Rebel News Podcast - What's it like living in the freest state in the freest country？

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00:00:05.780 Tonight my guest is my friend Alex Newman of The New American and The Epoch Times, and

00:00:11.480 he lives in Florida where things are free and open and the conservative governor, Ron

00:00:17.600 DeSantis, is amazing.

00:00:20.140 Just amazing.

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00:01:17.300 What's it like living in the freest state, in the freest country that has ever existed

00:01:40.880 on the face of the earth, in all of human history?

00:01:44.820 My guest tonight explains what it's like to live in beautiful Florida.

00:01:49.800 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:52.120 While here in Canada, Conservative leaders are basically indistinguishable from the worst

00:02:15.000 Liberal or New Democrat politicians in the United States, Conservative Republican governors

00:02:20.580 are holding the line on freedom and civil liberties during the time of the coronavirus,

00:02:24.920 and they're being led by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

00:02:27.440 Now, DeSantis has been under attack for his approach to the coronavirus

00:02:30.280 since the very beginning of the coronavirus scare way back in March.

00:02:36.120 Mainstream media and the left, but I'm kind of repeating myself there,

00:02:40.020 all predicted some sort of mass casualty event because he didn't cancel spring break on the beach.

00:02:45.420 The mass casualty event never actually materialized, but instead of using that approach

00:02:51.240 that DeSantis took to spring break as a learning situation, a teachable moment,

00:02:56.320 as the left says for how to deal with the coronavirus going forward,

00:02:59.700 the left and the media predictably doubled down, ignoring catastrophes unfolding in strict

00:03:06.280 Democrat lockdown states like New York to focus their attention on DeSantis,

00:03:11.840 and cheer for the failure of DeSantis and predict the deaths of Floridians at his hands. 0.98

00:03:18.040 What a bunch of ghouls.

00:03:19.160 But some 15 months later, DeSantis and his approach have been proven right.

00:03:24.320 That lockdowns don't work, that life never should have been disrupted,

00:03:27.660 and that businesses and schools should have remained open from the very beginning.

00:03:33.300 But it's not just on the coronavirus where DeSantis shines,

00:03:36.780 where he's the torchbearer of true conservative values right now in the United States.

00:03:40.520 He's refusing to bow to mainstream media and lefty pressure,

00:03:44.480 again, I'm repeating myself there, on issues of vaccine passports,

00:03:48.140 critical race theory, the Wuhan lab leak hypothesis,

00:03:52.000 and he's even brought in a new law that prevents big tech companies from deplatforming

00:03:56.820 political candidates, something President Trump should have done in his four years in power.

00:04:03.700 Florida is where normal survived the pandemic,

00:04:08.000 while conservative leaders in the rest of the world,

00:04:11.100 well, they haven't taken their boot off the neck of normal in nearly a year and a half.

00:04:15.780 So joining me now to discuss what it's like to live in the beautiful Ron DeSantis utopia

00:04:22.720 is my friend Alex Newman of the New American Magazine and the Epoch Times.

00:04:27.960 Take a listen.

00:04:28.640 Joining me now is Alex Newman from the New American and a host of other publications,

00:04:48.080 and I wanted to have Alex on the show to talk about what could have been in Alberta

00:04:53.960 if our conservative leader was actually conservative, because Alex lives in Florida,

00:05:00.200 the freest state in the union.

00:05:02.800 I think probably the freest jurisdiction in the world right now is going to say the free world,

00:05:08.300 but I think Florida is truly the freest place in the world right now.

00:05:12.020 And you guys in Florida, you're living your best life.

00:05:15.680 You haven't had coronavirus restrictions really ever.

00:05:19.040 But what were left, those are all gone too, right?

00:05:23.360 Yeah.

00:05:23.860 At the state level, we had virtually nothing.

00:05:26.520 Most of the restrictions that we did have came from local tyrants in left-wing jurisdictions.

00:05:31.940 So we actually had the very first pastor arrested was here in Florida.

00:05:36.000 It was a pastor out in Tampa, a very well-known pastor, Pastor Howard.

00:05:40.020 And they did this big show.

00:05:42.600 They had a helicopter and a press conference.

00:05:45.360 They even brought out another pastor to say why this pastor that they were arresting was wrong.

00:05:48.920 But then our dear governor, Ron DeSantis, stepped in and said,

00:05:51.400 look, you need to let that man go right now.

