Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Trudeau Liberals forced to delay firearms confiscation compensation program

00:00:00.000 The Liberals quietly extended their so-called gun buyback program at the last minute.

00:00:06.440 Are the wheels falling off the Liberals' gun control agenda?

00:00:09.860 We'll talk about it today.

00:00:11.320 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:00:30.000 Two weeks ago, at really what appears to be the very last minute, the Liberals decided to extend their so-called amnesty period for gun owners who had not yet turned over their lawfully acquired firearms to the state for destruction after their firearms were just reclassified out of the ether through an order in council by the Liberal government.

00:00:56.060 And in May 2020, Justin Trudeau, apropos of a tragedy not involving lawful Canadian gun owners, decided to reclassify 1,500 models of Canadian shotguns and rifles, calling them assault-style weapons, which is really a word that means nothing.

00:01:17.340 It's completely undefined, and the Liberals like it that way, because that way you can continue to, as the Liberals did, shoehorn other models into the ban until, you know, now the ban approaches 2,000 models.

00:01:32.120 But what of the owners?

00:01:34.540 Well, the owners were supposed to, by the end of this month in 2023, turn over our firearms to the state, wherein the state would allegedly compensate us for the loss of our lawfully acquired property.

00:01:50.680 It was not a buyback program.

00:01:52.580 You can't buy back something you didn't own in the first place.

00:01:55.120 It was compensation for confiscation, as lawful Canadian gun owners were scapegoated for the crimes of other people, including the rising crime rates in Canada's urban municipalities.

00:02:08.560 And as you'll note, those urban municipalities are progressively run.

00:02:14.880 You know, name a major city in this country that isn't run by a progressive mayor.

00:02:19.360 I'll wait.

00:02:20.240 Anyway, at the last minute, the Liberals decided to extend their buyback program, buyback program, to October 2025.

00:02:32.760 If these guns are so deadly, and people like me who may or may not own them are so dangerous, wouldn't you want to get them off the street right away?

00:02:41.080 Well, thanks to liberal ineptitude, they can't manage to figure it out.

00:02:45.100 So maybe we really aren't all that dangerous after all.

00:02:48.740 But this is just one way that the Liberals' gun control agenda is just coming apart at the seams.

00:02:57.420 So joining me today is good friend of Rebel News, good friend of the show, and good friend of the firearms community, Rick Igersich from Canada's National Firearms Association,

00:03:08.960 talking about, well, just the complete and total mess that the Liberals are making of gun control in this country.

00:03:17.200 And I think, frankly, we should be glad that they are so bad at it.

00:03:21.260 Anyway, here's my interview with Rick.

00:03:30.060 So joining me now is Rick Igersich with the National Firearms Association.

00:03:34.260 There's so much happening in gun news as the Liberals are letting things just ride right down to the wire.

00:03:39.800 And they're proposing new gun bans and they're banning guns just completely off the cuff.

00:03:45.660 Rick, thanks for joining me.

00:03:47.880 And thanks for being such a good friend to Rebel News and to gun owners like myself.

00:03:51.860 I wanted to talk to you about this thing that sort of happened in the middle of last week regarding the Tavor.

00:04:00.600 Hi, Sheila.

00:04:01.220 Thanks for having me again.

00:04:02.480 And it's always a pleasure to be on your show.

00:04:06.140 At the end of the day, we got blindsided by the RCMP once again.

00:04:11.600 On October 25th, actually, on October 5th, the RCMP decided that they were going to ban another firearm.

00:04:23.060 And that firearm being Micro Tavor X95 MSW Carabine.

00:04:29.020 Okay, these guns were imported in Canada over the last 10 years.

00:04:34.160 There's several of them out in public.

00:04:38.380 We don't know the exact numbers because of privacy issues.

00:04:41.760 We have a rough idea, but there's several hundred of them out there.

00:04:46.260 But on October 5th, the owners of these firearms began receiving registration revocation letters prohibiting the firearm from the RCMP.

00:04:56.480 The RCMP, actually, on further review, and I just got this intelligence a few days ago, they're calling the firearm a machine gun now.

00:05:10.900 Which is a classic RCMP, in my opinion, a make-work project with the Liberals.

00:05:18.640 But anyway, we'll get into it a little more.

00:05:20.240 As I mentioned earlier, what we can tell, there were several hundred of these firearms sold.

00:05:30.140 With this registration revocation letter, the RCMP gave the owners of these firearms some options.

00:05:40.440 They didn't give them all the options, but they gave them a few.

00:05:42.940 The NFA actually gave them another option, which I'll get into a little later.

00:05:46.620 The first option was to turn the firearm into your local RCMP detachment for destruction with no compensation.

