Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau promised 340,000 immigrants per year, but new StatsCan numbers show it may be a lot higher

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Justin Trudeau said immigration would be 340,000 people per year, a new record.

00:00:07.200 But Statistics Canada said we had more than 200,000 new people in Canada in the last 90 days.

00:00:15.680 I'll take you through the stats. Before I do, let me invite you to become a premium subscriber.

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00:00:45.520 Tonight, Justin Trudeau said he would raise immigration to 340,000 people a year.

00:00:59.680 But StatsCan says Trudeau increased our population by 200,000 in a three-month period.

00:01:07.020 It's January 21st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:10.040 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:15.840 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:19.920 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:31.200 You know what I know, what everyone knows, especially the government that constantly polls, what they know.

00:01:36.440 Canadians want less immigration. Every single poll shows that.

00:01:41.200 Every province believes that. Both genders, all age groups, every party stripe.

00:01:46.820 Here's the Angus Reid chart that I show you from time to time.

00:01:50.600 The number of people who want more immigration bounces around in the single digits.

00:01:55.180 I've seen it between 4 and 8 percent. Let's call it 6 percent.

00:01:59.120 It's really the same number since support is so low for increased immigration.

00:02:02.800 It's almost as small as the margin of error.

00:02:06.340 The number of people who don't really know, so they do the moderate Canadian thing and just avoid the question, say,

00:02:12.740 um, it's fine where it is.

00:02:15.080 That used to be dominant.

00:02:17.420 Ask the average person on the street, and they don't know what the number is,

00:02:20.420 and they don't want to weigh in on a contentious issue, let alone one that could get them branded as racist.

00:02:25.620 So they just say, oh yeah, whatever it is now is fine.

00:02:27.620 But the number of Canadians who are willing to tell pollsters that they positively want less immigration

00:02:33.060 is now at the highest point ever recorded by pollsters.

00:02:37.460 For everyone who says they want more immigration, about 10 people say they want less.

00:02:44.540 And I bet the actual number is higher.

00:02:46.120 People are shy about saying controversial things to pollsters.

00:02:49.180 If you doubt that this is accurate, may I point to you, um, the greatest political shakeup in Canada in the past decade?

00:02:57.920 What do you think I'm talking about?

00:02:59.040 Rachel Notley winning in Alberta?

00:03:00.940 That was cataclysmic and catastrophic, to be sure.

00:03:04.660 But it was truly an anomaly.

00:03:05.960 It was an accident.

00:03:07.440 The NDP won in a unique voter breakdown of the other parties and a collapse of the status quo that I won't get into now.

00:03:13.820 But the NDP immediately plunged in the polls when they revealed their agenda.

00:03:19.060 And they were turfed out decisively in the very next election.

00:03:22.600 It was an accident, not a trend.

00:03:24.200 It was a blip, a footnote.

00:03:27.060 Now, the most remarkable political realignment in the past decade in Canada happened in Quebec.

00:03:33.580 A new party, the Coalition Avenir de Quebec, or CAC, as its acronym goes,

00:03:39.740 they swept out the Liberals and the Parti Québécois.

00:03:42.960 They dispatched the two parties who had alternated in power for half a century.

00:03:49.100 In fact, um, they swept a majority.

00:03:53.900 On their first, not their first go-round, but they weren't even 10 years old.

00:03:57.560 And on the strength of immigration reform.

00:04:02.120 And by that I mean immigration reduction.

00:04:05.800 Reducing the number by 20%.

00:04:07.640 And related, absolutely related, promising to ban Muslim hijabs and burqas from the civil service. 1.00

00:04:14.620 Now, the wording of that ban also captures Sikh turbans and Jewish yarmulkes, I think.

00:04:20.520 I'm not sure of the final wording of it, but the number of Jews dressed conspicuously as Jews in Quebec

00:04:28.600 has pretty much stayed the same or fallen in the last generation.

00:04:34.260 That's not what provoked this bill.

00:04:38.140 It's about mass immigration, particularly from places with illiberal cultural traditions, 0.56

00:04:43.940 particularly towards women.

