Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau's Liberals propose a new government registry for media

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I hope you saw my show or heard my podcast yesterday when I took a hidden camera

00:00:06.920 into a police interrogation of me. That was quite something. Today, I talk about a less secret but

00:00:12.940 equally ominous move to censor the Internet. Trudeau's handpicked digital media panel reported

00:00:20.480 yesterday, and they want to set up a media registry with codes of conduct. Yeah, that sounds like a

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00:00:56.380 Tonight, the liberals propose a new government registry for the media. It's January 30th,

00:01:09.440 and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:13.120 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:16.840 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:20.480 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:01:25.520 bloody right to do so.

00:01:31.820 Hello, and thanks for your patience yesterday. We were a little bit late in uploading our

00:01:36.140 show because we were literally working on it until 8 p.m. Eastern Time. Normally, we're

00:01:41.020 done hours earlier, but I hope you liked it. If you missed it, please go back and watch it.

00:01:45.840 It probably is the most important video we've ever made at Rebel News. I think it's riveting,

00:01:52.100 and even in some parts entertaining. I'm involved in it. I'm being interrogated by two cops. Of

00:01:56.880 course, I'm interested in it, but the reason it's important is that it shows the absolute state of

00:02:01.280 freedom in Canada today. Two senior cops working for the federal government interrogating an author

00:02:06.780 about a book that criticized the prime minister. It's shocking, but it happened, and it wasn't a slip

00:02:12.320 of a tongue or a misinterpretation or a gaffe. For 55 solid minutes, they asked me questions in

00:02:17.360 10 different ways, all about one thing. How dare I write a book criticizing Justin Trudeau in an

00:02:22.700 election? They were fine with all the pro-Trudeau books out there, just not the anti-Trudeau book.

00:02:30.000 I've got a question for you. I've answered a few of your questions now.

00:02:32.620 Have you investigated any of the other authors who published books about Trudeau at the exact

00:02:39.040 same time as me? Have you investigated John Iveson's book or Aaron Wary's book?

00:02:44.580 There's over 24 books that were published around the computer.

00:02:47.320 You haven't answered my question. Have you investigated John Iveson or Aaron Wary's books?

00:02:51.120 I haven't.

00:02:52.360 Have you?

00:02:53.020 I haven't.

00:02:53.680 Yeah. Is anyone in your office investigating any other books about Justin Trudeau or just the book

00:02:57.600 that's critical of him? It's insane that I was interrogated about a book I wrote. I mean,

00:03:03.400 that's enough right there to call this a five-alarm fire for freedom in Canada. But the fact that they

00:03:08.720 simply refuse to even show me the complaint or tell me who made the complaint, that's right out of

00:03:16.240 Orwell. Can I see the complaint against me? The letter that you received? No. I presume that

00:03:25.260 you're investigating based on a complaint. Oh, this is still part of the investigation. So we'll have

00:03:29.520 to, once the investigation's been completed, the commissioner will have to make a decision. At

00:03:36.800 that point, she'll have to decide if that is releasable or not. It's not something that usually

00:03:41.540 is released, no.

00:03:42.600 So it's a secret complaint?

00:03:44.420 It's not a secret complaint. It's just a complaint that's part of the investigation.

00:03:47.260 And to keep the integrity of the investigation right now, you'll understand that we can't

00:03:54.120 share everything that we have.

00:03:55.680 Oh, I don't want everything that you have. I just, if I'm here to meet a complaint, but

00:04:01.300 you won't show me the complaint, how can I possibly meet the complaint? How can I possibly

00:04:06.640 respond to something that you won't show me?

00:04:10.520 Well, though, I think the letter was quite clear on what we're, what the infraction is

00:04:15.720 is alleged. And this is what we want to clarify with you.

00:04:20.020 Well, did you generate the complaint or was it from an outside party?

00:04:24.300 No, we didn't generate the complaint.

00:04:25.860 Okay, so someone-

00:04:26.620 We did not generate the complaint.

00:04:27.560 So someone external to your office generated the complaint?

00:04:31.740 That is usually the case.

00:04:33.240 Is that the case in this case?

00:04:34.680 Yeah. Yeah, we did not generate the complaint.

00:04:36.720 Okay. Was it the Liberal Party that generated the complaint?

00:04:39.220 We can't go into that, sir.

00:04:40.520 So you won't tell me who the complaint is?

00:04:44.740 The complainant is? Is that the secret?

00:04:46.360 Yeah, no, not at this point.

