Rebel News Podcast - Thanks to Trudeau's carbon tax, Canadian airlines will stop flying to smaller cities

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Canadian airlines say they'll have to stop flying to smaller cities

00:00:03.780 when Trudeau's carbon tax takes effect.

00:00:06.360 It's October 19, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:14.880 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:18.680 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.420 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.400 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:00:29.360 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:36.400 Pretty obvious headline in the Globe and Mail.

00:00:39.160 Zero surprise to me, at least.

00:00:41.860 Ottawa's carbon tax will send more passengers to U.S. carriers, Canadian airlines warn.

00:00:48.440 That headline doesn't actually list the worst part, in my opinion.

00:00:51.960 Here, let me read a bit.

00:00:53.940 Canada's airlines are warning Ottawa's planned carbon tax will increase airfares,

00:00:57.980 reduce flights on marginal domestic routes, and drive passengers to nearby American airports.

00:01:04.300 The article quotes from a spokesman for the airline industry group.

00:01:07.760 His name is Massimo Bergamini, and he says,

00:01:10.020 The tax will not only drive up airfares, but could force airlines to cut service on routes

00:01:16.020 that are already losing money or are only marginally profitable.

00:01:19.840 It would also encourage travelers from cities close to the border to find cheaper U.S. flights.

00:01:25.100 A $50 per ton levy on carbon emissions would cost the industry roughly a billion dollars in 2022,

00:01:32.500 according to a study done for the Council.

00:01:34.240 The airline council represents Air Canada, WestJet, Air Transit, and Jazz.

00:01:39.680 By the way, those airlines combined don't earn a billion dollars a year, just in case you're checking.

00:01:44.200 The airline industry is a very tough business.

00:01:46.560 I mean, you know that given how many little airlines start and then fail in Canada.

00:01:50.500 It's such a thin margins business.

00:01:52.240 It's the first thing to be hit in any economic downturn.

00:01:55.340 Businesses fly less, business people fly less, people vacation less.

00:01:59.880 And all the little regulations airlines are hit with.

00:02:03.640 And Canada's biggest airport, Pearson, is famous for some of the highest landing fees

00:02:09.200 the airlines have to pay in the world, actually.

00:02:12.080 As in, airlines have to pay enormous fees just for the privilege of flying to Toronto.

00:02:17.020 So there's so many things, so many taxes.

00:02:19.500 What a terrible business to be in, other than for the love of flying.

00:02:23.220 And this carbon tax is just going to kill it off.

00:02:26.300 At least the routes that are iffy right now, you heard the man.

00:02:28.800 Smaller cities, routes that aren't quite full.

00:02:32.280 One more line from the airlines, let me quote.

00:02:35.540 Fuel represents either the largest or the second largest cost for airlines.

00:02:40.460 And Mr. Bergamini said his members have been investing heavily in more fuel-efficient aircraft.

00:02:45.420 Between 2005 and 2016, the industry cuts its fuel for each kilometer flown on domestic flights by 15.6%.

00:02:52.280 Wow, I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

00:02:55.820 I mean, newer fleets of aircraft are more efficient.

00:02:58.580 But the Global Mail found a pro-carbon tax lobby group.

00:03:02.740 There really are those, actually just quite a few of them, to cheer on the higher taxes for airfare.

00:03:09.300 It's Preston Manning's group, I'm so embarrassed to say, called the Eco-Fiscal Commission.

00:03:14.260 Seriously, can you imagine?

00:03:15.380 The founder of the Reform Party, who fought against the Kyoto Protocol, is part of this carbon tax push?

00:03:21.220 Here, let me quote.

00:03:22.960 But it is not clear airlines deserve any special treatment because of competitiveness, conserves, says Dale Bougin,

00:03:30.340 executive director of the Eco-Fiscal Commission, a think tank that works on pricing pollution.

00:03:36.200 I think it is quite likely they will just be able to pass along their costs to the consumers, Mr. Bougin said.

00:03:42.040 So, yes, flights might cost more, but I don't see them losing market share to international competitors.

00:03:47.960 Really.

00:03:48.780 Please pass on the cost, yeah.

00:03:50.800 Dale Bougin is with that pro-carbon tax lobby group.

00:03:54.840 He doesn't know anything about airlines or business, really, at all.

00:03:59.260 But he actually has an academic degree that touches on economics.

00:04:03.840 Surely he would know or have heard about the concept of the elasticity of demand.

00:04:08.820 That's a fancy way of saying if the price of something goes up, you're going to buy less of it.

00:04:14.400 Just an example, if a flight to Mexico for a holiday is $1,000, maybe 100 people will buy a ticket on that plane.

00:04:20.040 But if you jack the price up to $1,500, maybe only 50 people would buy that ticket.

00:04:25.760 It certainly wouldn't be the same number because you don't want that flight to Mexico that badly.

00:04:31.400 That might mean the whole flight is no longer economic, though.

00:04:34.540 So the whole thing would just be canceled.

00:04:36.060 Now, that's one thing when it's a holiday flight to Mexico.

00:04:39.720 Not that important, but how about when it's a flight to a small Canadian city that barely makes sense for any airline to fly into it now?

00:04:47.400 There are some things for which there is very little elasticity in demand.

00:04:51.420 Carbon-based fuels are actually one of them.

00:04:53.340 I mean, you have to fill up your car to get to work, to drive the kids to school,

00:04:56.820 especially if you're in a place without public transit like the country.

00:04:59.340 But flights are not immune to this.

00:05:03.600 I mean, people will just take a vacation closer to home.

00:05:06.360 They'll drive instead of fly.

