Rebel News Podcast - This week, Rebel News fought for free speech, even for our opponents

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today we've got a bit of an interesting show.

00:00:02.520 I recorded part of it on the streets of Edmonton, where I am right now.

00:00:05.800 You can probably hear the traffic in the background.

00:00:08.040 And the other part was recorded by my colleague, Kian Bextie, in our studio in Toronto.

00:00:13.260 In Edmonton, I'm talking about an interesting free speech story that I'm sort of proud of.

00:00:18.620 And in Toronto, Kian interviews one of the Conservative Party leadership candidates.

00:00:23.740 Before you get to those two very different but I think very interesting things,

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00:00:38.220 All right, here's the podcast.

00:00:43.940 You're listening to our Rebel News Podcast.

00:00:46.220 Tonight, we're fighting for freedom of speech, even for our opponents.

00:00:58.800 It's February 27th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:02.300 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:08.140 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:12.200 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:23.140 Ezra Levant here.

00:01:24.160 I'm standing literally on the street in Edmonton, Alberta.

00:01:27.820 I had a different plan for today's show.

00:01:30.500 I was going to come into Edmonton, go to the budget lockup, talk to our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed about the budget,

00:01:37.080 other taxpayers advocates, probably talk about some of the railway blockades too.

00:01:41.280 But unfortunately, things happen and my flight out of Toronto was delayed for two hours while they did some special de-icing.

00:01:48.920 I'm glad they did, of course.

00:01:50.360 Safety first.

00:01:51.040 But I want to tell you about something else that happened today at that budget lockup where I was not.

00:01:59.600 Now, Sheila Gunn-Reed was there and I'm very pleased she was.

00:02:03.260 And you'll know that that's a different outcome than what happened about four years ago

00:02:08.220 when Rachel Notley blocked Sheila Gunn-Reed and Holly Nicholas, another rebel staffer at the time,

00:02:15.080 from attending the NDP budget lockup.

00:02:18.040 Do you remember that?

00:02:19.540 It was either 2015 or 2016, going by memory.

00:02:24.160 And Sheila and Holly applied like everyone else, put their name on the list like everyone else.

00:02:29.360 And the NDP said, no, you are not allowed to cover this public event, this government event.

00:02:35.980 And when we attempted to go to another government event, public event,

00:02:39.100 Rachel Notley instructed a Justice Department lawyer to send us a formal letter on stationery of Justice Alberta

00:02:49.140 saying you are banned, you and anyone connected with you is banned.

00:02:53.600 It was a bizarre letter that I don't think the Justice Department lawyer even wanted to write.

00:02:58.820 And then if that wasn't enough, well, you remember this part.

00:03:01.160 Sheila attended at the legislature and was literally hustled out by an armed sheriff. 1.00

00:03:08.040 Remember that?

00:03:09.100 Do you have a reputation for today's event?

00:03:14.960 I have my...

00:03:15.520 We already spoke to Darcy Henton.

00:03:17.280 He said there should be no problem to come in.

00:03:19.760 One around to the property.

00:03:20.520 What?

00:03:21.060 Sorry, why is that?

00:03:22.120 I don't know.

00:03:23.260 Sorry, why?

00:03:24.340 Alright, so that was the bad old days under Rachel Notley and Sheila Gunn-Reed now is a welcome journalist amongst other journalists at that same lockup.

00:03:33.900 Well, interesting enough, a group called Progress Alberta, which is not by any, I guess, traditional measurement, a media group.

00:03:43.860 They wanted to send someone into the budget lockup too.

00:03:47.280 Now, Progress Alberta, like a group called Press Progress, is a partisan group.

00:03:53.320 Press Progress is owned by the Broadband Institute.

00:03:56.560 It tells you where they're coming from.

00:03:57.860 And Progress Alberta was a similar Alberta entity that's closely connected with the NDP.

00:04:05.580 In fact, sometimes the NDP would literally refer questions about government policy to Progress Alberta.

00:04:12.940 It's really weird.

00:04:14.400 Anyways, Progress Alberta is obviously not independent journalists.

