Rebel News Podcast - TV and radio stations you don’t listen to want money from you regardless — through another Trudeau media bail-out

00:00:00.000 Hello my Rebels, did you see the news? According to Canada's TV and radio stations, up to 200 radio

00:00:08.400 stations are about to go out of business and 40 TV stations too. Now don't cheer, I hear the

00:00:14.380 cheering, don't cheer because those are people who have to get another job and I know there's a

00:00:20.700 million waiters and shopkeepers and normal people who have to get a job too, but let's not delight

00:00:26.640 in other people's misery. But of course these radio and TV stations are demanding a government

00:00:33.140 bailout again. I'll take you through their begging letter. But first let me invite you to become a 0.61

00:00:39.580 subscriber to Rebel News Plus. It's eight bucks a month and it's something that these other TV and

00:00:44.460 radio stations refuse to do because I don't think they have a connection with their viewers and

00:00:49.120 they've decided it's easier to ask for money directly from Trudeau than to try and convince

00:00:53.600 viewers one at a time. We take the opposite point of view. We don't bother asking Trudeau for money

00:00:58.120 that would compromise our ethics and our independence. So we ask you. So here's me asking.

00:01:03.880 Go to rebelnews.com, click on subscribe. It's eight bucks a month or 80 for the whole year

00:01:08.240 and it helps keep us strong and independent. Okay, here's the podcast.

00:01:13.040 Tonight, TV and radio stations you don't listen to are demanding money from you anyways through a

00:01:34.460 Trudeau bailout, just like the newspapers got. It's August 27th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:40.060 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:45.620 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:49.700 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:54.560 right to do so.

00:02:00.340 Do you trust radio and TV news? Guessing it depends on who you're listening to.

00:02:05.780 There are some voices out there on the CBC that I don't just mistrust. I know in my bones

00:02:12.280 they are active deceivers, that they are not the media at all in the Greek root of that word,

00:02:20.320 media, the middleman, to simply pass on to you what is happening in the world without a filter.

00:02:25.400 No, they are not about information. They're about disinformation.

00:02:29.060 Here's a CNN example just from the other day. Violent riots and arson in the Wisconsin city of

00:02:36.440 Kenosha torching the place and CNN says it's a mostly peaceful protest while the reporter is

00:02:42.840 literally standing in front of a riot. We'll talk more about that video clip later today with Joel

00:02:46.580 Pollack, but that's what I mean by misinformation. But my point is, I'm guessing that the past 10 or 20

00:02:53.360 years has taught you that you just can't trust the media, or as I call it, the media party, because it

00:02:59.080 travels in a pack. I remember growing up as a kid, this will date me, tell you how old I am,

00:03:03.780 we lived outside the city of Calgary, so we didn't have cable, which back then was only about a dozen

00:03:08.440 channels anyways. So we just had three channels that you could get over the air. Back then it meant

00:03:13.520 the CBC, obviously, and two private channels. That's it. Three TV channels. Imagine that narrow

00:03:19.340 bandwidth of opinion. Now the growth of talk radio in the 1990s really began to open up the conversation.

00:03:25.260 It let people talk back for the first time. It was a huge U.S. phenomenon, talk radio. Canada's CRTC

00:03:32.160 never really let talk radio flourish in Canada. They shut down any American voices pretty quickly

00:03:37.620 that were too rambunctious by threatening any Canadian radio station that allowed too much freedom

00:03:42.480 on their airwaves. They got rid of Dr. Laura. They got rid of Howard Stern, obviously. But still the

00:03:49.280 any difference, there was a time when talk radio across Canada was actually mainly conservative.

00:03:54.700 It's hard to believe now. It's a place conservatives could go in a way that TV would never let

00:03:59.120 right of center voices in. There was a time when newspapers allowed a diversity of voices too.

00:04:03.480 But that's when you had some competitors. In big cities, you sometimes had several newspapers.

00:04:09.000 The idea of them taking money from the government was unthinkable. Yeah, good times, eh?

00:04:14.860 Those were the days. Now it's the worst of all worlds. Post Media has a near monopoly

00:04:19.780 in English Canada and they're the biggest welfare case in the newspaper world too.

00:04:24.160 Obviously, the CBC is bigger than ever and now has more people in the news business at the CBC

00:04:29.080 than the rest of the Canadian news business combined. And obviously, it's more partisan than ever. I don't

00:04:34.860 even have to tell you this. The idea that the CBC's Ottawa politics reporter would sue the Conservative

00:04:40.580 Party in her own name in the middle of the election while still leading the coverage of that election 0.59

00:04:46.200 and that party is so shocking to normal people. The fact that it was surely approved by a dozen

00:04:51.460 senior managers at the CBC and surely approved by the Liberal government on the sly shows just how

00:04:57.160 far the media has tilted, not just to the left, but against the common sense of their viewers. But like I

00:05:01.620 say, just like conservatives and skeptics fled to talk radio in the 1990s, they fled to alternative

00:05:07.340 sources on the internet today. We at Rebel News are the biggest independent media company in Canada,

00:05:13.740 not because we're technologically the best or have the biggest staff. We still have plenty of amateur

00:05:20.540 moments to be candid, but we're number one because we're offering the other side of the story. We're

00:05:26.920 not regulated by the CRTC. You know, on Sunday night, we competed head to head with Rosemary Barton

00:05:32.340 and her massive staff and massive budget. When the Conservatives chose our new party leader,

00:05:38.740 just me, Sheila Gunn-Reed and our producer, Justin, just the three of us, it was pretty low tech.

