Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The extreme green agenda to replace beautiful neighbourhoods with 15-minute cities

00:00:00.000 Canadian municipalities have ambitious rezoning plans to make communities more green and more

00:00:21.880 dense. What does that mean for older communities? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 Hey there. So let's talk about fourplexes. For decades, Canadians pretty much only saw either

00:00:52.540 single-family homes or big apartment or condo buildings going up. That's because local laws

00:00:58.460 were written in a way that only allowed for those types of buildings. Midsize buildings,

00:01:03.420 like fourplexes, just didn't get built as much. Well that's changing. We're making it

00:01:08.560 so you can now build four units on the same plot of land that used to be just for one

00:01:13.640 unit. That's called four units as of right. We've signed deals with all the big cities

00:01:19.280 across Canada. Now we're going even bigger. We've put money down for provinces and territories.

00:01:25.460 Five billion dollars to build the roads, public transit and water infrastructure they need

00:01:30.700 with a catch. To get the money, they're going to have to change the way they do things,

00:01:35.220 including, you guessed it, by legalizing four units as of right. Because we need to change

00:01:40.680 the way homes are built across this country. Justin Trudeau's federal government has

00:01:45.380 a sweeping and expensive tree planting scheme. A plan to plant billions of trees across this country.

00:02:00.340 Although the majority of trees in this country are planted by the forestry industry and not the federal

00:02:07.060 government. Because as you know, industry can do things a lot cheaper and more efficiently than the

00:02:12.820 federal government because they actually have a bottom line to worry about. Like the federal government

00:02:18.340 that can just reach into your pocket and take out more money every time one of their plans goes over budget.

00:02:24.740 But if the federal government wants to plant trees everywhere, including on arable farmland,

00:02:32.740 why are they promoting municipal policies that will result in the destruction of mature trees

00:02:46.020 in older neighborhoods in favor of erecting high density housing? Well, we'll discuss that and more

00:02:53.460 with my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science up after the break.

00:02:57.380 Michelle, I wanted to talk to you about something that we hear constantly and it's been pushed for,

00:03:05.540 I don't know, the better part of five years, the tree planting scheme of the federal liberals.

00:03:10.580 And it has bled down to the municipal level. You guys had a really great video that just came out the

00:03:15.300 other day. Tell us what we need to know about the tree planting. I'm going to call it a scam. I'm not

00:03:21.940 sure you're going to call it that, but it is maybe a scheme. Oh, well, I think it must be called a scam

00:03:28.420 by now because as most people know, there's this housing transition accelerator fund that requires

00:03:34.900 blanket rezoning of any city if you accept money from it. And blanket rezoning means that in many

00:03:41.620 places where there are beautiful mature trees, they'll just be ripped out and a larger facility will

00:03:48.580 be placed there, four plex, eight plex, 16 plex. So the thing is that your municipality and you people

00:03:56.500 who live on that property or near it have paid thousands of dollars over the years for planting

00:04:03.700 and urban canopy maintenance by city crews, right? So you've paid for these very nice mature trees,

00:04:14.420 which are now being torn down because of the housing accelerator fund and the blanket rezoning.

00:04:21.060 But never fear because there's a new tree planting program with the Federation of Canadian

00:04:26.340 Municipalities just announced. I think it was May 15th by Jonathan Wilkinson, the minister for this

00:04:34.820 wonderful initiative. And they're going to give money to the Federation of Canadian Municipalities.

00:04:41.940 They're going to create, I believe it's 2000 jobs and they're going to plant 1.2 million trees.

00:04:48.580 And just so you know, many average tree planters plant about 3000 trees a day. So that seems to be

00:04:56.740 quite a few people to plant that many trees. And also now you get to pay again to plant new trees

00:05:05.620 trees that the same government is causing to have been ripped down. And the thing is, you know, mature

00:05:12.020 trees take decades to grow. So you're really just tearing down these beautiful living investments from

00:05:20.100 your community to build probably not well-made and ugly housing that will ruin your neighborhood. But now

00:05:28.340 the government is granting more money to municipalities to plant more trees and create these new jobs, which

00:05:36.020 undoubtedly will become full-time and pensionable. So of course, now something in particular is

00:05:44.660 happening in Calgary, but it's happening across the province. The federal government has tried

00:05:49.620 to go around to the provincial government to give money to the municipalities to inject these green

00:05:57.620 schemes into their affordable housing plans. And I think this all sort of ties in together where

00:06:03.060 if you have an uncooperative provincial government with the federal government's green agenda,

00:06:09.060 the federal government is doing their best to just go around the provincial governments altogether.

