Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau’s Liberals say they will legally censor anyone who “taunts” them — so, it was nice knowing you!

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, don't say the liberals didn't warn you.

00:00:02.800 They're actually pretty good about warning us

00:00:04.480 about the worst things they're going to do.

00:00:06.260 The carbon tax, for example, they told us that was coming.

00:00:09.660 Well, they've been telling us for months

00:00:10.860 that they're coming to censor the internet.

00:00:13.520 They're explaining how and how hard.

00:00:16.900 And today I'm going to show you the heritage minister saying

00:00:19.020 he has an extreme idea, that's his word,

00:00:22.840 that includes a nuclear option.

00:00:25.200 That's his word.

00:00:26.400 I'll tell you what that is.

00:00:27.960 And you know he's coming for us, right?

00:00:30.000 That's today's podcast.

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00:01:15.100 All right, my friends.

00:01:15.820 Here's today's podcast.

00:01:16.560 Tonight, Trudeau's liberals say

00:01:34.020 they will legally censor anyone who taunts them.

00:01:38.340 So anyways, nice being knowing you.

00:01:40.600 It's April 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:42.960 Why should others go to jail

00:01:46.400 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:48.620 There's 8,500 customers here,

00:01:50.900 and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:52.680 The only thing I have to say to the government

00:01:54.620 about why I publish it

00:01:56.180 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:03.540 Sometimes politicians ambush you.

00:02:05.960 They say one thing,

00:02:06.860 and then after they get what they want from you,

00:02:08.640 your vote,

00:02:09.200 they reveal their true colors as in their liars.

00:02:12.780 Like all politicians,

00:02:13.900 Trudeau is a bit of a liar,

00:02:15.040 but I have to give him some credit

00:02:16.560 where it's due.

00:02:17.580 In many cases,

00:02:19.160 he really does tell us in advance

00:02:21.040 what he is going to do to us.

00:02:23.200 He told us,

00:02:24.020 even before he was Liberal Party leader,

00:02:26.420 that China was his favorite country.

00:02:28.640 There's a level of admiration

00:02:31.080 I actually have for China

00:02:32.860 because their basic dictatorship

00:02:38.160 is allowing them

00:02:39.660 to actually turn their economy around on a dime.

00:02:42.760 Trudeau told us

00:02:43.660 that he loved marijuana so much

00:02:46.000 that he didn't want to just decriminalize it.

00:02:48.700 He wanted to legalize it.

00:02:50.420 He told us.

00:02:50.980 I have been in my past

00:02:52.520 a very rare user of marijuana.

00:02:55.820 I think five or six times in my life

00:02:57.520 that I've taken a puff.

00:02:58.840 As has been said many times,

00:03:01.340 the legalization of marijuana

00:03:02.700 is not an event.

00:03:05.380 It's a process.

00:03:07.120 And as we do that,

00:03:08.300 we will continue to move forward

00:03:10.940 and be responsive to challenges

00:03:12.980 that come up

00:03:13.600 and opportunities that come up.

00:03:15.280 But I need to reiterate

00:03:16.700 the importance of moving forward

00:03:19.740 as planned this summer

00:03:21.840 on the legalization

00:03:23.640 and control of marijuana.

00:03:25.020 Trudeau told us countless times

00:03:26.860 that he was going to bring in a carbon tax.

00:03:29.800 I mean, sure,

00:03:30.180 he lied about the details.

00:03:31.580 He lied about the rate.

00:03:32.780 He would jack it up.

00:03:33.840 But I can't say

00:03:36.280 that any of his carbon tax stuff

00:03:38.440 has really been an ambush.

00:03:40.620 The guy poses for pictures

00:03:42.300 with George Soros.

00:03:43.460 He goes on TV

00:03:45.120 to tell the United Nations

00:03:46.520 that he's excited

00:03:48.000 about their great reset.

00:03:50.320 This pandemic has provided

00:03:51.600 an opportunity for a reset.

00:03:53.760 There's a certain honesty

00:03:55.100 to Trudeau's corruption,

00:03:56.260 whereas lesser liars

00:03:57.860 like Aaron O'Toole

00:03:58.760 campaign on one thing

00:04:00.140 and then do another.

00:04:01.500 Trudeau's views on,

00:04:02.860 well, I mean,

00:04:03.320 Aaron O'Toole, for example,

00:04:04.400 on cancel culture

00:04:05.660 or global warming

00:04:06.420 or foreign aid

00:04:07.180 or CBC funding,

00:04:07.940 those are a few examples there.

00:04:09.420 But my point is,

00:04:10.260 for months,

00:04:11.720 we've been watching Trudeau

00:04:13.040 get things in line

00:04:14.780 for his massive new

00:04:16.200 censorship program.

00:04:18.320 He has not been hiding it,

00:04:19.940 is my point.

00:04:20.860 It's not an ambush.

00:04:22.100 It is coming.

00:04:22.860 The greatest censorship

00:04:25.360 of Canadian media

00:04:26.320 since the Second World War

00:04:28.160 when military censors

00:04:29.280 reviewed every newspaper

00:04:30.580 in the country

00:04:31.040 before publishing.

00:04:32.860 But that was only

00:04:33.440 to protect military secrets,

00:04:35.080 not to quell political debates.

00:04:37.260 Trudeau has been working

00:04:38.320 on this censorship

00:04:39.280 for years.

00:04:40.340 In fact,

00:04:41.260 for several years,

00:04:42.560 it has been part of

00:04:43.800 Stephen Gilbeau's mandate letter.

00:04:46.160 He's the heritage minister.

00:04:48.100 The very second priority

00:04:49.700 has been censorship.

00:04:50.580 So first,

00:04:52.860 Trudeau softened up his targets

00:04:54.260 by boosting his annual grant

00:04:56.100 to the CBC

00:04:56.760 and by putting the country's newspapers

00:04:58.780 on his payroll

00:04:59.700 through the media bailout.

00:05:01.800 I mean,

00:05:02.020 once you agree to take his money,

00:05:03.400 you can't really oppose

00:05:04.240 your new boss,

00:05:05.340 can you?

00:05:06.460 It's like asking

00:05:07.480 the mafia for a favor.

00:05:09.620 All right,

00:05:10.420 but then you're indebted

00:05:11.420 to them forever.

00:05:12.580 So the CBC has always

00:05:14.160 been in Trudeau's pocket,

00:05:16.000 but now 99%

00:05:17.040 of the rest of the media

00:05:18.140 is in Trudeau's pocket too.

00:05:20.500 It's just a few

00:05:21.200 online outfits

00:05:22.300 like us at Rebel News

00:05:23.620 and True North

00:05:24.840 and Black Locks,

00:05:26.760 Western Standard Online

00:05:27.980 in Alberta,

00:05:28.780 The Breaker.

00:05:30.160 It's almost it,

00:05:31.480 Spencer Fernando.

00:05:32.420 A handful.

00:05:34.420 But more than 99%

00:05:37.500 of the media in Canada

00:05:38.540 is under direct liberal control

00:05:40.100 through money.

00:05:41.400 But that last 1%,

00:05:43.180 that seems to mean

00:05:45.400 everything to Trudeau

00:05:46.360 because you can have

00:05:47.920 a dark room

00:05:48.740 with 100 candles in it

00:05:50.920 and you can snuff out

00:05:52.600 99 of those candles.

00:05:55.620 But if there's just

00:05:56.880 one candle

00:05:57.940 that's still burning,

00:06:00.460 the room's not dark,

00:06:02.080 is it?

00:06:02.420 As long as

00:06:04.420 one last candle

00:06:06.420 is lit,

00:06:07.000 there is still light,

00:06:07.920 isn't there?

00:06:09.300 And if you want darkness

00:06:10.900 because you don't want

00:06:11.900 scrutiny

00:06:12.240 and you don't want

00:06:13.240 criticism

00:06:13.740 and you don't want

00:06:14.680 opposition,

00:06:15.540 then actually

00:06:16.420 that last candle,

00:06:18.980 that last holdout,

00:06:21.160 it absolutely has to be

00:06:23.360 snuffed out at all costs.

00:06:24.680 It's actually more important

00:06:25.740 than the first 99,

00:06:27.060 isn't it?

00:06:29.060 Well, here they come

00:06:29.920 to try and snuff us out.

00:06:30.900 Look at this story

00:06:32.420 in Black Locks today.

00:06:35.040 Will censor

00:06:35.740 political taunts?

00:06:36.760 Federal internet censors

00:06:38.020 should target hurtful words

00:06:39.760 against politicians,

00:06:41.040 says Heritage Minister

00:06:42.120 Stephen Gilboa.

00:06:43.520 The minister added

00:06:44.500 pending regulations

00:06:45.340 may include

00:06:45.940 an internet

00:06:46.560 kill switch

00:06:48.040 to block websites

00:06:49.600 deemed hurtful

00:06:50.900 but called it

00:06:51.440 a nuclear option.

00:06:53.020 Oh my God.

00:06:54.040 Let me read the first

00:06:54.740 five paragraphs

00:06:55.460 to you from this story.

00:06:56.280 They're stunning,

00:06:56.960 actually.

00:06:57.800 So just don't say

00:06:58.920 you weren't warned,

00:06:59.620 right?

00:07:01.160 We have seen

00:07:01.840 too many examples

00:07:02.640 of public officials

00:07:03.440 retreating from public service

00:07:05.140 due to the hateful

00:07:07.460 online content

00:07:08.280 targeted towards themselves

00:07:09.300 or even their families,

00:07:10.640 said Gilboa.

00:07:12.480 I have seen firsthand

00:07:14.280 alongside other Canadians

00:07:15.420 the damaging effects

00:07:16.400 harmful content

00:07:17.560 has on our families,

00:07:18.700 our values,

00:07:19.260 and our institutions.

00:07:19.920 As a dad

00:07:20.780 and a stepdad

00:07:21.800 to six kids,

00:07:22.520 I know more

00:07:23.300 can and should be done

00:07:24.480 to create a safer

00:07:25.140 online environment.

00:07:27.520 Gilboa made his remarks

00:07:28.500 in a podcast

00:07:29.040 sponsored by Canada 2020,

00:07:30.900 an Ottawa think tank

00:07:31.580 affiliated with the Liberal Party.

00:07:33.480 Legislation to censor

00:07:34.380 internet content

00:07:35.000 will be introduced shortly,

00:07:36.040 he said.

00:07:36.420 I am confident

00:07:38.640 we can get this adopted,

00:07:39.980 said Gilboa.

00:07:40.760 Once the legislation

00:07:41.700 is adopted,

00:07:42.380 clearly creating a new body,

00:07:44.260 a new regulator

00:07:44.960 like that in Canada

00:07:45.780 would take some time.

00:07:47.460 Could we envision

00:07:48.140 having blocking orders?

00:07:49.760 Maybe,

00:07:50.380 he said.