00:05:08.620 Business people will use Skype or just talk on the phone instead of flying.

00:05:14.200 Airlines are going to be hit hard.

00:05:16.400 Dale Bougian doesn't care.

00:05:18.180 He works for a lobby group, not a real company with real customers.

00:05:21.820 His hubris, oh, just pass it on to the consumers.

00:05:24.620 They'll pay anything.

00:05:25.800 They always do.

00:05:27.400 That drips of the elitism that all carbon tax proponents seem to have.

00:05:30.600 But his second comment, the Canadian airlines won't lose customers to foreign airlines, it's just wrong.

00:05:36.140 Already many budget-conscious Canadians just drive down from Toronto to Buffalo, New York,

00:05:42.040 or drive down from Vancouver to Washington State, whether it's to Bellingham or all the way down to Seattle.

00:05:47.380 You can save hundreds of dollars on flights.

00:05:50.460 Wouldn't you drive two or three hours to save hundreds of dollars, especially if your whole family was traveling?

00:05:57.180 But that only works with flights to the U.S. or to foreign places, right?

00:06:02.080 You're not going to drive down to Buffalo if you want to get to London, Ontario, or Whitehorse, or whatever.

00:06:07.980 They'll just shut those Canadian routes down because there are no American competitors.

00:06:12.160 This is not a hypothetical situation.

00:06:13.740 Rachel Notley announced her provincial carbon tax, and surprise, Greyhound bus lines pulled the plug on so many of their routes in Western Canada.

00:06:23.880 They were having a tough time as it was.

00:06:25.640 I mean, people weren't taking the bus as much, but this was just the final straw.

00:06:28.980 Let me quote.

00:06:29.400 Quote, declining ridership is the primary culprit, said Kendrick, who called that an increasing costs, an ongoing spiral that's making it impossible for the company to continue operations.

00:06:41.040 Well, what costs are increasing?

00:06:42.800 Well, fuel just went up with their carbon tax, didn't they?

00:06:45.360 So more than 400 people are out of work now at Greyhound, and low-budget travelers are stuck.

00:06:51.100 It's not only because of carbon taxes, it's from competition, from other means of transportation, but this is what carbon taxes do.

00:06:58.660 In fact, sort of the whole point of a carbon tax, the whole point, isn't it, is to make people change their behavior.

00:07:06.180 As with Justin True and Catherine McKenna, and the whole lot of them they always say,

00:07:10.900 it's Stéphane Dion's green shift, punish the use of carbon-based fuels so people will stop using them.

00:07:16.880 Well, Greyhound stopped using them, mission accomplished, guys.

00:07:20.160 And it forced its low-income people to stop traveling at all, mission accomplished, maybe they can bicycle. 0.99

00:07:26.540 So I guess that carbon tax lobbyist from Preston Manning's group is wrong.

00:07:31.500 I mean, you just can't always pass on the cost to people, especially if they're poor people,

00:07:36.300 and especially aboriginal poor people who often use Greyhound.

00:07:40.420 Just pass on the cost to the customers, just do it.

00:07:43.720 Those no-not-thanks.

00:07:46.220 You know, the arrogance there.

00:07:47.640 But it's being abetted by journalists.

00:07:49.160 I want to do one more thing today.

00:07:50.300 I want to take you through a 71-second TV clip of Catherine McKenna in question periods.

00:07:56.040 Just 71 seconds.

00:07:57.840 But I have never seen so many stupid ideas jammed into 71 seconds before.

00:08:02.080 You could fill a book with it, but she did it in 71 seconds. 1.00

00:08:04.520 That's got to be a record.

00:08:05.760 I'm going to play the video, and then I'm going to play it again and stop a few times because it's so nuts.

00:08:10.340 But like Dale Boujiam, no one in the media ever pushes back with basic questions calling the bluff here.

00:08:18.180 It's this video that she said in Parliament.

00:08:20.540 Take a look.

00:08:21.680 Let me read the intro first.

00:08:24.480 Her tweet says,

00:08:26.320 From forest fires in British Columbia to heatwaves in Ontario and Quebec to floods in New Brunswick,

00:08:31.360 Canadians know there's a real cost to climate change.

00:08:34.740 If we do not take action now, the cost is only going to grow.

00:08:38.020 So let's work together and get to it.

00:08:40.700 Hey, guys.

00:08:41.260 Now, that's just a lie.

00:08:44.060 I'm sorry.

00:08:44.560 Police say those forest fires she blames on global warming.

00:08:48.720 Police say that at least 29 of those fires in British Columbia were caused by arson,

00:08:55.060 not by the global warming ferry.

00:08:58.960 That's public news.

00:09:00.020 This is not a secret I've just shown you.

00:09:02.140 But Catherine McKenna, despite that news, lies.

00:09:05.320 I'm sure it's a lie to blame, I don't know, you because you used gas, you rode a bus, you flew a plane.

00:09:13.040 I think it's called lying when you say something that you know is false.

00:09:17.300 But that's the least of it.

00:09:18.660 Here, watch the clip.

00:09:19.900 We have a plan and we're implementing it.

00:09:22.460 We have a plan to tackle climate change, to reduce our emissions, to create good jobs, to grow our economy.

00:09:28.720 The sad thing is the party opposite doesn't get it.

00:09:31.620 They don't understand that there is a huge cost of climate change.

00:09:35.680 People that are facing extreme heat, people died this summer because of extreme heat in Quebec and Ontario.

00:09:42.040 We had forest fires.

00:09:43.200 I've had to call ranchers who've lost their whole ranch because it's burned down.

00:09:48.760 I've helped sandbag because there have been floods that have impacted people's homes.