00:04:48.300 So at what point do you tell me who the secret complaint is?

00:04:50.420 The commissioner is the ultimate responsible person for the investigation and how this is

00:04:58.260 decided.

00:04:58.900 So how do I know what conduct has been complained about if you won't tell me?

00:05:04.980 You know, I tried to make some jokes because the whole thing was so absurd.

00:05:08.440 My name is Paul Couture, spelled C-O-U-T-U-R-E.

00:05:13.600 I will ask my colleague to please identify himself for the recording.

00:05:16.360 My name is Tim Mackin.

00:05:17.400 And, sir, could you, just for recording, advice who you are?

00:05:22.460 Well, it's a secret.

00:05:24.860 I don't know if I can tell you that secret.

00:05:31.560 Just for the recording, we have with us Mr. Levant, who registered at the front office.

00:05:35.900 I saw when he registered, so.

00:05:37.860 Yeah, says you.

00:05:40.520 I mean, look, that's funny, but it's not going to save me from a prosecution.

00:05:44.660 These guys were dead serious.

00:05:46.260 I won't play anymore now.

00:05:47.320 If you missed it, please go back and watch it, either on our premium channel or we also

00:05:52.500 put the whole thing on YouTube.

00:05:54.220 And it's had about a quarter million views in less than 24 hours.

00:05:57.420 So, you know, people are mad about this.

00:06:00.240 Good.

00:06:00.460 So that's what's actually happening right now under the laws we have right now.

00:06:06.340 But what about new laws yet to come?

00:06:10.260 Well, yesterday, Trudeau's handpicked committee unveiled a report on regulating the Internet.

00:06:15.780 They call it Canada's Communications Future Time to Act.

00:06:20.780 Really?

00:06:22.000 I don't think it's time to act.

00:06:23.460 I don't need the government to act.

00:06:26.000 I can buy a cell phone for myself.

00:06:27.480 I can choose what shows I want to stream online by myself, Netflix or whatever.

00:06:33.160 I like Rebel News myself.

00:06:34.960 I can make those choices and I can pay for them myself.

00:06:37.820 Time to act.

00:06:39.320 Who on earth is asking the government to act?

00:06:41.940 Is that what you even think of when you think of what you want to watch?

00:06:45.720 Other than the one thing I'd like them to act on is to stop China's government from colonizing 0.96

00:06:51.520 our Internet and cell phones through their Trojan horse company called Huawei.

00:06:55.120 That's the one thing they refuse to act on.

00:06:57.480 And that's the thing.

00:06:59.040 There are 37 million Canadians who would probably want the freedom to choose and decide for ourselves.

00:07:04.380 But there's a few thousand people who live off the public teat.

00:07:07.980 CBC reporters, media companies getting the bailout, industry insiders, lots of lawyers, I bet.

00:07:15.500 And that's exactly who was on this handpicked panel.

00:07:19.140 It was an inside job.

00:07:21.420 It's a way for vested interests to keep their cash and their power.

00:07:26.840 Now, most of this report is about how the government can shower money on its friends, wring money out of its enemies, that sort of thing.

00:07:36.020 So it's really just grifting subsidy seekers.

00:07:39.800 There's, I don't know, like solar power companies.

00:07:42.420 They live and die by subsidies.

00:07:44.180 Actual consumers aren't really important in the discussion.

00:07:46.640 So it's a lobbyist's feast.

00:07:48.620 But what about political control?

00:07:50.120 Because that's what really animates Trudeau's people now.

00:07:54.020 You saw that in their interrogation of me under the current laws.

00:07:57.780 And as we've shown you before, Trudeau's number two priority in his mandate letter to his heritage minister is to find new ways to censor the Internet that bypass any neutral hearing.

00:08:08.960 How to censor the Internet in 24 hours or less.

00:08:12.220 That is literally his job description.

00:08:16.800 So bad things to come.

00:08:18.320 Trudeau almost lost the election.

00:08:20.020 He lost his majority.

00:08:21.480 He controls what?

00:08:22.500 95, 99 percent of the media through his various schemes.

00:08:25.440 The CBC payment, the newspaper bailout.

00:08:28.560 But people are stubborn and they want what they want and they get it where they'd like to get it, like from us.

00:08:34.580 I saw that the head of Global News yesterday was really excited to announce that they were about to get 1 million YouTube subscribers.

00:08:42.000 So proud.

00:08:43.060 And one of his minions said they would be the first private company to reach that milestone.

00:08:49.980 Yeah, no, guys.