00:07:51.280 It would likely be

00:07:52.020 a last resort,

00:07:52.760 a nuclear bomb

00:07:53.500 in a toolbox of mechanisms

00:07:54.820 for a regulator.

00:07:56.120 It's pretty extreme,

00:07:57.360 but theoretically

00:07:58.040 it is a tool

00:07:58.720 that is out there

00:07:59.440 and could potentially

00:08:00.240 be used,

00:08:00.760 said Gilboa,

00:08:01.380 but really no decisions

00:08:02.560 have been made on that.

00:08:04.140 This is something

00:08:04.840 you would see

00:08:05.420 as part of the regulations

00:08:06.780 most likely.

00:08:08.700 Okay,

00:08:08.960 stop for a moment.

00:08:10.440 He's admitting

00:08:11.140 it's an extreme idea,

00:08:13.040 it would be extreme censorship.

00:08:14.480 He used that word.

00:08:15.820 He compared it

00:08:16.540 to a nuclear bomb,

00:08:17.800 not to take down

00:08:18.960 terrorist websites,

00:08:20.060 not to take down

00:08:20.620 child pornography websites,

00:08:22.140 but to take down

00:08:23.120 comments by people

00:08:24.920 who are politically mean

00:08:26.380 to liberal politicians.

00:08:28.240 Internet censors

00:08:29.140 should have federal powers

00:08:32.020 to delete content piecemeal,

00:08:33.960 said Gilboa.

00:08:35.640 There is this notion

00:08:36.780 of a 24-hour takedown,

00:08:38.020 he said.

00:08:38.500 This is something

00:08:39.040 we want to do in Canada.

00:08:40.620 On online platforms,

00:08:42.160 when something is posted there,

00:08:43.540 it can stay there

00:08:44.180 for a very long time,

00:08:45.100 he said.

00:08:45.720 It can get reproduced

00:08:46.900 and shared and re-shared

00:08:47.760 hundreds,

00:08:48.500 thousands,

00:08:49.120 hundreds of thousands

00:08:49.720 of times,

00:08:50.300 and it's very difficult

00:08:51.120 for people,

00:08:51.900 individual citizens,

00:08:52.740 to have any control over it.

00:08:54.380 So we want to shift

00:08:55.180 the burden from people

00:08:56.040 to the platform.

00:08:58.100 The thing is that

00:08:59.000 that's not new.

00:09:01.100 Threats or defamation

00:09:02.460 or any other word crime,

00:09:04.920 a forgery,

00:09:05.660 a copyright violation,

00:09:06.920 whatever,

00:09:07.740 can be seen thousands

00:09:08.940 of times before the law

00:09:10.140 catches up to it.

00:09:11.800 Maybe you saw that smear

00:09:12.800 the other day

00:09:13.300 that 60 Minutes

00:09:14.100 just tried to do

00:09:14.720 to Ron DeSantis,

00:09:15.500 the governor of Florida.

00:09:16.140 I bet 10 million people

00:09:18.420 saw that.

00:09:20.420 Okay, the law

00:09:20.960 will catch up to them.

00:09:22.540 Books once published

00:09:23.660 last decade,

00:09:24.720 centuries even.

00:09:25.620 So nothing he's talking

00:09:27.000 about is new.

00:09:28.460 The law can catch up.

00:09:29.720 It already has.

00:09:30.220 YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.

00:09:31.520 They're not brand new,

00:09:32.340 by the way.

00:09:32.740 They're all over

00:09:33.160 a decade old.

00:09:33.780 Facebook,

00:09:34.580 if you can believe it,

00:09:35.280 it's 17 years old now.

00:09:37.500 You can sue someone

00:09:38.660 for a Facebook post

00:09:39.660 if it breaks the law.

00:09:40.920 Police can respond

00:09:41.700 to a death threat

00:09:42.500 made on Facebook

00:09:43.280 just like they would

00:09:44.260 if the death threat

00:09:44.980 was made on a piece of paper

00:09:46.040 or the telephone

00:09:47.140 on the radio or whatever.

00:09:49.300 All that's new here

00:09:50.680 is a politician

00:09:52.000 who's getting more

00:09:52.700 and more comfortable

00:09:53.420 ordering the internet

00:09:54.580 to erase his opponents.

00:09:56.420 The internet is actually

00:09:57.360 not new.

00:09:57.880 It's about 30 years old

00:09:59.460 in terms of the popular internet.

00:10:01.200 That's not new.

00:10:02.160 What's new is politicians

00:10:03.580 saying,

00:10:05.080 I want the power

00:10:05.840 to censor.

00:10:06.600 I mean,

00:10:07.260 Gilboa has dreamed

00:10:08.160 for years

00:10:09.180 of censoring his political enemies.

00:10:10.420 Look at this

00:10:10.900 weird tweet

00:10:12.040 from him

00:10:12.580 years ago.

00:10:14.120 He said,

00:10:15.140 Discus hosts

00:10:16.540 Breitbart's racist,

00:10:17.880 sexist cesspool

00:10:19.040 of a comment section

00:10:19.960 and doesn't seem

00:10:21.220 to have a problem

00:10:22.000 with it.

00:10:23.500 So he wants

00:10:24.840 to delete

00:10:25.340 an entire comment section

00:10:27.060 of a media company

00:10:29.020 in another country,

00:10:30.080 no less.

00:10:30.700 He's trying to

00:10:31.660 de-platform

00:10:32.720 a news website

00:10:33.480 in another country

00:10:34.280 and he's wanted this

00:10:35.160 for years.

00:10:35.920 That was him

00:10:36.360 four years ago

00:10:36.900 but now he's doing it.

00:10:38.760 And he wants

00:10:39.460 to be able to do it

00:10:40.200 in 24 hours.

00:10:41.120 Why 24 hours?

00:10:42.920 I can see

00:10:43.480 taking down

00:10:43.940 a terrorist threat

00:10:44.740 or a death threat

00:10:45.640 really quickly

00:10:46.540 like that.

00:10:47.300 I don't think

00:10:47.940 Facebook would need

00:10:49.100 a politician

00:10:50.060 to tell them

00:10:50.600 to do that

00:10:51.180 but you heard

00:10:52.240 Gilboa,

00:10:52.640 he wants to do

00:10:53.360 that for taunts

00:10:54.660 because you can't

00:10:56.540 have a real trial

00:10:57.240 in 24 hours

00:10:57.960 so it would be

00:10:58.560 a command really,

00:10:59.840 a show trial at most.

00:11:01.160 That's the censorship way

00:11:02.300 and who do you think

00:11:03.540 they're coming for?

00:11:05.060 Well,

00:11:05.780 ask Catherine McKenna. 0.75

00:11:07.140 Hi Minister,

00:11:08.000 how are you

00:11:08.340 this morning?

00:11:09.060 I'm great.

00:11:09.980 Could you tell me

00:11:10.440 what you meant

00:11:10.940 when you said

00:11:11.700 yesterday that

00:11:12.260 your government

00:11:12.720 might regulate

00:11:13.420 everything?

00:11:14.980 I certainly

00:11:15.620 never said that.

00:11:16.760 You actually

00:11:17.620 said it as a threat.

00:11:18.440 Unfortunately,

00:11:19.000 Rebel News

00:11:19.440 always distorts

00:11:20.340 what I say.

00:11:21.280 It was quite clear.

00:11:22.360 You said it in a tweet

00:11:23.160 as a threat

00:11:23.840 to companies,

00:11:24.480 digital companies

00:11:25.040 that don't regulate

00:11:25.680 themselves.

00:11:26.220 You said the government

00:11:27.180 could regulate

00:11:27.900 everything.

00:11:28.200 I want to say to you

00:11:28.700 that you guys

00:11:29.820 are contributing

00:11:30.880 to hate against me

00:11:32.200 because you spread

00:11:33.420 misinformation

00:11:33.940 and disinformation.

00:11:35.040 I will continue

00:11:35.780 to call out

00:11:36.500 your misinformation

00:11:37.160 and disinformation

00:11:38.020 every single day.

00:11:39.740 What was the misinformation?

00:11:40.920 Please tell me.

00:11:41.440 I'd be interested to hear.

00:11:42.720 The misinformation

00:11:43.300 and disinformation

00:11:44.080 is what you just said

00:11:45.220 right now.

00:11:46.060 You threatened yesterday

00:11:46.980 to regulate.

00:11:48.380 You said on Twitter.

00:11:50.080 You know what I don't like

00:11:51.200 is that you're contributing

00:11:53.480 to all the hate

00:11:54.800 I'm receiving.

00:11:56.000 I did an online,

00:11:57.200 I did an event

00:12:00.300 with women politicians. 0.65

00:12:01.580 The amount of hate

00:12:03.880 that women politicians 1.00

00:12:04.760 is getting

00:12:05.400 from outlets like you

00:12:06.580 is completely unacceptable.

00:12:08.260 About half of our

00:12:09.020 journalists are women. 0.99

00:12:10.200 Why are you targeting

00:12:11.020 us specifically over that?

00:12:12.400 It's your comments

00:12:13.100 that we're asking you about.

00:12:15.620 The funny thing is

00:12:16.780 that McKenna and Gilbo

00:12:17.760 are the rudest,

00:12:19.300 most obnoxious

00:12:20.160 bigots around.

00:12:21.660 They sure can dish it out.

00:12:23.800 They just can't take it.

00:12:25.140 I mean, Gilbo himself,

00:12:26.440 he's actually a convicted criminal.

00:12:29.180 I don't know how he managed

00:12:30.120 to get into cabinet

00:12:30.960 and did the RCMP

00:12:32.060 not object to a convicted

00:12:33.440 criminal in cabinet?

00:12:34.680 And McKenna, 0.85

00:12:35.480 she smears anyone 1.00

00:12:36.500 who disagrees with her

00:12:37.480 as a denier.

00:12:38.760 She uses language

00:12:39.960 that tracks Holocaust denial.

00:12:42.400 She tries to say

00:12:43.240 you're a Nazi

00:12:44.300 if you don't agree with her.

00:12:45.280 I mean, listen to her contempt

00:12:46.860 for the public here.

00:12:48.320 You know, I actually

00:12:49.220 gave them some real advice.

00:12:50.980 I said that if you

00:12:51.860 actually say it louder,

00:12:53.100 we've learned

00:12:53.520 in the House of Commons,

00:12:54.380 if you repeat it,

00:12:55.260 if you say it louder,

00:12:56.140 if that is your talking point,

00:12:57.660 people will totally believe it.

00:12:59.280 So just go in.

00:13:00.000 Yeah, kids,

00:13:00.660 don't drink and tweet, okay?

00:13:03.000 But for Gilbo to complain 0.99

00:13:04.300 about rudeness

00:13:04.940 is just next-level gaslighting.

00:13:07.040 I really don't know

00:13:07.880 any MP from any party

00:13:09.260 who is more abusive

00:13:10.860 to citizens online.

