Rebel News Podcast - Justin Trudeau has been convicted of breaking the law in the SNC-Lavalin scandal. He should resign.

00:00:00.000 Hey, folks, today I'm going to do a little bit of reading for you.

00:00:02.620 I'm going to read from the text of the Dion Report.

00:00:06.340 That's Mario Dion, the new ethics commissioner.

00:00:08.900 I'm going to take you through it.

00:00:09.780 It's about some of the crooked conduct of Justin Trudeau

00:00:13.600 in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.

00:00:16.080 There's so much in there.

00:00:17.500 You know, I only touched the surface,

00:00:19.520 but I'll read a few minutes of it to you.

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00:00:49.620 Tonight, huge news.

00:00:51.660 News that in a healthy democracy would result in a resignation.

00:00:55.240 Justin Trudeau has been convicted of breaking the law

00:00:59.260 in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.

00:01:01.460 It's August 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:06.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:10.200 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:14.260 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:01:17.780 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:20.140 Justin Trudeau has broken the law again.

00:01:28.000 It's what, his fifth violation now?

00:01:30.400 That's a problem in itself because it's becoming normalized.

00:01:34.240 We're turning into a place where it doesn't much matter

00:01:36.140 if we have a lawbreaker as our chief lawmaker.

00:01:39.360 Other than legalizing drugs,

00:01:41.540 I don't think Trudeau really has any other legacy, don't you?

00:01:45.260 No, it's awful.

00:01:46.780 Here's the news.

00:01:48.760 He's being convicted of violating the Conflict of Interest Act

00:01:51.720 by interfering with Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:01:54.420 who was then the Attorney General,

00:01:56.180 by trying to get her to drop criminal charges

00:01:58.620 against a corrupt Quebec engineering company called SNC-Lavalin.

00:02:02.920 The report today was released

00:02:05.520 by the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner.

00:02:08.640 His name is Mario Dion.

00:02:10.340 I tell you that because this is the second Conflict of Interest

00:02:14.440 and Ethics Commissioner who has convicted Trudeau.

00:02:17.480 You can see the cover of his book,

00:02:20.360 The Conviction Findings.

00:02:21.360 It's called Trudeau 2 Report.

00:02:24.120 You see that?

00:02:24.860 That's because there is already a Trudeau Report No. 1

00:02:28.560 by the earlier ethics commissioner.

00:02:31.560 It was a finding by the previous commissioner

00:02:33.040 when Trudeau illegally took a bribe worth about $200,000

00:02:36.640 in the form of a free family vacation to Billionaire's Island,

00:02:41.560 a private island in the Bahamas owned by the Aga Khan,

00:02:44.200 a billionaire who just happens to have a lot of business

00:02:46.520 with the Canadian government.

00:02:47.500 And by business, I mean we give him big cash grants for his project.

00:02:52.660 So it's pretty easy to see how that would be illegal.

00:02:55.240 The Aga Khan gives Trudeau's family free vacations

00:02:58.300 and Trudeau's government gives the Aga Khan millions of dollars

00:03:01.500 in taxpayers' money.

00:03:02.600 That's called corruption.

00:03:03.400 It's why it's against the law for politicians to take gifts.

00:03:06.840 It's why, for example, it's illegal for Trudeau

00:03:09.160 to take free flights from any donor.

00:03:12.380 And in fact, he took a private flight from the Aga Khan

00:03:14.560 to get to Billionaire Island.

00:03:16.140 It's a bribe.

00:03:18.260 Trudeau isn't so stupid not to know that.

00:03:20.620 That's why he covered it up.

00:03:22.600 Kept it a secret, did not disclose it,

00:03:24.160 then tried to cover it up.

00:03:25.520 Again, Gerald Butts was up to his eyeballs,

00:03:27.360 and that one too.

00:03:28.560 Butts was the janitor, the cleanup man for Trudeau's mess.

00:03:31.660 It didn't work, or maybe it did.

00:03:32.960 I mean, other than a bit of news, nothing really happened, did it?

00:03:36.040 No criminal charges.

00:03:37.600 The media still deeply loved Trudeau after Billionaire Island.

00:03:41.340 But this second report, it's a doozy.

00:03:43.700 I'm going to quote from it today.

00:03:45.800 I think you already know the basics.

00:03:47.940 As you know, SNC-Lavalin is a corrupt company

00:03:50.020 that, as part of its business model,

00:03:52.060 pays tens of millions of dollars in bribes

00:03:54.600 to public officials around the world

00:03:56.240 to get them to give big contracts to SNC-Lavalin.

00:03:59.380 But they're not only corrupt themselves,

00:04:01.960 they corrupt public institutions.

00:04:03.440 They're stealing from citizens

00:04:04.900 who have to overpay for projects.

00:04:07.100 They're stealing from other honest engineering firms.

00:04:10.560 But worse than the theft of money

00:04:12.100 is the destruction of public ethics.

00:04:14.340 They pay tens of millions of dollars in bribes

00:04:16.520 to Muammar Gaddafi's family

00:04:18.200 to get fat contracts in Libya.

00:04:21.080 The company even bought prostitutes and drugs

00:04:23.520 in Canada for Gaddafi's son.

00:04:26.020 SNC-Lavalin is basically a criminal organization.

00:04:28.320 I'm not saying everyone who works there was.

00:04:30.400 Obviously, it's full of honest engineers

00:04:32.560 who do honest work.

00:04:33.600 But the executives, the salesmen,

00:04:35.900 the people going around to drum up the business,

00:04:37.540 they're criminals.

00:04:38.840 Now, this is not a baseless allegation.

00:04:40.460 It's an admission by the company.

00:04:41.940 Oh, and it's not just overseas.

00:04:43.640 They do this in Canada, which really bugs me.

00:04:46.500 It's one thing to steal from Libyans, 1.00

00:04:48.140 but I'm not really Libyan.

00:04:49.120 I don't care much.

00:04:50.840 But they're stealing from Canadians, 1.00

00:04:52.380 corrupting Canadians. 0.64

00:04:53.260 They're stealing from hospital budgets in Canada.

00:04:55.760 Who does that?

00:04:56.560 What low-life criminals steal from the sick?

00:04:59.080 Well, SNC-Lavalin, that's who.

00:05:02.100 So that's against the law, if you didn't know.

00:05:03.940 And so the government was prosecuting them,

00:05:06.440 which is correct.

00:05:07.100 And Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:05:08.080 was the attorney general

00:05:10.180 overseeing the Department of Public Prosecutions,

00:05:13.080 which was actually running the lawsuit

00:05:14.440 against SNC-Lavalin.

00:05:15.980 And Trudeau intervened again and again.

00:05:18.480 He did so personally,

00:05:19.660 and he put his whole staff onto it.

00:05:21.460 And Gerald Butts was behind it all,

00:05:23.440 just like he was behind the cover-up

00:05:24.760 for the illegal vacation in the Bahamas.

00:05:27.640 Trudeau tried to get Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:05:29.300 to drop the charges against his criminal friends.

00:05:32.520 Was Trudeau on the take, too?

00:05:34.300 Did he take bribes, too,

00:05:35.900 like the other liberals did in Montreal, too,

00:05:38.180 for the hospital,

00:05:38.860 like the Gaddafis did in Libya? 0.99

00:05:40.300 We have no evidence that he did.

00:05:42.680 But if he was taking bribes from SNC-Lavalin,

00:05:45.040 I really don't see a single thing

00:05:46.520 he would do differently than he has been doing.

00:05:48.420 He really has been as partisan and desperate

00:05:51.640 and interfering on SNC-Lavalin's behalf

00:05:54.000 as the Gaddafis were in Libya, 0.93

00:05:55.720 except here in Canada,

00:05:57.020 there are still some checks and balances.

00:05:59.340 He had to fire Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:06:00.920 because she got in his way.

00:06:02.880 But the conflict of interest and ethics commissioner

00:06:05.600 called him out today.

00:06:08.040 Now that's a paper tiger.

00:06:10.480 That's nothing.

00:06:11.220 He's not going to jail.

00:06:12.960 That's not a criminal conviction against Trudeau himself.

00:06:15.320 But at least it's a warning to all of us.

00:06:17.780 I'd like to read a little bit from that warning now.

00:06:19.700 I'd like to read some extended excerpts

00:06:21.640 from the findings today.

00:06:22.860 A conviction.

00:06:23.740 He was convicted of breaking the law.

00:06:25.400 Again, he was the first prime minister in history

00:06:28.060 to be convicted of breaking a federal law

00:06:29.980 while prime ministering.

00:06:31.220 And this is, I think, his fifth conviction

00:06:32.920 under the Conflict of Interest Act.

00:06:34.640 And remember, when this all broke

00:06:36.380 in a bombshell front page story

00:06:37.720 by the Globe and Mail back in February,

00:06:40.820 remember what Trudeau said?

00:06:41.860 He called it fake news.

00:06:44.280 The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false.

00:06:49.120 Neither the current nor the previous Attorney General

00:06:52.440 was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office

00:06:56.500 to take a decision in this matter.

00:07:00.120 The allegations reported in the story are false.

00:07:03.980 At no time did I or my office

00:07:07.960 direct the current or previous Attorney General

00:07:11.640 to make any particular decision in this matter.

00:07:16.640 Yeah, he's a liar.

00:07:17.820 I'm shocked, aren't you?

00:07:19.820 Maybe one day the RCMP will actually decide

00:07:21.840 to do their job.

00:07:23.660 I mean, I know the new RCMP commissioner

00:07:25.820 is a feminist just like Trudeau 1.00

00:07:27.900 and she was just appointed by Trudeau

00:07:29.760 and she owes her career to Trudeau.

00:07:31.220 But maybe she still has a shred of public interest 0.99

00:07:33.560 left in her deep down under all the liberal BS maybe. 0.74

00:07:36.620 So let me read to you from the ethics report today.

00:07:39.420 So I'm reading from Mario Dion's report.

