Rebel News Podcast - Trump gets EU to cut tariffs. Why can't Canada get a trade deal with Trump, too？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, the European Union does a massive trade deal with Donald Trump, cutting tariffs.

00:00:05.640 Why can't we do that?

00:00:07.360 It's July 26th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:15.820 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.640 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:23.360 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:26.340 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:37.100 Donald Trump doesn't like the European Union and by that I mean the political structure,

00:00:42.040 the mini United Nations that has riveted itself to 28 different democracies there.

00:00:47.700 I'm sure Trump loves Europe itself and individual countries, but not the EU.

00:00:52.900 We know this because Trump supported Brexit, the referendum by which the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union,

00:01:00.260 even though two years later the deep state over there hasn't permitted that exit to take effect.

00:01:05.820 And when Trump was visiting the UK earlier this month, he wasn't shy about giving Theresa May some tough talk about how to get out.

00:01:14.300 I did give Theresa, who I like, I did give her my views on what she should do and how she should negotiate.

00:01:26.340 And she didn't follow those views.

00:01:28.180 I would actually say she probably went the opposite way.

00:01:31.520 If you really look, she probably went the opposite way.

00:01:34.380 That's fine.

00:01:34.900 You know, she should negotiate the best way she knows how.

00:01:38.500 Now, so you'd think that Donald Trump and the European Union would get along terribly, right?

00:01:44.680 I mean, he openly mocks them.

00:01:46.900 Can I show you one more clip?

00:01:47.940 Now, this isn't from the EU.

00:01:49.520 This is from NATO.

00:01:50.940 But there's a lot of overlap, right?

00:01:52.800 So here's Trump meeting at NATO headquarters last month.

00:01:56.640 You've seen this clip.

00:01:57.580 And he just blasts the Europeans, same countries, for shirking on their fair share of military spending.

00:02:03.160 And for buying their energy from Russia, which is a paradox, because, of course, that is the mighty enemy against which NATO was created.

00:02:11.620 Remember this?

00:02:12.020 Well, I have to say, I think it's very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia,

00:02:20.500 where you're supposed to be guarding against Russia, and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia.

00:02:27.840 So we're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting all of these countries.

00:02:33.580 And then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with Russia.

00:02:38.340 Remember that?

00:02:39.060 He went on for a long time.

00:02:40.760 It was great.

00:02:41.280 Let me show you one more thing.

00:02:42.340 Do you know who the president of the European Union is?

00:02:46.220 Of course not.

00:02:46.820 Nobody does.

00:02:47.500 Because nobody gets to elect him.

00:02:49.020 And there's another reason.

00:02:50.640 There are actually several presidents of the EU.

00:02:53.480 I know that sounds nuts.

00:02:54.600 You've got the president of the European Parliament.

00:02:58.120 His name is Antonio Tajani, if I'm saying that right.

00:03:01.660 He's from Italy.

00:03:02.800 Never heard of him.

00:03:03.520 No one else has either.

00:03:04.420 Don't feel bad.

00:03:05.100 I bet most Italians have never heard of him.

00:03:07.200 And then there's this guy, the president of the European Council.

00:03:09.780 That's Donald Tusk from Poland.

00:03:13.920 And then there's the president of the Council of the European Union.

00:03:16.960 That's actually rotated amongst the member countries every six months.

00:03:21.420 So right now, it's actually the democratically elected Austrian chancellor, Sebastian Kurz.

00:03:28.520 Now, he'll be gone pretty soon.

00:03:29.560 I mean, can you even actually get to know a job in six months?

00:03:33.500 It's sort of a joke, really, as the whole EU is.

00:03:35.940 But probably the real leader of the EU is this guy with the unfortunate name Jean-Claude Juncker.

00:03:42.700 He's the president of the European Commission.

00:03:45.220 There are a few more presidents, but I'll stop boring you with all their presidents.

00:03:48.220 But can I show you a video that I think sums this all up?

00:03:51.740 These anonymous, interchangeable European bureaucrat politicians.

00:03:55.640 This is actually the very first video I ever saw of Nigel Farage.

00:03:59.360 First time I ever heard of him.

00:04:00.640 Former leader of the UKIP parties, you know, who is in the European Parliament.

00:04:03.840 He was having a go at another European president named Herman Van Rompuy.

00:04:09.280 And this is a bit tough and a bit thrilling to watch.

00:04:12.400 And I'd like to play it for you for 90 seconds.

00:04:15.820 Take a look at this.

00:04:16.460 You have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk.

00:04:22.120 And the question that I want to ask, the question that I want to ask, that we're all going to ask, is who are you?

00:04:29.320 I'd never heard of you.

00:04:31.280 Nobody in Europe had ever heard of you.

00:04:34.160 I would like to ask you, president, who voted for you?

00:04:38.660 And what mechanism?

00:04:41.340 Oh, I know democracy is not popular with you lot.

00:04:44.340 And what mechanism do the peoples of Europe have to remove you?

00:04:49.260 Is this European democracy?

00:04:51.600 Well, I sense, though, that you're competent and capable and dangerous.

00:04:57.580 And I have no doubt that it's your intention to be the quiet assassin of European democracy and of the European nation states.

00:05:05.420 You appear to have a loathing for the very concept of the existence of nation states.

00:05:11.260 Perhaps that's because you come from Belgium, which, of course, is pretty much a non-country.

00:05:16.280 But since you took over, we've seen Greece reduced to nothing more than a protectorate.

00:05:25.280 Sir, you have no legitimacy in this job at all.

00:05:28.860 And I can say with confidence that I can speak on behalf of the majority of the British people in saying,

00:05:34.900 we don't know you, we don't want you.

00:05:37.500 And the sooner you're put out to grass, the better.

00:05:41.160 Isn't that great?

00:05:41.900 Not only is that true and fun and slightly painful to watch,

00:05:46.840 but remember that Nigel Farage and Donald Trump are friends, right?

00:05:51.460 Trump even mused about having some sort of official role for Farage.

00:05:54.800 I have no doubt that Farage is a trusted source of information and views for Trump.

00:05:58.840 So you can imagine Trump's loathing for the EU as an institution if his best pal in the UK is that guy, Farage.

00:06:06.380 Trump engages in rhetorical flourishes and insults, too.

00:06:09.500 But he's much more a New York City brawler than that British debate club champ that you saw in Farage.

00:06:15.800 And look at the current president of the EU, Junker, which rhymes just by coincidence with the word drunker.

00:06:23.420 I'm sorry to be mean, but check this out.

00:06:26.500 Look at that guy.

00:06:27.120 Now, I don't know.

00:06:27.980 You might be thinking, well, maybe he's just having ambulatory problems.

00:06:32.300 I mean, maybe he just has problems walking.

00:06:34.940 No, no, hang on a second.

00:06:38.040 I'll show you another clip of him getting drunk, slapping people in the face.

00:06:44.700 He's famous for having cognacs with breakfast.

00:06:47.780 Like, look at this.

00:06:48.720 Look at this.

00:06:50.140 He's just meeting people and making Thai jokes.

00:06:52.900 He's about to slap a face.

00:06:54.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the president of the European Union.

00:07:06.720 Yeah, he likes to drink.

00:07:09.180 I mean, let's stop being mean to him, I guess.

00:07:11.440 But I just want you to know that that is the leader of the European Union.

00:07:19.400 But back to Trump.

00:07:25.760 Underneath all of Trump's blistering insults or his over-the-top praise, Donald Trump is a negotiator.

00:07:34.280 He's a dealmaker, even with people he doesn't like.

00:07:38.200 Look at how Trump is dealt with Kim Jong-un of North Korea.

00:07:41.360 He goes from insulting him as little rocket man to praising him as a great leader, whatever it takes to get a deal.

00:07:46.280 And in this case, to disarm a rogue nuclear state.

00:07:50.080 Makes sense.

00:07:50.860 Trump hates the New York Times, owned by Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim.

00:07:56.280 Trump hates the Times.

00:07:57.920 Trump mocks Slim.

00:07:58.760 But then Slim bent the knee and he called up Donald Trump and said, can we meet and figure things out?

00:08:03.940 And look at how Trump handled that.

00:08:05.840 He wrote, yes, it is true.

00:08:08.240 Carlos Slim, the great businessman from Mexico, called me about getting together for a meeting.

00:08:12.500 We met.

00:08:13.020 He is a great guy.

00:08:13.980 Now, I think they still hate each other, but that's the thing about Donald Trump.

00:08:18.320 He will meet with anyone to try to make a deal with anyone if it advances his interests.

00:08:22.700 And for the past 550 days, that means advancing America's interests.

00:08:27.160 And so it was with John Claude Drunker.

00:08:30.740 It doesn't matter that Donald Trump probably hates him as much as Nigel Farage does.

00:08:34.820 It doesn't matter that we know for a fact Trump hates the EU.

00:08:38.120 Trump has a mission, advance America's trade interests.

00:08:41.540 He was threatening the European Union with huge tariffs and other sanctions because they exclude U.S. goods and services.

00:08:47.980 And more to the point, Trump has proven that he's not bluffing when it comes to a trade war.

00:08:52.500 Not only has he been talking about fighting back with tariffs for decades, but he's done it, taking on mighty China.

00:08:57.760 So Junker and the rest of the milquetoast bureaucrats at the EU, probably risk-averse, probably nervous Nellies when they see Trump, who they surely despise too, who they think is a wild cowboy, erratic, dangerous.

00:09:10.440 He comes up and says, open up your countries to American goods or we will block your European goods from America.

00:09:15.420 And they believe his threat.

00:09:17.780 The whole anti-Trump media, the whole anti-Trump commentariat, they were saying to Trump, don't do it, don't threaten a trade war, don't bring in tariffs.

00:09:24.720 That will hurt us all.

00:09:25.520 And of course, they're right.

00:09:27.080 Trump cutting back trade with Europe would hurt everyone, but it would hurt Europe much, much more than it would hurt America that's having a surging economy right now.

00:09:34.700 And so the Europeans blinked.

00:09:36.460 They blinked.

00:09:37.940 And they didn't, you know, they didn't cave into America.

00:09:42.620 It was bilateral.

00:09:43.540 It was symmetrical.

00:09:44.960 Both sides will now have freer trade.

00:09:47.980 It's truly what Trump talks about, a level playing field.

00:09:50.920 Yeah, they reduced more barriers because they had more barriers, but it's equal access for both sides.

00:09:55.600 Amazing.

00:09:56.160 Here, watch this.

00:09:57.400 Already today, the United States and the European Union have a $1 trillion bilateral trade relationship, the largest economic relationship anywhere in the world.