00:04:18.600 But listen, I'm the kind of guy who says you're a journalist if you say you're a journalist.

00:04:24.080 I don't believe in putting up barriers and moats and drawbridges and only allowing the official people, the fancy people in.

00:04:32.600 That's exactly the kind of arguing that got us shut out.

00:04:36.320 The people who were fancier than us said, oh, Rebel News, that's not real journalism.

00:04:41.440 So who am I to say to Progress Alberta, well, you're just a partisan hack.

00:04:45.860 They probably would say the same thing to me.

00:04:47.400 So a reporter from Progress Alberta, and again, they're partisan, they're really a lobby group, but, you know, what do I care?

00:04:56.620 Why should they be banned?

00:04:58.200 They were banned from the budget lockup today.

00:05:03.740 And so they took a page out of our book here at The Rebel.

00:05:08.300 And I received a phone call about this a couple days ago from the law firm that was representing Progress Alberta, or at least wanted to represent them, because they're my law firm.

00:05:32.140 And I'm actually suing a member of Progress Alberta named Jim Story, because he de-platformed us in Edmonton a few months back.

00:05:43.780 If you'll recall, I had a book launch here in Edmonton at the Princess Theatre, signed contract, paid in advance, and a mob on Twitter and Facebook and email and some phone calls.

00:05:55.740 A mob terrified the owner of the Princess Theatre into ripping up that contract and breaching it.

00:06:05.040 So we're suing all the de-platformers for breach of contract and inducing breach of contract.

00:06:12.820 We're not just suing the poor theatre owner.

00:06:14.960 We're suing the people who bullied the theatre owner, scared him, into ripping up the contract.

00:06:22.300 So here's my point on that.

00:06:23.300 Jim Story was one of the people who de-platformed me.

00:06:28.840 Jim Story is with Progress Alberta, who was squawking about being de-platformed from Jason Kenney.

00:06:36.080 Jim Story's group, Progress Alberta, wanted to hire my free speech lawyers to go to bat for him to get him into the budget.

00:06:44.880 Now, I could have said no.

00:06:46.380 I'm in a conflict with him.

00:06:48.260 Our law firm is suing him.

00:06:50.260 It would be weird.

00:06:51.140 It would be ethically wrong.

00:06:52.380 It would be unprofessional.

00:06:53.540 You can't do it.

00:06:54.240 But I didn't say that.

00:06:55.720 I specifically gave permission.

00:06:57.820 I released my outstanding free speech law firm to help Jim Story's Progress Alberta and to sue a government I like, the Jason Kenney UCP government of Alberta, to make them let in my political opponents.

00:07:14.880 Not just my political opponents, people who thugishly banned me from having my book launch.

00:07:21.080 And I went one step further, if you can believe it, I wrote to the lawyers who successfully got me into the election debates federally in October when Justin Trudeau kept us out.

00:07:35.460 And I said to my successful election debates lawyers, I said, send these guys any legal research that you've done for me, save them the hassle and the time, and frankly, the cost.

00:07:48.980 Send them the free speech legal research that you already put together at my expense.

00:07:54.700 So not only did I not say, keep Progress Alberta out of the Alberta legislature, budget lockup.

00:08:02.820 Not only did I not say to my lawyers, no, no, don't help my enemy, my opponent, the people who deplatformed me, I said the opposite.

00:08:13.420 I said, give them legal representation and give them for free, I said to my other lawyers, my arguments for getting in.

00:08:21.680 And wouldn't you know it?

00:08:22.860 I don't know if they actually made use of the free legal work we did.

00:08:26.820 I don't know if they actually had the time to do it.

00:08:28.500 But I know that yesterday, they were granted emergency authorization, an emergency court order to be given the right to report on the budget, just like we won that emergency injunction in Toronto at the Federal Court of Canada, forcing Trudeau's election debate commission to let us in.

00:08:51.400 So that's why I'm standing on a street in Edmonton instead of at the legislature, instead of talking to Sheila.