00:13:12.260 Here's just a little sample,

00:13:14.600 just a couple.

00:13:15.100 Why am I not surprised?

00:13:16.820 Ezra Levan's rebel media

00:13:18.260 boosts propaganda

00:13:19.640 from neo-Nazi group.

00:13:21.640 No, you wicked liar.

00:13:23.440 Please don't call me

00:13:24.280 a Nazi booster.

00:13:25.320 I'm actually a Jew.

00:13:27.140 Here's another one.

00:13:27.920 Rebel media's climate

00:13:30.000 denial expert

00:13:30.800 was too dumb

00:13:31.640 to be sued for defamation,

00:13:33.460 B.C. court rules.

00:13:36.280 Oh, that's not true,

00:13:37.960 of course,

00:13:38.380 but we're not talking

00:13:39.380 about truth.

00:13:39.840 We're just talking

00:13:40.360 about mean tweets, right?

00:13:41.960 I mean, Gilbo wants

00:13:42.700 to ban mean tweets, right?

00:13:44.700 For other people,

00:13:45.980 but not for himself.

00:13:47.180 Look, this isn't really

00:13:48.440 about hurt feelings.

00:13:50.460 Gilbo calls Jews Nazis.

00:13:52.960 Gilbo himself

00:13:53.660 as an unrepentant,

00:13:55.560 convicted criminal.

00:13:57.940 Gilbo doesn't believe

00:13:58.760 in the same moral code

00:13:59.760 that you and I do.

00:14:00.860 He believes in raw power.

00:14:02.880 He believes in breaking the law

00:14:04.340 when it suits him.

00:14:06.060 And now he's a lawmaker?

00:14:08.000 He's the most obnoxious,

00:14:09.600 defamatory smearer

00:14:10.640 in all of Parliament,

00:14:11.620 but now he'll pretend

00:14:12.680 he's about good taste

00:14:14.100 and hurt feelings

00:14:15.240 while he bans

00:14:16.440 the last 1%

00:14:17.720 of the media in Canada

00:14:18.800 that didn't take his bribe.

00:14:20.980 I guess my point is, folks,

00:14:24.060 don't say they didn't warn you,

00:14:26.900 but come back next week

00:14:28.840 because if we're still

00:14:30.280 on the internet,

00:14:31.540 I'll have some very interesting

00:14:33.160 news for you on this subject.

00:14:35.280 Stay with us for more.

00:14:47.940 I'm very excited

00:14:49.300 about our next guest.

00:14:51.020 Lindsay Shepard

00:14:51.980 skyrocketed

00:14:53.520 to international acclaim

00:14:55.800 in 2017

00:14:57.500 when she was a 22-year-old

00:14:59.180 graduate student

00:15:00.340 at Wilfrid Laurier University.

00:15:03.540 She did not have

00:15:04.900 a public profile,

00:15:06.320 but she was targeted

00:15:08.360 by a diversity

00:15:10.200 and inclusion woke mob

00:15:13.320 because she dared to show

00:15:15.440 a short clip

00:15:17.040 of Jordan Peterson

00:15:18.480 to her graduate students

00:15:20.140 just to ask them

00:15:21.040 what they thought.

00:15:22.580 She was then harassed

00:15:24.400 by the anti-harassers.

00:15:27.000 There was an investigation

00:15:28.080 of her,

00:15:29.380 but she made 0.60

00:15:30.180 a very strategic decision

00:15:31.940 to record

00:15:33.020 her own interrogation

00:15:35.440 because, as we know,

00:15:37.460 if she hadn't recorded it,

00:15:38.780 no one would believe

00:15:39.720 what they did to her.

00:15:40.760 She turned the tables

00:15:42.640 on her inquisitors

00:15:43.940 and fought back.

00:15:45.000 Her name is Lindsay Shepard.

00:15:47.080 The book is called

00:15:47.740 Diversity and Exclusion, 0.99

00:15:49.060 and we're delighted

00:15:49.580 to interview her now.

00:15:51.380 Lindsay, great to see you again.

00:15:52.640 Congratulations on the new book.

00:15:55.060 Thank you.

00:15:55.840 Thanks for having me.

00:15:56.680 Well, it's our pleasure.

00:15:57.860 I'm so glad

00:15:58.600 you wrote this book.

00:15:59.720 I didn't know

00:16:00.580 if you were able

00:16:01.580 to tell the full story

00:16:03.220 because I'm aware,

00:16:04.920 and I'm delighted about this,

00:16:06.220 that you are actually

00:16:07.260 suing

00:16:08.260 Wilfrid Laurier

00:16:09.900 for blacklisting you,

00:16:11.720 for deplatforming you,

00:16:12.720 for smearing you

00:16:13.820 in a trumped up

00:16:14.980 sham investigation.

00:16:15.680 So is that lawsuit

00:16:16.680 still going on?

00:16:18.840 Yeah, so that lawsuit

00:16:19.800 was launched in 2018,

00:16:21.040 and there's also

00:16:23.760 a lawsuit in conjunction

00:16:25.240 with Jordan Peterson.

00:16:26.480 So he is suing

00:16:27.340 for defamation

00:16:28.760 because the professors

00:16:30.300 that you were referring to

00:16:31.660 that were in the disciplinary

00:16:33.460 meeting with me

00:16:34.600 telling me I created

00:16:35.860 a toxic environment

00:16:36.860 and all that,

00:16:37.840 they said Peterson

00:16:38.820 was a charlatan

00:16:40.060 and they compared him

00:16:41.200 to Hitler. 0.68

00:16:42.080 So he's suing

00:16:42.780 for defamation

00:16:43.560 concurrently,

00:16:45.840 and so the lawsuit

00:16:47.060 can't progress

00:16:47.880 until Jordan Peterson

00:16:49.400 is feeling a bit better.

00:16:51.040 Your viewers may know

00:16:51.860 he hasn't been

00:16:52.660 of the greatest health

00:16:53.620 lately.

00:16:54.520 So because these lawsuits

00:16:55.520 are all kind of

00:16:56.340 combined,

00:16:58.640 we're waiting

00:16:59.620 for that point.

00:17:00.800 Because I should add,

00:17:01.900 the university,

00:17:03.480 they're saying that

00:17:04.920 if Jordan Peterson

00:17:05.880 was indeed defamed,

00:17:07.640 it would be my fault

00:17:08.700 because I made a recording

00:17:11.160 of the defamation.

00:17:12.520 So there's a third-party

00:17:13.420 claim against me,

00:17:14.560 if that'll make sense.

00:17:16.040 I do understand it.

00:17:18.520 I'm delighted,

00:17:19.420 and you've got

00:17:19.780 a very serious lawyer,

00:17:20.780 if I'm not mistaken.

00:17:21.560 Is Howard Levitt

00:17:22.460 still your lawyer?

00:17:24.100 Yeah, he's great.

00:17:24.980 He's one of the top

00:17:25.860 legal minds in Canada,

00:17:27.200 so this is not

00:17:27.880 a rinky-dink lawsuit.

00:17:28.840 If I were Wilfrid Laurier

00:17:29.740 and if I saw an incoming

00:17:31.240 lawsuit from Howard Levitt,

00:17:32.560 I would be very worried.

00:17:35.020 And I think one of the reasons

00:17:36.900 they should be worried,

00:17:37.620 and I don't want to talk

00:17:38.520 about the lawsuit so much,

00:17:39.440 but it is,

00:17:40.460 it really covers

00:17:42.340 what your book is about.

00:17:44.320 You were put through

00:17:45.560 a sham process,

00:17:47.860 a fake trial,

00:17:48.640 a show trial,

00:17:49.780 like a struggle session

00:17:51.180 that they would have

00:17:51.900 in Maoist China.

00:17:53.360 For example,

00:17:54.760 you were told

00:17:55.500 that there were

00:17:56.100 one or more people

00:17:57.760 who had complained

00:17:58.980 about you,

00:18:00.140 and there was

00:18:01.200 all these complaints

00:18:02.400 that were allegedly said,

00:18:04.360 but it turned out

00:18:05.240 it was all made up.

00:18:06.740 It was just basically

00:18:07.680 a chance to bait you

00:18:10.000 and set you up.

00:18:11.360 It would be what

00:18:11.820 the Brits call

00:18:12.420 a stitch-up,

00:18:13.380 am I right?

00:18:15.180 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:16.240 And it's all documented

00:18:18.460 in this book,

00:18:19.640 so it was truly a pleasure

00:18:21.720 to get all that out there.

00:18:23.400 I bet.

00:18:24.020 Now, the book

00:18:24.540 has been out

00:18:25.120 for only about a week or so,

00:18:26.520 and I see it's getting

00:18:27.600 great ratings on Amazon,

00:18:29.740 which is excellent,

00:18:30.620 and I really look forward

00:18:32.700 to digging into it myself.

00:18:34.100 I feel like our side,

00:18:37.480 and I don't know

00:18:37.940 if you regard yourself

00:18:38.820 on my side,

00:18:39.760 but I regard myself

00:18:40.640 on your side,

00:18:42.040 because I think

00:18:42.700 you were victimized

00:18:43.720 and demonized,

00:18:45.580 and they shut down

00:18:48.800 your ability to debate,

00:18:50.500 and then they had

00:18:51.240 a fake process,

00:18:52.560 and then they smeared you,

00:18:54.040 but the difference is

00:18:55.240 you fought back,

00:18:55.900 and you made that

00:18:56.380 one very smart decision.

00:18:58.740 So I love the fact

00:18:59.820 that you're fighting back.

00:19:00.840 Is the book

00:19:01.560 part of your fight back,

00:19:02.940 or is it just to tell people

00:19:04.840 this is what's going on

00:19:05.960 on campus?

00:19:06.420 This is where you're

00:19:07.040 sending your kids

00:19:07.680 and grandkids.

00:19:08.840 This is what you're spending

00:19:09.860 10, 20, 30 grand a year

00:19:11.300 in university tuition for.

00:19:13.820 This is what it's like

00:19:15.080 these days.

00:19:17.200 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:17.920 So it's mostly a memoir,

00:19:19.720 but it's also,

00:19:20.760 it has elements

00:19:21.460 of a nonfiction book

00:19:22.680 that is explaining

00:19:23.760 what's going on

00:19:24.740 on campuses right now.

00:19:26.000 But one of my main

00:19:27.840 motivations was

00:19:28.940 just to document

00:19:29.980 everything that happened

00:19:31.340 in that case

00:19:32.640 from 2017 to 2018.

00:19:35.020 I just saw a shortage

00:19:36.380 of books that really

00:19:37.720 serve as case studies

00:19:39.380 of campus free speech issues.

00:19:41.880 And so I thought

00:19:42.640 this is a good chance

00:19:44.100 to tell a full story,

00:19:45.840 especially because

00:19:46.600 a lot of your viewers

00:19:47.560 may have followed,

00:19:48.820 you know,

00:19:49.280 the Laurier controversy

00:19:50.080 when it was in the news

00:19:51.360 in 2017.

