Rebel News Podcast - The China Files Go Viral

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today I give you a recap of the day after we released our top secret Canadian

00:00:05.840 military documents showing the close participation between the Canadian Armed Forces

00:00:10.380 and China's People's Liberation Army. It's interesting, the political reaction,

00:00:15.340 even more the media reaction, who's upset about this and who couldn't care less.

00:00:20.080 I'll also tell you how we're trying to talk to the Conservative Party about the subject,

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00:00:50.160 Okay, here's the show.

00:00:58.500 Tonight, the China Files go viral. It's December 10th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:13.960 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:17.460 Well, there's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:21.760 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:26.660 right to do so.

00:01:32.840 Well, I'm going today with just some written notes on a piece of paper. It's been another

00:01:37.520 incredibly busy day. We're talking about the China Files. What are those? Well, we have a

00:01:43.480 little website called thechinaphiles.com where you can see for yourself 34 pages of secret

00:01:50.280 Canadian military documents. I say they're secret because they are marked secret, and they were

00:01:56.920 supposed to be blacked out before being sent to us, but for whatever reason, they weren't blacked out.

00:02:02.680 They were just grayed out. They're completely readable, and in fact, the gray parts are what

00:02:08.780 the government obviously thinks are the most interesting parts. Was this an accident, or was

00:02:14.560 this someone inside the government trying to get information out? Don't laugh. We know in the past

00:02:21.060 when damaging information about Justin Trudeau has been released to the CBC or CTV or Global,

00:02:28.580 they sit on it. Anyone who gave us information would be sure we would publish it in the public

00:02:34.380 interest. I'll give you the example of the Trudeau blackface photos that every journalist in Ottawa

00:02:40.240 seemed to have a copy of, but they didn't publish until an American source did so. So we published the

00:02:46.920 China Files, and if you haven't read them yet, I encourage you to do so. All 34 pages are available

00:02:52.820 at thechinaphiles.com. And if you're a little bit daunted, let me invite you to read the first two

00:02:58.980 pages and the last two pages. They're the easiest to understand. The first two pages are just the

00:03:06.080 calendar of the activities of the Chinese embassy in Beijing. You can see that even after China

00:03:14.360 kidnapped two Canadian hostages, Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, it was business as usual.

00:03:20.780 Cabinet ministers like Catherine McKenna jetting in for global warming parties. The Canadian Armed Forces

00:03:27.280 sending nearly 200 troops to a propaganda exercise in China, it was like nothing had changed after the

00:03:34.600 kidnapping. The second part that's easy to understand and even more infuriating is the last

00:03:41.280 two pages of the document where you can see a list of all of the Canadian Armed Forces, People's Liberation

00:03:48.300 Army joint events, joint exercises, military exchanges. The big news yesterday was that Trudeau

00:03:56.600 did not want the military to cancel a winter warfare training session at CFB Petawawa in Ontario.

00:04:06.640 That's what started the whole battle within the military. The military didn't want to train

00:04:11.540 the Chinese at CFB Petawawa. The Trudeau side did and they had a battle about it. In the end,

00:04:18.340 as far as we know, that event was canceled. But as you can see in those last two pages,

00:04:22.820 there were 18 events. So at worst, only one was canceled and 17 more proceeded. Why are we training

00:04:35.820 one and two star Chinese generals at our military colleges in Ontario? It's an incredible question,

00:04:43.640 I think. Other people seem to think it's incredible too. As you can see, our website was visited hundreds

00:04:51.180 of thousands of times. And over 100,000 people watched our video on YouTube alone, plus many

00:04:58.700 more in other places like Twitter and Facebook. It's clearly the most important story we covered

00:05:04.320 of the year, maybe ever in the history of Rebel News. It feels that way to me. I'm very pleased

00:05:10.360 that the National Post and the Globe and Mail also covered the story. The Globe did some deep reporting

00:05:16.120 on it and did a very lengthy report in today's newspaper. The National Post sort of copied

00:05:21.120 a little bit of what the Globe did, a little bit of what we did. And that's fine. I don't believe

00:05:25.660 that we should own this story. It's in the public interest. That's why we put the entire primary

00:05:30.720 document, 34 pages on the internet. We want other journalists to carry it. Now, as far as I know,

00:05:37.760 at the time I'm recording this, the CDC has not said a word about it. Isn't that strange?