00:08:58.820 I think actually at the moment I'm recording this, the budget lockup is still happening.

00:09:03.620 My flight was screwed up because of Toronto weather.

00:09:06.360 What are you going to do?

00:09:07.640 But I still believe I have stories for you that are relevant to today and stories relevant to the city of Edmonton.

00:09:14.340 Obviously, I couldn't get off the plane once we were delayed on the tarmac.

00:09:17.480 Now, one of my teammates said, why are you showing solidarity with not just a bunch of hard left-wing activists, but people who actually censored us?

00:09:30.860 Like, not just tried to censor us.

00:09:32.920 Jim's story induced a breach of contract that got me banned.

00:09:36.820 Why would I help him?

00:09:39.400 Well, the answer is I'm not helping him.

00:09:42.260 I'm helping the jurisprudence.

00:09:44.800 I'm helping the law.

00:09:46.060 One of the bases of our system of law, in Latin, it's stare decisis, which in English means stand by the precedent, stand by the decisions, which means, let me say it one more way, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

00:10:00.480 So, just like my legal victory against Justin Trudeau helped Progress Alberta get access to the Alberta legislature, Progress Alberta's access to the Alberta legislature will help me and other people and will build on this free speech jurisprudence.

00:10:21.960 There will be a body of case law where case after case after judge after judge in different jurisdictions say journalists have the right to report even if the government doesn't like them.

00:10:33.740 And I'm absolutely certain that the government of Jason Kenney does not like Progress Alberta.

00:10:38.100 I told you why.

00:10:39.920 But Justin Trudeau didn't like me and he was forced to let me in and report, or not me, but Kian Bexty and David Menzies.

00:10:47.780 Same thing with Jason Kenney and Progress Alberta.

00:10:51.980 And who knows where the next case will be?

00:10:54.360 The first was in the Federal Court of Canada in Toronto.

00:10:56.780 The next was here at a court in Edmonton.

00:10:59.280 Good.

00:10:59.760 Because we need to rebuild the case law for freedom that's been neglected in this country.

00:11:06.220 What's so interesting is that we were involved and our law firm was involved.

00:11:11.800 Where were the Edmonton Journal and other media?

00:11:15.500 Maybe they were there.

00:11:16.080 I don't know.

00:11:16.400 It all happened so quickly.

00:11:17.980 Maybe the CBC was there.

00:11:20.000 Maybe the Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star were all there trying to help.

00:11:23.800 Could be.

00:11:24.300 I actually haven't had a chance to check.

00:11:27.680 But I know that when we fought in the Federal Court of Canada in Toronto, there was no one there to help us other than our friends at True North.

00:11:36.800 There was no Canadian Civil Liberties Association.

00:11:39.740 There was no Amnesty International.

00:11:41.820 No Reporters Without Borders.

00:11:43.140 No Canadian Association of Journalists.

00:11:45.120 No Canadian Journalists for Free Expression.

00:11:47.000 None of them.

00:11:47.360 So isn't it something that we at Rebel News and you, our supporters, are helping through our efforts and our lawsuits and the financing for our lawsuits, which is crowdfunded by you, isn't it interesting that we have become a sort of Canadian Civil Liberties Association by necessity to protect ourselves?

00:12:09.340 But also, in yesterday's lawsuit and today's access, in reality, we are actually helping people across the political spectrum get their freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

00:12:22.360 And I've got to tell you, it makes me proud.

00:12:25.480 And I'm proud to say I helped hard left-wing people get their free speech.

00:12:32.260 Because if you want free speech for yourself, it's something you've got to give to your opponents too.

00:12:37.560 Folks, that's it for my monologue today.

00:12:41.040 I explained to you why I won't quite have the show I had hoped.

00:12:43.860 But I'm going to give the second half of today's show to my colleague, Kian Bextie, who's in Toronto, ironically.

00:12:51.100 And he interviewed a candidate for the Conservative Party leadership.

00:12:55.620 So you'll see that next.

00:12:57.820 Here's Kian.

00:13:07.560 And joining us now, we have Derek Sloan in studio.