00:08:51.160 We're at 1.29 million YouTube subscribers and growing every day.

00:08:57.500 My point is Canadians don't just want the official liberal version.

00:09:00.540 They want the other side of the story by the million.

00:09:04.360 And that's irritating Trudeau and his friends.

00:09:06.240 Why don't we just take the bailout?

00:09:07.440 Why don't we just shut up and do like the CBC does and frankly like Global News does?

00:09:12.600 Well, enter Trudeau's panel.

00:09:14.480 I downloaded their report and I did a word search.

00:09:17.800 The word regulate appears 54 times in their report.

00:09:23.280 54.

00:09:23.880 Of course it did.

00:09:25.120 Like this.

00:09:26.700 We recommend that the CRTC regulate certain internet media content undertakings.

00:09:31.740 Oh, really?

00:09:32.860 Really?

00:09:33.060 Of course you do.

00:09:33.940 Let me give you an example of one of their proposals.

00:09:36.220 In an increasingly connected society, an appropriate balance should be struck between maintaining a free and open space for the exchange of ideas and information, respecting and protecting individual and collective rights and freedoms,

00:09:49.220 and not further marginalizing Canadians from diverse social locations.

00:09:57.620 At the core of the challenges posed by harmful content is the question of the rights and responsibilities of digital intermediaries for the accuracy or appropriateness of information that is distributed on or shared via their platforms and any related social harms that may be caused.

00:10:19.220 Hang on.

00:10:20.680 I mean, I know the chart of rights.

00:10:22.760 It has a section called Fundamental Freedoms and it says everyone has the following fundamental freedoms.

00:10:31.380 It's granted to me as an individual freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of thought, etc.

00:10:36.020 But now my personal, individual fundamental freedoms, which are ancient, they go back centuries, even millennia by custom, they're now to be balanced against collective rights and diverse social places by people who don't want to be marginalized.

00:10:51.900 What does that even mean?

00:10:52.860 I felt pretty marginalized by Trudeau's cops the other day, but I'm guessing that's not what they mean.

00:10:57.880 Social harm.

00:10:58.880 I didn't see that part in the chart of rights.

00:11:01.040 That's just a way of saying, you know, whatever Trudeau doesn't like, you know, like the oil sands or Albertans or whatever.

00:11:08.300 So how are they going to do this?

00:11:09.440 How are they going to regulate the Internet?

00:11:10.740 Well, they want the government to decide.

00:11:12.380 A strong, financially stable and independent news sector that delivers diverse, accurate, trusted and reliable sources of news to Canadians through a variety of media is essential to the health of democracy and to an engaged citizenry.

00:11:27.040 It is also necessary to counter the spread of misinformation facilitated by communications technologies.

00:11:33.020 This section focuses on ensuring that Canadians have access to a wide range of accurate, reliable and trusted sources of Canadian news.

00:11:39.740 Now, you know, I don't disagree with those ideas as written.

00:11:44.960 Who doesn't want a strong news sector with diverse points of view, trustworthy, reliable to counter misinformation?

00:11:50.680 Yeah, check, check, check.

00:11:51.920 Absolutely.

00:11:52.960 But any two people will have two exactly opposite points of view on that.

00:11:56.920 I believe the CBC is full of left-wing disinformation, propaganda.

00:12:01.540 I believe it is not diverse.

00:12:03.760 I believe it is not trustworthy.

00:12:05.620 Angus Reid's latest poll suggests a lot of people agree with me.

00:12:10.800 But the CBC sure thinks they're honest and that I'm full of it.

00:12:15.700 They think they're right.

00:12:17.320 They think the world is about to die from global warming and only St. Greta will save us.

00:12:21.380 They think that Donald Trump is a Russian spy.

00:12:24.040 They're certain of their truth.

00:12:25.780 My point is, who is telling the truth and who is lying and everything in between?

00:12:29.940 Well, that's ours as individuals to figure out.

00:12:31.960 It's part of life.

00:12:33.540 But this Trudeau hand-picked panel wants to make determinations for you by using the government.

00:12:40.520 Here's one part that I found scary.

00:12:42.080 We recommend that the Broadcasting Act be amended to ensure that the CRTC, that's the government regulator,

00:12:48.120 can, by regulation, condition of license, or conditions of registration, impose codes of conduct.

00:12:58.100 Really?

00:13:00.200 Now, I have a code of conduct.

00:13:01.500 It's called the criminal code.

00:13:02.740 Don't break the law, Ezra.

