Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau's green Throne Speech almost a “carbon copy” of a Gerald Butts report

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show, The Gun Show.

00:00:06.840 Tonight my guest is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science and we're discussing the Green New Deal that was Trudeau's latest throne speech

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00:01:17.900 Was Trudeau's latest throne speech the introduction of a Canadian Green New Deal?

00:01:38.160 I think it might be.

00:01:39.480 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:47.900 Trudeau's speech from the throne could have been written by the Tides Foundation now known as Make Way

00:02:05.960 or the most green radical within the NDP party.

00:02:10.820 It was extremist and green even by liberal standards.

00:02:15.460 The speech promised help for the oil patch.

00:02:18.300 Oh but not to get back to work to fuel the country, fuel the economy and export ethical Canadian fossil fuels

00:02:25.660 to the rest of the world.

00:02:27.660 But rather the help was to transition away from one of Canada's best industries.

00:02:33.000 It's crazy when the world demand for oil and gas is constantly growing.

00:02:37.900 The world is going to buy oil and gas.

00:02:40.000 Now they can buy it from oligarchs and tyrants or they can buy it from Canada.

00:02:46.160 And I guess Trudeau is happy to help the tyrants oppress their people with the oil wealth that could belong in Canadian pockets.

00:02:55.340 Joining me tonight to talk about the green speech from the throne.

00:02:58.940 CNN attacking Alberta as one of their top climate criminals.

00:03:04.200 Jason Kenney's remarks on India and green energy.

00:03:07.780 The U of A getting a climate change skeptic group all wrong.

00:03:13.260 And how we can help little kids alleviate some of the climate fears the adults around them are injecting into their delicate psyches.

00:03:21.580 Is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.

00:03:25.000 I know I listed a lot of things here.

00:03:27.520 So let's get right into it.

00:03:29.220 Here's the interview we recorded together Tuesday afternoon.

00:03:32.960 Joining me now from her home in Calgary is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science and her brand new kitten, Charlie.

00:03:54.280 Named after Charlie Hebdo, she tells me.

00:03:56.240 Michelle, thanks for joining me.

00:03:59.080 I guess we'll get right into it.

00:04:01.600 But there's so much to talk about the throne speech, the whole green restart.

00:04:08.060 But let's start a little closer to home first.

00:04:11.520 Premier Kenney was recently criticized for his comments on intersectionality and India.

00:04:19.080 So the headline at 660 News reads.

00:04:21.620 And a Calgary city councillor is very mad about all of this.

00:04:28.160 Well, actually, I don't know about the Calgary city councillor's story, but I do know about Max Fawcett.

00:04:39.160 Please do.

00:04:40.080 I was just going to say there's a Ward 3 councillor in Calgary whose family originated in India.

00:04:45.300 And he's very mad that Jason Kenney said that India cannot move forward with the green future that everybody seems to think that they can.

00:04:58.900 Oh, well, Dr. Kandekar, who's our scientific advisor, is also from India.

00:05:03.600 And he's told me several times that when the temperature drops in India and the risk of, say, a solar minimum is that people don't have central heating.

00:05:14.120 So they go outside, the poor people, of course, go outside and they burn anything they have, tires, plastic, dung, firewood, whatever, chaff from the field, to try and keep warm, you know, and huddle around these outdoor fires.

00:05:29.840 And I guess the controversy started because Premier Kenney pointed out that India has, what, a billion point three people and they're primarily operating the country on coal, some nuclear, oil and dung and biofuels.

00:05:53.120 But biomass, this is gathered biomass from the fields.

00:05:57.500 This is not something like here where we go and harvest a forest and turn it into wood pellets.

00:06:03.700 So the controversy is really about whether or not they're going to jump from fossil fuels and go directly to, you know, wind and solar and bypass the mistakes of the West as sort of Max Fawcett tried to frame it.

00:06:17.840 But you can look at the International Energy Agency graphs and I'll send them to you.

00:06:23.960 But you can see that the coal use there is enormous.

00:06:29.000 The use of dung is at least 30 percent of the energy supply.

00:06:35.100 And, you know, places like India and Africa are being stymied by the West.

00:06:41.900 Actually, Robert Lyman did an article called Saving the Planet on the Backs of the Poor, because the World Bank has refused to finance coal-fired power plants for them.

