Rebel News Podcast - July 27, 2019


What will the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo do with all the trans-gender cheaters？


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The Olympics are less than a year away, and the question is: What will they do with all the trans athletes who say they re women? And what will the government do with them? Ezra LeVant answers that question and much more on today's show.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. I got a strange show for you today, and I know we're doing the podcast here,
00:00:05.880 so you're going to have to take my word for the descriptions of people, but I show
00:00:09.900 about 20 pictures of people because I talk about women, men, and men who say they're women. I'm
00:00:16.400 talking about weightlifting, and a lot of athletes, including very strong Samoan weightlifting women,
00:00:25.480 women who compete for weightlifting. A lot of the strong competitors from Samoa, you know,
00:00:32.360 Samoans are very strong, look at the rock, but there's a guy who's taking all those women's 1.00
00:00:37.820 championships now. He's a guy named Gavin Hubbard. He calls himself Laurel now, and he says, no,
00:00:42.560 I'm a gal. No, I'm a gal, and you got to let me compete against the gals, and so he's winning,
00:00:47.520 and he have all these sad girls who've worked their whole life in bodybuilding, and they're 0.99
00:00:51.360 just getting pushed aside from this guy, and I ask the question, so how are the Olympics
00:00:56.580 going to go? The Olympics are a year away. Anyways, I hope the podcast works for you because
00:01:01.880 you'll have to take my description of these things. The reason I emphasize the visual is
00:01:05.320 because you can get access to the video side of this, the video form of this monologue by
00:01:10.460 becoming a Rebel Premium subscriber, and you just go to therebel.media slash shows. It's
00:01:16.360 eight bucks a month, and you get the video of my show, plus Sheila Gunn-Reed's show and
00:01:21.000 David Menzies' show, and the money helps us float the boat here. So without further ado,
00:01:25.960 here is my commentary on how trans athletes are going to destroy half the Olympics. 1.00
00:01:32.460 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:01:35.640 Tonight, the Olympics are less than a year away. What will they do with all the transgender 1.00
00:01:40.520 cheaters? It's July 26th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:44.540 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:50.380 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:54.460 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:59.320 right to do so.
00:02:05.760 The 2020 Summer Olympics will be in Tokyo next year. I think it's going to be pretty exciting.
00:02:12.060 I mean, I get it. Most people don't care about most of the sports and most of the athletes
00:02:17.380 year-round, but it's hard not to get into the morale of it, the spirit of it, when you finally
00:02:22.960 see it. There's something, I think, deep within the human spirit that loves these competitions,
00:02:27.100 the thrill of them, the tribalism, but also the sportsmanship and the camaraderie. The Greeks knew
00:02:32.380 what they were doing with their Olympic Games, and the Romans knew the value of their coliseums,
00:02:36.460 isn't they? And of course, it's big business. This is a Forbes magazine roundup of some of the
00:02:42.160 Olympics financial stats. The last Olympics in Korea apparently had a $13 billion budget.
00:02:50.360 I'm not even sure how it's possible, but the Sochi Olympics in Russia apparently cost, what,
00:02:57.040 $50 billion plus? I don't know how, which is about what the Beijing Olympics cost, too,
00:03:03.040 whether they say $44 billion. A lot of that is surely corruption in Russia and China. A lot of
00:03:08.720 that's propaganda, getting those two authoritarian regimes looking presentable to the rest of the
00:03:13.880 world. But my point is how much money is riding on the success of the Olympics, which is measured
00:03:19.200 partly by how smoothly these events go, but also, of course, by how many people watch them, right?
00:03:24.940 One more set of stats from that same Forbes article. They note that NBC, the American TV network,
00:03:31.680 paid $4.4 billion for the broadcast rights through till next year, and then another $7.65
00:03:37.800 billion for the dozen years after that. I find that incredible. And just the domestic sponsorships in
00:03:45.860 Japan next year, so that's just in Japan, are $3 billion. I guess they think the Japanese are going to 1.00
00:03:53.560 just love having the Olympics. I'm sure they will, actually. Okay, and now I've made my point. These
00:03:57.920 things are huge, the hugest. That's my point. So what do you think of this? It's a story in the BBC.
00:04:04.880 Sharon Davies fears for female athletes at Tokyo Olympic Games. Really? What's going to happen?
00:04:09.840 What's going to happen to them? Well, it's a BBC story from the UK. Sharon Davies, by the way,
00:04:14.720 is a championship swimmer for the UK. She has won medals in the past. She went to the Olympics for them.
00:04:19.820 She's continued as a sports commentator. And listen to what she's saying about the Olympics
00:04:24.760 for women. She's afraid for them. Let me read.