00:05:53.400 Church is essential.

00:05:54.300 Cut it out.

00:05:55.320 And so that was overturned very quickly.

00:05:57.180 And that set the tone for the rest of the pandemic.

00:06:00.260 Our schools opened up almost immediately.

00:06:03.100 We did have a handful of left-wing jurisdictions that mandated the face diapers. 0.98

00:06:07.240 But even those, our governor said anybody who violated one of the local restrictions,

00:06:11.080 he would just pardon them immediately.

00:06:12.740 And our governor does have in our state constitution the authority to pardon people.

00:06:16.700 So basically, we've been living as normal here.

00:06:19.540 I mean, you know, the sensible people have been at least.

00:06:21.420 There's, of course, the people that watch CNN that walk around with a face diaper of their own free will.

00:06:26.900 But no, Florida is really an amazing place to be.

00:06:29.100 And I travel a lot, you know, even around the United States.

00:06:31.600 You're right.

00:06:32.440 The United States is by far, or the state of Florida is by far the freest jurisdiction in the United States.

00:06:37.620 And therefore, I think by extension, it's the freest jurisdiction in the world.

00:06:40.780 And I can promise you, we don't have people dropping dead out in the streets from lack of,

00:06:45.620 you know, face diaper protection and all the rest of it.

00:06:48.640 In fact, if you look at our numbers, they're significantly better than all the states that did the tyranny,

00:06:53.000 New York and Washington.

00:06:55.140 We're doing just fine here.

00:06:56.880 Freedom actually works.

00:06:57.920 Imagine.

00:06:58.260 Yeah, it's funny because a lot of Canadian snowbirds were far more likely to be vaccinated

00:07:03.520 if that's what they want to do, if they were in Florida, as opposed to if they were at home

00:07:08.360 here in Canada.

00:07:11.260 And Governor DeSantis really has set the tone for the entire state.

00:07:17.340 And I think he is, you know, CNN will tell you that Cuomo,

00:07:21.920 Gropio Cuomo was America's governor.

00:07:24.040 But I think DeSantis, if you are a freedom-minded American who believes in the Constitution,

00:07:30.140 then Governor DeSantis truly is America's governor.

00:07:33.140 And I think setting the tone with pardoning people who were being ticketed and hammered

00:07:37.500 with these coronavirus lockdown violations,

00:07:40.240 that's something that I wish I would see from a conservative leader here in Canada.

00:07:46.660 I mean, as you know, we've set up an entire civil liberties charity called Fight the Fines,

00:07:52.200 just helping normal people fight their lockdown tickets.

00:07:54.820 And the majority of those tickets, I'm ashamed to say, are coming from conservative-led jurisdictions

00:08:01.380 like Ontario, like Manitoba, like my home province of Alberta, where we've now imprisoned

00:08:06.140 three pastors for the crime of holding unconstrained church services during the pandemic.

00:08:13.460 Now, I wanted to talk to you about one thing that I think is so indicative of Governor DeSantis's

00:08:23.220 foresight going forward.

00:08:25.300 And this is the one thing that I was highly critical of Trump,

00:08:28.260 because he had the power to do something about big tech,

00:08:31.680 and he just never seemed to get there, but not Governor DeSantis.

00:08:35.800 Yeah, so we did get an excellent new law here in the state of Florida that will try to hold

00:08:42.520 the big tech companies accountable.

00:08:44.000 So if they censor a political candidate who's running for state or even for local office,

00:08:48.880 they will face massive fines.

00:08:51.260 And that's a good start, right?

00:08:52.360 Because we don't want the tech companies interfering in our elections.

00:08:55.480 They also will have to disclose if they're giving people a boost, right?

00:08:58.620 If their favorite candidate is getting shown up in everybody's news feeds,

00:09:01.940 they'll have to reveal that.

00:09:03.000 They'll have to report that as an in-kind donation.

00:09:05.920 So these are very, very good steps.

00:09:08.180 I hope we're going to see a lot more of this.

00:09:09.920 I hope this will be just the first step in trying to sort this out.

00:09:13.580 There's a lot of things at work here, you know, and I'm the first one to say,

00:09:16.280 yeah, companies should have freedom to do what they want.

00:09:19.380 But this is a totally different animal.