00:07:42.880 This report, he says,

00:07:45.460 represents the findings of my examination

00:07:47.580 under the Conflict of Interest Act

00:07:49.080 of the conduct of the right Honorable Justin Trudeau,

00:07:52.280 Prime Minister of Canada.

00:07:53.260 I sought to determine whether he used his position

00:07:56.140 to seek to influence a decision

00:07:58.060 of the Attorney General of Canada,

00:07:59.700 the Honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:08:01.220 Relating to a criminal prosecution

00:08:02.900 involving SNC-Lavalin,

00:08:05.060 contrary to Section 9 of the Act.

00:08:07.900 Section 9 prohibits public officeholders

00:08:10.040 from using their position

00:08:10.960 to seek to influence a decision

00:08:13.080 of another person

00:08:14.120 so as to further their own private interests

00:08:16.300 or those of their relatives or friends,

00:08:18.220 or to improperly further

00:08:19.560 another person's private interests.

00:08:22.640 Pretty clear.

00:08:23.340 And that private interests is a key point

00:08:26.100 because Trudeau keeps saying jobs, jobs, jobs,

00:08:28.900 but today Mario Dion found, no, no, no.

00:08:32.360 He was actually fighting for SNC-Lavalin's

00:08:34.920 financial interests and his own political interests.

00:08:38.020 I'm going to keep going.

00:08:38.800 I'm going to skip some unimportant sentences.

00:08:41.160 It's quite a long document.

00:08:42.660 I want to speed it up.

00:08:43.400 Let me read some more.

00:08:44.080 SNC-Lavalin was charged in February 2015

00:08:47.720 with criminal offenses

00:08:49.080 that allegedly took place

00:08:50.200 between 2001 and 2011

00:08:52.420 under a remediation agreement,

00:08:54.640 also called a Deferred Prosecution Agreement.

00:08:57.640 The criminal charges could be deferred or suspended.

00:09:00.720 At the time, Canada did not have a regime

00:09:02.680 to allow remediation agreements.

00:09:04.400 In early 2016, SNC-Lavalin began lobbying officials

00:09:08.760 with the current government

00:09:10.040 to adopt a remediation agreement regime.

00:09:13.580 Following public consultations,

00:09:14.880 amendments to the criminal code

00:09:15.840 allowing for such a regime were adopted

00:09:17.980 as part of the 2018 federal budget.

00:09:22.000 On September 4th, 2018,

00:09:24.060 the Director of Public Prosecutions

00:09:25.480 informed the Officer of the Minister of Justice

00:09:28.280 and Attorney General

00:09:29.000 that she would not invite SNC-Lavalin

00:09:31.580 to negotiate a possible remediation agreement.

00:09:34.100 The Prime Minister's office

00:09:35.140 and the Minister of Finance's office

00:09:37.760 were then informed of this decision

00:09:40.280 by Ms. Wilson-Raybould's office.

00:09:43.160 Mr. Trudeau then directed his staff

00:09:45.260 to find a solution

00:09:46.540 that would safeguard SNC-Lavalin's

00:09:48.880 business interests in Canada.

00:09:51.500 The first step in my analysis

00:09:53.060 was to determine whether Mr. Trudeau

00:09:54.880 sought to influence the decision

00:09:56.280 of the Attorney General

00:09:57.540 as to whether she would intervene

00:09:59.380 in a criminal prosecution

00:10:00.820 involving SNC-Lavalin

00:10:02.220 following the decision

00:10:04.000 of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

00:10:05.320 The evidence showed

00:10:07.060 there were many ways

00:10:09.120 in which Mr. Trudeau

00:10:11.140 either directly

00:10:12.280 or through the actions

00:10:13.540 of those under his direction

00:10:14.620 sought to influence

00:10:16.220 the Attorney General.

00:10:18.200 There were many ways.

00:10:19.640 Not once, not an accident,

00:10:22.360 but part of an ongoing plan.

00:10:23.580 If this were a gang,

00:10:25.800 if this were the mafia,

00:10:28.540 it would be called

00:10:29.000 a criminal conspiracy.

00:10:29.980 To tamper with a criminal trial?

00:10:33.300 Here, let me read some more.

00:10:35.400 Having reviewed several possible means

00:10:36.900 of intervening in the matter,

00:10:38.300 Ms. Wilson-Raybould

00:10:39.020 made it known in September

00:10:40.320 that she would not intervene

00:10:41.920 in the Director of Public Prosecutions

00:10:43.260 decision.

00:10:45.140 Mr. Trudeau met with

00:10:46.180 Ms. Wilson-Raybould

00:10:46.840 on September 17,

00:10:48.320 at which time she reiterated

00:10:50.020 her decision not to intervene

00:10:51.380 in the Director of Public Prosecutions

00:10:53.180 decision to not invite SNC-Lavalin

00:10:55.600 to enter into a remediation agreement.

00:10:57.360 She also expressed to Mr. Trudeau

00:10:59.640 her concern of inappropriate attempts

00:11:01.960 to interfere politically

00:11:03.240 with the Attorney General

00:11:04.080 in a criminal matter.

00:11:05.940 Following this meeting,

00:11:06.800 senior officials under the direction

00:11:08.120 of Mr. Trudeau

00:11:08.740 continued to engage both

00:11:11.580 with SNC-Lavalin's legal counsel

00:11:13.280 and separately with Ms. Wilson-Raybould

00:11:16.200 and her ministerial staff

00:11:17.340 to influence her decision

00:11:18.800 even after SNC-Lavalin

00:11:20.660 had filed an application

00:11:21.740 for a judicial review

00:11:23.120 of the Director of Public Prosecution's decision.

00:11:24.900 These attempts also included

00:11:27.620 encouraging her

00:11:28.600 to re-examine the possibility

00:11:30.380 of obtaining external advice

00:11:32.060 from someone like

00:11:33.560 a former Chief Justice

00:11:34.720 of the Supreme Court.

00:11:36.360 Unbeknownst to the Attorney General

00:11:37.860 at that time,

00:11:38.920 legal opinions from

00:11:39.760 two Supreme Court justices

00:11:41.660 retained by SNC-Lavalin

00:11:43.500 had been reviewed

00:11:45.100 by the Prime Minister's Office

00:11:46.240 and other ministerial offices.

00:11:49.560 Meanwhile,

00:11:50.280 both SNC-Lavalin

00:11:51.240 and the Prime Minister's Office

00:11:52.280 had approached

00:11:53.000 former Chief Justice

00:11:53.860 of the Supreme Court

00:11:54.640 to participate in the matter.

00:11:56.360 The final attempt

00:11:57.220 to influence Ms. Wilson-Raybould

00:11:58.560 occurred during a conversation

00:12:00.140 with the former Clerk

00:12:01.400 of the Privy Council

00:12:02.140 on December 19th

00:12:03.180 as an appeal

00:12:04.020 on behalf of Mr. Trudeau

00:12:05.360 to impress upon her

00:12:06.500 that a solution was needed

00:12:07.920 to prevent

00:12:08.580 the economic consequences

00:12:09.940 of SNC-Lavalin

00:12:11.000 not entering into negotiations

00:12:12.840 for a remediation agreement.

00:12:16.200 Oh, there were a lot of things

00:12:17.360 in there, weren't there?

00:12:17.900 Did you catch the part

00:12:18.780 where they tried to trick

00:12:20.120 Jody Wilson-Raybould?

00:12:21.160 Remember,

00:12:21.520 they told her,

00:12:22.300 hey, maybe we could

00:12:24.280 possibly ask

00:12:25.280 someone really smart

00:12:26.360 like a former

00:12:27.460 Supreme Court judge

00:12:28.320 what they think?

00:12:29.740 Would you be open to that?

00:12:32.020 I mean,

00:12:32.320 that's bizarre

00:12:33.000 and absurd

00:12:33.860 and inappropriate

00:12:34.500 that's not how we do things.

00:12:35.860 But you see,

00:12:36.320 it was a trick.

00:12:37.280 They were already

00:12:38.380 on side with SNC-Lavalin.

00:12:40.100 They had been hired

00:12:41.200 by SNC-Lavalin.

00:12:42.680 SNC-Lavalin paid

00:12:44.280 for Frank Iacobucci,

00:12:45.320 a former Supreme Court judge,

00:12:46.280 to come up with an opinion.

00:12:47.700 They were actually

00:12:48.160 going to show that.

00:12:49.060 There was another judge, too.

00:12:50.540 They had all these judges

00:12:51.520 lined up.

00:12:52.180 They knew what they

00:12:52.840 were going to say.

00:12:53.980 They were trying to trick

00:12:55.180 Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:12:57.060 It didn't work.

00:12:59.160 So they had to fire her. 0.98

00:13:01.420 Here's more.

00:13:03.660 Simply seeking to influence

00:13:05.120 the decision of another person

00:13:06.360 is insufficient

00:13:07.340 for there to be

00:13:08.700 a contravention of Section 9.

00:13:09.960 The second step

00:13:10.600 of the analysis

00:13:11.100 was to determine

00:13:12.200 whether Mr. Trudeau,

00:13:13.020 through his actions

00:13:13.660 and those of his staff,

00:13:14.880 sought to improperly

00:13:16.380 further the interests

00:13:17.860 of SNC-Lavalin.

00:13:19.740 The evidence showed

00:13:20.860 that SNC-Lavalin

00:13:21.640 had significant

00:13:23.020 financial interests

00:13:23.940 in deferring prosecution.

00:13:25.500 These interests

00:13:25.960 would likely have been furthered

00:13:27.540 had Mr. Trudeau

00:13:28.580 successfully influenced

00:13:30.180 the Attorney General

00:13:30.960 to intervene

00:13:31.580 in the direction

00:13:32.500 of public prosecution's decision.

00:13:35.020 The actions

00:13:35.620 that sought to further

00:13:36.760 these interests

00:13:37.260 were improper

00:13:37.960 since they were contrary

00:13:39.420 to the Shawcross doctrine

00:13:41.400 and the principles

00:13:41.960 of prosecutorial independence

00:13:43.200 and the rule of law.