00:04:29.960 It will take female athletes being thrown under the bus at Tokyo 2020 before changes are made to 1.00
00:04:36.260 transgender rules, says ex-swimmer Sharon Davies. International Olympic Committee guidelines state
00:04:42.240 that transgender women must suppress testosterone levels for at least 12 months before competition. 0.96
00:04:46.600 But in March, Davies and others wrote to the IOC calling for more research.
00:04:52.800 In Tokyo, Laurel Hubbard of New Zealand could become the first transgender female to win an Olympic medal.
00:04:58.580 The 41-year-old weightlifter, you can see the top of his head down there below,
00:05:03.660 won two golds at the Pacific Games earlier in July.
00:05:06.720 Now, let me stop just for a moment. That's Laurel Hubbard. And note that the BBC is calling Laurel Hubbard
00:05:14.780 a transgender female. I appreciate that adjective, transgender female, because the CBC and pretty much
00:05:21.480 the rest of the media in Canada and the U.S. wouldn't have the adjective transgender female.
00:05:25.860 They would just say female. They would call her she. They would go along with that. 1.00
00:05:29.940 But I'm sorry, that's just not the case. This is a pure emperor has no clothes moment.
00:05:36.000 That would be like calling Rachel Dolezal. Remember her? The white girl who claimed to be black 1.00
00:05:41.340 and did her hair maybe in a black style. And actually, she became a spokesman for the NAACP,
00:05:48.320 the black civil rights group. It would be like calling her black. I mean, I know she wants to be black 0.99
00:05:53.740 and she loves black people, but she ain't black. Because black actually has an objective meaning.
00:06:00.080 You can't just say you're black. If you can just say you're black, then I can just say I'm the king
00:06:05.860 of Spain. Now, I can even believe that I am, but I don't think the media would start calling me
00:06:11.980 your royal highness. So I'm sorry, but Laurel Hubbard is not a woman. In fact, until just a few moments ago,
00:06:20.300 Laurel Hubbard was Gavin Hubbard, a moderately successful weightlifter as a guy. He actually
00:06:27.980 seems like a good bloke. There's a great picture of him as a man on that page. You go out for beer
00:06:35.280 and wings with him. He won some medals when he was 20. He won them as a young man, but he's not a young
00:06:42.560 man now. There he is as a woman. He's not Gavin anymore. He's Laurel Hubbard. And he's crushing it!
00:06:54.820 Let me read a little bit more from the BBC website. After Samoa's Commonwealth Games champion,
00:07:01.860 Figega Stowers, I hope I'm saying that right, missed out on a medal, Hubbard's participation 1.00
00:07:06.400 was criticized. Now, Stowers, this is a picture of Figega Stowers. Forgive me if I got the name
00:07:12.140 wrong. She is Samoan. That's an ethnicity. That's a group of islands. Now, she's born a woman. She's 0.98
00:07:17.640 genetically a woman. She's strong. You know, a lot of Samoans are strong. That's not an ethnic
00:07:23.080 stereotype. I'm not being prejudiced. It's just an observation. The same way so many Kenyans 1.00
00:07:28.440 win marathons. There is such a thing as human biodiversity.
00:07:32.600 I'm just saying Figega Stowers is absolutely a strong woman, but she's 100% woman. And I'm not 1.00
00:07:39.600 surprised at all that a Samoan would be so strong. You know, The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, he's half
00:07:46.880 Samoan. Look at the guy. You can see there's sort of a Samoan body type. Of course, he's strong. So
00:07:52.680 this Hubbard, the guy who's now a gal, he went to this weightlifting championship in Samoa,
00:07:59.280 but not to compete as a guy. He competed as a girl. So now they're strong girls. You saw them
00:08:04.160 as Samoan girls, but he crushed them because, I mean, I don't care how strong you are as a girl. 0.93
00:08:09.980 You're not going to be stronger than a man who says he's a girl, even if he's in his 40s and washed 0.95
00:08:14.840 up. Here's the Samoa Observer newspaper. That's another Samoan girl named Iuniara Sipaya, a real
00:08:22.220 Samoan girl. Forgive me if my pronunciation is wrong. She looks like a great weightlifter. She looks 0.98
00:08:27.720 really strong. But, I mean, look at that. That's a strong woman, and that's 100% woman. 1.00
00:08:34.420 But I'm sorry, that's not strong enough to beat a man. It's just not.
00:08:38.280 So, yeah, Gavin Hubbard beat Sipaya. So brave of him. So sportsmanlike. Here's the Washington
00:08:44.960 Post. They did a little roundup on the subject, quoting another female athlete who was there,
00:08:48.980 and let me quote from the Washington Post, which is quoting from a local New Zealand paper.