00:06:13.620 And I think people really have to pay closer attention to what happens at the municipal level.

00:06:19.940 As a small c conservative, we all sort of get tied up in like paying attention to what the

00:06:25.860 provincial government's doing and paying attention to what the federal government's doing. But some of

00:06:30.020 these green schemes are the most expensive at the municipal level when it comes to housing,

00:06:36.020 when it comes to these tree programs, when it comes to the multi-billion dollars,

00:06:41.140 tens of billions of dollars in Calgary's green plan. Well, they don't have water right now.

00:06:47.700 I really think the recycling, let's not forget the scam of recycling. I'm all for not throwing

00:06:53.780 out garbage that we don't need to throw out, but you know, storing plastic containers and sea cans

00:06:59.700 somewhere until we figure out what to do with it or shipping it to the developing world doesn't seem

00:07:04.500 like a great idea. What do you think about the federal government going around the provincial

00:07:09.620 government to talk to progressive mayors to make life more expensive for residents?

00:07:16.260 Well, I'd say that they've actually been doing that for quite some time, but people haven't really

00:07:20.340 noticed. Again, because it's always been shrouded in the, you know, sort of halo of this is a green

00:07:26.020 initiative and we're doing something good for mankind. And probably one of the more activist

00:07:30.900 groups would be the Federation of Canadian Municipalities. At one point, they claimed that they had

00:07:36.180 installed 4,000 wind turbines or they'd been responsible for initiatives to install 4,000 wind turbines.

00:07:45.060 One of the professional engineers that we've worked with in the past said that, in Alberta anyway,

00:07:52.820 they anticipate that it costs a million dollars a megawatt to integrate a wind turbine into the system.

00:08:02.100 So, you can imagine how much money that actually costs you and it's not anything that people should

00:08:07.780 be cheering about. So, for instance, this idea of going around the province when Jason Kenney was

00:08:16.100 premier and he announced a very large sum for the Alberta inquiry. I think it was about 30 million dollars

00:08:24.260 originally and it was cut back to 3 million. I'm not too sure on the big figure, but about a week after

00:08:30.340 that, if you check the record, the government, the federal government came up with 44 million dollars,

00:08:38.340 which was split equally between Edmonton and Calgary for eco operations. I think it might have gone to

00:08:45.700 Alberta Ecotrust. I'm not exactly sure who it went to, but that's an example of where the provincial

00:08:53.060 government was trying to protect our industry and our incomes revenues for the province and the federal

00:08:59.940 government immediately upped the ante by funding these NGOs, some of which are also foreign funded,

00:09:08.260 by the way. But, you know, they dropped a big chunk of cash on them, presumably to fight back. So,

00:09:15.940 it's been going on for a long, long time. The thing is, at the municipal level, it's very easy for

00:09:21.940 activists to appear before council to ingratiate themselves to councillors because they know them.

00:09:27.940 They live in the same community. So, you know, maybe they've been in the same Rotary Club for years

00:09:32.980 or gone to the same university. So, it's quite easy to get in, whereas for provincial and federal,

00:09:38.660 you generally have to have some kind of lobby registry and it's a more formal process, more difficult.

00:09:45.780 So, yeah, it's happening a lot. And if you read the blueprint for housing, which was presented by

00:09:56.500 a large group of sort of ENGO and types, and Mark Carney was one of the leads on it. In it,

00:10:04.180 he represented himself as being part of Canada 2020. He's actually associated with Brookfield,

00:10:11.060 and Brookfield has a huge real estate division. But anyway, and a renewables division. But anyway,

00:10:17.620 in that, they were advocating that the federal government should actually expropriate land.