00:09:54.260 This is a huge cost and the cost is only going to grow if we don't take action.

00:09:58.460 But they also don't understand the economic opportunity in the trillions of dollars.

00:10:03.520 If we are smart about this, we can be the country that is providing the clean solutions.

00:10:08.960 We are helping businesses save money because guess what?

00:10:11.500 When you're energy efficient, you save money.

00:10:13.800 And you know what you can do with that money?

00:10:15.560 Reinvest it in your business.

00:10:17.200 We want to work with Canadians.

00:10:18.920 As I said, we can be smarter.

00:10:20.460 We did not get out of the Stone Age because we ran out of stones.

00:10:23.240 We got smarter.

00:10:24.320 We have the solutions we need.

00:10:26.360 We know what we need to do.

00:10:27.860 Now we need to implement them.

00:10:31.600 I feel dumber now.

00:10:34.280 Do I look dumber now?

00:10:36.680 I feel dumber now.

00:10:39.100 All right, let's look at that again for a moment.

00:10:40.560 Watch the first few seconds.

00:10:41.660 Take a look.

00:10:42.580 We have a plan and we're implementing it.

00:10:45.080 We have a plan to tackle climate change, to reduce our emissions, to create good jobs,

00:10:50.120 to grow our economy.

00:10:51.020 I'm going to say like 10 seconds.

00:10:54.080 So she said that the carbon tax will tackle climate change, or they have a plan to tackle

00:10:59.940 climate change.

00:11:03.380 Does the Canadian government actually claim that what they're doing will change the climate?

00:11:12.760 I mean, they might actually reduce emissions if everyone stopped driving, could be.

00:11:17.580 But will that actually stop or reverse climate change, the weather, the climate?

00:11:28.980 No one says that.

00:11:30.740 No one.

00:11:31.320 Not even the craziest activists of the UN.

00:11:34.660 No one says you can actually change the world's weather through a tax, or any other human action.

00:11:42.420 Does Catherine McKenna actually think we can?

00:11:45.320 If so, how much?

00:11:46.180 If we all pay her tax, what will be the change in the weather?

00:11:50.020 No one believes that, except her, maybe.

00:11:53.920 And I guess the entire parliamentary press gallery, who have let that talking point go

00:11:58.800 unanswered for three painful years.

00:12:01.740 And about reducing emissions.

00:12:04.440 It actually hasn't happened, has it?

00:12:06.840 I mean, they basically say the same as they were under Stephen Harper.

00:12:10.080 Does anyone ever fact check her?

00:12:13.320 And yes, the economy is growing at a snail's pace.

00:12:16.780 As we showed you yesterday, we got about 2% GDP growth per year.

00:12:21.300 Donald Trump's America is growing at 4.1% per year for comparison here.

00:12:25.460 Let's just watch a little more of this video.

00:12:26.600 They don't understand that there is a huge cost of climate change.

00:12:31.200 People that are facing extreme heat, people died this summer because of extreme heat in

00:12:36.120 Quebec and Ontario.

00:12:37.520 We had forest fires.

00:12:38.680 I've had to call ranchers who've lost their whole ranch because it's burned down.

00:12:44.240 I've helped sandbag because there have been floods that have impacted people's homes.

00:12:49.380 This is a huge cost and the cost is only going to grow if we don't take action.

00:12:55.680 What is she saying?

00:12:57.460 That floods and fires are the result of global warming?

00:13:00.680 I showed you.

00:13:01.760 The B.C. police say the 29 fires in that province were from arson.

00:13:06.260 Is she saying that the police are wrong?

00:13:09.660 Is she attributing those individual events to her theory of man-made global warming?

00:13:15.320 On what basis is she doing that? 0.99

00:13:17.720 But you heard how she ended that riff. 0.94

00:13:20.360 She said the cost we all pay is going to get worse unless we take climate action.

00:13:27.380 What does that mean?

00:13:27.780 She's seriously saying that if we just pay her carbon tax, it'll all stop.

00:13:32.500 It won't get worse.

00:13:33.840 The floods will stop.

00:13:34.760 The fires will stop.

00:13:35.480 That implies it was because of not paying her tax in the first place that those things 0.87

00:13:41.200 happened.

00:13:41.880 And the tax will be so powerful and so transformative, it'll stop the bad weather.

00:13:46.780 That's the logic of what she's saying.

00:13:49.060 I'm sorry.

00:13:49.800 How is that any different, any less superstitious than Aztec priests saying, sorry, hate to do

00:13:56.600 it, but we have to sacrifice humans and cut out their hearts on top of pyramids. 0.96

00:14:01.220 Because if you do make the sacrifice, and I'm so sorry for you that you have to, you will

00:14:06.860 stop this evil solar eclipse from happening or whatever.

00:14:10.460 Look, people do what I say.

00:14:12.440 The forest fire gods are going to continue being angry with us.

00:14:16.100 But it's the last point in that 71-second video that is probably the kookiest.

00:14:21.980 Listen.

00:14:22.600 They also don't understand the economic opportunity in the trillions of dollars.

00:14:27.520 If we are smart about this, we can be the country that is providing the clean solutions.

00:14:32.660 We are helping businesses save money because guess what?

00:14:35.240 When you're energy efficient, you save money.

00:14:37.540 And you know what you can do with that money?

00:14:39.240 Reinvest it in your business.

00:14:40.880 We want to work with Canadians.

00:14:42.380 So here we have it.

00:14:46.080 A lifelong leftist activist who has never run a business, never lived in the private sector

00:14:49.700 her whole life, telling you how to make money.

00:14:52.520 Hey, guys.