00:08:52.920 If I was in that category, I wouldn't feel like I was in an equal situation, two-time
00:08:58.940 Olympian Deborah Akason, who competes at the 75-kilogram level, told New Zealand News
00:09:05.220 Site Stuff. I just feel that if it's not even, why are we doing the sport? Yeah, good
00:09:11.240 point. Another female athlete dropped weight classes to avoid Hubbard. You know what I mean
00:09:15.840 by weight classes, right? Tracy Lambrex, who competed for New Zealand at the Rio Olympics last
00:09:21.280 summer, dropped weight classes to avoid facing Hubbard, who would have taken Lambrex's Olympic
00:09:26.720 spot had she been ready to compete in the Olympic qualifying events last year.
00:09:33.160 I'm more than happy that she has become a female. I have no problem with that, as everybody needs
00:09:39.220 to do what they need to do to be happy with life, Lambrex told New Zealand's Radio Live earlier
00:09:44.900 this month. Personally, I think they should be able to compete, but they shouldn't be able
00:09:48.240 to take spots from other female athletes. 1.00
00:09:51.280 Oh, you're going to jail for that one. Now, this is Tracy. She looks like a strong 0.99
00:09:55.940 girl. Tracy Lambrex, and she's a girl. She is a woman. She's obviously worked hard at
00:10:00.900 her sport, but who cares? A 40-year-old man who calls himself a woman is going to crush 0.93
00:10:06.060 her every time. Is that fun? Is that sports? Not for the girls, but we're talking about
00:10:13.500 the Olympics. Is that going to be fun for the Olympics?
00:10:17.060 There's a reason why men and women compete in separate competitions. There's a reason 1.00
00:10:24.880 why sports have different gradations. In boxing, you match heavyweights against heavyweights,
00:10:30.940 lightweights against lightweights. That's why you have a weigh-in, because if you're 50 pounds
00:10:34.800 heavier than a guy, sir, that ain't a fair fight. Because yes, we know that a heavyweight could
00:10:39.300 probably crush a lightweight 99 times out of 100. That's not really sport. That's really
00:10:45.360 not fun to watch, and it's not sportsmanlike. So we have different sex categories. We have
00:10:50.580 different weight categories. Some sports have different age categories, acknowledging that
00:10:55.440 middle-aged or even seniors have different natural characteristics. And they can still
00:11:00.560 compete against each other, and that can still be really fun and sporty.
00:11:03.900 So if Gavin, I mean, Laurel Hubbard is now allowed just to go in and beat all the girls, 1.00
00:11:10.920 will he really go to the Olympics and bravely beat all the girls there? Well, he would beat 0.99
00:11:16.280 the girls there. I mean, look, a real weightlifter, his own size and weight and sex, would crush him,
00:11:24.780 because he's just a washed-up guy. But he's still going to crush the girls. I love showing this
00:11:30.700 clip from Seinfeld of Kramer, the goofy guy, who was so proud that he beat everybody at the
00:11:36.880 Taekwondo gym. Now, they just happen to be kids. Remember this?
00:11:40.460 That's really funny.
00:12:10.320 I've seen that 10 times. I always laugh. But that is a television comedy. I don't think any
00:12:16.280 real sports enthusiasts would watch that, let alone pay to watch that. But hey, if Gavin
00:12:21.640 Hubbard can compete, why not, oh, a rapper named Zuby? His real name is Inzube Udezu, and
00:12:30.240 he goes by Zuby. And he's an entertainer. Here's a clip of who he is.
00:12:34.200 I like his smile. You know, he's a really avid fitness buff. You can't really tell there. He's
00:12:48.160 a very accomplished weightlifter. I don't think he competes or anything, but it's clear he just
00:13:01.700 loves, loves, loves doing it. And he is strong. He's strong. He's fit. And he's stronger than just
00:13:09.640 about any woman in the world. And he knows it. And that doesn't make him proud because
00:13:14.540 he knows he's a man. He would perhaps like to be stronger than any man in the world. That's sport.
00:13:21.800 But a man being stronger than any woman in the world for a man is about as much as an achievement 0.98
00:13:26.600 as Kramer beating those children in Taekwondo. But here's Zuby saying he is now officially the
00:13:33.040 strongest woman in the United Kingdom because he is identifying as a woman. And what, he's some
00:13:38.420 sort of transphobic bigot or something? I keep hearing, oh, there you go. Watch that video.
00:13:47.740 Now hold that on the screen for a second. Let me read it. He tweeted,
00:13:51.180 I keep hearing about how biological men don't have any physical strength advantage over women in 2019.
00:13:55.920 So watch me destroy the British women's deadlift record without trying. P.S. I identified as a 1.00
00:14:01.520 woman whilst lifting the weight. Don't be a bigot. And I don't know if you can see,
00:14:06.100 there's a lot of plates on that barbell there that, that, I mean, that was, I think that was
00:14:12.260 about 500 pounds. I don't care how strong you are. If you are a woman, you're not lifting 500 pounds. 1.00
00:14:17.780 And Zuby did it. So in one afternoon, he just beat, and he did another one and another one and
00:14:23.980 another one. And he just beat every weightlifting record for British women, for women. Now it was a gag,
00:14:30.060 of course, because of course he's not a woman. And he's not seriously saying he's a woman. He was
00:14:34.000 making a point. If he says he's a woman, what do you want to be transphobic and racist?
