Rebel News Podcast - Teck mine cancelled： How this national catastrophe will harm the First Nations who supported it

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're listening to a free audio-only recording of

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00:01:28.840 What did it mean for the people of Fort McMurray, Alberta when tech abruptly cancelled its Frontier

00:01:49.540 oil sands mine? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:53.540 The Czech Frontier oil sands mine was a $21 billion construction project that would employ 7,000

00:02:17.780 people during the construction phase and offer $70 billion in government revenue over the life

00:02:25.060 cycle of the project. The project itself had gone through 10 years of regulatory hell and met every

00:02:33.040 regulatory condition put before it, including the ones that the Liberals implemented when they changed

00:02:39.100 the rules for regulatory approvals halfway through the process. And yet the project has been cancelled by

00:02:45.620 the company. The company cited political uncertainty in Canada and they're not wrong. It's just not a safe

00:02:52.460 place to do business here anymore with the Liberals in charge. But what did the cancellation mean for

00:02:57.980 the people in Fort McMurray who were counting on this project to go forward? Joining me tonight in an

00:03:03.760 interview we recorded yesterday evening is my good friend from Fort McMurray, Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong.

00:03:15.620 Joining me now from his hotel in Calgary is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong. Hey Robbie, thanks for

00:03:33.500 joining me now. I haven't talked to you since the Tech Frontier Oil Sands mine was cancelled. You're from Fort McMurray. Tell me what the

00:03:42.780 cancellation of this project means for your community and particularly the Indigenous communities who

00:03:49.900 signed on to support this project.

00:03:51.780 Honestly, I have seen many ups and downs living in Fort McMurray for as long as I have and I've never seen

00:04:01.420 more disappointment and devastation on the faces of all my friends, all the business owners I know.

00:04:07.180 You know, the Tech project in particular was very special because Tech went out of their way to do

00:04:14.140 consultation like no other industry partner has done before. And this was going on for, you know, around

00:04:22.220 like 13 years. I mean, it was a big, long process that it had unanimous support from all the Indigenous groups

00:04:30.140 and it was lifting the spirits of the community. It is, people, you can't even coin a phrase for how

00:04:37.820 devastating it was. Not that it was a real shocker to me, but in a way I had a feeling it wasn't going

00:04:43.820 to happen. But I also know deep down how much it meant to everybody in the community. And it was,

00:04:51.820 it's been a wake-up call. It's really, really bad. The worst of it was like these so-called

00:04:59.660 environmentalists were immediately gloating about it. And it just goes to show you that they do not

00:05:04.700 really care about Indigenous rights because if the Indigenous group supports a project, they will turn 0.96

00:05:11.580 on them in a second. And I think they realize that now. It's unfortunate it's too little too late.

00:05:16.220 But, you know, it's not good. It was, it's bad. And it sets the tone. We're hoping not for the future,

00:05:24.380 but we're hoping this is not the new normal. But yeah, it's not good.

00:05:29.180 Yeah. When I was in Madrid for the UN Climate Change Conference, I saw Sappora Berman and her fellow

00:05:37.820 radical environmentalist cohorts there protesting the tech frontier mine when it was

00:05:44.140 still a go before it was canceled. And she had with her these groups of Indigenous people who were

00:05:52.220 pretty clearly from the West Coast, just based on their traditional garb. They weren't from Fort

00:05:58.460 McMurray. But Sappora Berman was happy to bring these folks to Madrid, stick them in front of

00:06:05.740 international cameras, and make it seem like Indigenous rights were being trampled on by this

00:06:11.740 frontier mine when that couldn't be further from the truth. And in fact, everybody keeps talking about

00:06:18.540 reconciliation, reconciliation, you know, participation of First Nations in the economy.

00:06:25.020 That's what tech was. That was really how these projects should go forward. And yet we had people

00:06:34.220 co-opting Indigenous voices to make it seem like First Nations were against this project when

00:06:42.460 it's pretty clear that they weren't. Right on the very day that the project was canceled,

00:06:47.740 the Alberta government reached two more agreements with Indigenous groups that were sort of peripherally

00:06:53.020 affected by it. I think everybody was blindsided by this.