00:05:43.860 Anything leaks in the U.S. government that embarrasses Donald Trump, that's top of the

00:05:49.600 news for the CBC in Canada. And it doesn't have anything to do with us. But 34 pages about this

00:05:55.940 battle over China in our military? CBC doesn't care. Americans seem to care. They seem a little

00:06:04.640 unnerved at the idea that their northern neighbor, who they have helped defend throughout the Cold War

00:06:10.560 and the War on Terror. Their NORAD ally, their NATO ally, wants to train Chinese soldiers in Canadian

00:06:17.400 bases. You can see that Breitbart.com did a huge story on it. Theblaze.com, that's Glenn Beck's

00:06:25.000 project. Many other American websites wrote big pieces on it and linked to the primary documents.

00:06:30.860 Here in Canada, less so. I mentioned the Globe and the Post touched it. I was interviewed on the radio

00:06:38.220 by John Gormley today. But generally, it's been foreigners who seem to care more than the Canadian

00:06:45.680 press gallery. And I'll give you this as an example. This morning, Aaron O'Toole, the leader of the

00:06:50.540 Conservative opposition, had a press conference at 9 a.m. Eastern time on Parliament Hill. He invited all the

00:06:56.740 media, either in person or via phone call to participate. He made a brief statement about the

00:07:04.300 documents. I was pretty excited. I was following along because they were our documents. Six

00:07:10.020 journalists were chosen to ask questions. I'm not sure how they were chosen. I presume it's the

00:07:14.820 press gallery because two CBC reporters were chosen. Two Canadian press reporters were chosen.

00:07:21.640 Half the questions were in French. So I don't think it was a random selection.

00:07:25.720 But not one single question at a press conference about these documents, the day after the documents

00:07:34.040 were released, not one single question mentioned the documents. The reporters were incurious. They

00:07:42.780 support the Chinese government's position. Even if they support the Chinese government's position,

00:07:48.720 wouldn't they at least ask about the documents? None of them did. There were two questions put to

00:07:54.140 Aaron O'Toole about his criticism of China, but they were in the form of scolding him. One question

00:08:01.240 said, well, what about all our business opportunities? It was more a lobbying question for China. And then

00:08:07.500 this question, which sounded like a scold saying, hey, if you talk mean to Xi Jinping, he'll do bad

00:08:15.260 things to the two hostages. I'm not sure what he could do worse than holding them in prison for two

00:08:20.000 years. Take a look at this. This was how the, there was only two out of six questions that mentioned

00:08:24.980 China. None mentioned the records that we released yesterday. And here's a typical question from

00:08:31.220 today's press conference.

00:08:32.320 Thank you. Merci. The next question, la prochaine question is from Cormac McSweeney, CD News. Please go ahead.

00:08:37.780 Your line is open. We're turning it to Bert.

00:08:39.160 Yes, Mr. O'Toole. I just wanted to ask you a question that you were asked earlier in French, but I want to get

00:08:44.000 to on it in English. What would you have done differently to deal with China that would have left Canada in a

00:08:51.140 better situation than it is now in terms of the Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor case?

00:08:57.860 I would have been dealing with China with eyes wide open from day one. Mr. Trudeau has been dangerously naive.

00:09:03.920 Those are words of some of our former diplomats who've said that, and his close associations with

00:09:10.240 fundraising, the transition team, has him out of step with the reality of China. Even two years ago,

00:09:18.180 when the two Michaels were first taken hostage, he called them regular consular cases. We knew that

00:09:26.640 these weren't regular consular cases. We knew that this was diplomatic hostage taking, and we said that

00:09:32.180 should have been taken more seriously from the start. We remember his minister, his hand-picked

00:09:37.080 Mr. McCallum, contradicting himself, also trying to kowtow to Beijing. We would have looked to work

00:09:45.920 with the United States and other countries on a Magnitsky sanction approach. We want to resolve

00:09:52.020 disputes with China, but we have to show we're serious. We're willing to stand up for our citizens

00:09:57.780 and our values. And just as a follow-up, I want to get your direct reaction to the news this morning

00:10:06.660 that officials in Beijing have said that Michael Kobrig and Michael Spavor have already been indicted

00:10:13.240 and tried. And then just as a follow-up to your answer there, don't you think that sanctions at a

00:10:20.060 time like this would put them at even greater risk, given the situation that Kobrig and Spavor are in?