00:10:23.220 They're referencing, I think it was the IRPC. I can't remember the name of that group. They were

00:10:30.580 they were suggesting that the federal government should expropriate land along transit lines and

00:10:37.540 then build dense housing there using climate resilient methods. Now, in Alberta, the provincial

00:10:44.660 government has generally ignored or pushed back on the net zero 2030 building requirements,

00:10:51.140 because it would add a huge burden to the cost of building. And there's no particular benefit in

00:10:57.380 terms of climate or anything. So this is a way of forcing cities to build net zero climate resilient

00:11:06.260 housing without ever having the province agree to do that.

00:11:11.300 The federal government's housing policy, wherein we'll basically all end up in living in cardboard

00:11:17.620 boxes if these people get their way. It sounds like they're handing out a lot of money,

00:11:23.620 but at the end of the day, it's really not. No, I think during the Calgary hearings on the blanket

00:11:30.260 rezoning, somebody said that the city is trying to get about $474 million, I think it was, from the

00:11:40.660 Housing Accelerator Transition Fund. But the city itself provides $5 billion dollars in tax revenue to the

00:11:51.220 feds. And I don't know how they calculated that. I'm assuming that would be from the residents. So,

00:11:57.940 you know, it's really a spit in the bucket and very, very disruptive. Because what this Housing Accelerator

00:12:05.140 funding does not account for is the fact that all the infrastructure will have to be upgraded.

00:12:11.940 And, you know, they're kind of counting on the idea that, oh, if we build a fourplex or a 16plex

00:12:17.620 on one or two property lots that used to be single housing, there's already existing infrastructure

00:12:25.060 there. That's why they're focusing sort of on inner city rather than building greenfield housing, which

00:12:30.100 would be a new suburb. But the problem with that is that that infrastructure was built for a single

00:12:36.740 family neighborhood. And there's a limit to how much additional pressure can be put on those lines,

00:12:42.820 whether it be the sewage, the water mains, the electrical. And one of their theories is that,

00:12:49.300 of course, you know, in your new housing pod, you will have electrified things like electrified heating.

00:12:57.860 And maybe you'll just have an induction stove or hot plate. Maybe you'll just have a little Instapot.

00:13:05.060 Maybe that will be the entire kitchen for you. It'll all be electrified. But then you have to upgrade the

00:13:10.340 electrical distribution grid for that neighborhood a lot. So these costs are astronomical. And I think

00:13:19.620 as we've seen in Calgary just now with the big water main break, you know, that that pipe apparently

00:13:27.700 was about 50 years old. And the lifespan of such a pipe is apparently 50 years. So there's lots of

00:13:36.260 that all over every city in Canada. And there's going to be lots of big fails like that as density

00:13:43.380 is imposed on neighborhoods that are not built for it. And I think actually a lot of the new neighborhoods

00:13:49.060 are built for considerations of like adding additional units like a grandma suite, adding EV chargers, you

00:13:57.540 know, a lot of them are set up with electrical that could accept that in the future. But the old

00:14:04.260 neighborhoods are not, you know, I'm glad you brought up the strain to the electrical grid

00:14:09.300 once we're all using induction stoves and our air fryers to cook our dinners instead of good old

00:14:15.380 reliable natural gas. I just I'm reading from a press release right now from Premier Daniel Smith and

00:14:21.860 the Minister of Environment and Protected Areas, Rebecca Schultz. And it's on the following,

00:14:26.580 it's on Canada's Electricity Advisory Council's final report. The Canada Electricity Advisory Council's

00:14:35.860 latest report echoes Alberta's long standing warning. Ottawa's one size fits all electricity

00:14:42.340 regulations are dangerous, costly, and an unrealistic path to failure. So Justin Trudeau's own Electricity

00:14:50.420 Advisory Council is sounding the alarm saying that they need to call for less ideology and more common

00:14:59.300 sense rejecting rigid mandates that ignore regional realities. So the Federal Advisory Council on Justin

00:15:10.180 Trudeau's rapid transition to electrification of all things is saying that this doesn't take into account

00:15:18.180 the regional dynamics of places like Alberta versus places like BC. Do you think the Feds are going

00:15:24.580 to listen? I mean, this is something we've all been saying for a very long time. But what happens? Brownouts, I guess? 1.00

00:15:31.780 Well, it's hard to know if the Feds will listen because they are so ideologically driven. And I suspect

00:15:37.300 that they are driven also by investment considerations. It's my view that many of the pension plans, the big

00:15:43.620 pension plans, especially public service ones, are invested in renewables, heavily invested in them,

00:15:49.300 whether directly or indirectly through mutual funds. And this is why we see this continuous push

00:15:55.860 to incorporate, you know, a so-called clean grid and EVs, all these new things. I think they're deeply

00:16:03.060 invested in them, so they're just trying to prop them up. And as long as the climate scenario,

00:16:09.300 catastrophic scenario reigns in the public mind, they will go along with it. But as people begin

00:16:15.860 to figure it out, like, wait a minute, you know, we're talking about foreign interference at the

00:16:20.580 highest levels of government in Canada, where is the largest producer of EVs and wind and solar panels?