00:13:03.860 Don't commit a crime.

00:13:04.700 I have the Constitution, which is sort of a code of conduct for how I relate to the government.

00:13:09.480 Stay out of my way.

00:13:10.200 When I was a lawyer, I had a professional code of conduct, as do engineers and doctors and the like.

00:13:17.660 But journalism?

00:13:18.840 That's what I do now.

00:13:20.600 A code of conduct for news reporting on the Internet, for opinions?

00:13:25.200 I report news.

00:13:26.200 I also give opinions.

00:13:27.060 Is there a code of conduct for opinions?

00:13:29.580 Yeah, no.

00:13:30.400 That would only mean censorship and government control.

00:13:33.360 And the thing about journalism, even though journalists are generally, as a class, pompous and arrogant,

00:13:38.500 there is no actual qualification or license to be a journalist.

00:13:43.120 It's just something you do by doing it.

00:13:45.780 How do you know if someone's a journalist?

00:13:47.160 If they start doing journalism, if they start reporting something or give me an opinion.

00:13:52.060 Anyone can cook.

00:13:53.400 You don't need to go to chef's school to cook.

00:13:55.620 It might make you a better chef, a better cook if you go to a chef's school.

00:13:59.000 Maybe not, though.

00:13:59.880 But you can't say to other people, no, you're not allowed to boil an egg or make toast without our code of conduct.

00:14:05.900 But this is a huge but vague document, by the way, this report, which I have learned is how governments best like to operate.

00:14:14.420 They like vagueness since they can fill in the details later in secret in smoky back rooms with their friends in private carving up the taxpayer turkey.

00:14:21.780 Like the other day when we learned that Trudeau spent $131,000 fighting us, the rebel, and True North in court when we won the right to report on the leaders' debates.

00:14:32.220 Remember that in October?

00:14:33.340 Now, we spent $18,000 on our two lawyers, which I thought was a lot of money.

00:14:38.540 I mean, they earned it.

00:14:39.200 They worked hard for it.

00:14:40.700 So we spent $18,000.

00:14:43.120 But the government's five lawyers cost $131,000.

00:14:46.400 I just found that out yesterday.

00:14:47.660 I was surprised that information was actually even made public.

00:14:50.460 Like, I'm shocked, but I'm not really surprised.

00:14:53.100 Five lawyers billed $131,000 to taxpayers for two days' work.

00:14:57.020 That's just crazy.

00:14:57.860 Do you see what I mean?

00:14:58.400 That's the kind of barnacle that's going to leech on to this plan. 0.89

00:15:05.180 That's, well, extrapolate that for the entire media internet report.

00:15:09.540 Imagine every grifter, every schemer, every scammer, every lobbyist.

00:15:13.080 They're going to come for handouts, of course, but mainly for regulations to empower themselves and undermine their rivals.

00:15:19.240 And Justin Trudeau?

00:15:21.380 Well, let's put it this way.

00:15:22.660 Troy Reeb of Global News will continue to get what he wants, as long as he's a good boy and asks gentle questions of Justin Trudeau.

00:15:31.500 Rebel News?

00:15:34.180 Well, I think we can expect a lot more of this.

00:15:36.960 Was it the Liberal Party that generated the complaint?

00:15:39.080 I can't point to that, sir.

00:15:39.660 So you won't tell me who the complaint is, who the complainant is?

00:15:45.740 Is that the secret?

00:15:46.200 Yeah, no, not at this point.

00:15:48.120 So at what point do you tell me who the secret complaint is?

00:15:50.120 The commissioner is the ultimate responsible person for the investigation and how this is decided.

00:15:58.520 So how do I know what conduct has been complained about if you won't tell me?

00:16:04.960 Yeah, I think we're in for a few more battles, my friends.

00:16:08.740 Stay with us for more.

00:16:09.620 We'll see you next time.

00:16:39.620 That was a CBC show called Tout Le Monde en Parle, obviously in Quebec.

00:16:45.720 They had a disco ball.

00:16:47.800 They had music.

00:16:49.520 They had glasses of champagne.

00:16:51.040 And they had applause for a convicted war criminal and murderer named Omar Khadr.

00:17:00.060 That's the CBC.

00:17:01.480 If that wasn't low enough, the CBC is now proudly hosting Omar Khadr on a campus tour.

00:17:10.040 In fact, in less than two weeks, he'll be starting his tour in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

00:17:17.320 I'll be there to report on the event.

00:17:19.120 And so will our next guest, our old friend, Andrew Lawton, who joins us now via Skype.