00:14:53.560 First she told you how to change the weather, pay her tax.

00:14:55.980 Now she's telling you how to get rich.

00:14:58.160 Trillions of dollars, guys.

00:14:59.740 Just pay your tax.

00:15:00.680 Come on.

00:15:01.280 Hey, guys.

00:15:02.280 You don't understand the trillions of dollars of opportunities that come with joining the

00:15:05.900 cult?

00:15:06.880 Well, no one can see it but her.

00:15:08.240 And she'll give you the path.

00:15:09.340 Just pay your tax and you'll get trillions of dollars.

00:15:11.700 She says all the small smart people are doing it and you know that's true.

00:15:16.000 But that last point there, we're helping you save money by being more energy efficient

00:15:21.940 and then you can reinvest all those savings in your business.

00:15:25.280 And if that were true, if there were a way to save money by cutting back on energy use,

00:15:29.720 people would do it without being told to by some politicians.

00:15:33.740 You don't need to be told not to buy things you don't need or don't need to be told to

00:15:38.260 fix a real problem that's a real problem.

00:15:39.840 But I think, I don't know.

00:15:41.560 I mean, she's never specific.

00:15:42.660 I think she means we're forcing you to use less energy through carbon taxes, through social

00:15:49.800 engineering, through behavioral changes.

00:15:52.560 So we're forcing you to use less energy.

00:15:54.960 And so you'll save money and you can spend that money that you can't afford to spend on

00:15:58.980 energy.

00:15:59.400 You can spend it on other things.

00:16:00.480 You see how that makes you rich?

00:16:02.140 You wanted to fly to Mexico.

00:16:03.900 You can't afford it.

00:16:04.920 Now you're rich.

00:16:05.880 You wanted to go on vacation.

00:16:08.540 Guess what?

00:16:08.960 You can't afford it.

00:16:09.860 But now you got that money.

00:16:11.100 You're rich.

00:16:11.780 You're welcome.

00:16:13.100 Hey, guys, I just did that for you.

00:16:16.180 That's the green shift, actually.

00:16:17.620 That's that's what Stefan Dion said.

00:16:19.640 That's actually what these airlines are exactly talking about.

00:16:23.320 Forcing people to be energy efficient by making energy so expensive that no one buys it.

00:16:27.420 Forcing people to not be able to fly or not be able to even take the Greyhound.

00:16:31.220 And hey, guys, you can save all that money you were going to foolishly spend on a Greyhound

00:16:35.440 ticket because you can no longer afford to buy a Greyhound.

00:16:38.300 So hey, treat yourself on me.

00:16:42.160 The last line I think is the most embarrassing.

00:16:44.700 Take a listen.

00:16:45.640 As I said, we can be smarter.

00:16:47.200 We did not get out of the Stone Age because we ran out of stones.

00:16:49.920 We got smarter.

00:16:51.040 We have the solutions we need.

00:16:53.080 We know what we need to do.

00:16:54.800 Now we need to implement them.

00:16:56.660 We did not get out of the Stone Age because we ran out of stones.

00:17:01.100 That's a great little line.

00:17:03.020 And does she mean that energy, though, is like the Stone Age, that we don't really need it

00:17:07.880 because we got something better?

00:17:08.800 I'm sure one day when we invent the lithium crystals or some other imaginary perfect source

00:17:13.640 of energy, I'm sure one day we will stop using oil and gas and coal and other carbon

00:17:17.960 based energy.

00:17:18.620 By the way, ethanol has carbon in it, obviously.

00:17:21.180 I mean, we do use some nuclear energy, right?

00:17:24.400 That doesn't have fossil fuels in it, but that hasn't replaced oil and gas and gasoline

00:17:30.140 in our cars.

00:17:30.840 One day, maybe, scientists will invent something new.

00:17:34.860 I look forward to that day.

00:17:36.540 But we haven't done that yet.

00:17:38.640 Until then, it's just a fantasy.

00:17:40.880 It's like alchemy, pretending you can change lead into gold, pretending you can just will

00:17:45.540 something into existence.

00:17:47.080 Except that Catherine McKenna and Justin Trudeau are amongst the biggest fossil fuel users in

00:17:51.780 the country that I can see, always jetting around on private jets.

00:17:55.220 I promise you, I promise you, they'll keep flying on their private jets long after Air

00:18:02.400 Canada and WestJet and Air Transat shut down their flights to Mexico or Nanaimo or Moncton

00:18:09.060 or wherever.

00:18:10.960 We've heard these same cliches from Catherine McKenna for three and a half years now. 0.80

00:18:14.960 I think people have tuned them out, mainly, but some people have obviously ingested them

00:18:21.500 and are repeating them.

00:18:23.340 And I don't just mean it to CBC.

00:18:26.180 I think we should start criticizing them and calling them out as the fools they are.

00:18:31.840 Don't you?

00:18:34.160 Stay with us for more.

00:18:35.200 Do you support violence to create this khilafah, this caliphate? 1.00

00:18:56.960 Do you support violence to achieve the goal of a worldwide ummah?

00:19:01.040 Well, what I would say to you is that it could only come to places like Britain and Canada

00:19:07.460 in one of four ways.

00:19:09.220 Either the people will embrace Islam and they will implement the Sharia, or a section of 0.99

00:19:13.720 the community will, like the army or, you know, the people in charge.

00:19:17.300 There will be a military or an ideological coup.

00:19:19.940 Or there could be a conflict like happened in Bosnia and other places.

00:19:22.680 The Muslims should end up in a position of authority. 0.97

00:19:24.980 Or lastly, which is the most likely scenario, is that the khilafah or the Islamic State will 0.80

00:19:29.640 remove the obstacles in the way of implementing the Sharia outside of its own frontiers.