00:06:52.400 And coal is the most affordable and most available form of energy.

00:06:59.280 And in a modern plant, it's really not a pollution problem.

00:07:02.180 So, you know, that's what people should really be doing to help India get ahead, both with industry and to provide people with running water, pumped sewage, you know, industry jobs, all the things that people here take for granted.

00:07:20.220 Most of the people there don't have.

00:07:21.920 So, you know, I guess the whole controversy was about jumping into electric vehicles.

00:07:27.940 And Premier Kenyon said something to the effect that, you know, in 15 years, they won't all be driving Teslas there.

00:07:34.840 And that's quite true, because you have to realize that if you're going to drive an EV, you need to plug it into something.

00:07:41.920 And usually it's plugged into a coal plant.

00:07:44.160 You know, people like to imagine, oh, I'll plug it in here and now I'm running in a clean car.

00:07:50.540 Well, it depends where your power is coming from.

00:07:52.780 And most of the time, a lot of it is coal.

00:07:55.480 So that's not going to happen overnight.

00:07:59.280 And if you look at Quebec, for instance, let's say, oh, wow, Quebec, all that hydro.

00:08:03.660 You know, we could run all of Quebec on EVs.

00:08:06.960 No, you can't.

00:08:07.760 Actually, they don't even have enough hydro in Quebec for 8 million people with that massive James Bay dam, the Robert Bourassa dam.

00:08:15.640 They don't have enough hydro to power all of Quebec.

00:08:20.600 So how would India, which already has blackouts, frequent electrical blackouts for days, hours and days, how would it run an EV fleet?

00:08:31.180 It's totally ludicrous.

00:08:32.600 So actually, we just did a little video about this issue for Canada, because Canada doesn't have enough power generation for the present EV policy.

00:08:42.620 So just have a look at our Climate Barbie Takes an EV for a spin.

00:08:48.160 It's on our YouTube channel.

00:08:50.840 So I think that's a great example of the unintended consequences of green policies, these green finance policies,

00:08:59.260 where they've refused to finance coal-fired electricity generation in India.

00:09:05.020 And that hasn't, of course, I mean, any thinking person probably could have seen this.

00:09:10.020 It hasn't prompted them to skip over coal and move to green energy.

00:09:14.360 It's actually caused a backtrack in, you know, how they produce their energy needs, using dung, burning anything that they can find.

00:09:23.360 And because people are always going, especially in the developing world, people will choose what's cheaper and what's available.

00:09:32.300 They don't have the luxury of going green, because really, it is a first world luxury.

00:09:38.140 It's not something that is even remotely feasible in the developing world.

00:09:42.020 That's right.

00:09:43.900 And, you know, many of the problems in India, where the West has tried to impose solar panels on them, for instance,

00:09:52.640 they built a huge solar farm there.

00:09:54.880 Well, it's very dusty there.

00:09:56.660 It's quite a dry country in between the monsoon seasons.

00:09:59.620 So you have to clean those solar panels off.

00:10:03.000 And now it turns out that they're using water from an aquifer to clean off these panels.

00:10:08.620 But the people themselves don't have drinking water.

00:10:11.180 You know, this is taking away from the fundamental survival of the people, just to try and impose some green ideology on the poorest people of the world.

00:10:22.780 Like, it's really a crime against humanity. 0.98

00:10:25.380 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:10:27.280 Now, let's stay in close to home. 0.85

00:10:32.080 Albertans love when we are on the international stage.

00:10:35.820 And I suppose CNN attacking us sort of puts us on the international stage.

00:10:40.280 Good for us.

00:10:43.580 But they did sort of attack Premier Kenney for investing in pipelines here in Canada.

00:10:51.400 They put us sort of in a, along with like coal in India and coal in Australia and lignite in Poland.

00:11:02.360 And then the oil sands in Fort McMurray as some of the world's bad guys.

00:11:07.420 Yeah, they're pretty funny, actually, CNN.

00:11:09.840 We called it the climate hustle.

00:11:11.480 We just sent out a press release across North America on it.

00:11:14.080 Because, of course, climate hustle, the movie just came out.

00:11:17.260 And CNN tried to climate hustle us, too, Albertans.

