Rebel News Podcast - February 05, 2021


The Proud Boys are terrorists β€” and not a single Conservative objected

Topics
censorship in Canada Proud Boys and censorship cancel culture Erin O'Toole and Trudeau disagreements
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Ezra Levant
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Justin Trudeau Erin O'Toole Joe Biden Edward Cornwallis Jagmeet Singh Donald Trump Derek Sloan Bill Blair Steven Guilbeault Qasem Soleimani Proud Boys-ish Gavin McInnes Lamont Daigle Boko Haram Proud Boys Al-Shabaab Antipa Batman Gilbo Robin
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Justin Trudeau and his socialist sidekick Jagmeet Singh designate the Proud Boys as terrorists, and no one objected. Not a single conservative objected. Ezra Levant explains why this is a good thing, and why it's a bad thing.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, Justin Trudeau and his socialist sidekick Jagmeet Singh designate the Proud Boys as
00:00:20.340 terrorists. Not a single conservative raised an objection. It's February 4th and this is
00:00:26.720 The Ezra Levant Show. Yesterday, Justin Trudeau designated the Proud Boys, the Proud Boys,
00:00:52.220 as a terrorist group. A legal step that opens that amorphous group to severe police and
00:00:58.340 counterterrorism measures, including all of the special criminal code provisions adopted by Canada
00:01:04.360 after the 9-11 Al-Qaeda attacks. This is a list of every terrorist group recognized officially
00:01:11.200 by the increasingly unserious government of Canada. On this list, you can see those heavy hitters that
00:01:17.380 you've all heard of before. Real terrorists that were added before Justin Trudeau's time, of course,
00:01:22.520 like the ones that downed the Twin Towers with a Boeing 767. How many skyscrapers have the Proud
00:01:29.680 Boys taken down with an aircraft? Remember that time the Proud Boys killed 110 farmers in Nigeria?
00:01:35.000 In from Nigeria, where the death toll in the Boko Haram attack has now risen to 110.
00:01:40.920 Civilians were ruthlessly attacked by the Boko Haram fighters who targeted a village in northeast
00:01:46.560 Nigeria. Oh wait, that was Boko Haram, not Proud Boys. What about the time those terrorists
00:01:51.680 bombed a Somali city, killing so many? This is Somali's 9-11, the story reads. The man
00:01:57.760 was arrested, he's confessed, he's proud of what he's done. Oh, that one must have been the Proud Boys,
00:02:03.140 right? Oh wait, no, that one was for jihad, one official said. I guess not. That was Al-Shabaab,
00:02:10.140 not the Proud Boys. The Proud Boys must have done something though, right? Like to make them
00:02:28.660 literally worse than the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. They are the clandestine political
00:02:33.760 mercenaries guilty of killing Canadian civilians and their political opponents, by the way, from Bahrain 0.95
00:02:38.920 to Tehran. Who could forget? That time the IRGC fired not one, but two Tor M1 missiles to take down a
00:02:46.800 plane full of Canadian citizens. Whoops. Justin Trudeau could, I guess.
00:03:08.920 See, that wasn't a big deal to him. Write it off as a whoopsie daisies lol, he said to Iran after
00:03:17.120 bowing to them, to the literal state sponsors of terrorism themselves. Justin Trudeau bowed to them,
00:03:23.420 one of the most dangerous financiers, the minister of foreign affairs for Iran, the most dangerous
00:03:29.340 financiers of deadly jihad in the world. Bowing to Iran's foreign minister is no different than
00:03:35.720 bowing to Qassem Salamali himself. Luckily, Donald Trump had the common sense to blow that terrorist
00:03:41.760 to bits and Joe Biden can't reverse that anytime soon. So what have the Proud Boys done that is
00:03:47.300 remotely similar to anything their newfound peers on this list have done? Well, here's one shocking
00:03:54.180 bit of footage that, as far as I know, is the only political or public act that the Proud Boys have
00:03:58.980 done on Canadian soil, other than to meet in pubs for a drink. Have you seen this terrifying carnage?
00:04:05.020 And I urge you to brace yourself.
00:04:08.060 I have ancestors that died in World War I, and World War II, and the Korean War, that died
00:04:17.060 for this country that you're defacing here. So you're disrespecting my ancestors.
00:04:22.060 If you were here for the beginning of this, you would have heard arguments against all of that.
00:04:26.060 I want you to go. You're interrupting.
00:04:28.060 I'm going to turn my back on you, because you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you don't
00:04:33.060 want to, you don't want to talk, you just want to, you want to bark and you want to chill.
00:04:36.060 That's fine. I'm going to turn my back on you.
