Rebel News Podcast - Who would you rather have censoring your news — Justin Trudeau or Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I've got some bad news for those of us who like independent journalism,

00:00:04.400 but good news for those journalists on the left who can't seem to find anyone to pay for their

00:00:09.660 crap. And the news is that Mark Zuckerberg has gone into the business of giving handouts

00:00:15.020 to media companies. Trudeau led the way, but Zuckerberg's probably got more money.

00:00:20.480 Now they're both giving money to left-wing news organizations in Canada. I'll give you the details

00:00:25.860 and how gross it is. Before I do, I'd like to invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.

00:00:31.660 That's what we call the video version of this podcast. It's eight bucks a month and we need it

00:00:35.680 because we're not taking that government dough and we're not taking money from Facebook either.

00:00:40.000 All right, here's today's show.

00:00:55.860 Tonight, who would you rather have choosing your news for you? Justin Trudeau or Facebook's

00:01:01.780 Mark Zuckerberg? It's May 25th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:07.500 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:11.160 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:15.240 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:20.120 right to do so.

00:01:25.860 It's so embarrassing, I think, when foreign media break Canadian news. At least when it's 0.99

00:01:32.160 news that embarrasses the Canadian political media industrial complex. I mean, it's going

00:01:38.160 to happen. The largest news gathering organizations in the world are outside Canada and places like

00:01:43.040 America and the UK. Sometimes they're going to break news in Canada just because they're good

00:01:48.660 and they're hunting for news. But what I'm really talking about is opposition research style

00:01:54.220 local political news, accountability news, really news that only Canadians should care about.

00:02:01.140 But Canadian journalists should naturally be taking the lead on things that, you know,

00:02:05.840 it really would be strange if foreigners broke the news on first. I mean, wouldn't it be weird 1.00

00:02:10.060 if a regular newspaper in Edmonton broke a big scoop about Joe Biden?

00:02:15.440 I think it'd be weird. Or if a radio station in Winnipeg broke a big news scoop about the UK's

00:02:22.600 Prime Minister Boris Johnson? Wouldn't that be weird? I think that'd be weird.

00:02:26.400 Well, that never happens. But it often happens the other way. Like when the Canadian media knew

00:02:32.740 that Justin Trudeau had dressed up in blackface dozens of times, too often for him to even remember.

00:02:38.480 He did it in three decades, his teens, his 20s, and his 30s. All the media had photos or videos of it.

00:02:44.500 But it fell to Time magazine in the States to break the news, not because they were smarter

00:02:49.320 or were digging harder, but because a Canadian citizen was so frustrated by the fact that

00:02:54.620 there was this cone of silence over the mainstream media, he literally had to leave Canada to find

00:03:00.720 an honest reporter. And within hours of Time magazine breaking that story, Canadian media all rushed

00:03:08.120 to catch up by publishing the photos and videos that they had all been sitting on all along.

00:03:14.620 Embarrassing. And you know, it was embarrassing because of their vengeance. Because the CBC and

00:03:20.720 the Globe and Mail and the rest of the media party then turned their rage against that Vancouver man,

00:03:25.880 just some guy, who gave the tip to Time magazine. They did more research on that guy than they bothered

00:03:33.020 to do on Trudeau himself, the Canadian media. Just happened again this weekend. I don't know if you

00:03:37.980 saw the BBC, British Broadcasting Corporation, the state broadcaster in the UK, not exactly freedom

00:03:44.740 loving folks. They did a news report that shows Toronto is the most locked down city in the world.

00:03:52.560 It's just the most, more than any other city. We're the worst. I can think of six and a half

00:03:57.660 million people in the greater Toronto area who might like to have learned about that fact, you know,

00:04:02.000 in a Canadian media outlet and who still have not heard about it in a Canadian media outlet. Because

00:04:06.840 really, unless you're an expat or a strange masochist, why would you be watching the BBC?

00:04:11.760 Why wouldn't Canadian journalists tell that story, break that story? They're living that story.