00:04:45.300 That's Islam. 0.83

00:04:46.040 Especially conspicuous Islam, where hijabs and niqabs, you know, the face obscuring veil, 1.00

00:04:53.000 those are, in fact, a political statement.

00:04:55.820 And Quebec just announced that it's also, I don't know if you saw this,

00:04:59.860 it's dumping its school curriculum that teaches about all religions, teaches multiculturalism.

00:05:06.620 Here, let me quote a squawking liberal teacher from the Anglo enclave of Westbound Quebec 1.00

00:05:12.180 to complain about that.

00:05:14.980 Robert Greene, a Westmount high school teacher who teaches the ECR, the multicultural course,

00:05:21.320 said he was outraged and saddened to hear that the CAC government plans to abolish the course.

00:05:28.280 This course does not teach children to be religious, Greene told CBC Daybreak.

00:05:33.080 It teaches them about the diversity of the society in which they live.

00:05:37.660 Greene said that he welcomes the other themes the government wants to include,

00:05:41.080 but said it should not come at the expense of religion-focused aspects of the course.

00:05:47.320 We are in a context right now, both in Quebec and globally,

00:05:51.240 of rising xenophobia around the world and rising far-right movements, he said.

00:05:56.860 I think you can see exactly why Quebec is getting rid of it.

00:06:00.580 It's an anti-Western, anti-Quebec, anti-historical, anti-Christian, anti-French curriculum,

00:06:05.080 and Quebecers are sick of it, no matter what an elite Anglo in Westbound has to say.

00:06:12.060 And Quebecers have a premier who's unafraid because he was elected because he was unafraid

00:06:18.440 to talk about the most important issue, and he knows that being unafraid works when you're on the side of the people.

00:06:24.880 I wish Andrew Scheer had studied under Francois Legault just a little bit.

00:06:29.400 So the biggest political realignment in Canada since Stephen Harper merged the fractured right-wing parties

00:06:35.080 was the realignment in Quebec where anti-immigration, anti-multiculturalism won the election.

00:06:40.780 And look at that.

00:06:43.360 Legault is the most popular premier.

00:06:45.960 There's 60% in the polls.

00:06:50.280 Most popular in Canada.

00:06:51.740 That's shocking.

00:06:54.060 So that's Quebec.

00:06:55.660 It's not a blip like the Albert Andy beat.

00:06:57.620 It's not an accident.

00:06:58.960 In fact, it could be a trend.

00:07:01.780 But what about the rest of us and the rest of the country?

00:07:03.880 What's our view?

00:07:04.520 Well, let me show you something shocking.

00:07:07.240 You know, I've shown you this chart before.

00:07:09.520 This is an official government document.

00:07:11.620 It's a chart of what Justin Trudeau and Ahmed Hassan, who was then his immigration minister,

00:07:17.080 it was the chart of what they promised immigration would be.

00:07:19.840 It was a huge expansion of immigration, 340,000 people per year.

00:07:27.340 Actually, you can see it's bouncing around 350, 360, 370.

00:07:31.820 It's a bit of a range.

00:07:33.080 But the top numbers there, more than 1 million in three years.

00:07:39.460 And as you can see, the majority of these migrants would be uneconomic. 1.00

00:07:44.560 They would be economic burdens, either refugees or grandparents and great-grandparents who would 1.00

00:07:50.020 be brought here in chain migration, so people who would never speak English or French, never

00:07:54.000 have a job, but who would pretty quickly go on a government pension and welfare and would

00:07:59.140 be able to access our world-class health care system in their dying years, pushing long-standing

00:08:06.060 tax-paying Canadians further back in line.

00:08:08.280 And I'm sorry, that's what it means when you bring in uneconomic family migrants, not 1.00

00:08:15.080 immediate family, but like grandpa and uncle and stuff.

00:08:18.140 You bring in people in their 60s and 70s from the third world countries, they're just going 1.00

00:08:21.680 to take your Medicare in their golden years.

00:08:25.400 It's sort of obvious.

00:08:26.980 It's why so few countries have that kind of immigration policy, that chain migration.

00:08:31.480 Certainly very few that have a welfare state.