00:16:28.660 Well, it's China, right? So who benefits from the purchase of these products and installation of them?

00:16:36.740 Well, China does. So, you know, you have to look for those conflicts of interest, I think. And

00:16:42.260 practically speaking, I'm sure that all of the utilities companies have made the case to various

00:16:51.220 levels of government that, you know, if you want one of these substations or these types of transformers

00:17:00.020 or these types of devices that integrate wind and solar because they're, you know, one is DC,

00:17:06.100 wind and solar, the other is AC, the main grid, so you have to have something that converts it. These

00:17:12.420 kinds of devices, A, they're highly in demand because lots of places in the world are trying to do that,

00:17:18.900 and B, it takes years to order and get them. Years, like five years, I understand, for some of these

00:17:25.060 transformers and millions, billions of dollars. So, you know, hopefully reality will hit and people

00:17:33.380 will say, come on, let's back off this net zero thing. Because the problem is we will destabilize

00:17:39.620 the grid and we won't be able to fix it because we will not be able to get enough of these supposed

00:17:46.180 big batteries that will save us. They won't save us, but, you know, they would perhaps provide some

00:17:53.620 interim power for a few hours. But they're, you know, all these things are very expensive. They're

00:18:00.020 very hard to get. And as we are rushing ahead, we are simply destabilizing the power grids everywhere

00:18:05.620 in Canada, driving up costs. And at some point, I think it'll be too broken to go back and fix.

00:18:11.700 And a lot of the things that we need and want won't be available because we're not the biggest player

00:18:17.460 in the market. So, you know, if somebody in the States wants those particular transformers,

00:18:23.620 they probably will get them first, bigger customer. For sure. And we've already seen this happen

00:18:31.060 in Alberta in like a very small scale, but it was in one of the coldest parts of the winter

00:18:37.860 when we did not have enough electricity on our grid to deal with the demand. And so what did we

00:18:43.860 have to do? Well, we bought electricity from BC. We bought it from the United States, which is coal

00:18:48.420 fired electricity. So while they got us off coal fired electricity here in Alberta, they didn't really,

00:18:53.940 they got us off coal fired jobs because we end up buying coal fired electricity from the States to keep

00:18:59.700 us going. Right. And the thing is, you know, it's been I think since 2005, a long-standing demand or

00:19:09.300 dream of the Liberal government and the Liberal Party to have an east-west grid. Their ideological vision

00:19:17.300 is that because there's hydro in BC and hydro in the Atlantic provinces and hydro in Quebec, all you have to

00:19:23.060 do is hook it all together and la-dee-da, put up some wind in Alberta, and we can have a renewable grid

00:19:30.740 and everything will be perfect. But it doesn't work that way. And we can see that very clearly right now

00:19:35.380 in BC. They're in a drought period. So, so much for that. You know, we can't really draw the same kind of

00:19:43.620 power from them reliably as we could in times when they had lots of power. Likewise for them.

00:19:49.220 We used to provide them with coal fired power at night. So they didn't have to run their reservoirs

00:19:56.820 at the same level. So the reservoir could replenish at night and then the coal power would go back to

00:20:02.740 Alberta for our industrial operations and daily operations. And then at night when we didn't need

00:20:08.340 that excess, we could shift it back to BC and they could store up their reservoir water again. So that

00:20:15.780 doesn't happen now as far as I know. And the thing is, you know, people say, oh, well, coal plants are

00:20:21.780 inefficient because you have to run them all the time. And you do pretty much have to run them all

00:20:26.500 the time. They're not a start stop thing like a natural gas plant can be. But when you have this

00:20:33.460 kind of arrangement, then you're actually maximizing the benefits of the coal plant for everyone. And we

00:20:39.780 have lost a big chunk of our energy security in Alberta because, you know, you have to remember

00:20:45.380 that natural gas is pressurized. So there always has to be pressure in the line and it that's what's

00:20:51.700 feeding the gas plant. But when you have a coal plant, you can have a year supply of coal sitting

00:20:58.420 there in a pile on site. You don't have to worry about it. But if there's a gas plant leak or an

00:21:04.980 interruption in service or a shortage or a huge price spike in natural gas, then you're toast.