00:04:16.340 It's obviously newsworthy. The BBC certainly thought so and they're thousands of miles away. Normally

00:04:20.620 Canadian media types get so excited when someone in a foreign country recognizes Canada. I mean,

00:04:26.480 how often does some second rate Oscar winner have an aunt who had a cousin whose mechanic was from

00:04:32.700 Halifax. We're so excited about that. But where's the news here? I didn't see any Canadians falling

00:04:37.900 up on this BBC story. Because the media party has merged with the Liberal Party. Was always that way

00:04:44.160 to an extent, but Trudeau made it a formal union with his media bailout. It really is incredible how

00:04:49.920 easily bought they all were. Even the odd guy who said, no, no, I'll go it alone without government

00:04:55.720 money. Like this guy, David Skok. He started some online tech news magazine called The Logic and he

00:05:02.380 swore he wouldn't take government cash. He took government cash. These guys are so cheaply bought,

00:05:08.680 I guess they're so desperate to have someone support their hobby, because obviously it's not commercially

00:05:13.140 viable on its own, that they're happy to take a patron of the arts. Like there's some Renaissance

00:05:19.000 sculptor or painter, except for these Renaissance artists, they might flatter their patrons with a

00:05:25.340 lovely portrait of their paymaster's wife or something. No harm done. But in the news business,

00:05:32.020 when your patron is the government, the subject of the news, the politicians, that's corruption.

00:05:38.880 No wonder we need foreign media to tell us about Canada. Everyone else is on the take.

00:05:43.380 You'd think the current $1.5 billion a year to the CBC plus $600 million to the

00:05:48.760 newspapers would be enough, but no, it is not. Look at this story in black locks.

00:05:55.020 Media double dip on grants. New tax changes will allow media to double dip on taxpayer subsidies,

00:06:00.540 the Department of Finance confirmed yesterday. Amendments inserted in a 336-page budget bill

00:06:06.220 will see some publishers draw subsidies equal to 100% of newsroom costs. It still is a bit sticky,

00:06:14.140 Senator David Richards, New Brunswick, earlier told the Senate National Finance Committee.

00:06:18.760 I've been a writer and I've written 30 books, so I know how this works. It's often very subjective

00:06:23.920 on how you qualify or don't qualify for certain types of grants. What? I mean, look at this. Look at

00:06:30.460 this. Double dipping was intended to meet policy objectives, said the Finance Department. It did

00:06:36.240 not explain. Publishers who stand to benefit from the tax change did not report the fact. Past payouts

00:06:42.040 under the aid to publish this program included. Get this. $1.5 million to Canadian Living Magazine,

00:06:48.200 $1.25 million to McLean's, $1.14 million to Reader's Digest, $873,000 to The Hockey News, $855,000 to

00:06:55.800 Ontario Farmer, $739,000 to Chatelaine, $650,000 to Good Times Magazine for Seniors, $500,000 to Toronto

00:07:02.880 Life. It goes on. I think there's a correlation between magazines that take free money from the

00:07:08.040 government, becoming the most boring magazines, and they become the most Trudeau magazines, the most

00:07:13.340 pro-Trudeau magazines, and they lose public support. I mean, do you really know anyone other than maybe

00:07:20.220 a dentist's office that gets McLean's Magazine anymore, and the dentist probably gets it for free?

00:07:26.340 Because they're not writing for you anymore. They're writing only for one man, and that man's name is

00:07:30.480 Justin Trudeau. By the way, I was talking to a lawyer for McLean's Magazine the other day who says they

00:07:35.580 only have 14 staff left at the whole company. How can you take $1.25 million in bailout money

00:07:41.520 when you don't even have a payroll that big? Someone's putting a lot of cash in their jeans.

00:07:47.860 Well, who has a bigger ego than Trudeau? And who has more money than Trudeau? And really,

00:07:54.840 who has more critics that he'd like to pay off than Trudeau? Well, how about one of the richest and

00:08:00.240 most irritating men in the world, Mark Zuckerberg, the lizard-like founder of Facebook? And he's

00:08:08.520 decided to get into the media payoff game, too. All left-wing outlets, of course. I mean, he's only

00:08:14.460 going to give money to the left. And I promise you this, you'll start to see a lot more pro-Facebook

00:08:18.640 coverage in those outlets, or at least no more criticism of Facebook. Here's a story about it

00:08:24.360 in the Globe and Mail. New initiative will see Facebook pay 14 Canadian media outlets for content.

00:08:32.880 Facebook is launching a trial news initiative in Canada in which the social media giant will pay

00:08:37.120 publishers to link to selected articles on their websites. The company announced the partnership

00:08:42.220 Tuesday with 14 Canadian media outlets. Under the news innovation test, Facebook will pay publishers

00:08:48.180 an undisclosed amount to include selected links on their pages that bring users to news sites.

00:08:54.360 The links will be provided on certain Facebook pages, such as the company's information hubs,

00:08:59.520 but the partnership does not include links that are shared by the media outlets themselves.