00:06:56.460 Well, I think Sappora Berman's true colors have come out. We know that she will play victim when

00:07:04.860 she needs to play victim. She'll be aggressive when she needs to be aggressive. And she never came to 1.00

00:07:11.020 the tech hearing because we had many protests against her there. And I recall the tech hearing,

00:07:16.540 and I recall hearing how excited every Indigenous group in Fort McMurray was. And if Sappora Berman cannot

00:07:25.260 get what she wants from them, she'll just find a different Indigenous group to team up with. I mean, 0.91

00:07:30.380 that's very insincere. I mean, even, you know, Chief Alan Adams supported the project. All of them

00:07:36.460 supported the project. I mean, it might have been some last minute stuff going on with the government,

00:07:40.700 but overall it had consensus and it wasn't just consensus. They felt like it was part,

00:07:45.420 the Métis particularly, like they were just so looking forward to this because they've been left out of

00:07:49.740 so many deals. And it was hope. It was hope for the youth. I've never seen anything like it.

00:07:56.060 Everybody wanted tech. And there was very, in fact, I never heard of a single group that had

00:08:01.980 anything bad to say about it. You're never going to have everything perfect, but tech was as close

00:08:06.860 to perfect as it could be. And I mean, the fact that you know, Sappora Berman's gloating about it just

00:08:13.420 shows you how up to she really is. And no, I, I don't have a lot of respect for her or any of them

00:08:20.940 because they, their true colors are coming out. They want to stop, they want to shut Canada down.

00:08:26.220 And when they say shut Canada, they shut everyone down, including all of the Indigenous, you know,

00:08:31.260 Indigenous groups that support these projects. If it's BCLNG with the Coastal Gas Link or

00:08:37.180 Tech in Fort McMurray or the Trans Mountain Pipeline, they're going to do everything they can to stand in

00:08:42.060 the way of our progress. And for what end? Let's say, well, I mean, they are successfully

00:08:46.700 winning right now. They're stopping everything. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin's like, you know what,

00:08:50.780 here's $189 billion. We're going to build a natural gas plant, not to mention, we're going to

00:08:56.380 build a big highway and a pipeline to China. But we sit here, I mean, we always talk about what the

00:09:02.300 world is going to look 20 years from now. Well, what are we going to look like 20 years from now,

00:09:06.940 if Russia and China and Saudi Arabia have such a hold of the market? Because we know that oil is not

00:09:13.820 going anywhere. The needle is natural gas. Natural gas is actually making the world better.

00:09:18.620 But we are for some reason going to stop developing our natural resources,

00:09:24.460 stop investing in our Indigenous youth. So support a Berman conversion signal is disgusting. 1.00

00:09:30.380 Yeah, you know, that's really a great point. While Canada is basically shutting itself down,

00:09:40.060 because that's really what's happening here. These projects could be going forward,

00:09:44.380 if we had a government with a will to deal with these issues, and to just say, no,

00:09:51.260 tech has met all the regulations. We even changed the regulations on tech along the way. They still

00:09:56.940 managed to meet them. They did everything right. And they still can't get a project built. The

00:10:04.300 message to the rest of the world is that Canada is not open for business. Don't even bother. And when

00:10:12.860 you see what's happening in the United States, they're having a renaissance in their oil and gas

00:10:17.660 industry. You know, when you look at the unemployment rates in West Texas, I mean, it's something that

00:10:23.100 as Canadians we can only dream about. You pointed out that Russia's building, Australia is even

00:10:31.260 exporting LNG. And where are we? We're just on the sidelines while the rest of the world is eating

00:10:37.580 our lunch. And we're the best in the world at this. There are so many Canadian expats working in Russia,

00:10:44.060 working in Australia, working all over the world, taking our expertise there to make other economies

00:10:49.900 richer while we get poorer at home. I think we also got to really look at like, I mean,

00:10:58.060 let's just say, you know, Justin Trudeau gets defeated, and then you have a conservative

00:11:03.020 government in there. What are the long term unintended consequences that we're going to

00:11:07.180 suffer no matter who's in government now because of such piss poor policy? I mean, it's, I saw a

00:11:14.700 picture of this guy was walking this kid in a stroller too close to the tracks, he got a ticket.

00:11:19.420 And meanwhile, you've got people lighting, like lighting crates on fire and trying to derail trains.

