Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau's Heritage Minister： Every website available in Canada must get a government licence

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I have incredible footage for you from Stephen Gilbeau, the

00:00:04.500 former environmental extremist, foreign-funded lobbyist, who is now the Heritage Minister.

00:00:09.960 And the number two item on his mandate letter is to bring in internet censorship. He's got

00:00:14.740 23 items that Trudeau told him to accomplish. Number two is censor the internet. And over

00:00:20.060 the weekend, oh boy, did he let a rip. I'll show you the footage and show you some of

00:00:25.920 the reaction to it. I guess I'll tell you about it because you're listening to the

00:00:29.280 podcast, but may I invite you to see it with your own eyes, which I think is powerful.

00:00:32.740 In fact, I show a picture of him being arrested, Stephen Gilbeau, the new Heritage Minister.

00:00:37.800 I want you to see that. So it's really easy. Just go to premium.rebelnews.com, premium.rebelnews.com,

00:00:44.780 and you get the video version of this podcast, plus a couple more shows by Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:00:49.400 and David Menzies. It's eight bucks a month, which is half of Netflix. Okay, here's today's show.

00:00:59.280 Tonight, Justin Trudeau's Heritage Minister announces that every website in Canada must

00:01:16.620 now get a government license. I guess he really does, like China and Iran. It's February 3rd,

00:01:22.920 and this is the Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon

00:01:29.160 consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I

00:01:34.980 have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:40.100 Hey, did you see this on CTV over the weekend? Yeah, but sir, to be fair, you've got an agency

00:01:52.800 that wants to enhance its scope of powers to determine what's a trusted news source. So the

00:01:57.800 first question will be, who's to define that? You've got a lot of these groups... No, this is a

00:02:02.540 recommendation, Evan. It's not... The CRTC hasn't decided anything. Okay, but they're recommending that.

00:02:08.220 They're recommending that content providers have to register and get a license. So how will this

00:02:14.820 work? How are you going to regulate websites? How are you going to register all that? Do you buy

00:02:19.500 these recommendations? Well, I mean, one of the recommendations... So you're talking about a couple

00:02:27.180 of different things here, but as far as the licensing is concerned, is if you're a distributor of content

00:02:32.740 in Canada. And obviously, you know, if you're a very small media organization, the requirement

00:02:39.460 probably wouldn't be the same as if you're Facebook or Google. So there would have to be some

00:02:47.160 proportionality embedded into this. But we would ask that they have a license. Yes. Just like right now,

00:02:55.740 with the old system in Canada, distributors needed to go to the CRTC and to have a license.

00:03:04.220 That scruffy guy is named Stephen Gilbeau. He's a new member of parliament, and he's been appointed to

00:03:10.380 cabinet as the heritage minister. He's awful. A lifelong environmental extremist from Montreal, 0.94

00:03:16.860 where he ran the foreign-funded lobby group called Equiter. He was basically a full-time anti-oil,

00:03:23.420 anti-pipeline activist. I was worried he was going to be appointed environment minister,

00:03:29.340 but I think there must have been someone in the government. I don't know who that is,

00:03:32.780 but I'd like to meet that person who said, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's just too extreme, even

00:03:39.100 for the party of Gerald Butts and Catherine McKenna. So they did something probably even worse,

00:03:44.620 actually. They put him in as heritage minister. Now, that's normally a pretty junior ministry.

00:03:50.300 It's a fun ministry, because you get all the cultural industry sucking up to you as minister

00:03:56.620 24-7, because they're all looking for grants and bailouts and other goodies. So if you're fine with

00:04:03.200 that morally, it's probably the most fun position in the whole of the government. Non-stop invitations

00:04:09.500 to gala events, red carpet events, movie premieres, C-list Canadian celebrities, all the goodie bags,

00:04:19.180 all the little comped, you know, free stuff, everyone flattering you, everyone begging you.

00:04:26.700 You get to play being a billionaire. You get to play being a casting director, but with someone else's

00:04:32.780 money, Harvey Weinstein would have loved it. I don't know if Stephen Gilboa likes that kind

00:04:39.500 of stuff. I think he's more of a radical activist than just a glad hander. And Trudeau has given him

00:04:45.180 a very specific mission. Censor the internet. You know, every cabinet minister has a job description,

00:04:52.700 a to-do list called a mandate letter. Gilboa has 23 jobs in his mandate letter. But on the list,

00:04:59.180 the second item, the second priority out of 23 is to regulate the internet, to censor it.