00:13:45.300 I'll just read

00:13:46.680 a little bit more.

00:13:48.320 Here's the key part.

00:13:50.220 For these reasons,

00:13:51.480 I found that Mr. Trudeau

00:13:52.740 used his position

00:13:54.160 of authority

00:13:54.980 over Ms. Wilson-Raybould

00:13:56.520 to seek to influence

00:13:57.660 both directly

00:13:58.580 and indirectly

00:13:59.280 her decision

00:14:00.300 on whether she should

00:14:01.160 overreel

00:14:01.520 the Director

00:14:01.940 of Public Prosecution's

00:14:02.980 decision

00:14:03.400 not to invite SNC-Lavalin

00:14:05.240 to enter into negotiations

00:14:06.480 toward a remediation agreement.

00:14:09.180 Therefore,

00:14:10.140 I find that Mr. Trudeau

00:14:11.620 contravenes

00:14:12.540 Section 9

00:14:13.320 of the Act.

00:14:14.280 Boom.

00:14:14.460 He's a lawbreaker.

00:14:15.800 Your Prime Minister

00:14:16.500 is a lawbreaker.

00:14:17.300 He broke the law.

00:14:18.340 But we all knew that.

00:14:19.380 But we didn't know

00:14:20.360 some other details.

00:14:21.340 I didn't know

00:14:22.380 that Trudeau

00:14:23.240 was actively working

00:14:24.440 with SNC-Lavalin

00:14:25.560 against the Attorney General.

00:14:28.560 While Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:14:29.820 and the Director

00:14:30.640 of Public Prosecutions

00:14:31.440 were prosecuting,

00:14:33.040 Trudeau was collaborating

00:14:34.600 with SNC-Lavalin.

00:14:37.140 That's incredible.

00:14:38.580 Now, we knew

00:14:39.320 a lot of this before,

00:14:41.080 but for some reason

00:14:41.960 we're all acting

00:14:42.620 like everything's just fine.

00:14:44.460 Now, let me read to you

00:14:45.140 another interesting part

00:14:46.260 of this report.

00:14:46.760 I won't read you

00:14:47.260 too much more.

00:14:48.240 This ethics commissioner,

00:14:49.280 Mario Dion,

00:14:51.120 he started to investigate

00:14:52.400 in February,

00:14:53.000 right when the Globe story broke.

00:14:54.280 I think he started

00:14:54.820 the next day, in fact.

00:14:56.380 Listen to how Trudeau

00:14:57.520 tried to cover up the fact.

00:14:59.480 We saw him lying there.

00:15:01.000 Oh, the story is false.

00:15:03.040 Look at how he covered up

00:15:03.940 the facts.

00:15:04.260 If he were a conservative,

00:15:05.220 he would be compared

00:15:06.700 to Richard Nixon

00:15:07.440 hiding documents,

00:15:08.480 deleting tapes.

00:15:10.220 Look at this.

00:15:10.660 Let me read this.

00:15:12.060 On February 8th,

00:15:13.560 I wrote to Mr. Trudeau.

00:15:14.600 This is Mario Dion speaking.

00:15:16.980 I wrote to Mr. Trudeau

00:15:18.000 to inform him

00:15:18.660 that I was initiating

00:15:19.480 an examination

00:15:20.020 of his conduct.

00:15:21.300 I informed Mr. Trudeau

00:15:22.460 that the purpose

00:15:23.000 of my examination

00:15:23.680 was to determine

00:15:24.640 whether he used

00:15:25.380 this position

00:15:25.920 to seek to influence

00:15:27.040 the decision

00:15:27.500 of Ms. Wilson-Raybould

00:15:28.300 in her capacity

00:15:28.980 as Attorney General

00:15:29.620 of Canada

00:15:30.040 so as to improperly

00:15:32.000 further the private interest

00:15:33.020 of SNC-Lavalin.

00:15:34.000 I requested

00:15:35.000 that Mr. Trudeau

00:15:36.820 produce all relevant

00:15:38.140 documents in the possession,

00:15:39.500 custody, or control

00:15:40.780 of the Prime Minister's office.

00:15:41.880 Okay.

00:15:43.840 During this examination,

00:15:46.020 nine witnesses,

00:15:47.840 so this is nine staff

00:15:48.920 of Trudeau,

00:15:50.540 informed our office

00:15:51.460 that they had information

00:15:52.940 they believed

00:15:54.400 to be relevant

00:15:55.540 but that could not

00:15:57.480 be disclosed

00:15:58.040 because according to them

00:15:58.900 this information

00:15:59.480 would reveal

00:16:00.060 a confidence

00:16:00.860 of the Queen's Privy Council

00:16:01.960 and would fall

00:16:02.700 outside the scope

00:16:03.400 of order

00:16:03.840 in Council 2019-105.

00:16:07.280 In order to gain access

00:16:08.660 to as much relevant

00:16:09.460 information as possible,

00:16:10.740 on March 29th,

00:16:11.480 I instructed legal counsel

00:16:12.520 in our office

00:16:13.020 to engage with counterparts

00:16:14.440 in the Privy Council office

00:16:15.360 to request that witnesses

00:16:16.740 be enabled

00:16:17.840 to provide all of their

00:16:19.600 evidence to our office.

00:16:20.720 Despite several weeks

00:16:21.780 of discussions,

00:16:22.860 the office has remained

00:16:23.740 at an impasse

00:16:24.480 over access

00:16:25.140 to cabinet documents.

00:16:27.320 On May 3rd,

00:16:27.900 I raised the matter

00:16:28.480 directly with the Prime Minister

00:16:29.600 during his interview.

00:16:30.620 Through legal counsel,

00:16:31.500 Mr. Trudeau stated

00:16:32.340 that he would consult

00:16:33.240 with the Privy Council office

00:16:34.180 to see whether

00:16:34.760 the order in Council

00:16:35.860 could be amended.

00:16:37.220 So I guess

00:16:37.580 Justin Trudeau

00:16:38.240 needed permission.

00:16:40.200 In a letter dated

00:16:41.040 June 13th,

00:16:41.780 the clerk of the Privy Council

00:16:42.640 declined my request

00:16:43.860 for access to all

00:16:44.960 cabinet conferences

00:16:45.680 in respect

00:16:47.080 to this investigation.

00:16:48.480 Because of the decisions

00:16:49.700 to deny our office

00:16:51.380 further access

00:16:52.140 to cabinet confidences,

00:16:53.800 witnesses were constrained

00:16:54.920 in their ability

00:16:55.620 to provide all evidence.

00:16:57.280 I was therefore

00:16:58.340 prevented

00:16:59.700 from looking over

00:17:01.200 the entire body

00:17:02.120 of evidence

00:17:02.560 to determine

00:17:03.040 its relevance

00:17:03.560 to my examination.

00:17:05.020 Decisions that affect

00:17:05.960 my jurisdiction

00:17:06.580 under the Act

00:17:07.280 by setting parameters

00:17:08.660 on my ability

00:17:09.280 to receive evidence

00:17:10.180 should be made

00:17:11.640 transparently

00:17:12.300 and democratically

00:17:13.120 by Parliament,

00:17:14.080 not by the very same

00:17:15.060 public office holders

00:17:15.900 who are subject

00:17:16.720 to the regime

00:17:17.320 I administer.

00:17:18.420 I am convinced

00:17:19.700 that if our office

00:17:21.060 is to remain truly

00:17:21.940 independent

00:17:22.380 and fulfill its purpose,

00:17:23.640 I must have unfettered

00:17:24.880 access to all information

00:17:26.460 that could be relevant

00:17:27.180 to the exercise

00:17:27.760 of my mandate.

00:17:28.460 I must be satisfied

00:17:29.540 that decisions made

00:17:30.580 by the most senior

00:17:31.520 public of office holders,

00:17:32.820 including those

00:17:33.500 discussed at cabinet,

00:17:34.740 are free from

00:17:35.580 any conflicts

00:17:36.180 of interest.

00:17:37.720 In the present examination,

00:17:39.360 I have gathered

00:17:39.820 sufficient factual information

00:17:41.100 to properly determine

00:17:42.520 the matter on its merits.

00:17:43.680 Because of my inability

00:17:44.680 to access

00:17:45.240 all cabinet conferences

00:17:46.520 related to the matter,

00:17:48.180 I must, however,

00:17:48.740 report that I was unable

00:17:49.600 to fully discharge

00:17:51.420 the investigatory duties

00:17:52.820 conferred upon me

00:17:53.660 by the Act.

00:17:54.720 All right,

00:17:55.100 I'm sorry to read so much,

00:17:56.240 but my point is this.

00:17:57.180 Trudeau is a lawbreaker.

00:18:00.340 That's the son.

00:18:00.900 He was convicted today.

00:18:02.380 But we don't even know

00:18:03.680 the half of it.

00:18:05.400 Because Trudeau continues

00:18:06.940 to refuse to hand over

00:18:08.780 information,

00:18:09.600 and he has ordered

00:18:10.940 his staff not to talk either,

00:18:13.060 saying it's confidential.

00:18:14.720 But this is the ethics

00:18:15.660 commissioner.

00:18:16.120 His job is to investigate

00:18:17.400 confidential things.

00:18:18.620 He won't blab 1.00

00:18:19.380 about state secrets.

00:18:20.680 He's not an outsider.

00:18:22.000 He's an internal check

00:18:23.340 on the power of MPs,

00:18:24.660 including cabinet.

00:18:25.460 And Trudeau refuses

00:18:26.640 to let him see

00:18:27.400 what Trudeau did.

00:18:29.180 Do you have any plans

00:18:30.620 to resign or at least

00:18:31.780 apologize formally?

00:18:33.400 I recognize that this

00:18:36.360 was a situation

00:18:37.240 that shouldn't have happened.

00:18:39.040 But my desire

00:18:40.460 to protect Canadians

00:18:42.180 and at the same time

00:18:43.800 to protect the integrity

00:18:45.600 and the independence

00:18:46.560 of our judicial institutions

00:18:48.900 remained throughout.