00:10:09.040 We want to further strengthen this trade relationship to the benefit of all American and European citizens.

00:10:17.260 This is why we agreed today, first of all, to work together towards zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods.

00:10:32.740 Thank you.

00:10:33.120 Well, the stock market surged in the wake of that announcement.

00:10:37.080 They were nervous about a trade war.

00:10:38.600 They're celebrating this trade deal.

00:10:40.660 Record highs for the Dow Jones.

00:10:43.260 And look at this hilarious picture of Junker kissing Trump.

00:10:47.220 I don't know if he was drunk or sober, maybe a bit of both.

00:10:50.280 Maybe just relieved that he's not in a fight with Trump.

00:10:52.480 Junker kissed Trump, and Trump thought it was a funny enough moment that he tweeted it.

00:10:58.240 Look what he wrote.

00:10:59.260 It is funny.

00:11:00.080 He said, obviously, the European Union is represented by Junker, and the United States, as represented by yours truly, love each other.

00:11:07.880 Tell me that's not funny.

00:11:09.540 Tell me that's not funny.

00:11:10.900 That is funny.

00:11:11.980 I wonder what Nigel Farage thinks of that.

00:11:14.060 Trump has the best of all worlds.

00:11:15.300 He gets to insult the European when he wants to.

00:11:18.380 He gets a trade deal from them when he wants to.

00:11:20.520 He gets the photo op to Nigel Farage so far.

00:11:23.540 I like Nigel Farage, but he only has one of those three.

00:11:27.040 America first.

00:11:28.000 Hey, can we get a bit of that?

00:11:29.480 Can we get a bit of the Canada first action?

00:11:32.380 As in, maybe Justin Trudeau could get a deal with Trump, too.

00:11:34.980 We are far more reliant on the U.S. market than the Europeans are.

00:11:38.520 We are far more vulnerable through a trade war with Trump than the Europeans are.

00:11:42.560 Trump specifically has threatened our auto sector with a 20% tariff.

00:11:46.400 That would kill 160,000 jobs in Ontario almost immediately, say the Canadian banks.

00:11:51.280 So why doesn't Trudeau just go down to the White House like Junker did, swallow his pride

00:11:55.740 like Junker did, and get a deal with Trump like Jean-Claude Junker did?

00:12:00.800 You know that Junker hates Trump.

00:12:02.140 We know, of course, he does.

00:12:03.000 He's a European.

00:12:03.740 But he feared Trump more than he hated Trump.

00:12:06.680 So he got a good deal for the EU.

00:12:09.040 In what?

00:12:09.480 One day?

00:12:11.440 Do you think that's possible with Trump?

00:12:12.860 Of course it's possible with Trump.

00:12:13.840 He's a Manhattan property developer.

00:12:15.540 He moves fast.

00:12:17.340 It's Trudeau's fault that we don't have a deal now.

00:12:19.660 Remember these headlines?

00:12:20.920 For six months, Trudeau pushed demands on Trump that NAFTA have all sorts of weird inclusions

00:12:26.180 like feminism and global warming, things that don't belong in a trade treaty, things that

00:12:30.180 he knew, things that he knew Trump wasn't interested in, things that were just for Trudeau's

00:12:35.160 own virtue signaling back home.

00:12:36.660 So we don't have a deal with Trump.

00:12:39.680 Trudeau's being passive aggressive about it.

00:12:41.120 He's picking fights with Trump.

00:12:43.200 Gerald Butts, Trudeau's principal secretary, has more or less admitted in this tweet that

00:12:47.760 they want to fight with Trump to use it as a 2019 re-election tactic.

00:12:51.280 Vote for us.

00:12:51.840 We hate the evil Trump.

00:12:53.500 Imagine sacrificing 160,000 Ontario jobs just for a campaign slogan.

00:12:58.240 That's Trudeau and Butts.

00:12:59.320 But look at what Mexico's doing.

00:13:01.480 So Europe got their deal.

00:13:02.900 Now Mexico has a new president.

00:13:04.540 Did you know that?

00:13:05.040 He's a radical leftist.

00:13:06.360 Let me pronounce his name.

00:13:07.120 Andres Manuel López Obrador.

00:13:09.700 You know Trump's views on Mexico.

00:13:11.380 You know that other than China, it's the country he's most upset with when it comes

00:13:14.740 to trade and immigration.

00:13:17.100 But Trump is an opportunist in the best meaning of that word.

00:13:19.420 He looks for opportunity.

00:13:20.560 He just went from war to peace and a kiss with Junker in what, 24 hours?

00:13:24.620 And now with a new Mexican president, Trump sees a new opportunity, just like he's trying

00:13:28.440 to go from war to peace with North Korea, though that is obviously much more serious.

00:13:33.120 Look at this.

00:13:34.800 Congratulations to Andres Manuel López Obrador on becoming the next president of Mexico.

00:13:40.120 I look very much forward to working with him.

00:13:41.880 There is much to be done that will benefit both the United States and Mexico.

00:13:45.000 Hey, talk about turning over a new leaf.

00:13:46.840 Am I right?

00:13:47.360 That's Trump for you.

00:13:48.920 Now look at this headline.

00:13:50.520 Look at this.

00:13:51.620 So this is a week ago.

00:13:52.820 Trump says U.S. may have separate trade deal with Mexico.

00:13:57.000 And then underneath, can you see it there?

00:13:58.420 It says NAFTA ministers said to meet in Washington later this month.

00:14:02.180 Trump says relationship with a new Mexican president is great.

00:14:05.580 Isn't that amazing?

00:14:06.480 And then this news, just five days later, look how fast things are moving.

00:14:10.140 This headline, Mexico wants August NAFTA deal as Trump vows dramatic action.

00:14:16.380 An agreement would let next president focus on domestic issues.

00:14:19.420 Negotiation's set to pick up this week with Washington meetings.

00:14:22.920 Do you see how fast they're moving?

00:14:25.100 Trump sees an opportunity.

00:14:26.220 New Mexican president, new chance.

00:14:27.960 They're moving so quickly.

00:14:29.780 Trump wants a deal with Mexico in August.

00:14:31.960 August starts next week.

00:14:34.040 And why not?

00:14:35.220 He got a deal with Junker.

00:14:37.500 So that's Mexico.

00:14:39.960 In Canada, our prime minister is still on holidays.

00:14:45.140 Do you see that?

00:14:45.660 It says personal days.

00:14:46.480 He's still on holidays.

00:14:47.840 He's been on holidays for a week.

00:14:49.080 He doesn't care.

00:14:49.880 He doesn't care about a mass murder in Toronto.

00:14:51.740 He doesn't care about a trade deal with the U.S.

00:14:54.420 Everyone in the world is getting their trade deal with Trump.

00:14:56.640 And they're good trade deals.

00:14:58.160 They're good deals.

00:14:59.740 And by the way, Trump offered such a deal to Trudeau.

00:15:01.760 He said it in the form of a laugh.

00:15:04.120 The moment he sat down with Trudeau at the G7 summit.

00:15:06.680 But it's not a joke.

00:15:07.900 It's pretty much the deal that Junker just took.

00:15:10.280 Remember this?

00:15:11.880 Justin has agreed to cut all tariffs and all trade barriers between Canada and the United States.

00:15:19.840 That got a laugh.

00:15:20.420 But I'm sorry what's so funny about that.

00:15:21.900 Well, isn't that what free trade means?

00:15:23.980 Don't we actually have a free trade deal with the U.S. right now?

00:15:27.080 Isn't Trump in jest offering something to us that's amazing?

00:15:32.180 Free access to their huge market, the most important market in the world.

00:15:35.040 Don't we need that right now just to keep our auto industry, for example?

00:15:39.280 Why wouldn't Trudeau have responded, well, let's have a deal.

00:15:42.920 Let's do a deal.

00:15:45.040 Trudeau could have said, deal.

00:15:46.720 Let's have the lawyers write it up.

00:15:47.920 And Donald, let's just hang out and have fun in Quebec for the next day.

00:15:50.000 He could have said that, and it would have happened.

00:15:53.120 Why didn't we say yes?

00:15:54.640 Why didn't we take the yes there?

00:15:56.920 That's exactly what Trump and the EU are doing.

00:15:59.480 Zero tariffs.

00:16:01.120 So why was that taken as a joke?

00:16:03.620 The European Union has already agreed to buy a lot more U.S. agriculture and U.S. liquefied

00:16:08.620 natural gas, or LNG.

00:16:10.520 It's winning, winning, winning all the way.

00:16:12.060 Well, why can't we get a deal?

00:16:12.980 I know why, because Gerald Butts wants to fight, because Justin Trudeau wants to protect

00:16:18.040 the Quebec dairy cartel.

00:16:20.840 But Junker just took the same deal, and I bet Mexico will take it too.

00:16:26.040 And who knows what will come out of Donald Trump's negotiations with Russia.

00:16:29.540 I don't know.

00:16:30.200 Canada is being run by a man-child in Justin Trudeau, who's being manipulated by an extreme

00:16:34.720 ideologue in Gerald Butts.

00:16:36.360 Trump is getting his deals.

00:16:37.920 He's a dealmaker.

00:16:39.000 He's working on a deal with North Korea.

00:16:40.560 He got a better deal from NATO.

00:16:42.400 They're spending more money on the military now.

00:16:43.960 He just got a huge EU trade deal.

00:16:46.260 He'll get his Mexico deal, I bet, with people who hate him, and people who he surely hates

00:16:51.920 in return, but he's a grown-up.

00:16:53.380 In Manhattan property deals, you deal with people you hate all day long, and you make

00:16:56.600 billions of dollars if you can do it.

00:16:58.680 Donald Trump is making trillion-dollar deals now for Americans and for others, too.

00:17:03.000 I am sorry to make this prediction.

00:17:05.700 We're going to screw it up.

00:17:06.740 Canada's going to screw it up.

00:17:07.660 Justin Trudeau's going to screw it up.

00:17:08.800 The whole world is about to get better because of these deals, these trade deals, the whole

00:17:12.100 world.

00:17:12.800 But our petty little prince is keeping Canada out of those deals.

00:17:16.920 What a shame.

00:17:18.520 Stay with us for more.

00:17:19.440 You shut your lips right now and listen.

00:17:38.820 We are all free humans here.

00:17:40.140 We are going to be told by white trash what to do anymore.

00:17:44.140 Okay.

00:17:44.700 That is for sure.

00:17:46.100 You're talking to us.

00:17:48.020 I did nothing but respectful.

00:17:48.920 And we are working to build relations with our neighbors.