00:05:04.380 And I don't know if you can see the fine print here, but the censorship that Gilboa has been

00:05:09.020 ordered to do by Trudeau is very specific, incredibly specific, weirdly specific, to give the government

00:05:14.620 the power to knock things off the internet within 24 hours of a complaint. And I'm sorry,

00:05:20.540 life doesn't work like that in a free country. Imagine some member of parliament out at a bar on a

00:05:26.460 Saturday night, see something on their smartphone they don't like, like maybe this video on YouTube,

00:05:33.020 and drunk dials YouTube and says, take that down. I imagine the drunk dialed call would sound a little

00:05:40.620 bit like this. And I got screeched in, so really amazing. But the funny thing is, so you think

00:05:46.540 like it's amazing, you got screeched in, you hear all these facts about Newfoundland, and what the hell

00:05:50.940 are they doing now? They're fighting about the facts about Newfoundland. And did they really get them

00:05:55.340 right? So what's the discussion now, boys? Well, we were talking about is St. John's the oldest city in

00:06:01.580 North America. And there's some debate about that. He was saying that it could be at Missouri. But we firmly

00:06:08.140 believe it is, because there's nobody from Missouri here. But you know, I actually gave

00:06:12.940 them some real advice. I said that if you actually say it louder, we've learned in the House of Commons,

00:06:17.740 if you repeat it, if you say it louder, if that is your talking point, people will totally believe it.

00:06:22.780 Okay, so now YouTube has 24 hours to take down this video? There's no time for a trial, or even to let the

00:06:29.180 person know anything's afoot. It's really nuts. It's un-Canadian. We don't do anything immediately 1.00

00:06:35.820 in the law unless there's an imminent harm to life or limb. In real life, unless there's like a

00:06:41.820 rampaging murderer. Well, in a fair court, things take time, weeks, months, even years if they're fair.

00:06:48.940 Gilboa has specifically been told to be unfair. You know, the whole judge, jury, executioner in 24 hours,

00:06:55.580 it reminds me of what Trudeau said he likes best about China. Not their history or their culture

00:07:01.180 or their language or their art or their architecture or their food or anything like that. The thing he

00:07:05.580 likes best about China is their basic dictatorship, which he specifically says lets them do things

00:07:13.820 without wasting time on things like being fair. There's a level of admiration I actually have

00:07:21.500 for China. Because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around

00:07:31.260 on a dime. Yeah. So as you know, last week, a panel of lobbyists and insiders handpicked by Trudeau

00:07:38.140 wrote an enormous report demanding the total regulation of all media in Canada, from cell

00:07:44.140 phones to streaming sites like Netflix, who they really seem to hate for some reason. Even though

00:07:50.140 Netflix spent a billion dollars in Canada last year, that's pretty great. I think the reason the

00:07:56.620 liberals really, really hate Netflix is that it is a huge success with people voluntarily. People pay,

00:08:03.980 depending on your plan, up to seventeen dollars a month. And they do it willingly. And they do it

00:08:10.940 en masse. I see credible reports that 6.5 million Canadian homes have Netflix. Remember, that's homes,

00:08:19.740 households. So, you know, there's what, two or three people per home? That's pretty much half of

00:08:24.620 Canadians choose to pay to watch Netflix. Compare that to the number I showed you the other day from the

00:08:32.460 CBC's own annual report, where barely one percent of Canadians watch CBC News flagship show, The

00:08:38.780 National, and not many more watch their other stuff. So yeah, I think it's jealousy and frustration on

00:08:45.340 the part of the liberals that people actually like or even love Netflix and voluntarily pay for it,

00:08:50.540 whereas no one watches Trudeau's state broadcaster and the government has to force you to pay for it

00:08:56.860 by extracting the money through your taxes. So liberals hate Netflix for reasons of rivalry and

00:09:02.860 jealousy and inferiority complex. But they also hate Facebook, YouTube, Google, Twitter for a different

00:09:10.460 reason. They aren't just rivals for entertainment, which all those media are. They're rivals for

00:09:16.780 political information. That's where people get their news these days. Trudeau hates that if he can't

00:09:22.300 control that. And Guilbeau, a lifelong radical activist, he hates that with the heat of a thousand

00:09:29.420 suns. He wants to ban websites that aren't trustworthy. Well, I think the CBC is untrustworthy.

00:09:37.420 I know they are. They lie all the time about Donald Trump, about global warming, about Russia, about oil and

00:09:44.220 gas industries. They definitely lie about Trudeau. But that's just my opinion. Others would disagree.

00:09:50.300 They would say the CBC is full of truth. And in a free country, we get to disagree. Everyone gets

00:09:55.420 their say. The viewer decides at the end, I don't want to ban the CBC. I don't want to have to pay for

00:10:00.540 it anymore. But Guilbeau and Trudeau literally want to ban ideas they don't like. That's their licensing system.

00:10:08.220 So they're at the point where they will literally send police after authors and tell them they have to

00:10:12.780 register their books with the government. The knowledge that you would have or not

00:10:17.020 have of the of the election act, the Canada elections act, when you are planning the book

00:10:24.700 and you the the new third party rules, because I believe there's some comments on yourself

00:10:30.300 as well about that. Did you give any consideration of saying maybe I should

00:10:35.100 register as a third party for this circumstance? Or maybe I shouldn't

00:10:41.500 because of my interpretation of what I'm going to do? Or did you not make that determination?