00:05:44.540 We managed to get over a hundred thousand viewers that night. CBC got about 200,000 that night. And

00:05:51.160 then over the course of the week, it grew past 300,000. But that night we had 50% of the number of

00:05:59.080 viewers they had. They had 40 staff. They have a huge budget resources we just didn't have. And yet

00:06:06.680 people watched us because really what conservative would go to Rosemary Barton and the CBC for news

00:06:13.920 about the Conservatives? I would go to Rosemary Barton for news about her lawsuit against the

00:06:18.620 Conservatives. She's an expert in that. I'd actually like to ask her a fair number of questions about

00:06:22.800 that. Whose idea was it to sue the Conservatives? How long did she know she was going to be suing the

00:06:28.020 Conservatives before she revealed it to the public? And during that period of time, what

00:06:31.860 interviews did she do with Conservatives? What promises did she make, et cetera, when she was 1.00

00:06:36.300 holding that news secret from them? What conversations did she have with the Liberal Party about organizing

00:06:40.980 her lawsuit? So yeah, I am actually quite interested in Rosemary Barton's opinions about the Conservatives,

00:06:45.880 but the idea of trusting her to tell me that's straight news? Oh my God, I'm not the only one who

00:06:51.100 feels this way, by the way. As you can see, the CBC blocked their viewers from making any comments about

00:06:56.400 their broadcast that night. Just blocked it, just banned it. Why? Well, of course, because they know

00:07:01.120 viewers despise the CBC and their bias, and maybe more than a few would ask about Rosemary Barton's

00:07:07.000 disgraceful, disqualifying lawsuit. Our viewers were the best part of our show, and they actually paid

00:07:12.460 for our show through their voluntary Super Chat donations, that's what it's called. CBC doesn't need

00:07:17.020 to do that, though. They just take your money through your taxes, and if you don't pay your taxes to the

00:07:21.020 CBC, you go to jail. It's not just the CBC, though. It's all of the broadcasters in Canada.

00:07:26.800 They're also hyper-regulated. Other than banks and airlines and tobacco companies, I don't think

00:07:33.500 anything's more regulated in Canada than a CRTC-dominated broadcaster. What channels are offered,

00:07:41.520 at what price, to whom, on what terms, all of that stuff. And in return, these companies get tremendous

00:07:47.820 protection from the government. Mainly, their competitors are kept down. Like Sun News was

00:07:54.460 killed by the CRTC, and certainly Fox News wouldn't be allowed up here. Any competitor would be stopped

00:08:00.480 if it didn't toe the line. And remember, many of these TV channels aren't just broadcasters.

00:08:04.820 They own cable companies, they own cell phone companies, internet companies. So they're super

00:08:09.280 regulated, and they obviously care much more about cell phone money and cable and internet money

00:08:13.920 than any news channel. I mean, there's just so much more money on the internet side. So

00:08:17.660 they basically do whatever Justin Trudeau wants in their news stations, and they get taken care of

00:08:24.340 in return. Which is why normal people just don't watch them anymore for news. We find our own news

00:08:31.080 that's more trustworthy than CBC, CTV, Global, whatever. Global TV is truly worse than the CBC in many ways,

00:08:37.800 and they have a special hatred for us at the Rebel. I don't know why. Global News literally cheered on

00:08:42.340 the left-wing activist who punched our Sheila Gunn-Reed in the face during a women's march back 0.95

00:08:47.040 in 2017. They wouldn't even call Sheila a reporter. It was so gross. They did the same thing again

00:08:52.920 recently when David Menzies was attacked just a few weeks ago. I think that was in Peterborough,

00:08:58.800 or sort of Kingston. Global News is bizarre and weird. They're even more pro-Trudeau than the CBC.

00:09:04.080 They're trying to get something from Trudeau. I don't know what it is, but they're so weird these days.

00:09:08.760 And my point in all this is, if you chase Trudeau for bailout money, you'll wind up tailoring your

00:09:15.740 news coverage for him alone. And you'll leave behind millions of Canadians who really don't

00:09:21.020 want to hear about Trudeau, or his propaganda, or they just want journalists to be independent.

00:09:27.180 We all know we're being poorly served here by TV and radio in Canada. Why did a U.S. news magazine

00:09:33.800 have to break the news in our last election about Trudeau's blackface photos?

00:09:36.460 Because the Canadian media, who all had the photos and videos,

00:09:41.080 they refused to do it. It was incredible. The media party all knew. They all had those photos and

00:09:46.040 videos, but they were all in it together with their friend and paymaster, Justin Trudeau.

00:09:51.440 In fact, when an American news source broke the story, the media party in Canada threw more

00:09:56.620 reporters at grilling the Vancouver guy who passed the news on to an American journalist.

00:10:01.800 They spent more time grilling that guy than grilling Trudeau himself. The media was furious

00:10:06.100 that Canadians dared to go around the Canadian media gatekeepers. Yeah. Well, listen, you chose

00:10:12.400 your North Star, Trudeau. Even the National Post is getting really weird because of their Trudeau cash.

00:10:18.320 They've started a series that I've dubbed Tucker Carlson Watch. You can't even get Fox News or

00:10:23.280 Tucker Carlson in Canada unless you specially order it. CNN's in basic cable. But the National Post

00:10:28.700 is running Hillary Clinton style fact checks on Tucker Carlson in Canada. No, what are you doing?

00:10:36.140 From a conservative newspaper? No, not really. From a newspaper that takes 140 grand a week from

00:10:41.480 Trudeau. That's why. You see what I mean? Which brings me to today's news. Check out this.

00:10:45.480 This is from Global News. Here's their headline. Hundreds of Canadian radio TV stations could close

00:10:50.980 due to the coronavirus. Is that why? Hey, are you guys okay? Are all you media personalities over

00:10:58.180 there? Do you need a tissue or something? Do you want to take a moment? Here's CTV with the same news.