00:14:40.700 You better admit he's a woman. Let me read that, the rest of that BBC story that I started with.
00:14:45.740 Sharon Davis, Davies said that that's that real female former Olympian who's worried. Here's what
00:14:51.040 she said. An Olympic silver medalist in 1980, Davies, who said she has had no response from the
00:14:58.020 International Olympic Committee since writing to it, says the body is conducting a live experiment.
00:15:03.400 Yeah, ain't that the truth. The Briton told BBC Sport, I find it extraordinary that Hubbard winning
00:15:08.820 medals is where we have to go before the IOC open their eyes. And positive things will change,
00:15:15.380 but the problem is we will be throwing females under the bus before it does change. 1.00
00:15:21.140 I think she's right. And I mean, it's quirky and it's weird when you have one guy winning
00:15:25.580 at a bunch of sad Samoan women standing around saying, that could have been me, it should have 1.00
00:15:30.480 been me. It's funny when you have Zuby making Twitter jokes. He seems like a real car, doesn't
00:15:36.060 he? I like him. But what happens when, not if, but when? It's not one kook named Gavin Hubbard, 0.56
00:15:43.820 but it's, well, it's, it's a bunch of them. Three, four, five, 10, 20 guys compete in every
00:15:51.060 women's sports championship. So it's not just Hubbard standing in the gold medal stage and two
00:15:56.220 sad women in silver and bronze who should have been gold and silver. It's Hubbard and two other 0.76
00:16:00.440 guys who are likely just three other guys who are actually really, really strong like Zuby.
00:16:05.560 And Laurel Hubbard is now just washed up just like Gavin Hubbard is. My point is, is anyone going to pay
00:16:11.920 to watch those kinds of Olympics? Would you watch a women's Olympics event if there were 1.00
00:16:19.140 male competitors, the best of the best, and then the women's competitors, the best of the
00:16:27.780 worst, by which I mean the best of the guys who couldn't compete against the other guys
00:16:30.420 so they compete against girls. Would you watch an Olympics where you have the real men going 0.92
00:16:33.720 against real men? That's going to be great competition. And then you have the fake men
00:16:36.920 going after any women that left. There's, there's not going to be any real girls left
00:16:42.620 there. It's going to be the real men. And then the men saying they're women. You know, 0.64
00:16:46.860 a few weeks ago, the U S women's soccer team won their championship and they immediately
00:16:51.600 started complaining that they get paid less than male soccer players. And it's true. It's 1.00
00:16:56.680 absolutely true. And it's math because far, far fewer people watch women's soccer than watch
00:17:01.940 men's soccer. The reason why the Olympics are so staggeringly rich are in part because
00:17:07.280 the whole world watches them. NBC is not a patron of the arts. They don't care about
00:17:12.120 charity. They're not giving a gift with that money. They think they can make a profit off
00:17:16.000 the Olympics rights by selling ads. People don't watch women's soccer as much as they watch
00:17:22.440 men's soccer for a variety of reasons. But one of them, I'm sorry to say it, might be because
00:17:27.120 some people know that they're not watching the absolute best of the best of the best in the world
00:17:30.940 when it comes to soccer. I'm sorry to say that. But we know that when a team of teenaged boys
00:17:35.760 beat those U S women's champions, that sort of proves the point a bit. If women's soccer
00:17:41.900 has weak TV ratings and thus a weak commercial basis, what do you think it's going to be like
00:17:48.120 when it's just a bunch of second rate guys who say they're girls? Hey, do me a favor. The Olympics,
00:17:54.260 all of its sponsors, all of the government and quasi government agencies involved in the Olympics
00:18:00.180 and amateur sports, please stop pretending that you're feminists or even for equal treatment 0.98
00:18:07.000 of women. You're not. We are about to see a mass purge of every athletic woman in the world 1.00
00:18:17.880 because we found something more woke than women. And that's men who say they're women who then beat
00:18:26.340 women in a sport. You know, someone might even call that misogynistic. Stay with us for more. 1.00
00:18:34.780 where I live, there are rainbows.
00:18:57.780 There are rainbows
00:19:02.380 With life in the laughter of morning
00:19:07.280 And starry nights
00:19:11.120 Where I live
00:19:14.280 There are rainbows
00:19:18.180 Flowers full of colors
00:19:22.900 And birds filled with sun
00:19:27.260 I can smile when it's raining
00:19:31.260 Touch the warmth of the sun
00:19:34.960 I hear children laughing
00:19:39.060 In this place that I love
00:19:45.660 Where I live
00:19:50.240 There are rainbows
00:19:53.420 With life in the laughter of morning
00:19:58.520 And starry nights
00:20:05.220 Look at that. I would say those two people are not only a little bit beautiful, they're a little bit cool.
