Rebel News Podcast - Trump throws support behind democracy protesters in Hong Kong — and the Rebel has sent a reporter there

00:00:00.000 Hey Rebels, I have a change of pace today.

00:00:03.020 We've certainly talked about a lot of things

00:00:04.320 over the months, but today I talk about Hong Kong

00:00:06.400 because I have an affection for the Hong Kong people,

00:00:09.960 also called Hong Kongers or Hong Kongese.

00:00:13.240 I'm affectionate, how can you not be affectionate

00:00:15.240 for a people that have built themselves up

00:00:17.400 such a mighty city economically,

00:00:19.740 and you know what?

00:00:21.040 They love freedom.

00:00:22.400 And how can you not love someone who loves freedom

00:00:25.040 and wants to fight for it

00:00:26.340 against the mightiest tyranny in the world, China?

00:00:28.680 I have an affection for them

00:00:30.380 and we've decided to send a journalist to Hong Kong.

00:00:34.660 In fact, he landed today

00:00:35.780 and I'm very excited to tell you

00:00:37.580 where you can get his reports.

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00:01:09.200 All right, without further ado,

00:01:10.520 here's my comments on the Hong Kong protests

00:01:13.600 and the exciting news of our reporter

00:01:15.600 who just touched down there.

00:01:17.000 Tonight, Donald Trump throws his moral support

00:01:24.660 behind the democracy protesters in Hong Kong

00:01:27.500 and the rebel has sent a reporter there.

00:01:30.460 It's August 16th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:35.160 Why should others go to jail

00:01:36.740 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:38.940 There's 8,500 customers here

00:01:41.000 and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:43.020 The only thing I have to say to the government,

00:01:45.420 the wire publisher,

00:01:46.360 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:54.180 I've been watching the Hong Kong protests

00:01:56.280 out of the corner of my eye for months.

00:01:58.560 We talked with our dear friend Gordon Chang

00:02:00.600 about it last week.

00:02:01.700 Gordon made an interesting historical point.

00:02:05.280 In many times in Chinese history,

00:02:07.300 including the last imperial dynasty,

00:02:09.360 they unravel from the outside in.

00:02:12.100 So when you have unrest in the periphery,

00:02:14.800 that can eventually move into the center itself.

00:02:18.520 And then that's perhaps what we're seeing right now

00:02:20.580 in Hong Kong.

00:02:21.780 You know, you have the unrest, of course,

00:02:23.980 in the Northwest where the Uyghurs live.

00:02:26.760 So this could very well be the beginning

00:02:29.060 of the end of communism.

00:02:31.580 Might take a long time, Ezra,

00:02:33.400 but this is very well maybe the process

00:02:36.380 and how it gets started.

00:02:37.420 I thought that was very dramatic.

00:02:40.240 Wouldn't it be amazing

00:02:41.140 if the spirit of democracy were to come to China

00:02:44.260 from Hong Kong?

00:02:46.400 It's been a few years since I was in that amazing city,

00:02:48.680 but I still remember being struck

00:02:50.340 by how proud the Hong Kongese are.

00:02:52.980 Some people say Hong Kongers or Hong Kong people.

00:02:55.880 How proud they are of their British inheritance.

00:02:59.180 And what I mean by that is

00:03:00.100 they value the rule of law,

00:03:01.480 the independent courts,

00:03:02.680 property rights,

00:03:03.520 the sanctity of contracts,

00:03:04.780 habeas corpus,

00:03:06.240 innocent until proven guilty,

00:03:07.900 a non-partisan public service,

00:03:09.620 non-partisan police.

00:03:11.780 You know, that sort of thing.

00:03:13.580 I was struck by how Hong Kongese 0.56

00:03:15.280 had a distinct identity,

00:03:17.720 distinct from China,

00:03:19.120 based on those things.

00:03:20.300 As in, it was a point of pride for them culturally.

00:03:23.620 That they had an advantage.

00:03:25.800 That luck, but not really luck,

00:03:27.560 that heritage,

00:03:28.640 as opposed to the misery of communist China.

00:03:31.780 And they wanted to make sure

00:03:33.120 they didn't lose that inheritance

00:03:35.460 when the merger with Hong Kong

00:03:36.820 was given back to China 22 years ago.

00:03:39.560 I see a few traces of that culture in Taiwan, too.

00:03:43.120 When I went there,

00:03:44.000 oh, I don't know,

00:03:44.420 about a dozen years ago,

00:03:45.720 I saw there was an attempt in Taiwan

00:03:48.980 to really forge a different cultural

00:03:51.580 and even ethnic national identity

00:03:54.260 compared to that of communist mainland China.

00:03:57.060 They believe they are different in Taiwan.

00:03:58.880 They don't want to just be absorbed

00:04:00.900 as another little province

00:04:02.180 in a vast Chinese communist empire.

00:04:05.520 Anyways, the world has been fairly silent

00:04:08.340 on these protests.

00:04:09.900 I think so.

00:04:11.160 Even as two million Hong Kongese

00:04:13.020 took to the streets,

00:04:14.660 do you realize what a staggering number that is

00:04:16.640 for a city of just seven and a half million people?

00:04:18.780 I don't know if that's ever happened before in history.

00:04:22.080 I can't think of a political protest anywhere,

00:04:24.340 in any country,

00:04:25.080 in any moment in time that is larger

00:04:27.520 or at least larger proportionately.

00:04:29.440 Now, the Egyptian uprising

00:04:31.020 against the Muslim Brotherhood dictator,

00:04:32.980 Mohammed Morsi,

00:04:34.520 alleged to have had 14 million protesters,

00:04:38.680 but that was across the whole country,

00:04:40.480 a country of 100 million people.

00:04:42.780 And I'm a little skeptical of it.

00:04:44.640 Perhaps that is as impressive

00:04:46.320 as what Hong Kong has done.

00:04:48.200 But these Hong Kong protests

00:04:49.680 seem to me to be qualitatively different

00:04:52.640 than what happened in Egypt a few years back.

00:04:55.400 They're so politically coherent,

00:04:57.640 these Hong Kong protests.

00:04:58.820 They're so specific.

00:05:00.480 They want to preserve freedoms in Hong Kong

00:05:02.880 that China is trying to take away

00:05:04.280 through particular laws

00:05:05.840 that attack the rule of law

00:05:07.300 and the independence of the courts

00:05:08.280 and the independence of the police.

00:05:09.620 The Egyptian protests,

00:05:10.980 they had a general economic theme too.

00:05:12.980 Morsi had taken the country

00:05:14.400 to the brink of starvation, frankly,

00:05:16.700 and abject poverty.

00:05:19.180 Okay, now both protests were impressive, yes.

00:05:21.340 But I think Hong Kong's

00:05:23.100 is more impressive to me.

00:05:24.580 And here's why.

00:05:25.660 Because it's explicitly about freedom,

00:05:29.860 not just about kicking out

00:05:31.180 a rogue dictator like Morsi.

00:05:33.720 I mean, Hong Kong geese

00:05:34.580 are actually flying American flags

00:05:36.280 and singing the American anthem

00:05:37.940 because that's their symbol of freedom.

00:05:39.900 And also, they want America's attention,

00:05:41.900 which it hadn't really had yet.

00:05:44.720 Which is another thing I find interesting.

00:05:46.520 Over the past 20 years,

00:05:47.560 in the perpetual wars that followed 9-11,

00:05:50.120 wars that still endure,

00:05:51.880 there are still U.S. troops

00:05:53.020 in Afghanistan and Iraq today

00:05:54.600 and throughout the Middle East.

00:05:56.980 Just last week, I saw the sad headline,

00:05:58.800 another Marine died in Iraq.

00:06:00.640 What's America still doing in Iraq?

00:06:02.800 Don't say building democracy, please.

00:06:05.380 Trying to convince people to love freedom?

00:06:07.940 Does it work that way?

00:06:10.440 I don't know.

00:06:11.080 I think you have to have a cultural history,

00:06:12.700 a national memory of freedom

00:06:14.300 to make it stick.

00:06:15.380 Hong Kong had the great advantage

00:06:17.720 centuries under the British.

00:06:20.980 Taiwan and Korea show you can learn that.

00:06:23.700 You can make freedom part of your culture,

00:06:26.280 but it takes some time

00:06:27.700 and you have to have some desire for it.

00:06:30.180 Have you seen any evidence of that desire

00:06:32.160 in Iraq or Afghanistan

00:06:33.640 or any other godforsaken place

00:06:35.480 where Americans and Canadians have died?

00:06:37.540 For what?

00:06:38.260 Did our latest Canadian Forces mission in Mali,

00:06:40.740 a place I challenge you to find on a map unaided,

00:06:44.920 is Mali going to suddenly turn

00:06:46.680 into a thriving democracy?

00:06:48.800 Thank God no Canadian has died there yet,

00:06:51.020 as far as I know.

00:06:52.840 Compare that to Hong Kong,

00:06:54.240 a people who desperately want freedom,

00:06:56.180 who love it,

00:06:56.840 who are there already,

00:06:58.200 and they're standing up

00:06:59.080 to the world's biggest tyrant.

00:07:00.560 I'm terrified that the beautiful,

00:07:02.060 bustling, booming city

00:07:03.260 will be Tiananmen.

00:07:05.320 You know what I mean.

00:07:07.580 We saw a few days ago footage

00:07:09.040 released by the Chinese military

00:07:10.200 of huge convoys of troops

00:07:13.100 massing just across the border

00:07:14.660 from Hong Kong in the city of Shenzhen.

00:07:18.540 Are they really going to roll

00:07:21.260 those armored personnel carriers

00:07:24.140 into Hong Kong and massacre people?

00:07:26.840 Because that's what it would be.

00:07:28.700 Because, of course,

00:07:29.140 the Hong Kongese have many freedoms,

00:07:31.020 but the right to be armed

00:07:31.860 is not one of their freedoms,

00:07:33.060 which means all they have

00:07:34.020 are chants and flags, I'm afraid,

00:07:36.940 and their own bodies.

00:07:39.040 And China, by the way, 0.85

00:07:40.620 is high-tech these days

00:07:41.660 using facial recognition software

00:07:44.160 to film every single protester,

00:07:45.640 thousands of them,

00:07:46.480 hundreds of thousands,

00:07:47.380 and to quickly identify them

00:07:48.620 from databases of their photos.

00:07:50.740 Protesters cover their faces

00:07:51.940 with masks or use lasers,

00:07:53.800 which is what you can see here.

00:07:56.380 Lasers against the government cameras.

00:07:57.840 I don't know if it works.

00:07:59.740 The government's pretty high-tech.

00:08:00.960 They track the use of apps

00:08:03.180 on cell phones.

00:08:03.940 They know who's down there.

00:08:05.420 Now, the Hong Kongese

00:08:06.280 are very sophisticated,

00:08:07.060 but so is China,

00:08:08.040 thanks to the full cooperation

00:08:09.820 of Google and other

00:08:10.720 Western tech companies,

00:08:11.720 only too happy

00:08:12.360 to sell their services,

00:08:13.580 just like IBM sold

00:08:14.600 their proto-computers,

00:08:16.400 their punch card machines,

00:08:17.460 to Nazi Germany.

00:08:18.760 Let me show you

00:08:19.600 what that facial recognition

00:08:21.600 software does.

00:08:24.600 Top accounting firms

00:08:25.920 urged to fire

00:08:27.120 pro-ride employees

00:08:28.280 despite distancing themselves

00:08:29.560 from statement

00:08:30.600 calling for release

00:08:31.580 of radical protesters.

00:08:33.260 So let me explain

00:08:33.980 what happened here.

00:08:34.480 Huge protests,

00:08:36.280 two million Hong Kongese,

00:08:37.280 some employees

00:08:38.040 at Western firms

00:08:39.520 in Hong Kong

00:08:40.180 dared to sign a letter

00:08:41.440 for freedom.

00:08:43.840 China, in retaliation, 0.71

00:08:45.460 threatened the companies

00:08:46.860 themselves.

00:08:48.100 Here's a tweet

00:08:48.640 from a Chinese communist

00:08:49.700 propaganda page

00:08:50.580 called Global Time.

00:08:53.420 Look at what China did 0.98

00:08:56.400 to the mighty airline

00:08:57.900 Cathay Pacific,

00:08:58.820 regarded as one of the

00:08:59.540 finest airlines

00:09:00.820 in the world.

