04:48.760 inevitably of inept government.
00:04:50.680 But what we're talking about here is there's legitimately a regime, there's serious concerns
00:04:56.360 about the safeties of these individuals in Iran and the government here.
00:04:59.960 Is it carelessness?
00:05:01.240 Is it ineptitude?
00:05:02.040 They're not acting on this.
00:05:03.320 And I don't know if we know, but is there a potential or have there been lives lost
00:05:07.480 in Iran, people waiting to come over?
00:05:10.040 So I haven't heard of any cases where somebody who's being sponsored to come to Canada was
00:05:15.160 killed in the protests by the Islamic Republic's regime, either the IRGC or the morality police
00:05:21.560 or some other group.
00:05:22.280 But that's just a question of time before it happens because you have, you know, hundreds
00:05:26.120 of thousand people taking to the streets.
00:05:28.680 I personally know of Canadian citizens in Canada who have had family members murdered by the regime
00:05:34.520 during the protests.
00:05:35.480 If you're, you know, Kurdish in one of the western provinces in Rajalat is what they call it.
00:05:42.200 Chances are, if you're in Canada, you have, you know, family members who have their properties
00:05:46.200 ransacked by the IRGC, people jumping your fences in the night, killing your cattle or you're
00:05:52.920 shooting at your home or stealing from you.
00:05:55.560 That is a common occurrence.
00:05:57.160 And I get videos sent of me of people who are of Persian heritage, Baluchi heritage,
00:06:02.040 where there's IRGC in the street shooting at protesters.
00:06:05.080 So it's just a question of time before it happens.
00:06:07.640 And you have, and it's a woman led protest in Iran.
00:06:11.240 So this is especially dangerous for women because they're all targets of the regime. 1.00
00:06:15.880 And there's a specific type of oppression that only the mullahs have come are capable of. 1.00
00:06:20.440 Putting the Iranian wives of Canadians in danger because of a failure to process paperwork
00:06:27.560 at the hands of the Liberals hardly seems like the actions of a feminist government,
00:06:33.240 that feminist government, the Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, won't shut up about. 1.00
00:06:38.920 Remember this?
00:06:39.960 And, you know, a person who is on his way to the coronation right now, um, but who right now
00:06:48.280 is the guy skiing in front, breaking through the snow, getting beaten up is our amazing Prime Minister.
00:07:01.000 And we have to remember he's breaking the trail for us, right?
00:07:04.120 And when he gets beaten up, it's for all of us.
00:07:06.760 I know we remember that.
00:07:08.200 One of the things that is remarkable about his leadership is he is a truly feminist Prime Minister.
00:07:22.200 And that is reflected in his cabinet.
00:07:26.680 But even more importantly, it's reflected in our policies.
00:07:30.600 But besides the very real danger to the safety of the Iranian stranded spouse in this instance,
00:07:38.120 imagine having to put off or delay starting your family because of Justin Trudeau's absolute ineptitude.
00:07:48.440 Some people may be robbed entirely of the ability to start families at all because Justin Trudeau,
00:07:55.320 to use a very Canadian term, ragged the puck on your family reunification.
00:08:01.240 While the wives and husbands of Canadians trying to do things the right way are put in real threat of danger and death,
00:08:09.320 the people who try to come to Canada the wrong way have had the red carpet rolled out for them.
00:08:15.020 And I can show you just how extensive this problem is with some data retrieved from an order paper question posed by Conservative MP Leanne Rood,
00:08:24.060 who seems to be trying to get a handle on just the full scope of the problem,
00:08:29.740 which has unfolded for years at Roxham Road, that little ditch crossing between Quebec and upstate New York,
00:08:37.260 where nearly all of the illegal border crossings to Canada occur.
00:08:42.220 Look at this.
00:08:43.100 Since Trudeau took office, 105,315 asylum seekers have flooded across at Roxham Road.
00:08:52.980 And it only took him eight years to finally do something about it after he first made it much, much worse
00:09:00.920 by inviting everybody to come that way with his obnoxious tweet, welcoming everybody to Canada.
00:09:08.600 In 2022, nearly 39,000 asylum seekers crossed into Canada via that ditch at Roxham Road.
00:09:17.580 And just this year, there were 9,000 asylum seekers in January and February alone,
00:09:28.140 people arriving via that ditch at Roxham Road.
00:09:31.600 But here's the chilling thing.
00:09:33.700 That would be 4,500 people per month in the dead of winter,
00:09:39.960 and we know those numbers explode over the summertime.
00:09:42.620 So Canada was on track at the bare minimum to see 54,000 asylum seekers flooding across the border
00:09:55.040 at that one location, if those numbers held.
00:09:59.160 There are still 7,558 illegal border crossers being put up in hotels as of March 16, 2023.
00:10:09.920 Meaning, Canadians have paid, all told, $128,521,372 on just hotels so far to accommodate asylum seekers to Canada.
00:10:29.960 Roxham Road is at least reportedly closed.
00:10:32.400 Questions remain as to how closed it is.
00:10:34.580 But since that road was closed, there's been something like 78 asylums approved for people who have come through.
