Rebel News Podcast - World Economic Forum calls Trump’s America the most competitive country — while Canada drops to #12

00:00:00.000 Tonight, a new report by the World Economic Forum says Donald Trump's America is the most competitive country in the world, but Canada has fallen to number 12.

00:00:09.560 It's October 18, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:17.980 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:21.780 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:25.500 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:28.480 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:38.940 Have you heard of the World Economic Forum?

00:00:41.180 It's not a government.

00:00:42.640 It's more of a club where politicians and celebrities and business people and wannabes go for an annual party each January in Davos, Switzerland.

00:00:52.440 Maybe you've heard it referred to that way, Davos.

00:00:54.940 It's like a skiing party.

00:00:57.280 It's like the film festival in Cannes, France, but for bankers, really.

00:01:03.280 Of course, the hangers-on are thick as thieves because there's a lot more money at Davos than at Cannes.

00:01:08.900 Trudeau first went to Davos in January 2016, shortly after he was elected.

00:01:14.700 And if you believe the CBC, he made a splash.

00:01:17.520 Look at this, love letter from the state broadcaster Justin Trudeau's youthful pro-diversity pitch goes global in Davos.

00:01:27.680 PM's prowess on social media earned him fans around the world before arriving at World Economic Forum.

00:01:34.680 Yeah, that's pretty cringy to read now at the end of 2018, isn't it?

00:01:40.700 His social media prowess.

00:01:43.040 I guess that's what he was selling.

00:01:46.540 But even the media has gotten a bit sick of that.

00:01:48.540 It's been two years.

00:01:49.340 I mean, it's only so long you can pretend that being a mascot and dancing and social media prowess is the same as being a leader.

00:01:58.540 Back to the CBC article for a moment.

00:02:00.220 Scroll down, but this is from 2006.

00:02:01.700 There's a picture of his socks.

00:02:04.240 Seriously.

00:02:05.480 Remember when some people still thought that was pretty fresh?

00:02:08.220 Pretty cool.

00:02:09.900 Scroll down to the end of the story a little bit.

00:02:11.500 There's a picture of Trudeau taking a selfie with a pretty girl.

00:02:15.060 Let me read the caption at the bottom.

00:02:17.880 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau takes a photo with global shaper.

00:02:21.980 Did you know that's a thing?

00:02:23.620 Global shaper Rowan Abutairi from Saudi Arabia after a question and answer session in the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland on Thursday.

00:02:33.940 She's very pretty, isn't she?

00:02:36.060 But she's from Saudi Arabia, which is a place that doesn't let her go out with uncovered hair.

00:02:41.060 But her purpose is just to put a pretty face on the dictatorship in Davos. 1.00

00:02:44.860 And Trudeau and the CBC were happy to oblige in that PR.

00:02:48.120 So it's all shallow all the time.

00:02:50.380 But the media loved it, or at least the CBC did.

00:02:52.940 God, they did a lot of stories.

00:02:54.940 Here's another one about celebrities who took Trudeau photos, selfies with Trudeau.

00:03:00.640 Here's Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:03:01.900 See him?

00:03:02.980 There's a picture.

00:03:03.900 Scroll down a little bit.

00:03:04.740 You'll see Trudeau with a Hollywood sex predator.

00:03:08.660 Kevin Spacey is on that page also.

00:03:11.720 The CBC was just filled.

00:03:13.860 To be done with that Squaresville guy, Stephen Harper.

00:03:16.020 No, we got a cool guy in Justin Trudeau now.

00:03:18.280 Trudeau gave some speeches at Davos, too.

00:03:20.020 It wasn't just parties with aging celebrities.

00:03:22.080 But they were in the same sort of vein.

00:03:24.640 They were like the rambling, cliched speeches he used to give at teachers' conventions for

00:03:28.400 $20,000 a pop.

00:03:29.400 Remember this?

00:03:30.680 But you need to take as much effort to talk to your sons, my eight-year-old boy and my

00:03:36.280 two-year-old, so a little young still, about how he treats women and how he is going to

00:03:41.300 be grown up to be a feminist just like Dad. 0.99

00:03:43.960 That's what he went there to say.

00:03:47.520 And it was dreamy.

00:03:49.940 Oh, man.

00:03:51.840 And that was before the revelation came out that Justin Trudeau actually sexually assaulted

00:03:56.860 a female journalist in Creston, B.C. 1.00

00:03:58.560 So back then, it was just wonderful, though.

00:04:01.280 Basically, a big party for Trudeau.

00:04:03.180 But unlike his parties as a trust fund playboy growing up, and by growing up, I mean until

00:04:07.860 his mid-30s, you and I had to pay for this trip.

00:04:10.480 He did give a substantive speech of sorts, including this line.

00:04:14.480 Take a listen.

00:04:14.900 I'm going to come back to that line in a moment, because unlike most of his virtue signaling

00:04:35.680 and his blather and his fancy socks, there was some substance there, a claim that fighting

00:04:40.220 climate change creates growth and jobs and wealth and prosperity.

00:04:44.260 I'm going to come back to that.

00:04:45.140 By the way, Stephen Harper would occasionally attend some of these fancy get-togethers.

00:04:49.600 One year, I think it was before he was prime minister, he went to the Bilderberg get-together

00:04:54.100 in Europe.