00:17:24.260 Andrew, great to see you again.

00:17:25.640 I love reporting on things with you because it's nice to have an ally.

00:17:30.300 Tell me about your plans for going to Halifax to cover this Omar Khadr speech.

00:17:36.340 Well, I know it sounds like it's a very low bar, but frankly, I think it's important to be in the room

00:17:41.620 to write and report on what's happening in the full context of who and what Omar Khadr is.

00:17:49.000 And I think that for someone who, as a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion,

00:17:53.820 but as a matter of fact and a matter of law, is a convicted terrorist and murderer,

00:17:59.140 the red carpet treatment Omar Khadr has gotten in Canada by the media and by a lot of activists,

00:18:05.000 certainly those on academic campuses and institutions,

00:18:08.660 is absolutely insane by any standard of where the reasonable questions are,

00:18:14.700 the conversations that need to be happening.

00:18:17.300 So I'm going to be in the room reporting on what's happening fairly.

00:18:20.980 And if there are opportunities to address, whether it's a scrum or interview opportunities,

00:18:25.760 I'll take those because Omar Khadr, for all of the very select opportunities he's given,

00:18:32.120 such as a one-on-one with the Toronto Star, a little scrum in his lawyer's driveway,

00:18:36.140 he's never actually had an interview where the real questions have been asked.

00:18:40.140 Yeah, you're so right.

00:18:41.140 There's so many questions.

00:18:41.940 I wonder if they'll allow questions to be put to him directly,

00:18:45.960 or if they'll do that thing where write it on a card and it'll go to the CBC host

00:18:50.960 and she'll throw out the one she doesn't like.

00:18:53.300 I suspect they have an agreement where they shield this terrorist from scrutiny.

00:18:58.520 But of course, you wouldn't expect anything other from the CBC.

00:19:01.680 They literally threw him a champagne party.

00:19:04.820 They're not going to let him be asked tough questions.

00:19:07.460 Now, let me ask you this.

00:19:09.860 I follow, as you do too, free speech on campus.

00:19:14.900 And I always see an instance of a conservative or a pro-life club or something like that,

00:19:19.960 a Christian club, being shut down, being banned.

00:19:23.420 Recently, a Jewish club was banned from York University and then reinstated.

00:19:28.320 It's hard sometimes to speak on campus if you're conservative.

00:19:32.800 You have to pay security fees, etc.

00:19:35.820 Halifax.

00:19:38.100 Now, how's the university, one of the most prestigious universities in the country,

00:19:41.920 is rolling out the red carpet for this murderer

00:19:46.360 while they crack down on free speech for loyal Canadian citizens?

00:19:52.220 What does that say about the state of universities today?

00:19:56.300 It is funny, the double standard you see here.

00:19:59.260 Now, I'm not someone who wants to de-platform Omar Khadar.

00:20:02.320 I challenge and question the integrity and motivations of those who want to put an event

00:20:07.760 like this together.

00:20:08.560 But I'm not suggesting people pull the fire alarm.

00:20:11.280 I'm not suggesting people demand it be canceled.

00:20:13.740 But it is fascinating that all of the people in response to criticism from people like us

00:20:19.520 are saying, oh, but what about free speech?

00:20:21.760 Are the same people that would be the first to say, oh, Jordan Peterson shouldn't be allowed

00:20:25.920 because he's violent.

00:20:26.860 Violent.

00:20:27.700 This is what they say conservative ideas are, violent.

00:20:30.520 But with Omar Khadar, literal violence, a literal conviction of violence is something

00:20:35.700 that we turn a blind eye to and celebrate him.

00:20:38.820 And I would add as well, this is not a situation where some student group on campus has rented

00:20:44.900 a room and has decided to invite Omar Khadar.

00:20:48.900 However, Dalhousie itself, the school itself is one of the organizers of this alongside the

00:20:54.840 Romeo Dallaire Child Soldiers Initiative.

00:20:57.280 And I asked both organizations, Dalhousie and Romeo Dallaire's foundation, if Omar Khadar

00:21:03.500 is receiving any sort of speaking fee or honorarium and neither responded.

00:21:08.060 No answer whatsoever.

00:21:09.620 And further to that point, I went through the process to get my tickets and everything like

00:21:14.280 that.

00:21:14.580 I'm good to go to the event.

00:21:15.800 And the email that I got, the confirmation email came from a Dalhousie administrator.

00:21:21.780 So it is the school very much that's taking the lead on this.