00:10:42.200 Does it sort of set a bad precedent to have people who are coming in illegally then getting preferential treatment
00:10:48.360 when there are these people who they have a spouse who's a Canadian citizen,
00:10:52.660 they're trying to go through all the right steps, they're trying to do everything right,
00:10:55.600 and they're waiting for three years?
00:10:57.360 That's always been the problem with Roxham Road.
00:10:59.420 So for immigrants like me who were born in another country whose parents took the time to fill out all the applications illegally,
00:11:06.180 that's always going to be a really stark issue at the border.
00:11:10.840 So the Roxham Road was closed.
00:11:13.040 We called for it to be closed within 30 days.
00:11:15.040 We were told it wasn't that simple, and then it closed within 30 days,
00:11:18.380 exactly the way our leader Pierre Polliver said to do.
00:11:21.700 The people who are still crossing the border, there were exceptions made in the deal we signed,
00:11:25.840 or the Canadian government signed with the American government.
00:11:28.420 So the deal said that there are some public policy reasons,
00:11:31.680 certain people are still allowed to cross the border illegally.
00:11:34.860 If you're a minor, if you are one of the selected groups that the minister can designate,
00:11:40.020 if you have family in Canada, you can cross the border and make a claim.
00:11:43.480 But those people are going to be applying at the Immigration Refugee Board for refugee status as asylum claimants.
00:11:50.100 The permanent resident applications and spousal sponsorship is a totally different group of people at IRCC.
00:11:55.200 See, they're the people, PBO said there's 65% too many of them for the job that they're tasked to do right now.
00:12:01.960 So two different sets of people will be applying.
00:12:04.020 And even at the Immigration Refugee Board, it takes them 17 to 23 months, on average, to process an application.
00:12:10.280 So there's backlogs everywhere.
00:12:11.940 There's long wait times everywhere.
00:12:13.320 It doesn't matter which way you're trying to come to Canada.
00:12:15.560 Since 2015, the federal government, the liberal government, has totally screwed up our immigration system.
00:12:21.340 And the backlogs are entirely liberal created.
00:12:24.580 It makes you wonder why anybody would ever try to do things the right way in Justin Trudeau's Canada.
00:12:31.500 Stay with us on a border-related hopeful note.
00:12:35.060 Chad Williamson from Williamson Law joins us after the break to discuss a major legal victory on behalf of over a dozen truckers charged at Coutts, Alberta, for their anti-mandate demonstration at the border.
00:12:49.400 We'll be right back.
00:12:50.440 14 truckers were just, if you pay attention to the mainstream media or, for that matter, the government, let off the hook for their crimes at Coutts, Alberta.
00:13:11.220 But there's a much different story happening there.
00:13:13.880 And the man who made it happen, at least him and his team, is Chad Williamson from Williamson Law.
00:13:20.700 He's got the full story for us.
00:13:22.200 And I'm very happy to welcome Chad back to the show.
00:13:25.860 Chad, how's it going?
00:13:27.760 It's very busy, as always.
00:13:30.740 As you know, we deal with not just trucker issues, but a whole host of issues surrounding constitutional freedoms, charter rights.
00:13:39.060 We obviously run a pretty busy practice just doing boring law for regular old Albertans, and obviously that stuff's important too.
00:13:46.600 So we're slammed.
00:13:48.440 I'm coming up on one of the first vacations I get this year, and I think it's going to get cut short with some of the work that I have to do.
00:13:55.140 But I plan on recuperating a bit because we've got some pretty busy stuff coming up later on this year.
00:14:00.680 But I've got great news for everybody in respect of some of the work that we're doing on Coutts.
00:14:06.840 Yeah, you've really just had your pedal to the metal lately because you're working so hard on so many of our cases.
00:14:14.100 You know, you're working on even just things that we initially reported on, and then they're sort of dragging their feet through the court system,
00:14:22.580 like, you know, the case of Mom's Diner and a few others.
00:14:25.600 And we'll get an update on those towards the end of the interview.
00:14:28.360 But tell us exactly what happened with these 14 truckers from Coutts, Alberta.
00:14:35.340 Yeah, fair.
00:14:36.260 So what had happened is there's been a whole host of charges that have been laid in relation to allegations of criminal and regulatory misconduct,
00:14:47.020 obviously, down during the Coutts border blockade.
00:14:50.200 So we've been appointed to some of those.
00:14:52.700 Some of them we haven't been appointed to.
00:14:54.360 There's obviously some more serious charges, namely, of course, the allegations of criminal mischief against the alleged organizers of the blockade.
00:15:05.180 We're still going through almost 81 gigabytes of disclosure on that.
00:15:09.760 So that's a pretty thick file.
00:15:11.480 We've got some other mischief charges.
00:15:13.800 But one of the big files that we've got was all of the tickets that were basically handed down and laid to people who allegedly had equipment parked out on that highway.
00:15:27.160 It's my understanding that we had, I believe, 35 intakes or something.
00:15:32.180 So they laid quite a few charges.
00:15:34.440 And now most of these charges are, you know, Highway Safety Traffic Act tickets and not necessarily criminal charges, but more regulatory kind of in nature.
00:15:45.780 So just a bunch of ticket cases.