00:21:13.060 You know, whereas coal is price stable. It's been price stable for like about a hundred years.

00:21:18.340 Yeah. Unless you slap it with carbon tax and then the carbon tax ends up being

00:21:23.220 more than the value of coal, as my friend Mike continues to show me as he

00:21:28.020 posts his coal bill online because he eats with coal and he's paying more in carbon tax than he is

00:21:35.780 for the coal. I want to ask you about this article that you wrote for the Western Standard about an

00:21:42.580 organization many people probably don't know about. It's called the Canadian Sustainability Standards

00:21:48.740 Board. Why should we be paying attention to these people and what do they plan to do to us all?

00:21:54.580 Well, this is a subset of the International Sustainability Standards Board and it came out

00:22:02.740 of I think COP26. And basically what they want is that every corporation should count every carbon

00:22:09.140 molecule that they use in every way that they use it. And not only what they use in their facility and

00:22:16.260 operation on site, but also what is emitted by their suppliers, both their suppliers of services like

00:22:25.380 electricity, but also downstream meaning, you know, the delivery truck. At this point, they're proposing

00:22:32.340 that this should be voluntary and not mandatory until it is mandatory because they say that the Canadian

00:22:40.340 Securities Administrator will decide when it becomes mandatory. They wanted to have it implemented by

00:22:46.420 January 2024, so that's already a bad sign and they're looking to implement it by 2025. Now the problem is

00:22:53.700 when you go right down to the scope 3, which is really the kind of granular level, first of all,

00:23:01.780 you know, they're trying to count everything that the end user of their product does with it. So I think the

00:23:07.860 potato example is very simple and people can understand it. This means they're trying to determine what

00:23:15.140 what you do with that potato. Do you bake it? Do you fry it? Do you deep fry it? Do you air fry it? You

00:23:21.780 know, so you can imagine how complicated that would be. So the other side of that is that there's a push to

00:23:29.460 also have a personal carbon ration. So you would actually become the verifier of those end user

00:23:37.860 carbon molecules, right? Now that's not the carbon, personal carbon ration is not part of the CSSB,

00:23:47.620 but that would be the end result. But the CSSB is asking people, corporations, to make analysis using

00:23:58.100 climate scenarios that are implausible, and then they also have to make numbers of analysis as to whether or

00:24:04.500 not it's going to be disorderly achievement of net zero, orderly achievement, too little too late,

00:24:14.260 or hot house earth. These are their four transition scenarios. So first of all, like there is no hot

00:24:21.860 house earth. Secondly, not, you know, we've just seen Vaclav Smil's report from the Fraser Institute

00:24:30.100 showing that net zero is impossible, is very unlikely to achieve. We also did a report called

00:24:37.380 Getting to Net Zero, where we looked at the Canada Energy Regulators plans for how we get to net zero,

00:24:44.660 versus a left-leaning organization, the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, which did a very brutal,

00:24:52.740 factual analysis. So the Canadian energy regulator is claiming that, oh, you know, if heat pumps only

00:25:00.260 dropped 30 percent in price by 2030, and we sold millions of them, then we'd cut our emissions in

00:25:07.780 half. You know, very wild, exaggerated assumptions. One of the assumptions was that we would use direct air

00:25:18.180 capture at a rate that I believe was 5,000 percent of what the world rate is, right? 5,000 times. So, you know,

00:25:29.620 these assumptions are ridiculous. Anyway, the CCPA report is very blunt, and it basically says that

00:25:37.460 to achieve net zero, Canadians have to accept the fact of degrowth and deindustrialization and cutting

00:25:44.500 your personal emissions drastically. So, you know, you can't reach net zero. So the CSSB is asking