00:11:20.380 First of all, excuse me.

00:11:23.940 They spoke with a researcher from the University of Lethbridge who has said that Alberta is warming faster than the rest of the world.

00:11:31.660 Well, where have we heard that stuff before?

00:11:34.800 Everywhere is warming faster than the rest of the world.

00:11:37.520 Well, this is a very common headline to get a headline.

00:11:40.900 But when you look at his statistics, his statistics start in 1950 and they go to 2010.

00:11:46.400 Well, that's a period of a very low in 1950.

00:11:50.920 And so it gives you a skewed trend.

00:11:54.880 Now, if you look at the long-term record, which our people did, and Ken Gregory has done some graphs, I'll send them to you.

00:12:01.700 You can see that, actually, the long-term trend for summers is cooling and the winter trend is warming.

00:12:08.720 But warming in winter for us is good because we use less heating.

00:12:13.840 You know, it's a bit nicer out.

00:12:15.820 And, of course, our idea of warming is, what, one or two degrees warmer.

00:12:20.060 But when it's minus 30, it's not that noticeable.

00:12:22.760 But, you know, so it's actually not a big deal.

00:12:28.040 And one of the most important things that we said in that press release is something that Robert Lyman has brought to everyone's attention in his report, Futile Folly.

00:12:36.780 And that is that China emits in one month about what Canada emits in one and a half years. 0.61

00:12:46.180 Okay?

00:12:46.580 So we're not the big problem on the planet in terms of global warming.

00:12:50.860 And emissions.

00:12:54.700 So, you know, Robert Lyman actually said at the time, Canada's climate policies in the global context are extraordinarily expensive and dangerous political grandstanding.

00:13:07.360 Canadians deserve better.

00:13:09.760 So, you know, CNN can flap their lips all they want, but we're not the problem.

00:13:13.980 And they're using skewed information.

00:13:18.040 Well, and, you know, they don't really address the problem of real pollution.

00:13:22.940 Like, they don't.

00:13:24.160 There's smog in Los Angeles.

00:13:27.080 New York produces a lot of smog.

00:13:29.600 That's real, actual pollution.

00:13:31.480 But CO2 emissions that happen downstream of oil sands production, as in people are burning it in their car or anything like that, it's really inconsequential.

00:13:45.200 And you're right to point out that, look, when China, when CNN doesn't even put China on their map of big problematic emissions or big problematic emitters, that's really an agenda-driven article and dishonest.

00:14:04.460 It's completely dishonest.

00:14:06.080 Yes, it is.

00:14:07.140 Yeah, very dishonest.

00:14:08.480 Yeah.

00:14:09.420 Now, one more thing we wanted to talk about here.

00:14:15.200 You're actually calling on the U of A to issue a retraction.

00:14:21.560 You want them to set the record straight.

00:14:24.800 Yes.

00:14:25.340 We ran across a paper, which is called Assessing the Barriers to Wind in Alberta, which was done by the Resource Economics and Environment Department there, or faculty there.

00:14:40.580 First of all, we ran across it by accident.

00:14:43.040 It was kind of alarming and annoying to find that they had besmirched our reputation and that they were afraid of our small little group and grassroots Alberta as if we were going to upturn policy in Canada as anti-climate science people.

00:15:03.080 That's how they termed us.

00:15:04.160 They replied, or they relied on a couple of newspaper articles, which should suggest that we were funded by fossil fuels and therefore, obviously, could not be, you know, worthy of consideration.

00:15:20.140 None of that's true.

00:15:21.660 And you'd think that people who live in Edmonton, and we have many members in Friends of Science who are faculty, or sorry, are alumni of the University of Alberta, you'd think that they could pick up the phone or send an email and confirm whether or not these articles are true.

00:15:41.040 But they didn't do that.

00:15:42.780 These are graduate researchers.

00:15:45.200 So that's not very good research.

00:15:46.780 Then they go on to make up a lot of stuff about how wind could operate in Alberta.

00:15:53.140 And, you know, it's not true what they're saying.

00:15:57.760 And so it's too bad the engineering department didn't get a chance to go through their paper and advise them properly.

00:16:06.200 So another thing that they did in this report is they referred to an article in which environmental defense is quoted as saying,

00:16:14.440 Oh, you know, Friends of Science running a billboard campaign.