00:19:34.100 So I believe that there are certain ways in which the government would be removed.

00:19:38.640 That man is Anjum Chowdhury.

00:19:41.860 And that was me interviewing him, or trying to interview him at least, a few years ago

00:19:47.140 at the Sun News Network.

00:19:49.180 It was an extreme experience.

00:19:51.440 He didn't hide his true heart.

00:19:53.860 He wants Sharia law in the United Kingdom, and he supports the use of jihadist violence 0.93

00:20:00.320 to do so.

00:20:02.200 A few years after that interview with Anjum Chowdhury, he was arrested, prosecuted, convicted,

00:20:06.440 and sentenced for providing support for boosting and recruiting ISIS.

00:20:12.540 He was sentenced to a lengthy jail term.

00:20:15.460 But guess what?

00:20:16.780 In the United Kingdom, just like in Canada, parole is easy, especially for terrorist supporters.

00:20:22.440 And today, Anjum Chowdhury is back on the streets of London.

00:20:28.460 Well, our own Jack Buckby is doing his best to stop that and to turn the tide against that.

00:20:33.280 He joins us now via Skype from London.

00:20:35.300 Jack, welcome to the show.

00:20:37.140 Thanks for having me, Ezra.

00:20:38.280 Well, for a couple of weeks now, you have been running a campaign that thousands, more than

00:20:43.260 10,000 rebel viewers, mainly in the UK, have signed called jailanjum.com.

00:20:51.060 And you actually deliver that petition.

00:20:53.220 Here, let's put the image of it.

00:20:54.460 It was beautiful to me.

00:20:56.240 You actually walked right up to the door at 10 Downing Street.

00:21:01.560 You knocked on the door and you gave the petition to an officer.

00:21:08.400 And he said, thanks.

00:21:09.680 And you said, thanks.

00:21:10.860 I know you had to arrange that in advance to get security clearance.

00:21:14.520 That's pretty exciting for the 11,000 people who signed your petition, Jack.

00:21:19.580 Yeah, it was a really bizarre experience for me.

00:21:22.260 I never thought I'd have the chance to knock on that door, but it happened.

00:21:26.860 And actually, I was kind of surprised they let me do it.

00:21:29.240 A few people have said that to, you know, Rebel Media and Jack Buckby outside Downing Street.

00:21:34.120 I'm quite surprised, but we managed it and the petition went in.

00:21:37.060 We handed them the petition as well as the results of the opinion poll, which showed 68% of Brits

00:21:42.120 want to see Anjan put back in prison.

00:21:44.500 Yeah.

00:21:44.820 And the thing is, and here's the poll on our screen right now.

00:21:48.040 It's not just 68%.

00:21:49.520 51% agree strongly.

00:21:54.100 And of course, 70% somewhat agree.

00:21:56.100 And on the other side, only single digits strongly want him released early.

00:22:02.600 So it's not just that Brits want him in jail.

00:22:05.640 They strongly want him in jail.

00:22:07.840 And you can count on five fingers the percent of Brits who strongly think he should be let out.

00:22:13.880 That may be his fellow jihadists. 0.97

00:22:17.300 There are quite a few of them in the UK.

00:22:20.360 How has his, he was released today.

00:22:23.460 He was sneaked out of prison at what, 4 a.m., I understand.

00:22:28.840 What's the public reaction?

00:22:30.460 Has the media been feasting on this, or are they sort of saying, oh, don't talk about it too much.

00:22:34.780 He's actually a saint.

00:22:35.820 What's the mainstream media been handling this?

00:22:38.760 Well, the mainstream media have been talking about it.

00:22:41.500 You know, when it comes to the I word, the one person the media are sort of willing to talk about is Anjan.

00:22:48.400 It's a lot of other people they're scared of talking about.

00:22:51.020 But one thing I will say about it is there's one person right here who's been talking about this for quite a long time

00:22:57.500 and running a campaign against it, and I'm the one person that the media certainly hasn't been asking to come on and comment about it.

00:23:04.520 There has been uproar that people are not happy about it.

00:23:08.120 And when I saw the photo of the bail house that he'll be staying in for the next six months,

00:23:12.060 I couldn't help but think as well that it looked much nicer than most flats that people can afford in London.

00:23:18.200 So he's doing all right for himself.

00:23:19.780 Well, that's the thing.

00:23:21.000 I mean, in Canada, at least, when someone is released on parole, as we call it,

00:23:26.360 sometimes they have day parole in their own house and have to go back in prison at night.

00:23:29.900 I guess we'd call this a halfway house. 0.86

00:23:32.260 But it's not a group house, is it?

00:23:34.120 It's just a home he's been put in.

00:23:35.540 Is that accurate?

00:23:37.320 Yeah, I imagine other people live there as well in a bail house.

00:23:40.480 But he has his own space, and the cost of housing him, protecting him, and monitoring him is not cheap.

00:23:47.800 It came out that it's two million pounds a year that we're going to be spending.

00:23:50.720 This is completely free.

00:23:52.660 Anjum Chowdhury isn't paying a thing for any of this.

00:23:55.560 He's living for free in London.

00:23:57.860 Well, that's incredible.

00:23:59.200 Two million pounds a year.

00:24:00.300 I'm just scribbling some math here.

00:24:01.860 That's just under 3.5 million Canadian dollars.

00:24:05.640 Now, if you divide that by 365 days, that's, if my math is right, that's $10,000 a day.

00:24:15.760 Jeez.

00:24:16.420 I think that's, if my math is right, $10,000 a day.