00:09:01.580 Cathay Pacific announced

00:09:04.460 the resignation

00:09:05.160 of two executives

00:09:06.160 on Friday,

00:09:06.980 including CEO

00:09:07.920 Rupert Hogg

00:09:09.220 and Chief Customer

00:09:10.060 and Commercial Officer

00:09:10.780 Paul Liu.

00:09:12.340 The reshuffle comes

00:09:13.100 amid criticism

00:09:13.840 of the airline

00:09:14.320 due to its lukewarm attitude

00:09:15.800 in drawing a line

00:09:16.960 with its radical employees

00:09:18.880 in Hong Kong.

00:09:19.860 Remember,

00:09:20.240 this is a Chinese propaganda

00:09:21.980 outlet I was quoting

00:09:22.700 from there.

00:09:23.240 So by radical,

00:09:24.780 they mean that a couple

00:09:25.700 of Cathay Pacific employees

00:09:26.980 are amongst the two million

00:09:28.480 Hong Kongese

00:09:29.180 supporting freedom.

00:09:29.940 And they actually pushed out

00:09:31.440 the CEO of Cathay Pacific,

00:09:33.060 a mighty airline.

00:09:33.820 Let me read another tweet

00:09:34.580 from the same Global Times.

00:09:35.940 This is an English language

00:09:36.860 propaganda page

00:09:37.880 for the Communist Party.

00:09:39.040 Cathay Pacific's chairman,

00:09:40.480 John Robert Slosar,

00:09:42.280 said the reshuffle

00:09:43.380 was in response

00:09:44.300 to recent events

00:09:45.020 that, get this,

00:09:46.140 have questioned

00:09:46.940 its commitment

00:09:48.000 to flight safety,

00:09:50.940 which put pressure

00:09:51.900 on its reputation,

00:09:54.400 stressing the airline

00:09:56.200 fully supports

00:09:56.980 the basic law

00:09:57.560 and one country,

00:09:58.120 two systems principle.

00:09:59.080 Did you catch that?

00:10:00.980 The Chinese communists said,

00:10:02.480 hey, nice airline

00:10:03.580 you got there,

00:10:04.260 Cathay Pacific.

00:10:05.240 Shame if anything

00:10:06.040 were to happen to it.

00:10:06.840 Oh, and by the way,

00:10:07.780 all those democracy

00:10:08.520 protesters you've seen,

00:10:09.840 we've figured it out

00:10:10.960 that democracy

00:10:11.880 makes your airline unsafe.

00:10:15.060 You're not flying safely.

00:10:16.960 You're not committed

00:10:17.540 to flight safety.

00:10:18.320 That's their language.

00:10:20.140 So either you fire

00:10:21.300 your employees

00:10:21.980 and you fire your CEO

00:10:23.880 and you fire anyone else

00:10:25.600 we tell you to fire,

00:10:26.520 or wouldn't it be a shame

00:10:28.520 if you can't fly

00:10:29.260 into China anymore,

00:10:30.520 which would be tough

00:10:31.420 given that Cathay Pacific

00:10:32.400 is based in China

00:10:33.960 in Hong Kong.

00:10:36.380 Obviously, Jeff Bezos

00:10:37.480 of Amazon.com

00:10:39.100 and The Washington Post,

00:10:40.120 obviously,

00:10:41.080 he caved immediately

00:10:42.140 to Beijing too.

00:10:43.160 Look at this one.

00:10:43.840 This is another tweet

00:10:44.800 from that same propaganda

00:10:45.900 outlet, Global Times.

00:10:47.180 Amazon said

00:10:48.280 it has always accepted

00:10:49.540 and respected

00:10:50.300 the one country,

00:10:51.480 two systems policy

00:10:52.420 and complied with local laws

00:10:53.980 when doing business

00:10:54.720 across the world

00:10:55.540 after it was found,

00:10:56.740 uh-oh,

00:10:57.220 you know what they did?

00:10:58.300 Selling t-shirts

00:10:59.300 with images and slogans

00:11:01.160 supporting violent protests

00:11:03.260 and secessionist movement

00:11:04.880 in Hong Kong.

00:11:05.900 But look at that.

00:11:06.520 Do you see those shirts there?

00:11:08.260 These are the actual shirts.

00:11:09.380 Do you see what they say?

00:11:10.540 Free Hong Kong,

00:11:11.520 democracy now.

00:11:12.120 That's all they say.

00:11:13.420 That's it.

00:11:14.660 But according to Beijing,

00:11:15.600 that's violent.

00:11:17.200 The word freedom is violent.

00:11:18.740 So Amazon was pressured

00:11:19.820 and they took the pressure

00:11:21.540 of just a gentle breeze

00:11:23.020 to have that

00:11:24.040 Trump-hating leftist

00:11:25.520 Jeff Bezos

00:11:26.080 bow down to Beijing,

00:11:27.120 didn't he?

00:11:27.580 He couldn't do it fast enough.

00:11:30.040 Look at this crazy stuff again.

00:11:31.300 This is from China's

00:11:32.100 official English language

00:11:33.380 foreign propaganda channel.

00:11:35.920 Strengthening ideological

00:11:37.000 and political courses

00:11:38.080 for the youth

00:11:38.800 is more urgent

00:11:39.920 and relevant

00:11:40.500 given the current

00:11:41.480 international situation

00:11:42.540 and current chaos

00:11:43.740 in Hong Kong,

00:11:44.700 say observers.

00:11:46.360 Huh.

00:11:47.280 Gordon Chang was right.

00:11:48.080 The virus of freedom

00:11:48.860 could well spread

00:11:49.940 into China.

00:11:50.920 Here's hoping.

00:11:52.480 Well, speaking of tweets,

00:11:53.540 the tweeter-in-chief

00:11:54.440 threw a few bombshells,

00:11:56.060 rhetorical bombshells,

00:11:57.200 into the mix.

00:11:58.720 Let me quote Trump.

00:12:00.920 I know President Xi

00:12:02.420 of China very well.

00:12:04.080 He is a great leader

00:12:05.700 who very much

00:12:07.040 has the respect

00:12:08.780 of his people.

00:12:09.560 I can't say that

00:12:10.440 without chuckling.

00:12:11.760 He is also a good man

00:12:12.980 in a tough business.

00:12:14.320 You know,

00:12:14.480 it's tough being a dictator.

00:12:15.520 No one thinks

00:12:17.180 about how tough it is.

00:12:19.400 And then look at this.

00:12:20.900 I have zero doubt

00:12:22.100 that if President Xi

00:12:23.180 wants to quickly

00:12:24.160 and humanely

00:12:24.840 solve the Hong Kong problem,

00:12:26.380 he can do it.

00:12:27.440 Personal meeting?

00:12:29.080 Wow.

00:12:29.880 Look at that.

00:12:30.380 It's like how he used Twitter

00:12:31.460 to box in Kim Jong-un.

00:12:33.780 Flattery and praise,

00:12:35.720 but just coming out

00:12:36.540 and saying pretty clearly,

00:12:37.360 don't touch those

00:12:38.060 protesters violently.

00:12:39.320 Got to be humane.

00:12:40.480 And then,

00:12:40.980 Trump followed up

00:12:41.600 a day later.

00:12:42.200 He said this.

00:12:43.380 If President Xi

00:12:44.340 would meet directly

00:12:45.080 and personally

00:12:45.540 with the protesters,

00:12:46.780 there would be a happy

00:12:47.460 and enlightened ending

00:12:48.660 to the Hong Kong problem.

00:12:50.180 I have no doubt.

00:12:51.120 I love his use of enlightened.

00:12:52.580 That's a Chinese feeling 0.99

00:12:54.280 to that word.

00:12:55.120 Now,

00:12:55.300 I don't know

00:12:55.860 what the likelihood

00:12:56.480 of Xi meeting

00:12:57.900 with the protesters is.

00:12:59.040 I'd say it's about

00:13:00.360 one in a billion gazillion.

00:13:04.820 Probably not that high.

00:13:05.860 It's literally impossible.

00:13:06.960 Imagine the precedent

00:13:08.140 that would set in China.

00:13:08.960 If you protested

00:13:10.240 against a dictator,

00:13:11.380 the dictator might actually

00:13:12.640 give you a meeting

00:13:13.980 in return.

00:13:14.520 Imagine what that would do

00:13:15.220 across China,

00:13:15.880 from Tibet

00:13:16.300 to the Uyghur homeland

00:13:17.340 of Xinjiang

00:13:17.880 to people upset

00:13:18.580 with mere corruption

00:13:19.660 and police abuse

00:13:20.400 to just plain old people

00:13:21.960 who want freedom.

00:13:23.340 No, no.

00:13:23.900 Trump was making

00:13:24.580 an impossible suggestion,

00:13:26.240 but it put Xi

00:13:27.340 on the spot,

00:13:27.900 didn't it?

00:13:28.980 All the while,

00:13:30.420 Trump's smart.

00:13:31.120 He's smarter than you think.

00:13:32.760 He's jacking up tariffs

00:13:33.860 on Chinese products

00:13:34.740 by hundreds of billions

00:13:35.580 of dollars.

00:13:35.980 I think China's actually

00:13:37.280 on the verge

00:13:37.880 of its first recession

00:13:39.240 in a generation.

00:13:40.600 They're terrified.

00:13:41.700 They're running out

00:13:42.200 of foreign currency reserves.

00:13:43.780 Factories are actually

00:13:44.760 leaving China

00:13:45.680 so they don't have

00:13:46.580 to pay Trump's tariffs.

00:13:47.600 Trump is jubilant about it.

00:13:49.360 He brags about it.

00:13:50.360 Here's another Trump tweet.

00:13:51.500 If they don't get

00:13:52.060 this trade deal

00:13:52.640 with the U.S. done,

00:13:53.540 China could have 0.92

00:13:54.020 its first recession

00:13:54.720 or worse in years.

00:13:56.140 There's disinvestment

00:13:57.560 in China right now.

00:13:59.420 Disinvestment.

00:14:00.480 And what does China

00:14:01.320 have in return?

00:14:02.200 How is China

00:14:02.680 going to fight back?

00:14:03.460 Well, other than

00:14:04.140 with more propaganda

00:14:05.080 in their schools,

00:14:06.500 here's the big plan again

00:14:07.800 according to the Global Times.

00:14:09.540 They say,

00:14:09.920 if China plays the card

00:14:13.400 of the holiday economy

00:14:15.520 to hit back on the U.S.

00:14:17.520 in the trade war,

00:14:18.900 Americans may have 0.68

00:14:20.140 an unforgettable Christmas

00:14:22.200 this year

00:14:22.760 with price hikes

00:14:25.220 for Christmas trees,

00:14:26.440 plastic reindeer,

00:14:27.480 glittery wreaths,

00:14:28.240 and even Bibles.

00:14:30.760 Yeah, that's not quite

00:14:32.620 as scary as I think

00:14:33.760 they think it is.

00:14:34.700 I mean,

00:14:35.500 either plastic

00:14:36.280 Christmas ornaments

00:14:37.200 and other junk

00:14:38.400 will be a dollar

00:14:39.620 more expensive

00:14:40.260 at the dollar store

00:14:41.600 or Americans

00:14:42.520 will just have to

00:14:43.340 make those little 0.98

00:14:44.740 trinkets in America.

00:14:45.600 I'm not putting them down.

00:14:46.420 I'm just saying,

00:14:47.140 come on,

00:14:47.620 I don't think that's

00:14:48.280 going to bring America 0.97

00:14:48.780 to its knees.

00:14:50.380 What a showdown

00:14:51.380 we see here.

00:14:52.020 Trump is winning

00:14:52.680 economically,

00:14:54.460 politically,

00:14:55.000 and who knows,

00:14:55.640 maybe he is planting

00:14:56.800 the seed of democracy

00:14:57.700 in China.

00:14:58.180 He's not planting it.

00:14:59.140 That's too active.

00:15:00.380 But it's already planted.

00:15:02.140 Two million Hong Kongese

00:15:03.420 planted it there.

00:15:04.580 But Trump is encouraging it

00:15:06.080 as leaders of the West

00:15:07.500 are supposed to do.

00:15:08.600 Last pair of Trump tweets,

00:15:09.660 I promise.

00:15:10.260 Look at this.

00:15:11.740 Good things were stated

00:15:12.940 on the call with China

00:15:14.100 the other day.

00:15:15.000 They are eating the tariffs

00:15:16.340 with the devaluation

00:15:17.540 of their currency

00:15:18.100 and pouring money

00:15:19.080 into their system.