00:04:40.060 That's fine. The best way for this conversation to end is for us both to just walk in different directions.
00:04:47.060 Okay, we'll go with this reasonable person.
00:04:50.060 Great, great.
00:04:51.060 Love it.
00:04:52.060 Thank you.
00:04:53.060 Now that was clearly a domestic terrorist attack.
00:04:57.060 Didn't you see him politely disagree and turn his back on a radical anti-Canada protester?
00:05:04.060 So to be clear, in Canada, if you politely disagree with someone, you're basically ISIS. 0.99
00:05:09.060 But if you bow to a state sponsor of terrorism, well, you're just a brain-dead prime minister. 0.98
00:05:14.060 Okay, I got it. I understand the rules, and it's important that everybody understands them. 0.84
00:05:19.060 I'm unaware of any other thing that the Proud Boys have actually done in Canada, for good or for evil.
00:05:25.060 Now, I acknowledge that the Proud Boys have gotten in brawls in the street with Antipa, who I note Justin Trudeau didn't designate as terrorists.
00:05:33.060 And in one dramatic case, they were sent to prison for years.
00:05:37.060 Now, that's when the founder, Gavin McInnes, disavowed himself from them, and he quit the Proud Boys.
00:05:43.060 Now, I'm not familiar with their activity since then, but I haven't seen anything in Canada.
00:05:48.060 Have you?
00:05:49.060 So, on what basis were they possibly added to a list that includes Al-Qaeda and ISIS?
00:05:55.060 Now, something that is truly terrifying, Trudeau is deploying counter-terrorism tactics and laws against groups he considers to be politically offensive.
00:06:04.060 That's terrifying.
00:06:06.060 This is part of a trend.
00:06:09.060 Once you are labeled a terrorist, there is no hope for you. No hope at all.
00:06:14.060 What, are your allies going to come and stand up for you and say, no, this is wrong?
00:06:18.060 Of course not.
00:06:19.060 There's nobody in Parliament with the stones to do that.
00:06:22.060 Aaron O'Toole ran to be leader of the Conservatives on an anti-cancel culture platform.
00:06:27.060 Those Proud Boys in Halifax, in that video I just showed you, they were gathering to protest the removal of a statue.
00:06:34.060 They were standing up against cancel culture.
00:06:37.060 Exactly what Aaron O'Toole supposedly is doing.
00:06:40.060 They were actually protesting the knocking down of a statue of Edward Cornwallis, the founder of the city of Halifax.
00:06:47.060 They were actually members of the Canadian Armed Forces, true patriots, and much more diverse than their critics, including an indigenous man and a gay soldier.
00:06:58.060 Hardly racists or white supremacists.
00:07:01.060 But they're all collateral damage for Aaron O'Toole, who couldn't care less that his voters are being labeled terrorists, the ultimate form of cancel culture.
00:07:11.060 It won't be long before every member of O'Toole's voter base are labeled as such terrorists.
00:07:17.060 Justin Trudeau got away with this once.
00:07:19.060 So what's going to stop him from doing it to everyone?
00:07:22.060 What's going to stop him from doing it the next time?
00:07:25.060 We have Ezra Levant on the line to talk about exactly that.
00:07:29.060 All right, Ezra, how are you doing?
00:07:42.060 Well, pretty good.
00:07:43.060 You know, there's so much going on.
00:07:46.060 I'm worried about the state of free speech in Canada.
00:07:49.060 Stephen Gilbeau, the heritage minister, has announced a new agency.
00:07:54.060 He hasn't given any details.
00:07:55.060 He hasn't given the name of the agency.
00:07:57.060 Hasn't said he was going to appoint to the agency.
00:08:00.060 But it is a new government agency in charge of censorship.
00:08:04.060 And I'm not talking about censoring child pornography or censoring criminal offenses, which can happen online.
00:08:13.060 He specifically talks about things that are offensive or things that disrupt social cohesion.
00:08:21.060 I've seen those words used in the United Kingdom, especially social cohesion.
00:08:26.060 That basically means anything politically incorrect.
00:08:29.060 And the fact that he needs to have new laws and a new regulator tells us something very interesting.
00:08:37.060 That he plans to do censoring beyond that which the law now contemplates.
00:08:43.060 The law applies to the internet and social media companies just as much as it applies to talk radio or television or radio, you know, CB radio or smoke signals.
00:08:57.060 The law of defamation, for example, the law of fraud, the law of, you know, uttering threats.
00:09:03.060 Those are centuries old.
00:09:05.060 And they've just been tweaked when a new technology comes along.