00:05:54.960 Where does that sound familiar?

00:05:56.940 No compensation.

00:05:59.140 The second was to get the firearm deactivated and verified so you could possess it.

00:06:06.360 So that process involved sending the firearm to a person who could deactivate it,

00:06:12.400 and then it had to go to the firearm center in Ottawa to be verified that it was deactivated.

00:06:19.160 And in our opinion, in most cases, the firearm never would have been returned back to the owner

00:06:24.140 because how can you absolutely 100% deactivate a firearm?

00:06:29.700 It's virtually impossible.

00:06:32.160 So that was the second option.

00:06:33.900 The third option was to take it back to the store where you purchased it.

00:06:41.700 The firearm would be sent back to the wholesaler.

00:06:45.640 The wholesaler would give a store credit to the wholesale price of the firearm.

00:06:52.840 Not the retail price, but the wholesale price of the firearm.

00:06:56.260 Not cash back, but a store credit to the initial point of purchase.

00:07:00.000 The problem with that is some of these firearms changed hands two or three times.

00:07:05.240 So therefore, this was only available to the original purchaser.

00:07:09.260 So that was the third option.

00:07:11.180 The fourth option brings us at Canada's National Firearms into play.

00:07:18.400 We launched this out over all our social media platforms that if you contact us,

00:07:24.680 we can provide you with a package on how to file a Section 74 reference review.

00:07:30.920 This, in turn, extends the time that the firearms owner has to comply with the ultimatum from the RCMP.

00:07:41.500 And it also gives us time to delve deeper into this and possibly challenge this registration and revocation.

00:07:48.180 So anybody out there that has one of these firearms, please contact us.

00:07:53.640 Actually, contact Blair.

00:07:55.340 The email is blair at nfa.ca.

00:07:58.240 And we will provide you with a package on how to go about filing a Section 74 reference review.

00:08:06.760 That will put your firearm basically in limbo for the time being until we can figure this out

00:08:14.560 and figure out exactly what's going on.

00:08:16.420 In my opinion, this whole thing was another collaboration between the RCMP and the Liberal government

00:08:25.840 just to add another wedge issue to firearms owners.

00:08:30.960 So please, anybody that has one of these firearms out there, please contact us at blair at nfa.ca.

00:08:36.760 And we will provide you with a package on how to move forward with a Section 94 reference review.

00:08:43.700 And that will definitely prolong the time period from which you have to use one of the other three options.

00:08:52.520 So, Rick, explain this for non-gun owners, because this is something that gun owners have been dealing with for a long time.

00:08:59.260 And I just want to be clear.

00:09:00.440 This sort of stuff puts gun owners at odds with their friends in the RCMP because the RCMP brass and busybodies

00:09:08.200 in the RCMP bureaucracy have decided to just, outside of Parliament, reclassify a gun.

00:09:16.480 This happened previously with the CZ 858.

00:09:19.760 Gun owners woke up. 0.71

00:09:21.600 They go to sleep.

00:09:23.220 They're completely on the right side of the law.

00:09:25.160 They wake up in the morning and they're a criminal in possession of a prohibited weapon.

00:09:29.260 Explain to people how this can happen to a gun owner.

00:09:32.480 Because if this happened to any other piece of private property, there would be uproar.

00:09:37.460 But because this happens to guns and gun owners, nobody's, well, I won't say nobody seems to care.

00:09:42.720 But it seems to be a bit of a niche issue for a lot of the Canadian population.

00:09:48.380 It goes beyond the 858.

00:09:50.180 They did it with the Ruger 10-22 Megs.

00:09:52.240 One day you're out shooting gophers with your Ruger 10-22, with your 25-shot magazine,

00:09:57.040 and the next day it's a prohibited device.

00:10:00.260 The RCMP has been given more powers than I believe they need to have.

00:10:08.220 It's almost like they're, when the RCMP starts making laws, they're no longer a law enforcement body.

00:10:15.920 They're an agent for the government to create laws.

00:10:21.860 And in Canada, a police body doesn't make laws.

00:10:27.140 The government does.

00:10:28.660 So how they do this, it's, again, it's the Liberal government giving them powers that should be going through Parliament

00:10:38.940 instead of through a local police force.

00:10:41.860 When a police force starts to make laws, the state becomes a police state,

00:10:46.640 not a free Canadian parliament.

00:10:56.580 It becomes a police state.

00:10:57.580 And right now, in my opinion, the RCMP are acting like we are in a police state making these laws out of the blue.

00:11:04.360 Now, they do have powers as far as working with the government to make changes to the Firearms Act

00:11:14.280 and to the Firearms Reference Table.

00:11:16.100 But I believe stuff like this should be going through Parliament, not through the RCMP, not through a police force.