00:18:51.460 We recognize that

00:18:53.020 the way this happened

00:18:54.420 shouldn't have happened

00:18:55.780 and I take responsibility

00:18:57.680 for the mistakes

00:18:59.540 that I made.

00:19:01.280 At the same time,

00:19:02.320 we learned many lessons

00:19:03.480 through that

00:19:04.040 and were aided

00:19:05.060 and will be aided

00:19:05.900 by the McClellan Report,

00:19:07.520 which has been released today.

00:19:09.740 Look at how he's talking there.

00:19:12.700 It was an incredible

00:19:13.820 press conference.

00:19:14.480 I don't want to play

00:19:14.880 too much of it.

00:19:15.360 You'll get dumber

00:19:15.940 by the second.

00:19:16.700 It's like your IQ

00:19:17.300 will be ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.

00:19:19.700 I don't want to make you

00:19:20.240 any dumber.

00:19:21.520 I did it.

00:19:22.400 I watched it.

00:19:23.100 I'm about five IQ points

00:19:24.300 dumber.

00:19:24.580 I'll never get him back.

00:19:26.240 But you see what he did there?

00:19:27.220 He reframed the issue

00:19:28.100 as if he wasn't in it.

00:19:29.960 He always says,

00:19:30.640 oh, there are lessons learned

00:19:31.960 and you see,

00:19:32.540 I was trying so hard.

00:19:34.560 I love judicial independence

00:19:36.440 and I love standing up

00:19:37.680 for jobs

00:19:38.120 and I just love too much.

00:19:41.220 So we have to balance.

00:19:43.220 But it's always as if

00:19:44.440 he's an outside observer.

00:19:46.240 Just like you and me,

00:19:46.960 he's passive.

00:19:47.440 He's above the fray.

00:19:49.000 He said he accepts

00:19:50.180 the ruling

00:19:51.440 by the commissioner

00:19:53.080 but he disagrees with it.

00:19:55.020 Well, hang on.

00:19:56.100 Which one is it, buddy?

00:19:57.540 You accept it

00:19:58.360 or you disagree with it?

00:19:59.800 Oh, well, neither.

00:20:00.820 He's got nothing to do with it.

00:20:02.140 He'll solve the problem.

00:20:03.880 In fact,

00:20:04.460 he'll reconcile

00:20:05.340 those two differences,

00:20:06.480 those two different interests,

00:20:08.820 independent judiciary

00:20:09.980 and fighting for jobs.

00:20:11.660 Neither of which

00:20:12.420 was the fact.

00:20:14.060 He wasn't fighting for jobs.

00:20:15.340 The ethics commissioner

00:20:18.140 said it was a private interest

00:20:20.000 he was serving.

00:20:21.680 But he's above the problem.

00:20:23.140 He's watching it

00:20:23.860 like a pundit.

00:20:26.920 No, you crook.

00:20:28.340 You are the problem.

00:20:31.060 But you know,

00:20:31.500 precious few journalists

00:20:32.620 dare to say that.

00:20:35.360 Who can intervene here?

00:20:37.800 Who can stop this?

00:20:38.800 It's been five convictions now.

00:20:40.240 Who can have the power

00:20:43.000 to get those documents

00:20:44.100 that he's hiding,

00:20:45.160 to get those nine witnesses,

00:20:46.620 to make them free

00:20:47.180 to testify in court

00:20:48.320 over Trudeau's objections?

00:20:50.160 Well, the only answer

00:20:51.200 is the RCMP, actually.

00:20:54.720 But they're silent.

00:20:57.360 Here's a letter months ago

00:20:58.540 signed by

00:20:59.100 former attorneys general

00:21:01.600 across Canada

00:21:02.720 from different political parties,

00:21:05.700 different regions.

00:21:06.440 They're all asking

00:21:07.380 the RCMP to investigate.

00:21:09.540 So far,

00:21:11.700 silence from the RCMP.

00:21:13.620 But how can they be silent now

00:21:14.960 in the face of this

00:21:16.000 legal finding of fact

00:21:17.260 that Justin Trudeau

00:21:19.740 broke the law?

00:21:20.480 How can they not?

00:21:21.680 They have the facts

00:21:22.820 and they have the law.

00:21:24.100 He's convicted.

00:21:25.260 How can they not investigate

00:21:26.200 him for corruption now?

00:21:27.240 Frankly, to investigate

00:21:28.520 if he himself took bribes

00:21:29.940 because he sure is acting

00:21:31.200 like he did.

00:21:32.900 It's that brazenness.

00:21:34.240 Trudeau and his cronies

00:21:35.180 are daring people

00:21:36.100 to move on.

00:21:37.420 They're daring them.

00:21:38.240 They're acting like

00:21:39.040 everything's normal.

00:21:39.720 They're saying,

00:21:40.080 no, no, no.

00:21:41.060 You're the weird one.

00:21:42.760 Oh, if you think

00:21:43.780 we did something wrong,

00:21:44.620 well, you must be extremist

00:21:45.680 or racist.

00:21:48.400 You know, by saying

00:21:50.200 that we shouldn't protect

00:21:51.660 such a star company

00:21:52.900 like SNC-Lavalin,

00:21:54.900 even though it's already

00:21:55.600 confessed as serially

00:21:56.480 corrupt,

00:21:57.100 bribe-paying company,

00:21:57.840 if you don't stand

00:21:58.680 with SNC-Lavalin,

00:21:59.620 you must be an Islamophobe. 0.51

00:22:01.560 Gerald Butts,

00:22:02.240 the mastermind

00:22:02.860 of both the vacation

00:22:03.880 on Billionaire Island

00:22:04.820 and this corruption,

00:22:06.160 he originally resigned

00:22:07.300 in disgrace.

00:22:07.960 Do you remember that?

00:22:08.660 But now he's just

00:22:09.560 waltzed back into the PMO.

00:22:11.180 I mean, why not?

00:22:12.660 Who's going to speak

00:22:13.300 against him?

00:22:13.840 The media,

00:22:14.500 who are now on his payroll

00:22:16.140 through the bailout.

00:22:17.160 Here's the Huffington Post today.

00:22:19.220 Oops.

00:22:19.820 Ha, ha, ha.

00:22:20.500 Oh, tee-hee. 0.99

00:22:21.860 Oops, he did it again.

00:22:23.580 Trudeau broke

00:22:24.120 conflict of interest rules

00:22:25.360 in SNC-Lavalin.

00:22:26.340 I don't know if your watchdog

00:22:27.180 finds.

00:22:27.920 Oh, but he's so,

00:22:29.400 he's such a lovable lug.

00:22:30.880 Come here.

00:22:31.780 Let me give you a hug.

00:22:32.760 I can't stay mad at you.

00:22:35.020 Whoopsies.

00:22:35.440 It was just a little

00:22:36.120 whoopsies, people.

00:22:38.100 Here's the Toronto Star.

00:22:39.740 He broke rules.

00:22:41.360 No, no, no, no.

00:22:42.080 He didn't broke rules, mate.

00:22:43.380 He broke the law.

00:22:45.220 Why is the Toronto Star

00:22:46.320 using weasel words?

00:22:47.420 Oh, he broke some rules.

00:22:48.220 No big deal.

00:22:49.120 No, he broke the law.

00:22:50.460 The CBC is in full panic mode.

00:22:52.980 Look at this.

00:22:53.480 Right in the middle

00:22:53.920 of the whole thing.

00:22:54.600 They tweet something.

00:22:56.360 I don't know.

00:22:56.820 I mean, when their master

00:22:57.980 needs them to distract

00:22:59.640 the most, they go full tilt.

00:23:00.960 Here they are talking

00:23:01.620 about the New Zealand shooter.

00:23:04.020 Yeah, that's the ticket.

00:23:05.420 Oh, and Donald Trump,

00:23:06.980 orange man bad,

00:23:08.100 and pro-lifers are coming

00:23:09.740 with their unregistered guns.

00:23:11.900 Whatever it takes

00:23:13.200 to turn the channel from this.

00:23:14.420 That's the CBC state broadcaster.

00:23:16.000 They're in full damage control mode.

00:23:18.520 Look, I think it's big

00:23:20.100 what's going on.

00:23:20.920 Not the crime,

00:23:22.020 the actual corruption and bribes.

00:23:23.160 That is big.

00:23:24.780 Not the cover-up.

00:23:26.320 I mean, that is really big,

00:23:27.360 pressuring the Justice Minister

00:23:28.440 to break the law.

00:23:30.300 But the fact that the crime

00:23:31.440 has been uncovered

00:23:32.140 and the cover-up itself

00:23:33.320 has been revealed,

00:23:34.900 and that now we're just

00:23:36.280 in a staring contest

00:23:37.400 to see who will blink first.

00:23:39.900 That kind of staring contest

00:23:41.340 suggests that everyone

00:23:42.220 has the same moral code

00:23:44.040 because Justin Trudeau

00:23:44.920 and his corrupt boss

00:23:46.080 Gerald Butts,

00:23:46.600 they never blink.

00:23:48.500 So if we're just going

00:23:49.360 to stare at them,

00:23:50.020 they're not going

00:23:50.440 to blink people.

00:23:51.180 These are the people

00:23:52.580 who took a convicted terrorist

00:23:55.100 on their trip to India

00:23:56.060 and then blamed India.

00:23:58.900 These are the people

00:23:59.580 who put not one

00:24:00.360 but two Trudeau nannies

00:24:01.600 on the public payroll

00:24:02.600 and dared you to criticize them

00:24:04.600 and didn't care if you did.

00:24:06.460 Butts himself

00:24:07.560 showed his moral code,

00:24:09.300 his moral fiber,

00:24:10.500 by pocketing more than

00:24:11.340 a hundred grand

00:24:12.220 just to move from

00:24:13.000 Toronto to Ottawa.

00:24:14.360 They're corrupt.

00:24:15.040 They're the Libranos. 1.00

00:24:15.940 They're breaking the law.