00:15:20.160 The American consumer

00:15:21.020 is fine with or without

00:15:22.060 the September date,

00:15:23.200 but much good will come

00:15:24.640 from the short

00:15:25.520 deferral to December.

00:15:28.560 It actually helps

00:15:29.780 China more than us, 0.97

00:15:30.640 but will be reciprocated.

00:15:32.200 Millions of jobs

00:15:33.000 are being lost in China

00:15:34.100 to other non-tariffed countries.

00:15:36.640 And then look at this.

00:15:38.160 Thousands of companies

00:15:39.060 are leaving.

00:15:40.540 Of course China wants 0.87

00:15:41.440 to make a deal.

00:15:43.020 Let them work humanely

00:15:44.620 with Hong Kong first.

00:15:48.220 Wow.

00:15:48.700 I think what that means

00:15:51.980 is Donald Trump's

00:15:53.800 actually saying,

00:15:54.640 I mean,

00:15:54.780 you saw for yourself

00:15:55.400 that he wants China

00:15:56.820 to be humane.

00:15:57.600 He's using that word.

00:15:58.280 I guess that has

00:15:58.800 a special meaning in China.

00:16:00.200 He wants China 0.98

00:16:00.600 to be humane

00:16:01.380 with Hong Kong

00:16:02.140 before he does

00:16:04.220 any trade deal with them.

00:16:06.400 Humanity first, 0.99

00:16:07.200 civil rights first,

00:16:07.940 trade deal second.

00:16:08.920 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:16:10.080 Aren't the woke leftists

00:16:12.200 supposed to be the ones

00:16:13.540 who care about human rights

00:16:15.000 and put principles first?

00:16:17.240 Yet it's Trump who did,

00:16:19.440 not Merkel or Trudeau.

00:16:21.440 Trump,

00:16:22.240 who cares about freedom

00:16:24.200 for Hong Kongese

00:16:25.660 and who knows?

00:16:27.480 Who knows?

00:16:28.120 Maybe his moral pressure

00:16:29.120 will do more for freedom

00:16:30.420 than all the costly wars

00:16:32.820 of the past 20 years.

00:16:35.100 And you know what?

00:16:36.140 I'm curious about the story.

00:16:37.600 Are you?

00:16:38.340 I hope you are.

00:16:39.120 And I'm hopeful.

00:16:40.060 I hope you are too.

00:16:41.020 And I want the real news.

00:16:42.740 And obviously I don't trust

00:16:43.740 the state broadcaster,

00:16:45.220 either China's state broadcaster

00:16:46.940 or Canada's state broadcaster.

00:16:49.000 So you know what we're going to do?

00:16:50.160 We're going to send

00:16:50.940 our own reporter to China

00:16:54.020 in fact he just landed

00:16:55.760 in Hong Kong.

00:16:57.960 Our friend Avi Yamini,

00:16:59.280 the energetic Australian

00:17:01.440 who I've gotten to know

00:17:02.240 a little bit over the past year

00:17:03.240 or two in support of

00:17:04.220 Tommy Robinson,

00:17:05.160 he's a big Tommy fan too.

00:17:07.180 I've seen his journalism

00:17:08.140 both in the UK

00:17:09.680 and in Australia.

00:17:11.080 You know, he's really good.

00:17:12.700 He's getting really good.

00:17:13.580 He's got courage.

00:17:15.240 He's not afraid of a bit

00:17:16.040 of tear gas.

00:17:17.060 He's got a great sense of humor.

00:17:18.020 He's really funny.

00:17:19.500 And he cares about freedom.

00:17:21.220 I think he's a good fit

00:17:22.040 for this project.

00:17:22.600 It's just a one-off project.

00:17:25.100 He's landed in Hong Kong today.

00:17:28.040 And for the next four days,

00:17:29.260 he's going to be filing reports

00:17:30.760 for us about these protests.

00:17:33.020 What are they really like?

00:17:34.480 Who are the protesters?

00:17:35.860 What are the police like?

00:17:37.480 Are people worried about

00:17:38.740 those Chinese tanks invading?

00:17:40.600 Are people hopeful

00:17:41.680 that Trump will do more

00:17:42.660 than just tweet?

00:17:43.640 I am so curious.

00:17:44.880 Aren't you?

00:17:45.440 So we've set up

00:17:47.160 a special website,

00:17:48.480 HongKongReports.com.

00:17:52.100 And we expect to have videos

00:17:53.800 on it as soon as tomorrow night.

00:17:56.300 I'm excited about being

00:17:57.420 on the ground out there

00:17:58.220 and hearing the truth

00:17:59.060 and cheering on those

00:18:01.160 who care about freedom.

00:18:03.420 We've sent Avi 0.96

00:18:04.240 and his cameraman,

00:18:06.060 so that's two flights

00:18:06.920 and a hotel

00:18:07.680 and taxi fare

00:18:09.600 and meals.

00:18:11.200 Total cost for the expenses

00:18:12.400 to get him

00:18:13.240 and his cameraman there.

00:18:14.740 About $4,000

00:18:15.900 by the time we're done.

00:18:17.040 If you can help us chip in,

00:18:18.100 please do at

00:18:18.600 HongKongReports.com.

00:18:20.160 But either way,

00:18:21.000 all of our videos

00:18:21.700 are going to be put up

00:18:22.380 on that website for free.

00:18:23.720 They'll be outside the paywall.

00:18:25.600 We just want the world

00:18:26.560 to see the truth

00:18:27.240 and it's just a little pricey

00:18:28.280 getting to Hong Kong.

00:18:29.240 Are you with the people

00:18:30.120 of Hong Kong

00:18:30.680 like Donald Trump is?

00:18:31.600 I hope so.

00:18:33.220 So go to

00:18:34.380 HongKongReports.com.

00:18:35.760 We won't have

00:18:36.220 new videos up there today,

00:18:37.780 but they should be up tomorrow

00:18:38.820 to get the rebel take on it.

00:18:41.360 Thanks.

00:18:41.800 Stay with us.

00:18:42.400 for more.

00:18:56.740 Welcome back.

00:18:57.640 Well, it was a bombshell,

00:18:59.320 yet another ethics bombshell

00:19:01.280 exploding in Justin Trudeau's office,

00:19:04.140 but he just has that perma grin.

00:19:06.240 He's going to try

00:19:06.920 and brazen it out.

00:19:09.000 Mario Dion,

00:19:10.040 the second conflict

00:19:11.460 of interest

00:19:11.880 and ethics commissioner,

00:19:13.160 has convicted Trudeau

00:19:15.000 of violating

00:19:15.860 the Conflict of Interest Act.

00:19:17.480 That in itself

00:19:18.200 is not a criminal code offense,

00:19:19.860 but it is a law.

00:19:20.900 He broke the law yet again.

00:19:23.680 I have shared with you

00:19:25.060 my initial thoughts

00:19:25.920 on the subject

00:19:26.440 in a monologue,

00:19:27.240 but someone who I follow

00:19:28.500 very closely,

00:19:29.340 especially when it comes

00:19:30.180 to matters involving

00:19:31.440 both law and politics,

00:19:32.820 is our friend

00:19:34.040 Manny Montenegrino,

00:19:35.220 who was our chief expert

00:19:36.820 on the NAFTA renegotiations,

00:19:39.000 and he has been following

00:19:40.500 this ethics report

00:19:41.800 very carefully,

00:19:42.740 and he joins us now

00:19:43.920 via Skype from Ottawa.

00:19:45.240 Manny, great to see you again.

00:19:47.040 Great to be with you,

00:19:48.180 Ezra, as always.

00:19:49.180 Well, Manny,

00:19:49.720 I had my say on the subject.

00:19:51.380 If I had to sum up

00:19:52.200 my biggest concern

00:19:53.100 in one sentence,

00:19:53.920 it would be this.

00:19:55.220 Nine people who work

00:19:56.740 for the prime minister

00:19:57.680 told Mario Dion

00:19:59.280 that they had more relevant

00:20:01.460 information to share,

00:20:03.020 but that Trudeau was

00:20:04.200 forbidding them

00:20:05.360 from disclosing it.

00:20:06.520 So that tells me

00:20:07.580 we don't even know

00:20:08.440 the worst of it.

00:20:09.880 That's, I guess,

00:20:10.880 my takeaway,

00:20:11.820 but I really want you

00:20:13.200 to go deep on this.

00:20:14.940 Can you take us

00:20:15.720 through the offenses,

00:20:17.540 take us through

00:20:18.240 what Trudeau did,

00:20:19.300 and use your own

00:20:20.700 legal and political mind

00:20:21.920 to help guide us here?

00:20:23.620 Absolutely, Ezra.

00:20:25.160 Let's start

00:20:25.920 from the beginning.

00:20:28.160 Justin Trudeau

00:20:28.980 was elected

00:20:29.540 late 2015.

00:20:32.900 By 2016, March,

00:20:35.240 he's already orchestrated,

00:20:37.360 which is very hard to do,

00:20:39.100 a free trip

00:20:40.440 to the private island

00:20:41.540 of the Aga Khan.

00:20:43.600 Now, he did not go,

00:20:44.740 but his wife and friends did,

00:20:46.220 and he obviously,

00:20:47.680 that was one of the violations

00:20:49.660 under the Ethics Act

00:20:50.780 under Section 11

00:20:52.160 by taking gifts.

00:20:54.120 Then another similar violation

00:20:56.200 when he and his family

00:20:58.060 went back on December 16th

00:21:00.120 to the Aga Khan's 0.85

00:21:01.260 private island,

00:21:02.300 and people have estimated

00:21:04.120 that each one

00:21:04.920 of these trips,

00:21:05.860 if you include

00:21:06.500 the entourage

00:21:07.160 and being at the island,

00:21:08.580 and sometimes,

00:21:09.460 as the Prime Minister's wife was, 0.88

00:21:11.360 being on the island

00:21:12.100 by yourself

00:21:12.820 without the Aga Khan there, 0.99

00:21:14.140 it's about $200,000

00:21:15.440 per trip.

00:21:16.420 Yeah.

00:21:16.640 So we're talking about

00:21:17.540 $400,000 worth

00:21:19.300 of free gifts.

00:21:20.440 Now, that was two violations

00:21:21.940 that the previous

00:21:23.800 Ethics Commissioner found,

00:21:25.440 but in addition,

00:21:26.320 another alarming one,

00:21:27.740 and we know this,

00:21:28.600 and I think Canadians

00:21:29.420 know this,

00:21:30.280 this Prime Minister

00:21:31.860 does not have his hands

00:21:33.260 on the minutiae

00:21:34.440 of the running

00:21:34.920 of the government,

00:21:35.720 but he did

00:21:36.500 with respect to

00:21:37.760 putting himself

00:21:39.360 in a position

00:21:40.180 where they were giving

00:21:41.520 grants to the Aga Khan,

00:21:44.020 and he again

00:21:45.200 was found to be

00:21:46.760 in breach of the Essex

00:21:48.420 Section 21,

00:21:50.140 which is,

00:21:51.000 he failed to recuse himself.

00:21:52.400 Now, think about that.

00:21:53.600 You've just got $200,000

00:21:55.200 twice,

00:21:56.880 free trips to Aga Khan,

00:21:57.820 and you make yourself

00:21:59.100 to the decision

00:22:01.440 of giving grants

00:22:03.160 to the Aga Khan Foundation,

00:22:05.020 and that is a violation.

00:22:07.080 So all in all,

00:22:08.520 at the very first instance

00:22:10.000 of these two trips

00:22:12.220 and others,

00:22:13.340 he's in breach

00:22:14.060 of 13 separate violations

00:22:16.760 under the Ethics Act,

00:22:18.620 the Conflicts Act,

00:22:19.840 and that was found

00:22:20.880 by an ethics commissioner,

00:22:23.340 and I want to remind you,

00:22:24.800 Ezra,

00:22:25.340 when we were going

00:22:26.080 through the second trouble

00:22:27.560 with Prime Minister Trudeau,

00:22:30.200 the obstruction of justice,

00:22:31.940 he calmed the nation

00:22:33.400 by saying,

00:22:33.940 we don't need

00:22:34.860 a justice inquiry,

00:22:37.280 we don't need

00:22:38.100 a royal commission,

00:22:39.420 we have a quasi-judge,

00:22:42.140 the ethics commissioner,

00:22:43.700 and he called him a judge,

00:22:45.020 and I paid note

00:22:46.700 to that, Ezra,

00:22:47.420 because he's trying

00:22:48.640 to comfort everybody

00:22:49.780 that a judge

00:22:50.920 is going to be looking at it.