00:09:21.220 What we're talking about here with the social media companies,

00:09:23.380 and even companies like Google, is an effort to deceive people.

00:09:27.680 It's an effort to manipulate people.

00:09:29.280 Project Veritas just revealed, just in the last few days,

00:09:32.740 an incredibly explosive story out of Facebook that naturally is being censored,

00:09:36.500 where they're actually assigning a score to people's comments,

00:09:40.160 to people's posts about vaccines.

00:09:42.420 And the more vaccine-hesitant it is, the lower score it gets,

00:09:46.040 and therefore it gets basically hidden.

00:09:48.400 Nobody can see it, whereas it's opposed to pro-vaccine nonsense.

00:09:51.120 Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you,

00:09:52.300 but this sounds a lot like a social credit score that you would see from the CCP.

00:09:55.900 Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

00:09:57.680 That's where this is all moving.

00:09:59.680 That's what's so Orwellian about this.

00:10:02.040 And so actually, I wrote an article in the Epoch Times probably a couple months ago now

00:10:05.960 about legislation that was being pursued in Montana.

00:10:08.740 I think this was a really, really good model as well.

00:10:10.960 It failed by one vote, unfortunately.

00:10:13.360 A couple of the rhino Republicans, we call them the Republicans in name only, 1.00

00:10:17.020 crossed over to vote with Democrats.

00:10:18.580 And so they were able to block this this time.

00:10:20.840 But what it would have done is put the social media companies under the Montana has what

00:10:25.480 they call a public service commission.

00:10:27.100 It's an elected commission.

00:10:28.440 And this would have put them under the authority of the public service commission.

00:10:32.560 So under the legislation, if these companies were discriminating against people based on

00:10:37.340 their political views, based on their religious views, if you're a Christian, for example,

00:10:41.260 you would have had recourse.

00:10:42.420 You could have gone to the public service commission and said, look, this company is discriminating

00:10:45.560 against me.

00:10:46.260 And then the public service commission would offer the company the opportunity to make it right.

00:10:50.080 And if they refuse, then they would pay massive fines.

00:10:53.920 And so I interviewed a lot of people involved from the state senate, from the state house,

00:10:57.180 and also from the public service commission.

00:10:59.060 And I said, look, this is the same thing as saying, like, you know, if you're a black 0.84

00:11:02.420 person or a Muslim, you got to ride at the back of the bus, right? 0.99

00:11:04.900 I mean, it's not acceptable in our society anymore.

00:11:07.800 And then you add to the fact, add to this, the fact that these social media companies were

00:11:11.860 stood up with help from our government, with help from taxpayer money.

00:11:16.120 In-Q-Tel is always right there behind the scenes, the investment arm of the intelligence

00:11:19.600 community.

00:11:20.600 And you realize these are not just independent companies.

00:11:23.760 These are almost appendages of the government.

00:11:27.860 And they need to be brought to heel.

00:11:29.200 They need to be brought under control.

00:11:30.800 And so I'm very proud of our governor.

00:11:32.160 I'm very proud of our legislature for taking these actions to try to hold these people

00:11:36.120 accountable.

00:11:36.600 And again, hopefully it'll just be the first step among many in bringing these wicked,

00:11:41.060 wicked corporations to heel.

00:11:42.380 Yeah, I mean, when you think about the size of these companies and the information that

00:11:47.460 they control, and in the case of PayPal, which has been problematic, to use the language of

00:11:53.760 the left for us here at Rebel News, but also for you, you told me, you know, they really

00:12:00.040 are like virtual countries.

00:12:03.240 They're oligarchs, really.

00:12:04.580 With the amount of, again, information they control and finance they control, they really

00:12:09.800 get to decide who gets heard and who doesn't.

00:12:12.720 And it's really interesting to see the people who would not shut up about Russian collusion

00:12:19.960 for years and years and years defend social media and big tech collusion, working to silence

00:12:30.020 the competition to their preferred candidates.

00:12:33.300 Yeah, it really is outrageous.

00:12:35.160 I'm glad you brought up PayPal.

00:12:36.380 Just a couple of days after I had you on my program to talk about how PayPal banned Rebel

00:12:40.380 Media, they banned little old me. 0.98

00:12:42.940 And, you know, it's just pathetic. 0.99

00:12:45.060 I think they have this unhinged bigotry. 0.98

00:12:48.280 But, frankly, I think in a real way, this is opening up a space for competition, and

00:12:53.740 hopefully that's going to be a healthy thing.

