Rebel News Podcast - August 14, 2019


The mainstream media promotes a fake news hoax about Andrew Scheer — and refuses to apologize when caught


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The mainstream media spreads a fake news hoax about Andrew Scheer, and they refuse to apologize when caught when they see it. It's a hate crime hoax about a woman holding a sign pretending to be a supporter of the Conservative Party of Canada.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today's podcast is about a hoax, a hate crime hoax, a young woman standing
00:00:08.040 in downtown Toronto, shrieking at a passerby, shrieking against immigrants and walking up to
00:00:13.860 a fellow and spitting on him, all while holding a sign pretending to be for Andrew Scheer. Well,
00:00:19.000 it takes about 30 seconds to debunk that and see it's a hoaxer who's actually a pro-immigration,
00:00:25.240 hard left-wing activist trying to frame and smear Andrew Scheer. Well, the media went along with
00:00:30.680 that. I'll tell you the story. I'll let you listen to it in full. But I got to tell you,
00:00:34.200 this is one of those times when a podcast just won't do it justice. You got to see
00:00:38.080 what the video looks like. It's quite something. It's quite something. And that's where
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00:00:59.420 Gunn-Reeds and David Menzies. All right, without further to do, here's today's podcast.
00:01:04.300 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast. Tonight, the mainstream media promotes a fake
00:01:10.060 news hoax about Andrew Scheer, and they refuse to apologize when caught. It's August 13th,
00:01:15.680 and this is The Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:17.160 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:23.000 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:27.060 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:31.940 right to do so.
00:01:38.040 I saw this video I'm going to show you in a second. It was published by a Liberal Toronto
00:01:43.020 blog called BlogTO, and it came to my attention because my former colleague from the Sun News
00:01:49.040 Network, David Akin, tweeted it. David is now the chief political reporter at Global News. So he's
00:01:54.960 at one of the highest peaks of the media party. So when he tweets something, it's really the voice of
00:02:00.860 the political establishment. So here's the video. Now, I want to warn you, there's a lot of swearing
00:02:05.040 here and then some spitting. So you're going to hear the F word a few times. There's another bad word
00:02:11.560 that was bleeped out by BlogTO. I don't even know what that word is. But I'm going to play
00:02:17.420 it with the F word still on bleep because I think it's important to know what we're talking
00:02:21.260 about here. So if you don't want to hear that swearer, please turn down your volume for the
00:02:25.200 next minute, okay? Here's the video.
00:02:26.860 Hmm. Now what do you think of that? Yeah, I'm going to play it again since it's pretty short.
00:02:56.800 And I'm going to talk about different elements of it. So swears again, all right? So turn
00:03:01.380 down the volume if you don't like swears. What do you think of this? One more time.
00:03:04.060 I can't believe you're real. You're actually real. You're real.
00:03:16.340 You know, maybe the only voice, the only honest voice there is the cameraman. I can't believe
00:03:34.460 you're real, he says again and again. And that's what I thought immediately too. It's too on the
00:03:40.460 nose. I'm sorry, it's just too perfect. If that were a Hollywood script in some movie,
00:03:45.660 a producer would say, you know, it's too obvious. There's a little more nuance. I mean, the sign,
00:03:50.840 hand-painted, vote Andrew Scheer, but not a real lawn sign, which probably any Conservative
00:03:56.360 Party member would have quick access to. Hand-painted and displaying that sign while being extremely
00:04:03.680 vulgar and offensive. I'm sorry, it's just too fake. No one who actually wanted to promote Andrew
00:04:10.160 Scheer would really do that because no one who really wanted to promote Andrew Scheer would think
00:04:15.620 that's how to win hearts and minds, to persuade people. That's how to win votes. No one is that
00:04:20.920 nuts. Even if someone were that vile, were not just rude, but I think there was some racism there,
00:04:26.660 even though I think it was bleeped out. But no one, even if they really thought those thoughts that
00:04:31.900 that woman expressed, no one would think that they would persuade a member of the general public. I