00:22:52.300 Mario Dumont

00:22:53.400 is a judge,

00:22:54.740 he will be adjudicating,

00:22:56.360 and that's what he said

00:22:57.300 to Canadians.

00:22:58.540 So we'll get to that

00:23:00.080 in a second.

00:23:01.120 But the very first instance

00:23:02.720 where he has

00:23:03.320 13 breaches

00:23:05.620 of separate

00:23:06.320 and separate violations

00:23:08.160 under the Ethics Act,

00:23:09.500 there's another

00:23:10.180 important point

00:23:11.180 that the previous

00:23:12.180 commissioner,

00:23:14.080 Dawson,

00:23:14.720 found,

00:23:15.300 and that was

00:23:15.880 the prime minister

00:23:16.620 was not credible.

00:23:17.920 And what I mean by that,

00:23:19.040 he attempted to say

00:23:20.940 to a judge

00:23:22.420 that the Aga Khan

00:23:23.880 was a friend

00:23:24.540 who he had not seen

00:23:25.320 for 30 years.

00:23:26.320 The commissioner said,

00:23:27.720 I do not accept

00:23:28.760 your evidence.

00:23:29.980 And when a judge

00:23:30.760 says that,

00:23:31.940 you know,

00:23:32.240 we say,

00:23:33.180 you know,

00:23:33.760 we can use

00:23:34.220 different language,

00:23:34.940 but basically

00:23:35.540 some say lie,

00:23:36.960 but others might say

00:23:37.800 not credible

00:23:38.520 and not a credible witness.

00:23:40.120 So in the backdrop,

00:23:41.980 you have the prime minister

00:23:42.960 of Canada

00:23:43.540 who has been found

00:23:45.240 13 separate violations

00:23:47.080 over two attempts,

00:23:48.140 March 16th,

00:23:50.060 December 16th,

00:23:51.200 and found by a judge

00:23:52.680 not to be credible.

00:23:54.280 Now,

00:23:55.220 we sit

00:23:55.800 and what does he do?

00:23:57.400 Does he,

00:23:57.860 does he,

00:23:58.720 does he behave?

00:24:00.800 No,

00:24:01.220 he then

00:24:01.840 goes

00:24:03.160 and tries

00:24:04.320 a four-month campaign

00:24:05.980 to obstruct justice

00:24:07.380 for SNC-Lavalin.

00:24:08.700 Now,

00:24:09.360 what,

00:24:09.760 you know,

00:24:10.180 what happened,

00:24:10.980 Ezra?

00:24:11.240 What happened?

00:24:12.240 The attorney,

00:24:12.940 this is unprecedented.

00:24:14.420 The attorney general

00:24:15.360 of Canada,

00:24:16.180 top lawyer,

00:24:17.340 breaks and says,

00:24:18.140 I can't take this anymore.

00:24:20.040 This is wrong.

00:24:21.120 This has got to stop.

00:24:22.860 And that in itself

00:24:24.260 ought to have,

00:24:25.620 I mean,

00:24:25.780 that is about as serious

00:24:26.860 as you can get in Canada

00:24:28.160 when the top,

00:24:29.080 and this is a liberal

00:24:29.940 attorney general.

00:24:30.700 This isn't,

00:24:31.200 this isn't politics,

00:24:32.740 but it was,

00:24:33.940 it was seen as politics

00:24:35.480 because that's how

00:24:36.200 the prime minister

00:24:36.820 got around it.

00:24:37.760 But the attorney general

00:24:38.900 says,

00:24:39.360 this is so bad

00:24:40.860 that I need to speak.

00:24:43.420 And then,

00:24:44.340 in addition to that,

00:24:45.700 she gets fired. 0.54

00:24:47.040 She was fearful

00:24:47.920 of losing her job

00:24:49.040 because she was holding up

00:24:50.060 the rule of law.

00:24:51.520 The clerk quits.

00:24:53.280 Butts quits. 1.00

00:24:54.700 Five attorney generals

00:24:55.880 sent a letter

00:24:56.480 saying to the RSMP,

00:24:57.680 we see evidence

00:24:58.600 of obstruction of justice.

00:25:00.680 The opposition leader,

00:25:02.840 Andrew Scheer,

00:25:03.540 says,

00:25:03.900 we see evidence

00:25:04.900 of obstruction of justice.

00:25:06.480 And gratuitously,

00:25:08.320 the attorney general

00:25:09.460 of Ontario,

00:25:10.220 the ex-attorney general

00:25:11.320 Michael Bryant,

00:25:12.320 says in his legal opinion,

00:25:14.220 it is obstruction of justice.

00:25:15.840 Well,

00:25:16.040 that was all pushed aside,

00:25:17.720 Ezra,

00:25:18.140 because it said,

00:25:19.020 well,

00:25:19.200 this is all politics.

00:25:20.120 We've got to wait

00:25:20.700 for Mario Dumont,

00:25:22.720 the judge,

00:25:23.800 as the prime minister

00:25:24.700 likes to call him.

00:25:25.700 Well,

00:25:25.920 you have to wait

00:25:26.660 to what he says.

00:25:28.000 Well,

00:25:28.200 what did he say?

00:25:29.280 He said,

00:25:30.440 in a scathing decision,

00:25:32.560 it was clear

00:25:33.540 conflict of interest

00:25:35.500 and the evidence

00:25:37.120 was there

00:25:38.000 that there was clear

00:25:39.500 obstruction of justice.

00:25:41.340 So,

00:25:41.460 he is not a politician.

00:25:44.020 He was appointed

00:25:45.100 by the prime minister.

00:25:48.020 So,

00:25:48.300 here you have

00:25:48.980 an attorney general

00:25:50.940 appointed by the prime minister,

00:25:52.320 a clerk working

00:25:53.160 for the prime minister,

00:25:54.140 Butts, 0.97

00:25:54.840 best friend of the prime minister,

00:25:57.400 an attorney general

00:25:58.260 from Ontario,

00:25:59.020 and now

00:25:59.520 a judge

00:26:00.960 of the ethics commissioner

00:26:02.120 appointed by Trudeau,

00:26:03.860 all pointing

00:26:04.740 to clear evidence

00:26:06.220 that there is

00:26:07.640 obstruction of justice.

00:26:09.120 You know,

00:26:10.040 I read

00:26:12.040 the Mario Dion's

00:26:13.580 report

00:26:14.220 and he's

00:26:16.040 a very clear writer

00:26:17.040 and I would invite people

00:26:18.000 to find the report

00:26:18.660 and read it online.

00:26:19.740 It's not too technical

00:26:21.240 a document.

00:26:22.400 You'll get into

00:26:23.020 lots of the details

00:26:24.200 of who said what when,

00:26:26.480 but it shows

00:26:27.900 that Trudeau

00:26:29.560 had this whole

00:26:30.760 team

00:26:32.060 working against

00:26:33.280 Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:26:34.780 They were scheming

00:26:36.160 privately

00:26:36.960 with lawyers

00:26:37.800 from SNC-Lavalin

00:26:38.980 and not telling

00:26:40.840 Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:26:41.800 that.

00:26:42.580 And Wilson-Raybould

00:26:43.640 said she was surprised

00:26:45.020 to learn this.

00:26:46.600 That,

00:26:47.100 for example,

00:26:47.880 that they were

00:26:48.740 taking legal opinions

00:26:50.480 drafted by SNC-Lavalin,

00:26:52.680 the prime minister,

00:26:53.740 Trudeau,

00:26:54.160 was briefing

00:26:54.700 themselves on those

00:26:55.560 and they were

00:26:56.340 lobbying

00:26:57.240 Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:26:58.760 pressuring Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:27:00.080 on behalf

00:27:01.460 of the company.

00:27:02.700 It's crazy,

00:27:04.420 Manny,

00:27:04.700 and that only came out.

00:27:06.780 Yeah,

00:27:07.040 exactly.

00:27:07.920 Exactly.

00:27:08.580 And it can't,

00:27:09.220 I mean,

00:27:09.760 Ezra,

00:27:10.600 I cannot think

00:27:12.340 of a case

00:27:12.900 where the facts

00:27:13.700 are so clear

00:27:15.720 and meets the test

00:27:16.700 under Section

00:27:17.420 139.1

00:27:18.980 of the criminal code,

00:27:20.460 which is obstruction

00:27:21.200 of justice.

00:27:22.180 It is a very clear section.

00:27:24.460 It says,

00:27:25.060 everyone,

00:27:25.620 that includes

00:27:27.520 Justin Trudeau,

00:27:29.420 who willfully,

00:27:30.980 and that,

00:27:31.820 Mario Dorn's decision

00:27:33.360 was,

00:27:33.680 it was absolutely willful

00:27:35.580 when you have

00:27:36.280 an orchestrated attempt

00:27:37.640 for four months

00:27:38.320 working along

00:27:39.900 with SNC-Lavalin lawyers

00:27:41.500 and trying to obstruct

00:27:43.040 the attorney general.

00:27:44.780 That is about as willful.

00:27:46.420 I'd go past willful

00:27:48.240 and say it's premeditated.

00:27:49.680 But he met the threshold

00:27:51.280 of willful,

00:27:52.140 or the case was.

00:27:53.380 Attempts,

00:27:54.020 and it was clearly

00:27:54.900 many attempts

00:27:56.220 over a four-month period

00:27:57.320 in any manner,

00:27:58.880 it says.

00:27:59.960 And it is to obstruct.

00:28:01.340 So the case

00:28:01.920 has been absolutely met.

00:28:04.900 So it is,

00:28:06.000 it is.

00:28:06.500 Now, Ezra,

00:28:07.080 here's an interesting point.

00:28:08.480 And, you know,

00:28:09.040 we get more American news

00:28:12.300 than we get Canadian news

00:28:13.500 thanks to our media

00:28:14.420 who's fixated on Trump.

00:28:16.320 So we don't,

00:28:17.140 but we,

00:28:19.280 everyone knows

00:28:20.240 the Mueller report,

00:28:21.220 the investigation there

00:28:22.500 was to see

00:28:23.520 whether there was

00:28:24.220 any collusion.

00:28:24.900 Now,

00:28:25.540 this is very typical

00:28:26.840 in criminal cases.

00:28:29.060 There is an alleged crime

00:28:30.540 you investigated.

00:28:31.980 And within that alleged crime,

00:28:33.540 sometimes those

00:28:35.340 who are investigated

00:28:36.680 don't cooperate fully

00:28:38.700 with the investigator.

00:28:40.880 Right.

00:28:41.040 And so,

00:28:41.540 in the Mueller case,

00:28:43.360 they came forward

00:28:44.740 and said,

00:28:45.100 there's no evidence

00:28:46.780 of Russian collusion.

00:28:48.080 But did the,

00:28:50.040 did the president

00:28:51.660 with his tweets

00:28:52.940 and otherwise

00:28:54.360 try to obstruct?

00:28:56.360 And they found,

00:28:57.000 of course,

00:28:57.280 not a clear case.

00:28:58.520 Now,

00:28:58.820 bring ourselves to Canada.

00:29:00.200 We have a criminal case

00:29:02.700 of obstruction of justice

00:29:04.400 where the attorney general

00:29:05.620 clearly made the case.

00:29:07.600 And now,

00:29:08.240 the judge,

00:29:09.740 ethics commissioner,

00:29:10.880 Mario Dumont,

00:29:11.960 finds clearly that.

00:29:14.000 But he also says

00:29:15.000 something else,

00:29:16.140 Ezra,

00:29:16.300 and you alluded to it

00:29:17.560 at the beginning

00:29:18.160 of the show.

00:29:19.400 And that is,

00:29:20.380 they obstructed justice

00:29:23.160 within the investigation

00:29:25.520 of obstruction of justice

00:29:27.160 by not letting

00:29:28.060 the nine people speak.

00:29:29.740 Now,

00:29:29.880 I mean,

00:29:30.980 in America,

00:29:32.340 the White House

00:29:33.060 let everyone speak.

00:29:35.220 In Canada,

00:29:36.960 nine key witnesses

00:29:38.640 were told not to speak.

00:29:40.880 That would have been,

00:29:42.060 that is a separate charge

00:29:44.140 of obstruction of justice.

00:29:45.420 And so you have,

00:29:47.340 the irony is,

00:29:48.420 is that we have an abundance.

00:29:49.980 We have a plethora.