00:10:47.420 Yeah, it's not a coincidence that my book is being investigated at the same time as this web censorship.

00:10:53.100 But let's look at that CTV clip again. Guilbeau doesn't say a lot, actually. I don't know if he's simply not

00:10:57.980 well briefed or if he's just practiced at being a fog generating machine, a BS-er. Evan Solomon is pretty much

00:11:04.780 the best interviewer in Ottawa when it comes to cutting through the fog machines. He always was the most

00:11:10.540 effective at getting through the BS emanating from Catherine McKenna. Here's Evan Solomon asking

00:11:15.180 Stephen Gilbeau what constitutes a trustworthy news source. Okay, so here's another concern.

00:11:21.900 I'll just raise some of these red flags. There is a concern that the panel wants to regulate

00:11:26.460 international companies as well. So let me take an example of a controversial site like Breitbart.

00:11:31.740 How would the government force a company like Breitbart? I don't know, the New York Times, Mother

00:11:36.780 Jones, the Daily Mail. How would they force those companies to comply with rules of Canadian content,

00:11:43.660 discoverability? And if they don't comply, what happens? Will Canadians be blocked from accessing

00:11:49.660 international sites? I don't think that's what's recommended in the report that these sites be

00:11:57.500 blocked in Canada. Frankly, I'm not sure I see what the big deal is. I mean, we have an incredible

00:12:05.100 number of international corporations that are operating in Canada in all sorts of sectors, in the

00:12:10.300 financial sector, in the construction sector, in the energy sector. And these companies comply with

00:12:16.940 Canadian rules and laws. We're a sovereign state and what is true of Canada is true of the United States

00:12:23.180 and it's true of France and Great Britain and Japan. So we're not asking these companies to do

00:12:29.100 this extraordinary things that no other companies have been asked to do before. We're asking them to

00:12:34.540 simply abide by by the rules and regulations that we have in our country. But I like that Solomon

00:12:39.260 mentioned Breitbart.com. You know those guys we interviewed, Joel Pollack and Alan Bocari and others.

00:12:45.740 Breitbart's a huge website and it's conservative and Solomon knows it drives leftists like Gilbo

00:12:50.620 crazy. But he also makes the point about the New York Times and others too. Who gets to decide?

00:12:55.420 That's a good question. We did not get a good answer. But the key passage was this one where

00:13:00.460 Gilbo after dodging for a bit admits, yeah, yes, every single website in the world needs to be

00:13:09.100 licensed if it is to be watched or read or clicked in Canada. Let me talk about the scope of this new

00:13:14.780 regulatory body, the new regime. In order to make Canadian content what they call discoverable,

00:13:19.340 easy to access, there'll be the imposition of requirements on what you guys call shares or

00:13:24.220 aggregators, content creators. I'm going to read you what it says in the report. Links to the websites of

00:13:29.820 Canadian sources of, quote, accurate, trusted and reliable sources of news with a view to ensuring

00:13:35.100 the diversity of voices. Question, sir. Who will determine what trusted news sources are? The

00:13:41.580 government? Is it appropriate for the government to determine what's a trusted news source?

00:13:47.740 First thing I have to say is this is a panel that was created by our government in 2018.

00:13:53.820 They went across the country. They've met hundreds of people, experts. They've received

00:13:59.740 close to 2,000 submissions as part of their work. And these are recommendations for the government.

00:14:06.620 As you said initially, there's 97 of these recommendations. So we will be – so it's not

00:14:11.580 the government of Canada saying this is what we're going to do. This panel is making recommendations to

00:14:16.700 us and we will be studying these recommendations very closely. I've heard some people say that,

00:14:23.020 oh my god, you know, the government is going to decide what we see on the web. Hold on a second.

00:14:29.020 Canada is not about to take over the World Wide Web. That's not what we're talking about here. Not at all.

00:14:35.260 So he started off with a lie. He implied this isn't a government commission. And he said he'll study

00:14:41.180 their report. And he said he wouldn't take over the World Wide Web, which actually no one accused him of

00:14:45.580 doing. But Evan Solomon is smarter than your average journalist. So he simply asked the question again,

00:14:50.940 instead of accepting that BS. Yeah, but sir, to be fair, you've got an agency that wants to enhance

00:14:58.220 its scope of powers to determine what's a trusted news source. So the first question will be, who's to

00:15:02.780 define that? You've got a lot of these groups – No, this is a recommendation, Evan. The CRTC hasn't

00:15:09.420 decided anything. Okay, but they're recommending that. They're recommending that content providers

00:15:15.340 have to register and get a license. So how will this work? How are you going to regulate websites?

00:15:20.860 How are you going to register all that? Do you buy these recommendations?