00:11:22.040 Yeah, I mean, this should be put to the people and it should be done by people that we can hold accountable during elections.

00:11:31.900 And some anti-gun bureaucrat somewhere in the RCMP is making laws affecting Canadian gun owners

00:11:40.680 and rendering our private property completely useless or of little to no value.

00:11:48.680 When you decommission a gun, where's its value?

00:11:52.040 You know, that's exactly right.

00:11:53.560 You know, just like their order in council with a handgun freeze,

00:11:57.840 they basically made millions and millions of dollars worth of property worthless overnight.

00:12:01.460 It's the same thing.

00:12:02.540 It's just it's an extension of powers that I don't believe should be there.

00:12:08.000 And I think, well, you know what?

00:12:09.760 We need at the end of the day, we need a government change.

00:12:12.760 Yeah.

00:12:13.580 Yeah.

00:12:13.780 And someone who will strip the bureaucrats and the RCMP of this power.

00:12:17.720 I know members of the RCMP who don't want the RCMP to have this power.

00:12:22.360 These are the guys tasked with enforcing bad laws and they don't want to do it.

00:12:26.400 It puts them at odds with their community.

00:12:28.680 And they end up being the face of bad decisions made by somebody in a cubicle somewhere who never

00:12:35.440 has to face people like you or like me, Rick.

00:12:38.400 I want to talk to you about other bad liberal decisions.

00:12:43.520 I know we've just sort of touched on it.

00:12:45.340 The reclassification of 1500, although that quickly grew.

00:12:50.420 I think it's near 2000 models of Canadian shotguns and rifles.

00:12:56.720 And the liberals continue to add to that list.

00:13:00.040 They did it undemocratically through an order in council.

00:13:02.640 And they said to us, turn over your guns.

00:13:07.400 Maybe you'll get compensated appropriately.

00:13:10.700 And you're a criminal if you don't.

00:13:13.440 But the liberals, thankfully, their own ineptitude has resulted in this thing being pushed down

00:13:19.860 the road until October 2025.

00:13:22.920 Explain to us how that happened.

00:13:24.980 Well, that happened for a number of reasons.

00:13:27.760 The first one, there was nothing in place, you know, no logistics.

00:13:33.840 There was nothing in place to start this alleged confiscation.

00:13:39.760 It's not alleged.

00:13:40.820 It's definitely to start this confiscation of firearms.

00:13:43.980 Number two, there was no money really allotted to do this because they really don't know how

00:13:48.860 much money they need because a lot of these firearms aren't registered.

00:13:52.000 They're out there.

00:13:53.240 And they really don't know how much money they really need.

00:13:57.480 The third issue was after SECU and Bill C-21 and the order in council in 71, it was actually

00:14:05.540 driving the liberal popularity down.

00:14:08.540 And I think that was a big part of it.

00:14:10.340 So they had no other choice but to extend it.

00:14:13.760 With that said, I know with our order in council case that the NFA is funding, we were advised

00:14:21.120 quite some time before that, that there will be an extension.

00:14:25.100 I know other groups filed an injunction, but our lawyer advised us not to because the injection,

00:14:31.760 Justice Cain and the federal crown had told them that there was an amnesty extension in place.

00:14:39.580 It just hadn't been activated yet.

00:14:42.080 So at the NFA, we didn't want to waste any members' resources as far as filing an injunction

00:14:47.120 because injunctions are expensive.

00:14:49.580 There's no doubt about it.

00:14:51.240 We sooner, you know, use the money where it can actually help reverse some of this stuff.

00:14:57.060 So that's why I just wanted to clarify, that's why the NFA didn't file an injunction.

00:15:00.880 It was on our lawyer's advice and on Justice Cain and the federal crown that there definitely

00:15:07.640 was going to be, there was going to be an extension put into place and all parties involved in

00:15:14.440 the case were notified of that.

00:15:17.140 The big reason is, and again, I go back to the big reason is, the liberals have nothing

00:15:23.780 in place to do any of this.

00:15:26.780 I know they're running into a few snags with a couple of the provinces, actually, Terry

00:15:33.220 Bryant and Rob Freeberg yesterday in SECD actually stated that, again, that they're not

00:15:40.980 going to use provincial resources to help them do this.

00:15:44.540 And I totally agree with that.

00:15:46.520 Those are two CFOs that are really pushing for on the right side of things and are really

00:15:51.200 pushing for firearms owners.

00:15:52.680 And I, you know, I thank them both for doing what they're doing.

00:15:56.780 But at the end of the day, like I say, there's nothing in place to keep this going.