00:11:04.860 They say, media study says hundreds of Canadian radio stations, TV outlets risk closure.

00:11:10.900 Are you guys okay? CTV? Those are the people who said that hockey players in Canada are by nature racist.

00:11:18.180 I think it struck a nerve because I'm told he's a Canadian icon and he's a symbol of the great sport

00:11:23.060 of hockey, which is the sport that unites us across this country. And that narrative is the one that

00:11:30.580 strikes a nerve with me because I don't worship at the altar of hockey. I never have. And maybe it's

00:11:36.800 because of where I grew up, but there's a, and going to a couple different universities, there's a certain

00:11:41.300 type of person in my mind, in my experience who does. And they all tended to be white boys who weren't,

00:11:47.780 um, let's say very nice. They were not generally thoughtful. They were often bullies. Uh, their parents

00:11:53.780 were able to afford to put them, you know, spend $5,000 a year on minor hockey instead of $5,000, a lot of

00:11:59.620 money. You can do other things besides spending your time in an arena. You can go on a trip and learn about the world,

00:12:04.620 see other things, eh? You know, like it's, if the place is a, the world is a big place, maybe get

00:12:10.760 tight out of that bubble. And for me, Don Cherry is the walking and talking representative of that type.

00:12:17.560 I'm sure you guys might be going out of business. It's really, really sad. By the way, um, all these

00:12:22.460 stations reporting this news, they paid for this. I'll tell you in a second where this news is coming

00:12:26.980 from. They're not disclosing that in their headlines, are they? Hundreds of Canadian radio stations,

00:12:31.220 TV outlets, risk closure, says media study, 40 local television outlets, 200 Canadian radio stations

00:12:37.740 could close in the next three years. Now, I know, calm down. There's a lot of cheering going on.

00:12:42.920 CBC writes this with some delight because they'll be the last people standing because of course they

00:12:47.580 live completely off the government teat, $1.5 billion a year from Trudeau. They could survive

00:12:52.340 if they please literally just one single viewer, Justin Trudeau himself. They don't care what the

00:12:57.920 audience wants. They're laughing here. Now, before I read to you from this new study paid for by these

00:13:04.040 same media companies complaining about it, let me first say the obvious. Who cares? I'm not actually

00:13:11.760 happy that these people will be canceled. Even the ones who want you and me to be canceled, the ones who

00:13:17.220 call you and me racist or say that we deserve to be assaulted like David and Sheila were. I mean, look,

00:13:22.100 everyone's got to earn a living. It's just tough to care about TV personalities being canceled when

00:13:28.360 they love to cancel other people. It's like Wendy Mesley, the disgraced former broadcaster

00:13:33.420 at the CBC. She made a living calling people racist falsely. Federal government cut your funding

00:13:40.220 for research. Rebel Media came in and did a crowdfunding project for you, raised about $200,000.

00:13:47.280 After Charlottesville and the riots, the protests there, many people cut ties with Rebel Media,

00:13:56.280 including the Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, saying that it could be seen as giving hate

00:14:01.000 groups a platform. You still go on there. So I'm wondering, why do you go on Rebel Media after

00:14:08.880 Charlottesville? You don't think we should talk to people on the right?

00:14:11.500 Turns out it was all projection again and again. When the cameras were off, Wendy Mesley used the

00:14:17.720 N-word to describe black people. And the CBC knew she would use this word in meetings at the CBC

00:14:23.740 again and again. And it was cool with them. It was only when her misconduct leaked that she was

00:14:30.760 finally fired. So the CBC didn't care about the fact she was using the N-word. They just cared

00:14:35.220 about the fact that it leaked to the public they were embarrassed. Same thing with Global News.

00:14:38.780 They call everybody to the right of Trudeau racist. Well, lookie, lookie, look at this news just

00:14:45.500 today. According to this story, Troy Reeb, the boss of Global News, simply fires visible minority

00:14:52.600 journalists who complain about racism at Global News. At least the CBC fired the racist. Troy Reeb,

00:15:00.520 the VP of Global News, fired the victims of racism. So I guess he got rid of the racism because he got

00:15:06.680 rid of the minorities, huh? I don't know. He'll probably get away with it just like Trudeau gets 0.99

00:15:12.300 away with blackface. But back to the news today. So this study paid for by these broadcasters 0.98

00:15:17.540 shows that 40 television outlets and 200 radio stations could be gone. That's what the Canadian

00:15:22.440 Association of Broadcasters. And again, to which I say, look, these folks have lived off a government

00:15:27.240 monopoly for decades. It has been illegal to compete with them. You had to listen to them. You were forced

00:15:33.820 to. So they took their customers for granted. I mean, what are you going to do? Listen to someone

00:15:38.280 else? Ha ha, you can't. It won't work. That's the argument when I was a kid watching the three channels.

00:15:43.460 But the argument started to fall apart a little bit when satellite radio became a thing. And now that

00:15:48.780 argument's just dust. Now that we have a thousand radio and TV stations in our hand, in our cell phone.

00:15:54.760 Listen to anything, watch anything, anytime, anywhere there's Wi-Fi or cell phone service. You know, most of the

00:15:59.820 people who watch our Rebel videos are watching on their phones. Isn't that amazing? So why would

00:16:04.960 people watch our stuff? More than a half a billion views on YouTube alone. But why are they abandoning

00:16:11.560 the government-regulated media, according to this report? Well, the question sort of answers itself,

00:16:17.220 doesn't it? But back to the thesis. So some companies are going to shut down. Let me ask the what?