00:08:33.300 Germany has done it, and it has been a disaster there, both socially and economically. 0.94

00:08:38.560 It's a myth that most migrants under Trudeau's system are economic engines.

00:08:44.000 I showed you Trudeau's plan.

00:08:45.460 It explicitly says only a minority will be.

00:08:48.260 And of course, many of the rest have been low-skilled immigrants. 1.00

00:08:52.520 But here's my news, and it comes from Statistics Canada itself.

00:08:55.780 Look at this, record population growth during the third quarter of 2019.

00:09:02.580 Let me read.

00:09:04.800 Canada's population increased by 208,234 from July 1st to October 1st, 2019, driven mainly

00:09:14.360 by an influx of immigrants and non-permanent residents.

00:09:17.580 This was the first time that Canada's population increased by more than 200,000 in a single

00:09:23.320 quarter.

00:09:24.080 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:09:25.480 208,234 people in a quarter, like a quarter of a year in 90 days?

00:09:33.600 But I showed you.

00:09:34.860 Trudeau promised that we would have only 340,000 new immigrants, give or take, in a whole year.

00:09:43.840 Let me read some more.

00:09:44.660 This is Statistics Canada.

00:09:45.700 This gain represents a quarterly population increase of 0.6%, the largest growth observed

00:09:52.500 since the beginning of the period covered by the current demographic accounting system,

00:09:57.600 July 1971.

00:09:59.280 On October 1st, 2019, Canada's population was estimated at 37,797,496.

00:10:08.740 International migration, both permanent and temporary, accounted for 83.4% of the total

00:10:15.500 Canadian population growth in the third quarter, a share that continues to increase.

00:10:19.580 The rest, again, 16.6% was a result of natural increase, or the difference between the number

00:10:26.460 of births and deaths.

00:10:27.500 So out of 208,234 population growth, you heard them, 83.4% was from immigration.

00:10:36.160 The rest was, you know, people having babies.

00:10:38.560 So let's count immigration only.

00:10:42.020 Let's get rid of the natural population growth from childbirth. 1.00

00:10:47.480 So there were 173,667 immigrants in 90 days.

00:10:55.460 Extrapolate that to 694,000 on an annual basis.

00:10:58.460 694,000, that's almost exactly double what Trudeau promised.

00:11:04.700 It is exactly double what he promised.

00:11:07.380 Here's the trick.

00:11:08.160 When Trudeau said 340,000 people, he meant immigrants as a particular legal definition,

00:11:15.060 not the plain meaning, someone who has moved here from somewhere else.

00:11:19.760 That's what you and I might think immigration means.

00:11:22.940 340,000 people means.

00:11:25.880 But there's another category, non-permanent residents.

00:11:29.460 I don't even like to say those words because, of course, in Canada, almost no one is ever deported.

00:11:35.040 No one leaves.

00:11:36.440 We've had 50,000 people simply waltz across the border at Roxham Road.

00:11:41.420 And what?

00:11:42.540 Maybe 1% or 2% of them even being deported.

00:11:45.800 Look, the RCMP are carrying their bags for them, helping them out.

00:11:48.780 So calling these people non-permanent residents is, I think it's a lie.

00:11:56.040 A bunch of young men coming in.

00:12:00.040 Let me read a little bit more.

00:12:02.840 The strong international migratory increase observed during the third quarter was led by both the arrival of many new immigrants,

00:12:11.300 103,751 persons,

00:12:13.220 and an increase in the number of non-permanent residents, 82,438 persons.

00:12:20.480 Growths of this magnitude had never before been seen in a single quarter.

00:12:26.720 Well, does it matter what the classification of these migrants is?

00:12:29.760 Immigrant, permanent resident, non-permanent resident,

00:12:33.660 criminal fake refugee just waltzing across the border and laughing at our cops? 0.83

00:12:38.100 It doesn't matter practically.

00:12:40.800 They will all send their kids to school.

00:12:43.720 They will all go to the same hospital emergency room as you and wait in line.

00:12:49.100 They will all sit in traffic.

00:12:51.160 They all need housing.