00:13:14.180 Derek Sloan is a first-term MP, and he's running for the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada in the field of candidates that have already announced and been accepted.

00:13:22.820 Derek Sloan is now officially one of them.

00:13:24.940 I think you were just accepted yesterday, was it?

00:13:26.780 Two days ago.

00:13:27.540 Two days ago.

00:13:28.180 So how's the race going so far?

00:13:29.560 Good.

00:13:30.040 Yeah, we're getting around.

00:13:31.400 We're getting signatures, raising money.

00:13:34.620 And I was officially greenlit.

00:13:36.640 The days were all mixing together for me, but I believe it was two evenings ago, to my recollection.

00:13:42.940 Now, we want to introduce you to our viewers.

00:13:44.820 So we're doing this with every leadership candidate, at least the ones that have accepted.

00:13:47.740 Of course, there's one that hasn't accepted so far.

00:13:49.660 Peter McKay says he won't do an interview with us.

00:13:51.820 But we want to introduce you and all the leadership candidates to our viewers so that you can sort of say who you are.

00:13:59.580 I think a lot of our viewers are Conservative voters, and I think they're really interested to know what kind of Conservative you are.

00:14:04.480 So what would you say describes you best?

00:14:07.460 Sure.

00:14:07.720 So I'm a true Conservative.

00:14:09.640 I'm a full Conservative.

00:14:11.180 I am a social Conservative, but more than that, I'm a Conservative in all areas of life.

00:14:17.020 I believe the party needs to be bigger and bolder than it's been before.

00:14:20.500 I believe it needs to be unashamedly Conservative, and we need leadership that's willing to put Canada first, no matter what,

00:14:27.600 and be unafraid to stand up for what's best for the country and best for Canadians.

00:14:31.600 How has the Conservative Party in the past not lived up to what you're saying here,

00:14:35.800 that the party needs to be bigger and bolder and more Conservative?

00:14:39.660 Where has the party failed in that regard?

00:14:42.280 Right.

00:14:42.500 So I think that they follow the sort of common wisdom or the conventional wisdom which says,

00:14:49.600 focus only on the economy, avoid controversy as much as you can, and stick to the economy and liberal corruption.

00:14:57.140 And, you know, those are important things, but there's more to politics than just those issues.

00:15:01.400 And I think that we need to be willing to, you know, broach controversy if need be,

00:15:07.260 and be willing to stand up on all issues that affect Canadians.

00:15:12.560 Was Andrew Scheer, in his time as leader, I guess that was only just a few months after you were elected,

00:15:21.000 where was he missing the step there?

00:15:24.240 Where was he not, you know, breaching those conversations that you want to have?

00:15:28.820 So I don't think it was any one thing, I think, and you have to keep in mind that prior to being elected,

00:15:36.160 obviously, for nine months or so, I was involved in sort of the election and running up to it,

00:15:42.260 and we had internal dialogues with all the candidates and so on.

00:15:46.080 I feel that their strategy in the past election was, again, avoid controversy,

00:15:52.460 stick to the economy and sort of boutique tax credits and other sort of gimmies and goodies.

00:15:58.820 You know, that's a reasonable strategy to take, but I think that the last election shows us that that's not enough.

00:16:06.660 And frankly, it won't be enough in this upcoming election either.

00:16:10.660 Now, you spoke about strategy, and a large part of the Conservative Party's strategy in the last election was to win Quebec,

00:16:15.560 and Andrew Scheer bent over backwards to get those votes, particularly when it came to supply management,

00:16:20.600 which was a huge issue in the leadership election of 20, just a few years ago,

00:16:26.080 when Maxime Bernier was running against Andrew Scheer.

00:16:28.360 That was kind of what defined Maxime Bernier against Andrew Scheer.

00:16:31.980 Do you see supply management being an important topic of this leadership race,

00:16:36.260 or do you think Conservatives want to just ignore it?

00:16:39.000 I don't know if it's going to get brought up.

00:16:40.400 I mean, I'm not privy to the inner workings of other teams, but I don't know now of anyone who's planning on bringing it up.

