Rebel News Podcast - Toronto Star hails McKenna as top “business” leader — while she helps destroy Canada’s economy (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)

00:00:00.000 The Toronto Star says Canada's Environment Minister Catherine McKenna is one of the top five people to watch in business in 2019.

00:00:10.020 Watch in business or watch if she gets near your business. It's January 8th of 2019.

00:00:15.560 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:24.140 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:27.720 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:31.780 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:35.120 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:45.540 You know, we really haven't heard all that much from Canada's ever-present Environment Minister Catherine McKenna in 2019.

00:00:53.040 Really, since the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Katowice, Poland at the beginning of December.

00:00:59.000 Now, just as Canada was headed into that conference, the United Nations released a report that singled out Canada as one of the G20 countries on track to miss its emissions goals for 2020.

00:01:12.160 Those emissions targets mean a reduction of emissions to 17% below the 2005 level.

00:01:21.020 Now, to meet those emissions targets, it will mean a purposeful stagnation of the Canadian economy.

00:01:28.020 And the United Nations report acknowledges that.

00:01:31.140 They actually say that a catastrophic recession, or depression, in Canada's economy would be the only way now that Canada could meet those emissions goals.

00:01:41.720 It's right here, hidden in the sixth paragraph.

00:01:45.340 Canada, which represented 1.6% of global emissions in 2016, is one of the six G20 countries that, short of enduring a low-growth economics scenario, will likely miss its 2020 target of reducing emissions to 17% below the 2005 level.

00:02:04.660 And the Liberals know this.

00:02:06.480 They know they have to destroy parts of the Canadian economy to meet their emissions targets.

00:02:12.620 And here's the scary part.

00:02:14.540 They're willing to do it.

00:02:16.040 All we have to do is listen to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

00:02:19.800 Here.

00:02:20.480 I've said time and time again, and you're all tired of hearing me say it, you can't make a choice between what's good for the environment and what's good for the economy.

00:02:29.080 We can't shut down the oil sands tomorrow.

00:02:32.420 We need to phase them out.

00:02:34.480 That low-economic growth scenario that the UN says is necessary for Canada to meet their Paris Agreement targets?

00:02:42.540 Welcome to Alberta.

00:02:43.900 And at the same time, that so-called climate criminal to the south of us, President Donald Trump, who drew United Nations ire for withdrawing his country from the Paris Accord, has been more successful than the moral preening Canadian government at reducing greenhouse gas emissions, while at the same time experiencing record economic growth in the economy.

00:03:07.080 According to EPA data, greenhouse gas emissions, now let me preface that by saying, if you care about those sorts of things, and I don't, have declined 2.7% since Trump first took office in 2016.

00:03:20.200 And at the same time, as those greenhouse gas emissions are falling in the United States, their GDP growth rate has reached 4%.

00:03:29.320 The United Nations should be touting Trump as a climate hero and looking towards him for answers.

00:03:35.760 Instead, he's vilified by both the media and the United Nations time and time again.

00:03:41.260 And Canada's Environment Minister Catherine McKenna, by the United Nations' own measures, has worked out to be a total failure.

00:03:48.920 But she continues to get treated like an angel in the media, like some sort of messianic character, who's going to save us all from our oil-addicted selves. 0.99

00:03:59.560 A couple of days ago, in one of the endless listicles that we all get at the beginning of every year, the Toronto star named McKenna as their number one person to watch in business in 2019.

00:04:12.420 Look at this ridiculous statement here.

00:04:16.320 McKenna has the right stuff for the job.

00:04:19.800 Among the most impressive delegates at the landmark Paris Climate Change Summit in 2015, McKenna helped her boss successfully press for more ambitious CO2 emission targets than the worldwide summit delegates thought possible.

00:04:36.760 But she's failing.

00:04:37.780 Sorry, star.

00:04:38.380 McKenna's not the number one person to watch in business.

00:04:41.080 She's the number one person out to destroy your business. 1.00

00:04:45.560 Just ask the TransCanada Pipeline Company.

00:04:49.120 When Catherine McKenna and the Liberal government changed the pipeline approval rules halfway through the process,

00:04:56.240 TransCanada abandoned their nation-building Energy East pipeline project that would take oil from Alberta to refineries in the east of Canada.

00:05:06.360 And they reinvested in pipelines in the United States instead.

00:05:11.720 McKenna is a job killer who can't even manage to parlay that into the environmental success story the U.N. says massive job losses should be.

00:05:21.580 But McKenna's got the media on her side, and $600 million in a media bailout buys you a lot of spin.

00:05:28.920 Stay with us.

00:05:30.260 More up next after the break.

00:05:32.540 So joining me now is somebody that I met in Poland when I was at the United Nations Climate Change Conference.

00:05:56.060 And he was somebody I never thought I would come across when I was in Poland, and that was another skeptical journalist,

00:06:03.140 someone who is skeptical of both the United Nations and of the whole climate change agenda.