00:12:53.980 Those that do work, if they do work, will drive down labor prices, you know, supply and demand,

00:12:58.980 especially if they're unskilled.

00:13:01.580 Hey, why is traffic so bad in so many of our cities?

00:13:04.260 Why is it a six, seven, eight-hour wait in the emergency room?

00:13:09.800 Why are food banks and homeless shelters so full?

00:13:13.640 Hey, why is it hard to get an entry-level job in Canada that pays well?

00:13:19.820 Hey, how come housing costs so much?

00:13:23.200 Well, look at this.

00:13:23.760 Here's also from Statistics Canada.

00:13:25.580 It's the number of houses in the country that are under construction.

00:13:28.460 And here's the number, it's the number under construction, houses of all kinds, single

00:13:37.260 family homes, apartments, everything.

00:13:38.680 So in that same third quarter of 2019, the number of houses under construction, when there's

00:13:47.680 208,000 more people coming in, there were 51,865 new homes being built.

00:13:54.480 Now, look, if you're in the construction business, this is great, having 200,000 people a quarter

00:14:03.680 move in.

00:14:05.320 Housing construction doesn't seem to be keeping up, in fact.

00:14:07.760 It sounds like a boom.

00:14:09.360 Maybe that's one of the reasons supply and demand while housing is so expensive.

00:14:13.180 You're building 50,000 new houses, you're bringing in 200,000 new people.

00:14:19.100 Look, if you're in the construction business, this is great.

00:14:22.240 If you're in the real estate business, if you're a landlord, it's great.

00:14:25.440 If you're in the low-skill retail business, as in if you're an owner, like let's say you

00:14:30.220 own a Tim Hortons, this is great.

00:14:33.600 I mean, cheap labor, just happy to be here, happy to be earning $14 an hour instead of

00:14:39.380 what, $4 an hour back home where they came from.

00:14:41.600 But if you're not a landlord or a cheap employer, if you're just a regular Canadian, we're born

00:14:49.420 and raised here, your family paid taxes to build this country schools and hospitals over

00:14:53.580 the decades, and now you can't find a job that pays enough to let you leave home, leave

00:15:00.040 your parents home, let you buy your own home, start a family.

00:15:03.280 If you can't afford to buy a house in Toronto or Vancouver, if you can't find a job in Calgary,

00:15:08.960 Edmonton, if you can't get your kids into a university, if you can't see a doctor when

00:15:14.540 you need one, well, maybe 208,000 new people in 90 days isn't that great.

00:15:20.380 But hey, they all vote liberal, so there's that.

00:15:24.220 Maybe that's one reason why Francois Legault wasn't afraid to push back.

00:15:28.780 And why Quebecers weren't afraid to back them, and remember this.

00:15:34.840 But you still didn't give a number, and you would have to set a target as government.

00:15:38.280 That's part of your job, is to set a government level.

00:15:41.480 So if the target right now is 350,000 immigrants by 2021, is that about what you're looking at?

00:15:47.020 I think that's reasonable, yeah.

00:15:48.060 And again, as long as that's coming from facts, from evidence, from a look at the situation

00:15:53.920 and an understanding of where our society has needs, then absolutely.

00:15:58.780 Maybe that's one reason why Andrew Scheer lost and deserved to lose.

00:16:06.380 Stay with us for more.

00:16:07.620 Well, as we've shown you in the past weeks, any 3, 4, 5 leftists get together, and it's

00:16:25.080 a national news story about their protests.

00:16:28.180 But there's certain protests on the right that have thousands or tens of thousands of

00:16:33.300 people show up, and they're either ignored completely by the mainstream media or greatly

00:16:38.200 disparaged.

00:16:39.320 Well, there was one such rally in Richmond, the capital of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:16:46.460 It was a pro-firearms rights, pro-Second Amendment rally.

00:16:51.920 And I guess it was simply too big to be ignored.

00:16:54.940 I've seen reports saying 22,000 or more lawful firearms owners meeting in resistance to their

00:17:05.020 Democrat governor's plans to, well, crack down on lawful firearms ownership.

00:17:10.140 Let me show you how Justin Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster reported on this.