00:04:54.580 One year, I think he went to the Bohemian Grove Secret Society in California.

00:04:58.980 These things are clubs and parties and hangouts.

00:05:00.820 I suppose some real work does get done at them, but they're not formal meetings.

00:05:04.740 You can get work done.

00:05:06.480 You can lobby.

00:05:07.560 You can meet other real people who were there.

00:05:09.420 Or you could show off your fancy socks and hang out with aging celebrities.

00:05:13.240 That's what Trudeau likes to do.

00:05:15.540 Oh, and it's also where he meets up with George Soros.

00:05:20.060 So maybe back in 2016, Justin Trudeau was still too green.

00:05:23.420 He'd only been prime minister for a few months.

00:05:25.620 Donald Trump hadn't yet become president, hadn't yet reshaped the world, including its

00:05:29.760 economy.

00:05:30.300 So maybe Trudeau was just still in frat boy mode.

00:05:33.960 But listen to him two years later.

00:05:37.480 This is from January 2018.

00:05:40.460 Trump had been president for a full year, cutting taxes, canceling the UN Global Warming Treaty

00:05:46.060 for America, renegotiating NAFTA, going full tilt with oil and gas and coal production.

00:05:51.420 But the main thing was Trump had just, if you recall, in January, cut taxes so deeply.

00:05:57.380 I think it was the largest tax cuts in U.S. history.

00:05:59.200 And the U.S. stock markets were roaring.

00:06:03.080 And he was really following through on his promise to make America great again economically.

00:06:07.620 I mean, I don't care what you say about Donald Trump's personality.

00:06:09.880 You must admit, economically at least, he has kept that promise jobs-wise, lowest unemployment

00:06:15.920 in recent memory.

00:06:19.240 So what did Trudeau say in January 2018, when he was two years older and two years wiser,

00:06:24.340 now a year into Trump's administration, in the wake of this massive tax cut, here's what

00:06:30.560 Justin Trudeau used his platform to talk about.

00:06:33.720 I'd like to focus tonight on a fundamental shift that every single leader in this room

00:06:39.020 can act on immediately.

00:06:41.800 One that I've made a central tenet of my leadership.

00:06:45.100 One that is core to this year's forum, thanks to the leadership of our seven exceptional co-chairs.

00:06:52.320 I'm talking about hiring, promoting, and retaining more women. 1.00

00:07:07.580 And not just because it's the right thing to do, or the nice thing to do, but because

00:07:15.060 it's the smart thing to do.

00:07:17.260 In Canada, like all over the world, much of the economic and labor force growth we've

00:07:23.580 experienced over the last many decades is because of women entering into and changing 1.00

00:07:29.280 the workforce.

00:07:31.060 Okay, we all like women just fine. 1.00

00:07:34.660 They do pretty well in Canada, from corporate leadership to political leadership.

00:07:39.240 I don't think there's any real barriers anymore other than if women choose not to do something.

00:07:44.140 We have the third governor general in recent years who's female. 0.97

00:07:49.080 We just had a female chief justice of our Supreme Court and prime minister. 1.00

00:07:53.920 It's not a big deal back here in Canada.

00:07:57.880 I mean, women's equality is a big deal in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia, but Justin 1.00

00:08:01.120 Trudeau doesn't say a word about that.

00:08:03.020 He prefers virtue signaling banalities.

00:08:05.620 We should be encouraging women and men to make the best decision for their family situation.

00:08:15.280 This is the guy, I remind you, who hired not one, but two nannies with taxpayers' dollars.

00:08:21.580 But he was the closest he was getting to a policy proposal.

00:08:24.500 He had the world's attention, or at least some of the insiders for a moment.

00:08:28.040 He was his big pitch to investors to the economic masters of the universe, just days after Trump

00:08:33.120 brought in the largest tax cuts in memory.

00:08:35.920 Trudeau said this.

00:08:37.260 In Canada, we need more women in politics, more women on corporate boards, and more women 1.00

00:08:43.060 in STEM.

00:08:45.420 So that's your big plan.

00:08:46.860 STEM, by the way, is science, technology, engineering, and math.

00:08:50.140 And by the way, liberals have been toying with the idea of forcing quotas on companies for

00:08:54.420 women on boards of directors, and obviously affirmative action in universities and scientific 1.00

00:08:58.600 institutions.

00:08:59.300 So really, it was just the same as in 2016, just super cool feminist virtue signaling.

00:09:05.720 Nothing on competing with Trump's tax cuts.

00:09:07.740 Nothing on business.

00:09:09.460 He didn't really say anything substantive on NAFTA back then.

00:09:12.440 Just really more male feminism. 1.00

00:09:17.320 Which brings us to the news of today.

00:09:19.740 I just want to remind you what World Economic Forum was, what that Davos group was.

00:09:23.080 Because the World Economic Forum, the group that hosts these great parties each year,

00:09:27.960 each January, where Trudeau goes to speak and makes promises of, what did he say again?

00:09:32.540 We can fight climate change without sacrificing growth and prosperity.

00:09:37.220 That's what he said.

00:09:38.340 He said, in fact, our global push toward a low-carbon economy will produce new companies,

00:09:42.600 new growth, and new prosperity.

00:09:43.960 Remember he said that?

00:09:44.680 Well, how did that all work out?