00:16:01.440 And the irony of this whole thing is also, if this amnesty, the current amnesty would have

00:16:12.400 expired, that would have left the liberals in a really awkward place because at the end

00:16:19.700 of the day, they probably would have had to withdrew the whole thing.

00:16:22.560 So that was another reason they extended it.

00:16:24.640 If it would have expired, I believe, you know, that the thing would have been null and void

00:16:30.520 because they didn't act on it.

00:16:32.300 So that was the other reason that it probably got extended.

00:16:37.660 You know, and they left it right down to the wire.

00:16:39.940 Like people were very concerned that they would have been criminals because they didn't turn

00:16:46.720 in their guns.

00:16:47.340 But there was no program in place for them to turn in their guns.

00:16:51.380 And it seemed like the liberals didn't care because we're just these people that would

00:16:55.360 never vote for them anyway.

00:16:57.740 You almost think they did that on purpose just to, you know, wind people up.

00:17:03.480 They had a lot of time.

00:17:04.720 They knew what they were doing long before they extended the amnesty.

00:17:08.400 But I think it's part of their MO is to, you know, get people excited and thinking and,

00:17:17.340 you know, maybe change some votes and stuff.

00:17:19.400 But I think that's the way, and you know it just as well as I know it should, that's the

00:17:25.360 way that the liberals work. 0.77

00:17:26.600 They bring anxiety up in people and then at the 11th hour, they change things.

00:17:32.420 And that's been their MO all along.

00:17:35.880 They're merchants of fear.

00:17:38.860 That's how they govern.

00:17:40.620 That's how they impose legislation. 1.00

00:17:42.720 That's how they get people to comply.

00:17:44.620 They are absolute merchants of fear.

00:17:46.680 That's how they justified the OIC, the Order and Council in the first place.

00:17:51.540 They pitted urban Canadians and Canadians who don't know anything about guns against people 0.93

00:17:56.660 who enjoy part of their hunting heritage and enjoy the lawful use and ownership of their

00:18:04.060 legally acquired property.

00:18:06.040 They made us the bad guys because they didn't want to deal with the real bad guys.

00:18:11.340 Yeah.

00:18:12.100 Well, you know, and at SECD, LeBlanc, he was talking in circles again yesterday too.

00:18:18.660 He just, you know, they put him in as the cleanup guy and he was talking in circles.

00:18:24.600 You know, he was bringing, he was bringing in the people of the North to, you know, that

00:18:33.020 there's, there's going to be a different rule for them and, you know, and then, you know,

00:18:37.080 maybe pass it on to the provinces and let the provinces decide how they're going to handle

00:18:41.180 this, this, these, this bill, this, this changes in the law.

00:18:46.420 You know, the guy was just talking in circles.

00:18:47.900 He didn't, he didn't really know what he was talking about.

00:18:50.800 And, uh, in my opinion, anything he said wasn't credible.

00:18:55.220 You know, I, it's almost like he knows what's going on, but he doesn't.

00:18:58.300 I don't know.

00:18:58.600 That's the feeling I was getting with that said on a Thursday, November 2nd, I will be

00:19:02.900 giving testimony at SECD regarding C21.

00:19:06.900 Uh, I'm going to approach it a little different than everybody else does.

00:19:10.400 I'm going to approach it as a, as a, as a layman.

00:19:13.280 I'm not an academic.

00:19:14.380 I'm not a lawyer.

00:19:15.180 I'm not a politician.

00:19:16.520 I'm going to, I'm going to speak to the Senate as somebody that this affects somebody on

00:19:21.300 the ground, somebody that, uh, that, you know, has heirlooms that are third generation

00:19:26.720 heirlooms.

00:19:27.640 I'm going to put it, I'm going to put it to him as a layman because, uh, you know, we

00:19:32.660 get a bunch of, uh, academics and lawyers and stuff giving testimony.

00:19:37.000 And it just, I think in my opinion, it confuses the Senate.

00:19:41.220 I think it needs to be clear and simple.

00:19:43.440 And I'm willing to field any good questions they have for me because, you know, the, the,

00:19:48.560 the facts don't change and the facts don't lie.

00:19:51.420 Yeah.

00:19:52.100 You know, I'm, I'm so glad that you're going to approach it that way because, you know,

00:19:55.640 you can get caught up in, you know, the science of ballistics and, and crime studies, but none

00:20:02.720 of that has anything to do with me or you as a lawful user.

00:20:07.440 Uh, really, uh, we're not the ones committing the crimes.

00:20:10.780 It doesn't matter the ballistics of my heirloom firearm that my ancestors used to clear the

00:20:16.740 land and protect their livestock where I live today.

00:20:19.460 And I will not be able to give those to my children.

00:20:22.240 The heirlooms die with me.