00:09:05.080 Okay, hang on a second. I don't think that's how it works. See, Facebook is providing the traffic

00:09:10.060 to those websites. And with traffic, of course, the eyeballs comes ad revenues. Facebook is literally

00:09:16.280 linking and diverting people to these news websites, doing them a huge favor. Those news websites

00:09:24.340 typically pay Facebook for ads to get that traffic. I bet most of them do. Because a Facebook link

00:09:32.060 can turn into a river of cash for whoever the link is pointing at. That's how it works. How is it

00:09:39.520 benefiting Facebook to send a customer from Facebook to a news site on a news story on a news site? Why would

00:09:46.820 they pay for that? That's not real commerce. That's a payoff. That's a bribe. That's a kind of money

00:09:54.860 laundering. Let me read. Facebook will compensate media companies and drive traffic to their sites,

00:10:01.160 according to Kevin Chan, the company's head of public policy for Canada. It's the first time the news

00:10:06.080 innovation test is being introduced anywhere, though Facebook is testing another feature known as Facebook

00:10:10.860 News in other countries. Who's Kevin Chan? They never say in the article, oh, it's not important. I

00:10:18.560 mean, he's the policy boss for Facebook Canada. He's the one spraying money and traffic at left-wing

00:10:24.680 news sites. Pay no attention to the fact that he was a senior staffer in the Liberal Party before. I

00:10:30.560 wonder why that wasn't mentioned in this article. Sure, it's just a coincidence. Small world, right?

00:10:35.580 And all the sites that he's hosing money at are liberal. What are the odds? I'll keep reading.

00:10:43.660 The participating media outlets are a mix of large established publishers and

00:10:46.780 smaller independent ones in both English and French. The 14 outlets are BlogTO, Canada's National

00:10:52.300 Observer, The Coast, La Cooperative Nationale d'Information Independent, Daily Hive, Le Devoir,

00:10:58.300 Discourse Media, FP Newspapers, NarCity, the Narwhal Salt Wire Network, and the Sprawl,

00:11:03.180 the Thai and Village Media. They're either begging money from Trudeau or begging money from Facebook.

00:11:11.260 Actually, they're not in either or. They're begging from both. Every single one of those

00:11:15.900 magazines is left-wing. Emma Gilchrist, co-founder and editor-in-chief of the Narwhal, said she is

00:11:22.760 pleased with the partnership. Basically provides us with unconditional support to produce more

00:11:27.300 journalism, she said. It's a pretty good deal from our perspective. Yeah, no doubt, sister. Normally,

00:11:32.480 you have to pay Facebook to drive traffic to your site. No one pays you to give traffic to your site.

00:11:40.620 That would be like a billboard company saying, excuse me, can we pay you money to put up a

00:11:45.680 billboard for the privilege of advertising your product for free? That's not commerce. That's called

00:11:51.740 a bribe. Launched in 2018, the Narwhal is a non-profit publication focused on environmental

00:11:58.780 journalism. It is financially supported by memberships. Yeah, that's not quite true. It gets a lot of grants

00:12:04.420 from left-wing anti-oil groups and now from Mark Zuckerberg. Ms. Gilchrist said the initiative is

00:12:10.080 also a way for Facebook to promote strong journalism and combat misinformation on their platform, something

00:12:15.440 the social media company has had issues with in the past. Well, now you're getting to it. This is about

00:12:21.300 combating misinformation, by which they mean, of course, views they disagree with, people they disagree

00:12:27.080 with. That's an environmental extremist, Emma Gilchrist, and she's calling anyone who disagrees 1.00

00:12:32.460 with her theory of man-made global warming. That's misinformation. Hey, who would you rather have

00:12:38.620 curating your news, that is, subsidizing some folks and censoring other folks? Justin Trudeau?

00:12:46.080 Mark Zuckerberg? Well, now it's both. No wonder they all hate revolutions so much. Stay with us for more.

00:12:56.280 But no, I'm not convinced about that. I think that we should continue to investigate

00:13:14.320 what went on in China until we find out, to the best of our ability, exactly what happened. Certainly,

00:13:21.200 the people who've investigated say that it likely was the emergence from an animal reservoir that

00:13:27.760 then infected individuals, but it could have been something else, and we need to find that out. So,

00:13:33.520 you know, that's the reason why I said I'm perfectly in favor of any investigation that looks into the

00:13:39.560 origin of the virus. Well, would you look at that, no one less than Dr. Anthony Fauci himself,

00:13:45.880 saying, hmm, maybe, after all, after saying it was fake news for 14 months, maybe, in fact,

00:13:53.200 the virus from Wuhan came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, something that if you were to have said

00:14:02.080 yourself, you would have been called a conspiracy theorist, a fake news promoter. And in fact,

00:14:08.320 YouTube has been extremely strict in policing contrarian ideas like that, talking about vaccines