00:24:17.060 And now,

00:24:18.060 that's not an opinion.

00:24:19.100 That's a legal finding of fact.

00:24:20.020 They broke the law.

00:24:21.160 And what are you going

00:24:21.780 to do about it?

00:24:23.620 The media will make

00:24:24.560 some jokes about it.

00:24:25.480 Whoopsies,

00:24:25.880 he did it again.

00:24:27.040 Maybe some of them

00:24:27.660 will even look to get in

00:24:29.480 on some of the action.

00:24:30.260 I mean,

00:24:30.380 maybe SNC-Lavalin

00:24:31.360 will throw them a few bucks

00:24:32.340 for some positive coverage

00:24:33.760 that seems to be

00:24:34.320 how they operate.

00:24:34.940 Maybe they can lobby

00:24:36.280 Trudeau and Morneau

00:24:37.180 and David Lamedi,

00:24:37.980 the disgraceful lawyer

00:24:38.840 who succeeded

00:24:39.400 Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:24:40.620 Maybe they can get in on it,

00:24:41.700 get in on the take.

00:24:44.100 A healthy country

00:24:45.040 would morally demand

00:24:46.240 that a serial lawbreaker,

00:24:47.920 a corrupt crook,

00:24:48.660 like Trudeau resigned,

00:24:49.860 but I don't think

00:24:51.420 we're healthy as a country.

00:24:53.200 Not our media,

00:24:53.940 not our police,

00:24:54.820 not our political class,

00:24:56.000 not our lawyers,

00:24:56.940 not our courts.

00:24:57.580 A few examples

00:24:58.620 of moral exemplars,

00:24:59.640 to be sure.

00:25:00.320 Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:25:01.280 Jane Philpott,

00:25:02.120 but they've been demonized

00:25:03.220 now by the establishment

00:25:04.160 for daring to stand up

00:25:05.180 to Trudeau.

00:25:06.160 I expect we'll see

00:25:07.360 attacks on Mario Dion,

00:25:09.260 the ethics commissioner,

00:25:10.180 as soon as tomorrow.

00:25:11.140 And then what?

00:25:13.160 Is that all?

00:25:13.800 Is that it?

00:25:14.400 That's the sad part.

00:25:16.140 I think this law-breaking,

00:25:17.980 corrupt little trust fund kid,

00:25:19.560 I think he's going to

00:25:21.840 get away with it.

00:25:23.720 What do you think?

00:25:25.900 Stay with us for more.

00:25:26.880 Well, this is a shocking report,

00:25:44.400 but not surprising.

00:25:45.860 Do you know what I mean by that?

00:25:46.960 I mean, I don't think

00:25:48.120 anyone was surprised

00:25:49.220 that what Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:25:50.400 and Jane Philpott

00:25:51.140 and others said

00:25:51.600 about Justin Trudeau

00:25:52.360 was in fact the truth

00:25:53.760 in his bald-faced denial

00:25:55.620 in the face of that original.

00:25:56.880 Globe and Mail article

00:25:57.900 was false.

00:25:58.540 I don't think that's surprising,

00:26:00.920 but it is shocking

00:26:01.680 to see the details confirmed

00:26:03.320 by a conflict of interest

00:26:05.900 and ethics commissioner.

00:26:06.980 And joining us now

00:26:07.480 via Skype from Edmonton

00:26:08.640 is our friend Lauren Gunter,

00:26:10.280 senior columnist

00:26:11.180 for the Edmonton Sun.

00:26:12.840 Lauren, you've had a chance

00:26:14.780 to go through the report

00:26:16.460 at least in a cursory manner.

00:26:19.540 Tell me your biggest takeaway

00:26:22.060 from the report

00:26:22.840 and then maybe tell us

00:26:23.740 some details that you thought

00:26:24.800 were most interesting.

00:26:25.940 Well, just one word

00:26:27.020 sums it up.

00:26:27.620 It's devastating.

00:26:28.360 It really is.

00:26:30.220 The ethics commissioner

00:26:31.340 Mario Dion says

00:26:32.440 that Trudeau

00:26:34.260 and people directed

00:26:35.360 by Trudeau

00:26:36.520 put undue pressure

00:26:39.040 on Wilson-Raybould

00:26:40.200 to overturn

00:26:44.020 a lawful decision

00:26:45.740 made by the independent

00:26:47.200 prosecutor's office.

00:26:48.820 They did it on many occasions.

00:26:50.680 They did it

00:26:51.140 in inappropriate ways

00:26:51.940 and that they put

00:26:54.320 at risk

00:26:54.960 the independence

00:26:55.860 of the court system

00:26:57.440 in Canada.

00:26:58.620 To me, that's devastating.

00:27:00.700 Now, I am articulating it

00:27:02.940 in a slightly less

00:27:04.000 bureaucratic way

00:27:05.000 than Dion's office did.

00:27:06.420 But nonetheless,

00:27:07.740 it's very obvious

00:27:09.260 from what's being said.

00:27:10.280 It's not you have to read

00:27:11.300 between the lines

00:27:11.940 or you have to figure it out.

00:27:12.900 He says,

00:27:13.540 on multiple occasions,

00:27:14.680 the prime minister directly

00:27:15.820 or people directed

00:27:16.960 by the prime minister

00:27:17.880 put unwarranted

00:27:19.340 an undue pressure

00:27:20.400 on the attorney general

00:27:21.540 to try and cover up

00:27:23.700 the SNC prosecution.

00:27:25.680 And I don't think

00:27:27.540 you can get much more

00:27:28.300 devastating than that.

00:27:29.880 Yeah.

00:27:30.280 Well, and the idea

00:27:31.340 of interfering

00:27:32.420 with the trial,

00:27:33.680 I mean, it's so unusual

00:27:35.020 to hear that

00:27:35.680 in a free country.

00:27:37.180 There's probably been

00:27:38.060 a thousand Hollywood movies

00:27:39.720 made of some mob boss

00:27:42.460 interfering with the trial

00:27:43.800 and how do they do it?

00:27:45.320 Well, maybe they can bribe

00:27:46.700 a judge or a prosecutor,

00:27:47.940 but more likely

00:27:49.040 they can bribe someone

00:27:50.100 on the jury.

00:27:51.360 But it's all dirty interference,

00:27:55.660 obviously illegal and criminal.

00:27:59.140 I mean, I can't help

00:28:00.620 but think of that scene

00:28:01.260 in The Godfather

00:28:02.080 where someone was going

00:28:04.680 to turn on the mob boss

00:28:06.240 and then they get to him

00:28:07.240 through threatening his family.

00:28:08.940 They bring his brother

00:28:09.560 in from Italy.

00:28:11.020 That's how it normally

00:28:12.560 looks in the movies.

00:28:14.320 It's a dirty criminal act

00:28:15.540 by a gang.

00:28:16.740 I think when it's orchestrated

00:28:19.020 through the lawful instruments

00:28:20.580 of the prime minister's office,

00:28:21.960 it's going to look

00:28:23.760 the way described

00:28:25.280 in this report.

00:28:26.100 I mean, there's no difference

00:28:27.580 in how,

00:28:28.760 in the goal,

00:28:30.140 stop the prosecution.

00:28:31.340 It's just,

00:28:32.160 it doesn't look grubby.

00:28:33.380 It looks lawyerly,

00:28:34.580 but it's still corrupt.

00:28:36.440 Yeah.

00:28:36.780 I think corrupt's

00:28:37.840 a good word for it too.

00:28:39.180 And, you know,

00:28:40.000 of course,

00:28:40.780 Trudeau is the first

00:28:42.100 prime minister

00:28:42.780 to have been found

00:28:45.060 in violation

00:28:46.800 of the ethics laws

00:28:48.580 for taking the free trip

00:28:51.480 to the Aga Khan's 0.85

00:28:53.320 private island

00:28:54.000 in the Bahamas.

00:28:55.140 Now he's the first

00:28:56.140 prime minister

00:28:56.640 to be found

00:28:57.180 in violation

00:28:57.860 of the ethics laws

00:28:58.840 for having done this

00:28:59.820 and the conflict

00:29:00.920 of interest laws

00:29:01.580 for having done this.

00:29:03.060 Anybody with any shame

00:29:04.740 would resign.

00:29:06.100 And you could bet

00:29:07.220 that already

00:29:08.000 online and on TV,

00:29:10.980 the CBC

00:29:11.600 and the Star

00:29:12.960 would have been

00:29:13.960 hollering

00:29:14.920 for Stephen Harper's

00:29:16.080 resignation

00:29:16.480 if this had happened

00:29:18.420 under a conservative.

00:29:19.380 If Andrew Scheer

00:29:20.000 becomes the prime minister

00:29:21.080 and something like this

00:29:21.920 happens to him,

00:29:22.680 they'll be the first

00:29:23.580 to shout that he must

00:29:24.660 step aside

00:29:25.580 for the good of the country.

00:29:26.640 They would already

00:29:27.300 have had,

00:29:27.900 like,

00:29:28.100 because they,

00:29:28.520 you know,

00:29:28.780 we all knew this report

00:29:29.900 was coming sometime this week.

00:29:31.360 They would already

00:29:32.200 have had lined up

00:29:33.300 their constitutional experts

00:29:34.840 and political scientists

00:29:35.940 who would say

00:29:36.300 it's not possible

00:29:37.840 for a prime minister

00:29:38.700 so badly damaged

00:29:40.220 by these accusations

00:29:41.920 to continue in office.

00:29:43.780 But will you see

00:29:44.700 any of that

00:29:45.400 around Trudeau?

00:29:46.460 No.

00:29:47.200 And Trudeau has no shame

00:29:48.160 and I don't think

00:29:48.820 he has a lot of intellect

00:29:49.620 so he probably

00:29:50.660 will not resign.

00:29:51.720 In fact,

00:29:52.140 he definitely won't resign.

00:29:53.560 Yeah.