00:17:54.800 Take off.

00:17:55.480 I will be.

00:17:55.960 You have no right here.

00:17:58.860 I have every right to me.

00:17:59.520 You don't have any right.

00:18:01.160 Of course I do.

00:18:01.840 Let me see your Indian status card.

00:18:03.680 I don't need any Indian status card.

00:18:04.080 Let me see your Indian status card.

00:18:05.960 I can show you my card.

00:18:06.460 Then you don't have that right.

00:18:07.780 Now take off.

00:18:09.060 No, sir.

00:18:09.500 That's not how it works.

00:18:10.500 That's how it works.

00:18:11.700 If you're not on your best behavior, you have to leave.

00:18:14.520 We're not here to agitate you.

00:18:15.360 Take off.

00:18:16.340 None of that is true.

00:18:16.960 Take off.

00:18:18.140 Opinions are not the law.

00:18:19.060 Take off.

00:18:19.920 We're not here to agitate you.

00:18:22.280 Don't touch me.

00:18:23.540 We're not here to agitate you.

00:18:24.500 You're touching me with your violent presence.

00:18:28.460 You don't need to do that.

00:18:29.420 Yeah, I do.

00:18:29.920 No, that's not necessary.

00:18:31.120 Yeah, you're filming us without consent.

00:18:32.680 You can leave.

00:18:33.600 This is...

00:18:34.320 Well, I'm going to be back.

00:18:35.600 Hey, you...

00:18:36.240 Don't f***ing touch me.

00:18:37.720 No, don't f***ing touch me.

00:18:39.840 I have you guys to go.

00:18:40.460 It's time to go.

00:18:43.380 You guys...

00:18:44.220 It's time to go.

00:18:45.300 It's time to go.

00:18:46.240 It's time to go.

00:18:47.180 I literally came here to take photos.

00:18:48.580 It's time...

00:18:48.920 That disgraceful scene happened in Burnaby, B.C.

00:18:51.640 at the illegal slum shantytown

00:18:54.900 by professional actors and other paid protesters

00:18:58.080 against the Kinder Morgan Pipeline expansion.

00:19:01.340 Not only are they super gross,

00:19:03.200 and as you can see,

00:19:04.440 the racists calling Andrew Mann white trash,

00:19:07.380 making racial demands that he prove his aboriginal status

00:19:11.060 before standing on the public road.

00:19:13.060 It looks like they assaulted the person holding the camera.

00:19:16.920 We'll talk to Andrew in a minute about this.

00:19:18.920 But they're all in contravention of an order by the public,

00:19:24.300 by the Burnaby municipality,

00:19:26.960 to vacate their illegal shantytown.

00:19:31.100 Well, joining us now is Andrew Mann,

00:19:33.820 the person in that video.

00:19:36.040 He's with Suits and Boots.

00:19:38.040 And he joins us now.

00:19:38.900 Andrew, nice to meet you.

00:19:39.940 Tell me a little bit more about what we saw there.

00:19:44.240 Who was holding the camera?

00:19:45.740 What happened when they were jostled?

00:19:47.780 Give us a few more facts.

00:19:50.380 Yeah.

00:19:50.740 All right.

00:19:51.100 So the main fact I want to start off with, Ezra,

00:19:53.420 is that I didn't go up there as a...

00:19:56.600 Well, they didn't know I was a Suits and Boots supporter

00:19:59.040 when I was up there.

00:19:59.860 What Suits and Boots first?

00:20:00.860 Let me stop you right there.

00:20:01.720 It sounds great.

00:20:02.320 Yeah.

00:20:02.720 Okay.

00:20:03.100 So Suits and Boots is great.

00:20:04.940 Suits and Boots is a non-for-profit,

00:20:08.600 pro-resource lobbying group.

00:20:11.140 We are out and about trying to garner support

00:20:14.640 for our resource sector in Canada

00:20:16.160 and trying to counter the protesters

00:20:19.340 that seem to be getting away with far too much aggression,

00:20:22.720 that seem to be getting away with...

00:20:24.320 It's just they're getting leeway from the media

00:20:27.520 and from the politicians

00:20:29.000 to do essentially what they want, when they want,

00:20:32.940 and Suits and Boots,

00:20:34.620 we just decided it was about time

00:20:36.240 that somebody stood up for the working man,

00:20:38.200 the jobs, and the resource sector,

00:20:39.740 and that's our job.

00:20:40.720 So are you the Suits side or the Boots side?

00:20:43.560 I'm the Boots side.

00:20:44.740 If you're looking behind me here,

00:20:46.380 you can see a blank white wall,

00:20:48.320 and I'm just sitting in a little corner

00:20:49.520 on our job site right now.

00:20:50.960 Well, thanks for having me.

00:20:51.720 So are you an electrician?

00:20:52.920 Is that your background?

00:20:54.780 I'm an electrician, yes, sir.

00:20:56.060 Right on.

00:20:56.380 You're a working man,

00:20:57.340 and there'd be a lot of jobs

00:20:58.900 that would come from any of these construction projects.

00:21:01.300 They're multi-billion dollar

00:21:02.440 shovel-ready construction projects.

00:21:04.620 It's incredible that they're blocked by some hippies.

00:21:07.240 So you went up there,

00:21:08.440 and you were very well behaved,

00:21:10.060 at least in the clip I saw.

00:21:11.220 You did not swear.

00:21:12.340 You were not antagonistic.

00:21:13.500 You were not physical.

00:21:15.020 All the things that happened to you,

00:21:16.620 tell me a little bit more about what they said and did,

00:21:18.660 and who was it holding the camera?

00:21:20.040 Was that your wife?

00:21:22.620 That was my fiancée holding the camera, actually.

00:21:25.340 And it sounds like she looked like she was pushed.

00:21:27.400 Was she pushed?

00:21:29.080 Yes, she was pushed.

00:21:30.620 You can hear at the end of the video,

00:21:32.480 I came down with the most thunderous voice

00:21:35.880 I think I could muster up saying,

00:21:37.680 you stay away from her.

00:21:39.360 You don't touch her.

00:21:40.400 And that's because, well, they touched it.

00:21:42.840 And you know, as the man in that relationship,

00:21:44.640 it's my job to jump in and ensure her safety.

00:21:47.240 And that's exactly what I did.

00:21:48.460 Well, you're exactly right.

00:21:49.400 And it's telling to me

00:21:51.020 that they didn't have the courage to push you around.

00:21:54.120 I mean, they came right in your face.

00:21:55.480 That was pretty gross.

00:21:56.620 And I think he brushed up against you.

00:21:58.500 But classic Antifa move,

00:22:00.980 classic alt-left cowards,

00:22:03.180 they go after the woman.

00:22:04.420 It always happens.

00:22:05.740 They've done it to our reporters, too.

00:22:07.340 Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:22:08.560 when Lauren Southern was with us,

00:22:10.300 Faith Goldie,

00:22:11.400 they always beat up

00:22:13.560 or try to beat up the women.

00:22:15.120 And I think it says a lot about them, doesn't it?

00:22:19.660 I couldn't tell you why they do that,

00:22:21.920 but you're correct.

00:22:22.720 It seems they go for the easy target,

00:22:24.660 the low-hanging fruit.

00:22:26.320 Victoria is five feet tall.

00:22:28.120 I'd be surprised if she weighed over 100 pounds.

00:22:30.420 She is the easiest target you could find.

00:22:32.360 And the protesters after the video cutout

00:22:36.540 told me to go back to my car

00:22:37.800 with my underage girlfriend.

00:22:39.660 Well, she's not underage, first of all.

00:22:42.080 She's exactly my age.

00:22:43.760 And they assaulted her,

00:22:46.280 which leads me to think

00:22:47.300 they, in their mind,

00:22:48.380 just assaulted a minor.

00:22:50.100 How is that logical?

00:22:51.520 So that is, theoretically,

00:22:53.300 the lowest-hanging fruit.

00:22:54.540 An under-100-pound minor female

00:22:56.600 is what, in their head,

00:22:57.860 they assaulted at that time.

00:22:59.100 Now, we sent our own Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:23:01.340 to that same location a few days ago.

00:23:03.680 We knew that they would come

00:23:05.240 and try and rough her up

00:23:06.200 because they've done it before.

00:23:07.140 So we sent a professional security guard.

00:23:10.340 And because of that,

00:23:11.820 she was okay

00:23:12.480 and our cameraman was okay.

00:23:14.500 Were there any private security

00:23:16.700 or police there?

00:23:18.080 Was there a police car?

00:23:19.160 Did any authority observe this altercation?

00:23:23.620 No, sir.

00:23:24.380 There was no private security

00:23:26.000 and there was no RCMP presence up there.

00:23:31.280 When did this all happen, by the way?

00:23:32.800 When did that video,

00:23:33.900 when was it filmed?

00:23:35.400 It was filmed Monday night

00:23:36.520 at around 7 p.m.

00:23:37.600 All right.

00:23:38.060 So I know for a fact,

00:23:39.500 because I've seen a copy of it,

00:23:41.000 the city has issued an injunction,

00:23:43.020 which is basically a way of saying

00:23:44.380 a court, a legal order,

00:23:45.740 a legal order saying,

00:23:46.860 get out,

00:23:47.480 we're going to clear out

00:23:48.440 your shantytown, your slum.

00:23:50.560 Sounds like they're still there.

00:23:51.680 Is that right?

00:23:53.660 Oh, they're clearly still there.

00:23:55.140 I hear the deadline was

00:23:56.380 6 a.m. Saturday morning

00:23:57.960 for them to be a vacated site.

00:24:00.160 And they're clearly still on site.

00:24:02.520 They don't intend to leave.

00:24:06.520 And I think they will do

00:24:08.720 whatever they need to to stay.

00:24:10.200 They don't want to leave their site.

00:24:11.840 You know, you have two people.

00:24:13.800 They may be mentally ill.

00:24:14.920 I don't know.

00:24:15.320 You have an older man

00:24:16.880 and a middle-aged woman there.

00:24:18.320 I don't think it would be tough

00:24:19.380 to very gently pick them up,

00:24:21.240 put them in the back of a police vehicle,

00:24:22.760 take them to court or whatever.

00:24:24.460 I mean, I don't think it,

00:24:25.400 like it doesn't look like

00:24:26.320 these are heavily armed bodybuilders.

00:24:29.140 I think really half a dozen police

00:24:30.780 could come and clear this whole thing up

00:24:32.660 and then you bring in, you know,

00:24:33.940 a 1-800-got-junk truck

00:24:37.060 to pick up their shantytown.