00:29:50.900 We have a,

00:29:51.480 you know,

00:29:51.840 a mountain of obstruction

00:29:54.340 of justice's cases here.

00:29:57.400 This isn't just simply saying,

00:29:59.300 oh,

00:29:59.400 we can't meet with you,

00:30:00.500 Mario.

00:30:00.760 We're instructed not to meet with you.

00:30:04.100 It's pretty severe.

00:30:05.620 The way Dion described it,

00:30:07.460 these witnesses had information,

00:30:10.180 were prepared to cooperate,

00:30:12.240 but they were ordered not to

00:30:14.580 by a government lawyer.

00:30:16.920 And there's this crazy line in there,

00:30:19.100 Manny,

00:30:19.700 where Mario Dion says

00:30:21.960 that when he tried to negotiate

00:30:23.760 the release of this information,

00:30:26.820 they were stonewalled. 0.75

00:30:28.420 And Trudeau said,

00:30:30.180 well,

00:30:30.460 what can I do?

00:30:31.500 The PCO lawyer says not to,

00:30:33.900 so I'm not,

00:30:34.580 like,

00:30:34.920 as if the prime minister

00:30:36.200 doesn't have the power

00:30:37.820 to release that information,

00:30:39.720 because some lawyer 0.91

00:30:41.640 who works for Trudeau says,

00:30:43.340 don't do it.

00:30:44.500 And Trudeau says,

00:30:45.100 what could I do?

00:30:46.000 The lawyer says,

00:30:46.880 I can't give you the info.

00:30:48.480 Stephen Harper waived privilege

00:30:50.140 over everything

00:30:51.020 in the case of Admiral Mark Norman.

00:30:53.760 He just said,

00:30:54.480 I waive it.

00:30:55.480 Any rights I have,

00:30:56.720 I waive it.

00:30:57.600 And Trudeau not only

00:30:58.760 didn't waive it,

00:30:59.520 he enforced his rights,

00:31:01.360 and the little coward

00:31:02.180 blamed some lawyer

00:31:03.980 in the Privy Council office.

00:31:05.700 I can't believe

00:31:06.220 he's getting away with this,

00:31:07.200 Manny. 0.94

00:31:08.300 It's shocking,

00:31:09.360 Ezra.

00:31:09.960 There was a case

00:31:11.220 where the RCMP

00:31:12.680 investigated

00:31:14.540 a senator

00:31:15.760 for spending

00:31:16.480 $90,000,

00:31:17.380 Senator Duffy,

00:31:18.360 on specious evidence,

00:31:21.480 on allegations.

00:31:23.300 We have here

00:31:24.300 clear,

00:31:25.540 not only

00:31:26.340 allegations,

00:31:27.900 we have here

00:31:28.560 judgments

00:31:29.240 of a judge

00:31:30.140 ethics commissioner

00:31:31.340 that lays out

00:31:32.620 obstruction.

00:31:33.800 And in that case,

00:31:34.940 on the Senator Duffy,

00:31:36.060 what did Prime Minister

00:31:37.060 Harper do?

00:31:38.120 He not only

00:31:38.960 instructed everyone

00:31:40.200 to be cooperative

00:31:41.160 and give all the evidence,

00:31:43.500 most of them

00:31:44.300 were witnesses

00:31:45.020 for the Crown.

00:31:47.040 They weren't

00:31:48.520 obstructing,

00:31:49.580 they were in fact

00:31:50.540 witnesses for the Crown

00:31:51.960 to assist the Crown

00:31:53.520 in the case.

00:31:54.440 Here we have

00:31:55.120 obstruction

00:31:55.800 by the Prime Minister's office

00:31:57.360 on a case

00:31:58.440 of obstruction.

00:31:59.840 It just,

00:32:00.400 it is beyond

00:32:01.420 comprehension.

00:32:03.200 And now,

00:32:03.800 you know,

00:32:04.060 Ezra,

00:32:04.360 Canadians know,

00:32:05.820 and I've been asked

00:32:06.700 this on Twitter

00:32:07.200 because I've got

00:32:07.660 a lot of

00:32:08.400 American followers,

00:32:09.900 is there any

00:32:10.580 impeachment

00:32:11.180 capability in Canada?

00:32:13.960 And Americans 0.95

00:32:14.580 don't know.

00:32:15.380 They have a solid

00:32:16.120 constitution

00:32:16.820 where everyone

00:32:17.920 is responsible

00:32:18.880 and there's supervision

00:32:19.920 and so on.

00:32:20.580 In Canada,

00:32:21.500 all we have

00:32:22.460 is a parliamentary

00:32:23.540 democracy

00:32:24.300 that solely

00:32:25.900 relies on

00:32:27.500 ministerial

00:32:28.520 responsibility,

00:32:29.780 i.e.

00:32:30.320 kind of

00:32:31.460 an honest

00:32:32.740 check of yourself.

00:32:33.780 If you do

00:32:34.220 something wrong,

00:32:35.040 you resign.

00:32:36.480 And without

00:32:38.000 that,

00:32:38.540 we have no

00:32:39.140 power.

00:32:40.020 We have to

00:32:40.520 depend on

00:32:41.440 the integrity

00:32:42.020 of our

00:32:42.760 politicians

00:32:43.380 to act

00:32:44.280 properly.

00:32:44.760 Or the

00:32:45.040 parliamentary

00:32:45.380 system is

00:32:46.180 a joke.

00:32:47.000 And since

00:32:47.820 it was

00:32:48.440 starting to

00:32:49.120 get a joke,

00:32:49.940 we created

00:32:50.680 a legislation

00:32:51.740 called the

00:32:52.300 Conflicts of

00:32:52.900 Interest Act

00:32:53.700 because we

00:32:54.260 didn't need

00:32:54.740 that before

00:32:55.380 because we

00:32:56.300 trusted our

00:32:56.940 politicians.

00:32:57.580 They were

00:32:57.740 honourable.

00:32:58.500 They were

00:32:58.740 representing

00:32:59.280 but now

00:33:01.260 we have

00:33:01.680 a piece

00:33:02.180 of legislation

00:33:03.040 and that

00:33:03.980 doesn't even

00:33:04.580 help to get

00:33:05.560 responsible

00:33:06.480 government.

00:33:07.260 We need

00:33:07.720 to have,

00:33:08.700 I mean,

00:33:09.060 unfortunately,

00:33:09.860 the only

00:33:10.340 thing that

00:33:10.800 will work

00:33:11.240 is a

00:33:11.880 criminal

00:33:12.500 investigation

00:33:13.260 by the

00:33:13.880 I mean,

00:33:14.460 I cannot

00:33:14.900 believe that

00:33:15.820 the RCMP

00:33:16.360 is not

00:33:17.360 already and

00:33:18.340 has not

00:33:19.280 already

00:33:19.760 concluded.

00:33:20.500 I mean,

00:33:20.780 there is

00:33:21.360 absolutely

00:33:21.940 no evidence,

00:33:23.660 none,

00:33:24.400 zero,

00:33:25.180 that suggests

00:33:25.920 that at least

00:33:26.920 investigation and

00:33:27.980 charges should

00:33:28.460 not be laid. 0.51

00:33:28.960 Now,

00:33:29.420 where this

00:33:29.820 goes criminally

00:33:30.540 is up to

00:33:32.180 great lawyers

00:33:32.780 and great

00:33:33.500 parsing of

00:33:34.460 the criminal

00:33:34.820 code.

00:33:35.640 But the,

00:33:36.660 I mean,

00:33:37.280 Ezra,

00:33:38.100 we have a

00:33:39.460 decision of

00:33:40.660 a quasi-judicial

00:33:41.760 body,

00:33:42.260 the ethics

00:33:42.680 commissioner,

00:33:43.360 referred to

00:33:43.960 by the

00:33:44.340 prime minister

00:33:44.840 as a judge,

00:33:45.940 scathingly say

00:33:46.800 there was

00:33:47.160 obstruction of

00:33:47.800 justice.

00:33:48.340 That's all

00:33:49.060 you need

00:33:49.540 to lay

00:33:50.080 charges.

00:33:50.860 And he's

00:33:51.240 explicit that

00:33:52.000 he doesn't

00:33:52.420 even know

00:33:52.800 the whole

00:33:53.100 story because

00:33:53.680 of the nine

00:33:54.360 witnesses who

00:33:55.400 were ordered

00:33:55.920 to stay

00:33:56.420 quiet.

00:33:56.800 It's very

00:33:58.520 frustrating.

00:33:59.220 I was talking

00:33:59.740 to Lauren

00:33:59.960 Gunter about

00:34:00.460 this the

00:34:00.740 other day,

00:34:01.300 and I said

00:34:01.780 our system

00:34:02.540 depends on

00:34:04.020 people voluntarily

00:34:05.460 complying with

00:34:06.380 the law,

00:34:06.960 even if they're

00:34:07.620 not thrilled

00:34:08.200 about it.

00:34:09.100 I mean,

00:34:09.600 I guess all

00:34:10.360 of society

00:34:10.960 depends on

00:34:11.620 that.

00:34:12.460 We don't

00:34:12.940 have enough

00:34:13.360 policemen to

00:34:14.120 ensure that

00:34:15.000 every single

00:34:15.700 citizen obeys

00:34:16.500 the law all

00:34:16.940 the time.

00:34:17.860 There's just

00:34:18.160 not enough.

00:34:18.660 There's not

00:34:18.880 enough jails.

00:34:19.480 We have to

00:34:19.760 rely on people

00:34:20.440 doing the

00:34:20.800 right thing.

00:34:21.240 In politics,

00:34:22.540 I think it's

00:34:22.940 sort of the

00:34:23.640 same way.

00:34:24.700 After what

00:34:25.520 Mario Dion

00:34:26.320 just reported,

00:34:28.640 if the

00:34:29.680 entire political

00:34:30.460 establishment

00:34:30.980 says we're

00:34:31.540 going to

00:34:31.740 brazen it

00:34:32.300 out,

00:34:33.120 we're going

00:34:33.540 to say,

00:34:34.020 well,

00:34:34.100 we disagree

00:34:34.760 and move

00:34:35.500 on like

00:34:36.660 nothing

00:34:36.980 happened,

00:34:38.740 something's

00:34:39.320 got to

00:34:39.600 break because

00:34:40.140 we rely

00:34:41.460 on some

00:34:42.600 submission by

00:34:44.660 the prime

00:34:45.020 minister to

00:34:45.520 the rule

00:34:45.820 of law.

00:34:46.160 But he's

00:34:46.600 sort of saying

00:34:47.840 to all of

00:34:48.280 Canada,

00:34:49.640 I dare

00:34:50.360 you,

00:34:51.380 I dare

00:34:53.680 you,

00:34:53.920 you're going

00:34:54.140 to blink

00:34:54.460 first.

00:34:55.060 Let's have

00:34:55.380 a staring

00:34:55.720 contest.

00:34:56.280 I'm not

00:34:56.660 going to

00:34:56.860 blink.

00:34:58.080 Well,

00:34:58.540 it's a bit

00:34:59.540 different than

00:35:00.040 that.

00:35:00.480 You know,

00:35:01.280 there's a lot

00:35:03.060 and it's just

00:35:03.780 so infuriating

00:35:05.100 in the media.

00:35:06.560 The discussion

00:35:07.260 now is,

00:35:08.460 will Trudeau

00:35:09.080 apologize?

00:35:10.020 Why did he

00:35:10.660 not apologize?

00:35:12.620 You know,

00:35:13.940 no one

00:35:14.480 cares.

00:35:15.500 And all

00:35:16.180 this does

00:35:16.820 is diminish

00:35:17.540 the seriousness

00:35:18.460 as you're

00:35:20.340 kid broke

00:35:21.060 a window.

00:35:21.600 Should he

00:35:21.820 apologize?

00:35:22.440 The seriousness

00:35:23.420 of the crime.

00:35:24.560 This is

00:35:24.960 obstruction of

00:35:25.740 justice.

00:35:26.120 You can't

00:35:26.440 get much

00:35:26.840 bigger,

00:35:27.460 especially

00:35:28.000 when it's

00:35:28.760 wielded by

00:35:29.320 the prime

00:35:29.720 minister and

00:35:30.100 the PMO.

00:35:31.140 But Canadians 0.99

00:35:32.400 do know how

00:35:33.000 to understand.