00:09:47.080 Because it's been a couple years now.

00:09:48.240 Now, did his feminism and did his carbon tax obsession and his global warming obsession, 0.86

00:09:54.800 did that, in fact, bring new companies to Canada, new growth to Canada, new prosperity

00:09:58.900 to Canada?

00:09:59.400 Did it?

00:10:01.020 Well, in addition to having big parties, the World Economic Forum does some economic studies.

00:10:06.920 They do some work the rest of the year, including a massive, comprehensive, deeply researched

00:10:11.420 publication each year on global competitiveness.

00:10:13.680 They rank the countries of the world by dozens of different criteria.

00:10:17.780 I'll take you straight to the executive summary on page XI.

00:10:20.660 Let me read how they describe it.

00:10:22.280 They say, covering 140 economies, the Global Competitiveness Index 4.0 measures national competitiveness

00:10:29.660 defined as a set of institutions, policies, and factors that determine the level of productivity.

00:10:35.140 And look at that.

00:10:36.400 Right on top there, the United States of America.

00:10:41.300 America, and then Singapore, and then Germany, and then Switzerland, and then Japan.

00:10:47.780 That sounds about right to me, doesn't it?

00:10:49.640 But look at Canada.

00:10:51.660 We've dropped two slots in the past year.

00:10:55.840 We're number 12.

00:10:56.740 I mean, that's still great.

00:10:58.920 But Finland is now ahead of Finland?

00:11:01.940 Are you serious?

00:11:03.520 Now, if you skip to page 143, that's the detailed report on Canada.

00:11:08.680 You can see it country by country.

00:11:10.480 You can see what went into our country rankings.

00:11:12.900 So this wasn't like figure skating judges that have an element of subjectivity.

00:11:17.500 There's dozens of factors, each of which itself is measured as carefully as can be done.

00:11:23.160 They're trying to be scientific here.

00:11:25.200 Now, just hold up on this big chart on the screen for a moment.

00:11:28.440 I'm going to take you through it.

00:11:29.200 So this is at the top of the Canada page.

00:11:31.860 Do you see all those colorful bars?

00:11:33.300 Those are different measures for competitiveness.

00:11:37.340 On the far left, it says overall competitiveness.

00:11:42.000 You see that?

00:11:43.280 And then the country name at the top of the bar, it says USA.

00:11:48.080 That says which country is best.

00:11:50.260 So that says USA.

00:11:51.380 And since this is the Canada page, the number at the bottom shows our rank.

00:11:54.500 So hold this up on the screen for a bit.

00:11:55.940 There's a lot going on here.

00:11:56.900 Let me just walk you through it for a minute.

00:11:57.980 So on that bar on the left, that's the overall ranking.

00:12:01.860 We're number 12.

00:12:02.560 America's number one.

00:12:03.360 The next four bars that are pink there, those are all called enabling environment.

00:12:09.040 That's broken down into things like institutions and infrastructure and other things like that.

00:12:13.220 And each of those is broken down further and further and further.

00:12:15.860 So you can see we're actually tied for number one on macroeconomic stability.

00:12:21.700 I don't know if you can see that.

00:12:22.660 That's the last pink line on the right there.

00:12:26.040 We're tied for number one.

00:12:27.980 That means our banks are not failing in Canada.

00:12:30.260 Our dollar is not plunging into nothing, like Venezuela, say.

00:12:34.100 Now, not a lot of credit to Trudeau for that.

00:12:36.080 That's our banking system that survived the 2008 crash in the U.S.

00:12:40.280 And Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty brought in some changes there.

00:12:44.520 So we're doing okay for institutions.

00:12:46.260 Now, the next category is called human capital.

00:12:48.980 That's in orange there.

00:12:51.240 The first one is health.

00:12:52.740 The next one is skills.

00:12:55.200 Again, we're doing pretty well.

00:12:56.440 You know, 12th place, 11th place, no problem.

00:12:58.660 No one's saying we're a basket case.

00:12:59.960 Even slipping two notches from 10 to 12 isn't a cataclysm.

00:13:02.580 But we're going in the wrong direction under Baron von Novelty's socks, aren't we?

00:13:06.520 While the tyrant Donald Trump has taken his country into number one.

00:13:09.920 Now, I'm going to speed up here.

00:13:10.640 I'm just trying to show you that the overall number is made up of a lot of different parts.

00:13:14.560 It's not just a subjective thing.

00:13:16.000 And each part has parts.

00:13:17.200 So this is sort of scientific.

00:13:19.000 Now, over on the far right, in, I guess, what's that color?

00:13:23.780 Turquoise.

00:13:24.580 You can see business dynamism.

00:13:27.240 That's second from the right.

00:13:29.060 And innovation capability.

00:13:31.100 Dynamism really means entrepreneurial spirit.

00:13:33.220 Cutting red tape, stuff like that, getting it done.

00:13:35.240 It's no surprise the U.S. is number one for that.

00:13:37.800 And innovation, for all of Trudeau's talk, we're just in 13th place for that.

00:13:41.680 No surprise Germany's number one there.

00:13:43.160 But now scroll down a bit.

00:13:45.120 I want to show you the line at the bottom there.

00:13:47.020 You see that line that says 10-year average GDP growth, and it's just 1.6%.

00:13:52.780 That's bad.