00:09:08.060 The fact that Gilbo wants new laws and a new regulator tells us he's going much farther than anything else contemplated.
00:09:15.060 And it dovetails with the story about the Proud Boys.
00:09:19.060 Because the Proud Boys, I mean, I don't know everything they're up to, obviously.
00:09:23.060 I don't know the American side of that story very well.
00:09:25.060 But I think I know the Canadian side.
00:09:27.060 And as you pointed out in your monologue, the only public manifestation I've ever seen in the Proud Boys is those five guys in Halifax who are Canadian Armed Forces patriots who are saying don't take down the statue of Cornwallis.
00:09:41.060 They weren't violent.
00:09:42.060 They were just sort of like a debating society.
00:09:44.060 So to call those lads terrorists twists the term beyond recognition.
00:09:51.060 But there was not a peep of opposition.
00:09:53.060 That's what I'm worried about.
00:09:55.060 Unprecedented censorship and actually labeling a non-terrorist group a terrorist group.
00:10:02.060 You know, Trudeau is, I think it's safe to say that, you know, there's more dangerous people on that list than the Proud Boys.
00:10:11.060 You know, we list off ISIS and Al-Shabaab.
00:10:14.060 Who do you think Justin Trudeau is coming for next when it comes to maybe not labeling as a terrorist organization or maybe that?
00:10:20.060 I mean, but who is he going after next to censor?
00:10:23.060 Well, I don't actually know if they would have put the Proud Boys on the terrorist list because that's quite a dramatic thing.
00:10:30.060 It's not just like a list, like a Santa Claus list of who's naughty and nice.
00:10:34.060 Being on that list triggers all sorts of police powers.
00:10:38.060 The criminal code has special provisions to deal with terrorists who were brought in after 9-11.
00:10:45.060 Even to try to support a terrorist group, to fundraise to visit a terrorist group, to promote a terrorist group.
00:10:54.060 These are all things that were criminalized after 9-11.
00:10:57.060 Makes sense, right?
00:10:58.060 I mean, you don't know exactly what terrorists do in Iraq or wherever, so you have to catch people trying to help, trying to go over there.
00:11:06.060 Now, all those laws will be applied to what was really a rowdy fraternity.
00:11:12.060 That's dangerous.
00:11:14.060 I don't think the liberals would have tried to put them on a terrorist list had they not seen that every single conservative MP in the House approved of this in Jagmeet Singh's toothless motion about 10 days ago.
00:11:28.060 So Jagmeet Singh broke the ice on this subject, saw that not a single conservative would say, hey, wait a minute.
00:11:34.060 I don't know a lot about the Proud Boys, but we need to know more before we call them a terrorist group.
00:11:40.060 Aaron O'Toole, all the way down, not a single one of them, objected, even on principled civil liberties grounds.
00:11:46.060 Like, I don't think any conservative would say, well, I'm a proud boy, so don't do that to me.
00:11:50.060 But you might have expected them to say, I'm worried about the civil liberties trend here.
00:11:56.900 Or why don't we put a real terrorist group like the Islamic Revolutionary Guard on there that, frankly, has been accused of assassinating someone in Toronto just in the last few weeks.
00:12:07.020 So knowing that the conservatives were not on guard, the liberals, I think, went further than they ever would.
00:12:13.240 And now they see, well, the civil liberties associations don't really have much to say either.
00:12:18.180 So who's next?
00:12:19.340 And again, I don't know every group in Canada.
00:12:22.040 There's a group in Quebec called Le Mute.
00:12:24.500 I don't know anything about them, but they've been right-wing opponents of open borders, for example.
00:12:32.680 There's a lot of anti-lockdown activists.
00:12:36.040 And in Quebec also, the largest anti-lockdown protest in Canada being in Quebec.
00:12:40.200 So again, I don't know the groups there, but absolutely Trudeau would call them terrorist groups if he could. 0.98
00:12:45.480 I've been very critical of a group in Toronto called The Line, which is an anti-lockdown group because their leader says stupid things occasionally. 0.96
00:12:54.580 Lamont Daigle is his name. 0.99
00:12:56.240 He talks, he daydreams about violence.
00:12:59.320 And I say, don't you dare do that.
00:13:01.440 Don't you taint the anti-lockdown movement that way.
00:13:03.800 I think he's actually probably a narc or some undercover officer because his behavior is no other rational explanation in my mind.
00:13:12.260 But Trudeau would look for any excuse he could to label the anti-lockdown protesters terrorists.
00:13:21.260 I don't know if he would get away with calling us Rebel News terrorists.
00:13:26.060 I think for that he would use his censorship rules, the new regulator that Stephen Gilboa is going to make.