00:35:34.320 Trudeau is

00:35:34.880 not,

00:35:35.660 Prime Minister

00:35:36.200 Trudeau is

00:35:36.700 not being

00:35:37.080 obstinate or

00:35:38.300 being,

00:35:38.880 you know,

00:35:39.660 a narcissist

00:35:40.340 about not

00:35:41.200 apologizing.

00:35:43.460 He's got

00:35:44.160 great criminal

00:35:45.640 lawyers telling

00:35:46.980 him,

00:35:47.280 do not

00:35:48.160 apologize

00:35:48.840 because the

00:35:49.940 case is so

00:35:50.860 strong against

00:35:51.680 you.

00:35:52.200 Mario Dion

00:35:53.040 made such a

00:35:53.860 strong case.

00:35:54.720 If you

00:35:55.240 apologize,

00:35:56.160 you are

00:35:56.520 basically saying

00:35:57.360 to the

00:35:57.800 court,

00:35:58.240 when you

00:35:58.600 get to a

00:35:59.100 criminal

00:35:59.320 court,

00:35:59.880 I am

00:36:00.240 guilty.

00:36:01.000 He has

00:36:01.560 to,

00:36:02.360 I mean,

00:36:02.960 listen,

00:36:03.500 if I was

00:36:04.000 instructed,

00:36:04.660 I mean,

00:36:04.880 you know,

00:36:04.960 some great

00:36:05.420 criminal lawyer

00:36:05.920 friends of

00:36:06.400 mine that

00:36:07.320 would simply

00:36:07.920 say,

00:36:08.660 do not

00:36:09.160 admit,

00:36:10.040 do not

00:36:10.680 apologize.

00:36:11.500 It still

00:36:12.020 could go

00:36:12.440 to court.

00:36:13.340 Here's the

00:36:13.920 thing.

00:36:14.100 The new

00:36:14.320 RCMP

00:36:14.880 commissioner

00:36:15.440 was appointed

00:36:16.800 by Trudeau.

00:36:17.580 Now,

00:36:17.740 that doesn't

00:36:18.080 necessarily mean

00:36:18.660 that she's

00:36:19.080 not putting

00:36:19.920 integrity first,

00:36:20.820 but I saw

00:36:21.560 this little

00:36:21.960 video clip

00:36:22.640 of her

00:36:23.560 hugging Trudeau

00:36:24.620 in that

00:36:25.080 close-huggy

00:36:25.900 way that

00:36:26.720 Trudeau does

00:36:27.300 with women

00:36:27.740 that he

00:36:28.040 wants to

00:36:28.420 sort of

00:36:28.700 mark,

00:36:29.500 I'm the

00:36:29.880 alpha dog,

00:36:30.820 you are

00:36:31.400 submissive to

00:36:32.140 me.

00:36:32.540 He does

00:36:32.860 this to

00:36:33.180 all the

00:36:33.580 women in 0.62

00:36:33.940 his cabinet.

00:36:34.880 He touches

00:36:35.340 the bum

00:36:35.860 of the

00:36:36.340 governor

00:36:36.680 general.

00:36:37.540 He's got

00:36:37.940 this weird

00:36:38.480 thing he does

00:36:39.040 with women.

00:36:39.840 He physically

00:36:40.520 touches them,

00:36:41.240 he hugs

00:36:41.620 them.

00:36:42.180 I think

00:36:42.680 it's sort

00:36:44.040 this domination

00:36:45.240 psychological

00:36:46.100 trick.

00:36:46.940 I'm worried,

00:36:47.920 Manny,

00:36:48.600 that that

00:36:49.100 RCMP

00:36:49.860 commissioner

00:36:50.880 is not

00:36:51.320 doing the

00:36:51.660 right thing,

00:36:52.060 and I hope

00:36:52.440 I'm wrong,

00:36:53.300 but she

00:36:53.800 reminds me

00:36:54.660 too much

00:36:55.320 of the

00:36:56.100 submissive

00:36:56.640 women who 0.99

00:36:57.160 stayed

00:36:57.740 in Trudeau's

00:36:59.080 cabinet as

00:36:59.660 opposed to

00:37:00.080 the proud

00:37:00.680 honorable

00:37:01.220 women, 1.00

00:37:02.240 Jolie

00:37:02.400 Wilson-Raybould

00:37:02.940 and Jane 0.95

00:37:03.320 Philpott,

00:37:04.060 who quit

00:37:04.680 cabinet.

00:37:05.720 I'm worried

00:37:06.380 that she's

00:37:06.840 more in

00:37:07.080 the mold

00:37:07.320 of Melanie

00:37:07.780 Jolie

00:37:08.200 and

00:37:09.320 Catherine

00:37:10.980 McKenna,

00:37:11.620 women who 0.99

00:37:12.000 would do

00:37:12.240 anything just

00:37:13.000 to stay

00:37:13.320 in power.

00:37:14.040 Well,

00:37:14.900 you know,

00:37:15.320 Ezra,

00:37:15.660 I don't

00:37:16.520 want to

00:37:17.220 say that,

00:37:18.040 but I

00:37:18.360 will say

00:37:18.980 this.

00:37:20.240 You have

00:37:21.060 an unprecedented

00:37:22.420 set of

00:37:23.100 facts that

00:37:23.940 began at

00:37:24.540 the beginning

00:37:24.980 of the

00:37:25.320 year.

00:37:25.760 The

00:37:25.940 attorney

00:37:26.380 general

00:37:26.820 pleading

00:37:27.720 to the

00:37:28.660 public

00:37:29.060 that I

00:37:29.660 think he's

00:37:30.240 going to

00:37:30.560 fire me

00:37:31.160 because I'm

00:37:31.700 protecting

00:37:32.180 Canada's

00:37:33.040 rule of

00:37:33.360 law.

00:37:33.740 Then she

00:37:34.260 gets

00:37:34.520 fired.

00:37:35.360 The

00:37:35.560 clerk

00:37:35.840 quits.

00:37:36.680 Butts 0.82

00:37:36.940 quits.

00:37:37.500 Attorney

00:37:37.880 generals

00:37:38.340 are demanding

00:37:39.060 an RCMP

00:37:39.660 investigation.

00:37:40.600 This all

00:37:41.300 happened.

00:37:41.840 Now,

00:37:42.200 the video

00:37:42.560 you're

00:37:42.860 referring

00:37:43.180 to

00:37:43.520 happened

00:37:44.000 on July

00:37:44.420 1st,

00:37:45.120 and that

00:37:45.340 was Canada

00:37:45.820 Day.

00:37:46.560 And I

00:37:46.940 see that

00:37:47.340 video on

00:37:47.780 Twitter,

00:37:48.120 and it

00:37:48.340 breaks my

00:37:48.840 heart.

00:37:49.600 They see

00:37:49.900 people use

00:37:50.740 that,

00:37:51.040 and I've

00:37:51.580 retweeted it

00:37:52.260 because I

00:37:52.640 want people

00:37:53.080 to see it.

00:37:53.900 They basically

00:37:54.440 are saying,

00:37:55.240 now,

00:37:55.700 the RCMP

00:37:56.940 commissioner

00:37:57.340 knows very,

00:37:58.540 very well

00:37:59.220 that there's

00:38:00.060 at least

00:38:00.860 an apprehension

00:38:02.240 that there

00:38:02.960 could be some

00:38:03.580 criminality, 0.70

00:38:04.400 a very serious

00:38:05.280 one.

00:38:05.540 You would

00:38:06.300 think you'd

00:38:07.340 have the

00:38:07.700 presence of

00:38:08.360 mind not

00:38:09.220 to be in

00:38:09.740 that hug

00:38:10.200 fest during

00:38:11.340 this.

00:38:11.880 And now

00:38:12.220 we have

00:38:12.860 a judge,

00:38:14.640 Mario Dumont,

00:38:15.800 coming with

00:38:16.380 a decision

00:38:16.940 saying obstruction

00:38:17.660 of justice,

00:38:18.620 and only a

00:38:20.140 month or so

00:38:20.660 ago, you

00:38:21.060 have the

00:38:21.400 RCMP

00:38:21.920 commissioner

00:38:22.840 hugging the

00:38:24.820 accused

00:38:26.020 prime minister,

00:38:27.560 and it's

00:38:28.140 just unfortunate.

00:38:29.220 And the

00:38:29.400 RCMP,

00:38:30.200 I mean,

00:38:30.640 they really,

00:38:31.940 they're the

00:38:33.200 last people

00:38:34.120 in Canada

00:38:34.980 that can

00:38:36.160 protect

00:38:36.660 Canadians,

00:38:37.660 what we

00:38:38.120 expect,

00:38:38.720 the rule

00:38:38.980 of law.

00:38:39.520 You know,

00:38:39.880 we lost

00:38:40.380 our attorney

00:38:40.880 general who

00:38:41.840 is protecting

00:38:42.440 the rule

00:38:42.860 of law.

00:38:43.500 We have

00:38:43.860 a new

00:38:44.220 attorney

00:38:44.560 general,

00:38:45.240 and it's

00:38:45.560 beyond my

00:38:46.460 comprehension

00:38:47.180 that David

00:38:48.140 Lamedi,

00:38:48.980 who has

00:38:49.440 said,

00:38:49.840 I don't

00:38:50.220 need to

00:38:50.600 interview,

00:38:51.160 who has

00:38:51.580 now before

00:38:52.420 him,

00:38:53.080 and everybody

00:38:53.640 was waiting

00:38:54.260 for Mario

00:38:54.840 Dumont,

00:38:55.480 who now

00:38:55.980 has before

00:38:56.960 him a

00:38:57.380 decision by

00:38:58.280 a judge,

00:38:59.280 as Trudeau

00:38:59.880 calls him,

00:39:00.740 the ethics

00:39:01.580 commissioner,

00:39:02.360 and the

00:39:02.760 attorney general

00:39:03.560 of Canada

00:39:04.120 is not

00:39:04.840 calling in

00:39:05.460 the RCMP.

00:39:06.520 The attorney

00:39:07.000 general of

00:39:07.580 Canada is

00:39:08.060 not saying

00:39:08.460 this is

00:39:09.180 serious.

00:39:09.800 The attorney

00:39:10.180 general of

00:39:10.700 Canada says,

00:39:11.300 I still

00:39:11.880 take the

00:39:12.320 prime minister's

00:39:12.960 word.

00:39:13.520 I mean,

00:39:13.780 the only

00:39:14.460 person that

00:39:15.100 can protect

00:39:15.620 Canadians,

00:39:16.220 the only

00:39:16.500 group that

00:39:17.080 can protect

00:39:17.560 Canadians,

00:39:18.300 and it is

00:39:18.860 wrong to

00:39:19.720 put this to

00:39:20.200 an election.

00:39:21.040 This is not

00:39:21.620 a matter of

00:39:22.220 an election.

00:39:23.040 This is a

00:39:23.520 matter of

00:39:24.180 rule of law,

00:39:25.140 and the only

00:39:26.180 people that

00:39:26.680 can do it,

00:39:27.160 Ezra,

00:39:27.480 are the RCMP,

00:39:28.720 and they've

00:39:29.100 got to move

00:39:29.580 quickly because

00:39:30.260 we are slowly,

00:39:31.500 slowly losing

00:39:32.760 confidence in

00:39:34.220 our judiciary.

00:39:34.840 We've also

00:39:36.480 even heard in

00:39:38.880 that report,

00:39:39.540 which breaks

00:39:40.240 my heart,

00:39:41.680 that the

00:39:42.060 ex-chief

00:39:42.800 justice,

00:39:43.480 Supreme Court

00:39:44.100 justice,

00:39:44.600 Beverly

00:39:44.840 McLaughlin,

00:39:45.780 was helping

00:39:47.480 in this

00:39:48.780 obscure

00:39:49.880 obstruction of

00:39:51.160 justice.

00:39:52.000 I mean,

00:39:52.220 it is beyond

00:39:52.920 my comprehension

00:39:53.840 that we've

00:39:54.380 lost the

00:39:55.780 judiciary,

00:39:56.620 the census,

00:39:57.260 we've lost

00:39:57.920 the clerk

00:39:58.940 of the

00:39:59.260 Privy Council,

00:39:59.960 the one who

00:40:00.380 takes care of

00:40:01.300 the independent

00:40:02.160 bureaucracy.

00:40:03.880 We've lost,

00:40:04.720 and please,

00:40:05.820 God,

00:40:06.280 let's not

00:40:06.720 us lose

00:40:07.280 the RCMP.