00:10:26.460 No. Two years of inaction and kowtowing by the Trudeau government has led to, as you said,

00:10:33.640 Cormac, the trial. There is no justice system in China. The show trial, the indictment of two 0.70

00:10:42.120 citizens, a weak and timid approach has failed. It is time to work with our allies and show that we're

00:10:50.160 going to have a more serious approach with respect to Beijing. I know that that will have a more

00:10:55.820 serious impact than the two years of waffling under Mr. Trudeau. Beijing thinks the Trudeau

00:11:02.860 government is weak and he proves them right at every step. So working with countries like Australia,

00:11:09.340 who has more at risk with respect to China and the United States, we must show a united front of

00:11:18.020 democratic countries that will say this type of conduct in terms of diplomatic hostage-taking,

00:11:25.040 in terms of the police state in Hong Kong, with respect to the internment of Uyghurs on the cover of

00:11:30.460 the Globe and Mail today. We cannot turn a blind eye to the reality of communist China. It's time for 0.92

00:11:37.200 Prime Minister Trudeau to wake up. Yeah, I think Canadian journalists are that incurious. They're that

00:11:44.240 tamed and trained. That's what happens when you slosh about $600 million to the newspapers and $1.5

00:11:52.760 billion to the CBC. They're house pets. They're house pets. They're not curious. Well, today in

00:11:59.200 question period, the Conservatives continued on the file. Of course, it's the two-year anniversary of the

00:12:04.180 kidnapping of the two Michaels. The Conservative Party asked Chrystia Freeland questions about that.

00:12:08.820 She had no good answer. But then James Bazan, a Conservative MP who's on the military file, asked

00:12:15.500 Harjeet Sajjan about the winter weather training that our U.S. allies and others complained about.

00:12:22.820 I want to show you the full exchange. Take a look at this. It'd be great, Mr. Speaker, if the

00:12:26.920 minister would actually answer the question. Yesterday, top-secret government documents revealed

00:12:31.080 that this Liberal government was a raid when our Chief of Defence Staff stopped Communist Chinese

00:12:35.080 troops from receiving winter warfare training on Canadian soil with our soldiers. Even after

00:12:40.440 acknowledging there were national security concerns raised by our Five Eye partners, the Liberal

00:12:44.680 government said there's still a desire to maintain an ongoing relationship with China. Why is the

00:12:50.200 Prime Minister bowing to the Chinese Communist regime and turning his back on our closest allies?

00:12:55.640 Mr. Speaker, our government will always stand up for Canadians at home and abroad, and this includes

00:13:05.480 our relationship with China. And let me be very clear, we do not train with the Chinese military.

00:13:10.360 But I understand the member's concern, Mr. Speaker, because it was a previous government that actually

00:13:15.160 signed a cooperation plan initiative in 2013 under Rob Nicholson when he was the Minister of National

00:13:21.080 Defence, and that member was a Parliamentary Secretary of Defence at that time. Thank you.

00:13:26.040 The Honourable Member for Selkirk, Interlake Eastman.

00:13:29.560 Mr. Speaker, the Defence Minister knows full well that the Chinese government back then to the

00:13:35.080 Chinese government today is completely different, and Canadians are shocked and outraged by the Prime

00:13:39.320 Minister cozying up to the regime in Beijing. That's his own, that even the Defence Minister accurately

00:13:45.320 described as being engaged in hostage diplomacy. We already know the Prime Minister naively admires the

00:13:50.600 Communist dictatorship and now wants to train Chinese troops at Garrison Petawawa so that they can learn

00:13:55.480 tactics that our five allies warned would cause a dangerous transfer of military knowledge. It is