00:16:22.800 30%, 50%, 70% of Canadian restaurants that will not survive this pandemic lockdown. Let me ask them

00:16:30.100 if they care about some dilettantes and radio and TV overpaid, pompous prats. Let me ask them if they 0.91

00:16:36.700 care. Let me ask the mom and pop shops being shut down. While Jeff Bezos just hit $200 billion,

00:16:42.660 congratulations. He's the first human ever to hit $200 billion because the pandemic has made people stop

00:16:48.340 shopping in their communities because the government won't let them. So people just order stuff from

00:16:53.140 China via this guy. Now he's worth $200 billion. So yeah, I do care about your jobs, you overpaid

00:17:00.200 soft hands TV stars. Sure, I care. But can you please get in line? Because there's about a million

00:17:06.600 other people who lost their jobs because of the government's lockdown that I care about more than

00:17:11.600 you. People who didn't live off the government's regulatory largesse in the first place.

00:17:16.040 Working class people who do real things, not just blather for a living. Sure, I care that the

00:17:21.580 screeching woman from the social is in jeopardy. And they all tended to be white boys who weren't, 0.89

00:17:27.740 um, let's say, very nice. Yes, I deeply care about her and her $100,000, $200,000, $300,000, $400,000 a job.

00:17:35.580 She's about millionth in line, though, for the who do I care about department. And the hilarious thing 1.00

00:17:42.300 about this new study bought and paid for by the same TV and radio stations, by the way.

00:17:46.040 So you know, it's independent and unbiased. I can't even believe this. They put this in print

00:17:51.120 to actually blame the pandemic. I'm not kidding. You know, Netflix, Disney Plus, they've all had

00:17:56.740 record breaking months since March, because everyone's locked at home watching more TV than ever. Some,

00:18:04.760 you know, same reason Amazon and Apple are at record heights. You know, Apple's the first

00:18:07.880 $2 trillion company by market capitalization. Amazon's doubled its wealth since the pandemic,

00:18:14.360 because people are shut down. They're just clicking away on their phones. So, um, Disney,

00:18:20.200 Netflix record, uh, revenues, but Canada's TV and radio companies are claiming that the pandemic is

00:18:26.440 killing them. You little liars. It's what could have saved you if you actually gave viewers what 0.97

00:18:33.580 they want and people are so hungry for stuff. Here's the cover of this report that was bought

00:18:38.840 by the TV and radio companies. There are some accidentally honest parts to it, I admit.

00:18:43.880 Look at this. In the 21st century, the media market has changed and consumers choose from content in a

00:18:49.900 relevant market that includes far more than just local or national broadcasters. Yeah, that's code for

00:18:55.120 people can't be forced to watch us now. They're free now, not trapped like I was growing up with

00:19:00.420 the three channels. Um, and these broadcasters wish they could stop that. I'll read some more.

00:19:07.300 One result of that increased competition is that traditional advertising based media

00:19:11.320 no longer grow in tandem with general economic indicators. A danger signal for the future of

00:19:16.600 those media. A danger signal? You know, YouTube has demonetized us for political reasons. They barely

00:19:22.780 allow any ads on us because we're conservative. So we survive because our audience chooses to give us

00:19:29.880 money. You, if you're watching this, are giving us $8 a month for a subscription. Thank you. We crowdfund

00:19:35.620 all the time. The media party knows that would never work for them because they antagonize their

00:19:39.720 viewers and they suck up to power. Do you think the CBC could live off the voluntary support of

00:19:45.020 Canadians? If you don't, don't you think that's a problem? And if you do, I mean, I laugh at you if

00:19:51.100 you think that, but hey, I'm glad you're so confident. Why don't we give it a try? I mean, these are people

00:19:57.760 who are so scared of their own viewers, they ban comments on their own YouTube channels. But sure,

00:20:02.640 yeah, those people you banned would voluntarily chip in to be abused by Rosemary Barton or that 0.98

00:20:07.540 racist Wendy Mansley or that awful hockey defamer on CTV. Look, I'm not going to go through this

00:20:12.240 whole whining document. I'll just get straight to the part that's about you. Not about what you care

00:20:17.420 about, not what you'd actually like to listen to or watch. These broadcasters don't actually talk

00:20:22.500 about that for one second in this huge begging letter. They only talk about the reason they

00:20:28.340 care about you, your money. They know they can't convince you to give it to them in subscriptions

00:20:34.440 or crowdfunding. So they're going straight to Justin Trudeau to beg him to wring it out of you.

00:20:39.120 Here, I'll read a bit.

00:20:39.680 To start the discussion, here are three possible suggested actions. Given the urgency of the

00:20:45.860 situation, two of the three need to be done almost immediately. And the third needs to start almost

00:20:51.060 immediately, but will likely have a 12-month time frame. Number one. First, we have seen that

00:20:56.220 current federal government pandemic economic assistance programs might cover only part of

00:21:00.100 the monthly revenue losses hitting private radio and private conventional television. Additional forms

00:21:04.300 of assistance should be devised and implemented as quickly as possible because those local stations

00:21:09.520 are important and in some cases the only source of local news. So they want immediate money before

00:21:15.300 parliament can resume because they deserve it. Certainly more than any blue-collar worker, more than any

00:21:21.720 waitress or clerk does, because they're better than you, don't you know? Second, starting immediately 0.99

00:21:28.660 right now and to cover at least the next two broadcast fiscal years. Oh, okay. There must be regulatory

00:21:34.300 relief for private radio and television stations to recognize the impact of the economic disruption

00:21:39.200 on their ability to fulfill certain conditions of license and to recognize the need for modifications

00:21:43.860 in operating arrangements that might help to realize cost savings. So these folks want fewer regulations 0.96

00:21:49.360 on them. And hey, I agree. But you know, it was journalists from these same TV and radio stations that, for example,

00:21:56.800 voted to ban Rebel News and other journalists from press galleries. So they like regulations for the people they hate.