00:24:21.140 Well, it makes sense, because if you have to watch him 24 hours a day around the clock,

00:24:25.220 you have at least three shifts of police doing that.

00:24:27.620 You have police watching him visually, monitoring him electronically.

00:24:32.820 $10,000 a day.

00:24:36.160 And what do you mean by protecting him?

00:24:37.860 Protecting him from whom?

00:24:38.940 He's the ISIS supporter. 0.90

00:24:40.960 From whom does he need protection?

00:24:42.440 And why does he get protection and not, say, Tommy Robinson, who's actually threatened all the time?

00:24:47.520 Good question.

00:24:48.360 I mean, there's an obvious threat against Anjum Chowdhury because people are very angry.

00:24:53.060 Lee Rigby was killed by one of Anjum Chowdhury's disciples.

00:24:57.020 One of Anjum Chowdhury's disciples also committed the London Bridge terror attack.

00:25:01.580 So there's people that want to get back at the guy, understandably.

00:25:04.440 So that's part of the protection there.

00:25:05.880 But, you know, looking at some of the restrictions, I was looking earlier, and we've got things

00:25:09.800 like a ban from preaching or attending certain mosques.

00:25:12.420 And the first thing I thought about that was, is this the authorities admitting that certain

00:25:16.760 mosques are problems?

00:25:18.060 And if certain mosques are problems, are the authorities therefore Islamophobic?

00:25:22.040 One question for it.

00:25:23.520 But then there's other stuff.

00:25:24.780 Use of internet will be supervised, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:26.680 But the one that really got to me is he can't leave London, which really amazed me because

00:25:32.720 honestly, I would say I wouldn't want him in London in the first place.

00:25:37.260 The fact that he can't leave London doesn't make me feel any safer.

00:25:41.540 London's where he's done his proselytizing and his radicalization.

00:25:45.040 And he can't leave?

00:25:46.240 I'd rather he was in the Cotswolds.

00:25:47.780 Yeah, well, I'd rather him go to, I don't know, not Mosul these days, but let him hang 1.00

00:25:54.420 out with his buddies in the last tiny holdouts of ISIS in Syria or Iraq.

00:26:00.440 Yeah.

00:26:00.880 But you raise a good point.

00:26:02.000 If he's not allowed to go to certain mosques, that implies that the government thinks certain

00:26:06.280 mosques are problem areas.

00:26:08.240 I know that in other countries, whether it's France, Italy, or even China, but I wouldn't

00:26:14.940 use them as a comparator, governments have shut down mosques that are extremist, that

00:26:20.140 are violent, that have illegal imams there. 0.99

00:26:24.500 In the UK, has a mosque ever been shut down for its links to terrorism?

00:26:30.460 Have you ever heard of a mosque being shut down?

00:26:32.520 Like a biker gang clubhouse would be. 0.99

00:26:35.080 No, I've never heard of, I've never heard that happen.

00:26:37.580 And even after about 10 years ago, there was a documentary called Undercover Mosque done

00:26:43.640 by Hard Cash Productions.

00:26:45.840 And they ended up getting in trouble for being Islamophobic.

00:26:49.240 And what they uncovered was really shocking.

00:26:52.380 They found ammunition and all sorts being kept in mosques in the UK.

00:26:56.660 And it was Hard Cash Productions and ITV who got in trouble for it.

00:26:59.900 And ever since then, anyone who dare talk about mosques and radicalization, they just think

00:27:04.460 back to what happened to that documentary crew and production team, and they don't say

00:27:09.020 anything else.

00:27:09.640 Well, I tell you, I'm glad that The Rebel has been, I mean, we're interested in the UK

00:27:15.100 and we have a disproportionate number of viewers in the UK.

00:27:18.040 There's so much news there.

00:27:18.920 I always say to our Canadian and American viewers, the UK is interesting in itself, but

00:27:23.200 it's also a premonition of what will come our way if we don't change the path we're on.

00:27:27.540 Let's show that Downing Street clip one more time, because I just thought it was great.

00:27:32.860 Everyone knows that 10 Downing Street in Canada, the equivalent is 24 Sussex Drive.

00:27:37.620 In America, the equivalent is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:27:41.320 That's the British version of the White House. 0.74

00:27:43.920 And there you have it, Jack Buckby delivering a petition of thousands of names in the poll

00:27:49.240 results.

00:27:50.720 Do you think that's just going to be thrown right in the garbage?

00:27:53.200 Do you think anyone will actually look at that petition?

00:27:56.840 Do you think they'll at least look at the poll?

00:27:58.780 Because that's an independent third party poll.

00:28:00.600 We hired a pollster over there that does polling for reputable TV stations, ITV, Sky News, whatnot.

00:28:08.100 Do you think anyone there will at least look at the poll?

00:28:10.860 You know what?

00:28:11.600 I kind of think they will.

00:28:13.300 Theresa May, I heard her speaking during a press conference yesterday about Anjum Chowdhury

00:28:18.360 and her voice cracked in fear.

00:28:21.020 She's not comfortable talking about this guy.

00:28:23.500 I think she knows in her heart of hearts how bad this is.

00:28:26.180 And I hope, I hope that she sees her, or at least somebody in the cabinet sees it.

00:28:31.180 I know it went in there.

00:28:32.940 And you know, Ezra, if more people sign the petition, then maybe I can even go back if

00:28:37.080 the names get even bigger and make sure that they do see it.

00:28:39.840 That's a good idea for those who haven't signed it yet.

00:28:42.120 And I see no reason why people in Canada or the United States shouldn't sign it as well.

00:28:46.940 Go to Jail Anjum. 0.99

00:28:49.160 That's the first name of this character.