00:15:26.780 Well, I mean, one of the recommendations – so you're talking about a couple of different things

00:15:31.580 here – but as far as the licensing is concerned, is if you're a distributor of content in Canada,

00:15:37.260 and obviously, you know, if you're a very small media organization, the requirement probably wouldn't

00:15:44.380 be the same as if you're Facebook or Google. So there would have to be some proportionality

00:15:53.100 embedded into this. But we would ask that they have a license, yes. Just like right now,

00:15:59.500 with the old system in Canada, distributors needed to go to the CRTC and to have a license.

00:16:08.060 Oh, so they will have to register with the government companies, big and small. Just all of them. So big

00:16:15.900 companies like Facebook and little ones, I guess anyone on the internet, because you don't have to

00:16:21.180 have a company to have a million followers on a social media platform or to set up your own website.

00:16:25.500 Listen to this. I'll just raise some of these red flags. There's a concern that the panel wants to

00:16:30.380 regulate international companies as well. So let me take an example of a controversial site like

00:16:35.180 Breitbart. How would the government force a company like Breitbart – I don't know, the New York Times,

00:16:40.860 Mother Jones, the Daily Mail – how would they force those companies to comply with rules of Canadian

00:16:47.500 content, discoverability? And if they don't comply, what happens? Will Canadians be blocked from accessing

00:16:54.220 international sites? I don't think that's what's recommended

00:16:59.100 in the report, that these sites be blocked in Canada. Frankly, I'm not sure I see what the big

00:17:06.220 deal is. I mean, we have an incredible number of international corporations that are operating in

00:17:12.780 Canada in all sorts of sectors – in the financial sector, in the construction sector, in the energy

00:17:18.620 sector. And these companies comply with Canadian rules and laws. We're a sovereign state. And

00:17:25.260 what is true of Canada is true of the United States, and it's true of France and Great Britain and Japan.

00:17:30.460 So we're not asking these companies to do this extraordinary things that no other companies have

00:17:37.100 been asked to do before. We're asking them to simply abide by the rules and regulations that we have in our country.

00:17:42.620 But Minister, digital world is different than ship and logs, and you know that.

00:17:47.900 So in a way, he does seek to take over the World Wide Web. I mean, they mentioned Breitbart earlier.

00:17:53.820 They're based in Los Angeles. Breitbart has reporters around the United States. And all you have to do

00:17:58.700 here in Canada is to click on it. Do you think that Breitbart in Los Angeles – lovers of the First

00:18:03.820 Amendment, by the way – do you think they're going to come up to Canada and fill out paperwork and

00:18:07.980 register with Stephen Gilboa and get a license? You think they're going to do that? And when they

00:18:14.140 don't, and when a billion other internet companies around the world laugh at Stephen Gilboa – well,

00:18:19.980 they won't even laugh because they won't even be listening to them. They won't even care. They

00:18:23.100 won't even hear about this. What's he going to do about it? He's going to sue them? Where? For what?

00:18:29.820 They're not here. The only people who are here that Gilboa and Trudeau can punish are Canadians.

00:18:34.860 So what's he going to do to us? Well, I think he might ban these websites like China does, 1.00

00:18:40.300 building their great firewall of China. That's what little tyrannies like China. It's a big 1.00

00:18:45.020 tyranny in North Korea and Pakistan do. They want to license the internet too. The world sort of laughs 0.80

00:18:50.780 at them. So they ban the internet. So yeah, Facebook shut out of the lucrative ad market of Pakistan,

00:18:58.860 or whatever. Twitter is heavily censored there. So basically, Pakistan, North Korea, Iran, China,

00:19:05.580 places like that, they blindfold their own people because their people won't stop looking at things 1.00

00:19:10.540 the government doesn't want them to look at. So they block their own people from learning about

00:19:14.140 the world. In China, where it's most developed, it's called the Great Firewall of China. 0.95

00:19:20.460 You know, I started tweeting about this incredulously yesterday. And people who aren't

00:19:24.700 Canadian were shocked by it. People who are Canadian are now used to it, which is very sad.

00:19:29.820 We should stay shocked. It goes without saying that not a single Canadian civil liberties or

00:19:33.900 journalism group has any objection to this, just like they didn't have a word to say about me being

00:19:38.460 grilled for writing a book. But look at this. A senior executive at Facebook saw my tweet

00:19:46.620 and replied to me, this sounds odd, he says. And he put that confused smiley face. Here's his biography,

00:19:56.060 director of product at Facebook, learning, leading trust integrity for ads and business products,

00:20:02.620 two-time startup founder, Trails and Mountains fan, CFA. Now, I wrote back to him on Twitter saying,

00:20:08.860 thanks for the retweet. Trudeau and his cabinet don't care much about civil liberties, but they obsess

00:20:14.380 about being seen as cool by Facebook executives like you. Your tweet alone could stop this,

00:20:21.500 and your lawyers could under the USMCA for sure. I think that's how it's going to go. I think Canada

00:20:28.060 will accept this censorship. What, you think the NDP and the blocky people are going to oppose it and 1.00

00:20:33.580 bring down the government over it? All the media is for it. They were bought off last year for 600

00:20:39.980 million bucks. Pretty cheap. So what's a license to them? They know they're already approved. They

00:20:46.380 also know who won't be approved, and they're fine with that too. I scanned the media hard for feedback

00:20:52.460 from the 121 conservative MPs. I saw very little. So let me give the few who spoke out some credit.