00:13:55.760 Now, of course, Stephen Harper was prime minister for seven of the last 10 years,

00:13:58.760 but that included the worldwide Great Recession.

00:14:02.100 How are we doing these days?

00:14:03.300 Well, not much better.

00:14:04.280 You know, the projected GDP growth for Canada is only about 2%.

00:14:07.920 I mean, now the TV bank says that all this marijuana business will boost it to 2.2%.

00:14:13.880 Yeah, I guess.

00:14:15.100 I wonder how much damage to the GDP that stone drivers and stone workers will cost, so I'm 1.00

00:14:19.120 skeptic.

00:14:19.560 But my point is, we're growing at just around 2%.

00:14:22.380 That's pretty lame.

00:14:25.740 While Donald Trump's America just clocked double that.

00:14:29.920 And of course, their economy is 10 times bigger than ours anyways.

00:14:33.000 I want to show you a few more details on where the World Economic Forum says we're weak.

00:14:37.780 And you might disagree with them, but I want to show you their measurements,

00:14:40.400 because I know you won't see this anywhere else.

00:14:42.320 So give me a couple more minutes, okay?

00:14:44.760 Look on page 144 of the document.

00:14:48.040 Do you see it says budget transparency?

00:14:51.440 And do you see it says ranking out of 140 countries they measure?

00:14:54.740 We're ranked 61.

00:14:55.800 So there are 60 countries that are more honest in their government budgeting than Canada is.

00:15:03.220 I think that's a problem, don't you?

00:15:05.140 There's another one on there called efficiency of legal framework in challenging regulations.

00:15:11.180 That's another one we're doing poorly and ranked 25th.

00:15:14.540 Finland's number one again.

00:15:16.400 So that says, you know, that says we're ranked where we are, but I think we're going to do

00:15:22.320 far worse next year.

00:15:23.480 Just ask anyone who's been following the oil and gas pipeline fiasco trying to get the

00:15:27.660 Trans Mountain pipeline built.

00:15:29.320 Here's the next one.

00:15:30.400 Burden of government regulation.

00:15:32.380 We're in 53rd place.

00:15:35.820 52 countries are better than us.

00:15:39.580 Can you imagine that?

00:15:40.700 Singapore is the best in the world.

00:15:41.980 Skip down the page.

00:15:44.060 Labor tax rate.

00:15:46.180 We're awful.

00:15:48.240 All our payroll taxes.

00:15:49.620 That means someone comes in the door and says, I want to work for you.

00:15:51.880 You say, I want to hire you.

00:15:53.240 Yeah, well, the government's there.

00:15:54.160 Well, we want CPP and we want EI and we want payroll taxes and OPP and all that.

00:15:59.760 So we're ranked 50th.

00:16:01.480 49 countries are better than us.

00:16:03.320 That's a big deterrent to employment, of course.

00:16:06.080 Here's one.

00:16:06.600 I don't know how they measure it, but they call it attitudes towards entrepreneurial risk.

00:16:13.040 They measure that on a scale of one to seven.

00:16:14.820 Seven's the best.

00:16:15.460 We're only at 4.4.

00:16:17.200 We're ranked just 31 in the world.

00:16:18.780 30 countries are better than us.

00:16:20.040 I believe it.

00:16:20.580 Why would you risk things in Canada to be an entrepreneur?

00:16:23.420 The government will just tax you, regulate you, ban you, scold you, make it tough for

00:16:27.300 you, even compete against you.

00:16:29.220 Maybe Americans are culturally bolder than us.

00:16:32.720 Probably.

00:16:33.700 But I don't blame our Canadian people.

00:16:35.380 I blame a system that punishes and even demonizes entrepreneurs, you know, like this guy.

00:16:41.340 So there could be a cut for small business.

00:16:44.700 We'll probably have things to say about it, but we have to know that a large percentage

00:16:48.780 of small businesses are actually just ways for wealthier Canadians to save on their taxes.

00:16:57.480 Yeah, when a millionaire trust fund boy who never had worked a day in his life till his

00:17:01.380 mid-30s calls millions of small business people tax cheats, why would you risk everything?

00:17:07.160 Why would you mortgage your house?

00:17:08.340 Why would you put your life savings into a business just for him to come and take half

00:17:11.920 the profits if you succeed and blame me if you don't?

00:17:14.380 But here's my point.

00:17:16.120 We were told time and again that Trudeau's social justice obsessions, that feminism, that 0.97

00:17:21.120 global warming, that diversity, that people kind stuff, whatever, we've been told a hundred

00:17:25.080 times by Trudeau and his cabinet and their stenographers in the media that it would all

00:17:28.820 pay off big time.

00:17:30.140 Lots of money, apparently, to be made when a carbon tax is put on you.

00:17:35.540 Lots of money to be made by affirmative action for women in engineering companies. 1.00

00:17:40.780 Lots of money in it.

00:17:41.580 I don't know, the thinking being that greedy capitalists, people who actually work for a

00:17:46.160 living and run businesses for a living and love profit and love prosperity, they don't

00:17:49.480 know how to hire and they need trust fund layabouts to tell them how to run their business.

00:17:54.540 All they needed was for Trudeau and his gurus to tell them how to run their companies and

00:17:58.580 then the economy would improve.

00:18:01.220 No.

00:18:01.960 We're running at just half the GDP growth of Trump's America.