00:14:01.480 sickening that the Prime Minister has complete disregard for our armed forces, our national security,

00:14:06.440 and our democratic way of life. The Honourable Minister. Mr. Speaker, because of the agreement that

00:14:14.200 they had signed, this is one of the reasons why we actually changed our approach, because of the

00:14:19.880 concerns that the member outlined, Mr. Speaker, because we will always stand up for two Canadians

00:14:25.960 who are arbitrarily detained. This is one of the reasons why we actually stopped our training with

00:14:30.760 the Chinese, Mr. Speaker, and this is exactly what we're doing. And I would ask the member right

00:14:36.200 now to stop turning this into a political issue, because that's exactly the steps that we have taken.

00:14:40.840 Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:14:42.200 Well, that looks pretty convincing, doesn't it? But if you're one of the hundreds of thousands of people who

00:14:47.000 have looked at the China files or watched the video, you'll know it was a lie. Stephen Harper did

00:14:54.200 not invite the Chinese spies to Canada for winter warfare training. Here's a tweet from the Canadian

00:15:01.240 Army about two years ago showing winter warfare training, a joint exercise between the Canadian

00:15:08.680 forces and the Chinese in China two years ago. And it was two years ago, according to this tweet,

00:15:15.960 that the invitation was made by the Liberal government to the People's Liberation Army to do

00:15:21.560 it again next year at CFB Petawawa. It's right on there where they were going to do it. That would

00:15:27.800 be quite a feat for Stephen Harper, who left office in 2015 to make an invitation to China three years

00:15:35.320 later in 2018. It wasn't Harper who did it. It was Harjit Sajjan and Justin Trudeau. And it's a little bit

00:15:41.960 outrageous for Sajjan to take credit for canceling it. When in fact, as we saw in the records, it was

00:15:48.040 the Liberal government that was pressuring the military to keep it going and demanded that no

00:15:53.400 other activities be canceled. Like I said, the very last two pages of these 34 pages in the records

00:16:00.440 show there were 18 joint exchanges and training sessions between the People's Liberation Army and the

00:16:07.800 Canadian Armed Forces in 2019. 18 of them. Only one was canceled over the objections of the Liberals.

00:16:16.600 I think this is an important story. We still haven't heard from any other people on it. We

00:16:21.320 haven't heard from the government of India that is probably wondering why we would be training China

00:16:26.840 in how to fight in winter conditions when right now India and China are battling in the high Himalayas.

00:16:32.920 I wonder what they say democracy activists for Tibet and the Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. I wonder how

00:16:38.920 they feel about this sort of training. What does the United States Department of Defense have to say?

00:16:44.120 What does NATO have to say? I think we're going to have to be the ones who ask that question because

00:16:49.400 if this morning's press conference is anything to go by, the media party doesn't care.

00:16:54.680 Now, I should tell you that I personally reached out to Aaron O'Toole to interview him on the subject.

00:16:59.640 Pretty straightforward questions. The kind of questions that he probably wished he got this

00:17:03.720 morning instead of the scoldy questions from the media party. I also reached out twice to James

00:17:09.480 Bazan. I'll let you know if they ever get back to me. So far, Mr. O'Toole's press secretary has said

00:17:15.640 he's too busy. I wrote back asking if he really is too busy and that's fine. I'll talk to his critic on

00:17:21.880 the subject. Or if this is a continuation of the wrongheaded Andrew Scheer policy of simply

00:17:28.760 not talking to Rebel News. I don't think that worked out for Andrew Scheer. It didn't ingratiate him

00:17:34.680 with the press gallery, with the media party who loved sticking their knives into him. And it missed

00:17:40.120 the opportunity of Andrew Scheer revving up the conservative base, which is one of our large audiences.

00:17:45.400 Aaron O'Toole had no success in his press conference this morning. In fact, it was a

00:17:51.240 negative success. He was scolded by the media. If he were to come on Rebel News or one of his deputies,

00:17:57.800 we would ask him straightforward questions. I'll tell you what one of them is right now.

00:18:01.640 Do you think we should cancel any of the other 17 exchanges? No gotcha questions. Nothing embarrassing.