00:04:37.320 mean, spitting. So obviously, no one could believe that spitting on someone would be a good ad for a
00:04:45.960 political party. Same with the swearing. It's just too much. It immediately reminded me of other hoaxes
00:04:51.140 and other fakes, like the hijab hoax girl. Remember her in Toronto, 11-year-old girl who claimed that
00:04:56.920 she was attacked by a Chinese man twice, by the way, who allegedly was carrying around scissors,
00:05:02.960 by the way, who cut her hijab, by the way, without saying a word, by the way. And no one else saw him,
00:05:09.980 by the way. And he was careful enough not to poke her with the scissors, by the way. And she was happy
00:05:15.520 to do a national press conference from an elementary school, because apparently that happens all the
00:05:20.200 time, 11-year-olds holding national press conferences in elementary schools, right after
00:05:25.000 they're attacked and the attacker's still on the loose. And the younger brother comes to the press
00:05:28.960 conference, too, and is just laughing and joking around. Yeah, that was fake. Just as fake as when
00:05:35.700 that leftist actor, Jussie Smollett, claimed that he was attacked at 3 a.m. by some rednecks who were
00:05:43.440 walking around Chicago with a noose and some bleach, apparently, as one does at 3 a.m. in Chicago
00:05:52.200 while wearing trump hats. And apparently they watch an obscure black-oriented TV show and know
00:05:57.940 an actor who plays an obscure role on that show. And they saw the actor and they attacked him because
00:06:03.740 they had a noose and bleach around with them. And they put the noose around Jussie Smollett's neck
00:06:07.780 and splashed bleach on him. But Jussie Smollett fought them off and they ran. And the whole time
00:06:13.100 he was holding on to his Subway sandwich and never dropped it. That was my favorite detail
00:06:18.420 in the story. Yeah, no, that was a hoax, too.
00:06:22.980 So I thought of both of those things, because this is fake, fake, fakety-fake. It didn't even make sense.
00:06:29.040 This is a place of men. What does that mean? Have you ever heard a conservative even say that? A
00:06:37.480 conservative woman, no less? I don't get it. Walking up to a man and calling him a savage 0.96
00:06:43.460 while acting savagely herself and saying, you want to effing fight me? You want to effing... What? 1.00
00:06:50.060 Who does that? And spitting on someone? Do you know anyone who does that while pretending
00:06:56.000 to be a conservative party supporter dressed in a smart dress and a hat with a sign? 0.99
00:06:59.880 I'm sorry, I'm just not that stupid. Or maybe you need to be extremely smart to figure that all out. 0.99
00:07:04.860 I don't believe it. It's not real for a second.
00:07:08.840 So obviously, I can't believe I have to say it. It is what it looks like.
00:07:14.420 That is a leftist's idea of what conservatives think and say and do. A leftist's caricature of the
00:07:22.340 right. But a very ill-informed character. A very poor mimicry. Someone who obviously has
00:07:27.480 never actually met or spoken with a real conservative and thinks that's how conservatives
00:07:32.060 are. That is so weird. But just like that woman in that video obviously hates conservatives and 1.00
00:07:38.200 obviously did this smear on conservatives to defame them. It's a hoax to blame conservatives. Well,
00:07:44.720 the media who reported this video, I think they know so little about conservatives and what
00:07:49.720 conservatives really think that they ran with it. They ran with it unskeptically. They said,
00:07:53.680 yeah, yeah, you know, that's how conservatives really are. And we always do it. And here's
00:07:57.420 finally proof of it. So BlogTO published it as news saying a woman was just caught on camera
00:08:05.620 screaming racial slurs outside Toronto City Hall. I mean, I guess that's technically true. That's not
00:08:10.520 a lie. But the lie was in the image and not disclosing that it's obviously a fake, a hoax,
00:08:16.640 a set up. Pictures absolutely can lie. In fact, they're the most powerful of lies because we
00:08:24.760 instantly see something. We instantly come to a judgment about it. You can't unsee that hand
00:08:30.440 painted sign for Andrew Scheer, can you? And so it's fused with this story in your mind. As of this
00:08:37.500 afternoon, that little video was seen about a half a million times on Twitter alone.
00:08:41.360 And like I say, I saw it via David Aiken. Here's what he tweeted. He has since deleted this tweet.