00:20:24.000 And there's, you know, to have somebody who's willing to communicate that on behalf of,

00:20:28.500 you know, just people like me, just normal people who just want to be able to hang on

00:20:33.580 to a little bit of their family history.

00:20:36.320 So many of us can't do that.

00:20:38.220 I want to just circle back to Dominic LeBlanc's testimony here because, you know, you said

00:20:42.920 he was just sort of making things up as he went now, Dominic LeBlanc, the public safety

00:20:48.180 minister.

00:20:49.280 One thing he said was very, very true though, and it should frighten gun owners.

00:20:53.200 And it is the potential for not the potential, the promise of a future decree of more guns

00:21:01.320 being banned.

00:21:02.100 He promised that in his testimony yesterday.

00:21:04.620 So whatever happens with Bill C-21, whatever happens with the Ordering Council, the fight

00:21:09.980 is nowhere near done because no matter how many times the Liberals lose in court, how many

00:21:15.580 times they have to kick the can down the road of the compensation program, they're still

00:21:19.820 coming at us because this is part of who they are.

00:21:22.060 It's part of the Liberal DNA.

00:21:24.060 Wow.

00:21:24.440 And there comes their Firearms Advisory Committee into play.

00:21:28.400 Now, this is supposedly supposed to be comprised of people from all parts of the government

00:21:37.100 and the firearms world.

00:21:39.440 Sure.

00:21:40.280 We at the NFA applied for it.

00:21:42.120 We haven't heard anything back yet.

00:21:43.520 I doubt very much they want to hear our opinion on this stuff.

00:21:47.400 Everybody knows at the end of the day, this is going to be comprised of bureaucrats, politicians,

00:21:51.800 and lawyers, and they're going to follow the Liberal wave without any input from people

00:21:59.460 like you and I, Sheila.

00:22:01.120 Oh, and women's groups.

00:22:02.860 Women's groups.

00:22:03.520 But not women's groups that involve women like me, but women's groups who advocate for

00:22:08.620 the disarming of women like me.

00:22:10.540 That'll be one thing.

00:22:11.580 You know, Rick, now that we're talking about this, I'm going to flip you some documents.

00:22:14.760 We're recording this on Tuesday.

00:22:15.860 The show will go out on Wednesday, but I have a story going live today.

00:22:19.760 I got my hands on the communications strategy for Bill C-21 and their targeted social media

00:22:26.900 plan.

00:22:27.580 And guess who the first, like they had the groups divided into like primary, secondary,

00:22:33.860 and tertiary that the Liberals planned to communicate with.

00:22:38.420 Primary, LGBTQ, or...

00:22:39.860 You call Polytechnic, right?

00:22:41.260 Yeah, Polytechnic, LGBTQ organizations like EGAL, and women's groups.

00:22:49.220 Those were the three on the top of the list.

00:22:52.160 Second group, the RCMP and law enforcement.

00:22:56.160 They were trying to get the chiefs of police on side with them.

00:23:00.760 And it's funny how the people tasked with enforcing the bad law were the people that,

00:23:04.980 the second people they wanted to talk to, not the first.

00:23:08.180 And then the tertiary groups were the people they described as least affected by the messaging,

00:23:18.560 gun groups and gun owners.

00:23:20.360 We were the third on their list of considerations.

00:23:24.000 We were just like a sort of like the pencil in.

00:23:26.260 And it shows.

00:23:27.700 It shows in the legislation.

00:23:29.280 There's no surprise there.

00:23:30.520 There's no, absolutely no surprise there.

00:23:32.140 You know, that's to be expected.

00:23:33.620 You know, I've been at this for a little while now, and I've been finding that gun owners 0.91

00:23:42.140 from across Canada, law-abiding Canadians, are the Liberals' play toys.

00:23:48.280 They use us to get what they need.

00:23:51.480 When there's an election coming up, the big bad gun stuff comes out.

00:23:55.580 When they're down in the polls, the big bad gun stuff comes up.

00:23:59.900 On the other hand, sometimes they mess up like SECU, where they were put on the spot

00:24:07.500 and they were caught in a bunch of lies, and it works against them.

00:24:11.960 And guess what happens?

00:24:13.060 I don't know if you noticed or not, but the gun issue seems to go way down in the list,

00:24:16.800 which it has in the last few weeks after the changes were made,

00:24:22.640 after Mendocino got moved, after Pam Damoff was taken off public safety.

00:24:28.740 You know, and it's groups like ours that catch them in these lies, and we put it out there.

00:24:35.540 And that makes a big difference because we have a pretty extensive reach,

00:24:40.020 which now seems like we're being shadow banned.

00:24:43.540 Oh, for sure.