00:06:10.360 So joining me now from somewhere in a log cabin in Scandinavia, which sounds perfectly ideal to me, is Alex Newman from The New American.

00:06:19.160 Hey, Alex, thanks for joining me.

00:06:20.900 Hey, thank you so much for having me, Sheila.

00:06:22.260 It's a pleasure to be with you.

00:06:23.120 Yeah, I wanted to check back in with you, because since we came home from Poland,

00:06:28.260 there's been a lot of crazy things sort of happening in the climate change debate,

00:06:33.640 or rather the lack thereof debate.

00:06:37.260 I wanted to touch base with you, especially because you are American,

00:06:41.240 even though you're in Scandinavia right now.

00:06:43.720 Bernie Sanders has been saying some crazy things about climate change.

00:06:47.460 He said that we should start treating climate change like a devastating military attack.

00:06:53.640 That makes me nervous, because when there are devastating military attacks, that often means an attack on the freedom of the citizens, right?

00:07:02.300 Like, that's usually where this stuff sort of goes.

00:07:06.080 Yeah, and, you know, we're getting a lot of that kind of rhetoric from the political class,

00:07:11.340 at least the left side of the political class in the United States.

00:07:15.980 They're almost echoing the rhetoric exactly of Mr. Antonio Guterres, the Secretary General of the United Nations.

00:07:22.600 You know, during the conference in Katowice, he stood up, and in his beginning speech, the one that kicked off the conference,

00:07:28.900 he said, we need to use this climate action to transform the world, were the terms that he used.

00:07:35.400 He said, we can make social changes, economic changes, environmental changes.

00:07:40.100 Then, you know, a few weeks later, you had this socialist, the new socialist in the U.S. Congress,

00:07:46.020 Representative Ocasio-Cortez, using the exact same language.

00:07:49.480 We're going to use climate action to fundamentally transform our society, our economy.

00:07:55.060 They're talking about now this new Green Deal, where the government's going to take over all these industries.

00:07:59.820 And we are dealing with people here who are seizing on this issue for ideological reasons.

00:08:06.200 They want to use it as a pretext to fundamentally transform our entire society, as Barack Obama put it when he was president.

00:08:13.820 You know, I think Bernie Sanders is in for a bit of a rude awakening when he figures out who has all the guns in his coming climate change civil war.

00:08:24.780 I think that's not going to go over the way he thinks it does.

00:08:27.620 And that's another thing I wanted to touch on with you, because you did write a really great article from the conference in Poland about how the UN climate change boss does want to transform the world, really, using climate change as the vehicle to do it.

00:08:46.520 Which is actually a rare bit of honesty from the United Nations, because they are saying it is not about climate change.

00:08:55.480 It's not about the weather. It's not about extreme weather events.

00:08:58.780 It's really a vehicle to rewrite the economic structures of the world to change from capitalism to socialism to ultimately Marxism.

00:09:07.360 And we we rarely see them be this honest with us.

00:09:12.420 That's right. And, you know, I think that's what people need to understand.

00:09:15.700 They talk about climate and CO2 levels and global temperatures and see that.

00:09:20.020 But really, what you need to see through all of this is the real agenda.

00:09:23.660 And that is, as some of these guys have told us in the open to transform everything.

00:09:28.340 And when they say transform, they're actually not talking about something new and unprecedented.

00:09:32.240 If you look at what they're advocating, for example, if you go read the speech of Antonio Guterres when he opened up the COP24 in Poland, he is talking about a return to socialism.

00:09:42.660 And, you know, we shouldn't be surprised by this.

00:09:45.320 Antonio Guterres was the head of the Socialist International before becoming the head of the United Nations.

00:09:49.880 For people out there who don't know the Socialist International, it is the biggest global alliance of socialist parties, Marxist parties, communist parties.

00:09:57.440 Some of these are just rebranded versions of the communist parties that 30, 40 years ago were slaughtering innocent people.

00:10:05.280 Right. I mean, some of these parties have the blood of millions of innocent people on their hands.

00:10:09.820 And so when they talk about transforming the world and seizing control of the economy and sustainability, where they say we need to control consumption and production.

00:10:18.220 So, you know, I've seen this movie before and it doesn't end well.

00:10:20.800 It ends in shortages and horror and very bad things, persecution of dissidents.

00:10:28.360 It's interesting. Just today, by coincidence, I had a very, very nice interview with Dr. Nils Axelmorner, who is the lead C-level reviewer for the UN IPCC back in the early 2000s.

00:10:42.060 And, you know, they loved him.

00:10:42.900 This guy's the world's top expert on C-level.

00:10:45.340 So the UN wanted to have his name as somebody with credentials to lend credence to what they were pushing.

00:10:50.600 And he said, wait a minute here.

00:10:52.340 This isn't true.

00:10:53.500 You can't publish this stuff.

00:10:55.000 This is not true.