00:25:54.500 chartered accountants and companies to come up with a solution or with a plan to meet something that's

00:26:01.860 impossible to meet. And what sort of influence do these people have as far as influence on policy

00:26:10.340 makers? Huge influence, huge influence. It was actually Christy Freeland who invited the CSSB to

00:26:16.980 set up an office or the ISSB to set up an office in Canada, and that it would be under the umbrella of

00:26:23.380 the chartered professional accountants. Now, chartered professional accountants are supposed to be the

00:26:28.340 people who help us make rational decisions about financing and money. And if you look at the list of

00:26:34.980 signatories on the letter that Christy Freeland sent, you know, it's groups like even AIMCO,

00:26:42.020 you know, all the big pension funds, OMERS, they all want to have some kind of standardized reporting.

00:26:50.420 But what are they reporting on? They're not reporting on anything practical. So, you know, this is also

00:26:58.340 a huge trough for all the environmental groups because, you know, these consulting fees are estimated

00:27:05.700 to be, I think Dr. Tammy Nemeth has done a couple of articles on this, one in the Financial Post and

00:27:11.140 one in the Hub. The consulting fees to do this kind of analysis would be, you know, in the $100,000 to $400,000

00:27:17.380 area. Very, very complex mathematics and you have to know how to, you know, make it look right.

00:27:25.220 Right.

00:27:26.020 The mom and pop operations will be crushed by this. They can't do this kind of reporting.

00:27:31.780 Yeah.

00:27:32.500 They're trying to sell cookies or whatever they sell, you know, but ultimately it will come down to them

00:27:41.220 because they're receiving some of the materials from the big corporations who will ultimately be asked,

00:27:46.660 and what are those guys emitting?

00:27:49.860 This is impossible. Yeah.

00:27:52.580 It's absolutely impossible. And as you say, when small businesses are being crushed already by the

00:27:58.900 carbon tax and over regulation, municipal taxes, all sorts of onerous rules and hoops that they have to

00:28:07.940 jump through and abide by, how are they to do this? I mean, it's impossible.

00:28:12.820 Right. So you can see our letter. We posted our letter to the CSSB on our website and, you know,

00:28:19.780 in a kind of a total irony, you know, the recent regulations about not greenwashing regarding fossil

00:28:28.340 fuels and net zero. Well, how would that apply to these guys who are making reports on how they're

00:28:33.940 going to achieve something that's not possible to achieve? Will they all be? That's the other thing

00:28:39.700 that Tammy Nemeth says, you know, that the shareholder liability and the lawfare from ENGOs would just

00:28:48.740 blossom with this kind of legislation.

00:28:51.220 Yeah. Well, and I'm so glad you pointed out the consultant class in this country, because as you

00:28:57.940 know, that's unfolding right now at the federal government with McKinsey getting, I think it's 209

00:29:04.580 million dollars in consulting contracts. Many of them have no proof of work and most of them were rigged

00:29:11.300 to favor McKinsey. And McKinsey's contracting went up, I think, 2,500 percent since 2016. That's the value

00:29:21.940 of their contracts with the federal government. Just imagine all these environmental ENGOs who are

00:29:28.660 already getting favorable tax status in this country through their charitable status, enriching themselves

00:29:36.820 with federal money because they are the consultants in this shakedown racket.

00:29:42.260 Right. And we just saw Mark Carney, who was claiming that he was representing himself as an individual

00:29:50.740 presenting to the Senate. Now, of course, he's the former governor of the Bank of Canada,

00:29:55.540 former governor of the Bank of England. So he brings with him an aura of a lot of rationality.

00:30:02.900 He was pushing for Senator Rosa Galvez Bill S-243. And that bill would install on every board of directors

00:30:15.700 a climate expert. So that would be from this consulting class as well. And it would not allow anyone with

00:30:24.340 actual expertise who has been working in the fossil fuel industry within the past five years to be a board

00:30:31.940 member. So you're actually going to have hyped up ideologues on boards that are dealing with critical

00:30:41.060 infrastructure and supply of services. And Mark Carney thinks that's a good idea, this Bill S-243.

00:30:49.460 Yeah, we wouldn't want any actual experts involved.