00:16:48.300 I think, as I've said before, all issues need to be on the table in a parliamentary democracy.

00:16:55.000 I'll just tell you right now, I don't have anything specifically on supply management in my policy framework.

00:17:02.240 But again, I'm not afraid to have discussions on any issue.

00:17:08.240 But I will assure people in my riding, I have a lot of dairy in my riding.

00:17:12.440 And as far as the farmers in my riding, they're satisfied with the system, and they like it.

00:17:17.400 And that's sort of what I'm going on right now.

00:17:20.380 But again, I'm not afraid to have conversations, and I hope that people bring up any issue that's important to them.

00:17:26.060 Sure.

00:17:26.220 So in the stream of getting our viewers to know you better, who would you say is your political inspiration?

00:17:34.560 Well, that's a good question.

00:17:35.500 You know, I actually, it's funny you say that because I take inspiration more sometimes from generals than I do politicians.

00:17:43.840 So General Sherman, General Patton, these types of people who consistently bucked conventional wisdom,

00:17:51.780 defied conventional wisdom, and were immensely successful.

00:17:56.300 That's right now where I think we need to focus as politicians, because really, we're in a war right now.

00:18:02.220 This is a war for the type of country that Canada is, the type of country that Canada will be.

00:18:07.780 And we have to be unconventional and willing to take risks.

00:18:11.620 And those two generals I mentioned epitomize that.

00:18:15.020 And in many ways, they were thought at times to be crazy.

00:18:18.380 But history looks back on them fondly, and that's the type of leadership that we need.

00:18:23.900 So in terms of, you know, this civil war that is unfolding in Canada,

00:18:29.280 we're seeing these blockades stretch across the country, limiting our ability to transport goods,

00:18:34.620 to import goods, to export goods from Vancouver all the way to your own riding.

00:18:38.480 And Tyandonega is the blockade where blockaders were trying to light trains on fire.

00:18:43.380 How would you approach this issue that is gripping this nation differently than Trudeau is approaching it?

00:18:51.500 You know, there's two sides to this.

00:18:53.240 So, you know, the first, I'll stick to the easy side.

00:18:56.180 The law needs to be kept.

00:18:57.840 So if injunctions are issued, or if protests are occurring in places where they shouldn't be,

00:19:03.600 the law enforcement needs to enforce that. 0.85

00:19:06.180 They need to clear the tracks.

00:19:07.320 They need to make sure that our economy can function.

00:19:09.840 You know, on the other hand, it is absolutely, you know, safe and fair to say that conditions on many reserves are abysmal,

00:19:18.740 and that we need to address and deal with some of the health and other issues that we're seeing.

00:19:24.320 So there's certainly issues that need to be addressed.

00:19:29.280 The life expectancy on some of these reserves is equivalent to a third world country.

00:19:35.320 So, I mean, there are issues that need to be addressed, but it has to be done according to the law and in a law-abiding manner.

00:19:42.040 So the law must be kept.

00:19:45.340 And it's not to say that things, you know, shouldn't happen or solutions shouldn't be discussed.

00:19:50.460 But the law needs to be upheld.

00:19:52.760 And our economy can't be held hostage by, you know, and some of these people, you know,

00:19:58.960 many of these people are legitimate, sort of, you know, indigenous people with legitimate concerns.

00:20:03.900 Other people are tag-along protesters that are against any and all resource development.

00:20:08.780 So this has turned into a free-for-all,

00:20:13.560 and we can't let our economy be held hostage by a small group of radicals in some cases.

00:20:18.680 A question that Justin Trudeau tried to avoid in the House of Commons just yesterday,

00:20:22.700 sorry, not in the House of Commons, but in the precinct.

00:20:25.420 A reporter asked him if trying to light a train on fire,

00:20:29.400 as what happened just yesterday at the blockade,

00:20:32.580 is that an act of terrorism?

00:20:33.880 And I'll put that question to you.

00:20:34.920 Is it an act of terrorism to try and light a train on fire?