00:24:38.740 Like, it should not be

00:24:39.600 a logistically difficult thing to do

00:24:41.480 other than the lack of political will.

00:24:44.240 There is no one in Burnaby,

00:24:45.840 whether it's a police, prosecutor,

00:24:48.200 politician, or the press,

00:24:50.200 willing to go in and fix this problem.

00:24:52.420 I mean, the fact that

00:24:53.360 they're defying the order...

00:24:54.140 Oh, you know, I would like to just...

00:24:57.140 I wouldn't say there's not a police.

00:24:59.040 And I can't speak for the political side there

00:25:01.020 because I don't get involved

00:25:01.920 in Burnaby politics.

00:25:03.540 But the police officers that came

00:25:05.520 and assisted me in trying

00:25:07.020 to find my license plate

00:25:08.200 and to take the report after the assault,

00:25:11.380 they were interested

00:25:12.980 in the clearing of the camp.

00:25:15.440 They didn't seem to want it there.

00:25:16.920 They understood that they have

00:25:18.300 to follow orders from their superiors.

00:25:20.120 Got it.

00:25:20.400 So I'd say it's unfair to say

00:25:21.640 there's not a single police in Burnaby

00:25:23.020 that wants that gone.

00:25:24.000 Thank you for the correction.

00:25:25.320 I accept your point.

00:25:26.140 The beat cops are probably sick of it,

00:25:28.380 but the brass are political.

00:25:30.180 I appreciate that important distinction.

00:25:32.700 Again, that's sort of

00:25:33.340 a boots and suits distinction.

00:25:34.660 The boots.

00:25:35.240 The boots on the ground,

00:25:36.320 the cops on the beat

00:25:37.180 want these hippies and hobos gone.

00:25:39.580 But the political brass

00:25:40.860 are paying attention

00:25:41.560 to what John Horgan, the premier,

00:25:43.260 or Justin Trudeau,

00:25:44.120 the prime minister,

00:25:44.740 have to say.

00:25:45.120 That's my theory.

00:25:47.520 Well, it's probably

00:25:48.680 not an incorrect theory.

00:25:51.040 So it sounds like

00:25:52.360 you have filed a police report.

00:25:54.660 You've got the video evidence,

00:25:56.480 or at least partial video evidence.

00:25:58.140 Do you think the police

00:25:59.320 will take any action?

00:26:00.980 Because I think,

00:26:01.860 I'm not sure if what happened to you

00:26:03.320 could be called an assault.

00:26:04.460 Maybe.

00:26:05.460 But it looks like

00:26:06.740 what happened to your fiancé

00:26:07.920 definitely was.

00:26:08.720 So in the video,

00:26:11.060 what happened to me was,

00:26:12.740 you can see that I clearly

00:26:14.040 got brushed by that elder.

00:26:16.000 And I would never press charges

00:26:17.480 on him for any reason.

00:26:18.620 I can respect him enough

00:26:19.700 to not instigate any further.

00:26:22.600 The young fellow

00:26:23.340 that pushed my fiancé

00:26:24.640 also shoved me around too.

00:26:27.340 And at the end of the video,

00:26:29.680 you'll have to pay real good attention,

00:26:31.180 Ezra,

00:26:31.420 but I advise that you watch

00:26:33.360 the last 10 seconds of the video.

00:26:35.320 You'll see on the ground,

00:26:36.300 there is an aluminum piece of metal

00:26:38.760 that's used to support road signs

00:26:41.040 on construction sites

00:26:41.980 laying on the ground.

00:26:42.940 And you'll see it in the video,

00:26:44.380 and then you'll see it get picked up,

00:26:45.780 and then you'll see the shadow of it

00:26:47.080 facing directly at my body

00:26:48.760 in the video.

00:26:49.940 And the scrawny guy

00:26:52.380 who shoved Victoria

00:26:54.480 and also shoved me

00:26:55.420 picked up that piece of aluminum

00:26:57.340 in attempts to joust me

00:26:58.880 back to my car.

00:26:59.960 And then followed my fiancé

00:27:01.820 back to the car with it.

00:27:03.040 No, you don't need to do that.

00:27:05.580 No, that's not necessary.

00:27:07.320 Yeah, you're filming us

00:27:08.100 without consent.

00:27:08.880 You can leave.

00:27:09.800 This is...

00:27:10.540 Well, I'm going to be back.

00:27:11.800 Hey, you...

00:27:12.440 Don't f***ing touch me.

00:27:13.920 No, don't f***ing touch me.

00:27:16.040 I have to go.

00:27:16.640 It's time to go.

00:27:17.200 Okay.

00:27:19.660 You guys...

00:27:20.440 It's time to go.

00:27:21.500 It's time to go.

00:27:22.440 It's time to go.

00:27:23.380 I literally came here

00:27:24.300 to take photos.

00:27:25.320 Well, there you go.

00:27:26.020 So did you give this video

00:27:27.540 evidence to the police?

00:27:30.080 Instantly.

00:27:30.700 The police,

00:27:31.320 they arrived,

00:27:32.380 pulled out their laptop.

00:27:33.300 I plugged my phone

00:27:34.040 into their laptop

00:27:34.700 and he transferred the file.

00:27:36.780 All right.

00:27:37.320 Well, listen,

00:27:37.700 I hope they do something.

00:27:38.820 I got to tell you,

00:27:40.040 I accept your observation

00:27:42.100 that the deep cops,

00:27:44.220 the actual police

00:27:45.020 on the street,

00:27:45.660 want to uphold the law.

00:27:47.240 No one goes

00:27:47.800 to the police academy

00:27:48.800 saying,

00:27:49.300 I want to be

00:27:49.680 a political hack.

00:27:50.780 They want to go

00:27:51.500 uphold the law.

00:27:52.620 Or saying they want

00:27:53.780 to be a pushover.

00:27:54.840 Yeah.

00:27:55.100 What police officer

00:27:56.420 do you know

00:27:56.980 on the ground

00:27:57.620 admits to wanting

00:27:58.960 to be a pushover?

00:28:00.200 None of them.

00:28:00.960 They want to uphold the law.

00:28:02.600 Well, this will be up

00:28:03.500 to the prosecutors

00:28:04.220 who are intensely political,

00:28:05.740 I fear.

00:28:06.420 Well, listen, Andrew,

00:28:07.100 I'm glad you're safe.

00:28:07.840 I'm glad your fiancé is safe

00:28:09.060 and I'm glad you videoed it.

00:28:11.260 I'm afraid that,

00:28:13.220 well, we'll have to find out.

00:28:14.480 I do not think

00:28:15.180 that there is a political will

00:28:16.300 to clear these rubby-dubs.

00:28:17.880 They should be gone

00:28:18.660 in an hour

00:28:19.380 and the pipeline

00:28:20.660 should proceed.

00:28:21.780 But I fear

00:28:22.880 that no one in authority

00:28:24.100 has that courage.

00:28:24.900 I'm glad you do

00:28:25.600 and congratulations to you

00:28:26.880 and the Boots and Suits team.

00:28:29.740 Yeah, well, I think

00:28:30.640 we have the momentum.

00:28:32.040 I think that maybe

00:28:33.180 the political will

00:28:34.040 isn't there,

00:28:34.920 but the issue for eviction

00:28:35.960 has been made by the city.

00:28:39.540 And maybe I'm a bit

00:28:42.080 of an optimist,

00:28:42.800 but I think that this event

00:28:43.740 was the catalyst

00:28:44.440 for people getting involved

00:28:46.000 in doing something.

00:28:47.120 I can't see a reason

00:28:48.560 for the city of Burnaby

00:28:49.640 to keep this going

00:28:51.520 much longer

00:28:52.120 where it is an actual

00:28:53.440 hazard to safety

00:28:54.520 of the citizens of Burnaby

00:28:55.680 and the residential area

00:28:57.180 of Burnaby Mountains.

00:28:59.380 So I want to say

00:29:01.980 that something might happen.

00:29:03.200 I'm very optimistic

00:29:04.240 and forward-looking here.

00:29:05.460 And, you know,

00:29:06.060 the sooner something happens,

00:29:07.120 the sooner we get

00:29:07.680 those shovels in the ground

00:29:08.580 and the sooner

00:29:09.020 those jobs are made.

00:29:10.000 We need to get our oil

00:29:11.520 workers back to work.

00:29:12.820 Well, you're a young guy.

00:29:14.000 You're working hard.

00:29:14.760 You're in love.

00:29:15.260 You're engaged.

00:29:15.940 Everything's positive

00:29:16.760 and happy to you.

00:29:18.100 I'm old and cynical.

00:29:18.980 I've seen the mayor of Burnaby

00:29:20.400 positively say

00:29:21.940 that he would be

00:29:22.740 a protester too.

00:29:24.000 So you be the young pup,

00:29:26.060 the optimist,

00:29:26.760 I'll be the old dog

00:29:28.200 who's a pessimist

00:29:29.160 and maybe my expectations

00:29:31.860 will be exceeded.

00:29:32.700 I hope you're right, Andrew.

00:29:33.840 I just...

00:29:34.480 It'll do well for us

00:29:37.560 if they get out of there.

00:29:39.520 And, you know,

00:29:40.140 I'm very happy

00:29:41.360 that we were able

00:29:42.600 to get on top of this

00:29:43.520 and show that

00:29:44.420 this is like it up there

00:29:45.300 because the last thing

00:29:46.460 I want is for some children

00:29:47.640 or anybody going around

00:29:48.720 in that community

00:29:49.420 to be treated unfairly,

00:29:51.480 to be shown racist behavior

00:29:53.800 towards them

00:29:54.560 or get aggressive

00:29:55.600 just for being in the area.

00:29:57.360 And I had to thank

00:29:58.820 the media last night

00:30:00.500 for coming out

00:30:02.080 and asking them

00:30:03.200 what I asked them to say.

00:30:04.220 I just wanted to

00:30:05.200 let the Burnaby RCMP

00:30:06.520 know in the Burnaby city

00:30:08.100 that we need to issue

00:30:09.740 a statement saying

00:30:10.760 that it's unsafe

00:30:11.400 to go up there.

00:30:12.200 And I think they've got the memo.

00:30:14.060 Yeah, great.

00:30:14.740 Well, listen,

00:30:15.660 I'm glad you're doing...

00:30:16.840 Should we go ahead?

00:30:18.120 I just wanted to

00:30:19.540 bring this up,

00:30:20.640 breaking news.

00:30:21.440 I just got an update

00:30:22.680 from my fiance

00:30:23.540 who's been very active

00:30:24.660 in keeping me up to date

00:30:25.640 while I'm at work.