00:16:17.580 We could never afford to do that because, you know, we run on a paper-thin budget.

00:16:23.700 So this was from a few years ago.

00:16:25.620 Their paper-thin budget at that time was $3 million tax subsidized and foreign funded.

00:16:31.880 And, you know, we don't have anything like that.

00:16:34.500 We operate on about $150,000 a year in volunteer power.

00:16:39.040 So, you know, honestly, these people should do much better research than they're doing.

00:16:44.060 But what people should really know about is this has been funded by the government.

00:16:48.600 So we have a government-funded university with a report that's funded by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council Insight Grant.

00:16:58.740 And the information is incorrect.

00:17:01.660 Like what happened to accuracy and critical thinking in universities?

00:17:04.840 It seems like it's a propaganda method to try and tell wind developers how they can encourage rural farmers, many of whom are skeptical of the climate catastrophe claims, how to encourage them, push them into adopting wind farms on their property.

00:17:24.260 So, you know, it seems more like an exercise in propaganda.

00:17:28.200 So we have called for retraction.

00:17:31.720 And ironically, it was the same week that our billboard campaign was running in Edmonton, which is really funny.

00:17:38.860 You can't afford a billboard, Michelle.

00:17:41.900 Well, we're very modest in our campaigns, you know.

00:17:47.040 And in this case, we did have one of our members help us out, but we're grateful for that.

00:17:52.580 But it's a very modest campaign.

00:17:54.260 But, you know, something.

00:17:55.580 Get the message out there.

00:17:57.120 Well, and I think it's great that on your – I mean, it's the same with us.

00:18:01.080 On a modest little shoestring budget, you are punching above your weight to the point where you are spooking University of Alberta researchers into writing completely inaccurate things.

00:18:14.240 I mean, you're the boogeyman on your tiny little budget, which, I mean, just speaks to how effective you are.

00:18:20.380 Imagine if you had their kind of money, the other side's kind of money, you know.

00:18:26.300 Dare to dream.

00:18:28.040 Now, let's move on to the national scale.

00:18:30.620 We've covered off three things about Alberta.

00:18:33.560 I wanted to speak to you about the speech from the throne.

00:18:36.700 Because when I watched the speech from the throne and this stuff about the green restart and, you know, I found out that basically everybody is disproportionately affected by the COVID-19 recession except for men who actually incidentally are dying at rates of three to two over women.

00:18:57.300 But, I mean, let's disregard that.

00:18:59.620 But I wanted to talk to you about the green restart because as I watched the speech from the throne, it really felt like an NDP speech from the throne with a lot of the environmentalism and socialism that was shoehorned into it.

00:19:15.940 But I think that speech from the throne could have really been anything from, you know, the far left recesses of the NDP.

00:19:27.740 It could have been written by the Tides Foundation, really.

00:19:30.100 Well, you know, if you look at the run-up to this time period in June, there were at least one or two reports that came out on climate accountability law.

00:19:44.340 One was from the Canadians, what is it, for climate choices.

00:19:53.140 The other one was from a group of environmental law groups like Ecojustice, CANRAC, which is 100 ENGOs in one group.

00:20:04.960 Equiter, Pembina, and I think one other, I can't remember, then subsequently, a group of 24 ENGOs put out the proposal for a green budget.

00:20:17.640 And it's just loaded with green, green, green, green, green, green, green, green, green, green.

00:20:23.000 And after that, there was another proposition put out.

00:20:28.960 And then on September the 16th, the Gerald Butts Task Force for Resilient Recovery put out a bold five moves report.

00:20:43.620 What do they call it? Bridge to the future, I think.

00:20:45.880 And it's almost a carbon copy of what's in the throne speech.

00:20:53.240 And, you know, Parker Gallant has done some very excellent research on the parties behind this task force.

00:21:02.220 So it's the Smart Prosperity Institute, International Institute for Sustainable Development, the Insurance Bureau of Canada, the Ivy Foundation.

00:21:11.360 And so Smart Prosperity was founded by Stuart Elgy, who also founded Ecojustice.

00:21:18.960 And they received $155,000 from three Canadian foundations and was awarded $1.8 million over seven years by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council, that same group that funded the U of A report.