00:15:47.080 Obviously, with some of the help that we've received from the generous donors that are funding the lovely Democracy Fund, as always, we've been able to appoint an amazing lawyer to that file.
00:15:59.840 Our very own Sean Mahalchen, who is not just an amazing lawyer and a guy with a great beard, but also a guy who is, I believe, a 17-year veteran of the Canadian forces.
00:16:13.140 He did a tour of Afghanistan.
00:16:14.920 He's an amazing guy.
00:16:17.820 And there couldn't have been anyone better to have been appointed to these, you know, seemingly nuisance tickets that people got for allegedly having this stuff down on the highway.
00:16:28.040 Now, we had a schwack of them, Sheila. 0.99
00:16:30.080 So we did a whole bunch of intakes, very similar to, like, the Fight the Find stuff, right?
00:16:34.200 As soon as we opened the floodgates for these files to come in.
00:16:37.360 Oh, yeah, it's terrible.
00:16:37.600 And I've got to give a lot of credit to my little sister, Ellie Williamson, who runs the front desk and the initial intakes here.
00:16:47.280 She's probably one of the sweetest people I've ever met.
00:16:51.140 And she's kind of the first point of contact for all of the truckers, all of the restaurateurs, people who are hit with masking tickets, you know, social distancing tickets.
00:17:01.420 Ellie's been the lovely and kind smiling face that has helped bring those folks into the firm before a lawyer's appointed to them.
00:17:08.500 So just turning, of course, to these tickets, we got a schwack of them.
00:17:14.940 We've had 14 of them totally gassed.
00:17:18.120 And this is amazing.
00:17:19.840 So Sean's a pretty clever cookie.
00:17:22.660 And we're all nerds here.
00:17:23.900 You can't see it.
00:17:24.700 But I've actually got four giant monitors in front of me.
00:17:27.620 Like, it looks like I'm sitting in, like, a NASA space office here.
00:17:30.620 And I often have clients come in, accuse me of trading crypto and being a day trader kind of while I juggle my law career.
00:17:38.500 But I assure you, I just need this to be able to look at, like, multiple documents at once.
00:17:43.580 Sean has a similar setup.
00:17:44.960 And, I mean, the guy's great with computers, despite the fact that he's also really handy with a firearm.
00:17:50.400 And he's, you know, served our country for, man, a long time.
00:17:54.560 He's a renaissance man.
00:17:56.240 He's an interesting dude.
00:17:58.380 So, again, his name is Sean Maholshan.
00:18:01.480 Great guy.
00:18:02.360 He's just started his own law firm called Highland Law, which is kind of cool.
00:18:05.960 And, of course, we still hire him to do a whole bunch of work.
00:18:09.140 And he still works quite a bit with us under the Williamson Law banner.
00:18:12.000 And he's just a great guy.
00:18:14.320 So, Sean, in his wisdom, he determined that the parking violations that were handed down to these particular 14 individuals and organizations
00:18:24.060 required in the offense specifically that the offense had to occur on highways outside of an urban area.
00:18:34.900 It didn't take long to pull up a quick Google map and review some of the, what I would consider to be maybe lazy disclosure footage that was provided to us by the prosecutors on this matter to determine that all of these tickets were issued within the corporate limits of COOTS, which invalidated the tickets.
00:18:55.900 So, this is, I mean, it's a technicality, but you know what?
00:19:00.800 We'll take it.
00:19:02.740 After bringing that to the attention of the Crown, the Crown simply just withdrew 14 of these charges against these truckers and their owner corporations that own the vehicles.
00:19:16.280 Now, we still have, I believe, 15 left.
00:19:21.440 And we've got a pretty robust strategy there.
00:19:24.840 You've been kind of watching some of the work that we've done in the Whistle Stop Matter and, obviously, in relation to the Fight to Find stuff, which is very interesting because, of course, we had about 55 files or maybe 100.
00:19:39.340 I think we opened 125 files, something like that.
00:19:43.460 And then we whittled it down to about 50, which were a little bit more drawn out.
00:19:48.360 We just had another ticket.
00:19:50.580 So, we only have three left.
00:19:51.740 And this is, I mean, out of all of them, we got them all gassed, which is pretty, pretty amazing.
00:19:57.960 We just had, and, of course, this was Sean Maholshan.
00:20:00.520 He ran this one to trial.
00:20:02.160 This was a gentleman who got a ticket for taking off his mask during a medical emergency on an airliner.
00:20:09.740 There is a long-written decision on that one.
00:20:13.240 Poof.
00:20:13.680 That one's gone as well.
00:20:15.680 Not guilty, which is absolutely amazing.
00:20:18.960 We've only got two left.
00:20:20.460 Out of all the Fight to Finds files, we still don't have one conviction at trial, which is absolutely crazy considering the amount of money, power that the government put behind.
00:20:34.180 Not only the manpower required to go out and investigate and lay these charges, serve people with the tickets, health inspectors, all this bureaucracy, only to go to the Crown to have us put up a bristled defense on every single one of them.
00:20:51.280 Again, thanks to the generous contributions from the Civil Liberties Charity Democracy Fund.
00:20:56.960 We got two left.