00:20:38.940 Yeah, it certainly could be.

00:20:40.660 I mean, my initial reaction would be to say, yes, I haven't examined the, you know,

00:20:45.200 it's certainly illegal.

00:20:46.940 Depending on, I suppose, the context, it certainly could be an act of terrorism.

00:20:50.860 But the point is, is we need to take these,

00:20:53.180 we need to take these situations very seriously,

00:20:55.480 and the law needs to be enforced.

00:20:58.080 We should do it reasonably and realistically,

00:21:00.760 and obviously try to avoid violence, but it must be enforced.

00:21:04.300 Now, to move a little bit farther west,

00:21:06.380 Michelle Rempel and a cohort,

00:21:07.940 a cohort of Albertan MPs before the Buffalo Declaration just last week,

00:21:12.720 in it there was a list of demands saying that

00:21:14.880 if these things don't change in Confederation,

00:21:17.440 Alberta might not see itself as a part of Confederation.

00:21:21.660 Why do you think that that Buffalo Declaration,

00:21:24.860 first off, only had four MPs signing?

00:21:28.080 Do you think it perhaps doesn't represent Alberta caucus?

00:21:31.220 Were you consulted on it as an MP from Ontario?

00:21:34.200 Can you give us any insight on what happened there?

00:21:36.500 So I was not personally consulted on that.

00:21:38.420 I don't know the inner workings,

00:21:41.180 particularly of the Alberta caucus.

00:21:42.600 As we all meet differently, provincially.

00:21:45.440 And furthermore, I've been very busy with this leadership race,

00:21:47.820 so I'm not as tuned in to those recent conversations.

00:21:51.440 I would only be speculating.

00:21:53.380 I would say, though, that the issues in Alberta right now are very important,

00:21:57.860 and largely, in my view,

00:21:59.940 come from just the hammering that the economy is taking out there

00:22:04.100 with respect to resource development.

00:22:06.340 There are obviously other issues that simmer,

00:22:08.020 but I think that they simmer louder and at a much higher temperature

00:22:11.800 when we see things like the tech pullout.

00:22:14.900 So that's my take on it as an outsider,

00:22:19.600 as not part of the Alberta caucus.

00:22:21.720 Now, back out to Ottawa,

00:22:24.040 Stephen Gilboa today just said that his ministry

00:22:26.560 is going to be following up with the recommendations

00:22:28.300 of making sure that online media companies

00:22:32.420 will have to register with the government.

00:22:34.180 Have you been up to date on that?

00:22:35.700 What are your thoughts on media organizations

00:22:37.580 registering with the government?

00:22:38.660 Do you think that this represents a collapse

00:22:41.100 of the fifth estate in Canada?

00:22:43.900 Yeah, so I'm not super up to date with it,

00:22:47.480 but I get the gist of it, basically.

00:22:49.560 It seems like they are going to be,

00:22:52.220 in some way, potentially limiting the ability

00:22:54.080 of online news organizations to exist,

00:22:56.940 or maybe they have to follow certain parameters.

00:22:59.360 I think that's a big mistake.

00:23:01.140 I think that secondary media sources

00:23:04.520 or online media sources

00:23:05.760 can be very valuable sources of information.

00:23:09.060 Obviously, not all of them,

00:23:10.200 but that's what a free society is about.

00:23:12.460 We examine the information that we see

00:23:14.560 and we make our conclusions.

00:23:16.300 The idea that the government would somehow

00:23:18.100 be regulating how that works,

00:23:20.620 to me, is frightening.

00:23:22.820 What can we expect from your leadership campaign

00:23:26.980 in the months ahead

00:23:27.760 as we move towards the vote and the debates?

00:23:30.420 What does your campaign want to be talking about?

00:23:32.180 What are the issues that you think

00:23:33.340 Canadians are facing right now?

00:23:35.620 Yeah, so you're going to be seeing

00:23:36.560 a bunch of policy announcements coming from me.

00:23:38.560 We're going to have some very big announcements

00:23:40.800 coming in the space of free speech

00:23:43.440 and things related to that.