00:19:52.840 But, you know,

00:19:53.740 there was,

00:19:54.240 even though at the end

00:19:55.460 the university apologized

00:19:56.620 and all of that,

00:19:58.180 there was still

00:19:59.380 almost another full year

00:20:00.900 of when I was still

00:20:02.100 at school

00:20:02.620 at Wilfrid Laurier University.

00:20:04.280 And there was so much

00:20:05.380 happening behind the scenes

00:20:06.740 that wasn't necessarily

00:20:08.900 newsworthy,

00:20:10.060 but it's still

00:20:10.700 really interesting.

00:20:12.400 And it shows

00:20:13.540 that gradual process

00:20:14.820 of being alienated

00:20:16.740 once you show

00:20:17.640 to have,

00:20:18.300 you know,

00:20:18.900 a different unpopular

00:20:19.800 viewpoint on something.

00:20:21.720 And so that story

00:20:23.140 is now out there.

00:20:23.980 You know,

00:20:25.120 am I correct to say

00:20:27.520 that before this

00:20:28.180 whole thing started,

00:20:28.920 you weren't particularly

00:20:30.040 a troublemaker?

00:20:32.140 You weren't

00:20:32.780 a public advocate.

00:20:34.140 You weren't

00:20:34.880 famous for

00:20:36.060 campaigning

00:20:37.220 or championing

00:20:39.140 things.

00:20:39.560 You were

00:20:40.480 a grad student

00:20:41.560 who was

00:20:42.260 in an interesting

00:20:43.440 debate

00:20:44.080 that this sort of

00:20:45.580 forced you

00:20:46.760 into the public eye.

00:20:47.620 Is that true

00:20:48.320 that this turned you

00:20:49.680 into an activist

00:20:50.400 or were you one

00:20:51.140 to begin with?

00:20:51.880 No,

00:20:53.760 as I write

00:20:54.540 on the blurb

00:20:55.560 of the book,

00:20:56.080 I went from going

00:20:56.880 from a nobody

00:20:58.080 to going viral.

00:20:59.280 So I had no

00:20:59.960 social media accounts.

00:21:01.540 I was not active

00:21:02.300 in that kind of sphere

00:21:03.380 at all.

00:21:04.420 And this book

00:21:06.660 tells the story

00:21:07.860 of being thrust

00:21:08.540 into those issues

00:21:09.600 and learning

00:21:10.700 about free speech

00:21:11.800 and political correctness,

00:21:13.860 those kinds of issues

00:21:14.560 really quickly

00:21:15.200 and immersing myself

00:21:16.800 in them

00:21:17.300 because I just

00:21:18.580 kind of found myself

00:21:19.560 in the middle

00:21:20.260 of something.

00:21:21.900 And at a time

00:21:23.320 when it was also

00:21:25.140 very culturally relevant,

00:21:28.040 which it kind of,

00:21:28.940 it still is.

00:21:29.840 I mean,

00:21:30.020 the pandemic

00:21:30.440 has taken over

00:21:31.160 the cultural relevancy,

00:21:32.440 but yeah,

00:21:33.860 it was just kind

00:21:34.460 of the right moment

00:21:35.240 where people

00:21:35.660 were paying attention

00:21:36.380 to things like

00:21:37.160 gender pronouns

00:21:38.180 and all that.

00:21:39.280 And I fell into it.

00:21:40.620 You know,

00:21:41.700 I think a lot of people

00:21:45.140 are liberal

00:21:47.660 or moderate

00:21:49.480 and then they get hit

00:21:51.400 by this woke mob

00:21:53.160 and they are either

00:21:53.980 crumbled

00:21:54.780 or they suddenly

00:21:56.540 rediscover

00:21:58.040 the importance

00:21:58.800 of free speech

00:21:59.440 and they look around

00:22:00.100 and they see

00:22:00.520 that the woke mob

00:22:01.200 is on the left.

00:22:02.560 You tell me

00:22:03.080 if I'm right or wrong here.

00:22:04.260 I'm trying to think back

00:22:05.400 to 2017, 2018

00:22:07.200 because we did cover

00:22:08.460 these stories

00:22:09.300 a little bit.

00:22:09.740 I remember we sent

00:22:10.600 a reporter

00:22:11.220 out to Wilfrid Laurier

00:22:14.420 and if I recall,

00:22:15.680 I think you were

00:22:16.120 a little hesitant

00:22:17.340 even to talk

00:22:18.080 to Rebel News

00:22:18.660 because if I'm not mistaken,

00:22:20.880 you probably

00:22:22.280 would have described

00:22:23.120 yourself as a liberal

00:22:25.040 or at least regular

00:22:26.260 and back then,

00:22:29.120 I think maybe

00:22:30.540 you hadn't fully realized

00:22:32.100 that the censors,

00:22:34.280 the limiters

00:22:34.980 of free speech

00:22:35.720 were increasingly

00:22:36.920 from the left

00:22:38.200 and that it was

00:22:39.260 conservatives

00:22:40.000 that were

00:22:40.600 on the free speech

00:22:41.520 side.

00:22:42.260 I mean,

00:22:42.620 I don't want

00:22:43.120 to mischaracterize you

00:22:45.160 but that's how

00:22:45.760 I sort of remember

00:22:46.760 your transformation.

00:22:48.340 You were

00:22:48.820 a little nervous

00:22:50.000 when we even said

00:22:50.900 what's your story

00:22:51.700 because

00:22:52.480 maybe you thought

00:22:54.860 that the war

00:22:57.040 against free speech

00:22:58.900 was even on the right

00:22:59.860 as opposed to,

00:23:00.420 I mean,

00:23:00.720 I'm not saying

00:23:01.140 there were no

00:23:01.620 right-wingers

00:23:02.320 who were against

00:23:02.720 free speech

00:23:03.240 but I seem

00:23:04.500 to recall

00:23:04.800 you being

00:23:05.000 a little bit

00:23:05.340 liberal.

00:23:07.800 Yeah,

00:23:08.080 I think,

00:23:08.860 I mean,

00:23:09.080 I was a pretty,

00:23:09.900 a person

00:23:11.060 who kept to myself

00:23:11.880 and I think

00:23:12.720 if you don't

00:23:13.760 vocalize

00:23:14.540 any kind

00:23:15.060 of non-unorthodox

00:23:16.760 opinions

00:23:17.140 that you have

00:23:17.940 or you don't

00:23:18.820 have any brush-ups

00:23:19.680 with political

00:23:20.440 correctness,

00:23:21.420 you can kind

00:23:21.960 of just go on

00:23:22.620 thinking there's

00:23:23.500 no problem

00:23:24.140 but I did

00:23:25.720 brush up against

00:23:26.600 it and I very

00:23:27.340 quickly learned

00:23:28.160 that there was

00:23:28.940 a problem.

00:23:30.500 Otherwise,

00:23:31.000 I think,

00:23:31.340 yeah,

00:23:31.500 people just

00:23:32.000 go on thinking

00:23:32.940 there's nothing

00:23:33.620 wrong because

00:23:34.860 they don't ever

00:23:35.560 vocalize

00:23:36.240 an unorthodox

00:23:36.980 opinion.

00:23:38.040 So you're right,

00:23:38.900 I remember

00:23:39.620 being hesitant

00:23:40.900 to speak to,

00:23:41.660 I think it was

00:23:42.040 David Menzies

00:23:42.740 at the free speech

00:23:43.760 rally at Wilfrid Laurier

00:23:44.720 just because

00:23:45.680 at the time

00:23:46.320 I was being

00:23:46.820 bombarded

00:23:47.520 with accusations

00:23:48.320 of,

00:23:49.400 you know,

00:23:49.740 I'm alt-right

00:23:50.640 and all these things

00:23:51.440 and people,

00:23:52.280 I remember a professor

00:23:53.320 at Laurier

00:23:54.080 was writing

00:23:55.180 how I'm going

00:23:56.540 to end up

00:23:57.020 working at

00:23:57.560 Rebel News

00:23:58.120 and they're

00:23:58.720 the only ones

00:23:59.300 who are going

00:23:59.600 to hire me.

00:24:00.720 I mean,

00:24:01.220 this is the things

00:24:01.860 that they say,

00:24:02.580 right?

00:24:03.260 Well,

00:24:03.460 you know,

00:24:03.920 it's funny

00:24:04.260 because,

00:24:04.600 I mean,

00:24:04.740 I'm joking around

00:24:05.320 and this is not

00:24:06.180 about us,

00:24:06.720 it's just me

00:24:07.640 remembering that

00:24:08.620 you were blindsided

00:24:10.400 by this.

00:24:10.840 I think you were

00:24:11.560 a regular person

00:24:12.880 who was blindsided

00:24:13.780 by this

00:24:14.280 and,

00:24:15.480 yeah,

00:24:15.760 I mean,

00:24:16.280 my question is

00:24:16.820 really not about us,

00:24:17.600 it's about how

00:24:18.400 someone who's thrust

00:24:19.920 into these cancel

00:24:20.740 culture wars

00:24:21.480 realizes that maybe

00:24:22.620 the threat

00:24:23.140 is surprisingly to them

00:24:24.900 from the left

00:24:25.400 but let me ask you this,

00:24:26.380 you talk about

00:24:26.960 reputation

00:24:27.600 and they said

00:24:28.140 only right-wing

00:24:29.280 will have you.

00:24:32.560 You were smeared

00:24:34.500 and a student

00:24:35.820 who's in grad school,

00:24:37.200 I didn't go to grad school

00:24:38.340 myself,

00:24:39.360 I imagine that

00:24:40.340 unless you're just

00:24:41.120 really passionately

00:24:42.120 interested in the subject

00:24:43.280 and really,

00:24:43.820 really,

00:24:44.080 really want to learn

00:24:44.680 more about it,

00:24:45.620 there is sort of a hope

00:24:46.740 that you would get a job

00:24:48.140 in academia.

00:24:48.920 I think that's what

00:24:49.740 graduate school

00:24:50.960 is about,

00:24:51.520 right?

00:24:51.740 So if you are blackened, 0.75

00:24:54.660 blacklisted,

00:24:55.560 blackballed 0.98

00:24:56.400 by academic bosses,

00:25:00.000 by deans and professors

00:25:01.440 as being a troublemaker

00:25:03.280 at best

00:25:04.200 and like a transphobe

00:25:06.640 or whatever at worst,

00:25:08.120 you're not going to get offers

00:25:09.820 to be an assistant professor

00:25:11.480 somewhere

00:25:12.000 or whatever

00:25:13.560 the next ladder

00:25:15.280 on the academic,

00:25:16.660 next rung

00:25:17.380 on the academic ladder is,

00:25:18.580 right?

00:25:18.720 So they really killed

00:25:20.100 any academic career

00:25:21.120 you could have.