00:30:26.360 She's at home

00:30:26.780 taking care of the house

00:30:27.640 and I'm here,

00:30:28.820 you know, working.

00:30:29.620 And she just sent me a message.

00:30:31.420 Would you mind

00:30:31.820 if I read it to you?

00:30:32.540 Go ahead, yeah.

00:30:34.260 Check out this one guy.

00:30:36.420 I'll tell you his name.

00:30:37.940 His name is Kelvin Gawley.

00:30:39.720 Check out Kelvin Gawley's

00:30:41.040 latest tweet.

00:30:42.120 Burnaby is seeking

00:30:43.120 court order

00:30:43.800 to force Camp Cloud

00:30:44.780 to leave.

00:30:45.720 Great thing,

00:30:46.220 I just received that text

00:30:47.220 at 1117 Pacific Time.

00:30:49.660 Well, I hope

00:30:50.520 something comes from it,

00:30:52.240 but you know what?

00:30:55.020 I hope you're right,

00:30:56.060 Andrew.

00:30:56.340 I hope I'm wrong.

00:30:57.160 I hope you're optimistic

00:30:57.900 and hope are redeemed

00:30:59.260 and vindicated

00:30:59.900 and I'm glad you're fighting

00:31:00.960 because we need this pipeline

00:31:03.480 for moral reasons

00:31:04.780 and rule of law reasons

00:31:05.980 as well as...

00:31:07.080 That's what I...

00:31:08.660 Rule of law.

00:31:09.820 It's very important

00:31:11.060 that we keep that in mind.

00:31:12.500 It's the rule of law

00:31:13.260 and I was very careful

00:31:14.520 I was up there

00:31:15.080 to not step out

00:31:16.860 of the boundaries

00:31:17.420 that the law puts around me

00:31:18.640 and I think that is why

00:31:20.000 we came across the well

00:31:21.020 in that video

00:31:21.620 because we followed

00:31:22.540 the rule of law.

00:31:23.500 Good for you.

00:31:24.400 Well, you know what?

00:31:25.180 Maybe, Andrew,

00:31:25.800 maybe you're giving me

00:31:26.600 a little bit of hope here too.

00:31:28.480 I'm glad you're picking up

00:31:29.580 the torch and fighting it.

00:31:30.700 I mean,

00:31:30.880 it's been a long battle

00:31:32.620 and I'm glad

00:31:33.160 you've got enthusiasm

00:31:34.080 and hopefully

00:31:35.800 you'll have a result

00:31:36.620 and keep it up

00:31:37.140 and stay safe, okay?

00:31:38.900 Yeah, hey,

00:31:39.600 one quick thing for you, Ezra.

00:31:40.680 I just wanted to see

00:31:41.580 if I could say this.

00:31:43.400 Suits and Boots,

00:31:44.160 just on behalf

00:31:44.880 of the organization,

00:31:46.200 we're fairly new.

00:31:47.220 You've probably done

00:31:47.780 your research into us

00:31:48.580 since we opened.

00:31:49.280 We only opened up

00:31:50.080 as our first event

00:31:50.960 was May 26th,

00:31:52.160 the Rally for Resources

00:31:52.960 here in BC.

00:31:53.840 Right.

00:31:54.920 We're going to be doing

00:31:55.920 a tour.

00:31:57.400 We're going to be going around

00:31:58.540 and we're going to start

00:31:59.560 spreading the word

00:32:01.260 about resource development

00:32:02.280 in BC.

00:32:02.700 We're really trying

00:32:03.440 to, as you said,

00:32:04.480 pick up that torch

00:32:05.320 and walk with it

00:32:06.160 and make sure

00:32:06.560 that people know

00:32:07.120 that there are

00:32:07.900 organizations fighting

00:32:09.560 for the jobs

00:32:10.140 of the oil workers

00:32:10.900 and we're going

00:32:11.360 to be going around.

00:32:12.320 What's your website

00:32:12.880 where people can find them?

00:32:13.780 My website is

00:32:14.420 suitsandboots.ca.

00:32:16.940 All of our information

00:32:17.860 is there.

00:32:19.440 Anything that your viewers

00:32:21.240 or listeners

00:32:21.760 are going to want to see

00:32:22.660 on our organization

00:32:23.800 is all on the website.

00:32:25.900 Good.

00:32:26.140 Well, I like your style

00:32:27.100 and the fact

00:32:28.500 that you're getting out

00:32:29.080 and organizing.

00:32:30.160 Keep us posted.

00:32:30.760 We'd love to stay

00:32:32.760 in touch with you

00:32:33.320 and help spread the word.

00:32:34.540 We can maybe even

00:32:35.100 send out an email

00:32:35.840 to our people

00:32:36.440 in the region

00:32:36.880 who might be interested.

00:32:37.780 So let's continue

00:32:38.740 this conversation offline.

00:32:39.960 But for now,

00:32:40.800 thanks for giving us

00:32:41.460 the report

00:32:41.920 and it sounds like

00:32:43.680 you're not done fighting

00:32:44.340 and that you're

00:32:45.200 my kind of guy.

00:32:46.500 Thanks for giving us

00:32:47.760 the news.

00:32:49.180 Thanks, Ezra.

00:32:49.680 You have a great day

00:32:50.500 and stay safe out there.

00:32:52.160 Yeah, you sure will.

00:32:53.500 Well, there you have it.

00:32:54.840 Andrew Mann.

00:32:55.700 What a good egg, eh?

00:32:56.780 I enjoyed meeting him.

00:32:58.560 He's the boots part

00:32:59.620 of the Suits and Boots.

00:33:00.680 He's an electrician.

00:33:01.380 Joined us from the job site.

00:33:03.120 But he and his fiancé

00:33:04.420 went out there

00:33:05.260 to confront the bad guys

00:33:06.680 and I'm glad

00:33:07.540 they weren't hurt

00:33:08.500 in a serious way.

00:33:09.980 But you saw

00:33:10.680 the lawlessness

00:33:11.500 that's there

00:33:12.740 and Andrew's hopeful.

00:33:14.440 Maybe I shouldn't be cynical

00:33:15.500 but I've just been

00:33:16.480 disappointed so many times

00:33:17.640 in the politicians

00:33:18.360 and the prosecutors

00:33:19.960 in this country

00:33:20.620 so we'll see.

00:33:21.560 All right.

00:33:22.340 Stay with us.

00:33:23.000 More ahead on the road.

00:33:35.240 Well, it was about

00:33:36.040 two years ago

00:33:36.640 that I first read

00:33:37.300 something absolutely terrifying

00:33:38.720 written by Eric Schmidt,

00:33:40.560 senior executive at Google.

00:33:42.040 He was writing

00:33:42.480 in the New York Times

00:33:43.540 dreaming about a future,

00:33:46.160 his vision for the future

00:33:47.620 of technology

00:33:48.500 and the internet.

00:33:49.780 And there's one phrase

00:33:50.760 that he used

00:33:51.420 that has stuck with me

00:33:52.480 ever since.

00:33:53.780 He said

00:33:55.460 he wanted to develop

00:33:57.360 a spell check

00:33:59.740 but for hate.

00:34:02.440 As in,

00:34:03.160 if you had an idea

00:34:04.280 that had the wrong emotion,

00:34:06.800 the wrong feeling,

00:34:08.220 something that you

00:34:09.660 thought was hateful

00:34:11.200 or that he thought

00:34:11.980 was hateful,

00:34:13.040 your computer would

00:34:14.320 delete that,

00:34:15.520 auto-correct it,

00:34:16.460 just like if you type

00:34:17.880 in the wrong word

00:34:18.840 it would fix it for you.

00:34:21.160 Today we see

00:34:22.200 Jack Dorsey,

00:34:24.000 the president of Twitter,

00:34:25.700 talking about

00:34:26.500 ensuring that

00:34:27.300 conversations are

00:34:28.560 healthy.

00:34:30.100 But if you say

00:34:30.840 things that are not healthy,

00:34:32.180 they'll be corrected too.

00:34:34.040 That's bad enough

00:34:34.820 when it comes to ideas

00:34:36.120 and censorship.

00:34:37.460 But what about

00:34:38.160 when it goes one level

00:34:39.220 deeper in the internet?

00:34:40.620 If you are no longer

00:34:42.320 allowed to even

00:34:43.240 process credit cards

00:34:44.980 or accept money

00:34:46.640 from your viewers

00:34:47.420 because some

00:34:48.660 far-left-wing

00:34:50.120 alt-left executive

00:34:51.700 like Eric Schmidt

00:34:53.000 or Jack Dorsey

00:34:53.780 says,

00:34:54.740 you have the wrong feelings.

00:34:56.220 Your conversations

00:34:56.920 are not healthy enough.

00:34:59.600 Well, a man

00:35:00.000 who follows this beat

00:35:00.900 more closely

00:35:01.460 than anyone else

00:35:02.320 in the world

00:35:02.840 is our friend

00:35:03.960 Alan Bokhari.

00:35:05.460 He is the

00:35:06.260 Breitbart News

00:35:07.380 senior technology

00:35:08.660 correspondent

00:35:09.300 and he joins us

00:35:10.580 now via Skype.

00:35:11.420 Alan, great to see you again.

00:35:12.500 Welcome back to the show.

00:35:14.460 Thanks, Ezra.

00:35:15.000 Good to be here.

00:35:15.920 You know, I've just read

00:35:16.960 your very comprehensive

00:35:18.100 report called

00:35:18.880 Stripe, PayPal, Patreon.

00:35:22.120 The right is being banned

00:35:23.500 from online fundraising.

00:35:25.480 Not just fundraising,

00:35:26.440 any sort of commerce at all.

00:35:28.300 Tell me,

00:35:28.920 I mean, I think most of our viewers

00:35:30.180 are familiar with PayPal

00:35:31.180 because that's what we use

00:35:32.780 here at The Rebel.

00:35:33.420 We use Stripe as well.

00:35:34.920 Patreon.

00:35:35.620 I think we've heard of it.

00:35:36.460 A lot of our viewers,

00:35:37.240 it's what Dr. Jordan Peterson uses.

00:35:40.100 But between those three companies,

00:35:42.560 they pretty much dominate

00:35:44.700 online commerce

00:35:45.660 the same way Google

00:35:46.560 dominates search.

00:35:47.540 Am I right?

00:35:48.680 More or less,

00:35:49.220 there are two levels

00:35:50.000 of online fundraising.

00:35:51.380 There are these

00:35:51.820 crowdfunding platforms

00:35:53.640 which are essentially

00:35:54.460 fundraising,

00:35:57.300 fundraising online.