00:11:25.660 And they're like, well, you know, it's like throwing a snowball at a train. Like, I don't,

00:11:30.140 I've never had a problem trying to be supportive of different governments that are in power at

00:11:36.860 different times. But it's just something that I've never seen before. It's like watching the

00:11:43.820 twilight zone. We, we're in a weird position now because we're letting lawlessness become

00:11:52.460 the normal and special privileges. I mean, this John Critchamp, he was prime minister,

00:11:59.820 he would have stopped these blockades, even if he had to go and get the show and get handy or

00:12:03.820 handshake. He would have done something. I would argue that, that Pierre Elliott Trudeau would have

00:12:09.260 done something he would have called the army. I don't know where Justin Trudeau's head is at,

00:12:13.740 because I've never seen such weakness in a leader before. It's, it's like, he's not all there.

00:12:20.940 I don't know if it's weakness. Some people are saying it's weakness and, and I, uh, I could be

00:12:27.340 convinced of that. I think this is all by design. I think that he has wanted to phase out oil and gas

00:12:32.700 from the very beginning. And this is just a means to an end. He doesn't actually have to do the phasing

00:12:38.940 out. He's done his best to do some phasing out through the carbon tax, through increased regulations,

00:12:44.300 through, uh, you know, C 69 and C 48, but he's letting the activists do the phasing out for him.

00:12:52.220 And he's just not enforcing the law. And, uh, that might be the easiest way politically for somebody

00:12:58.140 quite as lazy as him. Um, I wanted to, now you did mention the rail blockades and I think that's a great

00:13:03.900 segue into what I wanted to talk to you about next. Um, the rail blockades in, uh, support of what,

00:13:12.460 you know, the mainstream media will say the Wet'suwet'en people, but it's really not. Um,

00:13:17.820 it's actually rail blockades are disenfranchising the elected band council of the Wet'suwet'en people

00:13:24.860 in favor of, I think it's five of eight hereditary chiefs. And it seems as though some of these

00:13:30.940 hereditary chiefs are not even legitimate because the pro, um, oil and gas hereditary chiefs were

00:13:38.140 stripped of their titles and they were, it's a matriarchal system and it was given to men. And 1.00

00:13:45.020 so now Justin Trudeau's, um, feminist government is negotiating with these illegitimate hereditary 0.98

00:13:53.500 chiefs who basically stole their titles from women. I, what's happening right now is so astounding.

00:14:00.780 Please give me your take on the rail blockades.

00:14:04.140 I think you have a group of, uh, group of indigenous people that for a long time

00:14:09.420 have had suffered and they've, they've been in poverty. They don't quite

00:14:13.420 grasp the business around them. And when they make a deal, that's going to benefit them. And

00:14:18.300 they're going to benefit for their generations and their children and all that. Um, they want this

00:14:23.820 and the vast majority of them do, and they voted for it and they support it. And then there's this

00:14:28.220 aspect of, uh, I can't really coin a phrase for it, but it's like a certain level of bullying that,

00:14:36.780 that that's going on that if it was in any other aspect of society, be considered wrong and frowned

00:14:42.780 upon. Um, you can't, you can't run a country like this. It's, it's like preschool. It's embarrassing.

00:14:51.500 The vast majority of indigenous people support these, uh, this pipeline, they support the coastal 0.98

00:14:57.100 gas link. They want the project. They, they acknowledge the project's going to benefit them.

00:15:02.540 And then you might have one or two fractions that don't support it, but the ones that don't

00:15:07.740 support it are being heavily manipulated by these so-called environmentalists and they're being used

00:15:13.180 as political props viciously. I mean, they're like, I mean, I've never seen anything like it.

00:15:19.420 They don't care about what happens to them when this, when this is over the long-term negative

00:15:25.740 effects. And it's going to be big, but it's, it's embarrassing. And if we as a country don't

00:15:31.660 get a grip on this soon, um, I don't know what's going to happen to us. Like I, I know that, um,

00:15:37.900 this wouldn't be happening in Donald Trump's America right now. It wouldn't be happening

00:15:42.220 anywhere, but for some reason we're, I mean, maybe this is Justin Trudeau's design or Gerald

00:15:48.460 Butz's design. I'm not entirely sure, but it's, it's embarrassing that we can't seem to get a project

00:15:55.020 done. Yeah. You know, you make a good point when you bring up Donald Trump after Donald Trump was

00:16:01.580 elected after what felt like years of protests with the Dakota access pipeline project. I mean,

00:16:08.700 and it was, it was massive protests. These, uh, from all across the country, these environmentalists

00:16:15.580 just converged on, um, indigenous land and set up basically hobo camps, um, with broken down cars.