00:29:53.980 Well, you know,

00:29:54.580 I'm already looking

00:29:55.340 at some of the headlines

00:29:56.320 by the Star

00:29:59.160 and the CBC.

00:30:00.160 He broke the rules.

00:30:02.160 No, no.

00:30:02.620 They weren't rules.

00:30:03.580 They were the

00:30:03.980 Conflict of Interest Act.

00:30:05.200 He broke the law.

00:30:06.840 Oh, he went outside

00:30:08.200 the guidelines.

00:30:09.260 Like, they're using

00:30:09.840 the most minimalistic language

00:30:11.140 that's not even accurate.

00:30:12.760 I compare that

00:30:13.720 to the year-and-a-half-long mania

00:30:15.780 over the accusation

00:30:17.560 that Mike Duffy

00:30:18.380 expensed too much in travel

00:30:21.380 and so Nigel Wright

00:30:22.420 just cut a check

00:30:23.480 to the government

00:30:23.900 to make it good.

00:30:24.800 That turned into

00:30:25.620 a year-and-a-half-long

00:30:26.340 criminal trial

00:30:27.860 of which there was

00:30:28.980 no conventions in the end.

00:30:30.380 But holy cow, 0.97

00:30:31.360 were there calls

00:30:31.800 for resignations.

00:30:32.660 Let me ask you a question,

00:30:33.500 Harper must have known.

00:30:35.460 And that was the theme

00:30:36.780 throughout the investigation

00:30:38.800 and the trial.

00:30:40.180 I remember when

00:30:40.720 the RCMP's report

00:30:41.780 into the Duffy scandal

00:30:43.920 came out

00:30:44.540 and the questioning

00:30:46.260 went on

00:30:46.800 in the House of Commons.

00:30:48.260 It was always about,

00:30:49.240 well,

00:30:49.780 there's nothing in this report

00:30:50.960 that says Harper

00:30:51.720 knew anything about this,

00:30:53.240 but he must have known.

00:30:54.280 Surely he must have known

00:30:55.140 what his chief of staff

00:30:56.020 was doing.

00:30:56.640 And therefore,

00:30:57.360 he's guilty by association

00:30:58.720 and must resign.

00:30:59.520 Well,

00:31:00.260 this is a report

00:31:01.560 that says

00:31:02.280 the prime minister

00:31:03.480 was in violation

00:31:04.540 of Section 9

00:31:06.020 of the Conflict of Interests Act.

00:31:08.280 Yeah.

00:31:08.700 And will he resign?

00:31:10.760 No.

00:31:11.540 Yeah.

00:31:11.940 Well,

00:31:12.280 and,

00:31:13.060 you know,

00:31:13.680 I understand

00:31:14.440 the allegation

00:31:15.600 that maybe Mike Duffy

00:31:16.520 padded his expenses.

00:31:17.960 I don't know if he did.

00:31:19.260 He wasn't convicted

00:31:20.060 of doing so.

00:31:21.080 But the reason

00:31:22.580 there was a whole trial there

00:31:24.200 was that allegedly

00:31:25.720 Nigel Wright,

00:31:26.600 by paying the money back

00:31:28.040 anyways,

00:31:29.440 had committed

00:31:30.400 some sort of bribery.

00:31:31.760 Like,

00:31:31.880 I don't even think

00:31:33.120 90% of Canadians,

00:31:34.940 if you put it to them that way,

00:31:36.480 would understand

00:31:37.400 what the alleged crime was.

00:31:39.660 And what,

00:31:40.500 you will remember

00:31:42.060 that I worked

00:31:42.780 for the leader

00:31:43.280 of the government

00:31:43.800 in the Senate

00:31:44.460 in the 1980s.

00:31:46.320 And what Mike Duffy

00:31:47.520 was doing

00:31:47.980 was what many,

00:31:49.460 many,

00:31:49.700 many senators

00:31:50.320 were doing then

00:31:51.120 and since,

00:31:52.140 and that was

00:31:52.980 claiming to be

00:31:54.100 a resident

00:31:54.620 of his original

00:31:55.780 home province

00:31:57.120 while actually

00:31:57.980 being a resident

00:31:58.720 of Ottawa

00:31:59.360 and then writing off

00:32:00.800 the Ottawa residents

00:32:02.060 as his away-from-home

00:32:03.820 residents,

00:32:04.680 as his,

00:32:05.080 his government-paid

00:32:06.940 accommodations

00:32:07.640 when he had to be away,

00:32:09.120 well,

00:32:09.340 he hadn't lived in PEI

00:32:10.380 in 40 years,

00:32:11.500 but he was claiming

00:32:12.960 that he did

00:32:13.540 and expensing

00:32:14.720 his Ottawa residents.

00:32:16.340 That's scummy.

00:32:17.740 There's no question about it.

00:32:18.780 It shouldn't be allowed.

00:32:20.460 But we're not talking here

00:32:22.340 about threatening

00:32:23.620 the independence

00:32:24.460 of the prosecutorial system

00:32:26.720 in Canada,

00:32:27.780 threatening

00:32:28.160 the judicial system

00:32:30.360 in Canada

00:32:30.960 by putting undue pressure

00:32:32.580 on an attorney general,

00:32:34.180 which is what Trudeau

00:32:35.240 and Butts 1.00

00:32:35.720 and others

00:32:36.260 who are named

00:32:36.820 in this report

00:32:37.420 have done.

00:32:38.080 Right.

00:32:38.320 Well,

00:32:38.560 and so Nigel Wright's

00:32:40.340 solution to this problem

00:32:41.560 was cut a check

00:32:43.500 to the government

00:32:44.080 to fix it.

00:32:45.160 That's what spurred

00:32:46.380 the whole RCMP action,

00:32:50.260 I think.

00:32:51.280 and compare that

00:32:54.740 to massive fraud,

00:32:58.780 bribery,

00:32:59.540 corruption in Libya.

00:33:01.400 And we know

00:33:01.780 SNC-Lavalin

00:33:02.560 has corrupted

00:33:03.320 the bidding process

00:33:04.620 here in North America too,

00:33:05.780 including in Canada,

00:33:06.500 including in Montreal.

00:33:07.620 And so I'm saying

00:33:09.180 the underlying problem,

00:33:12.240 okay,

00:33:12.440 Nigel Wright cut a check

00:33:13.540 to the government

00:33:14.080 of 90 grand,

00:33:15.460 SNC-Lavalin

00:33:16.800 paid tens of millions

00:33:18.060 of dollars in bribes

00:33:19.040 to corrupt the...

00:33:19.800 So the underlying crime

00:33:21.140 is spectacularly

00:33:22.920 more devastating

00:33:24.180 in the SNC-Lavalin case.

00:33:25.740 And the prime minister

00:33:26.480 himself led

00:33:27.700 a long,

00:33:28.760 months-long process

00:33:29.960 to undermine

00:33:30.720 a prosecution.

00:33:32.260 My question to you,

00:33:33.280 Lorne,

00:33:33.440 is where's the cops?

00:33:35.020 We've had five

00:33:35.980 attorneys general,

00:33:37.540 former attorneys general

00:33:39.200 of provinces

00:33:39.820 and the feds,

00:33:41.520 say,

00:33:42.020 RCMP,

00:33:42.640 you need to investigate.

00:33:43.980 We see this conviction

00:33:45.100 now by the Conflict

00:33:46.140 of Interest Act

00:33:46.820 commissioner.

00:33:47.240 We now know

00:33:48.820 more of the underlying facts.

00:33:50.900 If the RCMP

00:33:51.600 will go to war 0.92

00:33:52.420 over Nigel Wright

00:33:54.000 chipping in 90 grand

00:33:55.620 to make things even,

00:33:56.660 where's the RCMP

00:33:57.680 here, Lorne?

00:33:58.900 And I would say

00:34:00.400 the RCMP

00:34:00.840 did the right thing

00:34:01.700 in the Nigel Wright case

00:34:02.780 in investigating it

00:34:03.800 because,

00:34:04.400 you know,

00:34:04.860 you couldn't tell

00:34:05.540 whether or not

00:34:06.200 on the face of it

00:34:07.360 whether or not

00:34:07.980 the illegality

00:34:09.180 had happened,

00:34:09.640 so that's what

00:34:09.940 the RCMP does.

00:34:12.020 But should it also

00:34:13.820 happen in this one?

00:34:14.620 Well,

00:34:14.720 we already know

00:34:15.320 that somebody's

00:34:15.940 broken the law

00:34:16.680 and his name

00:34:17.120 is Justin Trudeau.

00:34:18.140 I mean,

00:34:18.400 but I think the irony

00:34:19.460 in all of this,

00:34:20.000 and this came out

00:34:20.780 two or three weeks ago,

00:34:22.040 the finance minister

00:34:23.580 in Quebec

00:34:24.520 said that

00:34:26.040 after SNC

00:34:28.380 announced that

00:34:28.880 it was going to do

00:34:29.340 a big corporate

00:34:29.980 shake-up

00:34:30.800 and restructure

00:34:31.560 and lots of jobs

00:34:32.880 were going to be lost

00:34:33.700 and they were going

00:34:34.360 to get out

00:34:34.740 of big infrastructure

00:34:37.220 programs

00:34:37.820 across the country

00:34:38.680 for a while,

00:34:39.760 he said,

00:34:41.080 yeah,

00:34:41.180 we're not paying

00:34:41.660 any money towards

00:34:42.360 these guys

00:34:42.800 to keep them afloat.

00:34:43.600 This whole thing

00:34:44.940 was based on

00:34:45.720 the Trudeau government

00:34:46.840 deciding that

00:34:47.600 we had to do

00:34:48.220 everything as a country

00:34:49.400 that we possibly could,

00:34:50.760 including going easy

00:34:52.700 on a criminal act,

00:34:53.840 a potential criminal act

00:34:54.920 of bribery.

00:34:56.000 We had to do

00:34:56.520 everything we could

00:34:57.300 as a country

00:34:57.760 to keep SNC happy

00:34:58.960 so they would stay

00:34:59.740 in Montreal

00:35:00.180 and they would continue

00:35:01.260 to employ thousands

00:35:02.180 of Quebecers

00:35:02.880 and the Quebec government

00:35:04.140 won't even do that.