00:10:56.100 The sea level is not rising at an accelerated rate.

00:10:58.200 It's not a danger to anyone.

00:10:59.580 Nobody's going to be flooded.

00:11:00.740 None of the cities are going to have a problem.

00:11:02.240 And I've been measuring this for 50 years.

00:11:04.440 So I asked him, you know, if it's not really about CO2 and climate and the oceans, what is it about?

00:11:09.740 And he said very clearly, this is about globalism.

00:11:11.660 They want to move power from the nation state to regional and then global governing systems.

00:11:17.380 And that's what it's really about.

00:11:18.700 You know, if you listen to what these UN people say, they will tell you.

00:11:22.620 You just have to listen closely.

00:11:24.020 Sure, the Washington Compost and the New York Slimes are not going to break it down for you on the front page.

00:11:28.620 But, you know, the last head of the UN FCCC, Cristiana Figueres, the one who opened the UN Climate Summit in Cancun with a prayer to Ixchel.

00:11:37.100 She said it was the goddess of creativity.

00:11:38.660 Turns out it was the goddess of war, human sacrifice and cannibalism. 1.00

00:11:42.560 But anyways, she told us what's happening here in this climate process is a fundamental restructuring of the economy of the world.

00:11:50.080 And that's what people need to understand, Sheila.

00:11:52.180 You know, it's really scary.

00:11:53.820 As you were talking about, you know, just the death count from communism, it struck me that the death count from environmentalism could wander somewhere in that area over time.

00:12:06.160 And when you think about denying people in the developing world, electricity, cheap, affordable, coal-fired electricity.

00:12:13.580 We know that electrification is directly related to infant and maternal mortality rates in developing countries.

00:12:23.060 So when we are denying those people electricity and fossil fuels, really, we're condemning them to a short, miserable, horrible life.

00:12:33.100 But they're just a sacrifice, a stepping stone, I suppose, into rewriting how humanity governs itself.

00:12:41.460 It's really quite terrible.

00:12:42.520 Now, you talked about that great segue.

00:12:45.440 Thank you, by the way.

00:12:47.780 You actually talked about, you know, the New York Times and how other mainstream media is sort of failing to provide balance on this.

00:12:55.460 And I stumbled across an article actually at The New American where they talk about how Meet the Press has dropped all objectivity when it comes to covering the issue of climate change.

00:13:07.800 So there will be no other side of the debate because the debate is over, I suppose.

00:13:14.560 Yeah.

00:13:15.120 And, you know, that's the attitude they have to take now.

00:13:17.440 I hope the viewers will go check out the interview I did with Neil Zuxian-Morner because he has so much insight on this.

00:13:23.440 You know, he just ridicules this idea that 97 percent of scientists agree.

00:13:26.780 He says, you know, among geologists, it's like almost none agree with this hysteria.

00:13:32.120 He was a paleo-geophysicist.

00:13:33.780 He says among physicists, like 80, 90 percent know this is a hoax.

00:13:37.760 He said it's all a lie.

00:13:39.160 And real scientists know this.

00:13:40.920 This is an incredible embarrassment to science.

00:13:44.420 But now all that they have left is to try to pretend like the other side of the debate doesn't exist.

00:13:49.420 And, of course, this is not a sustainable long-term strategy.

00:13:51.960 Even in the Soviet Union, when Stalin fell in love with the theories of Lysenko and started jailing and persecuting and torturing and terrorizing everybody who would not go along with it, the truth still came out in the end because the truth is going to come out in the end.

00:14:05.280 But, you know, again, to go back to what you were saying earlier about the consequences of this, you know, it's funny if you're kind of on the outside looking at this.

00:14:12.940 Oh, my goodness, what ridiculous hysteria. 0.68

00:14:15.000 But when you translate it into human terms, you know, I grew up in Latin America and Africa. 0.90

00:14:19.840 I've been through the slums of Sao Paulo and Cape Town and Johannesburg.

00:14:22.940 These people, you know, if they're lucky, they can cook their dinner on dung or some sticks they found in a forest.

00:14:28.340 It is not OK to sentence these kinds of people to live in absolute poverty because some greenie in Canada or Sweden or the United States or Norway wants to feel better about their carbon footprint. 0.86

00:14:41.640 You know, that is simply not OK.

00:14:43.420 And when we start realizing that the policies these people are advocating not only aren't humanitarian, but they're devastating to the most vulnerable people in the world.

00:14:51.740 And then when you realize it's all being done under the guise of climate change, which, you know, the man-made global warming hypothesis, which is a hoax, if you actually investigate and you talk to the scientists, including the UN's own scientists like Dr. Neal, Dr. Morner, then you realize we are dealing with something that is just, to quote Dr. Morner, evil.

00:15:11.260 Right.

00:15:11.380 This is just absolutely nuts that humanity could have gone this far down the path.