00:08:48.720 But here's a snapshot someone took of his tweet before he deleted. He said,
00:08:52.720 Scheer's opponents will shrug and say, well, of course, that's unfair, but that's politics. In the
00:08:58.300 meantime, Scheer would do well to go out of his way to denounce this kind of hatred and to do that
00:09:02.720 quickly. So David Aiken was not only giving great publicity to this hoax and putting zero effort
00:09:09.160 into scrutinizing and skeptically, doing no basic fact checks. He was also giving a prescription
00:09:14.100 this year. Hey, Andrew Scheer, you'd better react to this or you'll own it, says I. We all assume
00:09:20.560 this is who you really are. That's the default. So unless you stop what you're doing, stop talking
00:09:24.640 about what you're talking about and tell us for the empteenth time that you're not a racist,
00:09:27.720 we're going to assume you are, buddy.
00:09:28.780 No one on the left, Ezra, has to denounce the kooks who follow the left, real kooks who really 0.83
00:09:35.100 support them. But this obvious hoax has to be treated by Andrew Scheer as real, and Scheer
00:09:40.180 has to weigh in, thus taking the hoax one step further. Now, not only will a crude hand-painted
00:09:45.700 sign saying Andrew Scheer be fused to this tantrum, but Scheer's own face and voice will be.
00:09:51.280 Aiken is actually doing the hoaxer's work for her.
00:09:53.820 One last quick point before I tell you who this hoaxer really is. If you know anything
00:09:59.800 about Andrew Scheer's immigration policy, and I do, you would know that he explicitly
00:10:05.240 says he will not reduce immigration from Justin Trudeau's levels. And he explicitly says he
00:10:13.040 will not change the countries of origin of immigrants. Ask him. I personally have. It
00:10:18.280 was actually the last conversation Andrew Scheer ever agreed to have with me. I pressed him
00:10:22.220 on the number of immigrants. He dodged. I pressed him on cultural fit. He dodged. He dodged five 0.53
00:10:28.140 times. It was a cringeworthy interview, if you remember it. It was the last time he ever spoke
00:10:32.600 with me, because he is indistinguishable from Justin Trudeau on immigration, other than his
00:10:37.480 promise to fix the broken system, as in, well, he says, to provide more social services for
00:10:42.540 foreigners. He won't even commit to closing the Roxham Road, a legal place of entry. And my
00:10:48.460 point for telling you all that is this. Anyone who was truly that revved up about immigration
00:10:52.580 in Canada, who knew their facts, who was concerned about immigration, would know that Andrew Scheer
00:10:57.400 isn't any different from Trudeau. I'm sorry to say it. They probably, you know, someone
00:11:01.460 who was that angry about immigration probably would drop out of the political system or be
00:11:05.520 supporting the one candidate who wants to reform immigration, Maxime Bernier, or maybe Quebec
00:11:10.700 Premier Francois Legault, who's tough on the subject, too. So that little video was fake,
00:11:15.820 fake, fake, fake, fake, fake. But to the media, it's real, because it's too perfect to check.
00:11:21.160 That video was retweeted and republished uncritically by countless media party journalists who couldn't
00:11:29.380 be bothered to even Google the thing. I Googled it. I Googled her. It wasn't even that tough.
00:11:34.520 She was arrested and charged with assaulting police officers, which is quite something for 1.00
00:11:39.160 a hoaxer. So we have her name, Talia Davidson. How hard is it to type Talia Davidson into Google?
00:11:48.200 It takes less time to do it than even to say it. Here she is on Facebook, partying at a hard
00:11:54.220 left-wing activist newspaper with a union organizer. The newspaper is called Now Magazine. They're so
00:11:59.360 nuts. They think Trudeau is right-wing. They hated the late Rob Ford. If you're for Now Magazine, 1.00
00:12:07.000 you're Antifa left. You're hard left. You're kooky left. And there she is at a Now Magazine party. 0.99
00:12:15.660 That took me five seconds to find. And she's not anti-immigrant. She loves immigrants. All her
00:12:21.140 friends are immigrants. She was involved at a Venezuelan restaurant in the city with other
00:12:25.400 immigration activists that specifically preferred to hire immigrants. Now, she's not Muslim. I actually 0.99
00:12:30.940 think she was born Jewish. But she's a pro-Muslim, pro-hijab activist. She says in this comment
00:12:36.640 here, anyone who is against the hijab is an Islamophobe. Apparently, even Muslims who are 1.00
00:12:42.000 against it. And she says women who wear a bra are just as the same as someone who wears a hijab. 1.00
00:12:48.000 She actually said that. She's a pro-hijab kook. She would never call a Muslim man a savage.