00:12:55.340 If I was a shareholder of PayPal, I'd probably be filing a lawsuit, because this is obviously

00:12:59.540 not in the best interest of the shareholders.

00:13:02.120 They're, I think, flagrantly violating their fiduciary obligation to the people who invested

00:13:07.720 in this company and expect this company to make business decisions based on what's going

00:13:11.620 to make profit, not based on pursuing their insane hatred and bigotry against Christians

00:13:16.020 and conservatives.

00:13:16.740 But, you know, be that as it may, these social media companies, they really, they've gotten

00:13:21.660 so much power now to the point where they're influencing elections.

00:13:24.300 They're manipulating people to make certain medical decisions without fully understanding

00:13:28.480 the implications of that.

00:13:29.920 It's a very, very dangerous situation.

00:13:32.740 And so, you know, I'm glad that so many American states are now working on this.

00:13:36.780 I agree with you.

00:13:37.280 Trump really should have hit this harder.

00:13:39.000 He had a good understanding of what was happening and how they were all working against him.

00:13:43.140 But we really do need to bring these companies under control.

00:13:46.320 The consequences for self-government, for individual liberty, even for proper understanding.

00:13:52.420 Right.

00:13:52.560 Our governor here, Ron DeSantis, convened a panel of scientists.

00:13:56.000 It was really some of the top scientists in the world.

00:13:57.780 He had scientists from Oxford, from Stanford, from Harvard University on the coronavirus

00:14:02.700 restrictions, the face mask mandates, the shutdowns, lockdowns.

00:14:07.440 And he actually asked them, well, what about this censorship that we're seeing now from

00:14:10.960 the big technology companies?

00:14:12.420 They said, look, that's actually dangerous.

00:14:14.320 OK, the way you pursue science is people have a discussion and you present your evidence

00:14:19.500 and then people have a chance to say, no, that evidence is wrong for this reason.

00:14:22.200 That's how we move forward with scientific knowledge, with medical knowledge.

00:14:25.500 And yet when you have an entire side of the conversation or multiple sides of the conversation

00:14:29.500 just being squashed in silence, you run the risk of making some very, very serious mistakes.

00:14:34.580 You run the risk.

00:14:35.000 And when you're talking about public health, we're talking about the lives of millions

00:14:37.660 of people on the line here.

00:14:39.100 They said this is dangerous.

00:14:40.460 Dr. Scott Atlas said this is a dangerous phenomenon.

00:14:43.200 And I agree.

00:14:44.240 People's lives are being put at risk here.

00:14:46.180 And unless these social media companies want to be held personally liable for some of these

00:14:51.520 kinds of mistakes that result from their censorship.

00:14:53.360 Like, you know, this thing where they said that the Wuhan virus was totally naturally.

00:14:57.460 They actually censored us for suggesting that it might have come out of this Institute of

00:15:00.740 Virology in communist China.

00:15:02.740 Now, Dr. Fauci says, well, maybe that happened.

00:15:05.000 So, you know, now they're having to walk that.

00:15:06.480 Are they going to go back and uncensor us?

00:15:07.920 Are they going to go back and remove all those strikes?

00:15:10.240 I can guarantee you they won't.

00:15:11.960 So we have a real problem here with, you know, some some geeks in Silicon Valley with, you

00:15:16.140 know, purple hair and transgender, you know, trying to decide what medical information 0.95

00:15:20.200 doctors are allowed to talk about.

00:15:22.100 They're not doctors.

00:15:23.240 And even if they were, they don't know everything.

00:15:25.480 It's a grotesque situation.

00:15:27.060 And I think somebody needs to be held responsible.

00:15:29.960 Yeah.

00:15:30.140 I mean, you see a lot of.

00:15:32.260 And again, this goes back to how you and I first met at the UN climate change conferences.

00:15:37.040 You see a lot of the same attitude being applied to the coronavirus as you see applied to climate

00:15:44.500 change, as in the science is settled.

00:15:47.320 The debate is over.

00:15:49.220 Anybody who talks about maybe there's a different way to do things. 0.99

00:15:53.420 You're a complete heretic.

00:15:54.560 Um, and even when the doomsday predictions don't manifest, which they haven't in either circumstance,

00:16:02.600 everybody just pretends like they didn't make those doomsday predictions and that they weren't

00:16:06.840 wrong.