00:35:04.880 Yeah.

00:35:05.320 And by the way,

00:35:06.340 of course,

00:35:06.620 SNC-Lavalin

00:35:07.300 just did a major renovation

00:35:08.600 and renewed their lease

00:35:09.460 in Montreal.

00:35:10.020 They're not going anywhere.

00:35:11.280 I just,

00:35:13.180 you know,

00:35:13.760 a lot of the rule of law

00:35:15.100 depends on the consent

00:35:17.460 of the governed,

00:35:18.700 the consent of the people

00:35:19.420 to go along

00:35:20.040 with the rules.

00:35:21.100 I mean,

00:35:21.740 in some ways,

00:35:23.080 all law depends

00:35:24.360 on the compliant agreement

00:35:26.280 of citizens

00:35:27.680 because if every single citizen

00:35:29.840 decided one day

00:35:30.840 to do something illegal,

00:35:32.080 there just aren't enough

00:35:32.740 cops and courts

00:35:33.480 to enforce it.

00:35:34.540 So we have to agree

00:35:36.060 to abide by the rules.

00:35:37.580 And so when there's something

00:35:38.340 as stunning as this report,

00:35:39.900 in a responsible democracy,

00:35:42.320 you would see resignations

00:35:44.120 in the name of honor.

00:35:44.980 And you still see that

00:35:45.740 in places like Korea,

00:35:47.500 Japan.

00:35:48.240 You see politicians

00:35:50.040 groveling and saying,

00:35:51.240 I have let you down

00:35:52.020 and disgraced my family

00:35:52.900 and my name.

00:35:54.260 In a way,

00:35:55.280 Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:35:56.200 was living after

00:35:57.520 that very high moral standard

00:35:59.040 for herself

00:36:00.320 and Jane Philpott

00:36:01.340 even more so.

00:36:02.780 The problem with

00:36:03.800 Justin Trudeau

00:36:04.480 and Gerald Butts

00:36:05.380 is they're amoral

00:36:06.620 and they'll never

00:36:10.040 step down

00:36:10.880 unless forced

00:36:11.700 and they'll brazen it out

00:36:13.060 and they tempt others

00:36:14.560 to say,

00:36:15.020 oh, this is the new normal now

00:36:16.260 or we don't have to go along

00:36:17.800 with the rules now

00:36:18.600 or the rules don't apply now.

00:36:20.240 That's what I'm worried about.

00:36:21.580 They are benighted

00:36:23.420 progressives

00:36:25.260 and they have convinced

00:36:27.160 themselves

00:36:27.800 that no one else

00:36:30.160 sees things

00:36:31.840 with as much compassion

00:36:32.940 and wisdom

00:36:33.560 and justice

00:36:34.320 as they do.

00:36:35.780 So therefore,

00:36:36.680 we have to stop

00:36:38.120 any criticism of them

00:36:40.140 that might threaten

00:36:42.180 their existence in power

00:36:43.900 because only they are qualified

00:36:46.000 to do this.

00:36:47.320 It's not as,

00:36:48.560 you know,

00:36:48.820 in their own minds,

00:36:49.540 it's not as though

00:36:50.080 they're malicious.

00:36:51.180 It's just that,

00:36:51.840 my God,

00:36:52.420 could you imagine

00:36:53.300 if this criticism continues

00:36:55.240 and Andrew Scheer

00:36:56.640 becomes the prime minister,

00:36:57.800 then all of the great things

00:36:59.260 that we are doing,

00:37:00.140 which are

00:37:00.820 exactly the same,

00:37:03.000 fit exactly tightly

00:37:04.480 with the national interest

00:37:05.420 in their minds.

00:37:06.520 All of these great things

00:37:07.640 we are doing

00:37:08.040 to save Canada

00:37:08.960 and save the planet,

00:37:10.080 they will go out the window.

00:37:11.740 So what we do,

00:37:13.440 while it may be

00:37:13.940 a little rough at times,

00:37:15.060 it's fully justified

00:37:16.100 because the alternative

00:37:17.660 is worse.

00:37:18.360 Yeah.

00:37:19.020 Yeah,

00:37:19.440 that's,

00:37:19.960 it's sort of like

00:37:20.680 how feminists 1.00

00:37:21.540 would defend Bill Clinton

00:37:22.800 despite all of his

00:37:24.320 sexual harassment

00:37:25.120 and even credible claims

00:37:26.340 of rape

00:37:26.820 and Teddy Kennedy,

00:37:28.960 rapist, 0.70

00:37:30.440 sexual harasser, 0.84

00:37:31.860 murderer of Mary Jo Kopechny,

00:37:34.100 they said,

00:37:34.720 well,

00:37:34.960 you know,

00:37:35.560 they may be awful,

00:37:36.680 but they do so much good.

00:37:38.360 We have to,

00:37:39.000 I mean,

00:37:39.360 I think that Bill Clinton

00:37:40.420 killed the feminist movement 0.99

00:37:42.600 for a decade

00:37:43.660 because they basically said

00:37:45.120 we're going to do

00:37:45.520 a trade-off here

00:37:46.240 and the liberals

00:37:47.080 are asking

00:37:47.740 their side of the aisle

00:37:49.840 to do the same thing.

00:37:50.780 Yeah,

00:37:51.140 sure,

00:37:51.420 we're corrupt.

00:37:52.460 Sure,

00:37:52.660 we feather our nest.

00:37:53.600 Sure,

00:37:54.040 we're at the trough,

00:37:54.960 but we're not evil

00:37:56.420 like Andrew Scheer

00:37:57.600 and I wonder

00:37:58.840 if they'll get away with it.

00:37:59.640 Let me ask you this,

00:38:00.380 Lorne,

00:38:01.300 when the first four convictions

00:38:02.880 under the Conflict of Interest Act

00:38:04.260 happened,

00:38:04.940 it was the trip

00:38:05.940 to Billionaire's Island

00:38:06.960 by the Aga Khan

00:38:07.760 and you know

00:38:09.140 that Gerald Butts

00:38:09.820 and Trudeau knew

00:38:10.500 it was wrong

00:38:10.900 because they kept it secret.

00:38:12.180 If you don't think

00:38:12.680 you're doing anything wrong,

00:38:13.400 you don't try and hide it

00:38:14.120 and cover it up.

00:38:14.940 Yeah.

00:38:15.320 But that was before

00:38:16.780 Trudeau's Teflon

00:38:19.940 was blown off

00:38:21.140 by this

00:38:21.660 SNC-Lavalin matter.

00:38:22.960 So Trudeau really got away

00:38:24.500 with those first

00:38:25.360 four convictions

00:38:26.180 no problem.

00:38:27.460 The difference here

00:38:28.520 is that since February

00:38:30.040 he hasn't had

00:38:30.860 that Teflon anymore.

00:38:32.040 He's actually been

00:38:32.700 trailing in most polls.

00:38:34.660 Do you think

00:38:35.300 this will make

00:38:35.940 a bigger dent

00:38:36.760 or has the market

00:38:38.280 already accounted

00:38:40.040 for this news?

00:38:41.780 Well,

00:38:42.140 I honestly think

00:38:43.100 the Liberals

00:38:43.500 have been bouncing back

00:38:44.380 the last few months.

00:38:45.380 I think that

00:38:46.300 their scare campaigns

00:38:47.740 are working.

00:38:48.960 They're,

00:38:49.460 you know,

00:38:49.820 okay,

00:38:50.380 just exactly what you said,

00:38:51.620 we're bad,

00:38:52.400 but the alternative

00:38:53.400 is way worse.

00:38:54.260 So stick with us.

00:38:56.120 Hold your nose

00:38:56.840 and vote liberal.

00:38:58.200 And, you know,

00:38:59.120 they're going to play up

00:39:00.080 gun control,

00:39:01.100 it sounds like,

00:39:01.920 in the coming election.

00:39:03.220 They're certainly

00:39:03.860 going to play up

00:39:04.600 climate change,

00:39:06.120 which, you know,

00:39:07.420 they basically created

00:39:08.780 a moral panic

00:39:09.800 over climate change.

00:39:12.000 And they're going to claim

00:39:13.500 on the social side

00:39:14.920 that Andrew Scheer

00:39:16.960 is a closet gay basher. 0.65

00:39:18.960 And so they're going

00:39:20.920 to do all those things

00:39:22.340 that are markers

00:39:23.800 for progressive voters

00:39:25.100 around the country

00:39:26.020 in order to frighten people

00:39:28.720 to stay in the liberal base.

00:39:30.380 And I think

00:39:30.800 it will largely work.

00:39:32.700 I mean,

00:39:33.000 some people will probably

00:39:34.700 get fed up

00:39:37.040 with the scandals

00:39:37.920 who otherwise

00:39:39.060 would vote liberal

00:39:39.680 and will vote green

00:39:40.660 or maybe NDP.

00:39:42.500 But by and large,

00:39:43.520 I worry,

00:39:44.500 because if you look

00:39:45.280 at the regional breakdowns

00:39:46.980 of polls,

00:39:47.720 not just the overall

00:39:48.840 national polls,

00:39:50.300 the conservatives

00:39:51.300 have highly concentrated

00:39:53.220 support

00:39:54.700 in the prairie provinces

00:39:56.100 and the interior of B.C.

00:39:58.060 But the liberals

00:39:58.880 have very good support

00:40:00.160 in Montreal,

00:40:01.940 Ottawa,

00:40:02.760 Toronto,

00:40:03.340 that whole golden horseshoe

00:40:04.900 around Toronto,

00:40:05.780 and the lower mainland of B.C.,

00:40:07.140 which is almost enough

00:40:08.020 by itself,

00:40:08.900 all those put together

00:40:10.040 to win a majority.

00:40:12.080 I think they'll get

00:40:12.600 a solid minority.