00:20:17.620 And what's so unusual is that that woman isn't just sort of some cool Hawaiian lady.
00:20:22.920 Her name is Tulsi Gabbard and she is running to be the president of the United States. She's seeking the Democratic Party nomination. And normally I'm somewhat cautious of people wearing flower leis and playing ukuleles. But she's very interesting. I mean, she's a military veteran. The Hawaii Army National Guard. She has very interesting views about freedom and non-interventionism.
00:20:48.920 I've got to tell you. If I had to pick a Democrat. And I don't. But if I did, I would pick Tulsi Gabbard from the amazing state of Hawaii. And the funny thing is, in some of the early Democratic Party debates, Tulsi was a breakout. She broke away from the pack. 0.99
00:21:08.920 Everybody already knows and has a view on people like, oh, I don't know, Vice President Joe Biden. But Tulsi was new and fresh. And she instantly became the most searched for person on the Internet, the most Googled.
00:21:26.420 But at precisely that moment, Google disabled her search accounts. She's suing them now. And here to join us to talk about this is our friend Alan Bokhari, the senior tech correspondent for Breitbart.com. Great to see you, Alan.
00:21:43.520 Hi, Ezra. Good to see you.
00:21:44.500 I like Tulsi. I mean, of course, I'm a Trump guy. But if I had to choose a Democrat, there's a lot of things I like about her. And even the fact that she's from Hawaii. She's sort of a dissenter, an anomaly outside the establishment. I think there's a lot to like. She seemed to connect with viewers, I guess, if everyone was Googling her, right?
00:22:06.520 That's right. She was the most Googled candidate of the first Democratic debate. And it was at precisely that moment, according to this new lawsuit by Gabbard against Google, that Google decided to suspend her ads account.
00:22:19.940 So she was heavily restricted in her ability to reach all of those people who were Googling her at the very moment that they were most interested in doing so.
00:22:29.860 I think Tulsi's right to be suspicious about this because she's not an ordinary Democratic candidate. 0.85
00:22:34.640 She tries to avoid identity politics. She's very anti-war, very anti-establishment. The establishment don't like her. In fact, the media has even tried to connect her to the Russian interference narrative.
00:22:51.220 They're saying she's Russia's favorite candidate, much the same way they did to Trump.
00:22:54.580 So they're behaving in the same way to Tulsi that they did to Bernie Sanders in 2016.
00:22:59.860 They see her as this dangerous anti-establishment outsider.
00:23:04.640 And Google has very close ties to the Democratic establishment.
00:23:08.160 So I think Tulsi's absolutely right to be suspicious here.
00:23:11.540 Yeah. I mean, listen, I don't agree with everything.
00:23:14.280 I don't agree with anything any politician has to say.
00:23:17.020 But I find her remarkably free.
00:23:20.100 Like, she doesn't play a lot of the cards that the Democrats do. 0.99
00:23:23.360 And I agree with you.
00:23:25.760 Just because she doesn't want to indulge in elective wars of opportunity, to allege that she is somehow in collusion with Russia or Syria because she doesn't want to casually get involved in another Afghanistan or another Iraq, frankly, that's Trump's position, too.
00:23:46.480 I wouldn't call it isolationism.
00:23:48.460 I'd say it's about not being Globocop and not sacrificing another 2,500 Americans as were sacrificed in Afghanistan.
00:23:57.280 And, by the way, over 150 Canadians, too.
00:23:59.560 I don't know.
00:24:00.080 I like her a lot.
00:24:02.240 Tell me what it means to have her Google ad account suspended.
00:24:05.740 So people who were Googling her could still find her on the search engine, right?
00:24:10.600 It was just her ability to advertise to them was shut down.
00:24:14.400 Is that what went on?
00:24:16.660 Well, her ability to advertise to anyone on Google was shut down.
00:24:20.280 So people who were searching for her, people who weren't searching for her.
00:24:24.400 And, you know, the way Google Ads works is that if an ad appears related to what you're searching for, so, you know, if the Tulsi Gabbard campaign ad appeared as people were searching for Tulsi Gabbard,
00:24:37.460 that would be that normally that's judged as a very accurate ad.
00:24:40.840 That's the kind of ads that Google tries to encourage to appear next to search results. 0.66
00:24:46.940 But in this case, Gabbard was totally stopped from doing that.
00:24:50.560 And she's now fighting a law. 0.99
00:24:52.500 She's now introduced a lawsuit against Google asking for 50 million damages because of that lost opportunity there. 0.96
00:24:59.220 And it also accuses Google of many other things that conservatives have been talking about, that you and I have been talking about for a while,
00:25:06.480 which is that Google has this vast influence over democratic elections, while at the same time having no accountability and no transparency.