00:20:58.120 We got Mr. Langlois and we've got Chris Scott.
00:21:01.480 And in those cases, we've brought fulsome disclosure applications to get to the very heart of what we consider to be the political reason for these charges.
00:21:15.460 And, you know, obviously maybe not related to public health.
00:21:20.160 And those are the allegations.
00:21:21.340 We'll see what the evidence, what comes out with the evidence.
00:21:25.160 But in respect to the 15 trucker tickets, Sheila, that we've got left, if these aren't withdrawn, and again, these are just, I mean, they're traffic and they're highway safety tickets.
00:21:36.140 We plan on approaching these with the same gusto and the same vigor that we have approached every case that has been so, you know, so wonderfully brought to our office.
00:21:48.680 And we're obviously grateful to do such cool work for people out there, for Albertans, I mean, who have been struggling through not just the pandemic, but through the border blockade, people expressing their constitutional right to freedom of association, freedom of expression, freedom of political association and assembly.
00:22:08.320 And people who we consider their rights to have been trampled by the aggressive overreach of this monolithic, the remnants of the ghost of the monolithic Jason Kenney government, government that we just cannot seem to put out of its misery.
00:22:25.780 So we've got 15 more cases.
00:22:27.940 It's going to be really interesting.
00:22:29.340 And this is, of course, just the trucker ticket cases.
00:22:32.820 But Sean's got a, he's a man with a plan.
00:22:35.140 And I think it's a pretty good plan.
00:22:36.660 Um, it looks like the, uh, the amount sought, uh, in terms of the penalty on those cases was for some reason, uh, and I might be misunderstanding, uh, 20% higher than what they should have been.
00:22:49.300 So is there a reason why all these truckers were, you know, pinched for something perhaps more, you know, that why they're looking for more money than they would, if this was just somebody else that had parked their rig on the side of the highway, allegedly unlawfully.
00:23:03.520 Uh, we're not sure, but, uh, in the same way that we're going to be, uh, seeking disclosure from Alberta health services in terms of the motivation behind some of the fight the fines restaurant rebellion cases.
00:23:15.520 We really want to find out what the motivation was for, uh, uh, uh, issuing these, these remaining tickets.
00:23:22.800 Now it's interesting to point out, Sheila, that on initially we just had some agents, uh, representing the crown.
00:23:29.960 So these are, uh, typically not lawyers.
00:23:31.960 They're just, uh, like law clerks that are kind of, uh, just thrown into the ring to see if they can get people to pay them right away.
00:23:39.000 As soon as the bristled defense obviously was put up, now we've got real crown lawyers on the other side.
00:23:45.480 So Sean continues to work these files with, uh, you know, enthusiasm and vigor like he always does.
00:23:50.780 And it's going to be, uh, really interesting to see what happens with the rest of them.
00:23:54.320 There's supposed to be a trial in June or July for all of them.
00:23:59.180 Um, for some reason, for some reason, they thought that they could get through, uh, 30 tickets in two days, which is crazy.
00:24:07.860 Uh, cause that's literally like 30 trials in two days.
00:24:10.620 And if anyone has been watching some of our other court proceedings, we can barely get through, uh, one witness in like half a day.
00:24:18.500 Right.
00:24:18.940 So, um, it's going to be really interesting to see how the crown deals with the remainder of the prosecution of these tickets and, and, and more so how the court will respond to, uh, the defenses that we're going to.
00:24:29.180 Uh, advance for these truckers.
00:24:30.760 So it'll be interesting to see, but suffice to say that, uh, that condensed day, uh, those trial dates, they've all been vacated now that a crown is on there.
00:24:38.220 So we're probably going to get these plucked down, uh, with maybe a more reasonable timeframe for, uh, proper adjudication and so forth.
00:24:45.480 So, um, and, and, and I'm, I mean, I might sound a little smug and, you know, I might be kind of, uh, you know, I might take, I might take a little bit of self-satisfaction in the fact that, uh, you know, um, in, in the face of an unlimited budget, uh, practically unlimited manpower.
00:25:03.400 Um, a little family run firm of a brother, a sister, an infantry guy from the army and, uh, uh, a fellow Martin Raymond, who we affectionately refer to as party Marty.
00:25:16.560 And now this is just because you have to see this guy out on the golf course to actually believe, to believe, to understand why he gets this name party Marty.
00:25:25.860 Um, there's only a couple people here and we've, we've, uh, we've really done such a great job of stifling, uh, what we feel to be, uh, unfair and unjust prosecutions of Albertans just expressing their charter rights.
00:25:40.580 Well, if you must know, they also call me tequila Sheila.
00:25:43.260 But, uh, I, I know why we're fighting these tickets, um, because we think everybody deserves, uh, a strong legal defense.
00:25:55.020 And people deserve help when they're up against the unlimited resources of the government.
00:25:59.180 What I can't quite figure out, although I do have my speculations, is why the government continues to pursue these tickets against, like, they're sparing no cost.
00:26:12.460 I mean, they're taking these tickets to trial.
00:26:15.460 I'm reliably informed that I think the province of Alberta is short about 50 crowns, where real crimes with real victims.