00:20:59.020 This is Michelle Rempel in Question Period last week. Mr. Speaker, yesterday a government-appointed

00:21:03.820 panel enthusiastically recommended that the government should control what news coverage

00:21:07.820 Canadians should be allowed to see. Under this Liberal plan, the Liberals would be able to force

00:21:12.620 all news sites to prominently link all of their coverage to Liberal government-approved websites.

00:21:19.500 This would have an instant chill effect on free speech and diversity of thought in the Canadian

00:21:24.860 media ecosystem. Does the government think that Canadians are too dumb to think for themselves? 1.00

00:21:31.500 And here's Aaron O'Toole, the leadership candidate. He says, 1.00

00:21:35.580 I'm offended by the idea that media organizations must please Justin Trudeau or face government sanctions.

00:21:40.860 This is no place in a free country. Help me fight Trudeau's agenda to control what news you see.

00:21:45.900 I think this is my favorite response. It's not from a federal MP. The other 119 Tories were silent.

00:21:53.100 I think Andrew Scheer was busy at some dairy meeting or something. But this is from an Alberta cabinet

00:22:00.780 minister who says the Trudeau Liberals have quickly gone from paying off journalists to regulating who

00:22:08.140 is free to speak. It's clear they have no tolerance for opposing views. It's dangerous, unconstitutional,

00:22:13.100 and the public needs to speak up while it's still free to do it. Tough stuff. That's great stuff.

00:22:18.220 That's Devendration. I hope he's not pressured to take that down. That's bold talk for a cabinet minister,

00:22:23.820 even a provincial cabinet minister. But where's everybody else? I mean everyone else. If you need

00:22:29.740 help to imagine what the response should be like, what do you think would have happened if Stephen

00:22:34.060 Harper had said he was going to force websites to get licenses? What do you think would have happened

00:22:39.820 if a liberal author, Margaret Atwood, Naomi Klein, had been interrogated on Harper's watch? Other than

00:22:47.580 Rex Murphy and the National Post, I haven't seen any mainstream media reaction to my interrogation

00:22:52.540 because they're sort of fine with it. And they're sort of fine with being licensed. They're sort of

00:22:57.020 fine with censorship because they know that they please the masters enough to be on the right side

00:23:02.620 of things. They're cashing the checks. As I mentioned, before Stephen Gilboa was an MP, he was an

00:23:08.460 environmental extremist. Here he is being arrested after illegally scaling the CN Tower in some weird

00:23:13.740 stunt against fossil fuels or whatever, as if he doesn't ride a chauffeured limousine now. But

00:23:18.380 he's an extremist willing to break the law. And now he's in charge of making the law. Do you doubt

00:23:23.980 he'll abuse him? Oh, I didn't tell you. He hates rebel news and he hates me personally. He even once

00:23:31.260 implied that I, as a Jew, support Nazis or something. Here's just a few of his bizarre attacks on me and

00:23:38.620 rebel news over the years. He's unhinged. He's imbalanced. And now he thinks he's my boss? 0.89

00:23:47.420 He wants to censor me. He wants to license me. How do you think that's going to end? Stay with us for more.

00:23:54.860 Welcome back. I tell you, half the time at The Rebel here, we spend fighting against censorship.

00:24:12.700 That's not our purpose. We started The Rebel to tell the news. Our motto is telling the other side

00:24:18.060 of the story. But I mean, just think about it. Today we have news about licenses the government

00:24:24.380 wants to put on news media. You saw when I was interrogated by the election commissioner for

00:24:29.740 writing a book. And one of the most alarming trends that I see is when police become politicized and block

00:24:39.260 our journalists. I just want to be a journalist. I just want to tell the stories. But I find half our

00:24:44.140 time and half our money is spent fighting the government. Here is one of the most disconcerting

00:24:50.060 moments of this censorship. This was a few weeks back when our friend David Menzies went to ask a

00:24:56.140 question to Ron McLean of Hockey Night in Canada. Maybe you don't care about sports. Maybe you don't

00:25:01.020 care about Don Cherry. But this is how it looked. Take a look. Hey, Ron. How are you doing?

00:25:06.620 I'm great. How are you doing? Good, sir. I'm just wondering, how do you feel about

00:25:10.060 the ratings for Hockey Night in Canada plummeting since Don Cherry was fired?

00:25:17.980 I wouldn't know, sir. Excuse me. I'm in a public place. Ron, why did you throw Ron under the bus?