00:17:15.760 Look at this tweet.

00:17:17.980 Gun rights activists, along with members of militia groups and white supremacists, began

00:17:26.500 to descend on Virginia's capital city this morning to protest Democrats' plans to pass

00:17:32.540 gun control legislation.

00:17:34.220 White supremacists. 0.96

00:17:36.900 Well, here's an interview with one such white supremacist. 0.97

00:17:40.020 Take a look.

00:17:40.420 The real reason I'm out here is I do not support in any way, shape, or form Governor Northam's

00:17:46.180 and the Democrats' gun control. 0.91

00:17:48.100 What I also don't support is the fact that every news piece you've seen on this this weekend,

00:17:53.680 they've always brought up the issue of race, as though it's nothing but white rednecks and

00:17:59.860 hillbillies out here who care for the Second Amendment, when actually black Americans, Asian 0.99

00:18:05.580 Americans, Hispanic Americans, Americans in general, care about the Second Amendment.

00:18:11.040 I work at a gun store part-time, and I can't tell you the number of customers I see of all

00:18:16.340 races, all colors, all creeds, who care about the Second Amendment and who just want to peaceably

00:18:21.240 live their lives, enjoy their rights, and the Second Amendment.

00:18:26.060 Well, it wasn't just the CBC that slandered 22,000 people as white supremacists. NBC in 0.65

00:18:33.580 America did so. This is a deleted tweet from their reporter, Ben Collins. Look at the first

00:18:38.120 sentence. Reporters covering tomorrow's white nationalist rally in Virginia. I'm absolutely

00:18:42.860 begging you. And it goes on. Now, of course, it was not a white nationalist rally, and he

00:18:48.200 had the, I don't know, the shame to delete his slanderous tweet, whereas the one I showed

00:18:55.320 you from the CBC remains published to this day.

00:18:58.920 Well, joining us now via Skype from Las Vegas is a new correspondent, AWR Hawkins, PhD. He's

00:19:08.360 with Breitbart.com, where our friend Joel Pollack and Alan Bocari come from. He's their Second

00:19:14.600 Amendment correspondent, and he joins us now. AWR, thanks very much for taking the time to

00:19:19.380 join us here today. You're sort of the firearms or Second Amendment expert at Breitbart.

00:19:23.560 Was this a white supremacist rally, and on what basis could the CBC or NBC say so?

00:19:33.000 No, it wasn't white supremacists. And the only basis, well, they don't have a basis. What

00:19:38.880 they have is the leftist tendency to try to frame reality for us. You know that leftist policies

00:19:46.560 won't work in reality, in the metaphysical, leftist policies won't work. So they have to

00:19:54.080 get us to buy into an inferior reality. And the same situation here, this is a nightmare for leftists,

00:20:01.200 that 10, 20, 25, however many thousand people show up peaceably to demonstrate for the Second

00:20:09.840 Amendment. That's a nightmare. So what you have to do if you're a leftist, you get out in front of

00:20:14.560 that, you tell people, hey, you're not going to see what you think you're going to see. When you see

00:20:19.040 it, you're not seeing what you think you're seeing. What you're really seeing are a bunch of white 0.96

00:20:23.040 supremacists, and blah, blah, blah. That's just how it goes. If they're trying to justify raising taxes, 0.89

00:20:30.320 they work the same way. If they're trying to justify a high cap magazine ban, some other type of liberal

00:20:37.360 policy. And that's what they did with this rally, and it backfired off. Yeah. Well, I saw clips of

00:20:43.920 many black Americans. I saw Asian Americans. I mean, people were sort of tooting their horn of 0.87

00:20:49.360 which group they're with to sort of disprove this slander. I saw LGBTQ people with those signs.