00:24:44.120 Yeah, and, you know, lately we've been shadow banned, and, you know, with C-11 and C-18 coming into force,

00:24:52.420 it's hurting organizations that are actually getting the truth out there.

00:24:58.220 It's another containment ploy by the Liberals to control mainstream media.

00:25:04.120 And you know what?

00:25:05.220 They're really good at it.

00:25:06.460 You know, give mainstream media lots of money, and you've got a really good hold of them.

00:25:12.120 So I'm sure you guys at Rebel are seeing the same thing, Sheila.

00:25:16.720 And, you know, it's just, you know, it's hard these days to get the truth out.

00:25:25.540 I know, and I just want to mention this, and I know you guys are doing the same thing.

00:25:30.300 We're going to be offering a VPN so people can actually receive Canadian news through a different country.

00:25:38.120 It seems in today's world, it's the only way that we can get the word out because, like I say,

00:25:45.440 on our platforms, we're definitely being shadow banned.

00:25:49.380 And any news that we want to share, we can't share in Canada because of Bill C-11 and C-18.

00:25:57.140 So I don't know if you wanted to touch more on that, Sheila, but, you know, that's the crazy part of today's world.

00:26:02.280 Yeah, where can people find out more about your VPN? On the NFA website?

00:26:10.000 Yeah, we haven't put it out yet. This is kind of an early release.

00:26:14.700 We're just working on it, and we're just finalizing it right now.

00:26:17.140 It will be on the NFA website. It will be offered at a discounted price so people can hear the news.

00:26:24.060 Because I think, you know, it's just the way, this is, the world is a crazy place right now,

00:26:30.260 and Canada is a more crazy place, in my opinion.

00:26:32.780 And this is the only way we can reach people that can make a difference.

00:26:36.360 And right now we have to make a difference.

00:26:38.560 You know, every time we have one, every time I have one of these shows with you,

00:26:41.320 and, you know, I always say, you know, get out and vote and change the government.

00:26:44.140 But now get out and write a letter to your MP.

00:26:47.480 We need to, you know, get the word out as far as law-abiding Canadians go.

00:26:54.880 Get the word out to your MP.

00:26:58.480 Tell them what the government is doing to you, what the government is doing to, you know,

00:27:02.380 to your right to listen to Canadian news.

00:27:04.640 You know, get the word out.

00:27:06.060 People need to sit down and start working on this.

00:27:08.420 And I know lately at the NFA, we've been getting a crazy number of calls from gun owners

00:27:15.040 and non-gun owners alike and saying, you know, what's going on with our personal property?

00:27:19.480 Why can't we see anything?

00:27:20.540 You know, we're on your platforms, and all of a sudden we're getting all these blanks

00:27:25.960 that this content isn't available in Canada.

00:27:27.940 What's going on?

00:27:28.840 And, you know, we're inundated with calls about that stuff.

00:27:31.540 And it's just not us.

00:27:32.860 It's people like Rebel News that are getting the same thing, I'm sure, Sheila.

00:27:37.020 I'm sure.

00:27:37.420 I can't see my own work.

00:27:41.740 For example, I can't share a clip of my own work to my own Instagram page,

00:27:46.580 thanks to Justin Trudeau's attempted shakedown of Meta.

00:27:49.980 Yeah.

00:27:50.360 So, you know, and with all this stuff going on in the firearms world,

00:27:53.660 this information and, you know, this Tavor thing, it needs to get out.

00:27:57.040 But how do you get it out when you're getting blocked on every platform that you have?

00:28:02.980 You know, it's so hopefully this show gets out,

00:28:06.020 and hopefully people, you know, do put a VPN on their...

00:28:09.540 It's a sad state of affairs when you have to go through U.S. or Czechoslovakia to hear Canadian news.

00:28:15.940 It's a sad state of affairs in Canada.

00:28:18.580 And hopefully people will see that on our website,

00:28:21.760 and hopefully they'll get a VPN so they can actually hear what we're doing at the NFA

00:28:26.820 and hear what you people at Rebel News are doing.

00:28:30.040 You know, that's a good spot to wrap up the interview because, like you,

00:28:37.040 we are able to email our people directly,

00:28:40.920 and that helps us get around Justin Trudeau's censorship.

00:28:44.100 But the only way for the NFA to be able to email you directly

00:28:47.360 is if you give them your email address and you sign up with them.

00:28:50.560 So tell people how they can support the work that you are doing at the NFA

00:28:56.380 on behalf of law-abiding Canadians all across this country.

00:28:59.780 Reach out to us at nfa.ca, info at nfa.ca.

00:29:06.940 Everything that you need to know about joining and helping and getting news,

00:29:11.760 we do a media blast once a week.

00:29:14.940 When you join, you'll be getting that once a week.