00:16:25.340 Um, and one, and Obama seemed to let it go on forever. Once Donald Trump came into power,

00:16:31.340 he signed the pipeline into life, sent in the army Corps of engineers, cleaned up the mess,

00:16:36.060 cleaned up the abandoned cars, rounded up the abandoned dogs. And I think between 90 and 120

00:16:41.420 days that pipeline was pumping. And then you see in Canada tech has to go through 10 years of

00:16:48.060 regulatory hell just to end up having to cancel because of the political climate in Canada.

00:16:55.580 Again, it goes back to that issue of why would anybody in their right mind ever invest in Canada

00:17:01.340 when just to the south of us, sometimes sharing the exact same oil field in the case of the Bakken,

00:17:07.820 why would anybody do business here? I, it doesn't make any sense.

00:17:12.220 And I think what we've talked about is now becoming reality. Little by little, you're seeing,

00:17:17.980 you know, they're succeeding their planet. I mean, let's make no mistake about it. If they succeed and,

00:17:23.500 you know, they severely damage our natural resources, we're not recovering from that. And

00:17:29.260 there's not going to be new green jobs popping up everywhere. Elizabeth May is going to be the CEO

00:17:34.300 of some solar panel company. Support Berman will be out there, you know, like, it's not going to happen.

00:17:40.540 We'll be in severe financial trouble. And it will, we will discover what it's like to face

00:17:47.260 generational poverty. Or we can say, you know what, as Canadians, as indigenous people, as

00:17:54.300 as just basic common sense. If we apply basic common sense to humanity, we can say no, Berman, no,

00:18:05.660 Greta, you're not going to come here and bully us and tell us what to do. And get a couple pipelines 1.00

00:18:11.260 built, get our resources to market, develop it in a sustainable way, and continuously improve on it.

00:18:16.460 And that said, there's no such thing as green energy. Every type of energy requires some sort

00:18:22.460 of cost. Batteries have tailings because of the rare earth minerals, nickel, everything.

00:18:28.620 So Canada really should just be the center of all good things energy and stop this ridiculous fight

00:18:35.420 that we're doing. Because we're losing fighting ourselves and the rest of the world, other countries

00:18:42.380 are competitors are winning. It's going to benefit Russia, it's benefiting the states, it's benefiting, 0.74

00:18:47.260 and they're laughing at us. They look at us like we're just losers. They know that we have more 0.97

00:18:51.420 resources than all of them. We're the third largest proven oil resource in the world. That's just

00:18:55.660 proven. We're not talking about what's in Saskatchewan and we have uranium, we have everything.

00:19:00.140 And what are we doing? We're sitting here fighting about it and allowing special interest groups

00:19:04.940 to ruin it. And, you know, it's embarrassing that it's at this point, it's embarrassing

00:19:12.380 that we're being duped. And, and I just hope we will wake up. I mean, people in Fort McMurray

00:19:18.700 just woke up about tech. I mean, they're all like, wow. And I'm like, well, great, you guys want tech

00:19:23.660 now. Too late. I mean, nothing's just gonna like, you have to fight for what you believe in. You can't

00:19:29.500 just expect it to show up and, and take it for granted. And I think that we've done that as a country

00:19:35.100 for too long. And, and I think we've been a bit protected. But when you have, when you have people

00:19:40.700 influencing, um, public policy in the prime minister's office and tanker bans that are not

00:19:47.420 necessary, um, extra regulation to stop pipelines like the Energy East. I mean, I, I mean, if the

00:19:53.980 end goal is to ruin Alberta, well, they're, they're almost there. I wanted to ask you, what message does

00:20:00.380 it send to indigenous people when Trudeau deploys a minister to meet with the hereditary chiefs that

00:20:11.100 some of one of which for sure is illegitimate, um, over sending a minister to meet with the wet sweat