00:21:00.320 The CBC, I don't know why they still have that slander up. I guess they don't really care. I mean,

00:21:04.560 they're a Canadian broadcaster. What do they care about slandering Virginians? But there was one thing

00:21:10.720 that I think would surprise a Canadian, because nowhere in our country do we have open carry of

00:21:17.680 lawful firearms. And I think it's startling to Canadians to see 22,000 people, I'm going to say

00:21:25.840 at least a quarter of them packing heat. To the liberal mindset, that ought to be like they would,

00:21:33.440 oh, someone's going to shoot, and then everyone's going to shoot the shooter, and it's going to be a

00:21:37.440 massive crossfire, and you're going to have a massacre. Not one shot was shot. The liberal mind

00:21:45.280 would say, oh my god, that's the most dangerous place on earth. Conservatives probably know that's

00:21:50.880 likely the safest place in America for that day. Right. You're exactly right. You know, humans,

00:21:57.440 regardless of our political philosophy or political bent, we are wired by nature that self-preservation

00:22:06.640 is our chief goal. It just is. It's a subconscious drive. It's an involuntary drive.

00:22:11.760 And you don't do stupid things when you know the people around you are armed. And likewise, 0.99

00:22:16.080 people around you don't do stupid things when they know you're armed. Thus comes the old 0.99

00:22:19.440 mantra from the Wild West, right? An armed society is a polite society. I live in a state in the United

00:22:27.360 States where I carry a gun openly usually three days a week, maybe four or five days a week. I carry

00:22:33.040 either a classic 1911, which is a .45 caliber handgun, in plain sight on my hip, or I carry a nine

00:22:41.040 millimeter handgun in plain sight on my hip. And I'm by no means alone. It's not uncommon to be in line at

00:22:47.600 the at the at the fast food restaurant. The guy in front of you and the guy behind you are both

00:22:51.840 carrying openly. There's nothing alarming about it because, you know, these are good guys with guns

00:22:59.200 and they're carrying for the benefit of the protection of their own lives, their family's life.

00:23:03.600 And God forbid, the life of somebody in that store should some lunatic come in there. And that's just how the

00:23:10.320 real world works here in America. And I treasure that. It's an aspect of American life that I treasure.

00:23:16.320 Well, that's not just a theoretical philosophy. Not too long ago, a madman went into a Texas church.

00:23:26.960 And here, let me show you the video of this. This circles all the people in that church who

00:23:34.240 apparently were armed because they were all reaching for their firearms. Only one fella who

00:23:41.120 actually ran a, you can tell me more about him. I'm sure you know more about him. It was actually

00:23:45.280 a firearms instructor, acted very quickly here. Let me just show you. Someone later slowed it down and

00:23:51.600 put circles around everyone who seemed to be reacting in the same way. It did not result in a

00:23:57.680 crossfire that killed many. In fact, it was a very accurate and in mere seconds, they saved many.

00:24:06.080 That's how it works in reality. But the only reason we know about that is it was televised and it was

00:24:12.640 dramatic. I'm guessing that every week, maybe even every day in America, someone with a lawful firearm

00:24:19.440 stops what could be a newsworthy tragedy. But we don't hear about it because instead of 30 people killed,

00:24:26.000 one person is injured or killed and it was the bad guy.

00:24:29.200 Right. But I'm going to say something that's very important. At Breitbart, we make an effort to cover

00:24:34.720 those stories every day. And usually, and this is probably news to people in other countries,

00:24:42.560 it may be news to people in America, to some people if they watch CNN every day. But I usually have to

00:24:48.480 pick amongst two, three, four stories where a law abiding citizen has used a gun to save his or her

00:24:57.200 life. And I try to pick the one that's going to resonate best with the readers, the one that I feel

00:25:02.160 will hit our readers where they are. But some days I have to end up writing all of them. I might write

00:25:07.680 three or four such stories in a given day. And there's been academic work on this at Florida State

00:25:13.680 University. It's very important. This is not hearsay. This is not opinion. Florida State

00:25:18.000 University criminologist Gary Kleck, K-L-E-C-K, he has done work on this since about 1993.

00:25:27.680 And he has demonstrated, again, through strenuous or rigorous academic work, there are roughly 760,000

00:25:41.440 defensive gun uses a year in the United States. Now, the trigger is not pulled in each of them.

00:25:48.080 Sometimes, simply pulling the firearm is enough. And I have anecdotal stories I want to get into.