00:25:15.000 You know, I'm so glad to read this in your report.
00:25:17.740 And now I'm not surprised by that at all.
00:25:19.580 I would think that this would be front page news everywhere.
00:25:22.260 But alas, as with the attempt to marginalize Tulsi in other ways, I think this has been ignored.
00:25:28.540 Let me read the three tweets that Tulsi Gabbard tweeted about this.
00:25:32.500 And I learned this again from your report.
00:25:34.400 I'll just read them.
00:25:35.220 Her first one says,
00:25:37.400 In the hours following the first debate, while millions of Americans search for info about Tulsi,
00:25:41.520 Google suspended her search ad account without explanation.
00:25:44.580 It is vital to our democracy that big tech companies can't affect the outcome of elections.
00:25:49.260 So that's very interesting that there was no explanation.
00:25:52.740 I find that completely believable.
00:25:55.040 We have been hit the same way.
00:25:56.700 No explanation, no warning, no appeal, no transparency.
00:25:59.520 And I like the fact that she's calling them out for meddling.
00:26:02.400 Let me just read two more of her tweets, and then I'd love your comment on this, Alan.
00:26:05.580 Her second tweet was,
00:26:07.460 Google controls 88% of Internet search in the U.S., giving it control over our access to information.
00:26:14.440 Google's arbitrary suspension of the account of a presidential candidate should be of concern to all,
00:26:19.260 all Americans.
00:26:20.500 Very hard to disagree with that.
00:26:21.940 And let me read the third tweet, and then I'll invite you back, Alan.
00:26:25.420 Google's discrimination against our campaign reveals the danger of their dominance
00:26:29.140 and how the dominance of big tech over public discourse threatens core American values.
00:26:33.580 They threaten our democracy, and Tulsi will fight back on behalf of all Americans.
00:26:40.700 Normally, Alan, the Democrat narrative on big tech is,
00:26:45.580 we need you to help us combat fake news.
00:26:49.840 It's Republicans who usually say, lay off the partisanship.
00:26:53.940 I think Tulsi is reaching out to moderates and independents by saying,
00:26:59.320 I care about free speech, too.
00:27:01.260 It's not just a Republican value.
00:27:02.720 Absolutely, and this isn't the first time that a Democrat has called out Silicon Valley over censorship.
00:27:09.980 Elizabeth Warren also called out Facebook after they suspended one of her ads.
00:27:14.620 The difference is that Elizabeth Warren is pretty much, 0.73
00:27:18.680 other than that one incident, Elizabeth Warren holds the party line on Silicon Valley censorship. 1.00
00:27:23.900 Well, in that case, she condemned Facebook for censorship.
00:27:29.160 She later condemned Facebook for allowing a parody doctored video of Nancy Pelosi to spread.
00:27:34.900 So, you know, she's happy to demand more censorship from the tech giants when she wants to. 0.99
00:27:38.420 That's Elizabeth Warren.
00:27:39.640 But Tulsi has always been consistent in her case that Silicon Valley is censoring,
00:27:48.620 is a threat to free speech, is a threat to elections.
00:27:50.340 She's actually said this before Google interfered with her ads.
00:27:55.360 So she's quite consistent on this topic.
00:27:57.800 And actually, she's more in line with Democratic voters, 0.80
00:28:00.080 because there was a Pew survey, I believe, last year or 2017,
00:28:04.140 that shows a majority of both Republicans and Democrats
00:28:07.140 believe that social media companies routinely censor political opinions.
00:28:13.140 So the Democratic voters are with Tulsi on this.
00:28:16.140 Isn't that interesting?
00:28:16.880 They actually don't agree with people like Jerry Nadler and Maisie Hirono,
00:28:21.620 Democratic politicians, who say that censorship is just a made-up conspiracy theory by the political right.
00:28:28.620 I have not, I've just learned about this from your piece,
00:28:30.980 so I thank you for doing that reporting.
00:28:33.020 Have you had a chance to examine the actual lawsuit itself?
00:28:37.100 Do you, if so, do you have any information for us about it?
00:28:42.120 And also, does it have any hope?
00:28:43.780 Because in the past, lawsuits against these tech giants have generally been dismissed
00:28:47.880 because their terms of service are so one-sided.
00:28:51.700 It's basically take it or leave it.
00:28:52.880 If you don't like Google, go elsewhere.
00:28:54.420 Yeah, so the problem this and other lawsuits will run into is that tech companies are protected
00:29:00.160 by something called, I believe we discussed this before, Section 230 of the Communications Vicency Act,
00:29:05.740 which gives tech companies broad powers to censor for almost any reason.