00:21:25.700 And if I were a taxpaying Nova Scotian or a student who's paying tuition at Dalhousie,

00:21:31.240 I'd be wanting answers from my administration on this.

00:21:34.440 Yeah, of course.

00:21:35.000 Halifax is a Navy city.

00:21:37.200 It's a Canadian forces town in many ways.

00:21:39.520 And they're taking money paid in taxes by those sailors and soldiers and giving it to

00:21:45.420 a terrorist.

00:21:47.140 I've had some logistic questions in my mind, too, because, of course, there's something

00:21:51.300 called a no-fly list.

00:21:53.260 If you're a terrorist or suspected of terror, you're not allowed to fly.

00:21:57.940 Omar Khadar allegedly lives in Edmonton.

00:22:01.080 Dalhousie is very far away.

00:22:02.460 I suppose, theoretically, he could have driven.

00:22:04.640 I don't believe he did.

00:22:05.620 I wonder how he got there.

00:22:07.320 You're asking good questions about, did he get paid?

00:22:11.680 Did he get a private jet to take him from Edmonton to Halifax?

00:22:18.380 Because however politically correct a company is, I don't believe WestJet or Air Canada would

00:22:25.180 let a terrorist on the plane.

00:22:27.240 I just don't think they have political wiggle room for the no-fly list.

00:22:31.180 And Omar Khadar, as a Guantanamo Bay terrorist, would be on the no-fly list for commercial

00:22:37.620 airlines.

00:22:38.060 I don't even know if he's allowed to fly private, frankly.

00:22:41.780 These seem like questions that a journalist would be curious about, but we see no such

00:22:45.880 curiosity from the CBC or the Toronto Star.

00:22:48.280 They're just his PR men.

00:22:49.460 Well, there is something particularly insidious in all of this that CBC is playing the role

00:22:55.760 of moderator at this event.

00:22:58.040 And I want to make it clear here.

00:22:59.400 If you believe in journalistic ethics and journalistic standards, you cannot be a part of an event that

00:23:05.240 is the type of issue you'd be covering.

00:23:07.440 So CBC, which presumably has covered Omar Khadar in its view fairly, is now in a role that is

00:23:14.200 there to celebrate him.

00:23:15.740 The moderator is there to extol his story and hold him up as an example in this.

00:23:21.100 And that is not at all what a reporter who's supposed to be reporting transparently on this

00:23:26.720 should be doing.

00:23:27.800 So I wonder if there's a violation of CBC's own journalistic standards in being at an event

00:23:32.640 like this.

00:23:33.020 Yeah, but those standards, they don't mean them.

00:23:35.840 That's a great point.

00:23:36.660 If this was a debate and he was on one side of it, because there is a debate about Omar Khadar.

00:23:40.600 And by the way, if all you did was listen to the media party, you would think Omar Khadar

00:23:43.920 is universally loved.

00:23:45.520 But as we saw when Trudeau gave him $10.5 million in a public apology, he's despised by everyone

00:23:52.520 except the fancy people.

00:23:54.480 So there is obviously a divergence on do people like this murderer or not.

00:24:00.560 So I could see a reporter moderating a debate, is terrorism good or bad?

00:24:07.380 But to actually chair and champion, let's have this gala event for a convicted terrorist,

00:24:15.720 that's super gross, but really no much more gross than that champagne party they threw for

00:24:21.040 him at Tulemon d'Amparo.

00:24:23.520 Yeah, and that was his first real public appearance in a way.

00:24:27.780 This is the first one that's actually open to the public.

00:24:30.980 I mean, that appearance on Tulemon d'Amparo was in front of an audience, but it was very

00:24:34.820 much a closed audience.

00:24:36.380 So he has had very selective exposure, as I mentioned earlier.

00:24:40.700 And what's interesting, you may remember when he was first released from custody and he had

00:24:44.860 that impromptu scrum in Dennis Edney's driveway, there was a line from that that I believe you

00:24:51.240 actually reported on when it first happened, where the lawyer had said, if anyone asks any

00:24:55.340 questions we don't like, we're going inside and we're ending this now.

00:24:59.420 And there has been no real opportunity for people to sit down and have a frank discussion

00:25:05.960 and say, okay, but are you renouncing your family that put you in this situation, you

00:25:11.480 say?

00:25:11.860 Are you renouncing the values and ideas that radicals express?

00:25:16.220 Are you denouncing Al-Qaeda?

00:25:17.600 All of these questions that I think are very legitimate.