00:23:44.580 So I encourage people to follow me on Twitter

00:23:46.300 and on Facebook to keep ahead of those announcements.

00:23:49.240 We hope to come out with a variety of big and bold ideas

00:23:53.000 that represent, in our view,

00:23:54.880 where the party should be headed.

00:23:56.640 And I hope to influence the party

00:23:59.680 in terms of the policies they adopt

00:24:01.820 by coming out with some of these big and bold ideas.

00:24:04.220 So I encourage people to follow me.

00:24:06.160 Where can they do that?

00:24:07.000 On Twitter?

00:24:07.460 What's your handbook?

00:24:07.800 Yeah, so Twitter is just MP Derek Sloan

00:24:10.400 and then Facebook is, I believe,

00:24:12.520 Derek Sloan Leadership.

00:24:13.940 All right.

00:24:14.440 Now, one last question that I have.

00:24:15.920 You've positioned yourself here

00:24:17.300 as a social conservative,

00:24:18.600 which is a blue Tory.

00:24:21.420 And two of the leadership candidates,

00:24:23.920 Aaron O'Toole and Peter McKay,

00:24:25.220 are both trying to put themselves in a position,

00:24:28.100 Aaron O'Toole more so than Peter McKay.

00:24:29.780 Peter McKay likes to sort of live in that PC limelight.

00:24:33.200 But Aaron O'Toole specifically

00:24:34.840 has been trying to brand himself as a blue Tory.

00:24:37.040 Do you see him as a blue Tory?

00:24:39.460 Well, Aaron is known in the circles that I travel

00:24:42.640 as essentially being a red Tory,

00:24:43.980 and I think that's his traditional reputation.

00:24:47.180 He has been saying things that, in my view,

00:24:49.560 are very good.

00:24:50.160 I'm not going to undercut him in that way.

00:24:52.340 I like the things that he's saying.

00:24:54.020 In all honesty, I feel sometimes he's borrowing

00:24:55.920 from some of the messaging that I'm putting out there,

00:24:57.880 and that's fine.

00:24:59.780 But I do believe,

00:25:01.480 I hope to be a candidate

00:25:03.240 that resonates with all conservatives

00:25:05.360 and has the sort of bold ideas

00:25:07.520 that conservatives might talk about

00:25:09.580 over a beer or something,

00:25:11.000 but wouldn't think that anyone

00:25:12.000 would have the guts to do.

00:25:13.460 So those are the types of things

00:25:14.960 that I hope to bring out in my policies

00:25:16.900 over the next four to five weeks.

00:25:19.420 And we'll let the conservative membership

00:25:21.820 be the judge of who they feel is,

00:25:25.360 you know, the best brand for the party.

00:25:29.240 All right, Derek.

00:25:29.740 Thanks for coming in studio

00:25:30.600 and joining us here today.

00:25:32.400 It was a pleasure meeting you,

00:25:34.300 and I think that our viewers

00:25:35.220 appreciate you taking the time

00:25:36.700 to come and chat with us.

00:25:38.240 Thank you so much.

00:25:39.100 Appreciate it.

00:25:39.540 And that was Derek Sloan

00:25:41.320 in studio here today in Toronto.

00:25:43.480 We're going to try our best

00:25:45.080 to have every single leadership candidate

00:25:46.980 come in and introduce themselves to you.

00:25:50.320 Stay tuned for more.

00:25:51.040 Well, that's our show from today,

00:26:02.420 recorded partly on the streets of Edmonton

00:26:05.320 and partly in our studio back in Toronto

00:26:08.380 for all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters

00:26:10.820 to you around the world.

00:26:12.820 Good night and keep fighting for freedom,

00:26:15.760 including for your political opponents.

00:26:21.040 We'll be right back.

00:26:30.940 Thank you.

00:26:34.820 Thank you.

00:26:36.380 Thank you.

00:26:36.820 Thank you.

00:26:37.860 Thank you.

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Rebel News Podcast - February 28, 2020

This week, Rebel News fought for free speech, even for our opponents

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