00:14:16.560 or the Wuhan virus, or even saying phrases like China virus. Well, that was enough to get my own

00:14:22.300 book by that same title banned by Amazon, not once but twice. And yet there's Fauci saying, no, no, no,

00:14:29.000 it's something we should take a look at. Well, what do we make of the media industrial complex that

00:14:34.860 itself lies, but accuses others of lying to expose them? Well, that is the thesis of the book by our

00:14:43.280 next guest. His name is Alex Marlowe. He's the boss of Breitbart.com. And his book is called Breaking

00:14:49.040 the News, Exposing the Establishment Media's Hidden Deals and Secret Corruption. And Alex Marlowe joins us

00:14:57.260 now from Washington, D.C. Well, congratulations on this book. And I just want to say congratulations on

00:15:02.920 Breitbart.com. I feel like this book, at least how you've laid it out, is a distillation of the entire

00:15:09.940 mission of Breitbart.com, isn't it? I think it is, Ezra. Thanks so much for having me. It's great

00:15:16.380 to catch up. And we love our Canadian readers, of which we have very many, which is very heartening

00:15:20.460 and exciting to us at Breitbart. But yeah, but Breitbart is only necessary because the establishment

00:15:26.260 media is so horrible at their jobs. And apparently they're getting worse. The good news is,

00:15:31.260 is it does seem like, at least in the United States, more and more people every year wisen

00:15:36.440 up to this fact. Something catches their eye and they think, wait a minute, that's not quite right.

00:15:40.740 And this could be one of those examples, the one that you lay out with the virus perhaps coming

00:15:47.400 from the lab. Now, I'm pretty agnostic. I don't know if it's from a lab or from the wet market or

00:15:52.320 could have been in the wet market and then could have went to the lab and then got out. None of that

00:15:56.600 matters to me nearly as much as the fact that the establishment media would have de-platformed

00:16:00.380 you, thrown you offline. If you even hinted that maybe this coincidental lab that just happened

00:16:06.340 to be right there in Wuhan that we happen to be funding in the United States, that that might have

00:16:10.620 had something to do with this virus. Even that suggestion was grounds for cancellation. Of course

00:16:15.940 it was absurd. Of course the lab was at least a legitimate possibility. And we were just sitting

00:16:23.320 here in conservative media going, how crazy do these people think we are to dismiss this out of

00:16:27.800 hand like that? Yeah, that's exactly what the establishment did. Yeah. You know, there's a

00:16:31.840 couple of Canadian angles there too. Our viewers know this. After the pandemic, Trudeau donated over

00:16:37.980 $800,000 in foreign aid to the lab. It's one thing to have been involved with that lab to begin with,

00:16:42.740 but after the pandemic, Trudeau was still sending money over. And of course, we also see our own lab

00:16:49.240 crisis. There's a high risk virus lab in Winnipeg, Canada that had Chinese nationals working at it 1.00

00:16:57.240 until it was shut down by the RCMP. But you're not allowed to talk about these things. At best,

00:17:02.940 they'll call you racist, but at worst, they'll just vaporize you, cancel your channel, knock you off

00:17:09.320 Twitter, Facebook, YouTube. That's what I'm worried about. You said a moment ago, Alex,

00:17:15.000 but you think Americans are wising up to it. And I'll add Canadians in that too. I think some are,

00:17:21.460 but I think whatever progress is being made about enlightening people, things are getting worse on

00:17:28.620 the ground. More people than ever are banned, shadow banned, kicked off their accounts. So it may be

00:17:34.140 that people are wising up, but just as fast as that's happening, they're being, you know, depersoned.

00:17:39.660 What do you think of that? Yeah, you're right about this because the militant wing of the

00:17:44.500 institutional left in the United States, and I'm sure it's similar up north where you guys are,

00:17:49.880 it is getting more powerful, more angry, and more emboldened because they keep getting victories.

00:17:55.320 So even though I think they're relatively few in number, I would say at most maybe 30%

00:17:59.900 in the United States, they seem to have overwhelmed all of our major corporations and virtually every

00:18:05.780 media establishment and tech platform. And that's very scary because even if let's say 50 or even 60%

00:18:12.580 of people are with us ideologically, we're kind of powerless to push back against that 30% number

00:18:18.300 that are so determined to throw off any thought that they disagree with from the web. They don't

00:18:23.780 think about in America, we've got the First Amendment, of course, and it is something that

00:18:27.760 should be cherished. It should be held dear. Instead, we treat it as just some sort of a,

00:18:32.260 some sort of statute, some sort of law that's on the books to be, you know, where we could pick and

00:18:37.940 choose when we want to apply it. It needs to drive us. It needs to drive what we do day in and day out,

00:18:43.740 or else we're going to lose the ability to speak freely as we give that power and we outsource it

00:18:49.020 solely to Silicon Valley and the establishment news. The book is called Breaking the News,

00:18:54.220 Exposing the Establishment Media's Hidden Deals and Secret Corruption. We'll have an Amazon

00:18:57.920 link underneath this video. One of the things I'm worried about is that especially the Democrat

00:19:05.260 Party in the United States and Joe Biden, they've created this threat, they call it domestic violence

00:19:11.060 extremists. It's another way of saying people who oppose Biden so deeply, they're a terrorist risk.