00:18:06.840 I wonder what he'll do, but in another way, I don't really care, because I know what we'll do.

00:18:14.600 We'll continue telling the other side of the story, doing important research, breaking massive

00:18:20.520 international scoops, which this story is. I look forward to talking to MPs of any stripe about this

00:18:27.480 subject, conservatives, or if a liberal even wanted to talk about it, which I would understand why they

00:18:32.920 wouldn't. We'll continue to be the best independent source of journalism in this country, as we were

00:18:40.040 before Aaron O'Toole and likely will be after him. I hope he comes on the show, though. Joining me now to

00:18:46.200 talk about this is our friend Spencer Fernando.

00:18:49.000 Welcome back. Well, as you can see in thechinafiles.com, that's where I recommend you go to read all 34

00:19:06.360 unredacted pages. Actually, the first two pages and the last two pages are the easiest to understand. The

00:19:13.480 first two are just a calendar for all the activities of the Beijing embassy. It shows Catherine McKenna

00:19:19.720 flying in for a party. It shows the military games where 200 Canadian soldiers were sent to Wuhan in

00:19:26.120 October. Very easy to make sense if it's a calendar. The last two pages are equally incredible. It's a

00:19:33.480 list of the 18 military exchanges with the People's Liberation Army and the Canadian Armed Forces.

00:19:41.800 One of those 18 was canceled under pressure from the Americans. The other 17

00:19:50.680 proceeded. Well, let me read you a great headline, my favorite headline on the whole matter, and it's

00:19:56.280 from our friend Spencer Fernando who writes,

00:19:59.160 In a sane world, Trudeau wanting communist China's troops on Canadian soil would be the end of his

00:20:06.280 political career. And joining me now via Skype from Winnipeg is Spencer Fernando. Great to see

00:20:11.720 again. You're so right. Reading that, it just clicked. Yeah, but no one's even suggesting that.

00:20:17.400 Not in the media, not in the opposition. Am I right?

00:20:20.920 Yeah, it just goes to show how far I think we've gone in accepting things that are unacceptable in

00:20:25.480 this country. And, you know, in a way, Trudeau kind of primed everybody for this right from the

00:20:30.360 beginning, even before he was elected. You know, I bring it up every time. But we remember when he said

00:20:35.240 that he admired China's basic dictatorship and people said, oh, he's joking or it was a dumb 0.97

00:20:39.560 comment. Everything that we've seen since then shows that he was being quite serious about that.

00:20:44.200 Yeah. I mean, Trudeau may have a prankster side to him, but he's not particularly funny or ironic.

00:20:51.400 When he says something, I think he means it. When he said he admired China's basic dictatorship,

00:20:57.320 I mean, he may have quickly realized that was a dumb thing to say, but he wasn't being funny.

00:21:01.720 He wasn't being sarcastic. He wasn't being ironic. He actually believes that what these documents show

00:21:07.320 is that that idea has trickled into the whole foreign affairs establishment. That's what it looks

00:21:12.360 like to me. Yeah. And I think this goes with a lot of their instincts anyway. You know, I've said before,

00:21:18.920 I just spoke to Carleen Nation earlier and I mentioned how, you know, we in this country,

00:21:23.880 there's an attitude a lot of people seem to have, which is that Canada should always be subservient.

00:21:28.440 We should always be weak. We should always give in. And they start from a point of weakness. And so

00:21:32.840 I think, you know, that's obviously Trudeau's attitude when it comes to China. And then it's

00:21:37.080 the attitude of much of the establishment. What's interesting though, is that that weakness for

00:21:41.000 some reason doesn't extend to countries that actually share our values. I mean, you look at

00:21:44.520 Trudeau, he's happy to lecture India about protesting there. He's happy to lecture the United States,

00:21:50.360 you know, a country more powerful than China and right next to us. So it's interesting,

00:21:54.920 they only seem afraid or cowardly when it comes to China, but when it comes to our allies,

00:21:59.240 countries that actually share our values, they seem tougher for some reason.