00:13:31.400 I don't think he's crazy enough to call us terrorists.
00:13:34.300 But it's all part of the same thing.
00:13:37.240 Marginalize, demonize, delegitimize your enemy, censor him if you can, and if you can, call him criminals.
00:13:44.140 It is a terrifying place we're in right now.
00:13:47.600 Do you think that this is a political gift to Joe Biden?
00:13:50.980 Would they have done this if Donald Trump had won?
00:13:53.320 I mean, this is basically the ultimate cancel culture.
00:13:56.200 This is criminalizing, calling someone a terrorist, the political opponents of Joe Biden and of Justin Trudeau.
00:14:02.740 Do you think that we're going to see this follow up in the United States?
00:14:07.340 And you just know that Trudeau and Bill Blair were on the phone to their, Bill Blair to his American counterpart.
00:14:14.600 I don't think Trudeau gets a lot of face time with Joe Biden.
00:14:19.040 But if he did, he would surely boast about this, saying, I got your back.
00:14:23.760 I'm your little, you're Batman, I'm Robin.
00:14:25.660 I'm your little sidekick up here.
00:14:26.920 Now, I don't think that they would be able to label the Proud Boys as a terrorist group in the United States simply for First Amendment reasons.
00:14:35.320 And I think they probably still have some sort of standards of proof to get on that list.
00:14:39.600 I mean, getting on that list is, I mean, it would be the secular American version of getting a fatwa. 0.50
00:14:46.280 I mean, if you were on that list, you are anathematized, you are beyond the pale, you're an outcast, and criminal law, normal criminal laws, and now terrorist laws apply to you. 0.84
00:14:58.080 If you're on that list, it is really a death list. 0.88
00:15:02.700 And I think that Trudeau's partisan RCMP are just crazy enough to try and enforce it.
00:15:13.180 I mean, I don't know where those five Halifax lads are now, but it wouldn't surprise me if every one of them is being drummed out of the military.
00:15:20.660 And it wouldn't surprise me if every one of them is getting a visit from the RCMP now.
00:15:24.560 I mean, there's literally no one else in Canada who has done anything Proud Boys-ish.
00:15:29.000 But I think that Trudeau wants to hold up some scalps and say, look at this, I caught myself some real-life Nazis.
00:15:37.680 And to basically show it to every conservative, say, Aaron O'Toole, I'm coming for you unless you join my mob.
00:15:43.520 That's what's really happened here.
00:15:45.180 The mob said, we're going to go after this group, that group, this group, that group.
00:15:49.480 We're going to go after Derek Sloan.
00:15:51.260 So Aaron O'Toole said, no, no, no, I'm not going to defend Sloan.
00:15:54.380 I'll throw him under the bus.
00:15:55.320 Okay, we're going to go after the Proud Boys. 0.94
00:15:56.560 No, no, no, I'll join with you.
00:15:58.040 And that's how the mob works.
00:15:59.660 The mob comes to your house with torches and says, are you with us against your neighbor?
00:16:07.200 Or do we torch you first and then go get the neighbor on our own?
00:16:10.840 You've got 30 seconds to decide.
00:16:12.520 Are you with the mob or do we mob you?
00:16:14.780 So it's a shakedown move.
00:16:17.620 Aaron O'Toole proves that he'll go along with the mob.
00:16:20.040 He'll join the cancel culture. 0.98
00:16:21.960 Direct contradiction of his campaign promises.
00:16:24.900 You know, I asked the other day on Twitter, can you name a single key policy of Justin Trudeau's over the last year that the O'Toole conservatives have vigorously opposed?
00:16:35.500 Like, can you name a single key policy?
00:16:38.080 The one thing I've heard from them is they disagree with how Trudeau is handling the vaccines.
00:16:44.520 They would have handled it better.
00:16:46.440 Okay.
00:16:47.000 But that's all that is, is haggling over tactics or we'll be better at what you're doing than you are.
00:16:53.000 There has not been a single substantial disagreement between O'Toole and Trudeau on anything.
00:16:59.320 Both were tepid on the Keystone Excel.
00:17:02.860 O'Toole is silent on censorship, silent on the lockdowns.
00:17:07.540 He supports the Paris Accords and a zero carbon future.
00:17:13.560 He's been silent on Western alienation.
00:17:15.980 I don't think that Aaron O'Toole actually disagrees with the liberals because he wants to be safe from their criticism.
00:17:27.480 He thinks that the next election will simply fall into his lap if he doesn't say or do anything.
00:17:33.980 I think he's deadly wrong.
00:17:35.680 I think if the election were held now, despite the vaccine fiasco, I think Aaron O'Toole would lose 40 seats.