00:40:08.720 We've seen

00:40:09.400 the obstruction

00:40:10.600 of justice

00:40:11.100 with the

00:40:11.560 Admiral Norman.

00:40:12.500 Our military

00:40:13.620 is now

00:40:14.160 corrupted.

00:40:15.480 I mean,

00:40:16.140 this is,

00:40:17.000 and you

00:40:17.360 know,

00:40:17.620 Ezra,

00:40:18.300 what bothers

00:40:18.900 me,

00:40:19.080 and I say

00:40:19.400 this almost

00:40:20.140 every time

00:40:20.860 we do an

00:40:21.260 interview,

00:40:21.760 I think of

00:40:22.280 those two

00:40:22.660 young men

00:40:23.100 in China.

00:40:24.820 You know,

00:40:25.140 they are

00:40:26.120 sitting there

00:40:27.160 and China

00:40:27.880 is now

00:40:28.680 reading a

00:40:30.000 legal judgment

00:40:31.460 saying that

00:40:32.880 the Prime

00:40:33.440 Minister

00:40:33.860 obstructed

00:40:34.720 justice

00:40:35.120 while China

00:40:36.140 was told

00:40:37.220 that we

00:40:38.220 in Canada

00:40:38.960 never interfere

00:40:40.200 in the

00:40:40.460 justice process.

00:40:41.640 China is, 0.69

00:40:42.600 that decision

00:40:43.840 vindicates

00:40:44.860 China,

00:40:46.120 their gross

00:40:47.020 and vile

00:40:47.740 acts to

00:40:48.340 these two

00:40:48.920 wonderful men,

00:40:50.020 but they

00:40:50.580 sit there

00:40:51.080 now saying

00:40:51.580 we were

00:40:52.660 right.

00:40:53.960 Trudeau

00:40:54.340 obstructed,

00:40:55.820 Trudeau

00:40:56.100 told us

00:40:56.600 he doesn't,

00:40:57.480 he did,

00:40:58.160 a judge

00:40:58.700 said that

00:40:59.180 he obstructed,

00:41:00.160 and we

00:41:00.520 hold these

00:41:01.160 Canadians

00:41:01.880 in the

00:41:02.740 same

00:41:03.280 honor

00:41:04.140 or the

00:41:04.700 same

00:41:05.240 perspective

00:41:07.480 as they

00:41:08.220 hold our

00:41:08.900 citizen

00:41:09.340 from the

00:41:10.600 CEO of

00:41:11.140 Huawei,

00:41:12.520 and so

00:41:13.060 they sit

00:41:13.660 there and

00:41:13.980 say we're

00:41:14.640 doing the

00:41:15.100 same as

00:41:15.860 you are

00:41:16.360 because we

00:41:17.400 have a

00:41:17.720 legal judgment

00:41:18.300 and that

00:41:18.940 alone,

00:41:20.280 I mean,

00:41:20.680 God,

00:41:21.900 do Canadians 0.98

00:41:22.680 care there

00:41:23.300 are two

00:41:23.720 men that

00:41:24.960 are now

00:41:25.360 in jail

00:41:25.900 and the

00:41:26.520 Prime

00:41:26.800 Minister

00:41:27.060 should

00:41:27.400 resign,

00:41:28.360 the RSMP

00:41:29.100 should

00:41:29.360 investigate,

00:41:30.060 we should,

00:41:31.240 these men

00:41:32.180 are in

00:41:32.700 jail because

00:41:33.540 of the

00:41:34.440 Prime

00:41:34.740 Minister

00:41:35.040 acts

00:41:36.080 making it

00:41:37.020 worse and

00:41:37.940 worse and

00:41:38.680 worse for

00:41:39.140 them.

00:41:39.540 And I

00:41:39.760 can't

00:41:40.060 believe

00:41:40.280 people are

00:41:40.740 not as

00:41:41.080 upset.

00:41:41.660 I mean,

00:41:41.840 these could

00:41:42.220 be my

00:41:42.580 sons,

00:41:43.140 these could

00:41:43.480 be my

00:41:43.880 nephews,

00:41:44.640 these could

00:41:44.980 be,

00:41:45.400 and these

00:41:45.740 men did 0.64

00:41:46.200 absolutely

00:41:46.760 nothing except

00:41:47.480 get caught

00:41:48.360 in the

00:41:49.940 obstruction of

00:41:50.700 justice by

00:41:51.240 the Prime

00:41:51.620 Minister.

00:41:52.760 Well,

00:41:53.440 Manny,

00:41:53.760 it's incredible.

00:41:54.540 I know we

00:41:55.060 are only,

00:41:56.180 what,

00:41:56.300 about 75

00:41:56.900 days away

00:41:57.740 until the

00:41:58.720 next election,

00:41:59.400 and I am

00:42:00.600 worried he's

00:42:01.400 just going to

00:42:01.880 bluff and

00:42:02.380 brazen his

00:42:02.860 way out.

00:42:03.540 I truly

00:42:04.120 believe that

00:42:05.160 if the RCMP

00:42:06.020 does not

00:42:06.880 investigate Trudeau,

00:42:09.240 I think he's

00:42:10.580 going to get

00:42:10.920 away with it.

00:42:11.460 Yeah,

00:42:11.700 you've got a

00:42:12.200 few journalists

00:42:13.840 who are upset

00:42:14.600 about it,

00:42:15.100 Andrew Coyne and

00:42:16.120 Paul Wells has

00:42:17.260 obviously fallen out

00:42:18.140 of love with

00:42:18.640 Trudeau in recent

00:42:19.340 months,

00:42:19.900 but other than a

00:42:20.680 handful like that,

00:42:21.940 I see the Toronto

00:42:22.620 Star editorial board

00:42:24.120 has already forgiven

00:42:25.040 Trudeau.

00:42:25.980 By the way,

00:42:26.540 they're taking

00:42:26.960 $115,000 a week

00:42:28.920 from Trudeau's

00:42:30.140 bailout fund.

00:42:30.840 And I'm worried

00:42:31.880 he's going to

00:42:32.340 get away with

00:42:32.780 this,

00:42:33.020 and I'm worried

00:42:33.560 not just because

00:42:34.440 I don't like him

00:42:35.120 as a prime

00:42:35.520 minister,

00:42:35.900 but because of

00:42:36.560 the legacy

00:42:37.160 of corruption

00:42:38.260 in our rule

00:42:38.840 of law.

00:42:39.220 Last word to

00:42:39.740 you,

00:42:40.020 Manny,

00:42:40.200 it's great to

00:42:40.640 have you on

00:42:40.940 the show

00:42:41.200 again.

00:42:41.880 Thank you,

00:42:42.640 Ezra.

00:42:43.040 Listen,

00:42:43.640 Ezra,

00:42:44.080 I understand

00:42:45.020 Canadians to

00:42:46.400 be kind,

00:42:47.900 to be generous,

00:42:48.740 to be forgiven.

00:42:49.520 We are wonderful

00:42:50.540 people in that

00:42:51.200 sense.

00:42:51.920 But here we

00:42:52.560 have a person

00:42:53.520 that has had

00:42:55.000 13 priors,

00:42:57.440 13,

00:42:59.040 breaches a

00:42:59.700 separate section

00:43:00.440 of the

00:43:00.800 Conflict of

00:43:01.340 Interest Act

00:43:02.380 reported by

00:43:04.040 a judge.

00:43:04.340 And now we

00:43:05.080 have him

00:43:05.760 in the

00:43:06.640 height of

00:43:08.080 conflict of

00:43:09.280 interest,

00:43:09.960 in the height

00:43:10.620 of criminal

00:43:11.820 activity,

00:43:12.540 which is

00:43:12.760 obstruction of

00:43:13.380 justice 139.1.

00:43:14.860 And it is

00:43:16.100 clear that the

00:43:17.360 case has been

00:43:18.020 made.

00:43:19.040 And within

00:43:19.760 the investigation,

00:43:21.460 he obstructs

00:43:22.400 the investigator.

00:43:24.380 I mean,

00:43:24.800 it can't get

00:43:25.560 worse.

00:43:25.980 There is got

00:43:26.760 to be a

00:43:27.340 time in

00:43:28.240 Canadian

00:43:28.740 soul that

00:43:29.900 they've got

00:43:30.240 to say,

00:43:30.660 we've got

00:43:31.280 to respect

00:43:31.980 the rule

00:43:32.880 of law.

00:43:33.580 We've got

00:43:33.920 to put

00:43:34.300 Canada ahead.

00:43:35.340 If this

00:43:35.640 continues,

00:43:36.860 Ezra,

00:43:37.220 if this

00:43:37.720 doesn't end,

00:43:40.080 there's nothing

00:43:41.800 that the

00:43:43.080 prime minister

00:43:43.680 cannot do

00:43:44.960 in a new

00:43:45.700 mandate.

00:43:46.260 And it

00:43:46.520 scares me.

00:43:47.680 And Ezra,

00:43:48.860 we're watching.

00:43:49.660 It's amazing.

00:43:50.780 I don't

00:43:51.380 understand.

00:43:52.360 We're watching

00:43:52.900 what's happening

00:43:53.520 in China.

00:43:54.580 In China, 0.94

00:43:55.600 there was,

00:43:56.280 in Hong

00:43:56.880 Kong,

00:43:57.380 there was

00:43:57.920 no obstruction

00:43:59.560 of justice.

00:44:00.220 There's no

00:44:00.600 malfeasance.

00:44:01.420 It was just

00:44:02.040 a piece of

00:44:02.640 legislation that

00:44:03.860 was going

00:44:04.360 to kind

00:44:05.940 of remove

00:44:06.800 some of

00:44:07.260 the rights,

00:44:08.840 human rights

00:44:09.340 of the Hong

00:44:10.100 Kong citizen.

00:44:11.340 And the

00:44:11.740 millions are

00:44:12.900 on the

00:44:13.220 street.

00:44:13.520 They

00:44:13.680 understand,

00:44:14.740 you know,

00:44:15.280 they understand

00:44:15.960 what it is

00:44:16.660 to lose

00:44:17.080 your civil

00:44:17.500 rights.

00:44:17.780 In Canada,

00:44:19.000 we are not

00:44:19.780 only not

00:44:21.340 caring as

00:44:22.340 much,

00:44:22.780 but we're

00:44:23.180 allowing the 0.66

00:44:24.360 Malthasar

00:44:25.460 to continue.

00:44:26.960 And we

00:44:27.280 are,

00:44:27.700 you know,

00:44:27.960 we are

00:44:28.140 basically,

00:44:29.240 I almost

00:44:30.120 feel like

00:44:30.620 we are

00:44:30.960 lobsters or

00:44:32.520 frogs in

00:44:33.240 a hot water.

00:44:34.440 We just

00:44:34.720 turn up the

00:44:35.320 temperature and

00:44:36.520 we'll slowly

00:44:37.140 die and

00:44:37.660 nobody cares.

00:44:38.600 And there

00:44:38.900 goes he.

00:44:39.880 I wish we

00:44:40.740 had the same

00:44:41.140 love for

00:44:41.600 freedom that

00:44:42.260 those Hong 1.00

00:44:42.720 Kongese are 1.00

00:44:43.340 showing.

00:44:44.220 Manny,

00:44:44.620 it's great to

00:44:45.020 see you again.

00:44:45.620 Thanks for

00:44:45.920 taking the

00:44:46.360 time.

00:44:46.840 You're our

00:44:47.220 go-to expert

00:44:47.980 for these

00:44:48.420 matters and

00:44:48.900 it's great

00:44:49.180 to talk to

00:44:49.600 you again.

00:44:50.640 No problem,

00:44:51.140 Ezra.

00:44:51.340 Thank you.

00:44:51.880 Right on.

00:44:52.280 There's Manny

00:44:52.840 Montenegrino.

00:44:53.700 He's the

00:44:54.000 head of

00:44:54.320 ThinkSharp

00:44:55.220 and a

00:44:55.820 former lawyer

00:44:56.580 to Prime

00:44:57.320 Minister

00:44:57.620 Stephen Harper.

00:44:58.520 Stay with

00:44:58.800 us.

00:44:59.060 More ahead

00:44:59.340 on the

00:44:59.560 report.

00:45:10.200 Hey,

00:45:10.720 welcome back

00:45:11.120 on my

00:45:11.320 monologue

00:45:11.600 yesterday about

00:45:12.160 the government

00:45:12.480 running the

00:45:12.940 leaders'

00:45:13.260 debates and

00:45:13.660 blocking

00:45:14.060 Bernier from

00:45:15.080 participating.