00:35:58.340 So in the same way

00:35:58.920 that in the past

00:35:59.800 people would like

00:36:00.340 go around with a tin

00:36:01.380 and collect donations.

00:36:03.420 Patreon is a bit like that.

00:36:04.700 And there are also other sites

00:36:05.820 like GoFundMe

00:36:06.460 and Kickstarter

00:36:06.980 where people are allowed

00:36:07.780 to create campaigns,

00:36:10.180 create causes

00:36:10.880 and allow people

00:36:11.460 to donate to them.

00:36:12.420 You can also develop

00:36:13.580 an income stream

00:36:15.380 through Patreon.

00:36:16.040 This is what Jordan Peterson does.

00:36:17.120 It's what many figures

00:36:19.340 on the right do.

00:36:20.660 Many YouTubers,

00:36:21.380 I got off to CAD,

00:36:22.500 Laura M. Southen,

00:36:23.060 used to have a Patreon

00:36:23.640 before she got banned.

00:36:26.080 Brittany Pettipon

00:36:26.860 also got banned from Patreon.

00:36:28.140 It's a way for people,

00:36:29.340 because so much of content

00:36:30.800 on the internet is free,

00:36:32.100 whether it's making YouTube videos

00:36:33.720 or writing articles,

00:36:36.960 one of the ways

00:36:37.660 independent commentators

00:36:38.980 support themselves

00:36:39.560 is by allowing their fans

00:36:41.480 and their followers

00:36:42.020 to contribute to them

00:36:43.020 on a monthly basis

00:36:44.000 via platforms like Patreon.

00:36:46.500 And that essentially

00:36:48.260 is their income,

00:36:48.920 it's their livelihood.

00:36:50.020 The problem, of course,

00:36:51.040 is that these platforms,

00:36:52.480 especially Patreon,

00:36:53.420 increasingly,

00:36:55.180 are much like Twitter

00:36:56.020 and Facebook

00:36:56.540 run by people

00:36:58.660 who are pretty politically biased

00:37:00.160 and they enforce their rules

00:37:01.120 in an uneven manner.

00:37:02.680 And in my article,

00:37:03.800 I looked at two or three examples

00:37:05.980 where right-wing YouTubers

00:37:08.080 have been banned

00:37:08.840 from Patreon.

00:37:10.360 Brittany Pettipon

00:37:10.940 was the most recent.

00:37:12.400 They banned her

00:37:13.100 for supporting a group

00:37:13.860 called Defend Europe.

00:37:16.500 And Patreon argued

00:37:19.220 that this group

00:37:19.860 was a violent organization,

00:37:22.120 even though the group

00:37:22.520 specifically disannounced violence.

00:37:23.780 They'd never encouraged violence

00:37:25.260 to engage in violence

00:37:26.080 as far as I can tell.

00:37:27.820 But they used that excuse

00:37:29.080 and they banter anyway.

00:37:30.200 See, there's some websites

00:37:31.320 that we use, Indiegogo sometimes.

00:37:33.660 That's a crowdfunding website.

00:37:35.400 But there's a deeper level, too.

00:37:37.540 I mean, just any sort

00:37:39.220 of credit card transaction service.

00:37:41.500 Not even, I mean,

00:37:42.320 Patreon is more than just

00:37:44.600 a credit card facility.

00:37:45.740 It's a system.

00:37:47.960 You can put videos up.

00:37:49.320 You can build lists.

00:37:50.260 So it's a whole one-stop shop.

00:37:52.400 But at an infrastructure level

00:37:54.960 deeper than that,

00:37:55.920 this would really be like

00:37:57.200 Visa or MasterCard saying,

00:37:59.220 we don't like what you're doing,

00:38:02.600 so we're going to ban you

00:38:04.060 from using Visa or MasterCard.

00:38:06.780 Is that the analogy, Alan?

00:38:09.240 Basically, yes.

00:38:10.300 And the problem is

00:38:11.820 it's all interconnected.

00:38:12.720 So platforms like Patreon

00:38:14.260 and Kickstarter

00:38:14.840 rely on technologies

00:38:16.660 like PayPal and Stripe,

00:38:20.560 which process payments

00:38:21.680 through credit cards

00:38:23.300 like Visa and MasterCard.

00:38:26.400 So if Visa and MasterCard

00:38:28.040 decide to cut you off,

00:38:29.720 then you won't be able

00:38:31.300 to use PayPal or Stripe anyway.

00:38:33.020 And equally,

00:38:33.880 if Visa and MasterCard go to,

00:38:35.100 or a bank like Wells Fargo

00:38:36.620 go to companies like PayPal or Stripe

00:38:40.320 or who will then go to companies

00:38:42.860 like Patreon and Kickstarter

00:38:43.860 who rely on their service

00:38:44.640 and say,

00:38:45.100 well, you can't allow this person,

00:38:46.540 it creates kind of chain reactions.

00:38:48.860 So I'd say Patreon,

00:38:50.940 Patreon's like the third level.

00:38:52.160 Then there's processes

00:38:53.660 like PayPal and Stripe.

00:38:55.640 And then there's banks

00:38:56.480 and credit cards.

00:38:58.660 So at the very,

00:39:00.240 and banks and credit cards

00:39:01.300 have been known

00:39:01.780 to cut off people

00:39:02.300 for political reasons.

00:39:03.040 And it's not just people

00:39:03.660 on the right eye

00:39:04.260 that this goes all the way

00:39:05.060 back to 2011 and Wikileaks.

00:39:09.040 In 2011,

00:39:10.520 first PayPal cut off service

00:39:12.340 to Julian Assange and Wikileaks

00:39:14.160 and then MasterCard

00:39:15.000 and Visa followed suit.

00:39:16.420 So this has been happening

00:39:17.600 for a long time.

00:39:18.440 It's been happening

00:39:18.820 to anyone who's considered

00:39:20.140 beyond the pale

00:39:22.780 by the establishment

00:39:23.620 as Julian Assange was in 2011

00:39:25.200 probably still is.

00:39:27.380 So it's not even just the right,

00:39:30.020 although the right are

00:39:30.580 being particularly affected

00:39:31.460 right now.

00:39:33.020 And actually,

00:39:33.440 that's why

00:39:33.840 the Electronic Frontier Foundation,

00:39:36.480 which is a liberal group,

00:39:37.560 they advocate for liberal causes

00:39:38.740 like Obama's

00:39:39.840 net neutrality regulations.

00:39:41.040 They're concerned by this too.

00:39:42.100 They say that

00:39:42.780 banks and payment processes

00:39:44.620 are becoming

00:39:45.640 de facto internet censors.

00:39:47.900 Well, that's the thing.

00:39:48.520 I mean,

00:39:49.240 anyone who's opened up

00:39:51.060 an account with,

00:39:52.780 let's say, a law firm.

00:39:54.600 I mean,

00:39:54.740 we were doing business

00:39:56.080 in the UK.

00:39:56.860 We just worked

00:39:58.020 with a new law firm

00:39:59.360 to help Tommy Robinson.

00:40:00.660 Our viewers know that.

00:40:01.540 When you open a new account

00:40:03.420 with a law firm,

00:40:04.420 they have lots of

00:40:05.500 anti-money laundering rules

00:40:07.400 and know-your-client rules.

00:40:09.940 So we had to send them

00:40:11.680 our incorporation documents.

00:40:14.700 We had to prove

00:40:15.280 we were legit

00:40:15.980 because they wanted

00:40:17.140 to make sure

00:40:17.880 we weren't money laundering

00:40:19.440 drug money

00:40:20.100 or other proceeds of crime.

00:40:21.580 So I get it.

00:40:22.680 That was not

00:40:23.880 an ideological test.

00:40:25.340 It was to make sure

00:40:25.940 we weren't criminals.

00:40:27.280 And I was fine with that

00:40:28.220 and we do that all the time.

00:40:30.460 The names you've named,

00:40:31.820 Brittany Pettibone,

00:40:32.800 I think our former reporter

00:40:34.260 Faith Goldie

00:40:35.040 was just cut off

00:40:36.440 by PayPal too.

00:40:37.500 She was cut off

00:40:38.020 by PayPal, yes.

00:40:39.640 I mean,

00:40:40.100 I know Faith pretty well

00:40:41.220 and putting aside

00:40:42.260 whatever political comments

00:40:43.940 people might have,

00:40:45.360 she's never committed

00:40:46.220 a crime in her life.

00:40:47.240 She wouldn't hurt a mouse.

00:40:48.880 I mean,

00:40:50.080 that's what,

00:40:50.920 I accept banks

00:40:53.700 and other,

00:40:55.080 you know,

00:40:56.280 credit card facility,

00:40:57.760 whatever,

00:40:58.380 checking against crime

00:40:59.540 or terrorism,

00:41:01.000 you know,

00:41:01.340 for example.

00:41:02.840 But Brittany,

00:41:04.780 Pettibone,

00:41:05.660 Faith,

00:41:06.100 Goldie,

00:41:07.260 they're not even,

00:41:09.020 they're not even

00:41:10.460 five degrees

00:41:11.180 of separation

00:41:11.880 from crime.

00:41:13.420 That's what scares me

00:41:15.000 is this is pure politics

00:41:17.480 and if they can do that

00:41:18.500 to Faith,

00:41:18.940 they can do that to me,

00:41:19.940 they can do that to you

00:41:20.900 and pretty soon

00:41:21.800 you won't be able

00:41:22.580 to open a bank account

00:41:23.400 at all.

00:41:23.680 By the way,

00:41:24.120 Rebel UK was not,

00:41:26.160 no bank would open

00:41:27.160 an account for us

00:41:28.020 when Tommy Robinson

00:41:29.120 worked for us.

00:41:29.740 What do you make of that,

00:41:30.560 Alan?

00:41:31.220 Wow.

00:41:32.160 Wow,

00:41:32.680 that's the big news

00:41:34.060 in itself,

00:41:34.540 frankly.

00:41:34.980 I mean,

00:41:35.580 the way the banks

00:41:37.200 operate is pretty

00:41:37.800 insidious now.

00:41:38.640 I mean,

00:41:38.860 if you look at

00:41:41.240 what they're doing

00:41:41.680 in terms of

00:41:42.200 gun control

00:41:43.000 in America,

00:41:44.540 they're refusing

00:41:45.120 to work with businesses

00:41:46.220 that don't need

00:41:47.040 a range of

00:41:47.540 progressive demands

00:41:48.880 on gun control

00:41:49.560 like the sale

00:41:50.380 of bump stocks

00:41:51.120 and high capacity

00:41:52.080 magazines.