00:26:23.860 Cause I think the only victim here is like the highway, um, those cases are in jeopardy of being tossed out because there's shortage of crowns.
00:26:32.860 And yet the province is still pursuing these tickets against these truckers for some reason.
00:26:39.020 Yeah.
00:26:39.620 I mean, I'd also say that one of the other, uh, kind of victims here is the, uh, Albertan, uh, taxpayer who has had to finance, um, these cases when, um, and again, this is just my opinion.
00:26:52.340 But a lot of that money could actually have been, uh, maybe more properly attributed to the prosecution and, uh, uh, the, you know, dealing with real criminal stuff like domestic, uh, domestic violence, uh, assaults, uh, break and enters, murders, sexual assaults, uh, white collar crime.
00:27:11.800 Which is, uh, you know, obviously a problem, uh, kind of all over, all over the country.
00:27:16.740 Um, but the fact that they've kind of zeroed in on these, uh, um, you know, deplorables, uh, as some might call them, uh, is, is really troubling.
00:27:26.200 Because really, uh, we do see this as, uh, uh, as retribution for people putting up an opposition to, um, uh, ideological principles, uh, you know, that they, that they disagree with.
00:27:38.620 So it's, it's, uh, it's, it's been interesting to see.
00:27:42.480 Um, frankly, I don't think that, uh, the Crown or, you know, Alberta Health Services or any of the opposition, um, that we've come up against have really, um, I don't think they think that they had anticipated, uh, some of the, some of the defense strategies that we've employed.
00:28:00.200 Um, and we, we just work with such a creative team.
00:28:03.760 I mean, we've got, uh, you know, I just want to give a shout out to Yoav Niv of Niv Law, who everyone knows, uh, um, a wonderful, uh, tall, lanky, super intelligent dude.
00:28:14.200 He looks great in a suit, by the way, uh, who has been instrumental in guiding my firm with his extensive knowledge of really serious, hardcore criminal law defense.
00:28:26.140 I mean, the guy is, he's a weapon and, uh, we're just so lucky that he's been able to, uh, assist.
00:28:32.580 Of course, our, a senior, a guy by the name of Ken Johnson, who most rebel viewers don't even know.
00:28:38.360 He's a big, tall dude that kind of reminds me of like the university professor I never had.
00:28:43.420 He's been at the bar for 40 years and has been supervising to make sure that these young cavalier lawyers that, uh, we throw into the ring, um, are obviously, uh, playing by the rules and, and that we've considered all.
00:28:56.140 Angles, and he's been instrumental as well.
00:28:58.720 It never hurts to have a gray hair in the building.
00:29:01.120 Um, and those are his words, not mine.
00:29:03.720 So we're, you know, Sheila, we're, we're, we're just so lucky.
00:29:06.900 Um, and I think Albertans are, are, and Canadians.
00:29:10.760 Um, I mean, I, I don't want to, uh, I don't want to, um, dismiss, uh, all the work that the democracy fund has done in other jurisdictions outside Alberta.
00:29:18.920 Obviously I'm from Calgary and, um, Alberta is where, uh, kind of where my heart is.
00:29:23.460 Um, but I mean, there's been, you know, what was there like two, 2000 or 2200 fight the fines tickets.
00:29:29.360 Most of those being out in Eastern Canada and the democracy fund has just been on top of those, like a pit bull on a poodle and, uh, and they've done outstanding work.
00:29:39.360 And that wouldn't be possible without, uh, people coming together, uh, and assisting with the financing, uh, of, of, of, of these important defenses, which, uh, uh, and the, the great thing is, is that we've been able to actually show value for that money.
00:29:55.060 It's not just going down some, uh, sucking pit of despair, uh, and, you know, resulting in a whole bunch of convictions, um, time after time.
00:30:04.280 And, and again, much to our surprise, um, right across the country, these civil rights charities lawyers, uh, have been scoring resounding successes.
00:30:14.580 And, um, I know that there's also been kind of, uh, uh, some desolation and people, you know, obviously lacked hope during the pandemic.
00:30:22.920 Um, but I hope that just, even just these little wins, like if we can get, you know, uh, a ticket expunged or, uh, a restaurant tour to be found, uh, not guilty of public health act tickets.
00:30:34.580 Um, or even to have someone who may be found guilty somewhere down the line, if we can get their sentence reduced significantly or to make, um, that prosecution more bearable for people that has real value for people.
00:30:48.300 And it really, and truly, um, affects people's lives in a meaningful way.
00:30:53.980 And this isn't under the microscope.
00:30:55.700 We don't get to see, um, what may have happened had they not had a legal defense, or, um, we don't get to see maybe the, the conversation around.
00:31:04.580 The dinner table that night going like, oh my God, I, you know, that ticket got tossed.
00:31:08.800 I'm so glad I could move on with, you know, uh, you know, my life farming or like my life trucking or like, you know, I work in an office tower downtown and like now I'm, now I'm good to go.
00:31:19.020 Or now I can run, continue to run my restaurant without being, um, uh, you know, kind of involved in the court system, which is a stressful and horrible, uh, experience for everybody that usually has to go through it.
00:31:30.640 I want to ask you really quick while I have you for just a brief update on what's happening with Chris Scott of the Whistle Stop.