00:30:55.380 Right. So all of these things are converging to really put a choke hold on the energy operations in

00:31:04.580 Canada. And, you know, the public health is at risk without adequate and reliable supply of

00:31:15.540 reliable energy. Then we suffer and many of us die. And it's that simple. There's no two ways about it.

00:31:25.940 So if you're a farmer, you're creating food for us, you need energy to run your tractor to do the

00:31:31.540 harvesting to dry your grain. If you're a manufacturer, you need energy to can that food,

00:31:38.100 to make the things that we need to build houses and all this crazy, you know, carbon dioxide reporting

00:31:46.660 stuff. It's just noise that does nothing. It's not productive in any way. And, you know, we're a

00:31:54.660 country that's now on the ropes in terms of our national economy. The last thing we need is more ridiculous

00:32:02.020 legislation, more layers of rules, more accounting of carbon molecules, you know, when it does nothing

00:32:13.300 for anyone. And it just makes it harder and harder to do business here.

00:32:16.980 Yeah, and it makes a lot of people richer and a lot of other people poorer. Michelle, how do people

00:32:25.300 find the work that you do and support the work that you do at Friends of Science? Because you'll

00:32:30.900 never take a penny from any level of government, how would you hold them to account if you ever did?

00:32:36.420 But you're also up against people who do take a lot of money from the government, as in these

00:32:41.380 environmental NGOs. So you, your videos, by the way, are great, because they take these big,

00:32:49.700 extra confusing, I think purposefully confusing concepts, and you break them down into small bite

00:32:55.460 size pieces that normal people can understand. And that takes time and it takes resources. And I think,

00:33:02.180 you know, every little bit helps. So tell us how people can get involved.

00:33:05.940 Okay. Well, you know, we're a small nonprofit. We're run by volunteers. We do have a handful of

00:33:12.500 contracted suppliers that we have to pay. And we do have to pay for our videos, of course.

00:33:18.180 We have never monetized our videos. Like a lot of people think, oh, you guys have like 53,000 followers.

00:33:24.100 You must make a lot of money on your videos. But we don't. We've never made a penny from our videos.

00:33:29.540 But if people who watched our videos gave us a dollar, that would be very helpful.

00:33:34.500 If you gave us 20, that would be even more helpful. We're in our 22nd year of operations. So

00:33:40.100 you can send e-transfer to contact at friendsofscience.org. And if you want to send us

00:33:47.620 $1 or $20 or $22, that would be great. Or even more, that would be fine. But we're very happy with

00:33:54.500 small sums. You can become a member. It's $40 for one year, $80 for three years. And if you go to our main

00:34:01.460 website, you can see a join or donate button there. And you can share our material. And most of all,

00:34:10.100 you know, we provide the material free to the public. We don't have lobbyists in Ottawa. All the big green

00:34:16.100 groups have dozens of lobbyists in Ottawa. Literally hundreds of people are lobbying the government on

00:34:23.860 behalf of the green groups. We don't have any. We're not a federally registered lobbyist. We give the

00:34:30.020 material to the public and we say, here it is. Do with it as you see fit. So we really rely on you

00:34:38.660 to be our foot soldiers and our supporters. So we're very grateful for our loyal members and supporters

00:34:45.860 over the years. But we do need more help. We need to get our messages out there. It's critical now,

00:34:52.100 because a lot of very dumb ideas are being pushed by very influential people and groups. So if you can

00:35:00.580 help, please do. Yes. And unlike what the federal government would want on these advisory boards,

00:35:08.660 you actually employ experts to do the work that you do. It's not just a bunch of ideologues. These

00:35:16.260 are scientists and professional engineers who are examining these bad ideas for what it will

00:35:23.860 practically mean for the taxpayer in your pocket and in your lifestyle and in your family, which I think

00:35:29.460 is important work that you do. Michelle, thanks so much for coming on the show. Thank you also from the

00:35:35.380 bottom of my heart for being part of our documentary, Made, The Dark Side of Canadian Compassion and

00:35:40.340 telling your family story there. I think you will change hearts and minds there. I so appreciate how

00:35:45.460 raw and honest you were. And I can't wait to see what you guys do next. And I'll have you back on the

00:35:50.900 show very soon. Thank you so much, Sheila. All the best. And thank you for all you guys do. You're amazing

00:35:57.620 rebel out there every day.