00:19:18.040 We see that same language being echoed up here in Canada. I see little or no evidence that the right 0.99

00:19:25.900 is a risk of violence, especially in Canada. It just hasn't been. But this constant drumbeat,

00:19:33.700 we've got to silence voices like Rebel News or Breitbart.com or Facebook pages because they make

00:19:40.700 the jump to inciting violence. If you're a conservative, well, you're one inch away from

00:19:46.180 going postal about it. How do you deal with that? Because that's my great worry is that being

00:19:51.740 conservative will now be criminalized. That's exactly right. We're now at a point in the United States,

00:19:58.040 at least, where conservative thought is considered violence and violent actions by the left is

00:20:04.560 excused. You see it with the mostly peaceful riots from Black Lives Matter, that a lot of that was

00:20:09.840 actually seen as acceptable because the cause was just in the eyes of the woke media. I break down

00:20:15.920 the history of this in the book and I try to explain how we got to this point. The point we're at is

00:20:21.620 incredibly scary. This is being used as the pretext to throw people offline. Despite the fact,

00:20:27.380 there was so little violence coming from the right in the United States of America. January 6th,

00:20:33.380 four Trump supporters died. We were lied to about what happened to Officer Sicknick.

00:20:38.240 This wasn't some sort of massive violent event. It was a bad day. It was a terrible day for people

00:20:43.400 who support Donald Trump. And I disavowed all of the violent actions at the time and I do so in the

00:20:49.020 book. But that said, it didn't turn into this widespread violent movement the way Black Lives Matter 1.00

00:20:53.820 turned into. And yet the media treats still to this day, January 6th, like it was the worst day

00:20:59.140 in American history and Black Lives Matter like it's some sort of noble cause. A half of America, 1.00

00:21:03.820 at least if not more, sees this as absurd. But this has been happening for a while. The media has been

00:21:09.460 building up to this moment where they're going to portray normative conservative thinking as

00:21:14.380 cancelable as inspiring violence. Ezra, I don't know any white nationalists. I'm not saying they're not

00:21:19.600 out there. I don't know any of them. I don't know a lot of QAnon supporters. I think I know one.

00:21:24.560 But we're constantly told that those are the people that represent the entirety of conservative

00:21:28.960 America. And it's just not accurate. And it's being the design is to throw us off their platforms.

00:21:34.920 Yeah. You know, it's funny you say that. I was just thinking about it. In my entire life,

00:21:39.020 I'm 49. I grew up in a rural, you know, suburb of Calgary. I went to a country school.

00:21:44.020 My sister and I were the only two Jews in a school of 400 kids. Like I've been to places where

00:21:52.040 you're supposed to find discrimination. In my 49 years, I have never seen a swastika. I've never

00:21:59.040 seen a Nazi flag, except very recently, for example, the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas protest. So

00:22:07.020 we've been conditioned and trained to be on the alert for Nazis on the right. And I have to tell you, 0.55

00:22:12.280 I'm, you know, I consider myself a Jewish and I'm interested in Jewish cultural things and I'm

00:22:19.300 worried about anti-Semitism. I'm on the alert for it. I've never in my life seen a swastika except 0.99

00:22:25.080 at a pro-Hamas rally. And I noticed the deafening silence from the official hate finders general on

00:22:32.900 the left, the Anti-Defamation League, the SPLC. Up here, we got something called the Canadian Anti-Hate

00:22:38.300 Network, just absolutely silent when you see swastikas or new Islamic style Nazism on the left.

00:22:46.260 But boy, are they hunting for it on the right, including amongst Jewish conservatives. I think 0.93

00:22:51.820 they're getting away with it more than maybe you say they are, or certainly more than they are in

00:22:57.260 America. I think Canada, that's closer to conventional wisdom than the 60-30 split you were talking about

00:23:03.300 before. Well, I think that there are getting away with it. That's true. I just don't think

00:23:09.180 that they're convincing as many people as they think they are. Case in point, we were told Donald

00:23:13.740 Trump was the biggest racist of all time and racial hatred had just gotten so much worse under Trump.