00:18:05.180 I guess the only question is, is that good enough for Canadians?

00:18:11.240 Stay with us for more.

00:18:12.380 I make the argument both that there's no scientific evidence that trans women have a competitive

00:18:33.460 advantage.

00:18:34.280 There's no relationship between the naturally produced endogenous testosterone and performance.

00:18:39.700 And that sport is a human right, according to the IOC, and that we have to promote inclusive

00:18:45.960 sport.

00:18:46.880 Everyone has a right to compete.

00:18:48.480 I think sport is becoming increasingly inclusive.

00:18:52.080 I think those opposing inclusive sport are on the wrong side of history and that the victories

00:19:00.600 that we have made are not going to go away.

00:19:02.780 But there's no guarantee that we will get to where we want to without continuing to fight.

00:19:09.700 That is a man, born a man who has decided to become a woman, calls himself Rachel now.

00:19:15.100 And as I said yesterday in my monologue, if someone says you really should treat me like

00:19:18.980 a woman, you really should call me Rachel.

00:19:20.960 In a personal setting, in a real life setting, I don't think I would quarrel with them.

00:19:25.640 Why would you want to embarrass someone?

00:19:28.000 Why would you want to fight with someone if they really, really, really believe they're

00:19:32.480 a woman? 0.80

00:19:33.060 Why disabuse them of that?

00:19:35.100 A few years ago, this was considered a mental illness until a vote by the American Psychiatric

00:19:40.000 Association at a conference just decided that it was no longer an illness.

00:19:44.020 That's all fine.

00:19:44.680 I'm not looking to embarrass anybody.

00:19:46.300 But if a man who presents as a woman can then enter a sports competition and crush biological 0.96

00:19:55.440 women, because he is a biological man and despite what he says there, men obviously have a physical

00:20:02.040 advantage when it comes to power and strength, do we have to go along with that too?

00:20:06.980 And the reason I say that is that Dr. Rachel McKinnon, as he calls himself, did win a championship

00:20:13.120 bicycling competition, there he is in the middle there, and I'm sorry, he looks, you can see

00:20:18.940 physiologically he is different than the two women he beat.

00:20:23.360 And of course, you can't see the other woman who was displaced because he came in first,

00:20:28.780 these women were pushed down to second and third, and then there's someone we'll never 1.00

00:20:32.160 know who came in fourth, who's not on the podium.

00:20:35.180 Joining us now via Skype from Montreal is Barbara Kaye, a columnist with the National Post to talk

00:20:40.040 about this.

00:20:40.400 Barbara, great to see you again.

00:20:41.320 Good to see you too, Ezra.

00:20:43.720 You know, I don't want to fight with anybody, I don't want to pick on anybody.

00:20:46.800 If someone is uncomfortable in their own skin, if someone has a problem with themselves,

00:20:51.060 I don't want to make it my business.

00:20:53.540 As I said on my show yesterday, there is a tremendous amount of mental anguish that goes

00:20:59.240 along with transgenderism, and suicide attempts are 50% or more if these young men go on hormones 0.99

00:21:07.060 or have surgery, the suicide attempts go up to 55% or 60%.

00:21:11.060 It's not a case for anger, it's a case for sorrow and trying to help.

00:21:15.640 But this guy is pushing aside actual female athletes, and he's claiming it's his human

00:21:20.800 right to do so.

00:21:21.460 What do you make of that?

00:21:22.100 Well, you know, all this talk of rights, inclusivity, that's all very well, but this really is about

00:21:31.840 sports.

00:21:32.960 Sports is very much based in the body.

00:21:35.480 And I'm not surprised that Dr. McKinnon takes this angle of rights and inclusivity, because

00:21:43.160 we have been made to use the word woman, to change the definition of woman from biological 0.69

00:21:54.440 to feelings, people's identity.

00:21:58.620 So that's, as you say, it's all very well if you're just in polite conversation or in a

00:22:03.760 classroom or whatever, but when you are dealing with sport, which is very much about biological

00:22:08.740 capacity, the inclusivity has to stop right there, because this is not working, it's not

00:22:17.800 only testosterone that gives biological males the advantage in a sporting situation.

00:22:24.120 It's muscle mass, it's body shape, it's size, all these things.

00:22:29.180 It doesn't work the other way, because women who think that they are men who have gender 1.00

00:22:34.440 dysphoria, so women who identify as male, they're not going to have that advantage, no

00:22:42.080 matter how much testosterone they have. 0.97

00:22:45.200 In most sporting situations, it's going to be very unusual, or one that requires great

00:22:50.000 strength, like cycling does.

00:22:52.140 It's going to be very unusual for a biological female to beat a male. 1.00

00:22:56.580 So this is all a baffle gab, this talk of rights and inclusivity.

00:23:01.800 And I always said, sports is where the rubber is going to meet the road on the trans issue, 0.95

00:23:06.280 because sooner or later, the women who are being displaced, who are being erased, whose

00:23:11.320 biology is being erased, are going to get the message and say, no more, we're not standing

00:23:16.640 for this.

00:23:17.140 And frankly, if I were a female athlete and that happened to me, I would go on strike.

00:23:21.960 I just wouldn't compete against biological males, and I would say, start a new category 0.71

00:23:27.140 for trans women, and let's compete against each other. 1.00

00:23:30.960 Yeah, have a trans league.