00:25:23.360 Yeah,

00:25:23.900 yeah,

00:25:24.120 you're right

00:25:24.540 and the world

00:25:25.200 of Canadian academia,

00:25:26.880 the arts,

00:25:27.800 it's really quite small

00:25:28.920 and even if you do have

00:25:30.980 some professors

00:25:31.880 advocating for you,

00:25:33.040 which I did,

00:25:34.080 there were some,

00:25:35.160 you know,

00:25:35.480 pro-free speech professors

00:25:36.700 across the country

00:25:37.640 who are openly

00:25:38.400 supporting me,

00:25:40.360 still,

00:25:40.920 to get hired

00:25:41.700 in academia today,

00:25:43.380 you have to sit

00:25:44.060 through these,

00:25:44.880 you know,

00:25:45.160 you have like a panel

00:25:46.060 of people interviewing you

00:25:47.260 and their main concern

00:25:49.220 right now

00:25:49.600 is do you abide

00:25:51.820 by the tenets

00:25:52.520 of diversity

00:25:53.160 and inclusion

00:25:53.760 and what I did,

00:25:56.160 which is say

00:25:57.960 that Jordan Peterson's

00:25:59.800 view on compelled speech

00:26:01.060 and pronouns

00:26:01.540 was a valid viewpoint,

00:26:03.500 I'm seen as antithetical

00:26:05.360 to their mandate

00:26:06.580 of diversity

00:26:07.180 and inclusion.

00:26:08.360 So that's kind of,

00:26:09.840 that's why I'm a fan

00:26:11.440 of the title of my book,

00:26:12.640 Diversity and Exclusion. 0.91

00:26:14.280 Yeah,

00:26:14.680 well,

00:26:15.080 every kind of diversity

00:26:16.040 is allowed

00:26:16.540 except for diversity

00:26:17.320 of thought,

00:26:18.120 everyone's included

00:26:19.120 except for those

00:26:20.000 they cancel

00:26:20.860 and they exclude.

00:26:21.700 I think it's a great title also.

00:26:23.260 You know,

00:26:23.460 you made me think of

00:26:24.400 Peter Thiel,

00:26:26.640 the great tech entrepreneur,

00:26:29.220 libertarian thinker.

00:26:31.600 He is famous

00:26:33.820 for a job interview question

00:26:36.020 that he would put to people

00:26:37.600 and I don't know

00:26:38.000 if you've ever heard it

00:26:38.900 but I've got it

00:26:40.260 on my screen here.

00:26:40.940 it's what important truth

00:26:43.700 do very few people

00:26:46.020 agree with you on?

00:26:49.100 Or another way of saying that

00:26:50.640 is what is a heretical view

00:26:52.060 that you have?

00:26:53.520 And he liked to ask that

00:26:55.720 not so much because he

00:26:56.980 wanted to know

00:26:58.600 the particular answer

00:26:59.720 but he wanted to know

00:27:01.120 if you could

00:27:01.880 answer that question

00:27:03.800 if there's anything

00:27:05.040 in your life

00:27:05.680 you've ever done

00:27:06.500 to be a dissenter

00:27:08.200 a disruptor

00:27:09.700 because most people

00:27:11.260 would say

00:27:11.800 I have never

00:27:12.760 been a heretic

00:27:14.320 I've never dissented

00:27:15.720 I've never made

00:27:17.140 a ripple

00:27:17.660 or a wave

00:27:19.100 please don't

00:27:20.500 call me an outsider.

00:27:22.220 That's what I love

00:27:23.080 about the question.

00:27:24.140 I don't even think

00:27:24.700 he really cared

00:27:25.200 what the answer was

00:27:25.880 he just wanted to know

00:27:26.780 do you have the courage

00:27:28.000 to swim against the current?

00:27:30.300 What do you think of that?

00:27:32.260 Yeah, that's awesome

00:27:33.340 and I really learned

00:27:35.340 throughout the controversy

00:27:36.240 that I like being around

00:27:38.560 people who have

00:27:39.460 you know

00:27:40.020 been through

00:27:40.660 controversies themselves

00:27:41.960 who have had

00:27:43.520 false accusations

00:27:44.440 or anonymous complaints

00:27:46.440 put against them

00:27:47.180 because you do

00:27:48.580 gain a certain

00:27:49.580 understanding of the world

00:27:51.280 once you've been

00:27:52.340 put through that

00:27:53.140 whereas I think

00:27:54.420 people who haven't

00:27:55.540 rubbed up against it

00:27:56.540 they just

00:27:57.000 they don't have

00:27:58.100 that insight.

00:27:59.500 We're talking

00:28:00.420 with Lindsay Shepard

00:28:01.620 of course

00:28:02.120 the hero

00:28:02.720 of Wilfrid Laurier University

00:28:04.340 who stood up

00:28:04.920 to the woke mob

00:28:05.700 very strategically

00:28:06.920 recorded

00:28:07.600 their sham investigation

00:28:08.600 of her

00:28:09.040 her new book

00:28:09.560 is called

00:28:09.980 Diversity and Exclusion 0.99

00:28:12.460 Confronting the Campus

00:28:13.660 Free Speech Crisis

00:28:15.100 we'll have a link

00:28:15.880 to it under this video

00:28:17.100 well let me put

00:28:18.300 the teal question

00:28:19.020 to you

00:28:19.580 and maybe I know

00:28:20.800 the answer

00:28:21.380 what important truth

00:28:23.120 do very few people

00:28:24.220 agree with

00:28:24.800 you on?