00:29:16.820 Please join. Please become a member.

00:29:20.700 The money goes towards the fight in Ottawa.

00:29:23.280 It's NFA is a non-for-profit organization.

00:29:26.260 We have a few paid employees, but most of the people are volunteers.

00:29:31.440 And, you know, help.

00:29:32.920 You know, we need to get into this fight.

00:29:34.860 We need to get more people in the fight.

00:29:36.220 So please join the NFA.

00:29:39.740 Like I say, your money is going towards the good fight.

00:29:42.800 You know, it's not, you know, our membership is growing at a crazy rate right now.

00:29:51.440 A lot of our members aren't even firearms owners, but they are joining us

00:29:56.700 because of the fight for the rights and freedoms of Canadians.

00:30:00.140 So please join.

00:30:01.820 Another thing, like I said before, write a letter to your MP.

00:30:05.360 Let them know how you feel on what's going on.

00:30:08.340 And number three, when this election finally does come about, get out and vote

00:30:12.860 and get rid of these Trudeau Liberals.

00:30:15.520 Right now, I was looking at Canada 338 polls.

00:30:19.200 Right now, if there were an election today, it'd be a conservative super majority.

00:30:23.940 So, you know, the Liberals are losing ground every day.

00:30:28.040 Please help them lose more ground and get into the fight.

00:30:33.180 Oh, Rick, that's great.

00:30:34.440 That's great advice.

00:30:35.240 I don't care who you vote for, just as long as you don't vote for a Liberal.

00:30:38.640 Exactly.

00:30:39.820 Honestly.

00:30:40.840 Yeah.

00:30:41.880 Well, Rick, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:30:43.960 Thanks for the activism and hard work that you put in for families just like mine.

00:30:48.940 Best of luck in your fight with Ottawa.

00:30:50.820 Seems like there's always something new to fight with Ottawa about.

00:30:53.880 And we'll have you back on again very soon.

00:30:56.380 Thanks, Sheila.

00:30:57.020 Thanks for having me again.

00:30:58.020 I love being on your show.

00:30:59.080 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show wherein I invite your viewer feedback.

00:31:11.080 I say it every week, so I know if you're a regular viewer, it might get a little redundant.

00:31:14.560 But I actually care about what you think about the work that we do here at Rebel News.

00:31:19.740 And I appreciate your viewer feedback, even the bad stuff, because it gives me an opportunity

00:31:25.640 to answer criticisms.

00:31:27.620 Sometimes the criticisms are valid and, you know, we can make things better.

00:31:32.940 And it also gives me an opportunity to tell you why I think the way that I do.

00:31:38.100 You know, if you have an opinion and you can't defend it, then it's maybe not an opinion at all,

00:31:45.100 but rather just an act of faith that you believe that way.

00:31:48.620 Um, and it's the reason I give out my email address right now.

00:31:52.760 It's Sheila at RebelNews.com.

00:31:54.780 Put gun show letters in the subject line so that I can find it easily.

00:31:58.500 Uh, because sometimes I do get upwards of like a hundred emails a day, depending on what sort

00:32:03.400 of controversial or sometimes nonsensical off the cuff thing that I said.

00:32:07.860 So anyways, gun show letters in the subject line, Sheila at RebelNews.com.

00:32:12.520 But also, if you are watching us on one of the free versions of the show on Rumble or

00:32:19.500 YouTube, first, let me thank you for sitting through the ads that helps us pay the bills

00:32:23.860 around here.

00:32:24.900 Um, but also, uh, leave a comment in the comment section.

00:32:30.780 Sometimes I get brave and go looking through the comment section over there for your viewer

00:32:36.700 feedback.

00:32:37.120 Now, today's viewer feedback, it, it came to me as a gun show letter, but it really had

00:32:43.620 nothing to do with the show that I did last week.

00:32:46.760 And that is perfectly fine.

00:32:48.560 That's okay.

00:32:49.500 Um, because it gives me an opportunity to answer a viewer question, which I have been seeing

00:32:56.480 a lot of this particular question.

00:32:58.920 So it comes to me from Steve and Steve says, well, Steve starts off with the, um, the HR

00:33:07.100 practice of putting the criticism in the middle of a compliment sandwich.

00:33:14.180 So anyway, let's, let's read Steve's letter to me.

00:33:17.820 Hi, Sheila.

00:33:18.300 Love your work and your show and Rebel News.

00:33:20.500 My name is Steve from Alliston, Ontario.

00:33:23.180 You know what?

00:33:23.460 I have cousins in Alliston.

00:33:25.080 I donated when you went overseas to drop off petition to help our country in trouble.

00:33:30.080 That was awesome.