00:21:34.920 So it's based at the University of Ottawa, and they also got money from the McConnell Foundation, gave them $725,000.

00:21:44.640 So, you know, you have government funding groups that are already agenda-driven to give them a report that they can incorporate into their throne speech.

00:22:04.400 So there's no dissenting voices there.

00:22:07.200 These are all cheerleaders.

00:22:09.840 So this is, you know, no due diligence has been done on any of these things.

00:22:14.760 Like we did a rebuttal to Smart Prosperities report in 2017 called Grounded in Reality.

00:22:22.040 Because, again, at that time they had promised 60,000 jobs a year through clean growth.

00:22:30.400 Well, that never happened.

00:22:31.900 And now they're promising a million jobs.

00:22:34.360 Well, that's not going to happen either because you can't turn around an economy when all of the proposals for resilient recovery are ones that rely on tax subsidies.

00:22:46.100 You know, none of the propositions deal with external trade.

00:22:50.840 And this is part of the thing that I think people don't quite understand about why, you know, Albertans are upset.

00:22:59.220 Because we, as people who produce energy for the world, understand that you have to reach those world markets and get money back in.

00:23:07.120 You have to have that trade going on before you can create real jobs that generate other jobs and other income.

00:23:15.500 So if you're building a wind farm, you're actually taking money and putting it into the wind farm.

00:23:21.780 And that money is coming from the pockets of the taxpayer.

00:23:27.380 Then the wind farm costs more money to run, to integrate to the grid, to generate power.

00:23:34.860 And that puts up prices for the consumer and for industry and takes more money from the taxpayer.

00:23:42.600 And, you know, a lot of these climate clean programs, you know, they're structured in such a way that taxes are greatly reduced.

00:23:53.940 Whereas when you have oil and gas type of jobs, there's royalties, there's taxes, there's land leases.

00:24:00.920 There's all kinds of tiers of income that flow to all levels of government and including the job creation.

00:24:09.500 So, you know, what is this green recovery going to be?

00:24:12.620 A bunch of climate kids, all the Greta followers running around in the woods planting trees?

00:24:18.000 Because we don't want that.

00:24:19.740 You know, we have an excellent forestry industry in Canada, very high standard of professionalism, probably the best in the world.

00:24:26.460 We don't need a bunch of, you know, high school dropouts deciding, oh, I'm going to save the planet.

00:24:33.560 I'm going to plant a tree.

00:24:34.760 You know, it's a profession.

00:24:35.860 It's not some thing that you do because you don't have any other job.

00:24:41.200 So anyway, everything in the speech from the throne is really not feasible.

00:24:46.880 No one's done any due diligence.

00:24:48.820 Hydrogen, for instance, you know, they're planning that we could go zero emission vehicles with hydrogen.

00:24:56.280 Well, you know, Samuel Forfari just put out a book in French called The Hydrogen Utopia.

00:25:02.140 It's going to be out in English soon.

00:25:03.740 He's been working on hydrogen since the 1970s, and it's a dead end.

00:25:09.440 You know, it has useful applications, but it's a form of energy that takes energy to create.

00:25:13.860 So every time you do something with hydrogen, you reduce the actual energy of this important molecule, and it should be reserved for other important uses.

00:25:27.160 So, you know, there's really just this tremendous depth of ideology, green ideology that's washed over Canada, and we're really, really not grounded in reality anymore. 0.73

00:25:38.820 And we're going to go aground.

00:25:41.060 You know, the Titanic is going to sink.

00:25:44.040 I wanted to ask you about this, even though it wasn't on our list of things to talk about.

00:25:48.560 And I've seen the push coming from the federal government now, and I know that you and I both have a friend named Marian Pools, who did some really great freelance work for us in Germany a little while ago.

00:26:02.440 There's this push from the federal government for farmers to produce biofuels as opposed to food as a means to bring down Canada's CO2 emissions and, I guess, get us off dependence on oil.

00:26:19.620 Can you tell us a little bit about what some of the consequences of a push to have farmers produce biofuels on our limited arable land?

00:26:33.440 What's that going to do to us?

00:26:35.840 Well, first of all, it's a crime against humanity.