00:15:15.600 But it's no surprise that they're not willing to talk, because if they talk about this, people will very quickly, you know, if they allow both sides to be heard, people will very quickly realize who has the facts on their side.

00:15:26.080 And, you know, whether there's a 97 percent of something or the other, it doesn't matter.

00:15:29.960 The facts are very clear.

00:15:31.280 And that's why I think they're trying to shut down the debate like this.

00:15:34.460 You know, when I was in Morocco, I think that's what struck me the most.

00:15:38.620 When I was there two years ago, I guess it would have been for the Climate Change Conference in Marrakesh.

00:15:43.420 And it struck me the dichotomy between the two Moroccos. 0.95

00:15:48.700 There was this Morocco for the elites, the global elites who flew in and flew out and where they went to this fake little UN complex.

00:16:01.340 And once you get inside, it's very strange in there.

00:16:04.200 It's very weird and different and separate from the rest of the city.

00:16:09.700 And it struck me just the two Moroccos, the poor people who are cooking on open fires and old fashioned open air ovens on their rooftops in Morocco, 1.00

00:16:21.640 who are buying their meat from butcher shops that don't have refrigeration because it's just not something they have there versus the high end selection of food for the UN delegates who are completely separate from reality in Morocco.

00:16:39.380 But now that I'm thinking back, that really is an overlay for how these UN global elitists treat the rest of us.

00:16:48.040 They are separate.

00:16:48.840 They live in a different reality and they don't ever want to see how the rest of us have to live.

00:16:55.220 Oh, my goodness.

00:16:56.080 You just hit the nail on the head so perfectly.

00:16:58.840 And that's what it's like at so many of these UN conferences.

00:17:01.360 You know, we went to the Sustainable Development Conference down in Rio and you have these guys showing up in private jets, getting into, you know, fleets of Mercedes limousines, armored and tinted windows.

00:17:11.740 And then you see the poor people digging through the trash can, seeing if they can find some crumbs outside of the conference that these elitists threw away in the garbage can.

00:17:19.540 It is so grotesque to have these government bureaucrats squandering billions of dollars on themselves.

00:17:27.040 And then trillions when you add in all the money they've spent on the pseudoscience, on the marketing, on the conferences, all the malinvestment that's occurred as a result of this.

00:17:35.340 Because it's, you know, it's just unconscionable.

00:17:37.900 And I hope, you know, the other side likes to claim that they are the humanitarians.

00:17:41.680 They're the ones who want to do the right thing for people.

00:17:44.040 When you actually boil this issue down, it is exactly the opposite.

00:17:48.240 The scientists who have looked at this and are speaking out, the people who are calling, you know, even the people who agree with the theory and have called out the fraud.

00:17:56.040 People like Bjorn Lundberg in Copenhagen, who's run the U.N.'s own numbers, even if you believe the U.N.'s theory, you're going to condemn people to poverty to make basically no difference whatsoever on the climate.

00:18:07.960 You realize that this is it's gone so far past the point of insanity.

00:18:11.780 And it really is about dividing the world up into two separate classes.

00:18:15.620 There's them and then there's all the rest of us.

00:18:17.940 Right. And they fly in on private jets and they lecture us about how we need to ride our bicycle.

00:18:22.800 It's it's so obscene. And I just I you know, I wish we could show it to people in the Western world because all they see is the you know, the carefully packaged photographs from the the fake news.

00:18:33.700 And, you know, they see all the speeches from the diplomats.

00:18:36.380 We just want to make the world a better place. But they don't see what's really going on there.

00:18:40.480 And, you know, that's why I value what you guys do so much.

00:18:42.900 And, you know, all the alternative media out there that's trying to get out the real story.

00:18:46.960 And I think, fortunately, that's why the alternative media is growing so much.

00:18:49.700 People have realized they're not going to get the truth, whether on climate or anything else from the from the fake media.

00:18:55.160 And so now people are looking for alternatives. And I think that's a very good thing.

00:18:59.660 We've got a lot of work still to do. But I do think, especially in the United States, people have woken up.

00:19:04.000 You know, our president ran on a platform of, hey, the manmade global warming theory is a hoax.

00:19:08.160 And he won. Right. So people are clearly waking up. And that's a very good thing.

00:19:12.140 Well, and, you know, to touch on President Trump, greenhouse gas emissions in the United States, if you care about those sorts of things, are actually going down, I suppose, in no small part due to our friend fracking.

00:19:28.480 But if you care about those things, it is possible to move forward and and reduce greenhouse gas emissions without hobbling the economy.

00:19:36.260 But I think hobbling the economy is part of the plan for that introduction of socialism.

00:19:44.040 You were talking about sort of showing the other side of these conferences when we were in Morocco.

00:19:50.520 Some of our most popular videos that we did when we were there was showing just how fossil fuel dependent these conferences are, despite their claims to the contrary.

00:20:05.520 In Morocco, I don't know if you were in the press room there, but I came home from Morocco with a bad cold because they had the air conditioning up so high in the desert

00:20:18.020 that I was wearing a sweater and my nose ran the whole time and that was just to keep the journalists comfortable.