00:28:50.720 A-N-J-E-M. 1.00

00:28:52.380 Jail Anjum.

00:28:55.300 Dotcom. 0.95

00:28:56.180 Well, Jack, thanks so much for this.

00:28:57.700 And it was a very exciting moment for me to see the Rebel being represented on the steps

00:29:02.620 of 10 Downing Street.

00:29:03.500 Congratulations for that.

00:29:05.240 Thank you so much.

00:29:05.980 Take care.

00:29:06.440 All right.

00:29:06.860 That's Jack Buckby in the UK.

00:29:09.600 Stay with us.

00:29:10.560 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:29:11.460 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Canada dropping to number 12 in the

00:29:26.580 World Economic Forum's Global Competitiveness Rankings.

00:29:29.100 Ron writes,

00:29:29.500 Well, Ron, that's the thing.

00:29:36.660 I mean, I tried to show that this was a fairly comprehensive study.

00:29:40.200 And I hope you didn't get bored.

00:29:41.400 I took you through about 10 little points.

00:29:43.340 I was trying to show that this wasn't just like a figure skating judge saying it subjectively.

00:29:48.440 They were trying to measure it.

00:29:49.600 But, you know, I don't know how good the measurements was and who did the measurements for each of

00:29:53.960 those 100 criteria.

00:29:55.340 I believe that if anyone from the World Economic Forum would genuinely and truly look at how

00:30:01.460 the Canadian government killed, in the last three years, the Northern Gateway Pipeline,

00:30:06.500 the Energy East Pipeline, the Kinder Morgan Pipeline, and were it not for Donald Trump,

00:30:10.720 we wouldn't have the Keystone XL Pipeline.

00:30:13.160 If we saw how all these things were killed and fracking's being killed in Atlantic Canada,

00:30:17.080 I think we would rate far lower in so many ways, from regulations to litigation to, you know,

00:30:24.940 I mean, really, investment flight.

00:30:27.320 I don't think that latest number.

00:30:29.160 Because remember, this study just came out a couple days ago.

00:30:33.140 So I don't think that it would have had all of the recent events of this year in it.

00:30:39.700 I just don't, I mean, I don't know.

00:30:41.920 I don't know that kind of minutia of how this hundreds of pages of report was put together.

00:30:46.540 But I'm going to make a prediction now.

00:30:50.040 I predict we will fall again next year when this year's business setbacks are included.

00:30:55.300 What do you think?

00:30:55.760 Bruce writes, what a stark contrast between our socialist PM and Donald, Art of the Deal, Trump.

00:31:03.500 Well, yeah, and you know, I should play that clip for you.

00:31:07.020 I don't have it at my fingertips right now.

00:31:08.580 But Kanye West, for all of his curiosities and eccentricities,

00:31:12.960 sized up Trump pretty well the other day.

00:31:14.500 He said, Trump is blunt and he says exactly what he means.

00:31:18.260 Barack Obama was elusive.

00:31:20.500 Can you even remember what he says after he says it?

00:31:22.800 And that's a great question.

00:31:24.220 I've been in a few clunkers and gaffes like you didn't build up.

00:31:27.120 Can you tell me a single memorable phrase that Barack Obama said in eight years as president?

00:31:31.960 Seriously, try.

00:31:32.680 I can think of Ronald Reagan, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

00:31:37.380 I can think of John F. Kennedy.

00:31:39.020 Ask not what your country can do for you.

00:31:41.100 I can even think, I mean, even George W. Bush, you know,

00:31:45.320 when he was standing on the smoldering ground of 9-11.

00:31:49.040 I can hear you and soon the whole world will hear you.

00:31:51.320 I can think of some memorable remarks.

00:31:52.780 Can you think of a single thing Barack Obama said in eight years you can remember?

00:31:57.900 Of course you can't.

00:31:58.940 As Kanye West said, he was elusive.

00:32:00.540 And that's the difference between a bureaucrat politician, Barack Obama,

00:32:04.220 and a get-her-done communicator, Donald Trump.

00:32:06.740 And I'm going to play this clip for you.

00:32:08.240 I'll find it and I'll do it next week.

00:32:11.080 Kanye West says he has 90 staff.

00:32:12.880 I believe it.

00:32:14.080 And he says he's had to learn how to communicate so people get it done.

00:32:17.620 They know their responsibilities.

00:32:18.680 They know what they're going to be judged on, their achievements.

00:32:22.000 So Kanye, and it's weird to take this lesson from a rapper, isn't it?

00:32:25.320 But he's got a staff of 90.

00:32:27.200 It's more than just a rapper.

00:32:28.140 He's a businessman.

00:32:28.780 He says he has had to learn how to communicate bluntly, clearly,

00:32:32.200 to get things done because he's a businessman now with 90 staff.

00:32:35.540 Donald Trump, you know, you don't manage hotels, casinos,

00:32:39.040 developments, schemes, shows without getting it done, communicating and deciding.

00:32:47.980 And I think those same criticisms of Barack Obama apply just as much to Canada,

00:32:52.660 even more, because at least Barack Obama had some people in economic councils

00:32:57.640 who had done some things in Canada.

00:32:59.700 Look at the cabinet we have.

00:33:01.120 No one in cabinet has ever done anything.

00:33:06.540 Catherine McKinnon, who we talked about today.

00:33:09.260 Nothing.

00:33:10.040 A lifelong activist.

00:33:13.180 Miriam Monsef.

00:33:15.000 So many of the gender quota appointees.

00:33:17.880 Chrystia Freeland was like a pop journalist writer. 0.99

00:33:21.760 No one actually ran a business, did a deal, negotiated something.