00:26:39.300 And that was declared by the UN Special Rapporteur in 2007, Jean Ziegler.

00:26:46.100 And you can see the impact of biofuels on the world by looking at the NEXE site.

00:26:54.540 This is the New England Complex Systems Institute.

00:26:59.420 Excuse me.

00:27:01.260 And they did a study in 2013 because they wanted to find out what was driving the refugee crisis in Europe.

00:27:09.200 And what they found out is that the biofuel industry in the United States, which is stemming from a climate policy, took 6.5 megatons of food off world markets.

00:27:21.400 And that's food for cattle, food for people, corn.

00:27:24.240 You know, it's a very, it's a staple in most parts of the world.

00:27:28.140 And they put it in fuel tanks.

00:27:29.900 Well, what that did is it drove up food prices all over the world.

00:27:34.040 And they could actually track and see, they could predict where the next civil unrest would be due to the price of food going up.

00:27:41.820 So most people, when they look at the whole issue of the Arab Spring, they think that that was related to the Arab world turning to democracy.

00:27:52.240 Well, most of it was related to the price of food going up and the lack of work.

00:27:58.000 And so those will be similar consequences here.

00:28:02.640 You know, biofuels are not a net zero proposition because you have to use fuel.

00:28:08.480 As you know, you have to use fuel to seed the crop, to, you know, make sure that it grows with herbicides, pesticides, whatever.

00:28:16.540 And you use fossil fuels throughout that process.

00:28:20.980 And there's tons of quick dick, make videos on how much fuel is used.

00:28:28.360 But at the end, you don't end up with less carbon dioxide.

00:28:35.620 And it's just a waste of food.

00:28:38.880 You know, and we've had a couple of biofuel plants in Alberta.

00:28:42.280 I think 2015 or so, there was one that was worth $36 million of taxpayers' money went bust.

00:28:50.220 It's just not what people think it is.

00:28:53.080 Unfortunately, you know, people are theorizing about these things, making up models, and they're not actually asking farmers.

00:29:00.320 Who would know?

00:29:02.860 Yeah, and I'd like to refer people to Mariah and Poole's documentary, The Uncertainty Has Settled.

00:29:08.920 That's posted on the Friends of Science YouTube channel if you'd like to learn more about the unintended consequences of encouraging farmers

00:29:18.540 and subsidizing farmers to move away from food production in favor of biofuels.

00:29:23.560 It disrupts the local supply chains, local food, drives up the cost of food.

00:29:30.700 It's really quite a catastrophe.

00:29:32.600 And again, that's on the Friends of Science YouTube page.

00:29:35.760 Michelle.

00:29:36.800 All three of the systems are up now.

00:29:39.000 Yes.

00:29:39.300 So we have Paradogma as well, and also Return to Eden, his most recent one, just came out.

00:29:45.600 So all three of them are there.

00:29:47.540 Anyway, yes.

00:29:48.700 And I make a brief appearance in Paradogma.

00:29:54.420 Now, Michelle, there's something else that you're doing that I think is really quite wonderful.

00:29:59.060 There's a lot of hysteria.

00:30:00.400 We know that children are getting, I guess, climate anxiety.

00:30:06.180 And I don't think it's because of climate change.

00:30:08.880 I think it's because the grown-ups around them won't shut up about the impending doom of what they think climate change is going to do to everybody.

00:30:16.860 And you've done some really neat things on your YouTube channel.

00:30:21.600 Well, but also you've written some books to help alleviate some of that anxiety in children and show them that it's really not the catastrophe the grown-ups in their lives say it is.

00:30:36.300 Yes, we have a small series of little video vignettes, and we're turning them into books as well.

00:30:44.840 But the theme is kid-friendly climate tales.

00:30:48.220 They're intended for parents or adults to watch with the kids because it's not detailed climate information, but it's just something to try and set things in perspective in a fun way.

00:31:00.380 And our latest one is the Garden Gnomes.

00:31:06.000 Grampy the Garden Gnome.

00:31:07.160 That's it.

00:31:08.300 Grampy the Garden Gnome stops boiling oceans.

00:31:11.080 And this is based on the fact that James Hansen, the U.S. climate scientist who's pushing for Canada to have a $210 a ton carbon tax.