00:16:07.080 And then they just keep moving forward because they're the same people with the power to

00:16:10.740 censor the internet.

00:16:11.480 That's right.

00:16:12.660 Uh, and you, you know, Sheila, this is a hallmark of people who are wrong.

00:16:16.300 Um, if their arguments were good, if their evidence was strong, if their predictions were

00:16:20.100 credible, there would be absolutely no need to censor people, to shadow ban people, to

00:16:24.780 have Google write the algorithms to, you know, not return news from rebel news or whatever.

00:16:29.560 Um, it, it really is, uh, evidence, I think clear evidence that these people understand

00:16:36.020 that in a free marketplace of ideas, their lies and their propaganda are going to lose.

00:16:40.780 You know, that's when in, in the 2016 election, I think they had this realization that, oh my

00:16:44.740 goodness, our propaganda is not working anymore.

00:16:47.260 Uh, you know, if people have, and it was still a rigged marketplace of ideas, there were still

00:16:50.760 shadow banning people who told the truth.

00:16:52.580 It wasn't quite, you know, banning completely, but you know, now we see why if people have the

00:16:58.400 option, they'll go for the truth.

00:17:00.220 At least many of them will.

00:17:01.400 And, and their narratives were imploding.

00:17:03.140 I mean, all, all the big media companies together on YouTube, we're getting less views

00:17:08.200 than just some, the handful of alternative voices.

00:17:10.580 So they got really scared.

00:17:12.260 And I think this is in a way an admission that they realize, uh, their narrative is losing.

00:17:18.480 So it's encouraging in one way, but we do need to have our States, uh, and maybe even, uh,

00:17:24.320 federal governments step into this and say, look, this is inappropriate.

00:17:27.980 It's against our laws.

00:17:29.200 It's also deceitful, right?

00:17:30.700 Most people who sign up to Facebook or who use Google, they assume that this is an honest,

00:17:35.560 even playing field that when they search for something in Google, they're going to get

00:17:38.800 results based on some objective criteria, not based on the personal preferences of some

00:17:43.180 tech geek in Silicon Valley.

00:17:44.880 And yet that's not what they're getting.

00:17:46.840 Uh, plus you add to that, the data gathering, the data, my, who gave Google permission to save

00:17:51.700 every search result we've ever made.

00:17:53.200 Nobody did.

00:17:54.000 Right.

00:17:54.140 I mean, it's in the terms of service.

00:17:55.620 It's just absolutely crazy.

00:17:57.180 And I think we need to have a broad national and really international discussion about the

00:18:02.300 power that these corporations have usurped, the deceptive business practices they're using.

00:18:06.640 And I think we ought to start with Michael Crow in the state of Arizona, uh, who his cover

00:18:11.120 job is a president of Arizona state university, but his real job is chairman of Inc.

00:18:15.100 You tell the CIA NSA investment company that's standing up all these companies and then weaponizing

00:18:20.920 them against the people of the United States.

00:18:23.780 Boy, oh boy.

00:18:24.800 It's scary when you realize the power these people have, and then all the things they know

00:18:30.320 about you and you, and that you let them know about you because you just signed up for this

00:18:35.620 stuff thinking, as you say, that these are just ways to connect with people instead of

00:18:41.340 ways to mine every little bit about who you are and what you like and who your friends are.

00:18:46.960 I mean, it's just, yeah, it's creepy when you think about it.

00:18:49.840 Um, now I wanted to ask you about another thing that Ron DeSantis has done, and it's again,

00:18:56.520 completely opposite of what's happening here in some of the more conservative jurisdictions

00:19:02.060 in Canada.

00:19:03.140 Right now in Alberta, our reopening is tied to our vaccination rate.

00:19:09.060 Basically, if we aren't strong armed into getting a vaccine, well then our neighbors who run 0.89

00:19:15.140 a small business, they may never get to open their restaurant again or that kind of thing.

00:19:19.700 You're, you're being coerced through guilt, uh, and into, you know, taking, um, a vaccine

00:19:27.240 and whatever you feel about the efficacies of this vaccine or these vaccines or not, I'm

00:19:33.360 strongly against coercion and tying the reopening of the economy to these things.

00:19:38.100 And on the flip side, in the freest place in the world, in Florida, you've got a governor

00:19:43.700 who just banned a vaccine passport.