00:17:42.660 That's how bad I think it is.
00:17:44.100 Who on earth would vote for him?
00:17:46.320 Not a true conservative and certainly not a liberal.
00:17:49.040 Who's left?
00:17:50.100 Just people who vote Tory out of habit?
00:17:52.960 Well, I suppose so.
00:17:53.820 And even that constituency is dwindling.
00:17:56.640 What would you say is his victory condition then?
00:17:58.600 What does he have to do?
00:17:59.840 What could he possibly do to win?
00:18:01.680 Or is it too late at this point?
00:18:03.520 Well, look, I don't know how soon the election is coming.
00:18:06.300 I would have thought it was coming up really soon.
00:18:07.860 But maybe the vaccine bungle is too severe.
00:18:10.980 But, I mean, if he just took rational, common-sense, conservative approaches, talk about free speech, talk about cancel culture, talk about bringing back a balance between civil liberties and the lockdowns.
00:18:22.400 Talk about getting kids back in schools.
00:18:24.540 Why won't he say that?
00:18:26.200 Talk about foreign affairs.
00:18:29.560 Talk about trans in sports.
00:18:33.740 Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau are allied on that.
00:18:36.840 I think that's a sleeper issue.
00:18:38.520 You can be respectful of anyone's identity and say, you know what?
00:18:42.360 We don't want to eliminate girls' sports. 1.00
00:18:44.660 Like, there's small issues like the trans sports thing.
00:18:47.980 And then there's big issues like free speech and cancel culture.
00:18:52.480 And then there's huge issues like civil liberties and the lockdown.
00:18:56.120 I think you can put together a new coalition.
00:18:59.340 It would include working-class people, people who have suffered under the lockdown.
00:19:03.540 The lockdown has changed the class structure of Canada.
00:19:07.420 It's no longer, you know, the left would say that, you know, the bourgeoisie and the proletariat.
00:19:14.340 Now it's, the new lines are different.
00:19:16.480 If you're a small business person or a worker who's been locked down, you are suffering from
00:19:21.900 the lockdown.
00:19:22.780 But if you are the government class, the political class, the bureaucratic class, the teachers
00:19:26.880 union class, you're loving this lockdown like never before.
00:19:30.000 If you're a restaurant owner, a gym owner, a retail owner, it's the worst thing that ever
00:19:33.360 happened to you.
00:19:34.120 I think it's realigned the world.
00:19:36.160 And that's a real opportunity for the Conservative Party.
00:19:39.160 You know, there's a book we've talked about on the show before called The Republican Workers
00:19:43.540 Party.
00:19:43.940 I think a Conservative Workers Party that stands up for guys in hard hats who want to build 0.71
00:19:50.000 Keystone Excel, stands up for mom and pop shops like the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror,
00:19:56.020 Alberta, stands up for mums who want their kids to go to school again, stands up for regular 0.67
00:20:02.460 people who don't want to watch their pronouns and regular folks who want to send their girls
00:20:07.620 to sports.
00:20:08.080 I know that I mentioned that, but I think that's a sleeper issue.
00:20:12.680 I think you put together this new coalition of working people with Conservative values and
00:20:19.780 against versus Trudeau and his elites, his insider profiteers who are loving this lockdown.
00:20:26.800 I think you've got yourself a new coalition.
00:20:29.380 And I don't think O'Toole's going to get it.
00:20:31.140 Now, it's not about him.
00:20:31.980 I mean, he has forfeited, by default, being the leader of the opposition in this country.
00:20:37.240 He isn't opposing anything.
00:20:38.700 So it falls to other institutions to do that, including to us, I put it to you.
00:20:43.480 Yeah, for sure.
00:20:44.480 Well, Ezra, thanks so much for joining me on your own show, actually, while you're in Toronto.
00:20:49.520 And we're going to be back with more after this.
00:20:53.680 Well, thanks very much, Keenan.
00:20:54.600 Thanks for holding the fort while I'm trying to get this book done.
00:20:57.180 And I appreciate you taking the work of doing the show.
00:21:00.000 No problem.
00:21:12.540 Never forget, Justin Trudeau hates you. 0.99
00:21:15.800 He hates you. 0.94
00:21:17.500 He hates everyone that doesn't vote for him. 0.99
00:21:19.660 And he's willing to label you a terrorist to prove it.
00:21:23.040 This is not what a functioning democracy looks like.
00:21:25.340 And something has to change.
00:21:28.180 I'm Keenan Bextie.
00:21:29.220 It's February 4th.
00:21:30.360 And this is the Ezra LeBan Show.