00:28:25.760 well so there's one part

00:28:31.400 in my book

00:28:31.980 where I talk about

00:28:33.860 who I was

00:28:34.900 before the Laurier

00:28:35.660 controversy

00:28:36.160 and I say that

00:28:37.720 let's say I had

00:28:38.580 been approached

00:28:39.860 on the street

00:28:40.700 and I'm kind of

00:28:42.020 like what the rebel

00:28:42.680 does sometimes

00:28:43.240 like streeters

00:28:43.920 approaching random

00:28:44.980 people

00:28:45.340 and if you would

00:28:46.580 ask me

00:28:47.160 are trans women

00:28:48.220 women 1.00

00:28:48.640 I probably just

00:28:49.980 would have said

00:28:50.540 yeah sure

00:28:51.640 whatever

00:28:52.760 and now

00:28:55.680 after having

00:28:56.860 learned about

00:28:57.440 those issues

00:28:58.180 I would say

00:28:59.760 no

00:29:00.860 that's not

00:29:02.000 correct

00:29:02.640 trans women

00:29:03.760 are trans women

00:29:04.600 and I'm not sure

00:29:07.060 how many

00:29:08.320 if that's an

00:29:09.160 unpopular opinion

00:29:09.940 or a popular opinion

00:29:11.300 but I think

00:29:12.740 a lot of people

00:29:13.680 are just too scared

00:29:14.660 of being perceived

00:29:16.860 as mean

00:29:17.460 that's probably

00:29:18.100 where my previous

00:29:19.180 view is coming from

00:29:20.320 yeah you didn't

00:29:21.920 want to be mean

00:29:22.620 yep

00:29:24.500 and that's a nice

00:29:25.540 place to come from

00:29:26.440 to be nice to

00:29:27.120 everybody

00:29:27.680 not to be mean

00:29:29.160 to everybody

00:29:29.800 but often

00:29:31.300 you know

00:29:32.100 that may be

00:29:32.820 the intention

00:29:33.380 but the outcome

00:29:34.020 in the case

00:29:34.660 of trans women

00:29:35.360 for example

00:29:35.920 okay

00:29:36.560 have you just

00:29:37.380 destroyed

00:29:38.320 all girls

00:29:39.640 sports

00:29:40.280 for example

00:29:41.460 because now

00:29:42.200 trans women

00:29:42.900 can compete

00:29:43.340 with women

00:29:43.740 I think

00:29:45.100 that's a

00:29:46.160 very interesting

00:29:47.200 answer to the

00:29:47.840 Peter Thiel question

00:29:48.860 because

00:29:49.580 I don't know

00:29:51.120 I think most

00:29:51.960 people would say

00:29:53.000 trans women

00:29:54.200 are real women 1.00

00:29:55.020 just to avoid

00:29:56.400 being mobbed

00:29:57.660 but secretly

00:29:58.840 in their heart

00:29:59.520 they would say

00:30:00.200 the opposite

00:30:01.800 I mean

00:30:02.180 they would hold

00:30:02.940 two different views

00:30:04.560 one for public

00:30:05.280 consumption

00:30:05.780 one for private

00:30:06.580 consumption

00:30:07.020 like in the former

00:30:07.920 Soviet Union

00:30:08.640 you knew what to say

00:30:09.760 to people you didn't

00:30:11.420 know and trust

00:30:12.160 and then you knew

00:30:12.620 what you could say

00:30:13.540 at home

00:30:14.740 within the privacy

00:30:15.980 of your own house

00:30:16.620 let me ask you this

00:30:17.620 your story

00:30:19.520 I mean

00:30:19.860 it was well covered

00:30:21.000 in the National Post

00:30:21.980 and we did our best

00:30:23.140 to cover it too

00:30:23.920 and you were a great

00:30:25.060 spokesperson

00:30:25.520 yourself

00:30:26.260 I'm glad

00:30:27.920 you've lawyered up

00:30:28.640 and I understand

00:30:29.260 why the lawsuit

00:30:29.860 sort of paused

00:30:30.580 this book

00:30:31.640 is an excellent

00:30:32.420 expression

00:30:34.460 of all these things

00:30:35.660 but what is your

00:30:37.420 proposal

00:30:38.200 or plan

00:30:38.880 if you had

00:30:39.400 one piece of advice

00:30:40.500 for how to fix things

00:30:41.820 what would it be

00:30:43.160 yeah

00:30:45.300 in my book

00:30:46.320 I say

00:30:48.060 straight up

00:30:48.740 that we need

00:30:49.280 to close

00:30:49.860 all diversity

00:30:50.760 and inclusion

00:30:51.220 offices

00:30:51.700 at universities

00:30:52.600 and that's going

00:30:53.700 to be

00:30:53.980 what I see

00:30:54.540 as the most

00:30:55.020 important step

00:30:55.840 to making

00:30:57.460 universities

00:30:58.320 bastions of

00:30:59.260 free thought

00:30:59.760 again

00:31:00.180 because those

00:31:01.120 offices

00:31:01.580 while they sound

00:31:03.320 nice

00:31:03.940 you know

00:31:04.780 you want to

00:31:05.180 include everyone

00:31:05.980 inclusion

00:31:06.920 what they are

00:31:08.320 really in the

00:31:08.900 business of

00:31:09.820 is enforcing

00:31:10.900 ideological

00:31:11.900 conformity

00:31:12.700 and making sure

00:31:13.520 everyone on campus

00:31:14.400 has the correct

00:31:15.700 viewpoints on

00:31:16.420 everything

00:31:16.820 that's what

00:31:17.920 they're doing

00:31:18.360 and they get

00:31:18.860 six figure salaries

00:31:19.940 the heads of

00:31:20.500 these offices

00:31:21.120 and the students

00:31:22.640 pay for it

00:31:23.340 and it's just

00:31:24.420 so ridiculous

00:31:25.120 they need to

00:31:25.960 all be shut down

00:31:27.320 so that's

00:31:29.060 my suggestion

00:31:29.920 I think that's

00:31:32.460 spot on

00:31:33.440 how likely

00:31:34.320 is that to happen

00:31:35.160 is there any

00:31:36.040 school in the

00:31:36.920 country

00:31:37.400 that doesn't

00:31:39.440 have one of

00:31:40.100 these offices

00:31:40.820 I mean I'm sure

00:31:41.620 even community

00:31:43.040 colleges

00:31:43.620 where they

00:31:44.740 would teach

00:31:45.420 something more

00:31:46.020 you know

00:31:46.560 practical

00:31:47.060 to a different

00:31:48.040 type of student

00:31:49.080 like I

00:31:49.420 there's some

00:31:51.000 universities

00:31:51.480 that are so

00:31:52.160 abstract

00:31:52.920 in the

00:31:53.300 humanities

00:31:53.840 and you know

00:31:54.900 peace and gender

00:31:56.020 studies

00:31:56.580 vegetarian studies

00:31:57.840 whatever

00:31:58.220 but I bet even

00:31:59.620 in trade schools

00:32:00.540 where you're

00:32:00.920 learning how to

00:32:01.480 you know

00:32:02.100 get your

00:32:02.480 welding ticket

00:32:03.240 they probably

00:32:04.040 have these

00:32:04.540 offices

00:32:04.940 is there any

00:32:06.220 chance

00:32:06.900 of pulling out

00:32:08.060 this weed by

00:32:08.820 the root

00:32:09.320 in the liberal

00:32:10.620 arts universities

00:32:11.420 because to me

00:32:11.940 that sounds like

00:32:12.620 such a

00:32:13.300 impossible

00:32:14.880 prescription

00:32:16.160 I agree with

00:32:16.800 you we need

00:32:17.200 to do that

00:32:17.560 but really

00:32:18.220 is that even

00:32:19.280 possible

00:32:19.840 these days

00:32:20.460 I mean

00:32:22.460 these offices

00:32:23.740 are only

00:32:24.200 expanding

00:32:24.780 they're expanding

00:32:26.000 into the

00:32:27.140 private sector

00:32:27.780 too

00:32:28.160 I mean

00:32:28.920 not every

00:32:30.000 university

00:32:30.420 has a

00:32:30.940 diversity

00:32:31.320 office

00:32:31.880 it's only

00:32:33.160 if you

00:32:33.420 have enough

00:32:33.820 money

00:32:34.200 frankly

00:32:34.660 the smaller

00:32:35.200 universities

00:32:35.700 just kind

00:32:36.120 of have

00:32:36.280 a web

00:32:36.640 page

00:32:37.100 saying how

00:32:38.600 they abide

00:32:39.280 by the

00:32:39.560 tenets of

00:32:39.940 diversity

00:32:40.300 and inclusion

00:32:40.780 but you

00:32:42.120 know

00:32:42.240 once they

00:32:42.580 get enough

00:32:43.040 funding

00:32:43.820 they open

00:32:44.720 one

00:32:45.060 often

00:32:45.760 I think

00:32:46.580 it's only

00:32:46.860 the University

00:32:47.360 of Prince

00:32:47.780 Edward

00:32:47.960 Island

00:32:48.260 where

00:32:48.740 I think

00:32:49.620 they had

00:32:50.040 to shut 0.69

00:32:50.340 it down

00:32:50.660 for lack

00:32:51.140 of funding

00:32:51.500 like many

00:32:51.920 many years

00:32:52.400 ago

00:32:52.700 which is

00:32:53.340 kind of

00:32:53.600 interesting

00:32:53.900 but yeah

00:32:55.900 it's

00:32:56.240 I mean

00:32:56.600 it's

00:32:56.780 they're only

00:32:57.180 expanding

00:32:57.760 I think

00:32:58.900 people who

00:32:59.460 do

00:32:59.900 students

00:33:00.600 who do

00:33:01.080 arts

00:33:01.380 degrees

00:33:01.720 they see

00:33:03.040 or even

00:33:03.560 business

00:33:04.260 or STEM

00:33:06.020 because you

00:33:06.480 know there's

00:33:06.760 this whole

00:33:07.040 women in 0.62

00:33:07.520 STEM

00:33:07.860 BIPOC

00:33:09.820 STEM

00:33:16.860 that's

00:33:17.360 what does

00:33:18.240 that stand

00:33:18.620 for

00:33:18.820 black

00:33:19.140 indigenous

00:33:19.600 people

00:33:20.040 of color

00:33:20.380 it's

00:33:20.760 this whole

00:33:21.320 language

00:33:21.880 and vocabulary

00:33:22.720 that if

00:33:23.980 that I think

00:33:24.920 most I don't

00:33:25.600 think most

00:33:25.980 people know

00:33:26.360 what BIPOC 0.66

00:33:27.140 means on

00:33:28.360 on the street

00:33:29.120 but there's

00:33:29.480 this whole

00:33:30.100 language

00:33:31.540 and like

00:33:32.640 an insider

00:33:33.440 speak

00:33:34.180 and if you

00:33:34.580 don't

00:33:35.360 I mean I

00:33:35.720 often think

00:33:36.240 about this

00:33:36.680 it used

00:33:37.020 to be

00:33:37.300 the word

00:33:37.640 Indian

00:33:38.060 you know

00:33:38.800 the Indian

00:33:39.240 Act

00:33:39.720 and Indian

00:33:40.400 Reserve

00:33:40.740 these are

00:33:41.080 legal words

00:33:41.580 status

00:33:41.960 Indian

00:33:42.360 Indian

00:33:43.120 agent

00:33:43.520 but then

00:33:44.260 that was

00:33:44.700 racist

00:33:45.020 so it

00:33:45.360 became

00:33:45.800 aboriginal 0.61

00:33:46.980 then it

00:33:47.960 became

00:33:48.200 first nations

00:33:48.960 then it

00:33:49.280 became

00:33:49.520 indigenous

00:33:49.960 and if

00:33:50.340 you're

00:33:50.480 not

00:33:50.700 keeping

00:33:51.300 up