00:31:38.260 So he, I mean, I think we just had the anniversary of his arrest of being taken away in handcuffs, um, for three days after protesting the government seizing his property.
00:31:50.380 What, uh, what's going on there right now?
00:31:52.700 Yeah. So really interesting. I was actually in docket court up in Red Deer by Webex, which is a kind of a remote video conferencing that sometimes we use for, uh, uh, matters that don't require an in-person appearance by a lawyer.
00:32:04.900 So we were supposed to receive a very important decision yesterday, uh, from the presiding judge in Chris Scott's case.
00:32:13.380 Um, there's, there's basically been a big issue in that case where we have uncovered that there was a whole bunch of emails that were not provided to us.
00:32:23.360 And these are internal Alberta health service emails, um, where, uh, Chris Scott's investigation, um, and his, uh, uh, his charges or the allegations against him were discussed internally by upper HS management, by the inspectors, um, and by the RCMP.
00:32:42.920 And a lot of the individuals that were involved in, uh, uh, bringing, uh, uh, bringing those charges against him.
00:32:49.000 So when we found at trial by questioning one of the Alberta health services witnesses, that there was all these emails, we made an application on the spot during the trial.
00:32:59.420 It was quite dramatic. Um, and, uh, you know, unlike, uh, you know, like suits or like Boston legal or like the practice, um, if you've ever spent any time in a Canadian courtroom, it's very fascinating,
00:33:11.360 but it lacks a lot of the dramatic flair that you usually get to see on TV and all this sort of stuff.
00:33:18.140 And that's not the case at the cross examination, uh, specifically during Chris Scott's trial of that Alberta health inspector.
00:33:25.860 I think I cross examined him for a day and a half. Uh, and I mean, I got so fired up.
00:33:31.760 I had to ask the judge to take off my blazer cause I was sweating and I was animated.
00:33:36.580 The judge asked the AHS inspector if he was okay. And if he needed a break, I recall that specifically cause I was in the courtroom.
00:33:45.240 Yeah. I mean, I mean, it was wild. And obviously I'm known for a little bit of exuberance in the courtroom, which I obviously have to, uh, tone down.
00:33:52.760 And I, and I just want everyone else to know that I pay nothing but the utmost respect and deference to our legal system and the cornerstones of democracy that are so important to this province in this country.
00:34:04.660 Um, by, by no means when I get excited, am I trying to, you know, obviously bring that into disrepute or show any disrespect, but I do get passionate.
00:34:12.400 Uh, it's great to have Yoav there cause the guy's cool as a cucumber and he has a really, he has the really great effect of, uh, of, uh, uh, of just leveling out, uh, um, the leveling out counsel for the defense.
00:34:24.220 So during that cross examination, we simply asked if they had, uh, discussed Mr. Scott, uh, you know, Chris by emails.
00:34:31.700 They said that they did. Um, we asked if, uh, if those emails were disclosed, they were not.
00:34:36.820 We made an application on the spot and a whole schwack of emails were provided.
00:34:41.060 And I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe there was something like 400 pages of emails and the emails contained, um, some fairly shocking, uh, or what we think are, are really shocking, um, evidence of Alberta health services really focusing on Chris Scott in terms of trying to make themselves look good.
00:35:05.060 Uh, and that being AHS trying to protect their image as being the defenders of public health.
00:35:10.940 Um, we didn't see a lot of emails in respect of protecting public health.
00:35:16.220 This really did look, uh, at least our interpretation of the emails is that this really did look like a political, uh, investigation and prosecution of Chris Scott, uh, because he was in opposition, opposition to the, uh, COVID mandates and, uh, and, and, and so forth.
00:35:33.320 Um, so once we got those emails, um, it looked like there was probably a whole bunch more disclosure, which was mentioned in the emails.
00:35:42.300 And this would be things like internal memorandum of meetings that they had about Chris Scott, uh, other correspondence, other notes.
00:35:50.300 Um, we then made an application after that for all this stuff, uh, this goes right to the RCMP, uh, we made a disclosure for application, uh, to the office of the, uh, of the premier, uh, an application against the solicitor general of Alberta, uh, further, uh, further application for disclosure from, uh, both the crown and Alberta health services as well for all this stuff.
00:36:13.200 Uh, we don't think that you can make a full and fair and complete answer, uh, uh, to charges against you without being in receipt of full disclosure.
00:36:21.640 And this is Canadian law.
00:36:23.220 Now the recent disclosure application kind of was in two parts.
00:36:26.700 So it's, it gets a little technical and I won't get into the crazy stuff, but first you have to figure out if it's first or third party disclosure.
00:36:33.880 Um, there's a legal, uh, there's kind of legal criteria for, um, whether or not something that's first or third party needs to be disclosed by the party who has those documents and there's different rules for each of them.
00:36:48.580 So the first task of the court is to look at everything that we're asking for, go through the list and say first party, first party, third party, or, or what have you, and make a determination as to what type of disclosure we're requesting.
00:37:00.920 So that's part one.
00:37:02.740 And then part two would be whether or not the disclosure has to be turned over pursuant to whatever category they get lumped into.