00:23:19.480 And then he got 10 million more votes the second time around, including increasing the vote with

00:23:24.300 black and Latino Americans. So, which is a great sign. But your point, I've lived exactly what you've

00:23:29.680 described at Breitbart, is we're constantly being told that we're some sort of racist outlet.

00:23:34.000 I know you're close with Joel Pollack, who's an Orthodox Jew, is one of our top editors.

00:23:38.500 Our copy chief is a black woman. Our entertainment editor is a black man. Our world editor is a

00:23:43.640 Latino woman. We have gay writers. We have for all time. The company's owned by Jews. Jews own our 1.00

00:23:49.420 company. And I'm half Jewish myself. We're proud of that. We're proud to be pro-Israel. All of this,

00:23:56.280 and we're supposed to be this font of racism. But Ezra, no one in the establishment media wants

00:24:00.800 to give me the platform that you're giving me. And if they do, it's merely to attack me.

00:24:05.000 And that's why I can explain that to you. And your audience is probably chuckling,

00:24:07.500 thinking, wow, I had no idea about that with Breitbart. Well, that's the truth. And people

00:24:11.120 hold that back because it doesn't fit that narrative.

00:24:13.900 The book is called Breaking the News, Exposing the Establishment Media's Hidden Deals

00:24:17.380 and Secret Corruption. Permit me to ask you a question, because you mentioned it in a promotion for the book.

00:24:22.960 I never had the pleasure of meeting Andrew Breitbart in person, but I did interview him

00:24:27.840 a couple of times at Sun News Network, and I found him electrifying. Let me just read one

00:24:32.400 sentence from your promo. You say, Breitbart began mentoring Marlowe, you were just a 21-year-old

00:24:37.940 student at the time, on how to fight the culture war one headline at a time and to remain resilient

00:24:44.580 in the face of personal attacks. Obviously, you had an outstanding opportunity to be mentored by

00:24:50.680 really, I think Andrew Breitbart was a visionary in how he reframed things.

00:24:56.820 What advice would you have for me personally, for Rebel News, for other journalists, for other

00:25:02.520 people in the public sphere? You say, remain resilient in the face of personal attacks. How?

00:25:08.420 Yeah, it's a great question, and I'm always happy to talk about Andrew, who I owe so much to,

00:25:14.760 as we all do. At Breitbart, really all conservative media, he laid out the blueprint, as I know we

00:25:19.560 discussed a little bit offline, he laid out the blueprint that so many of us follow, and I'm thrilled

00:25:24.540 to get to call him my mentor. And Andrew, he shared something with me that was very clarifying,

00:25:30.740 is that he had two personas, jocularity and righteous indignation, which basically meant he

00:25:36.760 would try to get through to people using humor when he could, and when humor wasn't getting through,

00:25:41.000 then he would use his righteous indignation, his righteous anger. And those are the skill sets that

00:25:46.340 we employ at Breitbart most of the time. When we feel like people are open-minded, are willing to laugh

00:25:51.260 at themselves, and are willing to see their own foibles, poking fun is sometimes the best approach.

00:25:56.160 But when they're really entrenched, and they're really weaponized, and they're really pugilistic,

00:26:01.380 and they're trying to destroy what we stand for, and maybe the people in our lives, then you've got to

00:26:08.040 turn on your righteous indignation, and you've got to make sure never to give an inch, and to be as tough

00:26:11.920 as humanly possible. And this includes defying the establishment no matter what the cost. Again, I disavow

00:26:18.460 violence, but it's still important to think of the perspective that you want to be, you want to have

00:26:22.580 incredible willpower in the face of adversity, which is constantly surrounding us.

00:26:27.480 Yeah, you know what? I think that duality, it made me think of the phrase that Mark Stein used to use,

00:26:33.660 happy warrior. You're a happy warrior, you fight like hell, but you also have a laugh,

00:26:39.260 and you realize you can't be dour all the time, and you've got to live too, you can't just fight.

00:26:44.360 I don't know, maybe that would sum it up. Let me ask you this.

00:26:46.940 No, perfect. Yeah, it's perfect. If people want to dialogue, have the dialogue, be respectful,

00:26:53.480 make your arguments, let the best ideas win. But if they don't, then you should not be afraid to call

00:26:58.620 out names, to investigate, to get to the bottom of whatever is the true motivation behind a person's

00:27:05.420 actions, and to call them out for it.