00:36:03.300 Well, we've come to the portion of the show wherein we invite your fewer feedback because

00:36:06.980 without you, there would be no rebel news, right? We'll never take a penny from Justin Trudeau.

00:36:10.740 We're just like friends of science in that way. And how could we hold him to account if we did?

00:36:15.300 I'm looking at you mainstream media, but it's the reason I also open up my email to you

00:36:22.020 because you should have your say. If we exist only through your support, then I kind of have to

00:36:28.420 listen to the shareholders, don't I? So if you want to send me an email, it's Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:36:36.500 Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know why you're emailing me. But don't let that be the

00:36:41.780 bar for entry. If you're watching free clips of the show over on Rumble or YouTube, just leave me a

00:36:48.420 comment there. I go looking over there quite frequently about 50% of the time.

00:36:54.100 Today's gun show letter though does come from the email inbox and it comes from a loyal rebel news

00:37:00.820 viewer, Bruce. Bruce lives in Radway with his cat and he sends me letters from time to time. And it's

00:37:07.460 been a while since I read one of Bruce's letters. And if you would like a lively back and forth the way

00:37:14.260 Bruce and I have, I might suggest you start sending me some emails. Okay. Now Bruce writes to me on

00:37:20.100 last week's show with my friend, Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. And he says,

00:37:26.900 Hi, Sheila. I don't mind at all if you go along with your guests. They're all fascinating. Why

00:37:30.820 people would want shorter shows is beyond me. Chris Sims is especially charming and interesting.

00:37:36.580 Oh, Bruce, I second that motion. Let's keep going. Whenever I hear of all the waste and interest

00:37:41.620 charges, the liberals have foisted on us. I imagine all the good that money could have done for us.

00:37:46.500 Imagine all the hospitals, which could be built. Imagine all the doctors and especially specialists

00:37:50.580 that could be hired. Imagine all the specialty equipment, which could be purchased. Imagine to

00:37:56.500 all the help veterans, seniors and disabled folks could have if that money wasn't squandered on stupid 0.83

00:38:00.900 stuff. It angers me whenever I hear of how these pompous ministers and bureaucrats treat our concerns

00:38:06.740 with contempt. Me too. By the way, why is Rebel News taking ads from Timu, a company which has a

00:38:14.340 parent company linked to the Chinese communist? China in focus has done two stories already on Timu.

00:38:20.740 I also wrote to Rebel News about this, but nobody answered. I hate it when companies get too big to

00:38:25.380 answer our mail. Please mention this story in your morning meeting. I'm mentioning it right now,

00:38:30.260 and I will bring it up in the morning meeting. But what I do know about how Google serves up ads to you,

00:38:36.900 has almost nothing to do with us. So what I see as an ad on our website served up to us by Google AdSense

00:38:48.500 is going to be entirely different than what you see. And it's based on your interests and the things

00:38:54.020 you've browsed, much like how if you're on Facebook and you have been searching for something on Facebook

00:38:59.460 marketplace and then all of a sudden you see ads for that same thing served up to you, or maybe it's

00:39:05.860 been eavesdropping on you and all of a sudden you get ads served up for a teardrop trailer.

00:39:12.420 I've been served up and you're like, I never even searched for that you eavesdropping weirdos.

00:39:17.860 That's what happens. So I know that you have an interest in Timu as it pertains to its links to

00:39:24.500 the Chinese Communist Party. So you've probably done some Googling on that or you've watched some stuff

00:39:28.500 on that. And so now the Google algorithm says, oh, he is curious about Timu. Let's serve him up some

00:39:36.180 of those ads. So that's what's happened. So we are not working directly with Timu. Don't think that at

00:39:43.700 all. But that's why you're seeing that. And so what you see will be completely different than mine.

00:39:49.300 And now that I have been talking repeatedly about Timu, guess what I'm going to get next time I log

00:39:56.660 on to rebelnews.com. Probably an ad from Timu, thanks to the dark overlords at Google.

00:40:06.180 So, you know, that's how that works.

00:40:10.100 Well, everybody, that's the show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody

00:40:14.020 back here in the same time in the same place next weekend. As always,

00:40:17.860 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - June 12, 2024

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The extreme green agenda to replace beautiful neighbourhoods with 15-minute cities

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