00:45:15.800 Zuzanna

00:45:16.080 writes,

00:45:17.400 talk about

00:45:17.840 censorship,

00:45:18.540 excluding

00:45:18.840 Bernier from

00:45:19.400 the debates

00:45:20.640 is a

00:45:21.300 surefire sign

00:45:22.040 that all

00:45:22.360 the other

00:45:22.680 parties are

00:45:23.180 afraid of

00:45:23.640 him and

00:45:24.300 his message.

00:45:25.260 Many

00:45:25.440 Canadians

00:45:25.860 haven't even

00:45:26.300 heard of

00:45:26.600 Maxime and

00:45:27.060 might agree

00:45:27.480 with his

00:45:27.780 views.

00:45:29.240 Yeah,

00:45:29.520 well,

00:45:29.700 listen,

00:45:29.960 anything can

00:45:30.500 happen when

00:45:31.320 free speech

00:45:31.920 is afoot.

00:45:32.760 A good

00:45:33.260 idea might

00:45:33.800 even be

00:45:34.140 heard or

00:45:34.520 a bad

00:45:34.820 idea might

00:45:35.720 be heard

00:45:36.140 and debunked.

00:45:36.800 I don't

00:45:37.080 know.

00:45:39.180 All I can

00:45:40.140 think of,

00:45:40.520 though,

00:45:40.680 is if the

00:45:41.180 Bloc 0.99

00:45:41.400 Quebecois

00:45:42.140 leader is

00:45:43.120 allowed to

00:45:43.520 debate in

00:45:43.940 English but

00:45:44.440 Maxime

00:45:44.860 Bernier is

00:45:45.380 not,

00:45:45.820 something's

00:45:46.080 wrong.

00:45:47.800 Jonathan

00:45:48.020 writes,

00:45:48.360 if Bernier

00:45:49.220 had resigned

00:45:49.780 his seat in

00:45:50.240 the first

00:45:50.520 place,

00:45:51.100 ran as a

00:45:51.660 PPC in

00:45:52.360 the by-election

00:45:52.900 and won,

00:45:53.700 he would be

00:45:54.200 in the

00:45:54.400 debate.

00:45:54.700 But nope,

00:45:55.120 he did it

00:45:55.660 his way and

00:45:56.340 therefore doesn't

00:45:56.960 qualify.

00:45:58.120 Yes,

00:45:58.660 and that's my

00:45:59.140 point,

00:45:59.520 is that rule

00:46:00.020 was specifically

00:46:00.680 written in that

00:46:01.540 manner,

00:46:02.200 but by whom?

00:46:04.220 By Justin

00:46:05.040 Trudeau.

00:46:05.680 And that's my

00:46:06.200 point,

00:46:07.120 is that I do

00:46:07.740 not believe that

00:46:08.440 a player can

00:46:09.340 also be a

00:46:10.300 referee.

00:46:11.400 And I don't

00:46:11.860 believe that the

00:46:12.540 government should

00:46:13.780 decide who gets

00:46:14.640 to challenge the

00:46:15.860 government.

00:46:16.160 Now it sounds

00:46:16.740 to me like

00:46:17.240 you're probably

00:46:17.640 a conservative

00:46:18.200 who doesn't

00:46:19.060 like the risk

00:46:19.600 that Bernier

00:46:20.100 will split

00:46:20.680 votes from

00:46:21.700 the right.

00:46:22.500 And that is

00:46:23.020 a valid

00:46:23.480 concern.

00:46:25.040 But the

00:46:25.340 answer to

00:46:25.880 that is not

00:46:26.520 giving Justin

00:46:27.220 Trudeau control

00:46:28.100 of who can

00:46:29.120 and can't

00:46:29.560 be in a

00:46:29.920 debate.

00:46:31.180 I think it's

00:46:31.960 fairly obvious

00:46:32.680 only one of two

00:46:33.480 men will be 0.67

00:46:33.920 prime minister

00:46:34.500 on the night

00:46:36.100 of October 21st,

00:46:37.580 Justin Trudeau

00:46:38.300 or Andrew

00:46:38.740 Scheer.

00:46:39.000 I don't think

00:46:39.340 the math would

00:46:40.220 allow anything

00:46:40.820 else.

00:46:41.140 So obviously

00:46:41.580 I'm aware

00:46:42.200 of that.

00:46:42.660 but I

00:46:44.260 still want

00:46:44.780 Jagmeet Singh

00:46:45.400 to be allowed

00:46:46.040 in the debate

00:46:46.600 even though I

00:46:47.700 don't particularly

00:46:48.420 like him.

00:46:49.220 I don't know

00:46:50.320 if Elizabeth May

00:46:51.060 should be in

00:46:51.480 but she will

00:46:51.940 be in and

00:46:52.340 surely if she

00:46:53.180 should be in

00:46:53.660 surely Maxime

00:46:54.880 Bernier should

00:46:55.440 too.

00:46:55.760 Preston Manning

00:46:56.300 was in debates

00:46:57.320 before his

00:46:58.280 party,

00:46:59.240 before he had

00:47:00.540 a seat himself,

00:47:02.300 before his

00:47:02.960 party was a

00:47:03.900 force to be

00:47:04.380 reckoned with.

00:47:05.520 I don't know.

00:47:06.300 There's so many

00:47:06.700 examples here but

00:47:07.360 the main point

00:47:07.860 is whatever

00:47:09.000 the decision is

00:47:09.720 it should not

00:47:10.200 be that of

00:47:10.660 the liberal

00:47:11.020 prime minister.

00:47:12.660 On my

00:47:13.440 interview with

00:47:13.840 Kian Bextie

00:47:14.360 about his

00:47:14.720 trip to

00:47:15.020 Roxham Road

00:47:15.540 Liza writes

00:47:16.280 how much

00:47:17.600 conversation

00:47:18.160 about what

00:47:18.580 is going

00:47:18.880 on at

00:47:19.180 Roxham Road

00:47:19.800 and the

00:47:20.320 illegals coming 1.00

00:47:20.920 across will

00:47:21.440 happen in

00:47:21.880 the debates

00:47:22.260 without

00:47:22.920 Bernier?

00:47:23.880 Canadians

00:47:24.400 want an

00:47:24.760 address,

00:47:25.220 Canadians

00:47:25.480 want Bernier's

00:47:26.240 input on

00:47:26.680 it,

00:47:27.200 Canadians

00:47:27.480 want to

00:47:28.100 hear it

00:47:28.420 debated.

00:47:29.260 That's

00:47:29.560 exactly

00:47:29.940 right and

00:47:30.520 Bernier talks

00:47:32.100 about the

00:47:32.940 dairy cartel

00:47:33.960 and he also

00:47:34.640 talks about

00:47:35.340 the twiddle

00:47:35.840 lead

00:47:36.000 twiddle

00:47:36.300 dumb of

00:47:37.120 the liberals

00:47:37.460 and the

00:47:37.720 conservatives

00:47:38.100 on certain

00:47:38.540 key policies

00:47:39.140 and that

00:47:39.800 might sound

00:47:40.160 shocking to

00:47:40.740 conservatives

00:47:41.160 who really

00:47:41.620 believe that

00:47:42.400 Andrew Scheer

00:47:43.020 is the

00:47:43.480 anti-Trudeau

00:47:44.180 and in

00:47:45.580 some ways

00:47:46.040 he is

00:47:46.360 but in

00:47:46.700 many ways

00:47:47.380 important ways

00:47:48.020 he is

00:47:48.300 not.

00:47:49.400 I cannot

00:47:50.520 really tell

00:47:51.140 you a 0.57

00:47:51.360 difference

00:47:51.640 between

00:47:52.100 Andrew Scheer

00:47:52.920 and Justin

00:47:53.320 Trudeau

00:47:53.640 and immigration

00:47:54.180 on the

00:47:54.540 key issues

00:47:55.020 that matter

00:47:55.360 to me

00:47:55.680 at least

00:47:56.100 which is

00:47:56.780 the actual

00:47:57.120 number

00:47:57.600 of immigrants

00:47:58.820 whether or

00:48:00.580 not we

00:48:00.980 pretend that

00:48:02.140 immigrants

00:48:02.500 coming in

00:48:03.100 from the

00:48:03.960 United States

00:48:04.480 can actually

00:48:04.900 be refugees

00:48:05.720 the demographic

00:48:07.280 and national

00:48:07.940 mix of

00:48:08.520 immigrants

00:48:08.980 Andrew Scheer

00:48:09.980 is so

00:48:10.220 terrified of

00:48:10.760 those he

00:48:11.040 just says

00:48:11.340 yeah whatever

00:48:11.700 Trudeau says

00:48:12.240 I'm fine

00:48:12.700 with

00:48:12.940 there's no

00:48:14.220 meaningful

00:48:14.660 difference

00:48:15.120 there

00:48:15.380 so yeah

00:48:16.300 I actually

00:48:17.260 believe in

00:48:17.800 a debate

00:48:18.260 and that's

00:48:19.280 the one

00:48:19.620 hope I

00:48:20.080 have

00:48:20.260 I acknowledge

00:48:20.960 the risk

00:48:21.680 of Maxime

00:48:22.180 Bernier

00:48:22.440 is splittism

00:48:23.400 on the

00:48:24.180 right

00:48:24.360 but the

00:48:24.720 hope

00:48:25.060 that I

00:48:26.320 wish

00:48:27.200 I think

00:48:28.340 might offset

00:48:29.280 that risk

00:48:29.940 is that being

00:48:31.160 a full-throated

00:48:32.000 advocate for

00:48:32.800 true conservative

00:48:33.420 ideas

00:48:33.820 maybe that

00:48:34.740 would press

00:48:35.420 Andrew Scheer

00:48:36.220 to be a little

00:48:36.640 bit more

00:48:37.040 conservative

00:48:37.580 if it's just

00:48:38.560 the club

00:48:39.220 getting together

00:48:40.000 you won't hear

00:48:40.860 a real

00:48:41.200 conservative

00:48:41.660 word said

00:48:42.260 that's the

00:48:44.240 show for

00:48:44.980 today everybody

00:48:45.680 thanks for

00:48:46.180 tuning in

00:48:46.660 we should

00:48:47.780 have Hong Kong

00:48:48.540 reports with

00:48:49.160 its first

00:48:49.640 video

00:48:50.220 Avi Yamini

00:48:51.560 touchdown

00:48:52.020 today

00:48:52.460 there's a

00:48:53.260 time zone

00:48:53.720 difference

00:48:54.120 that I'm

00:48:54.400 trying to

00:48:54.760 figure out

00:48:55.180 we got to

00:48:55.620 edit the

00:48:55.940 videos and

00:48:56.380 put them up

00:48:56.760 but they

00:48:57.260 should be up

00:48:57.820 by tomorrow

00:48:58.140 I hope you

00:48:58.620 check those

00:48:59.020 out

00:48:59.180 I'm actually

00:48:59.740 pretty proud

00:49:00.340 that we sent

00:49:01.180 someone over

00:49:01.600 there

00:49:01.780 the total

00:49:02.240 cost of him

00:49:02.880 as cameraman

00:49:03.380 the hotel

00:49:04.360 taxis and

00:49:04.920 airfare is

00:49:05.400 about four

00:49:06.120 grand

00:49:06.340 I haven't

00:49:07.080 precisely

00:49:07.560 tallied up

00:49:08.380 if you want

00:49:08.700 to help us

00:49:09.080 please do

00:49:09.560 in any event

00:49:10.400 go to

00:49:10.700 hongkongreports.com

00:49:11.880 alright folks

00:49:12.480 that's it for

00:49:13.020 today

00:49:13.320 until next time

00:49:14.460 on behalf of

00:49:15.360 us here at the

00:49:15.960 Rebel World

00:49:16.480 Headquarters

00:49:16.940 to you at home

00:49:17.460 goodnight

00:49:17.800 and keep

00:49:18.580 fighting for

00:49:18.980 freedom

00:49:19.200 I'm

00:49:28.580 tim Mars

00:49:31.680 you

00:49:32.180 you

00:49:33.560 you

00:49:33.940 you

00:49:37.720 you

00:49:37.940 you

00:49:38.060 you

00:49:38.240 you

00:49:42.100 you

00:49:43.060 you

00:49:44.180 you

00:49:48.140 you

Rebel News Podcast - August 17, 2019

Trump throws support behind democracy protesters in Hong Kong — and the Rebel has sent a reporter there

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