00:33:51.800 with the

00:33:52.420 latest

00:33:52.680 phrase

00:33:53.160 you are

00:33:53.600 obviously

00:33:54.600 racist

00:33:55.480 even if

00:33:56.360 you're

00:33:56.520 not

00:33:56.880 I think

00:33:57.760 they have

00:33:58.200 to continuously

00:33:58.920 ratchet

00:33:59.580 things forward

00:34:00.600 to show

00:34:01.720 that they

00:34:02.140 are one

00:34:02.560 step ahead

00:34:03.060 of you

00:34:03.680 so they

00:34:04.480 can sneer

00:34:05.040 at you

00:34:05.460 investigate

00:34:06.000 you

00:34:06.460 punish

00:34:06.820 you

00:34:07.200 I think

00:34:08.440 it's

00:34:08.680 mission

00:34:09.000 creep

00:34:09.440 and

00:34:10.560 you know

00:34:11.680 I think

00:34:11.920 the whole

00:34:12.280 trans

00:34:12.720 movement

00:34:13.120 is

00:34:13.460 mission

00:34:13.760 creep

00:34:14.020 I mean

00:34:14.260 you have

00:34:14.580 complete

00:34:15.040 equality

00:34:15.600 under the

00:34:16.500 law

00:34:16.840 for

00:34:17.600 gay 0.99

00:34:18.780 people

00:34:19.140 gay 0.99

00:34:19.360 marriage

00:34:19.780 gay 0.99

00:34:19.980 adoption

00:34:20.320 it's

00:34:20.580 all

00:34:20.940 every

00:34:21.820 single

00:34:22.240 box

00:34:22.680 in their

00:34:22.980 to-do

00:34:23.300 list

00:34:23.560 is

00:34:23.740 checked

00:34:24.200 so to

00:34:25.460 justify

00:34:25.900 the

00:34:26.180 perpetual

00:34:26.820 campaign

00:34:27.320 they move

00:34:27.640 to

00:34:27.780 trans

00:34:28.220 issues

00:34:28.500 that's

00:34:28.780 my

00:34:28.980 thinking

00:34:29.260 what do

00:34:29.540 you

00:34:29.660 think

00:34:29.960 yeah

00:34:31.500 well even

00:34:31.820 what you're

00:34:32.220 saying

00:34:32.480 about

00:34:32.780 the

00:34:33.120 evolution

00:34:33.540 of

00:34:33.880 the

00:34:34.680 word

00:34:34.940 that we

00:34:35.380 now

00:34:35.560 say

00:34:35.820 indigenous

00:34:36.200 if

00:34:37.220 you

00:34:37.400 write

00:34:37.640 it

00:34:37.760 down

00:34:37.960 you

00:34:38.120 have

00:34:38.240 to

00:34:38.360 capitalize

00:34:38.760 the

00:34:39.060 I

00:34:39.300 same

00:34:39.980 with

00:34:40.120 the

00:34:43.120 black

00:34:43.420 in order

00:34:44.480 to be

00:34:44.840 proper

00:34:45.220 and so

00:34:45.920 it's

00:34:46.440 like what

00:34:46.720 you're

00:34:46.880 saying

00:34:47.220 but

00:34:48.320 I see

00:34:49.300 it more

00:34:49.600 as you

00:34:50.020 have to

00:34:50.300 keep up

00:34:50.760 with these

00:34:51.200 these trends

00:34:51.920 and show

00:34:52.440 that you're

00:34:52.740 very in

00:34:53.180 the know

00:34:53.560 show that

00:34:54.040 you're paying

00:34:54.380 attention to

00:34:55.040 social justice

00:34:55.660 issues

00:34:56.100 and I

00:34:58.080 I think

00:34:58.940 social justice

00:34:59.940 is very

00:35:00.520 infectious

00:35:01.980 in a bad

00:35:02.560 way

00:35:02.780 but

00:35:04.880 and I mean

00:35:05.760 it's kind

00:35:06.060 of like a

00:35:06.360 cancer

00:35:06.660 but I

00:35:08.980 still am

00:35:09.400 kind of in

00:35:09.980 the know

00:35:10.260 about those

00:35:10.760 terms

00:35:11.220 yeah

00:35:13.240 but when

00:35:13.600 someone says

00:35:14.260 for example

00:35:14.760 like I had

00:35:15.260 a boss

00:35:15.620 once who

00:35:16.160 who called

00:35:17.100 someone an

00:35:17.780 oriental

00:35:18.740 gentleman

00:35:19.400 just in

00:35:20.100 reference to

00:35:20.640 an Asian

00:35:20.980 person

00:35:21.400 and yeah

00:35:22.400 if a

00:35:22.760 if a

00:35:23.040 woke

00:35:23.340 person

00:35:23.780 heard that

00:35:24.280 they think

00:35:24.640 oh that's

00:35:25.200 racist

00:35:25.700 language

00:35:26.280 but really

00:35:27.040 what it

00:35:27.380 is

00:35:27.600 it's

00:35:27.920 it's

00:35:28.360 someone

00:35:28.620 from a

00:35:29.100 different

00:35:29.300 generation

00:35:29.740 it's

00:35:29.920 someone

00:35:30.040 older

00:35:30.360 and that's

00:35:31.040 the language

00:35:31.440 they're

00:35:31.640 used to

00:35:32.000 and they're

00:35:32.200 not

00:35:32.380 keeping

00:35:32.600 up with

00:35:33.480 social

00:35:33.840 justice

00:35:34.260 language

00:35:34.760 that's

00:35:35.480 all it

00:35:35.720 is

00:35:36.080 yeah

00:35:37.220 and I

00:35:37.620 think

00:35:37.820 it's

00:35:38.540 constant

00:35:39.180 attempts

00:35:39.640 to show

00:35:40.120 you're

00:35:40.320 more

00:35:40.480 virtuous

00:35:40.900 than the

00:35:41.400 next

00:35:41.640 guy

00:35:41.880 it's

00:35:42.120 like

00:35:42.360 oh you're

00:35:43.160 only wearing

00:35:43.680 one mask

00:35:44.440 I'm wearing

00:35:45.040 two masks

00:35:45.820 what are you

00:35:46.220 some grandma

00:35:46.860 killer

00:35:47.240 oh you're

00:35:47.960 a two

00:35:48.240 masker

00:35:48.680 well me

00:35:49.660 and the

00:35:49.880 three mask

00:35:50.380 kids are

00:35:50.940 better than

00:35:51.260 you

00:35:51.380 I think

00:35:51.660 it's

00:35:51.900 this arms

00:35:52.820 race

00:35:53.180 of whoever

00:35:53.740 can be

00:35:54.700 one degree

00:35:55.340 more woke

00:35:55.960 than the

00:35:56.240 next guy

00:35:56.680 completely

00:35:57.780 disconnected

00:35:59.020 from reality

00:36:00.080 I mean I

00:36:00.440 know this

00:36:00.760 word

00:36:01.080 I don't

00:36:01.800 even know

00:36:01.980 how to

00:36:02.200 say it

00:36:02.540 Latinx

00:36:03.740 some people

00:36:05.520 say Latinx

00:36:06.380 I think

00:36:06.660 it's Latinx

00:36:07.640 it's a way

00:36:08.540 of saying

00:36:08.880 Latino

00:36:09.420 and Latina

00:36:10.260 and I've

00:36:11.800 seen polls

00:36:12.340 showing that

00:36:12.840 like 90%

00:36:14.060 of Latinos

00:36:16.240 hate that

00:36:17.760 phrase

00:36:18.140 it's basically

00:36:18.800 used by

00:36:19.320 white

00:36:19.820 liberal

00:36:20.540 academics

00:36:21.200 to create

00:36:21.920 some new

00:36:22.480 class of

00:36:23.140 diversity

00:36:23.760 it's just

00:36:24.900 an industry

00:36:26.000 unto itself

00:36:26.820 it reminds me

00:36:27.640 of the old

00:36:27.880 human rights

00:36:28.380 commissions

00:36:28.800 that I used

00:36:29.260 to fight

00:36:29.640 with

00:36:29.920 their mandate

00:36:31.560 is to

00:36:32.100 find

00:36:32.780 hate

00:36:34.060 so even

00:36:35.300 if they're

00:36:35.660 in a peaceful

00:36:36.740 happy

00:36:37.300 society

00:36:38.120 they have

00:36:39.400 to find

00:36:39.960 hate

00:36:40.480 to justify

00:36:41.960 their budgets

00:36:42.580 justify

00:36:43.120 their jobs

00:36:43.740 justify

00:36:44.220 their moral

00:36:44.840 authority

00:36:45.300 so they

00:36:46.220 will find

00:36:46.880 it whether

00:36:47.280 it exists

00:36:47.780 or not

00:36:48.160 I think

00:36:48.620 that these

00:36:48.940 diversity

00:36:49.300 exclusion

00:36:49.860 committees

00:36:50.500 they will

00:36:51.860 find

00:36:52.500 racism

00:36:53.740 whether it

00:36:54.300 exists

00:36:54.640 or not

00:36:55.080 just so

00:36:56.140 they can

00:36:56.560 justify

00:36:57.080 their whole

00:36:58.400 world view

00:36:59.220 and their

00:36:59.600 job

00:37:00.220 oh exactly

00:37:02.660 there's

00:37:03.100 one part

00:37:03.940 in the

00:37:04.200 book

00:37:04.440 where I

00:37:04.940 describe

00:37:05.440 there's

00:37:06.580 kind of

00:37:06.820 a whole

00:37:07.100 back story

00:37:07.700 but in

00:37:08.100 short

00:37:08.440 there were

00:37:09.680 posters

00:37:10.020 around

00:37:10.340 campus

00:37:10.840 that said

00:37:11.400 black

00:37:11.980 lives

00:37:12.240 matter

00:37:12.500 indigenous

00:37:12.860 lives

00:37:13.280 matter

00:37:13.620 migrant

00:37:14.180 lives

00:37:14.520 matter

00:37:14.860 all of

00:37:15.620 these

00:37:15.800 lives

00:37:16.320 matter

00:37:16.680 right

00:37:16.940 and

00:37:17.860 there

00:37:18.060 was

00:37:18.180 one

00:37:18.400 poster

00:37:18.780 where

00:37:19.060 someone

00:37:19.340 had

00:37:19.560 penned

00:37:20.200 white

00:37:20.460 life

00:37:20.720 white

00:37:21.160 lives

00:37:21.480 matter

00:37:21.800 in

00:37:22.640 addition

00:37:22.920 to

00:37:23.100 all

00:37:23.300 the

00:37:23.400 other

00:37:23.560 lives

00:37:24.040 because

00:37:24.560 white

00:37:24.800 lives

00:37:25.060 matter

00:37:25.380 they were

00:37:26.380 not on

00:37:26.640 the

00:37:26.720 original

00:37:27.000 poster

00:37:27.440 and

00:37:28.540 a

00:37:29.220 student

00:37:29.680 ripped

00:37:30.360 that

00:37:30.580 poster

00:37:30.840 down

00:37:31.180 and

00:37:31.340 took

00:37:31.500 it

00:37:31.600 to

00:37:31.700 the

00:37:31.820 diversity

00:37:32.200 office

00:37:32.740 and

00:37:32.960 said

00:37:33.180 it

00:37:33.300 was

00:37:33.440 racism

00:37:33.840 well

00:37:35.880 and I'm

00:37:36.220 sure

00:37:36.420 they

00:37:36.680 thought

00:37:37.080 it

00:37:37.220 was

00:37:37.700 listen

00:37:38.560 it's

00:37:39.100 great

00:37:39.540 that

00:37:39.780 you've

00:37:40.000 got

00:37:40.140 this

00:37:40.380 book

00:37:40.680 out

00:37:41.060 I

00:37:41.300 look

00:37:41.500 forward

00:37:41.800 to

00:37:42.000 digging

00:37:42.220 into

00:37:42.580 it

00:37:42.720 I

00:37:42.780 would

00:37:42.900 encourage

00:37:43.380 our

00:37:44.280 viewers

00:37:44.980 to

00:37:45.240 read

00:37:45.500 it

00:37:45.700 the

00:37:45.940 book

00:37:46.120 is

00:37:46.240 called

00:37:46.440 diversity

00:37:46.820 and

00:37:47.060 exclusion

00:37:47.360 confronting

00:37:47.940 the

00:37:48.140 campus

00:37:48.400 free

00:37:48.680 speech

00:37:48.980 crisis

00:37:49.360 we'll

00:37:49.940 have

00:37:50.060 a

00:37:50.200 link

00:37:50.420 to

00:37:50.840 the

00:37:51.040 Amazon

00:37:51.320 page

00:37:51.700 below

00:37:51.920 this

00:37:52.140 video

00:37:52.440 I

00:37:53.260 want

00:37:53.440 to

00:37:53.540 read

00:37:53.680 it

00:37:53.780 because