00:20:24.720 They would water the desert every morning to keep the dust off the fancy people's expensive shoes before they came in to these conferences where they would then tell everybody that, you know,

00:20:39.760 you only should shower every other day and flush your toilet every couple of times that you use it to save water.

00:20:46.140 In the meantime, they're literally, literally watering the desert in a place where water is really a commodity for the poor.

00:20:54.700 And those were some of our most popular journalistic pieces when we were there because people want to see that side.

00:21:02.500 They don't want to see the polished lies.

00:21:04.400 They want to see the truth.

00:21:05.500 And that really was the truth of what we were reporting on there.

00:21:08.260 Yeah. And, you know, that's been our experience at every single one of these in Rio.

00:21:12.740 The Qatar delegation sent a private car to come get us to go to their tent.

00:21:17.780 They were blasting AC into an open air tent in Rio de Janeiro.

00:21:23.460 Unbelievable. You know, the amount of waste that goes into these things.

00:21:27.060 And then you realize they do this every year, traveling around exotic destinations around the world on your dime,

00:21:32.340 consuming massive amounts of resources.

00:21:35.600 And then you see, too, the people who are pushing this.

00:21:38.260 You know, the Energy and Environment Legal Institute, it's a think tank in the United States that focuses on these issues.

00:21:43.440 They came out with a report, I think a couple of years ago now,

00:21:46.280 on how the Rockefeller dynasty got involved in promoting this climate scam and how they poured massive amounts of money into it.

00:21:52.960 You know, they are the oil baron dynasty.

00:21:56.340 I mean, they made their fortune in oil.

00:21:57.780 And here they are bankrolling all these pseudo green groups to complain about climate change.

00:22:03.060 These are some of the richest people in the world bankrolling a movement to tell all the rest of us that we need to make do with less,

00:22:09.320 that we need lower standard of living, that we need to give up more of our money and our freedom under the guise of climate change.

00:22:14.680 It is an absolute farce.

00:22:16.000 And, in fact, our Senate looked into this as well.

00:22:17.900 The U.S. Senate, we have a committee there, the Environment and Public Works Committee.

00:22:22.260 They came out with a brilliant report, I think it was in 2014, where they described what they called the Billionaires Club.

00:22:29.900 And they identified all these different billionaires, you know, extremely wealthy people who had almost created the green movement.

00:22:38.160 They were funding a bunch of activists who probably were totally clueless to go out there and demand less freedom, less money, more globalism.

00:22:45.300 And when you realize that, you know, these are people who have everything, these people were born with a silver spoon in their mouth,

00:22:51.040 and they want to take away the ability of a poor person to even heat up their own food or stay warm in the winter.

00:22:57.580 It's just absolutely obscene.

00:22:59.340 It's grotesque.

00:23:00.080 And in my opinion, it's criminal.

00:23:01.780 You know, I'm so glad to hear an American journalist touch on just how meddlesome and horrible the Rockefeller Foundation is.

00:23:10.060 They have had a campaign directed at Canada's oil patch for at least 10 years.

00:23:17.580 Likewise with the American Foundation, the Tides Foundation, they have been funding Canadian environmentalists on the ground to block Canadian pipelines to tidewater.

00:23:29.580 Because as you know, the price differential between Canadian oil versus West Texas Intermediate is sometimes around $50 a barrel.

00:23:38.600 Canadians are losing millions of dollars a day on our oil because we can't get it to export markets.

00:23:45.920 The United States is our only customer.

00:23:48.100 And this is the kind of foreign collusion that should drive people crazy. 0.51

00:23:54.440 This is worse than any sort of so-called Russian collusion that may or may not exist.

00:23:59.880 It doesn't.

00:24:01.340 But I mean, they're hobbling the Canadian economy.

00:24:05.600 They've hobbled my entire province and it's directly funded by American foundations and nobody seems to care about it.

00:24:16.040 So I'm so pleased to hear an American journalist actually know something about it and really care.

00:24:23.540 Now, I wanted to ask you something else.

00:24:26.420 Another thing that you wrote about when you were at the Climate Change Conference in Poland.

00:24:31.620 Something we've actually already touched on, just how anti-human the climate change movement is.

00:24:38.200 Al Gore sees the climate change agenda as a vehicle towards population control.

00:24:44.420 Now, they never ever say whose population is being controlled or by whom.

00:24:49.980 But I'm willing to guess it's not Al Gore's.

00:24:53.240 It's probably yours and mine.

00:24:54.660 I mean, that's exactly right.

00:24:57.020 It's so funny, the hypocrisy, too. 0.55

00:24:58.900 You know, Al Gore's got four children of his own.

00:25:01.580 Then Ted Turner, another one of these big population controls.

00:25:04.800 It's actually got a chance to ask him a couple of questions down in Rio de Janeiro where he was down there promoting population control.