00:22:03.020 The CRTC, it was them who banned Sun News. So you see, these radio stations and TV stations, they want regulations

00:22:09.980 that they have to live under, lessened, weakened. But they want more protections from their competitors

00:22:15.520 and they personally ban competitors like us. It goes on, I'm not going to bore you, I just want you to know

00:22:21.220 that Canada's official journalists don't even care about what you think anymore. They know they've lost you.

00:22:27.180 Not just on the news side, but on the entertainment side. You can count Canadian TV successes on one

00:22:33.420 hand's fingers. And each of those was the result of massive government subsidies. People just don't

00:22:38.880 care about CanCon anymore. Remember that phrase, Canadian content? People watch what they want to

00:22:44.120 watch. They listen to what they want to listen to. They don't care where people are from. You can't force

00:22:48.120 people to listen to official things anymore. Kids these days don't even know what you're talking about

00:22:52.720 if you talk about that. The irony is that Canadians have actually always been very successful in the

00:22:58.540 media. I'd say disproportionately successful, but usually only after leaving the country. Perhaps

00:23:04.420 the most successful comedy show in America is Saturday Night Live, run for decades by a Canadian

00:23:10.440 named Lorne Michaels. How many Hollywood stars are from Canada who come up once in a while to Toronto

00:23:17.260 or Vancouver to shoot a film in return for tax credits that we throw at them, and then they head right

00:23:21.960 back onto L.A. This report is a last wheezy gasp by the media party. Not to improve their product. They

00:23:30.240 don't even talk about that. Not to appeal to their viewers. That ship has sailed. Not to reach out to

00:23:36.060 customers. No, no, no. They are long past that. They're not that crazy. This is the last gasp by the media

00:23:43.620 party to get Trudeau to bail them out. Again. Again. I mean, he just threw tens of millions of dollars

00:23:53.000 at them last month in July. But you know what? It's August already. And there's another election

00:24:00.740 coming up. You can better believe Trudeau's going to pony up. I mean, wouldn't you if you were Trudeau?

00:24:07.360 I mean, what's another billion dollars more to throw on the bonfire? In the past, the media had

00:24:13.320 too much self-respect to act like such brazen hussies. They don't anymore, do they? Stay with us for 1.00

00:24:20.900 more. Christine, Laura, what you're seeing behind me is one of multiple locations that have been

00:24:37.320 burning in Kenosha, Wisconsin over the course of the night. A second night since Jacob Blake was seen

00:24:44.200 shot in the back seven times by a police officer. And what you are seeing now, these images,

00:24:50.900 came and come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha

00:24:57.040 and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law

00:25:01.240 enforcement. It wasn't until night fell that things began to get a little bit more contentious.

00:25:05.380 Things were thrown back and forth. Police started using some of those crowd dispersal tactics like

00:25:10.680 tear gas, even playing very loud sounds to push them out. And then what you are seeing,

00:25:16.480 the common theme that ties all of this together is an expression of anger and frustration over what

00:25:21.760 people feel like has become an all too familiar story. Did you see what was on the screen in that

00:25:27.640 CNN clip? They called it fiery, but mostly peaceful protests. They didn't use the word riot. And they

00:25:36.300 didn't say arson or torture. They said it's fiery, but mostly peaceful. And in the other screen,

00:25:42.540 missile outs, including fireworks, I should tell you, being shot at police. And CNN says, oh, no, this is

00:25:50.160 very mostly peaceful, just incredible, unbelievable. And all this happening in the background as Donald

00:25:56.840 Trump has his Republican Party's convention, which has been very successful in terms of

00:26:02.240 elocuting a positive message. At least that's how it looks to me. And according to audience

00:26:08.460 statistics, six times more people watching the Republican convention than its Democrat counterpart.

00:26:13.700 Joining us now to talk about this is one of our best Sherpas on American politics. And he's the

00:26:20.040 author of the new book, which I recommend. It's called Red November. Will the country vote red for

00:26:25.540 Trump or red for socialism? I'm talking about Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.

00:26:30.300 Joel, great to see you again.

00:26:32.080 You too. I like that. I'm the Sherpa of conservative analysis. That's great. That means I get to carry all the

00:26:37.800 baggage. You know, a Sherpa when I was a law student who was driving a taxi in Boston. He told me he was

00:26:44.940 from Nepal and I saw his ID on the visor and his last name was Sherpa. And it turned out he came from

00:26:51.380 a family of Sherpas in the Himalayas, the real deal. So. Well, that's incredible. Well, you are our Sherpa

00:26:58.040 because you're helping guide us through these mountain passes. Well, you will reach the summit. I have no

00:27:03.220 doubt. Well, thank you very much. So much going on. The riots in Kenosha, which is not a big city. It's

00:27:10.460 not a very, it's not a traditionally urban or black city. I think it's, it's a pretty small town,

00:27:17.720 regular kind of place, but it has Black Lives Matter style riots that have torched the place. 0.99

00:27:22.300 What are your quick thoughts on that? Well, that part of Wisconsin is very interesting. So it's right

00:27:29.240 by the Illinois border. I know it pretty well because I grew up in the northern suburbs of

00:27:33.560 Chicago. So if you ever drove to Milwaukee or took the train, you went through Kenosha and it has outlet

00:27:40.660 malls. It is a gateway to southern, southwestern Wisconsin. It's about half an hour or so south of

00:27:49.100 Milwaukee. And there are actually some black communities up there. There's a large black community

00:27:54.640 on the Illinois side of the border in the city of Waukegan. And Kenosha has a black community.