00:37:54.000 it's

00:37:54.160 very

00:37:54.360 interesting

00:37:54.820 and

00:37:55.020 you

00:37:55.140 are

00:37:55.260 the

00:37:55.400 pointing

00:37:55.720 edge

00:37:56.220 of

00:37:56.500 the

00:37:56.740 spear

00:37:57.140 in

00:37:57.800 this

00:37:57.960 fight

00:37:58.420 but

00:37:59.060 more

00:37:59.280 than

00:37:59.440 that

00:37:59.740 anyone

00:38:00.180 who

00:38:00.480 writes

00:38:00.780 a

00:38:00.960 book

00:38:01.180 that

00:38:01.460 descents

00:38:01.980 from

00:38:02.260 the

00:38:02.520 woke

00:38:03.500 mindset

00:38:05.280 I

00:38:06.120 think

00:38:06.380 it

00:38:06.900 behooves

00:38:07.480 us

00:38:07.720 to

00:38:07.920 buy

00:38:08.220 that

00:38:08.480 book

00:38:08.700 just

00:38:08.920 out

00:38:09.060 of

00:38:09.180 moral

00:38:09.400 support

00:38:09.720 I

00:38:09.840 want

00:38:10.020 to

00:38:10.120 buy

00:38:10.260 it

00:38:10.380 to

00:38:10.500 read

00:38:10.780 it

00:38:11.020 but

00:38:11.760 I

00:38:11.900 think

00:38:12.060 we

00:38:12.180 have

00:38:12.360 to

00:38:12.480 buy

00:38:12.660 it

00:38:12.800 to

00:38:12.920 support

00:38:13.400 it

00:38:13.640 not

00:38:14.480 just

00:38:14.680 to

00:38:14.840 support

00:38:15.180 you

00:38:15.580 but

00:38:16.300 also

00:38:16.560 to

00:38:16.740 show

00:38:16.940 the

00:38:17.100 world

00:38:17.400 that

00:38:18.120 there

00:38:18.280 is

00:38:18.400 a

00:38:18.520 demand

00:38:18.860 for

00:38:19.060 the

00:38:19.180 conservative

00:38:19.560 point

00:38:19.800 of

00:38:19.900 view

00:38:19.980 and

00:38:20.100 I

00:38:20.240 want

00:38:20.500 your

00:38:20.720 book

00:38:21.060 to

00:38:21.660 become

00:38:21.920 the

00:38:22.080 number

00:38:22.260 one

00:38:22.520 bestseller

00:38:22.980 on

00:38:23.200 Amazon

00:38:23.480 so

00:38:23.800 the

00:38:23.960 whole

00:38:24.140 world

00:38:24.420 knows

00:38:24.980 that

00:38:26.240 there

00:38:26.440 is

00:38:26.600 another

00:38:26.840 side

00:38:27.180 of

00:38:27.280 the

00:38:27.400 story

00:38:27.760 and

00:38:28.100 that

00:38:28.240 there

00:38:28.380 is

00:38:28.500 a

00:38:28.620 public

00:38:28.880 interest

00:38:29.360 in

00:38:29.580 it

00:38:29.740 and

00:38:30.440 maybe

00:38:30.960 that

00:38:31.780 Peter

00:38:32.080 Teel

00:38:32.320 question

00:38:32.740 that

00:38:32.920 you

00:38:33.040 answered

00:38:33.440 maybe

00:38:33.840 the

00:38:35.260 emperor

00:38:35.600 has

00:38:35.900 no

00:38:36.100 clothes

00:38:36.420 and

00:38:36.540 the

00:38:36.660 number

00:38:36.840 of

00:38:36.980 people

00:38:45.180 I

00:38:45.400 think

00:38:45.520 it

00:38:45.640 is

00:38:45.660 a

00:38:45.760 very

00:38:45.900 important

00:38:46.260 book

00:38:46.520 and

00:38:46.940 I'm

00:38:47.060 delighted

00:38:47.340 to

00:38:47.500 have

00:38:47.620 you

00:38:47.720 on

00:38:47.840 the

00:38:47.960 show

00:38:48.160 for

00:38:48.380 today

00:38:48.660 so

00:38:48.840 thank

00:38:49.140 you

00:38:49.340 and

00:38:49.780 good

00:38:49.920 luck

00:38:50.080 to

00:38:50.220 you

00:38:50.500 thanks

00:38:51.820 so

00:38:51.980 much

00:38:52.160 Ezra

00:38:52.420 well

00:38:52.940 it's

00:38:53.040 great

00:38:53.200 to

00:38:53.340 see

00:38:53.520 you

00:38:53.660 again

00:38:53.840 there

00:38:54.000 you

00:38:54.100 have

00:38:54.280 it

00:38:54.400 Lindsay

00:38:54.600 Shepard

00:38:55.080 the

00:38:55.880 hero

00:38:56.220 of

00:38:56.720 the

00:38:56.840 great

00:38:57.060 battle

00:38:57.400 at

00:38:57.600 Wilfrid

00:38:58.140 Laurier

00:38:58.420 University

00:38:59.040 and

00:38:59.220 the

00:38:59.320 book

00:38:59.480 is

00:38:59.620 called

00:38:59.800 Diversity

00:39:00.300 and

00:39:01.120 Exclusion

00:39:01.640 stay

00:39:01.960 with us

00:39:02.320 more

00:39:02.520 ahead

00:39:02.800 hey

00:39:14.840 welcome

00:39:15.020 back

00:39:15.200 on my

00:39:15.400 show

00:39:15.540 last

00:39:15.800 night

00:39:16.020 Calvin

00:39:16.400 writes

00:39:16.860 I

00:39:17.480 phoned

00:39:17.640 the

00:39:17.780 Parkland

00:39:18.140 County

00:39:18.440 RCMP

00:39:18.940 complaint

00:39:19.480 line

00:39:19.780 and

00:39:20.220 blasted

00:39:20.620 them

00:39:20.740 for

00:39:20.880 their

00:39:21.040 fence

00:39:21.380 and

00:39:21.580 the

00:39:21.700 use

00:39:21.920 of

00:39:22.040 my

00:39:22.200 tax

00:39:22.540 money

00:39:22.780 to

00:39:22.940 do

00:39:23.100 it

00:39:23.300 and

00:39:24.900 that

00:39:25.340 will

00:39:25.520 just

00:39:25.740 go

00:39:25.940 straight 0.70

00:39:26.520 into

00:39:26.840 the

00:39:27.000 garbage

00:39:27.280 pile

00:39:27.640 of

00:39:27.800 the

00:39:27.880 delete

00:39:28.140 pile

00:39:28.440 they

00:39:28.660 don't

00:39:28.920 care

00:39:29.260 Jack

00:39:30.600 writes

00:39:30.960 silence

00:39:32.060 is

00:39:32.280 consent

00:39:32.720 the

00:39:32.880 reason

00:39:33.100 that

00:39:33.260 other

00:39:33.460 churches

00:39:33.780 do

00:39:33.960 not

00:39:34.120 speak

00:39:34.340 out

00:39:34.500 is

00:39:34.600 because

00:39:34.820 they

00:39:35.020 agree

00:39:35.280 with

00:39:35.480 the

00:39:35.600 government

00:39:35.800 that

00:39:36.000 churches

00:39:36.220 are

00:39:36.420 not

00:39:36.660 an

00:39:37.220 essential

00:39:37.540 service

00:39:38.060 I

00:39:38.880 know

00:39:39.100 a lot

00:39:39.420 of

00:39:39.560 churches

00:39:39.860 really

00:39:40.120 don't

00:39:40.320 believe

00:39:40.600 in

00:39:40.760 anything

00:39:41.060 anymore

00:39:41.380 but

00:39:41.540 there

00:39:41.740 are

00:39:41.880 some

00:39:42.160 that

00:39:42.340 do

00:39:42.600 I

00:39:43.100 don't

00:39:43.260 know

00:39:43.400 why

00:39:43.580 they're

00:39:43.760 so

00:39:43.940 silent

00:39:44.340 here

00:39:44.560 I

00:39:44.660 mean

00:39:44.740 isn't

00:39:45.000 the

00:39:45.140 whole

00:39:45.340 central

00:39:45.840 theology

00:39:46.940 of

00:39:47.280 the

00:39:47.480 Christian

00:39:47.900 church

00:39:48.340 sacrifice

00:39:49.140 and

00:39:49.400 martyrdom

00:39:50.020 and

00:39:51.640 being

00:39:53.260 punished

00:39:53.640 for

00:39:53.900 sins

00:39:54.360 and

00:39:54.640 accepting

00:39:55.140 that

00:39:55.540 and

00:39:55.740 defying

00:39:56.620 that

00:39:56.820 I

00:39:56.980 don't

00:39:57.100 know

00:39:57.200 I'm

00:39:57.380 not

00:39:57.740 a

00:39:57.860 Christian

00:39:58.080 so

00:39:58.300 I

00:39:58.460 shouldn't

00:39:59.020 opine

00:39:59.480 too

00:39:59.680 deeply

00:39:59.940 on

00:40:00.140 these

00:40:00.300 things

00:40:00.520 but

00:40:00.760 aren't

00:40:01.980 Christians

00:40:02.360 sort

00:40:02.660 of

00:40:02.760 about

00:40:03.260 facing

00:40:04.340 down

00:40:04.560 persecution

00:40:05.140 that's

00:40:05.440 what I

00:40:05.680 thought

00:40:05.920 Andreas

00:40:07.620 writes

00:40:07.980 there's

00:40:08.540 no

00:40:08.660 outcry

00:40:09.020 from

00:40:09.240 other

00:40:09.500 churches

00:40:09.760 because

00:40:10.040 they

00:40:10.260 are

00:40:10.360 following

00:40:10.760 fairly

00:40:11.540 reasonable

00:40:12.040 Alberta

00:40:12.340 health

00:40:12.640 regulations

00:40:13.620 during

00:40:13.980 the

00:40:14.220 one

00:40:14.940 in

00:40:15.060 a

00:40:15.180 hundred

00:40:15.360 year

00:40:15.560 pandemic

00:40:16.060 keeping

00:40:16.720 capacity

00:40:17.500 down

00:40:17.720 to

00:40:17.820 15%

00:40:18.300 of

00:40:18.440 fire

00:40:18.660 code

00:40:18.960 adding

00:40:19.600 additional

00:40:20.000 services

00:40:20.420 if necessary

00:40:20.960 and going

00:40:21.280 online

00:40:21.860 or

00:40:22.360 virtual

00:40:22.740 at this

00:40:23.340 time

00:40:23.500 it's

00:40:23.660 possible

00:40:24.020 to be

00:40:24.200 a

00:40:24.340 Christian

00:40:24.640 and

00:40:24.920 follow

00:40:25.120 the

00:40:25.280 authorities

00:40:25.640 God

00:40:25.920 has

00:40:26.080 placed

00:40:26.340 over

00:40:26.580 us

00:40:26.800 at the

00:40:27.300 same

00:40:27.460 time

00:40:27.760 AHS

00:40:28.160 isn't

00:40:28.520 asking

00:40:28.800 anyone

00:40:29.080 to

00:40:29.220 renounce

00:40:29.480 their

00:40:29.660 faith

00:40:29.920 just

00:40:30.440 use

00:40:30.600 precaution

00:40:31.060 due

00:40:31.300 to

00:40:31.420 a

00:40:31.600 health

00:40:31.780 crisis

00:40:32.160 this

00:40:32.760 isn't

00:40:33.000 religious

00:40:33.280 persecution

00:40:33.740 like

00:40:33.980 the

00:40:34.100 rebel

00:40:34.260 in

00:40:34.380 Grace

00:40:34.560 Life

00:40:34.700 Church

00:40:34.900 would

00:40:35.100 like

00:40:35.300 to

00:40:35.460 paint

00:40:35.620 it

00:40:35.780 well

00:40:36.420 I

00:40:36.500 appreciate

00:40:36.780 you

00:40:36.960 taking

00:40:37.180 the

00:40:37.340 time

00:40:37.580 to

00:40:37.780 make

00:40:37.960 that

00:40:38.140 point

00:40:38.480 but I

00:40:39.080 would

00:40:39.180 like

00:40:39.360 to

00:40:39.460 give

00:40:39.560 you

00:40:39.640 a few

00:40:39.880 facts

00:40:40.200 in return

00:40:40.600 first of

00:40:41.040 all

00:40:41.200 no one

00:40:42.680 at

00:40:42.800 Grace

00:40:43.020 Life

00:40:43.200 Church

00:40:43.480 has

00:40:43.680 got

00:40:43.860 sick

00:40:44.180 let

00:40:44.780 alone

00:40:45.020 had

00:40:45.220 an

00:40:45.340 outbreak

00:40:45.660 so

00:40:46.680 it's

00:40:47.040 just

00:40:47.300 not

00:40:47.580 factually

00:40:48.100 true

00:40:48.360 that

00:40:48.520 this

00:40:48.700 is

00:40:48.820 a

00:40:48.960 one

00:40:49.180 in

00:40:49.300 a

00:40:49.440 century

00:40:49.820 pandemic

00:40:50.720 in

00:40:51.360 fact

00:40:51.520 if

00:40:51.640 you

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Rebel News Podcast - April 10, 2021

Trudeau’s Liberals say they will legally censor anyone who “taunts” them — so, it was nice knowing you!

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