00:25:24.940 You just hit me. You just hit me. I'm trying to get around you. You're holding me back. I'm

00:25:39.100 trying to do my job. No, you're not trying to do your job. I'm in a public place, officer. Yes,

00:25:42.620 you're not allowed to hit me like that. I didn't hit you. I got it on camera, okay? Perfect.

00:25:47.500 Listen, you can sit there and film me, but you can't shove the microphone in my face. Okay,

00:25:50.780 then I'll be on my way. No, you won't. Not in here. Are you kidding me? I note that Ron McClain

00:25:57.580 himself, who I regard as a bit of a coward, but he never said, stop talking to me, stop harassing me.

00:26:05.740 In fact, Ron McClain went on to promise that he would do an interview with David Menzies. He hasn't

00:26:11.100 kept that promise, but he had no time to say to the police, help, help. I'm being asked questions.

00:26:16.620 Note that this is on a public sidewalk at a public facility, and that David himself is polite. I

00:26:23.900 mean, is he annoying? Well, if you don't want to be asked questions, I suppose any journalist is

00:26:27.740 annoying. And these police physically shove him around, knock him down. And by the way,

00:26:35.660 they changed their excuse about three times. Well, we're going to do something about it. In fact,

00:26:41.820 we have filed a lawsuit against the York Regional Police. Now, those are words I never thought I

00:26:51.340 would say in my life, suing the police. What am I, some Antifa hippie, some leftist activist? No.

00:26:58.620 I'm someone who says, you can't push our reporters, you can't knock our reporters down

00:27:05.180 because you're protecting some CBC or some Rogers TV celebrity. That's not how we roll in Canada.

00:27:12.940 And if you need a judge to tell it to you, so be it. And joining us now is our friend,

00:27:17.420 David Menzies. How you doing, David?

00:27:18.380 David Menzies, very good.

00:27:19.500 David Menzies, very good. I'm taking a real risk here. You know, I live in the New York region,

00:27:22.460 right? Next time I get pulled over, I think they might throw the book at me now. But anyways,

00:27:27.500 it's important to stand up for that. There's two ways it could go. One is they say, oh,

00:27:31.660 huh, they're fighting back. We might have to explain ourselves in front of a judge.

00:27:36.780 Let's actually do our jobs and be cops now instead of weird enforcers. The other is, yeah,

00:27:41.820 maybe they're going to hit you with a vengeance and maybe us too. Well, you know, time will tell,

00:27:46.460 of course. But Ezra, I think it's important to parlay on your point. This is not about being

00:27:53.100 anti-cop, certainly. This is actually about being pro-rule of law. Police officers are to uphold the

00:28:01.020 law, but they can't break the law in upholding the law. What they did to me, let's see, there was

00:28:06.540 assault. There was forcible confinement. You noted the trail of lies in changing their story three times

00:28:14.780 as to why they were detaining me. One was an alleged, an allegation that I had assaulted them,

00:28:19.820 which was me just trying to get around them. The second one was trespassing while we were on public

00:28:24.620 streets. This was a Rogers hometown hockey event. There were pavilions which were open to the public.

00:28:30.300 I didn't even go to the pavilions. I was on the streets of Vaughan, Ontario. And then, of course,

00:28:35.260 there was them saying where it was almost like the Minority Report Thought Crimes Unit,

00:28:40.860 we're trying to prevent you from harassing Ron McClain as though that's somehow a crime in itself.

00:28:48.380 Yeah, and the one guy saying, you're not a journalist, the implication there. You know,

00:28:54.140 no one is allowed to do an assault. And just because they're wearing a uniform and a badge and a gun

00:29:00.140 doesn't let them make an assault. If you had started swimming, it's unthinkable, but if you had gone up

00:29:07.180 to them and started swinging punches, oh, you bet they'd have every right, as any private citizen

00:29:11.500 would, to physically defend themselves, and they're cops so they're packing heat. But you were packing

00:29:16.540 nothing other than a microphone. And it's almost like they were instructed in advance by Rogers and

00:29:24.380 Ron McClain's staff, watch out for David Menzies, he's a really bad man, and silence him now. I'm just

00:29:31.100 guessing because when we actually saw Ron McClain, he never once asked for you to be silenced. Those

00:29:37.580 cops did his dirty work for him. Oh, you know, Ezra, you don't have to guess because Rogers did indeed

00:29:43.420 have a discussion with the police once they got Ron to the area where he was doing autographs and

00:29:48.700 selfies. I was outside waiting patiently because I knew we'd have to go back to the portable broadcast

00:29:54.380 booth. And there was a fellow from Rogers, first name was Kevin, and it was almost like a huddle in

00:29:59.660 football. There was about eight or nine York Region cops and I was filming through the window.