00:23:34.120 And, you know, it's not just sex, it's age.

00:23:40.020 There's a reason we don't let 16-year-old boys, young men, play hockey against 10-year-old

00:23:48.620 boys, it's not, I mean, I suppose we are, in the technical sense of the word, discriminating,

00:23:54.600 but it's discrimination with a valid basis, because the 16-year-old's going to crush the

00:23:59.760 little kids.

00:24:00.340 It's the reason we have, in boxing, we have different weight categories.

00:24:04.880 I suppose that is discrimination, but it's because we don't want, you know, a brutal

00:24:09.320 Mike Tyson to crush a featherweight.

00:24:12.240 So yes, this is discrimination, but it's based on, as you say, the nature of sport.

00:24:17.600 It's not sporting for a man to beat up a woman.

00:24:21.280 It's not sporting, it's like that Seinfeld episode, when Kramer goes to Taekwondo against

00:24:27.840 all the little kids, and he's so proud of himself, because he beat all these little kids.

00:24:32.600 That's not sport.

00:24:34.220 No, it isn't.

00:24:34.980 And that's why we have, why sport is a metaphor for fairness, and it's why, you know, people

00:24:43.760 are supposed to have honor in sport.

00:24:47.020 You know, when you play tennis, when you call a ball out, if it's in or in or if it's out,

00:24:51.920 people look at you, you know, it's just the most terrible thing you can do is to cheat

00:24:56.900 in any game.

00:24:58.620 And this is cheating.

00:24:59.620 It is cheating.

00:25:00.300 So, you know, the sporting associations, the IOC, they've been slow to respond and to

00:25:08.880 come up with policies because they're a little bit paralyzed by the ideology.

00:25:14.440 These are all liberals.

00:25:15.620 These are all people that want to be in good standing in terms of being good citizens and

00:25:20.060 having the right attitudes.

00:25:23.020 But they're baffled and upset by this because they know very well in their heart that speed,

00:25:29.900 power, all these attributes are biologically based and no amount of identifying with the

00:25:36.840 other sex is going to change that situation.

00:25:40.860 And this idea that only testosterone counts, sorry, that's not on.

00:25:47.960 It just isn't.

00:25:48.800 And real athletes know that that is not the only distinction.

00:25:52.920 I think one of the reasons why sports heroes are treated with such admiration, regardless,

00:25:59.900 by the way, I'm going to mention, of their race.

00:26:02.740 I mean, in the sports, the field of professional sports in America, whether it's the NFL, the

00:26:08.200 NBA, the Major League Baseball, is a field where black Americans especially have excelled

00:26:15.560 because it's a pure meritocracy.

00:26:17.940 Because, in fact, racism, if there was a team out there that would be racist and not

00:26:22.200 hire a black player, they're going to lose to the team that hires the best people regardless 1.00

00:26:26.140 of race.

00:26:27.080 But the flip side of that, Barbara, is there's no affirmative action either.

00:26:30.840 So you know if you're the best basketball player in America, if you're the best baseball

00:26:35.420 player, you earned it.

00:26:37.260 And everyone in the stadium saw it with their eyes.

00:26:40.560 You didn't get a head start because you were this race or that gender. 0.99

00:26:45.060 One of the reasons why people can, I think, admire sports heroes is because they see the

00:26:51.420 pure achievement and it's fair.

00:26:54.820 It's not head starts.

00:26:56.960 It's not quotas.

00:26:58.120 It's not tokenism.

00:26:59.580 And this destroys the essence of sport.

00:27:02.120 This is something philosophical, too.

00:27:04.100 It's not just biological and political.

00:27:06.000 This is not what sports is.

00:27:07.560 I totally agree with you, and I think I would love to see what really bothers me is that

00:27:14.200 the biological males who are winning in women's sports, they know that even if you gave them

00:27:23.320 all the testosterone they wanted, they would be middle of the pack or much further back in

00:27:30.020 competing against men.

00:27:33.580 So, you know, the reason she's posting all over the Internet, you know, social media,

00:27:39.620 oh, this is a world record.

00:27:41.280 This is new.

00:27:41.980 This is and nobody's getting excited about it because people in their hearts know that

00:27:47.340 this so-called record is meaningless.

00:27:50.280 It's as meaningless as somebody who wins any other competition when they're on steroids or

00:27:56.980 that's why people don't want drugs in sports because, you know, you want a level playing

00:28:02.660 field.

00:28:03.380 And I'm sorry, you know, lowering the testosterone may reduce the capacity somewhat, but it is

00:28:09.680 not the whole story.

00:28:11.500 So female athletes, they have to speak their minds and not be political correct about this. 1.00

00:28:17.880 I want to show you two images from social media.

00:28:20.380 First is the biography that Rachel McKinnon puts on his.

00:28:25.220 And I'm you know what?

00:28:26.220 I'm sorry.

00:28:26.700 I don't want to say her.

00:28:27.600 I don't want to go along with the emperor has no clothes because because this person is

00:28:31.940 making an issue out of it.

00:28:33.320 So on his biography, he says strident feminist, strident feminist.

00:28:40.640 And then show the Instagram picture again, because here's the point I want to make.