00:33:25.800 He has no grown-ups around him.

00:33:29.440 I think you're right.

00:33:30.440 I think that Canada is getting worse because there's no grown-up to pull Trudeau back.

00:33:35.360 I will concede that someone or something spooked Trudeau into signing the new NAFTA deal

00:33:40.980 at the last minute.

00:33:42.180 Thank God for small miracles.

00:33:44.700 On my interview with Barbara Kay about trans people in sports, Ruben writes,

00:33:48.880 we were witnessing the slow death of women's sports because this can only end two ways. 1.00

00:33:52.500 Either the powers that be admit there are fundamental differences between men and women,

00:33:56.560 that the two are not interchangeable,

00:33:57.680 or let this continue until women stop participating in organized sports because there's no point 1.00

00:34:02.640 anymore.

00:34:03.000 Now, you said slow death, Ruben.

00:34:04.600 I'm going to disagree with you.

00:34:07.460 I mean, it depends what you mean by slow.

00:34:08.960 But I think that you will see, in the next 365 days, a sports competition of some variety,

00:34:18.480 whether it's bicycling, as was the case here, or wrestling, or probably weightlifting.

00:34:23.640 Like, of all the different sports, there's female weightlifting. 1.00

00:34:26.920 Some people find that interesting to compete in and to watch.

00:34:29.780 That's a perfect example of where men would absolutely dominate. 0.97

00:34:34.620 Because even a not-so-fit man is going to have more sheer strength than a pretty fit woman. 0.97

00:34:42.420 Especially if you're talking about people on a couple of standard deviations outside of

00:34:47.180 the norm.

00:34:47.680 It's true.

00:34:48.620 Your average guy is not that much stronger than your average gal. 1.00

00:34:53.860 It's true.

00:34:54.340 But as you move out toward the elites, the difference becomes more pronounced.

00:35:01.420 Let me explain this in another way.

00:35:03.140 If you were to rank the strongest weightlifters in the world, starting with the absolute strongest

00:35:13.380 person in the world, I don't know who that is, and go to the second strongest, the third,

00:35:17.780 the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, the sixth, you would go through thousands of people before

00:35:23.660 you got to the first woman.

00:35:24.840 I'm sorry, I'm not being sexist, I'm just saying that one of the differences between

00:35:29.920 men and women.

00:35:31.160 And so let's say you are the thousandth strongest weightlifter male in the world.

00:35:38.200 You're never going to get any respect.

00:35:39.920 You're going to come in a thousandth every time.

00:35:42.260 No point in even competing.

00:35:43.620 There's 999 guys better than you.

00:35:46.580 But you would immediately be the number one champion of any women's competition. 1.00

00:35:51.500 Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:35:52.400 There are some activities where men and women physically are actually comparable.

00:35:56.560 In some swimming events, women are better than men. 0.95

00:35:59.800 Did you know that?

00:36:00.620 And it goes to biology.

00:36:02.420 I'm not going to get into that here right now.

00:36:04.480 So here's my point, Ruben, my lengthy little detour.

00:36:09.360 Remember, how long before the 10,000th or the 100,000th best guy in weightlifting or wrestling

00:36:19.240 or a very power-intensive sport where men would have a biological advantage, how long before 0.81

00:36:24.620 loser number 100,000 on the men's side says, you know what, I want to win.

00:36:28.440 I'm going to say I'm a woman, and I'm immediately going to be a serious contender because of the

00:36:35.180 difference, especially in the extremes between strength of new women and women.

00:36:39.140 And that is a long way of saying, Ruben, you will see it in the next year that all three

00:36:44.080 people on the podium are transgender men.

00:36:46.820 You will see that in the next year because there's someone out there who is either a real 0.98

00:36:52.540 transgender person who's working through issues like this Rachel McKinnon obviously is, or a

00:36:57.960 faker who just says, you know what, I can call myself a gal, put on a shave and some makeup,

00:37:04.860 and I can go and win because it's just gender identity. 1.00

00:37:08.560 I don't even have to cut off my twig and berries.

00:37:11.080 I can just go and say I'm a gal.

00:37:13.760 How long before some trickster does it?

00:37:16.040 How long before some troublemaking frat boy does it, just as a stunt, how long before

00:37:22.020 some YouTuber says, I'm going to do a shtick here, I'm going to do a joke, play a joke on

00:37:26.440 the world, emperor has no clothes, I'm going to go to a competition, say I'm a gal, threaten

00:37:31.820 them with a lawsuit if they don't let me in, I'm going to win this, and boy, me and my buddies

00:37:35.100 are going to have a big laugh back at the bar.

00:37:36.820 Oh, and if you say I'm faking it, I'll see you in court, mister.

00:37:41.260 That's a very, very, very long way of saying the day is coming where women's sport is ending.

00:37:45.520 That day will be here before the calendar says 2020, expected in the next year.

00:37:50.260 All right, I've kept you long enough.

00:37:52.320 Folks, thanks for watching.

00:37:53.620 I've got a show on Monday, it's a special about why I'm going to the UK, so tune in on Monday

00:37:57.380 for sure.

00:37:58.340 Tuesday I'll be in the UK with the whole team, and I'll have lots to say then, but have a

00:38:02.420 great weekend.

00:38:03.280 Watch our YouTube videos until then.

00:38:05.160 We've got other shows, as you know, Sheila Gunn-Reed, David Menzies, et cetera.

00:38:08.860 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.

00:38:11.600 Keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - October 20, 2018

Thanks to Trudeau's carbon tax, Canadian airlines will stop flying to smaller cities

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