00:30:04.460 And Kevin is sort of ordering them around. And then what happens, the nice cop comes out to me

00:30:11.020 and he's saying, oh, by the way, we're going to organize an interview with some Rogers employee.

00:30:16.140 And meanwhile, I see them sneaking them out. So he was doing, that was their big master plan.

00:30:22.460 He was causing a diversion so that they could sneak him out. But I was looking over his shoulder all the

00:30:27.740 time and I didn't fall for it. How bizarre that taxpayer paid police. And I don't know what a cop

00:30:34.380 makes these days. It wouldn't surprise me if they're around the $100,000. For sure.

00:30:37.660 Yeah. So you got a hundred grand

00:30:39.100 a year cops and they're probably making overtime for working at night like that,

00:30:42.380 or who knows what this shift is like. And you see, and I saw there was a lot of them.

00:30:46.540 Yes.

00:30:48.220 Wow. It must be nice to be a media company that can have a hundred grand a year

00:30:53.180 cops with guns doing your PR for you and taking out critical, competitive journalists. That's so

00:31:00.460 weird. It's so inappropriate. I was so upset when I saw them knock you down and then say, oh,

00:31:08.060 be careful, buddy. Be careful, buddy. It almost reminded me

00:31:11.020 of a scene of a group of young thugs taking on something. It reminded me of the opening scene

00:31:16.780 of the movie The Joker a little bit. And I'm bothered when anyone hits a rebel reporter. We sued

00:31:25.500 the guy who hit Sheila Gunn-Reed a couple of years back. We sued him for years and we got him.

00:31:30.540 Yeah.

00:31:31.420 When a cop hits your people unprovoked, unprovoked, you got to take your foot down, put your foot down. And we

00:31:39.660 are. And we have filed a lawsuit and it is on a website now. What's the website?

00:31:46.460 Stanwithdavid.ca. And there's a promo going up very shortly. It might already be up, Ezra,

00:31:52.220 where it says, as you rightly pointed out, this is going to cost us tens of thousands of dollars

00:31:57.500 to pursue. The York Regional Police, of course, have the endless taxpayer trough to get their legal

00:32:03.980 fees from. And yeah, you're right. I mean, this is not, and I don't want to say to anybody that

00:32:07.900 that is pro-law enforcement. This is not an anti-cop thing. This is anti-bad cop,

00:32:12.380 or at least anti-cops behaving badly. And you know, I want to add another thing. You mentioned

00:32:18.380 all these police that were there. Who was footing the bill? Were they there on duty,

00:32:23.500 meaning the taxpayer was indeed paying their salaries? Or were they paid duty cops? So they're

00:32:28.780 off duty, but they're in uniform, and Rogers is paying the $87 an hour, whatever that fee is.

00:32:34.300 Because there was tons of cops. And when they escorted Ron back, it was quite an amazing visual.

00:32:40.780 It's like a donut where the outside are the police officers, about eight or nine of them. And Ron is

00:32:47.100 the jelly in the donut. And me walking alongside of them. It was surreal. And another important

00:32:55.100 point, as you mentioned too, Ron at no time said, no interviews. I don't want to talk to you. I feel

00:32:59.660 like you're harassing me. Because the very next week, Ezra, I went back down to Ancaster, a suburb of

00:33:06.380 Hamilton. There was another Rogers hometown hockey there. And to my incredible surprise and delight,

00:33:12.780 Ron on camera, and you can watch this video, folks, says, you know, my word of honor, I will give you an

00:33:18.460 interview. But you know, not right now. Fair enough. He's busy. He's doing a broadcast. It's been exactly

00:33:24.700 two weeks to the day since I last spoke to a Rogers communications person. I'm wondering,

00:33:29.500 you know, surely they're not going to just, you know, play out the clock on this and wait for

00:33:35.420 hockey season to end. He said my word of honor. So here, let's show that clip right now. Take a look

00:33:39.900 at this. I really appreciate you coming out. I would love to do an interview with you. We're in the midst

00:33:44.220 of a live broadcast. So if you're an interview with our publicity anytime. Well, whether or not he

00:33:49.820 actually does an interview with you goes to what his word of honor means. But for the purposes of

00:33:55.660 our lawsuit against the York Regional Police, it shows that you were not doing anything bad because

00:34:02.780 he not only, Ron McLean not only doesn't think you were harassing him, he positively invited you to

00:34:08.700 meet with him. So any pretext, any excuse there is gone. I'm hoping that this lawsuit, because it's a

00:34:14.860 civil lawsuit, will smoke out the communications they had between Rogers and the cops. What did

00:34:21.340 Rogers tell the cops? What did the cops promise Roger? Yes. Rogers. That's very interesting to me.

00:34:29.820 When we sued, when Sheila got hit by that thug, Dion Buse, I don't remember the exact amount,

00:34:35.980 but it was over 30 grand. These cops, as you point out, it's York Regional Police,

00:34:41.660 they're, I don't know, they're probably a billion dollar organization. I'd have to check.