00:12:53.140 She posed for photos at Bike Stock. That's a hippie bicycle gathering. I guess you could be 0.91
00:13:01.140 a conservative at this pro-cycling, anti-car, anti-oil eco event. I guess you could. I guess
00:13:09.060 a vegetarian could say their favorite restaurant is McDonald's. I just wouldn't believe it. 1.00
00:13:14.340 Unlike the mainstream media who said, no, no, no, this is an Andrew Scheer conservative. According
00:13:18.240 to this social media page, though, dug up by Post Millennial, Davidson is an anarcho-syndicalist. If
00:13:24.800 you even know what that means, you know it's left-wing. She was a Palestinian activist, an
00:13:30.120 immigration booster. So exactly the opposite of who she pretended to be on camera that day at
00:13:36.340 downtown Toronto. It's just all right out there on Google. My colleague Kian Bextie points out that
00:13:43.560 the video itself was originally uploaded to the internet by this guy, Farhan Rana, the guy who
00:13:49.220 said, I don't believe this. He's a Palestinian activist who used to work for Bill Morneau at
00:13:54.000 Morneau's company, Morneau Chappelle. That's a pretty coincidental thing, but I actually think
00:13:58.060 he's legitimate. I think the hoaxer was Talia Davidson. I think Farhan Rana's reaction,
00:14:03.880 I think, was real. I don't think he was in on it. I think he was actually assaulted. That's what
00:14:09.520 being spat upon is. If he's in on this hoax, that's a whole other level of misconduct. I
00:14:15.560 actually don't think he was, but I'm just guessing. The weirdest thing was, the website
00:14:20.200 that put this online, blog T.O., they did a profile on Davidson just last month. Don't they
00:14:26.740 recognize their own friend? They just wrote about her last month. That's so weird. Now,
00:14:31.560 Talia Davidson was charged with assaulting police, so she's taking hoaxing to a whole new level. 0.71
00:14:36.720 I just don't understand that part. I acknowledge that it's so weird I can't process it. Even that
00:14:41.960 11-year-old hijab liar and Jussie Smollett, they stopped with the hoax, right? They didn't 0.98
00:14:46.980 actually commit crimes after the hoax by attacking people or whatever. So maybe Talia Davidson has 1.00
00:14:52.920 just snapped mentally. Maybe she's just having a bout of mental illness. I'm not being mean. I'm just 0.71
00:14:57.980 saying maybe that's a possibility. Maybe that's me being kind to her, trying to find a less
00:15:03.480 odious explanation than a hoax. I think she truly believed that this hoax would denormalize 0.87
00:15:10.220 conservatives. And you know what? It did. Because even if she's convicted of her assaults, 0.94
00:15:15.420 the image is still out there. The headlines are still out there. Scheer did indeed feel compelled
00:15:21.280 to deny that this person he never knew, who probably never supported him, the party says
00:15:27.480 Talia Davidson has never been a member. I believe them. So even if Davidson is proved to be a hoaxer,
00:15:33.020 or even if she's mad, well, she succeeded because the fake news media took the story and ran with it
00:15:37.600 uncritically. As always, when the narrative is just too perfect for them to ignore. Was this Davidson
00:15:44.020 doing this on her own or with her left-wing friends? Or was the Liberal Party war room behind it? Or maybe 0.97
00:15:49.240 another anti-conservative campaign group like David Akin's journalism union, Unifor, that's campaigning
00:15:56.160 as a third-party group? Who was behind it? I note that David Akin took down his original tweet, but with
00:16:01.260 no clarification or explanation or correction or anything like that, just pretending it didn't
00:16:06.340 happen. That's weird. But it's no odder than how the rest of the media party operate. You remember
00:16:12.340 what the CBC did a couple years ago, right when Trump was inaugurated? They actually hired crisis actors
00:16:18.980 to pretend to be racists on the streets of Canada and to go up to random Canadians and say racist
00:16:24.600 things to them and try to get them to respond in kind. And they tried to link the whole thing back
00:16:29.720 to Trump? Now, this wasn't some game show or some reality TV show. This was a show called CBC Marketplace
00:16:37.280 that used to expose, I mean, they're supposed to expose hoaxes and scams. This time, they were the
00:16:44.020 perpetrators of hoaxes and scams. They literally couldn't find any real racists.