00:25:10.020 Turns out he's got five children.

00:25:11.960 Right.

00:25:12.080 So it's always us who need to not have children and not consume resources and ride our bikes and all the rest of it.

00:25:18.520 But there is, you know, a very, very sinister side to this movement.

00:25:21.900 And they typically don't talk about it in terms that would alarm people.

00:25:25.440 They couch it in.

00:25:26.420 Oh, we just need population control because there's pressure on the Earth's resources and things like this. 0.69

00:25:31.600 But Al Gore gave some really interesting hints about his agenda.

00:25:34.160 He put up some graphs there and I actually sat through his whole speech in Poland, which is probably a waste of an hour.

00:25:40.740 But it did it did produce an article for me.

00:25:42.820 And people like to read about Al Gore because he's wrong so often.

00:25:45.080 And of course, it snowed when he arrived.

00:25:46.480 Right.

00:25:47.000 But he put up these graphs on there and he showed the population of China, which had leveled off.

00:25:52.880 And he didn't explain how that was achieved.

00:25:55.360 If he had gone a little further, he would have pointed out that this involves some of the most barbarous policies you can imagine.

00:26:02.200 Right. In China, with working with Planned Parenthood and with the U.N. Population Fund.

00:26:06.740 And this has come out in congressional hearings in the United States.

00:26:09.580 They have enforced a one child policy for many decades.

00:26:12.640 Now it's two children.

00:26:13.460 It's just as brutal.

00:26:14.180 But you're allowed to have two.

00:26:16.520 And this involves forced abortions. 1.00

00:26:18.500 Right.

00:26:18.620 If they find a pregnant woman who has already exceeded her quota of babies. 1.00

00:26:22.420 So she already has one baby. 0.99

00:26:24.220 They will literally strap the woman to a table and kill her baby on purpose. 0.85

00:26:29.120 You know, they talk about we're pro-choice actors. 0.64

00:26:30.700 They're not pro-choice.

00:26:31.380 They are pro-death activists.

00:26:33.220 And this is the lengths they're willing to go to to suppress the human population.

00:26:37.180 The U.N. has a whole agency, the U.N. Population Fund, that runs around.

00:26:40.820 They put out a report a couple of years ago about how there's too many Africans.

00:26:43.320 How are we going to get the Africans to stop having babies? 1.00

00:26:45.660 I mean, this is so racist. 0.98

00:26:46.840 If a conservative said something like that, you know, they'd be tarred and feathered by the next morning.

00:26:50.980 And yet the U.N. does it with our tax money and no one complains.

00:26:54.080 So Al Gore actually showed on his thing.

00:26:55.880 Well, here's the population of Africans and it's still going up. 0.99

00:26:58.540 And here's the Chinese. 0.92

00:26:59.320 Look how great they did.

00:27:00.420 And, you know, when you start listening, when you start picking up on these little cues, a whole bunch of the U.N. climate people have praised communist China.

00:27:09.120 Cristiano Figueres, who we talked about earlier, said China is doing it right on climate policies.

00:27:14.640 And in Copenhagen, I was actually at the U.N. climate summit where the Chinese delegation said, hey, our one child policy has resulted in 300 million fewer births.

00:27:23.560 If you add this much CO2 emissions per human, you can see that we've drastically reduced our CO2 emissions by cutting the population.

00:27:30.400 And all I could think to myself was, yeah, how many forced abortions did you do to get those numbers?

00:27:35.000 How many women did you terrorize? 1.00

00:27:36.400 How many husbands did you beat up so you could kidnap their wives and kill their babies? 1.00

00:27:40.120 This is absolutely sick. 0.95

00:27:41.800 And I hope people will realize that these people are not your friend and they will go to extreme lengths to bring your life, your family, your freedom under their control.

00:27:51.560 That's, you know, it's really disgusting when you think about somebody doing the math on aborted babies and their lifelong CO2 emissions.

00:28:04.680 It's just horrific.

00:28:06.200 And really, where are the feminists on this? 1.00

00:28:08.180 Not only are they terrorizing women, but we know that it's baby girls that are ending up in a garbage can. 1.00

00:28:14.620 It is, by and large, baby girls.

00:28:16.940 There's a missing generation of girls in China. 1.00

00:28:19.140 And the feminists are completely silent because then they'll have to say that abortion is an inherent wrong. 1.00

00:28:26.120 That's right.

00:28:26.960 And, you know, and I just wish, you know, the pro-choice, if you're really pro-choice, why are you not speaking out about this?

00:28:32.840 When you have the United Nations, your tax money going to this, and this has been exposed in official congressional hearings.

00:28:38.640 It's so grotesque.

00:28:40.080 But, you know, this attitude, Sheila, permeates the whole U.N. 0.91

00:28:43.480 I have a poster from the U.N. Sustainable Development Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 2012 just seared into my brain.