00:20:20.220 elected band council. For me, I think it sends a message that, um, lawlessness is now the way of the

00:20:29.100 land here. And that what indigenous people, what they vote for really doesn't matter because Trudeau

00:20:36.540 was going to pick what they want. Well, like I remember many years ago, there was a chief by the

00:20:44.940 name of Teresa Spence, and she was on a fake hunger strike. And she's the only person in history to

00:20:49.900 actually gain, uh, weight on a hunger strike. And she was staying at a five-star hotel. And, uh,

00:20:56.540 anyway, turns out the whole thing was because her boyfriend at the time was getting $900 a day from

00:21:01.660 the band for his county services. So I think that the elected chiefs, um, have spoken, they've all

00:21:12.380 voted. The vast majority have supported it. You have to go with that. And I'm like, I don't know what his

00:21:19.980 game plan here is, but if we have this for our society going forward, that, that we can't trust

00:21:27.100 the leadership with these indigenous communities to make their own decisions, which they clearly did.

00:21:31.980 And we're going to act as if people like Sephora Berman can speak on their behalf because she

00:21:35.820 doesn't agree with what they've just did. Well, then we will never get anything done as a country.

00:21:40.780 And we were going to take many steps backwards before we take anything forward.

00:21:44.140 Yeah. It feels like it's environmental colonialism. Um, and I'm, I'm old enough to remember when the

00:21:51.740 radical left was against colonialism. I wanted to ask for your prediction. Do you think coastal

00:21:57.100 gas link is going to go forward?

00:21:58.860 Well, I do think so because, um, I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't want to bet on it, but

00:22:07.740 Horgan supports it. Trudeau supports it. Everyone supports it. It's got the most indigenous support

00:22:13.820 that I've ever seen. Um, it benefits, um, all the indigenous people in British Columbia in a way

00:22:20.300 that I've never seen. Um, when I was in Prince George, like I, I would argue that it's more, it's

00:22:26.620 more impressive than Fort McMurray. And here's why it's that, uh, Fort McMurray, like, I mean,

00:22:33.100 there's the, it's the poster child for what reconciliation for indigenous people needs to

00:22:40.140 be. Like, I mean, the vast majority of companies now are owned by indigenous people and the white 1.00

00:22:45.740 people are working for them trying to get on with it. It's completely, it's a total success.

00:22:49.980 Um, you don't see racism in Fort McMurray that often. In fact, um, when you have business

00:22:55.820 that is like Nicole Boucher or Doug Glosky or Dave Tucker, you find like they're mentors to

00:23:01.260 everybody. And you don't, I mean, you don't, you don't see it in BC in places. You see a little bit

00:23:07.420 of, of that. So here's my point. My point is that when I was at, you know, Prince George and I saw them

00:23:13.500 talking and they weren't talking about having a multimillion dollar company. They were saying,

00:23:17.500 well, I'm going to get a job and maybe I can get a house. And they were tearing up and it was so

00:23:23.260 emotional to see what they were getting. And in Fort McMurray, it's a different animal,

00:23:28.380 but this was just real. And it's like this, you know, I can feed my kids and I'm going to have a

00:23:33.580 pride and a job. Maybe I'll get a truck and I'm going to earn my truck and Berman and Hedema and

00:23:39.580 those losers are going to take that from them for what, for what they've already ruined their, 1.00

00:23:44.060 like their traditional way of life with, you know, the fur trade. So what are they trying to do? 0.84

00:23:48.300 Like, it's just, it's sick. It's absolutely sick. And

00:23:56.060 the environmentalists are far worse than the oil companies. I'm not saying that oil companies are

00:24:00.700 always perfect, but what I will argue is that oil companies there, there's, there's benefit

00:24:05.180 agreements and they try, I know most of the people involved in that, they try, they want to be

00:24:09.500 successful. They want to make sure that these deals have benefits. They actually have training in that.

00:24:14.700 Environmentalists. I mean, just get a bunch of losers from Hastings and you put them onto a, 0.87

00:24:19.420 put them onto a side of a road. And then, you know, like that, that's not, 0.81

00:24:23.100 it's not, it's not real. It's not authentic.