00:34:46.300 They're full of lawyers. Taxpayers money. I think if it goes all the way, there's just no chance this

00:34:56.060 is going to be less than $50,000. And I mean, listen, we have a lot of legal bills around here,

00:35:00.860 but I know what it costs us to take on Sheila's assaulter. Every one of these cops will get a lawyer.

00:35:06.620 All their lawyers will be paid by the taxpayer. They'll probably try and rag the puck. They'll 0.86

00:35:12.700 probably try and drag it out. I don't know what's going to happen here, but I think this is the right

00:35:18.700 thing to do. I want them to recognize what they did to you was wrong. If they don't recognize it,

00:35:27.580 I want a judge to tell them what they did was wrong. I mean, you weren't grievously wounded,

00:35:33.020 but you don't knock a man down. There's some damages there. And I want to know their communications

00:35:39.820 with Rogers and in reverse, because I think that Rogers probably, as you suggest, has some,

00:35:49.580 well, we know that you saw Rogers coordinating the cops with your own eyes. I'd like to see that

00:35:55.900 part of the iceberg under the water that is not visible right now. I think, look, you're not

00:36:01.180 grievously wounded. Yeah. But that's not the point. These are cops, and they can't shove reporters

00:36:07.980 down because some fake celebrity like Ron McLean says so. Standwithdavid.ca. It's going to cost us

00:36:15.740 a lot of money, but I think we have to do it. And you know what, Ezra? This is not a cash grab. I know

00:36:21.820 there's a cliche. Everybody's suing somebody for some amount of money. He says it's not about the money,

00:36:26.060 and of course it's about the money. Well, if we win, we're not going to, we surely won't recoup our

00:36:30.300 costs of it. Yeah. But it is the principle, and it is setting a standard, a benchmark moving forward,

00:36:36.860 allows us to practice journalism. And just last month too, of course, you know, I went down to the

00:36:41.020 candlelight vigil for Iran's ex-terrorist in chief Soleimani. And I mean, it was hard to believe I was

00:36:49.580 in Toronto as opposed to Tehran. But we had a Toronto police officer telling me that if I dare

00:36:55.900 utter the word terrorist one more time, he is going to sue me for breach of peace. And I said to him

00:37:02.380 on camera, I mean, I can't call Osama bin Laden a terrorist. Yeah, I think he said he was going to

00:37:05.660 arrest you. Here, let's take a look at that clip. Yep. So I can't call a terrorist a terrorist?

00:37:09.740 You're not in this sort of environment. No, you can't, okay? Because that's going to incite a breach

00:37:13.900 of the peace. And that is Canadian law. Am I clear? If I was to call Osama bin Laden a terrorist,

00:37:20.060 that would be against... Am I clear? I know you're not clear, sir. I don't,

00:37:23.340 I can't call Osama bin Laden. And it incites a breach of the peace. You will be placed under

00:37:27.660 arrest. Terrorist? Oh, what are we going to be arrested for? What am I going to be arrested for,

00:37:33.100 sir? All right. Well, we can't sue the entire world. I didn't like what that Toronto cop did,

00:37:38.620 but at least he didn't shove you to the ground like in York regional police. Like that, that Toronto cop

00:37:42.860 is awful. Yeah. And I think we have unfinished business with him. David, thanks for doing the 0.89

00:37:48.540 journalism you do. You have been attacked by Jonathan Yaniv. We'll talk about that lawsuit

00:37:52.140 later. You've been attacked by a manager at the Radisson Toronto East. You take a lick and you

00:37:59.900 keep on ticking. But it's my duty as publisher and boss of Rebel News to push back. And so I want our

00:38:07.980 viewers, really, I want you to read the lawsuit. Yeah. So go to standwithdavid.ca. And I know you're

00:38:13.820 already a supporter of Rebel if you're watching this because it's a premium channel. But if you

00:38:20.380 want to help me push back against the cops with this lawsuit, we could sure use your help. So go

00:38:26.060 to standwithdavid.ca. Thanks, David. Thank you, Ezra. And I just want to thank our viewers. They've

00:38:30.060 always come through for us in the past. And without you, we are nothing. So my thanks in advance.

00:38:35.020 There you go. Hey, folks, what do you think about all this censorship happening at around the same

00:38:48.360 time? You've got my interrogation as an author. You've got this plan to license websites. I think

00:38:54.540 that's basically going to be Justin Trudeau's second term. He hates what little objections remain in the

00:39:00.860 media to him. He is offended that Canadians took away his majority. And so he wants to silence the

00:39:07.340 few of us who still criticize him. I think it's going to be dark days ahead. That's the show for

00:39:11.820 today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep

00:39:16.800 fighting for freedom.

00:39:30.860 like, you are welcome.

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Rebel News Podcast - February 04, 2020

Trudeau's Heritage Minister： Every website available in Canada must get a government licence

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