00:37:10.780 So the first part of that decision, uh, is obviously, uh, the judge, uh, determining whether or not their first party or third party and, and kind of applying that categorization to each little bit that we're requesting.
00:37:22.360 That decision was supposed to happen yesterday.
00:37:25.060 Um, it's now been adjourned and I believe it's been put over to May 29th.
00:37:29.440 So actually I got my calendar here, uh, it has been put over and, uh, the judge will be rendering his decision at one 30 in the afternoon in the red deer courthouse, um, on, uh, whether or not the disclosure that we're requesting is first party or third party.
00:37:44.420 After that, we have kind of round two where everyone's going to make submissions as to whether or not the disclosure that we're requesting, uh, has met the criteria pertaining to the, the, their category.
00:37:54.940 Right. So again, really technical. Um, but we've, we've, we've had some really interesting revelations.
00:38:01.620 We feel, uh, in those emails, um, we think that there's some additional stuff that they've got that they haven't turned over to us that are material and relevant, obviously to the charges against Chris Scott.
00:38:11.460 And what's important here is it's not so much relevant to, um, the, the, the actual bringing of the charges.
00:38:18.860 It's more relevant to our charter and constitutional application, uh, invoking Chris's right to freedom of speech, freedom of association, uh, freedom of political thought, uh, and all that good stuff.
00:38:32.440 Um, so it's going to be really interesting to see. It's a fascinating case. Now turning to Wesley Lang Waugh, this is the other, as his mom's diner, this is the other case that we've had.
00:38:41.660 So the trial in that matter, it's over, it's done. However, because of the revelations, uh, from the Chris Scott trial and co, uh, coincidentally, we have the same judge in, um, the, uh, the Lang Waugh matter that we have in Chris Scott's matter.
00:38:56.800 Um, we've now made an application to reopen cross examinations of the Alberta health inspector. I, uh, want to get this fellow in the witness box and I want to put these additional questions to him questions that, uh, were not, uh, uh, that we weren't, uh, we weren't able to put to him because we didn't know at that time, uh, that this extra disclosure existed, at least in another case.
00:39:22.080 Um, obviously the position of the crown is that the cases are unrelated. Um, but look, I mean, they were investigated by the exact same folks through the central AHS region during the same time over COVID stuff. They're both restaurants. I don't think on, you know, on, on the face of it that anyone could think that there weren't internal, uh, documents, um, that were, you know, uh, where, where they discussed, uh, Wesley's case.
00:39:50.720 So we've got a little bit more of a different angle there, but we've now made an application to essentially reopen that trial, uh, and to re-examine, uh, the Alberta health inspector in that case as well.
00:40:02.320 And we're, uh, we're, uh, we're still waiting for submissions from the crown, which is their response to our, uh, application that comes in, uh, on this Friday.
00:40:11.360 So lots of moving pieces. Um, we've, you know, we've got this, uh, this big matter out in Toronto where I'll be flying out in June to, um, challenge, uh, minister Gilboa, uh, for rebel news over the very, very important, uh, issue as to whether
00:40:32.160 or not a politician can block members of their constituency on public media and prevent them from, uh, accessing, uh, official government content.
00:40:41.520 So that'll be a very interesting case as well. And it's, it's fundamental to all Canadians. Um, so we're doing some really crazy stuff. I can't believe that I'm even on these cases. I mean, I'm, I'm happy to just do car crashes and real estate deals.
00:40:54.360 And, you know, if you want to sell your farm, I could do that too. I mean, uh,
00:40:58.000 Well, I'm so glad you are though, because you, you've been so instrumental in the fight for freedom, in the fight for free speech, in the fight for free expression and the right to protest, not just in Alberta, but for us here at rebel news, you've helped us take the federal government to court.
00:41:14.880 Uh, and you won with, um, very little prep time. Um, and so I'm really proud to be a part of offering that same expertise to just the normal common Albertan who deserves a fulsome legal defense. Uh, I think Canada is a lot more free because of the work that you guys do at Williamson law chat. So, um, on behalf of everybody here at rebel news, but also I think on behalf of the normies of Alberta, of which I count myself as one.
00:41:41.160 Thanks so much. And, and give my gratitude to the team at Williamson law, if you will.
00:41:47.100 Yeah. And I, I totally will. And thank you guys again for doing what you do. And it's just, uh, it's just such an honor and a privilege every day. Uh, I'm just so grateful to, um, uh, to be able to help people. I think, uh, I just love this province. And even if I wasn't doing law, I'd be out there, you know, in some capacity trying to, uh, make people's lives better, especially during, uh, um, you know, increasingly dark times. So it's, uh, uh, uh, people should keep hope, uh,
00:42:11.160 because, because there is, there is hope that, uh, freedom and liberty will prevail.
00:42:16.000 What a great soundbite from Chad Williamson to end the interview on. He's like a soundbite machine. Chad, thanks so much. Uh, stay with us, viewers at home, your letters and notes to Ezra. Disappointingly read by me up after the break.
00:42:41.160 Letters, letters, letters. As David Menzies always says, we get your letters all day, every day, your questions, your comments, your story ideas, your feedback, and we welcome it all because without you, there is no rebel news. So we need to listen to you.