00:24:28.700 Yeah, it's, it's just so sad to see that these folks who just want a future are going to be robbed

00:24:38.620 of their dignity by a bunch of rich foreign funded a-holes. I mean, it's just, it, it makes me sad

00:24:46.060 and sick as a Canadian. Robbie, I want to give you a chance to tell people where they can find you 1.00

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00:25:47.740 You're going to get it now. Um, we, I just spent a ton of cash and the order's coming in. Um,

00:25:52.860 we've got a team together and, um, we are going to be going into places like Ontario,

00:25:58.540 British Columbia, and I'm going to be connecting with regular people that want to talk about these

00:26:04.140 issues that are facing candidates. I am going to step up. Um, I've taken a little time. I'm

00:26:08.940 going to try to find another Jane Fonda moment, but I can't sit back and let this happen. I mean,

00:26:15.500 I was talking to, you know, like there's all this controversy about Greta right now.

00:26:19.180 And I was really thinking about this today because there's another version of Greta. You 0.86

00:26:24.620 have the concern of Greta now coming out and there's like, there's these two clashing things.

00:26:28.780 And I'm like, what a world we're in right now where we have both sides in being influenced by

00:26:38.780 children. And we're like, well, we have a Greta, we have this and we have that. Bottom line is

00:26:43.900 Greta Thunberg has a lot of influence, a lot. And whether we like it or not, every time she cries

00:26:49.900 on TV with her nonsense, uh, she does. And bottom line is if she succeeds and your family loses their

00:26:57.180 jobs and can't feed the breadwinner, cannot feed the family and put their kids through college,

00:27:03.420 that's what will hit. So we need to stop acting like Greta's or they don't have reach or they don't

00:27:08.860 have impact. They do. And when we sit back, one of my favorite moments is when I confronted Jane

00:27:13.980 Fonda, you notice that like they're, they're protesting tech, not in Fort McMurray. They're

00:27:18.460 in Washington protesting tech. They won't come back to Fort McMurray because if they do,

00:27:23.900 I will kick up a massive stink. And they know that they know that I will find where they are

00:27:28.060 and I'll track them down. Greta, I decided not to, and I'm not sure if that's good or bad,

00:27:33.500 if I'm going to regret that decision when she was in Fort McMurray, I kind of let it be.

00:27:37.020 Bottom line is Greta has hundreds and millions of people who look at what she does. 1.00

00:27:41.020 And if she tells our story and she says that these pipelines are bad and tech is bad, um,

00:27:48.620 we're the ones that will suffer. We're the ones that are going to go without because

00:27:52.620 we don't stand up. So I, I have been doing this for a while and I've had some good success. I've had

00:27:57.980 some struggles as well, but it's time to really step up. I believe we do have a future. I think

00:28:03.820 there's a chance of getting trans mountain sun court might be doing some stuff. You know,

00:28:08.140 we can't let this bring us down, but we also have to stop having Stockholm syndrome

00:28:13.020 and assume that the rest of the world thinks we're as great as we think we are because Russia doesn't 0.98

00:28:17.900 care. Russia could care less like neither to the States. So we like, if we shut our industry down, 0.67

00:28:24.860 we're just destroying the lives of our people that are here. And there is not going to be some giant 0.73

00:28:30.060 green bus coming with all these green jobs. Elizabeth May is the CEO. It's not going to happen. 0.90

00:28:35.740 So if you care about your mortgage and you care about your kids and you care about your future

00:28:39.900 or your job and that, then fight back. Don't let them destroy everything you believe in. And it's

00:28:46.380 hard because like, it's hard. It's hard because they're on a different, what these guys are willing

00:28:50.860 to do clearly, it makes no sense. A person that has a job and a mortgage and responsibilities,

00:28:58.380 they've got something to lose. The people that are just like, you know, these upper middle class,

00:29:04.540 stuck up rich kids that feel that they need to have like a cause. Well, they don't have like their

00:29:10.140 parents, like they're, they don't have anything to lose. And then if they're picking, I know they pay

00:29:14.460 people to protest. I've been researching this too. A lot of, when you, when you like, when Kean

00:29:19.100 interviewed them and they don't even know what's going through the pipeline, right? Well, that shows

00:29:22.700 how stupid they are. They're not there because they care. They're there because they're getting 1.00