00:31:21.900 Anyway, years ago, he wrote a book called Storms for My Grandchildren.

00:31:25.500 And there's a piece in there where he predicts when aliens come to see the Earth, it's all burnt up, it's a mess, that the oceans will be boiling in 500 years.

00:31:38.260 Well, he's now writing a new book, and he's saying, oh, that won't happen in 500 years.

00:31:43.040 We should take that out.

00:31:44.660 Well, you know, he just scared a whole generation of people.

00:31:49.980 Scared them to bits.

00:31:51.140 And, you know, you're off by 999,999,000 years.

00:32:00.100 Like, that's a pretty big margin of error.

00:32:02.580 So, anyway, we made this funny little Garden Gnome animation in the garden.

00:32:09.400 And I hope kids will like it.

00:32:11.380 I hope that parents will like it.

00:32:12.660 And the idea just to start some conversation about timeframes on climate, context of climate, and that it shouldn't be that scary and that kids should have fun.

00:32:24.000 Right.

00:32:24.720 I forget which one it was where, I think it was with the rabbits.

00:32:29.920 You have a video with bunnies.

00:32:31.640 And it did put into context, yeah, the tiny rabbits, it put into context just how small we are in comparison to the sun.

00:32:43.460 And the climate change debate completely takes out that big burning ball of gas out of the equation and says, no, no, no, it's you, it's how you're living, it's your SUV.

00:32:52.900 And that video was great because it reminded kids, by the way, that thing that makes it warm outside, that probably has a lot to do with everything.

00:33:00.760 I thought that was really great.

00:33:02.380 Oh, yeah.

00:33:03.100 Yeah, thanks.

00:33:04.060 Yeah, it was fun.

00:33:06.960 Michelle, I want to give you a chance to let people know how they can support the work that you do at Friends of Science.

00:33:13.120 We've mentioned the YouTube page, but other social media, if you could.

00:33:17.040 Well, we're on LinkedIn.

00:33:18.340 We're on Twitter, Friends O Science.

00:33:20.800 We're on Facebook.

00:33:21.780 We have an Instagram account.

00:33:24.580 And have I left anything out?

00:33:28.000 And our website.

00:33:29.180 And our blog, yeah, our website and our blog.

00:33:32.040 Oh, and actually, we have a more recent report that Robert Lyman just put out that's very important for Alberta.

00:33:40.320 And that is the whole stranded assets myth by Mark Carney.

00:33:45.220 You know, Robert Lyman looked at the projections and trends for all the oil use around the world.

00:33:49.760 And again, we're going back to that conversation that we had about Max Fawcett's article and Premier Kenney's comments.

00:33:55.700 Oil demand is booming worldwide.

00:33:58.560 So, no stranded assets.

00:34:01.820 So, you can find that on our blog.

00:34:04.560 Great.

00:34:05.820 And membership to Friends of Science, how do people sign up for one of those?

00:34:10.420 Oh, yes.

00:34:10.940 On our homepage of our website, there's a donate membership button.

00:34:15.180 And you can just click there and you can choose whether to become a member for a year or for three years or just to donate whatever you prefer to do.

00:34:23.460 And, you know, if you can't afford that, just keep sharing our stuff and enjoying our stuff.

00:34:29.920 We love to hear from people as well.

00:34:31.720 And we hope you'll just get out there and talk climate common sense.

00:34:37.500 We'll see you next time.

00:35:07.500 And that's why I am a friend of Friends of Science.

00:35:12.140 They just want to tell the other side of the story of the climate change debate.

00:35:18.040 Much like we do here at Rebel News and with Friends of Science's shoestring budget and their actual scientists, I think they're making a difference.

00:35:27.200 They don't have big protests.

00:35:28.640 They don't have big budget media blitz campaigns.

00:35:31.700 They don't have big backers with deep pockets.

00:35:34.440 They just have the facts.

00:35:35.480 And the facts are on their side.

00:35:37.860 Well, everyone, that's the show for tonight.

00:35:39.420 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:35:40.960 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:35:44.740 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:35:49.260 We'll see you next time.

00:35:49.620 We'll see you next time.

00:35:53.660 I'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - October 01, 2020

Trudeau's green Throne Speech almost a “carbon copy” of a Gerald Butts report

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