00:16:48.980 So they hired people with your tax dollars to pretend to be racist Trump supporters, to smear Trump,
00:16:56.220 even though the CBC themselves were the ones saying the racist words.
00:17:00.420 I think Talia Davidson should be prosecuted for assault. That's what spitting is. Unless she was in 1.00
00:17:06.160 collusion with Rana, the cameraman, in which case he, I suppose, would have consented to the assault.
00:17:10.480 But if he didn't, she should be charged for spitting on a guy. 0.98
00:17:12.980 And if there are any other fingerprints on this matter, the Liberal Party war room,
00:17:18.040 David Akin's partisan Unifor Union, the CBC marketplace crisis actors, they should be charged
00:17:25.600 too. It's only August. The election campaign isn't even in full swing yet. That won't actually happen
00:17:30.700 until after Labor Day. But get ready for a tsunami of fake news just like this. And it will come from
00:17:36.220 the fanciest of media party reporters. The very same people who say you should trust them and only
00:17:41.840 them, not independent media like us. Stay with us for more.
00:17:46.380 Welcome back. Well, moments ago, Donald Trump tweeted his concern about the ongoing political
00:18:06.960 demonstrations in Hong Kong. Let me read it to you. Our intelligence has informed us that the
00:18:11.920 Chinese government is moving troops to the border with Hong Kong. Everyone should be calm and
00:18:16.100 safe. This comes after months of mass protests on Hong Kong streets against Chinese plans to have
00:18:23.380 an extradition law that could take citizens from free Hong Kong to the mainland China, where the
00:18:29.600 courts are not independent. Joining us now via Skype is our favorite China expert. You know him. His name
00:18:35.780 is Gordon Cheng. He's the author of The Coming Collapse of China. And we're grateful to have a moment of
00:18:40.640 his time on this very busy day. Gordon, nice to see you again. This tweet from Donald Trump
00:18:45.800 suggests he is concerned about China possibly having a Tiananmen Square-style reaction to Hong Kong.
00:18:53.080 Yes, it's much better than his previous comments were that this was just a matter between China and
00:18:59.080 Hong Kong. From the leader of the free world, we need a stout defense of freedom. He's not quite
00:19:05.240 there yet, Ezra, but he's moving in the right direction. I saw yesterday images on social media of what
00:19:13.160 looked like troop carriers. They're trucks to carry troops. That's what it looked like to me. Also,
00:19:18.200 some light armored vehicles massing just across the border from Hong Kong. This was in propaganda
00:19:27.240 style videos released by the Chinese government, buses, trucks. Was this designed to show Chinese
00:19:34.840 nationals that China is tough? Is it designed to scare Hong Kongese? What's the purpose of these
00:19:40.680 propaganda videos released by the Chinese military?
00:19:43.720 Yeah, I think it's all of the above. You know, right now, the Chinese government does not want to
00:19:49.160 deploy either the People's Army or the People's Russian Army under the streets of Hong Kong. They know
00:19:55.160 they do that. They do that. It's a little provocation and that a lot of blood will be spilled, not all of it, Hong Kong.
00:20:01.800 There'll be Chinese men and women being brought back and body backs. Because Hong Kong is, you look at it, 1.00
00:20:09.880 the buildings, the narrow streets, it really is perfect for defense. It's very difficult for an invader.