00:41:53.280 So now businesses

00:41:54.860 that are operating

00:41:56.780 legally in the US

00:41:57.660 in line with

00:41:58.640 the Second Amendment,

00:41:59.820 they can't work

00:42:00.880 with some of

00:42:01.220 these big banks.

00:42:02.560 So the way

00:42:04.320 that the financial

00:42:06.180 institutions

00:42:07.140 are being operated

00:42:07.720 at the moment

00:42:08.140 is kind of a way

00:42:08.960 to bypass democracy

00:42:10.200 and bypass constitutions

00:42:11.620 because it's essentially

00:42:12.560 a few executives

00:42:13.320 making a decision

00:42:14.120 to cut people

00:42:15.240 out of the

00:42:15.540 economic system

00:42:16.180 altogether.

00:42:17.780 You know,

00:42:18.540 it's done

00:42:21.120 when it's done

00:42:21.820 through the government,

00:42:22.980 like these money laundering

00:42:23.920 rules I've mentioned

00:42:24.840 and obviously

00:42:25.760 we comply with those.

00:42:26.980 We have a,

00:42:27.580 you know,

00:42:27.820 we're a legitimate company.

00:42:29.260 We have no problem

00:42:30.280 with those rules.

00:42:32.100 That's imposed

00:42:33.060 by the government.

00:42:34.380 But the kind of censorship

00:42:35.520 you have described

00:42:36.820 and by the way,

00:42:37.700 let's put it up

00:42:38.320 on the screen

00:42:38.760 so our viewers

00:42:39.340 can take a look

00:42:39.980 at it once more time.

00:42:41.360 The essay is called

00:42:42.440 Stripe, PayPal, Patreon.

00:42:43.760 The right is being banned

00:42:45.360 from online fundraising.

00:42:46.700 It's an article

00:42:47.080 on Breitbart.com.

00:42:50.080 That is not

00:42:51.000 a governmental decision

00:42:52.140 and so you don't have

00:42:53.060 the checks and balances.

00:42:54.600 When the rules are passed,

00:42:56.120 they're scrutinized

00:42:56.800 in a legislature.

00:42:58.240 They may be subject

00:42:58.980 to public comment

00:42:59.840 and committee

00:43:00.380 and amendments

00:43:00.960 and votes

00:43:01.540 so there's a transparency

00:43:02.860 in what the rules are

00:43:03.820 in the first place

00:43:04.760 and then how the rules

00:43:05.860 are applied.

00:43:07.940 There's the checks

00:43:08.660 and balances

00:43:09.180 in whatever legal

00:43:10.200 procedure is there.

00:43:11.320 I mean,

00:43:11.700 even if you're having

00:43:12.700 a fight,

00:43:13.280 let's say,

00:43:13.600 with Revenue Canada

00:43:15.000 or the IRS,

00:43:16.940 there's checks and balances.

00:43:18.320 You have certain rights

00:43:19.160 and appeals

00:43:20.240 but when you're shut down

00:43:21.760 by a credit card company,

00:43:23.060 PayPal, Patreon, Stripe,

00:43:24.500 there's no process.

00:43:25.660 They just announce it to you

00:43:27.180 and you can go pound sand

00:43:28.780 and if you look

00:43:29.300 at your terms of service,

00:43:31.260 they're written in a way

00:43:32.180 that you really have no rights.

00:43:33.400 They say,

00:43:33.800 take your business elsewhere.

00:43:35.400 I'm,

00:43:35.940 my terror,

00:43:37.100 my great fear,

00:43:38.220 Ellum,

00:43:38.460 is that the censorship

00:43:40.500 of the 21st century

00:43:41.640 will not be done

00:43:42.780 by governments.

00:43:44.140 It'll be done

00:43:44.920 by crony capitalists

00:43:46.520 in league with governments

00:43:47.880 to whom censorship

00:43:49.360 is outsourced

00:43:50.520 as,

00:43:51.800 and there's a quid pro quo

00:43:52.900 favor.

00:43:54.080 PayPal, Stripe,

00:43:54.860 Patreon,

00:43:55.540 Facebook,

00:43:56.000 YouTube,

00:43:56.380 Google

00:43:56.680 will do this censorship

00:43:58.080 for politicians

00:43:58.940 and in return

00:44:00.060 they may get favors

00:44:01.100 whether it's tax treatment

00:44:02.480 or immunity

00:44:03.300 from other things.

00:44:04.580 That's terrifying

00:44:05.420 because it is

00:44:06.160 one big black box.

00:44:07.160 What do you think of that?

00:44:09.720 I totally agree.

00:44:10.960 I think the trend now

00:44:11.820 is for the left

00:44:12.780 to use cooperation.

00:44:13.860 I mean,

00:44:14.000 it's interesting

00:44:14.340 because then you have

00:44:14.760 the left used to be

00:44:15.300 so anti-corporation

00:44:16.300 and anti-capitalist

00:44:17.260 but now cooperation

00:44:18.840 are the great ally

00:44:19.580 of the left.

00:44:20.180 They're using them

00:44:20.700 to enact their policies

00:44:21.520 without winning

00:44:23.440 any form of elections.

00:44:25.740 You mentioned

00:44:26.480 that they'll tell you

00:44:28.520 to take that business

00:44:29.180 elsewhere

00:44:30.140 and that's the only thing

00:44:31.780 a lot of free market

00:44:32.580 libertarians would also say

00:44:33.560 well,

00:44:33.760 just build a competitor

00:44:34.620 to Patreon

00:44:35.040 if you don't like

00:44:35.520 what they're doing

00:44:35.980 but that's exactly

00:44:36.900 what people have done.

00:44:38.560 Lauren Southern

00:44:39.040 made her own

00:44:39.760 fundraising system

00:44:41.860 when she was banned

00:44:42.340 from Patreon

00:44:42.800 and Chuck Johnson

00:44:45.100 made his competitor

00:44:45.900 and there was another

00:44:46.460 competing service

00:44:47.520 called Maker Support

00:44:48.280 which was made

00:44:49.020 as a sort of

00:44:50.120 politically neutral

00:44:51.000 alternative to Patreon

00:44:52.520 and what happened

00:44:54.040 was they

00:44:54.460 striped

00:44:55.840 the payments process

00:44:57.280 initially agreed

00:44:58.840 to do business with

00:44:59.480 and then cut up

00:45:00.040 support entirely.

00:45:01.700 So it's not even possible

00:45:03.400 to build a competitor

00:45:04.460 if you can't

00:45:05.960 keep competing services

00:45:06.900 and you know

00:45:07.340 that goes beyond

00:45:08.320 crowdfunding platforms

00:45:10.080 just any platform

00:45:10.940 if you can't raise money

00:45:11.960 on the internet

00:45:12.520 how are you going to build

00:45:14.680 how are you going to build

00:45:15.440 these competing services?