00:28:52.100 They had this kind of anthropomorphic earth.

00:28:54.560 It had eyes and a nose and a thermometer sticking out.

00:28:57.060 It was obviously sick.

00:28:58.420 And then the doctor comes and he says, I know your problem.

00:29:02.200 You have humans.

00:29:03.980 Humans, right?

00:29:04.820 So this attitude that humans are a disease or they're a cancer on the world and that the U.N. is going to save us from this scourge of humans, you know, it just flies in the face of everything that we see.

00:29:16.480 Right.

00:29:16.640 Children are a blessing.

00:29:17.780 You know, if you have kids, that's awesome.

00:29:20.100 And, you know, it gets me really upset, Sheila, to have this kind of attitude funded by our taxes, permeating our school books and our governance.

00:29:30.240 It's so grotesque when you realize it and they act like we have a population crisis.

00:29:35.740 In fact, we have quite the opposite.

00:29:37.400 You know, we are at the point now where most Western societies are not even creating enough children to sustain the next generation.

00:29:43.460 So to have them come in and say you shouldn't have children, children are bad, they're going to produce global warming.

00:29:49.140 It's just a sick anti-human attitude.

00:29:51.580 And I hope people see through it.

00:29:53.020 You know, and I really wish if that were the case, like you pointed out earlier, the environmentalists would follow their own dogma when it comes to having children and then just sort of make themselves obsolete.

00:30:05.760 But as you pointed out, they love to have lots of kids in Canada here. 0.60

00:30:10.900 One of our most notable environmentalist hypocrites, David Suzuki.

00:30:16.180 He's a creation of the state broadcaster, to be honest with you. 0.95

00:30:19.180 He's got five kids and a pile of houses.

00:30:22.920 Some of it is oceanfront property.

00:30:24.920 So when he starts taking climate change seriously, maybe I might.

00:30:29.580 Probably not.

00:30:32.520 Alex, I feel like I've taken up a lot of your time today, but I wanted to ask you what you're working on next at The New American, if you want to give us a sneak peek of what's going on for you.

00:30:42.120 I'm so glad you asked, Sheila.

00:30:43.340 Thank you very much.

00:30:44.160 And actually, we are just wrapping up.

00:30:45.720 We're in the final stages right now of another special issue.

00:30:48.980 Last year, at the beginning of 2018, we came out with a special issue on the deep state.

00:30:53.520 You know, you have 75 percent of Americans are concerned about the deep state.

00:30:56.320 So we went out and we defined it for people.

00:30:58.040 What is it?

00:30:58.740 Our next one is actually an expose of the government's education system.

00:31:02.880 It's probably just as relevant to Canada as it is to the United States.

00:31:05.880 We're going to be showing the sexualization of the children, the indoctrination of the children.

00:31:10.180 We're going to expose why there is an illiteracy crisis in the United States that has resulted in, according to the government's own numbers, half of American children cannot read.

00:31:18.560 We are in a crisis right now.

00:31:20.540 It's deliberate.

00:31:21.880 And actually, I'll be up in Canada in mid-February at a conference in Calgary speaking on this exact issue.

00:31:28.140 So if people up in the north want to hear about it, they're very welcome to come.

00:31:31.440 And I hope people will get a copy of that special issue.

00:31:33.060 What conference is that?

00:31:35.400 I don't know the name of it, but a lady named Kim is organizing it. 1.00

00:31:39.980 And she said that there's going to be Craig Rucker from CFACT will be there.

00:31:44.100 He's really involved in the climate debate.

00:31:46.020 And so I'll send you more details as soon as I have them.

00:31:48.680 Please do.

00:31:49.260 I would love to know if it's the conference.

00:31:51.600 I think it is Freedom Talk, if that's the conference.

00:31:55.920 You're going to have a great time.

00:31:57.380 And everybody is going to be very receptive to you.

00:32:01.080 So education is one of those things here in Alberta, where I live, that has been under attack.

00:32:08.020 I would describe what happened in Alberta here to my American friends as imagine if Elizabeth Warren somehow got control of Texas. 0.99

00:32:19.420 That's what happened here in a fluke election.

00:32:23.320 And we've been living with the destruction both to our oil patch and our education system over the last three years.

00:32:30.480 And I've said it time and time again, I think the most devastating attack is to our education system because it is rewriting the culture of the province.

00:32:39.420 And it is giving us children who will be unable to work our way out of the financial crisis that is being left here for us.

00:32:49.220 So if that's the conference, I'm very excited.

00:32:52.360 And I think you're going to have a great time in beautiful Calgary.

00:32:55.880 Alex, where can people find you?

00:32:58.260 I know you guys have a YouTube page and a website.

00:33:01.840 Why don't you give us those so that people can check out some of your other work?

00:33:06.380 Thank you so much, Sheila.

00:33:07.380 And so, yeah, our website is thenewamerican.com.

00:33:10.860 When people go there, they can either just read our online articles, which are free, or they can subscribe to our print magazine.