00:20:16.120 You know, right now, Beijing's leaders are in Beidaiha, which is that resort near Beijing. They do this most
00:20:24.680 August. And if they go according to what they've done in the past, they'll be finishing about the
00:20:30.760 end of this week. That means by the end of this week, there could very well be a decision either to
00:20:35.800 deploy or not to deploy. But in the meantime, Beijing is just sort of resorting to intimidation.
00:20:42.040 The idea that there would actually be a military confrontation with the
00:20:47.560 unarmed protesters in Hong Kong is almost too much to fathom. Hong Kong, which is an economic
00:20:54.360 and political and social jewel, a model for success, an amazing place. The idea that it would be
00:21:02.200 thrown into a civil war type situation at the hands of the Communist People's Liberation Army is almost
00:21:08.360 too much to think about. Surely this is already damaging the thought that Western investors could
00:21:16.360 trust Hong Kong as being independent. I'm very nervous about the future of Hong Kong. I don't
00:21:22.200 think it's ever looked this bad, certainly since China took over in 1997. I'm scared. Is that the 0.98
00:21:28.440 point here? I think it's self-destructive though for China though, Gordon.
00:21:31.720 Well, it is. You know, Beijing can solve this very quickly by having Carrie Lam, who's the Hong Kong 0.87
00:21:38.920 chief executive, the top political officer in the territory, by having her permanently withdrawing 1.00
00:21:44.920 the extradition bill, which is what triggered the protests last April, but also by making concessions
00:21:52.280 on universal suffrage of the election of the next chief executive. Beijing doesn't want to do that,
00:21:59.240 and I can understand why. This is an extremely dangerous situation. And one thing, Ezra,
00:22:04.360 talk about unarmed people in Hong Kong. I would say mostly because there's a lot of dynamite there 1.00
00:22:12.760 in my gasoline, Molotov cocktails. Even, you know, I would think there might be some Hong Kong 1.00
00:22:22.440 police. You saw the Chinese. Gordon, we're having a little bit of trouble with the internet connection, 0.99
00:22:29.000 and I know you've got to run. We're showing on the screen Hong Kong protesters throwing papers
00:22:36.600 at police. There were some scuffles. There are some masks on the protesters, I think, to hide their
00:22:44.520 identity from facial recognition. I see some of the protesters are using lasers to foil the facial
00:22:51.080 recognition technology used by the Chinese government to ID these protesters. This is a
00:22:57.400 very high-tech, asymmetrical battle. If you had to predict its outcome, and I know that's a very
00:23:03.400 difficult business, do you think that Beijing is going to blink? These Hong Kongese seem more 1.00
00:23:09.640 resolute in their freedom than almost any other country I've heard of. Two million people have
00:23:14.360 massed in the streets such an enormous percentage of the population. Are you betting on the spirit of Hong 0.99
00:23:19.640 Kong, especially now that Trump is weighing in a little bit? Or do you think China is so resolved
00:23:24.600 on this that they'll damn the torpedoes and crush Hong Kong like they did in Tiananmen Square?
00:23:31.720 Well, in the next three or four months, I don't see the Chinese deploying the troops or the armed police.
00:23:38.920 After that, I think it might be possible, especially if we see contagion, if we see protests in China
00:23:45.400 itself, inspired by the Hong Kong demonstrations. So that I think might be the trigger. But right now,
00:23:53.720 it's not just these kids. It's a mass of Hong Kong people. Two-thirds, maybe three-quarters of the
00:24:00.920 population are very much against China right now. So it is a broad spectrum of Hong Kong society that is
00:24:09.240 against China. And I think China understands that. If they introduce the troops to the streets, 0.74
00:24:15.240 all bets are off. And I think Beijing knows that they could very well come out the loser.
00:24:20.600 Wow. You know, last time I was in Hong Kong, a friend said,
00:24:24.440 China didn't take over Hong Kong. Hong Kong will take over China. And I didn't quite believe him.
00:24:29.640 But he suggested that you use the word contagion. My friend said the virus of freedom. I don't like
00:24:35.080 saying virus of freedom, because that implies it's negative. But who knows? Maybe in the end,
00:24:39.320 Hong Kong will help free the rest of China. Last word to you, Gordon. I'm so grateful for your time. 0.67
00:24:43.800 I know you're in such demand today by every network. Give us a closing thought. Leave us with something.