00:40:13.560 That's my prediction

00:40:14.200 right now.

00:40:15.300 Well, very interesting.

00:40:16.040 It'll just be interesting

00:40:19.400 to see all those

00:40:20.500 ethical keepers

00:40:21.980 of the flame,

00:40:22.540 the ones who freaked out

00:40:23.540 over Bevo

00:40:24.020 at $16 orange juice,

00:40:26.540 the ones who jumped

00:40:27.640 on every pretend foible

00:40:29.240 of Stephen Hopper,

00:40:30.820 the excuse-ology

00:40:32.100 we're going to see

00:40:32.760 in the day.

00:40:33.040 I think it's going to be

00:40:33.560 a combination.

00:40:34.840 Wall-to-wall stories

00:40:35.860 at the CBC

00:40:36.520 about Islamophobia,

00:40:38.440 orange man bad,

00:40:40.980 Andrew Scheer's coming

00:40:41.920 for your abortion rights.

00:40:43.360 I've been away

00:40:47.180 the last weekend.

00:40:48.460 There was some sort

00:40:49.580 of racist rant

00:40:50.660 on a video

00:40:51.300 with a woman

00:40:51.980 holding up a vote

00:40:53.000 Scheer sign

00:40:53.860 or something.

00:40:54.780 Yeah, the whole thing

00:40:55.200 was a hoax.

00:40:55.960 It was a fake.

00:40:57.540 Yeah, well,

00:40:58.040 we expect a lot

00:40:59.160 more of that.

00:40:59.940 Yeah.

00:41:00.820 Well, Lauren,

00:41:01.900 I'm impressed

00:41:03.460 with this report,

00:41:04.420 but it only goes so far.

00:41:05.620 It's toothless.

00:41:07.280 I think Bob Fyfe

00:41:08.460 and the Globe and Mail

00:41:09.120 are energized by it.

00:41:10.340 It confirms everything

00:41:11.020 they ever said.

00:41:12.140 So at least there's

00:41:12.840 one journalist

00:41:13.400 who's going to keep at this.

00:41:14.440 I sense you are.

00:41:15.240 We will.

00:41:16.440 It'll be interesting

00:41:17.320 to see what I call

00:41:18.360 the media party,

00:41:19.160 what they will do.

00:41:20.240 I wonder,

00:41:21.100 because I think

00:41:21.740 they just love Trudeau

00:41:23.000 too much.

00:41:23.560 They'll forgive

00:41:24.080 that lovable old

00:41:25.080 lug anything.

00:41:25.760 We'll find out

00:41:26.440 in the months ahead.

00:41:27.480 It's what,

00:41:28.040 75 days till the election?

00:41:29.380 We'll know soon enough.

00:41:30.120 Yes, and you wait.

00:41:31.780 There are going to be

00:41:32.260 lots of ads

00:41:33.180 morphing

00:41:33.800 Andrew Scheer's face

00:41:35.640 into Doug Ford's face

00:41:36.940 because that's where

00:41:37.560 they think

00:41:38.000 that their votes lie.

00:41:39.460 Yeah, you're so right.

00:41:40.460 All right, great to see you,

00:41:41.220 Lauren.

00:41:41.300 Thanks for your time.

00:41:42.680 You bet.

00:41:43.120 All right, there's our friend

00:41:43.800 Lauren Gunter,

00:41:44.400 senior columnist

00:41:45.180 for the Edmonton Sun.

00:41:46.620 Stay with us.

00:41:47.420 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:41:59.080 Hey, welcome back

00:42:00.020 on my monologue yesterday

00:42:01.040 about a fake news hoax

00:42:02.580 about Andrew Scheer

00:42:03.460 being promoted

00:42:04.020 by the mainstream media

00:42:05.640 Liza writes.

00:42:07.360 Talia Davidson

00:42:07.960 didn't sound like

00:42:08.940 any conservative I know.

00:42:10.100 They don't talk

00:42:10.600 or act like that.

00:42:12.000 Well, it's not just

00:42:12.500 that she didn't sound

00:42:13.120 like a conservative.

00:42:14.720 No one who is sane

00:42:16.340 would think that

00:42:17.160 swearing, shouting,

00:42:18.420 insulting, spitting

00:42:19.200 at someone

00:42:19.800 wins votes.

00:42:21.240 So if you have a sign

00:42:22.120 saying,

00:42:22.720 vote Andrew Scheer

00:42:23.720 while doing something

00:42:24.760 you know is extremely bad,

00:42:26.840 everyone knows

00:42:27.680 that's a fake.

00:42:28.880 Everyone knows

00:42:29.420 that's a fake.

00:42:29.840 It reminds me

00:42:30.300 of a story

00:42:31.260 some Democrat

00:42:33.040 politicians told out.

00:42:34.480 I can't even remember

00:42:34.980 who, but it's very funny.

00:42:36.260 He said he used to,

00:42:37.540 this Democrat,

00:42:38.860 he used to,

00:42:39.400 when he rode taxis,

00:42:41.080 leave a huge tip

00:42:42.540 and say,

00:42:43.660 vote Democrat.

00:42:45.820 But one day

00:42:46.860 he wised up

00:42:47.960 and he left

00:42:49.220 no tip

00:42:50.440 and said,

00:42:51.820 vote Republican.

00:42:53.080 you see my point?

00:42:55.800 If your conduct

00:42:56.780 is irritating

00:42:57.640 and annoying,

00:42:59.120 you put a false flag up.

00:43:01.480 No one believes

00:43:02.740 that Talia Davidson 0.88

00:43:04.640 really wanted people

00:43:06.220 to vote for Scheer

00:43:07.080 because you don't spit

00:43:08.240 at someone

00:43:08.920 when you're trying

00:43:09.680 to get their vote.

00:43:10.460 Only the media party

00:43:11.500 was stupid enough

00:43:12.280 to believe that.

00:43:14.960 Revelation writes,

00:43:16.820 Ezra's 100% right

00:43:17.760 when he says

00:43:18.220 it's a leftist

00:43:18.920 stereotypical view

00:43:19.820 of a conservative.

00:43:20.720 That's the success

00:43:21.500 of the left-wing media.

00:43:22.600 I've run into it

00:43:23.260 many times

00:43:23.740 around the internet.

00:43:24.940 Yeah, that's the thing

00:43:25.620 is that,

00:43:26.440 I mean,

00:43:26.700 we've talked about this before.

00:43:28.340 If you're right-wing,

00:43:29.920 you have had to

00:43:31.180 get used to liberal thinking,

00:43:33.900 liberal people

00:43:34.520 because you're surrounded by it

00:43:35.440 no matter where you are

00:43:36.060 in the world.

00:43:36.840 You're inundated

00:43:37.520 by the popular culture.

00:43:38.600 You can be in the most

00:43:39.400 right-wing district

00:43:40.900 in Canada

00:43:41.560 or the United States

00:43:42.280 anywhere.

00:43:42.700 You're going to get

00:43:43.160 your left-wing dose.

00:43:44.440 But there are many leftists

00:43:45.520 who are in an impermeable barrier

00:43:49.040 who have never met

00:43:50.220 a conservative,

00:43:50.820 who have never met

00:43:51.980 anyone other than

00:43:53.980 their class and caste.

00:43:55.860 And so they have

00:43:56.700 only this caricature

00:43:57.720 of the right.

00:43:58.460 I think that's what

00:43:58.940 we saw there.

00:44:00.700 On my interview

00:44:01.200 with Gordon Chang,

00:44:02.620 Paul writes,

00:44:03.860 China cannot be trusted. 1.00

00:44:05.000 Taiwan is no doubt

00:44:05.840 taking note of what's

00:44:06.500 going on in Hong Kong.

00:44:07.700 Give up any sovereignty

00:44:08.640 to China today

00:44:09.420 and you'll be giving up

00:44:10.380 lives tomorrow.

00:44:11.560 Yeah, I'm really nervous

00:44:12.580 about these trucks

00:44:13.380 mustering on the Hong Kong border.

00:44:15.660 I can't believe

00:44:16.640 they would destroy

00:44:17.320 such a jewel.

00:44:17.920 Hong Kong is one of the,

00:44:20.200 I mean,

00:44:20.720 in some ways

00:44:22.000 it's not comparable

00:44:23.000 to London,

00:44:24.200 Paris,

00:44:25.220 New York,

00:44:26.320 but in other ways

00:44:27.260 it is.

00:44:28.060 It's a remarkable city.

00:44:29.460 It's a huge city.

00:44:30.320 It's a developed city.

00:44:31.280 It's a cultural city.

00:44:33.080 It's a historic city.

00:44:35.080 It's a brilliant city.

00:44:36.720 It's a commercially

00:44:37.460 powerful city.

00:44:38.960 To wreck it

00:44:40.260 in a kind of civil war,

00:44:41.960 which is what

00:44:42.420 China's threatening, 0.99

00:44:43.760 it's unthinkable.

00:44:45.840 It's unthinkable

00:44:46.540 to do that

00:44:47.100 to yourself.

00:44:49.140 I don't know,

00:44:49.620 but I think China

00:44:50.300 would crush anything

00:44:51.120 and anyone

00:44:51.640 that threatened their power.

00:44:54.140 Well, that's our show

00:44:54.800 for today.

00:44:55.820 Until tomorrow,

00:44:56.640 on behalf of all of us

00:44:57.440 here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:44:58.600 see you at home.

00:44:59.280 Good night,

00:44:59.800 and keep fighting for freedom.

00:45:00.620 Thank you.

00:45:15.880 Thank you.

00:45:16.620 Good night.

00:45:17.300 Good night.

00:45:18.240 Good night.

00:45:18.800 Good night.

00:45:19.400 Good night.

00:45:21.060 Jump Sunday.

00:45:22.880 Good night.

00:45:23.440 Good night.

00:45:25.500 Good night.

00:45:25.640 Good night.

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00:45:31.840 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - August 15, 2019

Justin Trudeau has been convicted of breaking the law in the SNC-Lavalin scandal. He should resign.

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