00:22:02.520 You know, that's a great point. And I should say that the idea of winter warfare training,

00:22:08.360 who would be the possible victim of Chinese winter warfare? Well, God forbid,

00:22:12.600 it could be Canada, the United States, but that's unlikely in the near future. But even as we speak,

00:22:17.800 China and India are having a slow burn battle high in the mountain heights of the Himalayas. So

00:22:23.400 that's practical military knowledge that would be transferred to fight against our friends in

00:22:30.760 India. It's very troubling. Hey, let me ask you about something. Earlier today, 1.00

00:22:35.560 Erin O'Toole, the Conservative Party leader, had a press conference specifically about these records.

00:22:41.960 And I tuned in to listen. There were six questions asked, half in French, half in English. The CBC had

00:22:48.520 two, Canadian press said two. A couple of them were about China. They were more scolding Erin O'Toole

00:22:55.080 for suggesting we should get tough. One of the questions was something like, well, don't you know

00:23:00.200 that's going to provoke China? They'll be even worse. But other than those that just were scolding 0.97

00:23:05.560 O'Toole on China, not a single question, Spencer, made reference to these records. Now,

00:23:13.720 I'm biased because it was us who got the records and us who published us. So I'm excited about that

00:23:19.080 personal aspect. But putting that aside, it is quite staggering to have 34 secret military pages

00:23:26.200 that show this. Help me understand why not a single member of the Ottawa Press Gallery

00:23:33.160 thought it was worth even asking about.

00:23:34.840 Well, I think there's probably three reasons. The first, I would say, is that a lot of these companies

00:23:40.760 are owned by big, you know, in some cases, many media companies that are owned by corporations that

00:23:46.040 probably have interest in getting close to China, right? So that's part of it. The second reason would

00:23:51.240 be the usual covering for Justin Trudeau, which the media has been doing for some time. And then the

00:23:55.000 third reason is, you know, a lot of the kind of identity politics stuff where you see a lot of the

00:23:59.720 people in the media and they think any criticism of the Chinese Communist Party is somehow racism,

00:24:03.880 even though, of course, the first and the biggest victims of the Chinese Communist Party are people

00:24:08.680 living in China, right? And then actually people living in Canada as well, you know, people,

00:24:13.080 Chinese people who've come to Canada for a better life. And now they're being harassed and threatened.

00:24:17.000 They're having their family members threatened. They're being coerced within Canada by agents of

00:24:21.240 the Chinese Communist Party. So it's all those things together. And I think they just,

00:24:26.280 you know, there's kind of been this attitude where people don't want us to have an enemy or don't

00:24:30.120 want us to have a country that we oppose to that has different values. And they can't really see

00:24:34.200 when that started to happen. They can't see that China's an adversary. They can't see that China,

00:24:38.440 the Chinese Communist Party, their interests are directly against the interests of Canada,

00:24:42.600 the United States, our allies, you know, countries with similar values.

00:24:46.200 And China's a lot different than it was even, you know, four or five years ago,

00:24:49.480 it's moving in a very concerning direction. So I think it's a mix of people who are either compromised

00:24:54.120 or naive and just some kind of a whole bunch of those things all at once.

00:24:58.200 Yeah. I think you're, you're right on with all three of those, the money, like the Bloomberg media,

00:25:03.960 for example, totally invested in China, Disney, the entertainers always looking at China, the NBA,

00:25:10.120 anyone in entertainment, anyone who wants eyeballs loves China and will shut up about politics.

00:25:15.320 You're so right about Trudeau sympathizers. They don't want to upset

00:25:18.920 the Young Prince and just the ethnic politics. You're spot on with those. Last I checked, 0.99

00:25:26.040 now I haven't checked in the last hour, but the last I checked, the CBC has yet to even mention

00:25:33.720 these records. Maybe you've seen something in the last hour or so, but the Globe and Mail ran with it

00:25:38.760 pretty big. The National Post mentioned it. I actually did some radio in Canada. It did pop up in question,

00:25:47.080 period. But from what I've seen, unless that's changed in the last hour, the CBC is going quiet

00:25:53.240 about secret documents. That's got to be a first. Yeah. And I don't think people would be too surprised,

00:26:01.160 to be honest. I mean, CBC tries to cover for Trudeau quite often and they try to cover for the

00:26:06.360 establishment. It's not just about them being pro-Trudeau, but they're pro the kind of establishment

00:26:10.760 that's in power in the country. So this is obviously embarrassing for the establishment to have

00:26:14.920 this exposed and concerning. So CBC will try to either slow walk it or just not cover it at all.