00:24:49.960 Yeah. In many times in Chinese history, including the last imperial dynasty, they unravel from the 0.52
00:24:56.600 outside in. So when you have unrest in the periphery, that can eventually move into the center itself.
00:25:03.960 And then that's perhaps what we're seeing right now in Hong Kong. You know, you have the unrest,
00:25:09.000 of course, in the northwest where the Uyghurs live. So this could very well be the beginning of the 1.00
00:25:15.160 end of communism. Might take a long time, Ezra, but this is very well maybe the process and how it
00:25:22.440 gets started. Well, that's very nerve wracking, but also exciting. At the same time, our hopes are with
00:25:29.400 the Hong Kong people. Gordon Cheng, you're one of the world's experts on this subject.
00:25:33.640 We're grateful for your time. I know you have a lot of other interviews to do, so we'll
00:25:37.320 say goodbye now. Thank you so much for being with us today.
00:25:40.680 Oh, well, thank you so much, Ezra. I really appreciate the opportunity.
00:25:43.560 Well, we learn so much from you every time. All right. Good luck, my friend. That's our friend,
00:25:47.000 Gordon Cheng. He's the author of The Coming Collapse of China. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:26:03.640 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the media telling normal Canadians to
00:26:07.640 stop flying because of global warming. Paul writes,
00:26:10.680 they fly around the world on a whim, live in multiple homes and all the nicest places,
00:26:14.920 eat in five-star restaurants and do as they please. The little people must travel less, 1.00
00:26:19.160 if at all, get rid of that bar fridge and eat bugs. Yeah, that eat bugs part is so gross, 0.89
00:26:25.640 but really, it's not that far different from Catherine McKenna saying, hey, everybody, eat less
00:26:30.920 meat. Who are you to tell people what to eat? I mean, it's a personal decision, but it's also,
00:26:35.560 by the way, hardwired in our biology. You can see it even in our teeth. We have canine teeth. We're
00:26:41.800 meant to be meat eaters. We don't have teeth like, say, carnivorous animals do. It's so bizarre and
00:26:50.840 hubristic to say, hey, people, stop eating what you feel you need to eat, what you want to eat,
00:26:57.400 what you culturally want to eat, and eat what we tell you to eat. That's the weirdest social control
00:27:03.240 of all. So naturally, Catherine McKenna is all over it. John writes, I won't be limiting my flights,
00:27:10.120 my plastic use, or anything else. I get to live my life, despite Trudeau and old yellers' hypocrisy. 0.92
00:27:16.200 Yeah, exactly right. On my interview with Sheila Gunn-Reed about the shootings in Toronto,
00:27:21.000 Robert writes, the liberals are going to get a backdoor gun registry. They will do so by
00:27:26.040 successively prohibiting and restricting various classes of firearms, right down to 19th century
00:27:31.720 muzzleloaders. Yeah, you know what? I mean, here we are in the fourth year of Trudeau's term, 1.00
00:27:40.120 and he hasn't introduced that bill to that effect yet, I don't think. They're making some
00:27:46.200 regulatory changes. A lot of the things that I was worried Trudeau would do, he hasn't done. I think
00:27:50.920 it's just out of laziness. I mean, Trudeau is perhaps the laziest prime minister we've ever had, 0.69
00:27:56.040 and I don't even think it would be fair to compare Kim Campbell, because she didn't really
00:27:59.960 even have time at the job. She'd probably be called. I don't even think she was lazy. She just didn't have 1.00
00:28:04.280 the chance. So why hasn't he done these things? I don't think it's a strategy. I think it's just
00:28:09.320 laziness and incompetence. But I'm worried that if Trudeau does win again in October,
00:28:14.440 all the bad ideas he's been talking about, but has been too lazy or incompetent to get going,
00:28:19.560 I believe they will get going in that second term. I think it's a very crucial election.
00:28:23.080 All right, folks. Well, that's our show for tonight. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all,
00:28:28.440 let's see you at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home. Good night. Keep fighting for freedom.