00:27:07.720 I want to ask you a question. You know, frankly, this question is probably more in the vein of

00:27:11.420 personal advice. Again, I'm asking you all these personal questions, because in some way, we have

00:27:17.600 not a lot of Canadian templates to learn from. There's not a lot of conservative media in Canada.

00:27:23.240 I look to the States, I look at Glenn Beck, I look at what Drudge Report was until recently,

00:27:27.820 I look at the late Rush Limbaugh, and I look at, you know, Daily Caller, which is founded by some

00:27:32.420 alumni of yours, and I look at Breitbart.com. And we really don't have a lot up here on this side of

00:27:38.440 the border. Do you have advice on how to deal with deeper deplatforming? I mean, YouTube suspended us,

00:27:47.880 they let us back on, but I think it's a ticking time bomb there. PayPal, just without notice,

00:27:54.620 explanation, or appeal, ended a six-year relationship. We did, you know, close to $10

00:27:59.420 million with PayPal, just gone, no explanation. I'm a happy warrior. I think we're all happy warriors

00:28:07.700 up here. We love to just fight and fight. And we fight fair fights. But what happens if it's just

00:28:14.080 some thunderbolt from Mount Olympus, and we wake up one day, and we're just not even on the internet?

00:28:20.520 Yeah, there's two ways to fight back. And the first thing is with the law. And I know this is very tough

00:28:25.800 for conservatives, because we all have libertarian streaks, and we would love for just the free

00:28:29.940 market to sort this stuff out. But we're running out of time. The free market thus far has benefited

00:28:34.880 the people who are trying to control our speech and our freedoms. And these are people who are

00:28:39.720 not elected. No one put them in charge. They're just these huge businesses, particularly out of

00:28:44.160 Silicon Valley, with these giant multinational interests. We don't care about America. They 0.87

00:28:47.980 don't care about Canada. They care about their bottom line and advancing this left-wing globalist

00:28:52.200 agenda. And where the law can apply, and Canadian law is going to be different, it should be, we should

00:28:58.480 think about ways to use the law to try to make sure we're holding these entities accountable,

00:29:03.340 particularly the big tech giants. In America, we need some reforms to antitrust. We need to

00:29:08.340 break up these companies if we can. We have this thing called Section 230 of the Communications

00:29:13.200 Decency Act, which has been a disaster, which has allowed the left basically to spread whatever fake

00:29:18.180 news they want, and then to deplatform anyone they want for whatever reason. We need to reform that as

00:29:24.020 well. That's got to be for starters. But the other thing is, we do need to build our own stuff. And

00:29:28.420 it's really hard to do. Parler tried to build their own Twitter, and Amazon threw them off their

00:29:32.580 servers. And it created a huge headache that they haven't fully recovered from, though I'm optimistic

00:29:36.620 they will, down the road. But this is why it's going to be a multi-decade process. And so if you're

00:29:42.260 a financier and you're watching this, if you've got someone with money, if you want to support

00:29:45.720 independent media, I recommend doing it. And we need time to try and fail and have trial and error

00:29:51.960 and to see what's going to stick, what's going to survive court challenges, and what new platforms

00:29:57.400 and entities can get off the ground and start making a difference. It's going to be a long

00:30:01.780 effort. And trust me, the left will be clawing to get whatever territory we take back in real time.

00:30:08.040 So it's going to be a fight, and we've got to get into it right now. We can't wait.

00:30:11.380 Yeah, I think you're right. And I think you're right not to say there's a silver bullet. I think that

00:30:16.440 it took decades to get into this problem. I think it will likely take decades, as you say,

00:30:23.300 one headline at a time to get out of it. Well, listen, it's great to catch up with you. Thank

00:30:26.900 you for coming on our show up here. We'll send an email to our viewers. We'll put this on YouTube

00:30:32.220 and conservative-leaning sites like Rumble and libertarian sites like Odyssey and SuperU,

00:30:38.500 because we can't just use the big tech platform. So thank you, Alex Marlowe. Once more,

00:30:44.480 I'll say the name of the book. We'll put the cover on the screen again. It's called Breaking

00:30:48.280 the News, Exposing the Establishment Media's Hidden Deals and Secret Corruption. I know we

00:30:52.240 spoke more about you and Breitbart and some of the lessons, but I get the feeling that's really

00:30:57.160 what this book is, an expression of the Breitbart mindset and your mindset as the leader of that place.