00:25:20.440 And if he were just to say, I want to live a normal life, which he did on Tulemon d'Amparo,

00:25:25.580 Carl, why do this victim tour, which is the best way I can think of to describe it?

00:25:30.920 If he wants to live a normal life, reintegrate, adopt the values of people in Canada, then

00:25:36.180 that's fine.

00:25:36.740 You can do that quietly.

00:25:38.160 But to get up on a stage in this capacity is a very different story that's being told.

00:25:43.440 You know, I want to show you a quick clip.

00:25:46.680 I mean, I wrote a book about Omar Khadr years ago called The Enemy Within, Terrorize the

00:25:51.040 Whitewashing of Omar Khadr.

00:25:52.380 I was trying to make the case why Canada could keep him out.

00:25:56.520 That didn't work, obviously.

00:25:58.320 We've covered it.

00:25:59.180 You've covered it.

00:25:59.900 I want to show you when our reporter, Kian Bexty, encountered Omar Khadr and his lawyer,

00:26:06.620 I think it was at an Edmonton courthouse.

00:26:08.860 And Kian, I think, Andrew, was the first reporter ever to put a question to Khadr's lawyer

00:26:18.120 and call Khadr a terrorist.

00:26:20.700 And the lawyer was shocked because in all the years Khadr's been here, in all the hundreds

00:26:28.780 of media questions, no reporters actually called him a terrorist.

00:26:34.480 And the lawyer was stunned.

00:26:36.540 Here, take a look at this.

00:26:38.260 Even if he gets a passport, which airline in Canada will take him to Saudi Arabia?

00:26:41.980 You'd have to ask some Canadian airlines.

00:26:45.280 I doubt that they'd want to take a terrorist across the sea to Saudi Arabia.

00:26:51.860 The laughing on his face and the smirk on Khadr's face, they had never heard that basic fact put

00:27:00.540 to them, and they were laughing because they knew it was true.

00:27:03.700 And oh, Rebel News.

00:27:05.660 I mean, that right there says so much about our legal system, our judicial system, our media, everything.

00:27:13.400 I'm so glad you're going out to Halifax, and I'll be there too.

00:27:17.320 And I hope others.

00:27:19.860 But I think that you and I will be pretty lonely there asking the questions we can.

00:27:24.280 Now, is there a way to help get you there?

00:27:25.800 Do you have a crowdfund to help get your plane ticket?

00:27:27.500 I think I saw something to that effect.

00:27:29.280 Yeah, we do, and I appreciate that.

00:27:31.520 If you go to andrewlaughtonshow.com, in the bottom right corner of the page, there's a

00:27:36.380 link to donate, and we appreciate very much the support.

00:27:39.340 Like I said, and I know you've said as well, we're not getting that $600 million media fund,

00:27:43.620 so the people that support the work that we're doing are the ones we rely on to do this.

00:27:47.820 Yeah, well, you know me.

00:27:48.680 I'm a super fan of yours, and I'm so proud that you've got the Andrew Lawton Show up and

00:27:53.480 running.

00:27:53.780 I can see you in your studio there, and Mazel Tov.

00:27:57.300 So give us a quick word about that before we let you go. 0.98

00:28:00.380 How often does the show remind us when it is, where we can find it, stuff like that?

00:28:04.900 Yeah, it's twice a week for now.

00:28:06.400 We're getting the kinks worked out, and we'll probably add another edition later on.

00:28:09.760 But it's also at andrewlaughtonshow.com.

00:28:12.180 You can watch it on YouTube, and there's also links to subscribe in whatever podcast form

00:28:16.640 you like, whether it's Apple Podcasts or Google Play.

00:28:19.160 So obviously, there is more room for us in this world, given how few of us there are

00:28:24.820 that talk about these issues.

00:28:25.980 So I appreciate people can subscribe to mine right alongside yours.

00:28:29.460 Well, and I absolutely recommend it.

00:28:32.820 I agree with you.

00:28:34.240 There is such a need for the other side of the story.

00:28:38.620 Rebel is not big enough.

00:28:40.100 There's not enough of us.

00:28:41.280 So you and your friends at True North, Candace, Malcolm, and others, we love you and what

00:28:46.420 you're doing.

00:28:47.100 And I consider you guys allies and friends.

00:28:50.000 And you and I have worked together in various interesting places on free speech issues.

00:28:55.160 So I know I'll see you out there.

00:28:58.340 And I feel like we're creating sort of an alternative press gallery of independent thinking

00:29:04.460 journalists that aren't on the Media Bailout Fund.