00:28:44.040 So in the in the picture, not not these hashtags, show the image itself, if you please, because

00:28:51.540 you have Rachel McKinnon, which is what the transgender man standing between two women. 1.00

00:28:58.660 How long until all three people on the podium are transgender men?

00:29:04.820 I'd say not long at all, because it won't be long.

00:29:08.180 You know, that's a good point.

00:29:09.500 That's a good point.

00:29:10.220 And then and how is that a strident feminist? 1.00

00:29:12.300 I'm sorry, that's not a strident.

00:29:13.320 That's that's a wolf in sheep's clothes.

00:29:14.840 That's a Trojan horse of a feminist using the word feminism to destroy women's sport. 1.00

00:29:19.160 When all three people on the podium are transgender men, who the hell is going to watch that? 1.00

00:29:22.980 Who the hell is going to enter that sports league?

00:29:25.100 It's it's it's just absurd.

00:29:26.900 It's ridiculous.

00:29:27.560 And slowly but surely, look, you have transgender men, women going into women's prisons, you know, into rape shelters. 0.97

00:29:39.660 You can't you can't keep pushing this idea of inclusivity and this idea of a social construct.

00:29:46.520 You can push it so far, but no further.

00:29:49.640 This this idea that gender and biology are completely detached. 0.96

00:29:53.740 It's going to show up in some in women as a category, as a biological category becoming totally erased. 1.00

00:30:02.500 And, you know, me, Ezra, I'm no feminist, but I'm on the side of the radical feminists on this one.

00:30:08.120 And they they feel themselves being erased as a unique category, a biological category.

00:30:16.500 And they are. And that's and and actually you bring up a very good point.

00:30:22.260 One day we will see three trans women on the podium and and that will be the end of women's sports. 1.00

00:30:28.880 That'll be the end unless they do something about it now.

00:30:31.940 I want to close with a point I made in the beginning.

00:30:34.460 And you saw that little clip where, oh, this is not about sport.

00:30:38.960 This is about human rights. I hear two things there.

00:30:42.140 I hear, first of all, a subtle legal threat.

00:30:45.460 Because what's a right? A right is something that you have that you can take action on, that you can that you can execute, that you can seek.

00:30:52.640 You can have a grievance. Your right has been infringed.

00:30:55.360 You have a grievance. You can go and get equity.

00:30:57.840 You can get some court to set you right.

00:31:00.160 I take this as a threat that if any league were to speak, because if it was about sport, this Rachel McKinnon is going to lose the argument every time because we're not stupid. 0.60

00:31:11.120 Just because he says, oh, no, men don't have an advantage.

00:31:14.240 No one believes that.

00:31:16.060 It's like Elizabeth Warren saying she's aboriginal.

00:31:18.900 No one believes it.

00:31:20.620 But in this case, she at least Elizabeth Warren isn't saying I'm a Cherokee Indian.

00:31:26.480 And if you don't believe me, I'm going to take you to a human rights commission.

00:31:29.900 That's the other. That's the punctuation mark.

00:31:33.120 That's the exclamation point at the end here.

00:31:35.340 I'm I'm a woman. This is fair.

00:31:38.040 This is a human rights case.

00:31:39.640 And if you don't agree with me, I'll see you in court.

00:31:41.740 That's the unspoken threat.

00:31:43.260 That's what I think, because that's popping up all over Canada.

00:31:45.960 These absurd transgender demands to go to, you know, aesthetics. 1.00

00:31:50.360 Yeah. And our own our own parliament is encouraging that by passing bills that are very vague in their meaning, like C-16, which incorporates gender expression as a human right.

00:32:05.520 And what does gender expression mean?

00:32:07.680 Does it mean the right for biological males to compete against biological females?

00:32:12.500 You know, we don't know because nothing was specified.

00:32:15.280 So trans activists have taken heart from this.

00:32:19.400 And and this is the language of human rights courts, too.

00:32:22.800 You know, you remember the stupid case of the trans woman who wanted the Brazilian wax, the Manzilian. 1.00

00:32:29.060 These are the kind of cases that show just how ill-defined this whole idea of what gender expression really means.

00:32:36.260 Yeah. Well, it's out of control.

00:32:38.400 And it's very rare that you're even allowed to have this conversation.

00:32:41.980 I have seen no other issue, Barbara, not even Islam. 1.00

00:32:45.480 It's very difficult to have an honest conversation about Islam in most media.

00:32:50.320 You get shut down. You get called an Islamophobe.

00:32:52.980 But the transgenderism issue, my observation, just by following media and politics, is that there is even less tolerance for politically incorrect comments.

00:33:03.040 In fact, the conversation you and I have here, I don't think it would even be allowed on most other media.

00:33:09.540 Let me close on that note.

00:33:11.040 Do you agree with me that the viciousness of the mob on this issue is the harshest anywhere, even more than on Islam? 0.77

00:33:17.780 Absolutely. I've never I follow it on social media and it is vicious.

00:33:25.220 These trans activists are they are scary as hell. 1.00

00:33:27.900 And you're quite right. Most media do not want to touch it.

00:33:32.680 And I have to be extremely careful what I say about it in my normal publication outlets.

00:33:37.280 And I am very careful about it.

00:33:39.060 But even so, I can just feel the tension around it every time I I do write about it.

00:33:43.660 I know that there's a lot of nervousness in case there's blowback.