00:28:00.040 And also Sturtevant is a town nearby where there's a large black middle class community

00:28:05.700 in a somewhat rural slash suburban area. So the Midwest is not what the coastal stereotype would

00:28:12.820 have you believe. It's actually quite diverse. That district was Paul Ryan's district when he was

00:28:17.040 speaker of the house, when he was still in Congress. And he made a point of reaching out to the black

00:28:21.180 communities of that region, as well as the Latino communities in the area. So a really interesting

00:28:26.440 part of the country and absolutely spectacularly beautiful in the summertime. It's just a shame that

00:28:31.780 everything is happening as it is. But if it can happen in Kenosha, it can happen anywhere. And the

00:28:38.860 shooting that started it all began on Sunday. Jacob Blake, age 29, was shot by police in a confrontation.

00:28:46.340 Much was made out of the fact that he was shot in the back, which is true. And he was reported widely

00:28:53.400 as having been unarmed. That turns out not to be true, or very likely not to be true. The eyewitness

00:28:59.460 who recorded the infamous cell phone video said that police were shouting at him to drop the knife,

00:29:04.600 drop the knife. And the state prosecutors have determined after an investigation that he

00:29:11.200 did in fact have a knife with him. It was recovered from the floorboard of the car.

00:29:16.800 And remember, he was shot as he was reaching into the car. He opened the driver's side door and was

00:29:20.500 reaching for something as if on the seat or on the floor. So police were confronted by a man who was

00:29:27.180 very likely armed. He also had scuffled with them before. There's a video from a different angle that

00:29:31.420 shows him fighting with police. And apparently they had attempted to tase him, that is to use non-lethal

00:29:36.820 stun weapons. And they don't work on everybody. Some people escape. Some people just get lucky.

00:29:44.600 The taser misses. It only has a couple of cartridges or a couple of darts in it. So he kept resisting

00:29:51.740 arrest and evading. And that's what led to the situation. Almost all of these bad situations

00:29:55.760 involve people resisting arrest. And whether they're white or black, we had a case here in California

00:30:02.000 a few years ago in Fresno, a white teenager who was shot by police in similar circumstances.

00:30:07.180 Resisting arrest is the common denominator. But the other common denominator in these cases is fake

00:30:11.900 news. And so you have fake news telling everyone that this guy is unarmed and so forth, that he was

00:30:18.220 simply shot by police while he was in his car. You know, all of these false characterizations of the

00:30:24.080 circumstances. We were also told that he was simply intervening in a domestic dispute somewhere else.

00:30:28.620 Turns out that the woman who was living at the address to which the police came had actually

00:30:34.300 called the police because he was not supposed to be there. Evidently, there's some history between

00:30:38.340 them. And he had a warrant out for his arrest. He was charged with sexual assault, among other

00:30:45.900 crimes. And the police had been looking for him for almost two months. That on top of reports in local

00:30:52.480 media that he had a prior arrest for violent behavior involving a gun. So police knew all this.

00:30:58.620 And in that previous occasion, apparently, he had to be subdued with a police dog because he also

00:31:03.880 resisted arrest. So this gentleman, as many other positive qualities as he may have had, had a history

00:31:10.720 of violence and run-ins with the law. And police knew all that or likely knew all that when they

00:31:16.600 tried to apprehend him. And all of that, if it were known, if people had waited for the facts,

00:31:22.840 would have taken some of the sensationalism out of the protests. But the first night you had protests,

00:31:28.300 you had riots, people looting, people burning. The next morning, Joe Biden put out a statement

00:31:33.700 condemning the police and saying nothing about the violence, nothing about the riots. So that evening,

00:31:40.080 Monday night, I don't want to necessarily say there's a causal relationship, although certainly

00:31:44.500 Biden could have at least made the protests seem illegitimate when they became violent. He could have

00:31:51.080 at least urged peaceful protests. He didn't do that. So Monday night, the city basically went up in flames.

00:31:55.880 At least 10 buildings in the downtown area, which is called Uptown, burned to the ground,

00:32:00.660 including a charitable organization, a furniture store, just mom-and-pop shops, totally torched,

00:32:07.600 looted. And there were reports of gunshots, people starting to bring weapons to some of these protests.

00:32:14.020 On Tuesday, there was an actual shooting or series of shootings. A young fellow has been

00:32:20.040 arrested, a young man from Illinois, 17-year-old fellow. And he was in Kenosha. We're not sure why,

00:32:28.300 but he came and was clearly very into the idea of standing up for the business owners, standing up

00:32:35.180 for the town against the rioters. I caught the fact that he was shown in a Getty Images photograph,

00:32:42.500 not by name. They didn't know who he was. But earlier in the day, he had been photographed on the

00:32:45.860 news wires, removing graffiti from a public building. So he was clearly there to help out in whatever way

00:32:52.880 he thought he was helping. But he brought his AR-15. I'm not sure if he owned it legally. And, you know,

00:32:59.280 good advice generally, as whatever his intentions might have been, avoid riots. Nobody's helping by

00:33:04.460 showing up during a riot. The police are there for a reason. And even if the police aren't there,

00:33:08.480 it really isn't your business. Because if you bring weapons to help people who haven't asked you for

00:33:13.020 their help, apparently, all you're doing is inflating the possibility of danger. And he seems

00:33:18.620 to be a young guy who was very into police. That's the only known ideology we really have. He went to

00:33:24.240 a Trump rally, apparently, according to BuzzFeed. There have been all kinds of false reports circulating

00:33:28.240 about him being a white supremacist. There's no evidence of that whatsoever. It could turn out that

00:33:32.340 he is, but there was no evidence of that, at least up until now. And he turns out to be a teenager

00:33:40.300 from Illinois. They arrested him in Illinois, from Antioch, Illinois. And he got himself into a

00:33:45.940 confrontation. It's not sure who started it. It's not clear who started it. But if you watch the videos,

00:33:50.360 it's clear he's being attacked in both cases where he fired his weapon at someone. The first person who

00:33:56.680 attacked him, he shot him in the head. Then he started running. Not immediately. It appears he called

00:34:01.660 someone, perhaps the police, and reported that he had shot someone. And then he was chased by a mob.