00:25:54.240 The people send me their stories. The women will tell me stories where people walk up to the car 0.98

00:25:58.720 and when she just showed them that she had a gun, they take off running. Yeah. So there's no telling

00:26:03.760 how many times this happens, but the firearm is used for a lawful, justifiable reason

00:26:10.960 so far and away at a greater rate than it's used criminally. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Well,

00:26:16.640 that's very interesting. I'm unaware of Professor Kleck. Of course, I'm familiar with the work of Dr.

00:26:21.680 John Lott, who has specifically studied mass shootings. And one of the things I remember from

00:26:27.680 his lectures and his conversations with us on the show is how so many of these mass shootings happen

00:26:35.600 in so-called gun-free zones that the mass shooter scoped out and reconned in advance, knowing that there

00:26:43.280 wouldn't be that lawful guardian like you or like that churchgoer the other day. Let me ask you one

00:26:50.080 last question. It's nice to talk with you. It's nice to meet you. Thank you. You obviously have your

00:26:54.240 facts and you're well briefed in this. I want to bring it back to a different story we've been covering

00:26:58.800 here at Rebel News for a few months now. Twice we've sent reporters to Hong Kong to cover the democracy

00:27:06.160 protests there. And they're very brave. In fact, they're waving American flags and they're

00:27:13.520 calling America the role model for their freedoms and their desire for democracy. But at the end of

00:27:19.440 the day, they do not have firearms. In fact, there was a skirmish at one of their universities called

00:27:26.080 Polly Yu. And the students who were standing up to the Chinese police were actually using bows and

00:27:31.360 arrows. It sounds almost fantastical. I am deeply worried for the people of Hong Kong, because if

00:27:40.320 they go full Tiananmen Square and roll in the tanks, those bows and arrows won't work. And I mean,

00:27:45.760 sure, they could do Molotov cocktails or whatever, but they are disarmed and they are vulnerable. And

00:27:51.920 maybe you could give us a word or two about authoritarian regimes like China, like the former Soviet

00:27:59.040 Union and their relationship with citizen firearms. Well, the thing I would tell you, a lot of the

00:28:05.840 gun controls that they use, that Mao used in China, a lot of the gun controls that Hitler used in the 0.91

00:28:13.200 roll-up to World War II, they're very similar in many ways to the gun controls we see being pushed in

00:28:18.720 Virginia, which already exist in California, that are in place in Great Britain. The means of a background

00:28:26.240 check and registration. And so those, once you get to the registration level, those things

00:28:34.400 give a tyrant an address and a door to knock on. Very dangerous. Okay. And what you're talking about

00:28:43.200 in Hong Kong, where these people can only fight back with sticks and stones, with words,

00:28:50.080 with slingshots and bows and arrows. If Thomas Jefferson were here and I would get up and he

00:28:55.360 would take this seat. If you read Thomas Jefferson's writings, and if you soak them up,

00:29:00.960 this is a paraphrase. But if you soak him up, what he would tell you is, those people in Hong Kong,

00:29:06.960 they're being denied the very humanity. Because the ability to defend our lives is a gift. It is one of

00:29:14.720 our natural rights. Apart from guns, apart from anything else, simply self-defense itself, as

00:29:22.240 Associate Justice Samuel Alito said, that is the central component of the Second Amendment. Now,

00:29:28.400 the gun is important because the gun is the best way to defend yourself. When these things are denied to

00:29:34.880 us, Jefferson would argue that our humanity is denied to us because they are intertwined in us to that

00:29:41.680 depth. They are integral to the human experience. So when a tyrant disarms people, whether it's in

00:29:48.880 Hong Kong, whether it's in California, wherever it is, when a tyrant does that, he is ripping humanity

00:29:57.280 away from people. He leaves them vulnerable. And they can't defend what I said when we began these

00:30:02.000 segments. They can't defend their most important possession, which is their life, which is why nature

00:30:07.840 wires us itself. Yeah. So this goes to so many things. People say, well, why do you need this

00:30:13.920 particular type of firearm? Why can't you just have a revolver? Why do you need an AR-15? Why can't

00:30:19.840 you just have a pistol? And I'm not making fun of them. I'm just saying these are the questions.