00:42:58.580 Now, your letters have rolled in on Tamara Ugolini's monologue on the United Nations and their places to further promote vaccination, despite increasing evidence of the harms of not just vaccination, but forced vaccination.
00:43:16.680 Free West guy writes, nobody elected any of the creepy pedophiles. That's his words, not mine. Don't sue me at the United Nations. So I don't see why anyone would listen to anything they say.
00:43:29.580 Well, whether we like it or not, the United Nations is there. Now we don't need to listen to them, but I think we should pay very close attention to the things they really want to do to us.
00:43:41.580 And this is one of those things. And whether or not you think the United Nations is some sort of benevolent force for peace, order, good government, and I don't know, societal health.
00:43:57.540 Or if you're like me and you think they are control freak overlords who want to use any manner of whipped up catastrophe, doomsday predictions to control your life.
00:44:11.460 And I mean that in any number of ways, the climate scare, online radicalization, they like to talk about that, or the pandemic or health related things to control what you see, say, and do.
00:44:28.700 Whether or not you think that the United Nations is bad, or whether or not you think the United Nations are good, I don't think that anyone can disregard the hindsight of what we now know about vaccination.
00:44:47.240 At worst, these vaccines did some very real harm to the healthiest amongst us, might I add, you know, young men under the age of 30.
00:44:58.620 But at the very least, they didn't actually do anything.
00:45:04.560 All they did was make a lot of pharmaceutical companies very, very rich and strip away civil liberties and identify for governments around the world who are the most compliant amongst us, who would tattle on their friends and neighbors.
00:45:20.440 And who would absolutely go along to get along despite nearly almost zero evidence that going along to get along would do any good.
00:45:31.420 So I think, you know, like, wherever you fall down on the United Nations, I mean, it must be absolutely crazy to you either way that they are still promoting these COVID vaccines.
00:45:51.200 Regardless of what we all know now to be true.
00:45:55.340 And I think I probably just got this show made absolutely not safe for YouTube because you're not allowed to be a little bit too truthful on YouTube about these sorts of things.
00:46:05.940 On Tamara's interview, which was incredible, by the way, with Dr. Byron Bridle, a man who has been silenced, attacked, nearly cancelled for his early objections to the way governments and the medical establishment were both reacting to the pandemic.
00:46:29.020 One Christian versus Islam writes, these globalists think people are going to stay slight.
00:46:37.680 They have another thing coming.
00:46:39.500 More and more people are coming out on the open.
00:46:42.840 God bless you, doctor, for coming out and standing for the truth.
00:46:46.260 You know, he has paid dearly for it, but he refuses to be silent.
00:46:51.640 And I say this all the time, but one of the things that really concerns me about forced vaccination, the vaccine mandates.
00:47:02.740 Was that the conscientious objectors, the people who have a moral code of black and white, whether or not you agree or think the vaccine is effective.
00:47:13.640 There are a lot of people who said, I don't think people should be forced to do this.
00:47:17.160 And I won't discriminate against the people who are objecting.
00:47:21.120 Those people are normally in better times in a wiser, saner society.
00:47:27.240 Those are the people we elevate to positions of management and leadership because they do have leadership skills.
00:47:35.200 They're resistant to peer pressure.
00:47:37.160 They don't discriminate.
00:47:38.680 They welcome objecting viewpoints as a means by which to check their own viewpoint.
00:47:43.920 But those people were all pushed out, which means that all of our institutions right now, well, not all of them, but the majority of our institutions right now, the mainstream media, government, academia, medicine, by and large, the legal system, policing, the military, a lot of the people left in management are the yes men.
00:48:05.420 And I think it will be a few years before we really see just how damaging that will be to society writ large.
00:48:14.640 And again, on the show last night, Eric J.S. writes, hi, dear rebel guys.
00:48:21.180 I loved Tamara's show last night. 0.82
00:48:23.540 Thank you.
00:48:24.340 Love.
00:48:25.100 So I did, too.
00:48:27.540 I don't really have much to say.
00:48:29.660 Tamara does a great job hosting the show. 1.00
00:48:31.820 Thanks for bearing with us.
00:48:32.900 By the way, everybody, as Ezra's feeling a little bit under the weather, nothing that anybody has to worry about, but we've all come together to make sure that the boss can recoup and recover and come back stronger than ever.
00:48:45.460 Again, I reiterate, nothing anybody needs to worry about.
00:48:48.700 He's just a little bit under the weather and taking a little time to rest.
00:48:53.300 So that's that.
00:48:54.880 Thanks for watching the show, everybody.
00:48:56.360 Thanks to everybody in the studio in Toronto who works really hard to put the show together and everybody who works behind the scenes to make sure the show is there for you to watch it when the team in Toronto is done with it.
00:49:08.340 And one of us, one of us, not Ezra, but one of us will be hosting the show tomorrow.
00:49:15.180 So again, we'll see you back here tomorrow.
00:49:17.260 It won't be me.
00:49:18.020 It'll be somebody, though.
00:49:19.000 And as Ezra always says, keep fighting for freedom.
00:49:22.180 We'll see you next time.