00:34:06.260 He was viciously attacked. And then he shot one of the attackers dead and shot the other in the arm.

00:34:12.080 The one who was shot in the arm, who lost a significant portion of his biceps and his forearm,

00:34:17.260 was holding a pistol, a pistol drawn. So this was not some kind of random mass shooting. The

00:34:24.000 Washington Post described it as shooting into a crowd of people. That's not what happened.

00:34:28.060 This was a confrontation between rioters and an armed person who probably shouldn't have been there

00:34:32.700 and shouldn't have been armed because he had no business standing in front of somebody else's

00:34:36.680 business. Essentially, it was a form of vigilantism. He wasn't looking necessarily. We don't know this.

00:34:41.040 We don't know his motives. He wasn't necessarily looking for someone to shoot. But he was certainly

00:34:45.400 in way over his head. That's what we seem to know so far about the situation. Regardless,

00:34:52.480 the overall truth of this is that Democrats in Wisconsin have allowed the situation to become

00:34:58.420 out of control. President Trump, the day before the shooting on Tuesday, offered a full contingent

00:35:04.680 of the National Guard, federal law enforcement. The Democratic governor, Tony Evers, declined.

00:35:09.760 They did accept a couple of hundred, I think, 250 National Guard troops, but they only deployed

00:35:14.220 late. And they did not accept, I think, the 1,500 that Trump had offered. The next day,

00:35:19.160 the governor accepted the full contingent of National Guard and federal law enforcement.

00:35:23.020 But that reluctance may have also contributed to the disorder or at least allowed the disorder to go

00:35:29.700 on Tuesday night. Wednesday night, there were more protests. The media described these protests as

00:35:34.900 peaceful, just like they described the second night of protest as peaceful. That is to say,

00:35:39.280 the night where things were burnt down. So in other words, first night, there's sort of protests and

00:35:44.280 riots. Second night, burning a lot of things. Third night, the shootings. And fourth night, last night,

00:35:50.020 Wednesday night, you have protests that are described as peaceful. But although there's no

00:35:54.960 physical confrontations, a synagogue was vandalized, a church was vandalized.

00:36:00.000 Now we're coming to my point. Our media do not understand what peaceful protest is. Peaceful

00:36:06.240 protests aren't just the absence of physical violence. Violence to property, first of all, is violence.

00:36:12.840 It's not peaceful. Secondly, there's a difference between peaceful protest and lawful protest.

00:36:17.320 Now, repressive societies write the laws or apply the laws such that almost no form of protest is

00:36:24.080 allowed. But that's not the kind of society we live in. We live in a society where the government's

00:36:29.040 ability to restrict protest is very, very limited. And so most protests, once they are permitted,

00:36:35.940 will be lawful. The reason you apply for a permit is that you're not the only person with rights.

00:36:39.700 There are other people with rights, rights of freedom of speech, rights of freedom of assembly.

00:36:42.700 We don't want demonstrators and counter demonstrators to encounter each other suddenly.

00:36:46.860 You have to coordinate a large protest with local authorities to make sure that everybody is safe

00:36:53.000 and that everybody's rights are respected. Well, none of these protests are lawful. And in fact,

00:36:58.040 in Wisconsin, there's been a curfew after 8 p.m. each of these nights. So the media call them

00:37:02.920 peaceful protests, but they're often held in deliberate violation of the curfew. So this never

00:37:08.680 ends well because the media are morally, indefensibly excusing these anarchist protests,

00:37:16.380 whether they're ideologically anarchist, behaviorally anarchist, they just defy all authority

00:37:21.160 and they show utter contempt for the rights of those in the community around them. These protests are

00:37:25.520 just going on everywhere. And we're supposed to be satisfied merely if nobody gets shot or hurt or

00:37:30.660 there's no looting. That's the low standard the media are applying. The civil rights movement didn't

00:37:35.760 work that way. When Martin Luther King led people in the streets or led people at lunch counter

00:37:40.480 demonstrations and sit-ins and that sort of thing, the theme was nonviolence. And that meant

00:37:46.140 that you could not do anything destructive. And that was the power of the protest, that when people

00:37:51.680 were arrested or when they were beaten by police or attacked by police dogs or sprayed with water

00:37:55.880 hoses, it was clear the violence was being done to them for the simple fact that they were expressing 0.79

00:38:02.800 themselves. They were exercising their rights. The reason that was so effective was people saw that

00:38:07.540 on television and recoiled in horror and immediately felt sympathy and empathy for the civil rights

00:38:12.700 protesters. And that changed the minds of an entire generation. And that's what peaceful protest is.

00:38:18.320 None of these protests has been peaceful. None of them, because they've not followed the law. And

00:38:22.760 the Democrats know this. They know the difference. They spoke very eloquently at John Lewis's funeral last

00:38:27.380 month about Satyagraha, the philosophy of nonviolent protest and all of that. And yet, this is where we

00:38:34.680 are today. Yeah. So it's like Gandhi and his protests. It only works when the people you're protesting

00:38:41.440 against have high ethics and high morals. And you're sort of showing their own conduct is against their own

00:38:47.820 ethics. I mean, Gandhi only works against the British Empire. Gandhi doesn't work against the Soviet Union,

00:38:53.820 the Nazis, or Mao. And I think the same thing with the American civil rights movement in the past.