00:29:10.860 And, you know, worryingly, USMCA, the new trade bill that's being pushed by the Trump administration,
00:29:16.920 actually entrenches that power of tech companies,
00:29:20.820 a sort of legal perk that no other company other than the Silicon Valley giants enjoy.
00:29:26.060 So that's the problem this lawsuit, and indeed any lawsuit against the tech giants, will run into.
00:29:30.640 But the fact that it's coming from a Democratic presidential candidate is going to be a huge embarrassment for Google,
00:29:37.160 and it's going to attract press coverage in a way that other lawsuits haven't.
00:29:40.860 So the more lawsuits that these companies face over bias, you know, the higher profile this issue will become,
00:29:47.120 and the more pressure they'll face.
00:29:49.400 So will it be successful?
00:29:51.480 I mean, I'm not a lawyer.
00:29:52.140 I can't really give you an answer to that question.
00:29:53.780 Section 230 has in the past stopped lawsuits like this.
00:29:57.200 But the more they face, the more pressure they will be under, and that's a problem for Silicon Valley.
00:30:02.580 Last question for you, and thanks for your time, Alam.
00:30:04.780 As always, we really enjoy it.
00:30:06.020 A couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump had a social media summit at the White House,
00:30:12.140 where he invited a number of people who were active on Twitter and YouTube.
00:30:15.900 He expressly and conspicuously did not invite the mainstream media.
00:30:21.680 And it was chaired by Harmeet Dhillon, who is a free speech lawyer.
00:30:26.380 That's James Damore's lawyer suing Google for firing him for his conservative politics.
00:30:31.760 She's very effective.
00:30:32.480 By the way, I should disclose she is a lawyer, one of our lawyers, on censorship issues.
00:30:37.680 I saw other lawyers there, Ron Coleman, another free speech lawyer.
00:30:41.060 Again, one of our free speech lawyers.
00:30:43.000 So I'm excited that Trump is meeting with people who truly care.
00:30:47.520 But it's one thing to meet.
00:30:48.760 It's another thing to tweet.
00:30:50.700 Both of those are different from taking action.
00:30:52.820 We're coming up on 2020.
00:30:55.900 These guys are, if they're willing to stop Tulsi Gabbard, you know they'll be obsessed with stopping Donald Trump.
00:31:02.300 Is the president going to actually do anything here, Alam?
00:31:05.860 Well, the question is, what can he do?
00:31:07.940 So he has, the Justice Department has launched an antitrust investigation into Google.
00:31:13.000 Although whether antitrust can really be used to tackle the censorship question, that's another issue.
00:31:17.800 Maybe it could be some part of the settlement.
00:31:19.820 Who knows?
00:31:20.200 Because really you need Congress to take action and change Section 230.
00:31:25.440 But Senator Josh Hawley has introduced a bill to that effect.
00:31:29.580 Just today, actually, Representative Paul Gosar introduced a Stop Online Censorship Act to do the same thing, amend that law, make it easier for censored users on these platforms to sue the companies.
00:31:41.240 But, you know, they've got a Democratic majority to get passed in the House, maybe minus Tulsi Gabbard.
00:31:48.520 So it's going to be very difficult.
00:31:51.880 Congress moves slowly on these issues.
00:31:53.600 As for Trump, well, one thing, he kind of brought this up a few times, is just deny federal contracts to big tech companies, start using alternative platforms.
00:32:02.260 But whether that will be enough, really, to take these guys down or stop them from censoring or interfering in the election is another issue.
00:32:12.060 I'm increasingly pessimistic about whether there will be any serious curbing of their ability to interfere in the Democratic process before 2020.
00:32:21.100 So I think that if Donald Trump wins in 2020, it'll be despite Silicon Valley censorship, not because they managed to stop it.
00:32:28.860 Yeah.
00:32:29.240 Well, Alan, always educational, always depressing to get the news from you.
00:32:34.580 But thank God you're covering it because so few people are.
00:32:38.300 I appreciate your work.
00:32:39.660 And I would encourage all of our rebel viewers to check you out at Breitbart.com.
00:32:43.600 You are the master of this beat.
00:32:45.420 And we're grateful for your input.
00:32:46.880 Thanks, my friend.
00:32:48.420 Thanks, Ezra.
00:32:49.020 All right.
00:32:49.420 There you have it.
00:32:49.960 Alan Bucari is the senior tech correspondent for Breitbart.com.
00:32:54.020 Stay with us more ahead.
00:33:05.700 Hey, welcome back.
00:33:06.560 We received a lot of letters about the show Wednesday on our campaign to save Sheila.
00:33:10.600 Carol writes, what kind of society are we in?
00:33:13.580 It's like I'm having a nightmare wide awake on a regular basis.
00:33:16.560 Yesterday, we imprisoned people like Tommy Robinson and Assange for exposing the truth.