00:33:48.360 And boy, are they ever organized.

00:33:50.680 Yeah. Well, I just think that this will, like you say, reach a breaking point.

00:33:54.580 And I stand by my prediction. It'll be a matter of months, years, if not months.

00:34:00.520 Well, I hope it comes soon because then it'll force the issue.

00:34:04.200 In a way, you should hope for that so that we can truly see the emperor has no clothes, you know,

00:34:10.480 and reveal this movement in all its absurdity.

00:34:14.440 Yeah. Barbara, thanks for taking the time with us today. I appreciate it.

00:34:18.040 Thanks for having me, Ezra.

00:34:19.140 All right. There you have it. Barbara Kay, a columnist with The National Post.

00:34:22.660 Stay with us. More Ahead on The Rebel.

00:34:24.580 Hey, welcome back. On my monologue yesterday about a transgendered man winning a women's sports event, Tammy writes,

00:34:42.700 female athletes should be more vocal and demand their governing bodies intervene and put a stop to this and do it now. 1.00

00:34:48.200 Well, I agree, Tammy, but they're going to be sued.

00:34:50.800 You heard Dr. Rachel McKinnon.

00:34:54.140 This is a human rights issue, which when I hear that, having been prosecuted by the Human Rights Commission for publishing some cartoons a decade ago,

00:35:00.920 I hear you're going to be sued.

00:35:03.580 And you doubt, you doubt there'd be a lawsuit.

00:35:07.140 Dan writes,

00:35:07.660 way to stand up and call a spade a spade on the ugly and embarrassing transgender scam in sports, Ezra. 1.00

00:35:13.660 Well, look, as we talked with Barbara Kay today, let there be a league for folks like this.

00:35:19.240 It's it's and I thought she made a good point.

00:35:20.940 There's a reason why we love sportsmanship.

00:35:23.040 There's a reason why we don't like doping.

00:35:24.880 There's a reason, as I put it, we have different weight categories and boxing, different age categories,

00:35:28.900 because we want it to be a fair sport.

00:35:31.640 We want it to be fair.

00:35:33.260 That's why we don't have adults competing against kids, because it's not sport then.

00:35:38.000 It's shooting fish in a barrel then.

00:35:40.000 That ain't sport. 0.69

00:35:42.320 And he writes,

00:35:43.860 why would any woman even participate in this competition, given the evident man size of their competitor? 1.00

00:35:48.400 Well, that's the thing.

00:35:49.960 I mean, don't tell me there's no biological, physiological difference.

00:35:53.100 That's just kooky, crazy stuff.

00:35:54.720 I mean, I understand what a transvestite is that comes from the word to dress differently.

00:36:00.220 I understand transgenderism as well, but you cannot change your innate DNA and biology.

00:36:06.680 You cannot do it.

00:36:07.860 And if you cut things off and inject yourself with hormones, you are still a man.

00:36:12.420 I'm sorry that you can't change yourself innately.

00:36:16.700 It's something we all wrestle with in life, isn't it?

00:36:19.660 In one way or another.

00:36:20.840 On my interview with Alessandro Bocci, Andrew writes,

00:36:26.680 the rest of Europe can learn a thing or two from Italy.

00:36:29.540 I think you're right, I tell you.

00:36:32.680 Italy, Victor Orban in Hungary,

00:36:36.860 Sebastian Kurz from Austria,

00:36:39.340 even Nigel Farage in the UK.

00:36:41.500 He's not, he's just a member of the European Parliament,

00:36:43.360 but he did win the referendum.

00:36:46.340 Marine Le Pen in second in France,

00:36:48.520 Geert Wilders second in Holland,

00:36:51.200 the Alternative for Deutschland getting seats in Bavaria this week.

00:36:55.900 I think there's a move afoot,

00:36:57.840 and you wouldn't know it if you watched the CBC.

00:36:59.980 If you got your news from the CBC, the Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star,

00:37:04.800 you would not, you either would not know about Matteo Salvini and the Italian government,

00:37:10.180 you either wouldn't know about it,

00:37:11.240 or you would be told that they're racist, anti-Semitic, far-right, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:16.460 What was so interesting for me in Alessandro's interview

00:37:19.120 was that she said it was a coalition between the right and the left,

00:37:22.560 the establishment right and left.

00:37:24.620 And I learned that.

00:37:25.780 I didn't know that.

00:37:26.340 I followed this Matteo Salvini on Twitter.

00:37:28.540 He's a riot.

00:37:29.180 He's like following Trump on Twitter.

00:37:30.560 You got to do it.

00:37:32.060 But yeah, I think,

00:37:34.260 I want more reports from Alessandro.

00:37:36.080 I'm talking to her a little bit.

00:37:36.980 And I like her style.

00:37:37.920 She's smart.

00:37:38.620 She's contrarian, but not too far out there.

00:37:41.880 And she speaks great English.

00:37:43.800 So hopefully we can get some more reports from her from Italy.

00:37:46.480 Anyway, that's the show for today.

00:37:47.640 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:37:49.540 to you at home, good night.

00:37:50.960 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:38:07.740 Thank you.

00:38:08.300 Thank you.

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00:38:18.620 .

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Rebel News Podcast - October 19, 2018

World Economic Forum calls Trump’s America the most competitive country — while Canada drops to #12

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