00:33:16.500 It comes out twice a month.

00:33:17.800 You can get it delivered straight to your door.

00:33:19.740 And you can get, you know, email, daily headlines or whatever.

00:33:22.240 And then we do have a YouTube channel.

00:33:23.900 It's at The New American Magazine.

00:33:26.200 I hope people will check that out.

00:33:27.700 And, again, thank you so much for having me, Sheila.

00:33:29.640 I really appreciate it.

00:33:30.620 And hopefully we'll get a chance to hang out in Calgary in, what, less than a month now, something like that.

00:33:35.380 Yeah, that'd be great.

00:33:37.120 I want to thank you so much, Alex, for coming on the show today and being so generous with your time.

00:33:41.980 I promised you 20 minutes, and here we are at 30.

00:33:45.600 And I hope that I can reach out to you again and have you on the show next time something relevant pops up.

00:33:53.180 I'd be honored to come back on.

00:33:54.840 So thank you so much, Sheila.

00:33:56.240 Thank you, Alex.

00:33:57.080 Stay with us.

00:33:57.820 More up next after the break.

00:34:05.380 Welcome back to the show.

00:34:12.020 Now, this is the portion of the show where Ezra normally gives his final thoughts or reads viewer feedback or even his hate mail.

00:34:19.760 To be honest with you, I try not to read the hate mail.

00:34:22.220 You know what?

00:34:22.680 We have so many great viewers.

00:34:24.900 I like to highlight them when I get the reins to the show.

00:34:28.280 Now, yesterday, I did an access to information investigation into the true facts surrounding Justin Trudeau's expensive sauna fiasco at his summer cottage at Harrington Lake.

00:34:39.360 Now, originally, the installation of his self-purchased sauna would cost the taxpayer $65,000.

00:34:46.960 Why?

00:34:47.680 Because Trudeau wanted it installed in one location for the winter and then moved to a separate location where it would permanently rest in the spring.

00:34:56.040 That massive bill would include wiring this thing twice, landscaping twice, clearing trees, reclaiming the old location, and then building a new deck and structure to house his sauna.

00:35:09.040 Now, that plan never materialized.

00:35:12.120 Thank God in heaven.

00:35:13.180 And the CDC and the PMO reported it as the prime minister choosing the cheaper option just to leave his expensive sauna in the first location and not ding taxpayers with that expensive bill.

00:35:26.560 But I dug down and found out it had absolutely nothing to do with Justin Trudeau being struck with a fit of fiscal conservatism.

00:35:34.620 The second location was in the floodplain of the lake.

00:35:38.820 So Trudeau's expensive sauna couldn't be moved there.

00:35:41.720 Not once did anyone express concerns about the costs of doing all this.

00:35:46.920 It was just that the lake could flood and ruin the electrical sauna at some point.

00:35:54.080 And in the comments for that story, Roland Terrence wrote,

00:35:58.640 The Rebel.media, you are just great.

00:36:01.460 I've never seen any mass media that publishes documents or informational sources.

00:36:07.360 Keep going.

00:36:08.000 Well, first off, Roland, thank you for your kind words.

00:36:11.180 I publish those documents for two reasons, really.

00:36:14.820 When I do these access to information stories, I'm well aware that much of the mainstream media and the left like to call us fake news.

00:36:25.040 So I know that they will automatically disregard any fact-based reporting that we do just because they don't like the messenger.

00:36:33.760 I get it.

00:36:34.760 So it's necessary for me to be able to show you and list the page numbers where I'm getting this information from.

00:36:41.700 And to be honest with you, the left has hypnotized themselves into discarding what we say.

00:36:48.080 For some of them, it doesn't even matter if we publish the documents.

00:36:51.520 Some of them have actually accused me of making up the documents for them.

00:36:57.440 They are just so far gone that they think their eyes are lying to them.

00:37:01.740 But maybe, just maybe, I can reach a few.

00:37:05.200 And we publish those documents for a second reason, a very important reason.

00:37:10.020 That reason is that, at the end of the day, these are your documents, too.

00:37:14.400 As you know, we routinely get exorbitant bills from the government to prevent us from getting access to these documents.

00:37:21.920 Because the government knows, we don't have the deep pockets of the CBC, and we will not take a media bailout.

00:37:29.420 So they give us these bills to basically paywall us from their information.

00:37:34.720 But time and time again, our viewers at home helped me crowdfund to get access to these documents.

00:37:40.440 And I appreciate that you at home trust me to ask these questions on your behalf, and you trust me to report the answers to you.

00:37:48.520 But you paid for these documents at the end of the day, and you are absolutely entitled to them.

00:37:54.500 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:37:56.840 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:37:59.380 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:38:18.520 Thank you for tuning in.

Rebel News Podcast - January 09, 2019

Toronto Star hails McKenna as top “business” leader — while she helps destroy Canada’s economy (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)

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