00:45:17.800 Yeah, you know

00:45:18.180 and we learned a little bit

00:45:19.460 about that about a year ago

00:45:20.460 when our DNS server

00:45:23.780 I didn't even know

00:45:25.460 what that was

00:45:26.000 I still don't even really

00:45:26.940 know what that was

00:45:27.620 that's some deep part

00:45:29.240 of internet structure

00:45:30.520 infrastructure

00:45:31.560 just gave us

00:45:32.980 one day's notice

00:45:33.920 no explanation

00:45:34.680 no reason whatsoever

00:45:35.620 they said

00:45:36.060 we're kicking you off

00:45:37.420 in one day

00:45:37.940 find another DNS server

00:45:39.240 and

00:45:40.840 you know

00:45:43.020 if you can't find

00:45:44.860 another DNS service

00:45:45.740 you're effectively

00:45:46.240 banned from the entire internet

00:45:48.060 Yeah, and what's a DNS server

00:45:50.140 and I mean

00:45:50.520 I had never dealt with them

00:45:51.680 there's so many

00:45:53.100 deep levels

00:45:53.840 of the internet

00:45:55.000 that

00:45:55.800 I know what you're talking about

00:45:57.580 Lauren Southern

00:45:58.060 and Chuck Johnson

00:45:58.720 they tried to set up

00:45:59.780 alternatives

00:46:00.200 but there was always

00:46:01.340 some utility style

00:46:03.220 backbone

00:46:03.960 that they had to deal with

00:46:05.660 and there's so few of those

00:46:07.460 in some cases

00:46:08.340 I mean

00:46:10.400 they truly have a monopoly

00:46:11.580 you can't set up your own

00:46:13.360 I got a question for you

00:46:14.320 today

00:46:14.740 even if you set up

00:46:16.140 a competitor

00:46:17.160 to PayPal

00:46:18.020 or Stripe

00:46:19.040 which are the processes

00:46:20.240 the second level

00:46:21.080 you then have to deal

00:46:21.840 with Visa and MasterCard

00:46:22.840 who have already

00:46:23.420 who have kind of

00:46:24.160 political

00:46:24.740 you've kind of

00:46:25.640 supported people

00:46:26.180 like Julian Assange

00:46:26.780 in the past

00:46:27.320 so there's always

00:46:28.500 one more level

00:46:29.300 you have

00:46:29.620 of gatekeeping

00:46:30.260 you have to go through

00:46:31.320 Yeah, yeah

00:46:32.220 I mean

00:46:32.540 I suppose you could

00:46:33.660 set up a bank

00:46:34.660 itself

00:46:35.360 but that too

00:46:36.480 could be subject

00:46:37.120 to boycotts

00:46:37.940 if people would

00:46:38.440 refuse to trade

00:46:39.220 with it

00:46:39.580 I mean

00:46:40.360 it really is

00:46:41.200 like you're facing

00:46:41.980 economic sanctions

00:46:43.080 but they're not

00:46:44.040 passed by a country

00:46:45.120 they're passed by

00:46:45.940 this oligopoly

00:46:47.240 these plutocrats

00:46:49.560 of the left

00:46:50.480 it's as if

00:46:51.940 they're putting

00:46:52.320 economic sanctions

00:46:53.220 on their enemies

00:46:53.760 I want to ask

00:46:54.380 because I saw

00:46:54.980 a tiny flicker

00:46:56.160 of hope today

00:46:56.720 and we'll put up

00:46:57.640 Trump's tweet

00:46:58.300 this morning

00:46:58.760 we were talking

00:46:59.340 about Jack Dorsey

00:47:01.060 the hard left-wing

00:47:02.460 activist

00:47:03.100 of Twitter

00:47:04.220 and I'm not using

00:47:05.260 that as an insult

00:47:05.960 I'm observing

00:47:06.720 he's a big supporter

00:47:09.080 of the violent

00:47:09.820 street group

00:47:10.960 called Black Lives Matter

00:47:12.140 he has

00:47:13.280 you know

00:47:14.960 he's republished

00:47:16.700 approvingly

00:47:17.940 documents calling

00:47:19.740 for the censorship

00:47:20.500 of the right

00:47:21.180 he's a real extremist

00:47:22.640 and just in the

00:47:24.240 past few days

00:47:24.760 he's been talking

00:47:25.380 about healthy

00:47:26.320 public conversations

00:47:27.540 and that he himself

00:47:28.560 will be in charge

00:47:29.240 of that

00:47:29.540 I see today

00:47:31.180 no one less than

00:47:32.880 Twitter user number

00:47:33.900 one

00:47:34.260 Donald J. Trump

00:47:35.700 tweeted

00:47:36.820 that

00:47:38.100 Twitter's

00:47:39.860 censorship

00:47:40.540 of conservatives

00:47:41.320 is outrageous

00:47:42.080 and a must-end

00:47:43.100 and we'll show

00:47:43.460 that tweet

00:47:43.860 on the screen

00:47:44.480 so he says

00:47:46.660 he's going to do

00:47:47.240 something about it

00:47:47.980 or he might do

00:47:48.840 something about it

00:47:49.420 or he must do

00:47:50.060 something about it

00:47:50.800 do you believe

00:47:52.140 that Donald Trump

00:47:53.360 will actually

00:47:54.500 try to

00:47:56.620 make

00:47:57.380 the internet

00:47:58.820 neutral

00:48:00.300 in terms of

00:48:01.860 its partisanship

00:48:03.080 do you think

00:48:03.820 he will actually

00:48:04.740 be a trust buster

00:48:06.280 like Teddy Roosevelt

00:48:07.540 was to the oil companies

00:48:09.460 a century ago

00:48:10.220 do you think

00:48:10.740 Donald Trump

00:48:11.660 might bust up

00:48:12.500 these internet trusts too

00:48:14.180 well I certainly hope so

00:48:17.080 the problem is

00:48:18.420 he doesn't have

00:48:18.820 a lot of time

00:48:19.360 for like two or three months

00:48:20.740 before the midterm elections

00:48:22.480 and I don't think

00:48:24.220 you can bring in

00:48:24.700 regulation

00:48:25.140 and new legislation

00:48:27.180 so quickly

00:48:28.780 and get past

00:48:29.400 all the free market

00:48:30.200 ideologues

00:48:31.360 and the Republican Party

00:48:32.640 before the election

00:48:33.600 so if the tech companies

00:48:35.200 want to tip the scales

00:48:36.560 for the upcoming election

00:48:37.700 I think they're probably

00:48:38.840 going to be able

00:48:39.460 to do it

00:48:40.360 and there's not much

00:48:41.240 that can be done

00:48:43.060 to stop them

00:48:43.620 I think

00:48:44.020 after the election

00:48:44.960 and looking at the results

00:48:46.380 of the election

00:48:46.880 and how social media

00:48:49.700 plays into that

00:48:50.440 I think we'll see

00:48:51.340 probably start to see

00:48:52.360 a lot more pressure

00:48:53.080 but I certainly think

00:48:55.160 but Donald Trump's tweet

00:48:56.100 was you know

00:48:56.420 very positive

00:48:56.900 and I certainly think

00:48:57.760 that Republicans

00:48:58.240 if they want to

00:48:59.900 compete on a level

00:49:01.120 playing field

00:49:01.760 on the internet

00:49:02.340 they're going to have

00:49:04.080 to get past

00:49:05.080 this fear

00:49:05.720 of regulating

00:49:06.460 private businesses

00:49:07.220 because you know

00:49:08.660 these monopolies

00:49:09.260 have grown such a

00:49:10.300 have accumulated

00:49:11.580 such a vast amount

00:49:12.500 of power

00:49:12.980 over the political process

00:49:14.220 and such a vast amount

00:49:16.900 of power

00:49:17.160 to curtail

00:49:17.580 you know

00:49:17.880 First Amendment rights

00:49:18.780 and Second Amendment rights

00:49:19.620 for ordinary Americans

00:49:20.420 it's a going to come down

00:49:23.540 to regulation

00:49:24.140 I think

00:49:24.500 and I think Republicans

00:49:25.220 will have to get over

00:49:26.220 their misgivings

00:49:28.580 about that

00:49:29.100 yeah

00:49:29.560 as I always say

00:49:30.760 if Donald Trump

00:49:31.340 doesn't bust up

00:49:32.480 these tech titans

00:49:33.880 they'll bust him up

00:49:35.060 I think it's a race

00:49:35.980 Alan it's great to see you again

00:49:37.620 thanks very much

00:49:38.180 for spending the time

00:49:38.860 with us

00:49:39.220 alright

00:49:41.580 well we'll keep in touch

00:49:43.360 for sure

00:49:43.720 the most important beat

00:49:44.940 in the world

00:49:45.860 I put it to you

00:49:46.680 is the political activities

00:49:48.680 of the internet giant

00:49:50.480 stay with us

00:49:51.300 more ahead on The Rebel

00:49:52.720 Hey welcome back

00:50:04.760 your viewer feedback

00:50:05.860 on my monologue yesterday

00:50:06.940 about ISIS

00:50:07.720 claiming responsibility

00:50:09.140 for the Toronto shooter

00:50:10.080 Billy writes

00:50:10.760 Peter writes

00:50:32.560 one has to wonder

00:50:33.860 why there is a segment

00:50:34.640 of Western nations

00:50:35.540 that is desperate

00:50:36.160 even frantically desperate

00:50:37.840 to deny any Islamic connection

00:50:39.540 to the many terror attacks

00:50:40.680 what is their motive

00:50:41.780 well not just that

00:50:43.840 but to turn evil into good

00:50:45.680 I see the National Post

00:50:46.680 published an op-ed

00:50:48.020 by Terry Glavin

00:50:48.800 who says

00:50:49.180 we should rally around

00:50:50.580 the parents of

00:50:51.900 Faisal Hussain

00:50:53.840 the National Post

00:50:55.200 published an op-ed

00:50:56.140 saying we all have to

00:50:57.300 get together

00:50:57.780 and support

00:50:58.380 the terrorist parents

00:51:00.820 what

00:51:02.460 what

00:51:03.320 and by the way

00:51:04.680 they're awful parents

00:51:05.420 besides having

00:51:06.860 a terrorist as a son

00:51:07.960 their other son

00:51:09.000 is a drug dealer

00:51:10.060 who's actually in a coma

00:51:11.300 right now

00:51:11.700 for a drug overdose

00:51:12.520 and if the report

00:51:14.260 I read this morning

00:51:14.800 was accurate

00:51:15.220 that's where Faisal

00:51:16.420 got the gun from

00:51:17.120 don't tell me

00:51:17.740 the parents

00:51:18.440 didn't know

00:51:18.880 what was going on

00:51:19.500 in the family

00:51:20.080 yes sorry

00:51:22.440 National Post

00:51:23.500 I used to know you

00:51:24.300 I used to work for you

00:51:25.120 no I don't support

00:51:26.840 this family

00:51:27.220 not one bit

00:51:27.740 they're a terrorist family

00:51:29.200 frankly I think

00:51:30.220 they should be deported

00:51:30.900 if it's possible

00:51:31.640 Paul writes

00:51:33.680 that demented

00:51:35.080 high school teacher

00:51:35.820 is the face

00:51:36.380 of leftist insanity

00:51:37.440 you're talking about

00:51:40.040 when our own

00:51:41.320 David Menzies

00:51:42.120 went to Danforth

00:51:43.340 to interview people

00:51:44.160 and I don't know

00:51:44.640 if you saw the whole video

00:51:46.000 you can watch all

00:51:46.840 eight minutes of it

00:51:47.560 on YouTube

00:51:47.920 it's a viral video

00:51:48.820 almost 100,000 people

00:51:50.200 have watched it already

00:51:50.920 David just goes there

00:51:51.980 very gently

00:51:52.620 to talk to people

00:51:53.840 about how great

00:51:54.420 the Danforth is

00:51:55.300 and what they think

00:51:55.860 of the neighborhood

00:51:56.380 and this crazed

00:51:58.280 high school teacher

00:51:59.220 comes forward

00:51:59.920 and starts shouting

00:52:01.240 at David

00:52:01.800 and calling him

00:52:02.920 a fascist

00:52:03.560 and a racist

00:52:04.040 and David just kept

00:52:04.960 really calm

00:52:05.500 the whole time

00:52:06.060 it was quite

00:52:06.920 it was quite

00:52:08.000 a telling thing

00:52:09.200 unbelievable

00:52:10.420 and you know

00:52:11.340 I was so impressed

00:52:12.080 with David

00:52:12.500 just staying calm

00:52:13.780 despite this crazy woman

00:52:15.100 being shouting

00:52:15.720 shouting at him

00:52:16.560 for 10 minutes

00:52:17.060 when she boasted

00:52:18.520 that she's a high school student

00:52:19.800 and that's how

00:52:20.420 that's how she rolls

00:52:21.440 in high school

00:52:22.160 I thought

00:52:23.000 absolutely she

00:52:25.540 I believe her

00:52:26.360 because in Toronto

00:52:27.740 and in many schools

00:52:29.400 across North America

00:52:30.240 frankly

00:52:30.680 teachers have become

00:52:31.980 weaponized

00:52:32.740 and politicized

00:52:33.580 and they use their classrooms

00:52:34.620 as political petri dishes

00:52:36.220 that's just awful

00:52:36.960 well that's our show

00:52:38.640 for today

00:52:39.240 until tomorrow

00:52:40.120 on behalf of all of us

00:52:41.440 here at Rebel World

00:52:42.080 Headquarters

00:52:42.580 good night

00:52:43.060 and keep fighting

00:52:44.400 for freedom

00:52:44.900 my Rib Woo

00:52:50.280 I think

00:52:50.680 I think

00:52:51.220 it's impossible

00:52:52.320 to all of us

00:52:52.800 in a positive perspective

00:52:54.300 and seeing

00:52:54.740 as a result

00:52:56.080 when the

00:52:57.160 House

00:52:58.460 Relic

00:53:03.000 on this

00:53:03.560 the

00:53:04.520 public

00:53:09.240 harm

Rebel News Podcast - July 27, 2018

Trump gets EU to cut tariffs. Why can't Canada get a trade deal with Trump, too？

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