00:33:30.660 Okay.

00:33:30.960 So that was when I went with Sarah Miller, our lawyer helping, uh, Pastor Art Poloski,

00:33:38.280 and we drafted a human rights complaint and we delivered it to Geneva, to the United Nations

00:33:44.340 human rights people, uh, to raise awareness about the plight of, uh, pastors and religious

00:33:51.360 freedom here in Canada.

00:33:52.700 So we did that, but it's all we could do, right?

00:33:56.080 Anyway, thank you for donating to help us do that.

00:33:59.280 That was, um, it was a tough 72 hours.

00:34:01.940 I think I slept like 45 minutes.

00:34:04.900 It was just like, try to get from Edmonton all the way to Geneva, have a shower, wash the

00:34:12.120 airport grime off, uh, go to the United Nations, uh, film Sarah dropping it off, do a quick little

00:34:20.000 interview with Sarah, then go, uh, try to sleep a few hours, but that didn't work because I was

00:34:26.620 on Ezra's show to talk about our work.

00:34:29.780 And then I called some people who were interested in my work while I was there.

00:34:34.460 And then I went and ran around the old part of Geneva, quite literally ran around.

00:34:40.500 But I went for a run to help me with the jet lag.

00:34:42.580 And then I came all the way home.

00:34:44.260 Anyway, thank you for making that possible.

00:34:48.460 Um, but Steve asks a question that I have been seeing a lot of.

00:34:54.500 And so I'm happy to clear things up.

00:34:57.080 Now I keep getting calls from strange phone numbers saying,

00:35:01.000 Ezra Levant and Rebel News asked me to call you for money.

00:35:04.460 Is this a legit call or are they scammers?

00:35:06.900 I've sent Rebel News many emails about this.

00:35:09.280 I'm very sorry.

00:35:09.720 I get, I get a lot of emails about this, but have got no response.

00:35:13.720 Your reply would be greatly appreciated.

00:35:15.320 Take care again.

00:35:16.300 Love your work.

00:35:17.100 See, there's the bottom part of the compliment sandwich with the criticism in the middle.

00:35:23.480 The criticism is the meat.

00:35:24.900 Anyway, uh, love your work and Rebel News, truthful news.

00:35:29.220 So if you are getting, uh, phone calls, uh, yes, those are, um, people who are reaching

00:35:36.220 out to you on behalf of us here at Rebel News, um, because they're, I mean, in the time of

00:35:43.980 Justin Trudeau's immense censorship, um, we want to make sure that we stay connected with

00:35:48.860 you.

00:35:49.220 And if you like the work that we do, you know, we don't take any money from Justin Trudeau.

00:35:54.060 We rely on the support of our viewers at home to keep the lights on, to keep the gun show 0.80

00:35:58.820 going and to, um, help us in what I think is a bit of a ministry, like the real ministry of truth,

00:36:06.960 where the truth is actually the truth and not the lies, um, in, you know, in the story of Orwell.

00:36:13.000 So, um, yes, the, that those are legitimate people calling on behalf of Rebel News to say,

00:36:20.560 hey, if you like us, would you mind helping us to keep going?

00:36:23.840 And so, um, I'm glad that you reached out to me.

00:36:27.680 I'm glad I was able to, um, provide some clarity.

00:36:31.500 I know a lot of people are concerned because that's not something that we normally do.

00:36:35.180 Um, but you know, maybe you don't read all the emails, uh, that we send you.

00:36:42.300 And I understand I don't read all the emails we send me either.

00:36:46.820 So I get it.

00:36:47.820 So some people would rather have a phone call.

00:36:49.960 Sometimes our emails end up in your spam folder.

00:36:53.200 And we just thought maybe we'll try a different way to talk to our, our friends and supporters.

00:36:58.940 So yes, that is us.

00:37:00.380 I'm glad I could answer that question for you, Steve.

00:37:03.040 And thank you for your, uh, kind words about the work that we do here at Rebel News.

00:37:07.000 Without you, Steve, there is no Rebel News.

00:37:09.020 So, um, I appreciate that.

00:37:10.860 And I'm, I'm so also so glad that so many people are so protective of us, uh, that you would

00:37:16.000 reach out and say like, oh my gosh, there are people out there calling me and using your

00:37:21.500 name.

00:37:21.960 Is it you?

00:37:22.580 And, uh, I, uh, that makes me happy that you are so protective of, of what we are and

00:37:27.700 what we do.

00:37:28.660 So thank you for that.

00:37:30.020 Well, everybody, that is the show for tonight.

00:37:32.980 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:37:34.160 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:37:37.280 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:37:41.100 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - October 26, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Trudeau Liberals forced to delay firearms confiscation compensation program

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