00:29:08.000 And I'm impressed with some of the things the Post Millennial is doing.

00:29:11.240 There's that fellow in Winnipeg, Spencer Fernando.

00:29:13.960 So I see little green shoots of hope out there.

00:29:17.520 And you guys are definitely one of them.

00:29:20.420 So congratulations on the renewal of the show.

00:29:23.520 That's appreciated and very much reciprocated, Ezra.

00:29:25.800 Thank you.

00:29:26.280 Right on, my friend.

00:29:27.000 All right.

00:29:27.220 You take care.

00:29:27.760 Keep fighting for the good stuff.

00:29:30.500 You're one of the best.

00:29:31.460 And it's great to have you on our show.

00:29:33.180 Thank you.

00:29:33.580 There you have it.

00:29:34.480 Our friend Andrew Lawton, you heard his details about the Andrew Lawton Show.

00:29:39.280 And I'm so glad he'll be out there at Dalhousie.

00:29:42.800 I'll be going out there, too.

00:29:45.040 And it'll be interesting to see how they run defense for Cotter.

00:29:50.260 I'm sure they will.

00:29:51.320 All right.

00:29:51.700 Stay with us.

00:29:52.240 More ahead on the road.

00:30:00.740 Hey, welcome back.

00:30:01.680 On my show yesterday about Elections Canada interrogating me over my book, The Libranos.

00:30:06.420 Greg writes, wow, great video.

00:30:09.100 I'm glad you recorded it.

00:30:10.280 No one would have ever believed you.

00:30:11.800 It's a little scary.

00:30:13.120 Yeah.

00:30:13.300 I mean, it's a natural thing.

00:30:15.340 If you hear someone tell a tall tale, especially if they're the hero or the victim in it, and

00:30:19.760 someone else is the villain, you're skeptical.

00:30:22.260 It's human nature.

00:30:23.460 You want to hear the other side of the story, and then it's a he said, she said thing.

00:30:26.680 Well, that video sort of proves the truth of it, don't you think?

00:30:29.780 That's why they said don't video it.

00:30:31.520 Allison writes, thank you for fighting for Canada.

00:30:35.480 Your interrogation video was eerily similar to the Chinese interrogation video of the man

00:30:40.720 strapped to the chair, except in your case, you were fearless in your defense of our freedom.

00:30:44.900 So it's nice of you to say, and I'm glad you remember that terrifying chair.

00:30:48.440 Um, that's the thing.

00:30:50.940 It was true. 0.75

00:30:51.800 The door was unlocked, I assume, and I could have left if I wanted to, I assume.

00:30:56.380 So we're not quite as bad, but it was just as bizarre.

00:31:00.820 In honesty, though, I think I interrogated them as much as they interrogated me.

00:31:05.840 Lou writes, you did well in recording that sham interview.

00:31:09.040 You have good lawyers, and the fight is a good one.

00:31:10.720 Freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

00:31:12.400 Consider writing another book about this liberal government, Witch Hunt.

00:31:15.100 Their actions prove the Libranos thesis.

00:31:17.140 Trudeau and the liberals are corrupt.

00:31:19.460 You know, it's, that's exactly right.

00:31:22.540 It, the book, remember the book, the Libranos that started this whole thing, allegedly.

00:31:27.940 What the Media Party Won't Tell You About Justin Trudeau's Corruption.

00:31:30.720 That's the sub-headline.

00:31:32.740 Hasn't this sort of proved everything we said in the book?

00:31:35.920 And I should tell you that yesterday, my book was, I think it was ranked 1,200 on the bestsellers list.

00:31:43.120 Amazon.ca ranks every book.

00:31:45.680 So, I mean, you can even find what book is ranked, like, 100,000.

00:31:50.380 So, yesterday, the Libranos was at, like, I think it was 1,209 to be precise.

00:31:56.860 I checked this afternoon.

00:31:59.080 I know it sounds crazy, but the Libranos is number one on the Amazon.ca Canadian bestseller list.

00:32:07.400 It went to number one.

00:32:11.600 And that's human nature, because everyone wants to know what Justin Trudeau won't let them see.

00:32:18.000 Isn't that ironic?

00:32:19.860 That's our show for today.

00:32:21.540 I will have more from that interrogation in the days ahead.

00:32:26.140 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.

00:32:30.200 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:32:31.980 And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - January 31, 2020

Trudeau's Liberals propose a new government registry for media

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