00:30:25.600 Well, this is why. See, when the Second Amendment was written, people say, all we had were muskets.

00:30:30.560 Well, guess what? What did the military have? The very same muskets. So the muskets that were

00:30:36.960 protected by the Second Amendment were the very muskets the military was using to fight other

00:30:41.680 nations at that time. So it was in our founder's mind that the people would always have a weapon

00:30:47.760 sufficient to defend themselves against their own government. And that all comes together when we

00:30:54.080 look at what's going on in Hong Kong and how these poor, freedom-starved people have no means of self-defense.

00:31:01.040 I tell you, it's not just Hong Kong. It's Venezuela. It's Cuba. It's North Korea. It's all the places

00:31:09.200 where people... It's Iran. All the places where people are violated, it's because they don't have 1.00

00:31:16.320 that right of self-defense. Well, listen, AWR, it's a pleasure to meet you. As our viewers can probably

00:31:21.600 detect, you have a PhD in military history, Civil War, Vietnam War. So the fact that you were such

00:31:30.160 a good teacher and have such a depth of information, that helps explain it. And I'm grateful to make

00:31:36.320 your acquaintance and appreciate your information. And hopefully we can talk again on these matters

00:31:40.800 in the future. I hope we can. It's great to be with you. Thank you very much. All right. Likewise.

00:31:45.840 Nice. Well, there you have it. A.W.R. Hawkins. He's the Breitbart Second Amendment correspondent,

00:31:51.840 and he joined us via Skype from Las Vegas, Nevada. Stay with us. More ahead on the road.

00:32:06.520 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Tommy Robinson winning a free speech award in

00:32:10.400 Copenhagen. Preston writes, nice job on your coverage of this prestigious event.

00:32:15.840 Well, thanks very much. I was a little bit jet lagged. Boy, that is such a long trip.

00:32:19.680 Oh my gosh. But I really liked it. I hadn't been to Copenhagen in almost a decade since I won the

00:32:26.880 award way back when. I had dinner with Tommy and with the Free Press Society, and they told me about

00:32:33.840 their trials and tribulations. And I think this is a common battle across the West. And what I learned

00:32:40.480 very clearly, or it was reiterated, I knew it before, is that it's a coalition. Who wants to

00:32:47.040 censor people? Who wants to get rid of free press? I think it's a coalition. I've seen this in Canada,

00:32:53.460 the UK, Denmark. It's leftist Marxists and Islamists. They have an unholy coalition, I think. 1.00

00:33:02.100 That's what I relearned there. Grace writes,

00:33:04.940 Facebook threatened to have my page unpublished and I cannot post for seven days because I posted

00:33:10.640 your videos of Tommy receiving his award. Yeah, we don't even try posting Tommy Robinson videos to

00:33:17.560 Facebook anymore because they have warned us they'll shut our whole site down. That's how insane

00:33:23.780 they are. If it was the government doing that, we would call it unconstitutional and illegal and

00:33:30.320 meddling. Facebook basically is the internet for two billion people. And they're operating it like

00:33:40.280 a company town. You know what I mean? Well, I don't like, you don't like how this company town

00:33:44.860 operates. Why don't you move cities? Well, there is no other internet. That's where the public square

00:33:50.180 is these days. Michael writes, good to see Tommy's doing all right. I haven't heard anything about him

00:33:55.560 in two months. Well, you know, I hadn't heard about, heard from him in a while too. I just called

00:34:00.000 him up out of the blue and by chance it was two days before he won this award, not two days after.

00:34:05.080 So I really just hopped on a plane. Like I rushed to the airport at 2.30 that day, got right on the

00:34:11.600 plane and flew overnight. I don't mind the flights. I mean, I don't, don't let me complain. It's,

00:34:16.980 it's interesting. And I, I was impressed that it was at the Danish parliament, although as an MP

00:34:25.220 said, that was as much for high security as anything else. I tell you, the battles were in

00:34:31.100 friends, the battles were in. Don't think they're not coming to us too. Well, that's our show for

00:34:36.180 today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night

00:34:41.180 and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - January 22, 2020

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