00:29:27.020 paid to be there or they're because it's cool, but they're very uninformed. Well, if we're going to let

00:29:31.820 a bunch of uninformed losers that don't understand the difference between the natural gas pipeline and 1.00

00:29:37.340 the bitumen pipeline determine our futures, well, then we're stupid. So we have to step up. So my plan 1.00

00:29:43.340 and the next bit here is to really step up and get back at it. Um, and it's not easy. Like,

00:29:48.140 I mean, I have a business and I've got responsibilities too, so it's hard, but we

00:29:52.140 have to, and we have to get rid of the Stockholm syndrome and we have to fight back and we have

00:29:57.180 to fight back hard and we have to fight back like we care and we actually value because we do care.

00:30:01.740 We do like in Fort McMurray, when the Métis were the worst hit by this, not, not, not Fort,

00:30:07.980 not, not the ACFN, not Fort Mackay, the Métis. They were hit so hard by tech because tech was

00:30:14.940 finally recognizing the Métis. The first nations always get first all the time, the Métis, not so 0.99

00:30:21.500 much. And they were recognizing the Métis. So boom, they finally have hope, jobs, futures, 0.59

00:30:28.620 you know, everybody was excited and then just gone like that. I can't sit back and let that happen

00:30:34.300 again. Like we can't, we have to try and fight and we, we can't just assume that tech is just

00:30:39.660 going to, you know, what, what tech is under a constant attack, constant attack. Bear in mind

00:30:44.860 the intelligence behind the, I mean, as much as I, I, I, I, I take credit for them not coming to Fort

00:30:49.340 McMurray. I, I just thought of this when they're in Washington. Do you think tech loves it when Jane

00:30:54.140 Fonda's saying shut them down or Martin Sheen or Susan Sarandon standing their back? Because tech is

00:31:00.780 bigger than just Fort McMurray. Tech has interests everywhere. So we have to say no,

00:31:07.180 Susan Sarandon or Martin Sheen. I mean, what the hell does Martin Sheen know about anything to do

00:31:12.380 in Fort McMurray? I mean, seriously, we have to say, no, we're going to tell our story. And we have

00:31:19.020 to jump in and take those opportunities because Naomi Klein and Laura Berman and all those guys,

00:31:24.380 and when they were on in Washington, they're telling our story. They bring some indigenous people,

00:31:29.100 not even from Fort McMurray to, to, to their act as if they speak on behalf of everybody,

00:31:33.900 which is total BS.

00:31:36.780 Ravi, I want to thank you so much for taking the time today. I know you're traveling for work.

00:31:41.180 And I want to thank you for telling our stories and not, not allowing our Alberta voices and in

00:31:50.380 your case, indigenous voices to be co-opted by a bunch of rich white liberals with no liability in

00:31:57.020 this cause. Whatever decisions come down about oil sands projects, it really doesn't affect them,

00:32:02.860 but it really hurts people like those in Fort McMurray and really all across Canada, but in

00:32:08.540 particular, the West. Robbie, please come back on the show very soon. We leave this too long

00:32:14.700 in between your appearances on the show and best of luck in your future ventures.

00:32:17.900 Thank you so much.

00:32:27.180 Foreign funded environmentalist activists are robbing generations of Canadian indigenous people

00:32:33.740 of the dignity of work, the dignity of home ownership, the dignity of entrepreneurship,

00:32:38.780 and the dignity of independence. Generational poverty will be the death of some of these communities and

00:32:45.420 the loss of some of these cultures. It's inevitable. Like Robbie said, the foreign funded actors who are 1.00

00:32:52.140 blocking Canadian oil and gas development do not truly care about indigenous people or, for that

00:32:58.140 matter, indigenous rights. Foreign funded actors are exploiters of indigenous people. They don't care 0.98

00:33:04.140 about the damage they are doing. For them, it's all a means to an end.

00:33:08.700 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much, as always, for tuning in.

00:33:13.100 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:33:16.860 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:33:29.420 One month.

00:33:43.260 Two months.

00:33:44.620 Seven months.

00:33:47.820 Two months.

00:33:50.380 Two months.

00:33:53.260 Seven months.

Rebel News Podcast - March 05, 2020

Teck mine cancelled： How this national catastrophe will harm the First Nations who supported it

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