00:38:59.120 It worked precisely because they were appealing to the better angels of American sentiment, ethics,

00:39:05.740 and ideals. Here, there's no such thing with the gratuitous, lustful violence of the left.

00:39:12.620 And I know you've got to run really quickly, but let me show you a clip from the same CNN, Don Lemon,

00:39:18.340 when he started to realize that maybe these riots aren't quite having the political effect

00:39:25.340 he wishes they had. And now he's a little worried that they're hurting the Joe Bidens of the world.

00:39:31.300 Here, take a quick look at this. I do think that this, what you said, what's happening in Kenosha

00:39:37.480 is a Rorschach test for the entire country. And I think this is a blind spot for Democrats. I think

00:39:44.440 Democrats are ignoring this problem. We're hoping that it will go away. And it's not going to go

00:39:48.980 away. And so, unless someone comes up with a solution over the next 73 days, or 70 so, however many

00:39:57.460 days. 68 days. 68 days. So it's not going to, the problem is not going to be fixed by then. But what

00:40:04.440 they can do, and I think maybe Joe Biden may be afraid to do it. I'm not sure. Maybe he won't. Maybe

00:40:11.720 he is. He's got to address it. He's got to come out and talk about it. I think that's another way

00:40:17.640 of saying that the focus groups are showing severely normal Americans, moderate Americans, even

00:40:23.060 Democrat leaners, they're appalled by this violence and the fact that Joe Biden will take a knee and

00:40:29.220 wait three days before saying anything about burning Kenosha. Yeah, the polls are terrible. And keep in

00:40:36.620 mind, Don Lemon said that less than 24 hours after that clip you showed in the beginning of CNN trying

00:40:43.900 to say that all these protests with flames behind him, they're all peaceful. The polls must be

00:40:53.040 terrible and Democrats are quickly losing control of the narrative. The fact is they had four days

00:40:57.540 during their convention to condemn the violence, to condemn the riots, and they didn't do so. Biden

00:41:02.560 waited three days to condemn the riots in Kenosha. They have lost the public on this, and they're

00:41:08.000 starting to panic. And you're seeing the New York Times and CNN starting to raise the alarm. The New

00:41:12.020 York Times saying that we've already seen a shift in voting behavior, or at least a shift in opinion

00:41:20.500 among voters in Wisconsin in response to all this, because they feel the Democrats can't control it.

00:41:25.240 So Biden and the Democrats were hoping people would vote for them to calm everything down. Now Biden

00:41:32.400 and the Democrats look like they're the ones who are keeping everything going, and keeping the

00:41:39.100 riots going, keeping the violence going. And so Trump is the only person who can calm things down. And I'll

00:41:43.900 have to leave you there, but we'll watch the fourth night of the convention with interest.

00:41:47.300 Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com. Thank you for your time, my friend. Appreciate you

00:41:51.660 joining us. Thank you. There you have it. May I encourage you to get Joel's book. It's called

00:41:55.920 Red November. Will the country vote red for Trump? Or red for socialism? And it couldn't be more topical

00:42:03.100 and hot than it is. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:42:16.880 Hey, welcome back. On my monologue on the Republican National Convention, Andrea writes,

00:42:21.620 A huge difference, in my opinion, from the Democrat convention was that the Republicans are not in

00:42:26.380 victimhood mode. They are proud to be American, and we're open about it. Thanks for showing these

00:42:30.820 clips, Ezra. Yeah, not in victimhood mode. And I saw, I think it was Frank Luntz, the pollster,

00:42:36.940 who noted that the message is so much more positive. It wasn't even attacking the Democrats. Like,

00:42:43.580 you can be positive about the country, but negative about your opponents. This was just positive

00:42:48.360 messaging, happy, building, prosperous, safety, multicultural. Like, it was positive messages.

00:42:54.860 It wasn't even attack, attack, attack. So not only were they proud Americans, but they weren't even

00:42:58.800 dignifying the Democrats with attacks. I think people can see the riots and get the Democrat point

00:43:04.200 of view themselves. On Sheila and Keen getting accredited to work in the Alberta legislature,

00:43:08.840 Rudy writes, Many congrats to you guys. Good for you. This is only the beginning of greater things to

00:43:14.800 come. Keep up the good work. I was very excited about it, and hopefully we will have more freedom

00:43:20.680 in the press victories. It's just sort of sad that we have to fight in the court of law to be able to

00:43:26.020 do our journalism in the court of public opinion. Like, I just thought we were starting a journalism

00:43:30.160 company when we started Rebel News. I didn't think we'd have to spend tens of thousands of dollars a

00:43:34.200 month fighting for the right to do journalism through lawyers and bodyguards. Doc writes,

00:43:40.260 Well, congrats. But they'll still try to stop your truth somehow, I imagine. I'm afraid you could be

00:43:46.020 correct. It'll be very interesting to me to see how the other journalists treat Sheila and Keen,

00:43:53.340 if they're petty, abusive, negative. I mean, this is just like high school folks. The little

00:43:59.420 Mean Girls Club voted to ban Sheila and Keen, but the principal came and said, No, you don't. So let's 0.99

00:44:05.480 see if the Mean Girls are still as petty as ever. I unfortunately think they will be. We'll see. 1.00

00:44:10.180 It's funny, though, because Post Media has ordered their journalists in Edmonton just to shut up

00:44:16.180 about all this stuff. It was a great embarrassment to the company, especially Tyler Dotson, who was

00:44:21.040 forced to resign from the press gallery by his employer, National Post. It'll be interesting to

00:44:25.340 see if he vents his rage at our people. I hope he doesn't, but who knows. That's our show for today.

00:44:30.800 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:44:34.880 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - August 28, 2020

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