00:31:04.560 It comes through a lot, but I do think that what people will really get a lot out of the book is

00:31:08.640 all the research. I got to say, I spent a year with a small team of really serious journalists

00:31:13.760 doing deep dives into these corporations. What I found was frankly stunning. I've identified who

00:31:19.920 I believe is the new Soros operating in the United States. I've exposed the extent to which American 0.70

00:31:25.420 businesses are doing business with the communist Chinese and how much they're willing to compromise

00:31:29.360 in order to maintain access to China. Some of the stuff is truly frightening, the conflict of

00:31:33.960 interest in terms of the brand name people in our establishment press. There's a lot of revelations

00:31:39.120 in the book as well, and I think a lot of explanation of where we are and how we got there.

00:31:43.980 Well, I can hardly wait to learn who this new Soros is because the old Soros was bad enough. Alex

00:31:49.060 Marlowe, great to see you. Thanks for your time. Good luck out there.

00:31:52.940 Ezra, appreciate it. My pleasure.

00:31:54.880 All right. There you have it. Alex Marlowe. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:32:09.120 Hey, welcome back on my vaccinated children story. Bruce writes, vaccinating children without parental

00:32:16.340 permission is the latest ploy to arrest the authority of parents by the government. Socialists

00:32:21.280 have done that for decades, and this is just the latest move by so-called progressives to confiscate

00:32:26.020 children from their biological parents. That is right in so many ways. First of all, this pandemic's

00:32:31.120 been around for more than a year. So why can you not wait one day to have parents give their consent

00:32:38.600 and have them involved? Why is it so urgent? You must do this right now. I mean, put aside all the

00:32:44.000 medical arguments we made the other day. Whenever other adults say to a child, shh, don't tell your

00:32:50.800 parents we're going to do something, that's a manipulative move that, frankly, is a form of child

00:32:56.160 abuse. Perry writes, parents make adult decisions on behalf of their children until legal age because

00:33:02.240 the child lacks the experience and the knowledge required in many situations to make a clear and

00:33:06.460 concise decision on their own. The government should have no right to interfere with this.

00:33:11.540 Well, it's worse than that. I couldn't even believe it. This weekend in Toronto, they had a vaccines for

00:33:17.300 kids, vaccines for kids, right outside City Hall in a place called Nathanfield Square. They were giving

00:33:23.060 kids as young as 12 vaccines, again, no parental consent required. And they're giving away ice cream if

00:33:29.380 you did it. That's like, you know, these memes you see of a terrible beat up 70s van that says,

00:33:36.220 you know, free candy, like a terrifying start to a horror movie, just showing how you would trick a

00:33:42.620 child. Oh, free candy. I'll go in this dangerous van. Don't do it. You're saying free ice cream. Hey,

00:33:48.200 kids, if you get this jab, you get free ice cream. Now that I've said free ice cream to a 12 year old a bunch

00:33:53.980 of times, they can make informed consent on whether or not this experimental medicine that it's not yet

00:33:59.080 approved, but it's been authorized, and they'll know the difference. I mean, that really is like

00:34:04.460 the free candy, scary van approach that was going on in downtown Toronto with the approval of the

00:34:13.000 mayor and all everyone else involved. That is not a public health statement. And imagine if you're a

00:34:17.860 poor kid saying, Mommy, Mommy, can I get an ice cream? I can't afford an ice cream. Oh, there's a free

00:34:22.320 ice cream. Oh, but you got to get the jab. Mommy, let me get the jab. They say it's fine. What are we

00:34:27.680 doing? Tammy writes, that is a wrong, that is wrong to do to kids. COVID vaccine have a higher death

00:34:35.040 rate than COVID. I don't know if that's true for the general population, but I know that for children

00:34:41.800 of tender years, I think there's been a single child in Ontario under the age of 20 who's died from

00:34:47.980 the vaccine. Maybe it's like two, but in the whole country, there are literally millions of children.

00:34:53.840 So it's less than a one in a million chance of death from the virus. I don't yet know, and I don't

00:34:58.140 even know if we know the death rate from the vaccine. We don't know its long-term effects because

00:35:03.740 it's only been out a few months. So it's, in my mind, it's statistically absurd to give it to

00:35:09.780 children. I mean, if you want to make that decision, if you're 70 or 80, or if you have the underlying

00:35:14.000 comorbidities, okay, make that decision. But what are you doing going to literally the most immune

00:35:19.120 or the healthiest people in the world and say, yeah, take this and don't tell your parents. It's

00:35:23.660 so gross. That's the show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World

00:35:28.700 Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:44.000 Keep holding.

00:35:46.900 Keep going.

00:35:47.720 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:48.860 Keep fighting for João X.

00:35:49.140 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:49.160 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:51.900 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:53.600 Keep fighting for damn issues.

00:35:56.660 Look and think about himself.

00:36:03.700 God.

Rebel News Podcast - May 26, 2021

Who would you rather have censoring your news — Justin Trudeau or Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg？

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