00:26:21.080 But at the end of the day, they don't get too many views to be honest. So if they don't cover it,

00:26:26.360 most people are still going to see it anyway. Yeah. Isn't that the truth? You're just killing

00:26:29.640 it on Twitter these days. I love following you on Twitter. You're very fast also. You're fast on the

00:26:35.720 news, which I really appreciate. I love SpencerFernando.com. And I'd like to say to my viewers,

00:26:41.560 and we've said this every time Spencer's on, every time our friends from True North are on,

00:26:45.640 there are only a small number of truly independent journalists in Canada who don't take the Trudeau

00:26:51.320 money. And so while I deeply appreciate your support for Rebel News, if you have a few extra bucks,

00:26:57.640 it's very valuable to have other voices that are independent like Spencer Fernando.

00:27:03.160 And may I encourage you just to check out his website. Spencer, tell us before you go,

00:27:06.920 is there anything you're working on right now? Is there something you're looking into or

00:27:11.480 researching or covering or you just recently published you want to tell our viewers about?

00:27:16.040 Yeah, I'll be writing more about the China story, obviously, or what Aaron O'Toole is saying,

00:27:20.360 how the media is covering it. I think that's kind of the big story right now.

00:27:23.880 But I think the interesting thing is going to be how Canadians react to it. There's definitely been,

00:27:30.200 in the past, foreign policy doesn't play a big role in Canadian elections. I think that's going to

00:27:34.520 change. You know, people who normally don't follow foreign policy, which is, I mean, most of us even,

00:27:39.320 including myself quite often, the way China's treated our own citizens, the way they're treating 1.00

00:27:43.560 this country. And now what Trudeau is doing, I think a lot of people are starting to wake up

00:27:47.240 to the fact that something's seriously wrong here. So we'll see. But I think it's going to be interesting

00:27:51.480 to see how this affects the upcoming election. Well, I hope you're right. I hope people do wake up to

00:27:56.920 it. Spencer, great to see you. Thanks for joining us today. No problem. All right, there you have it,

00:28:01.720 Spencer Fernando from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:28:17.960 Hey, welcome back. On The China Files, Brian writes, Trump was right again when he called Trudeau

00:28:22.840 Two-Faced and Canada a security threat. Oh, I hate to say it, but you're right. What's frustrating is

00:28:29.000 that Trudeau's views seem to have trickled down throughout the entire bureaucracy. Sharon writes,

00:28:34.920 why wouldn't we be training the Chinese army? There are overlords. We need to teach them how to be 1.00

00:28:40.200 more efficiently defeat us. You know, it's like that movie from the Cold War. I don't know if you

00:28:44.360 remember it called Red Dawn, where America was invaded with Russians and Cubans. That's how it feels a little

00:28:51.160 bit. Brett writes, and crickets from the CBC, as you predicted, Ezra. What a disgraceful media.

00:28:57.800 Yeah, I mean, the CBC runs interference for the Chinese Communist Party all the time. Years ago,

00:29:02.920 I remember they were attacking democracy activists in the Falun Gong, like smearing them. It was so 0.84

00:29:08.200 malicious. I thought, who is calling the shots there at the CBC? But you know, state broadcasters

00:29:14.840 tend to act alike, whether they're Pravda, Xinhua, or the CBC. That's why you just can't trust them.

00:29:22.600 And unfortunately, these days, most of the media are on the government payroll. Well,

00:29:27.000 that's our show for today. You got to go to the chinafiles.com if you haven't yet. It's

00:29:30.760 it's the document. I grant you some parts of it are hard to read. But that calendar at the beginning,

00:29:35.640 and that list of 18 exchange programs at the end, that's very easy to read. You got to read it.

00:29:40.040 All right, my friends, till next time. Good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - December 11, 2020

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