00:33:20.440 Today, we go after a woman for writing a book. 1.00
00:33:23.100 Yeah, it's I don't even get it because I mean, you know, to write a book, you put the words down.
00:33:28.620 And that's just the creative act, the journalistic act.
00:33:31.340 And then to publish a book, what does that mean?
00:33:33.560 Well, it's the person who takes the words, lays them out, puts them in a book, sells it, does all the bit like it's the business side.
00:33:41.940 Right. So the rebel is the publisher of Sheila's book.
00:33:45.000 And we also promoted her book online and with those fun election style long times.
00:33:51.560 So if there was some problem with the book itself, the price of the book, the marketing of the book, the promotion of the book, that's me.
00:34:01.200 Now, obviously, there's nothing wrong with the book.
00:34:03.040 We live in a free country.
00:34:03.980 The election law clearly exempts books from anything.
00:34:08.360 So obviously, we're fine.
00:34:09.740 But if there were a problem and there is not, well, talk to me, the publisher.
00:34:15.680 My company name is on the book, published by Rebel News Network.
00:34:21.560 The reason they're going after Sheila is because they hate her.
00:34:25.260 But that's not a good reason to go after someone.
00:34:27.660 She's not the publisher.
00:34:28.660 Do you see what I mean?
00:34:29.660 It's like it's outrageous that they would go after her or me.
00:34:32.200 But if you've got a problem with the book, come for me.
00:34:35.040 Why are they picking on Sheila, the journalist?
00:34:37.480 And do they really think that we would not help our dear friend Sheila?
00:34:41.220 Unbelievable.
00:34:42.160 It'll be interesting to see what journalists come to our aid.
00:34:44.300 I don't mean financially.
00:34:45.220 I mean morally.
00:34:46.020 I see a few of them in Toronto.
00:34:48.000 Laurie Goldstein is one.
00:34:50.180 He's with the Toronto Sun.
00:34:51.600 Joe Warmington is one.
00:34:52.960 He's with the Toronto Sun also.
00:34:56.220 Brian Passifium, he's with Post Media.
00:34:58.160 He's being friendly.
00:34:58.780 And I'm almost done my list of journalists in Canada who are standing with Sheila.
00:35:05.340 Barb writes, donation on its way to help fight back against NDP depravity.
00:35:11.440 Well, thank you, Barb.
00:35:12.620 And yes, it was NDP depravity.
00:35:14.940 But I should point out that Rachel Notley is no longer Premier, is she?
00:35:19.720 James writes, his job is to get Sheila to incriminate herself.
00:35:23.520 He wants Sheila to do his work for him.
00:35:25.240 Best advice when he calls, say nothing except call my lawyer.
00:35:27.760 Well, yeah, and that's, in fact, a few days ago, our lawyer sent a letter to Ken Brander
00:35:33.520 and said, stop talking to Sheila. 1.00
00:35:35.240 Deal with us only.
00:35:36.820 We'll see if he has the courage for that or if he prefers to pick on girls.
00:35:41.600 Pat writes, why am I spending my money to pay for lawyers to fight my government?
00:35:46.220 And as a taxpayer, why am I borrowing money to pay for lawyers to stifle Sheila?
00:35:50.740 Pat, that's a very keen observation.
00:35:53.240 They're using the unlimited resources of the state to get Sheila. 0.56
00:35:58.100 Now, I've got to think that they know going after an author is illegal and unconstitutional.
00:36:03.880 I've got to believe they know that.
00:36:06.080 I mean, how can you not know that?
00:36:07.920 I think they just don't care because they're sort of like kamikaze pilots.
00:36:11.580 They don't care.
00:36:12.780 They know they're going to be fired any day now by Jason Kenney, I hope.
00:36:15.480 And so they're just saying, what the heck, you know, let's just make as much mess as we can
00:36:20.440 and put us through the punishment of the process.
00:36:22.680 That's my theory.
00:36:24.520 Rob writes, why hasn't Premier Kenney dismissed this election commissioner
00:36:28.480 and shut down this foul NDP department? 0.99
00:36:31.100 I agree.
00:36:31.780 I think he should absolutely shut down the entire office.
00:36:34.020 Trouble is, they're investigating him, or if not him, his cabinet and MLAs and whatnot.
00:36:40.420 So it might look like it as if Donald Trump had shut down the Mueller report.
00:36:44.780 That would have always just trying to save himself.
00:36:47.100 So it's a bit of a pickle.
00:36:48.520 Well, I think we're going to have to beat him in court, and I think we will.
00:36:51.420 All right.
00:36:51.900 Well, that's the show for this week, and that brings the week to an end.
00:36:54.800 I thank you for your support on so many things that we do.
00:36:57.780 Have a great weekend.
00:36:58.900 And until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:37:02.840 good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:37:10.420 We'll be right back.