00:19:46.480 Yeah.

00:19:46.960 Again, we, we are just so blessed to be here in Florida and, you know, in church and in

00:19:52.500 community meetings, everybody's just so thankful for our governor, uh, for having the foresight

00:19:57.780 here.

00:19:58.000 He was, you know, one of the first to speak out against this.

00:20:00.900 He did use an executive order to ban it.

00:20:02.760 Uh, and then he said, and I just, I love this about him.

00:20:05.220 Look, an executive order is not enough.

00:20:07.140 Okay.

00:20:07.440 We need to put this in our laws because I'm not going to be governor forever.

00:20:10.660 Who knows who's going to be the next governor?

00:20:12.320 We need to make sure that there is a law in place.

00:20:15.220 And so he actually went to the legislature.

00:20:17.180 He convinced the legislature that we needed an actual law on the books that would make this

00:20:21.700 ban permanent and final.

00:20:24.260 Uh, and so they did, uh, the, the legislature passed the law, the governor signed that.

00:20:28.260 And so we are now the first and maybe the only jurisdiction on planet or, you know, some

00:20:33.280 of the other governors have taken action, but we actually have a law in place so that

00:20:36.900 the next governor can't come in and say, just kidding.

00:20:38.620 We're having a vaccine passports. 0.70

00:20:40.000 Uh, and so God bless Ron DeSantis, God bless our legislature for this.

00:20:43.680 Uh, and you know, because Florida did this, everybody else almost in the world is going

00:20:47.780 to benefit.

00:20:48.540 Florida is one of the top tourism destinations on planet earth.

00:20:51.800 I mean, we've got Orlando, we've got Miami, we've got, we've got people from all over

00:20:55.240 the world that are constantly coming here.

00:20:57.720 And, um, and this is, I think a real strong message and we've had some of the big crony

00:21:02.380 companies that, you know, the cruise lines, Norwegian cruise lines, remember that name.

00:21:06.560 They're trying to bully our governor.

00:21:08.140 They're trying to bully our legislature right now into overturning those restrictions so

00:21:12.360 that they can mandate vaccines and mandate vaccine passports to go on their cruises.

00:21:17.380 And again, regardless of what you think of these experimental shots that are not even FDA

00:21:21.100 approved, by the way, they're only approved for emergency use authorization, regardless

00:21:24.580 of what you think of these things.

00:21:25.940 And I encourage you to go listen to some of the doctors who are being censored and find

00:21:29.180 out why they're being censored, but regardless of what you think of these things, it is immoral

00:21:32.980 to make people have to carry their papers and prove their health status and their vaccination

00:21:37.240 status to be able to participate in everyday life.

00:21:40.820 Um, you know, this is one of the reasons why the Nazis got in so much trouble at the Nuremberg,

00:21:44.200 right?

00:21:44.380 You got to carry your papers everywhere.

00:21:45.880 You're going to subject people to medical experimentation against their will without informed consent.

00:21:51.460 I mean, these principles have been enshrined in Western law and American law for many

00:21:56.800 generations and for good reason.

00:21:58.780 And yet now we're just throwing that all out the window.

00:22:01.560 So Ron DeSantis and our governor, our legislature have done a very, very important thing here.

00:22:06.860 I hope this will inspire other states to follow suit.

00:22:09.500 I know Canada is not quite as fortunate, but hey, it's never too late to turn around, walk

00:22:15.220 back from the cliff and use some common sense here.

00:22:17.700 Yeah, it's really something to see Ron DeSantis, not only protecting people's rights, but I

00:22:24.440 mean, he's preserving human dignity and privacy.

00:22:27.900 You do not have to disclose your private medical information to complete and total strangers on

00:22:34.300 a cruise line.

00:22:35.340 You know, that's really what it comes down to.

00:22:37.480 Do you have a right to hold your private medical information private or do you have to give it

00:22:43.300 to everybody just so that you can participate in society and, you know, good for Governor

00:22:48.940 DeSantis and good for him on so many things.

00:22:51.440 He also has banned critical race theory in school and or is it in school or is it in government

00:22:56.940 in general?

00:22:58.440 In schools, actually.

00:22:59.700 Okay, great.

00:23:00.560 What a protection for parents, by the way, to do that for them.

00:23:04.780 Yeah, it's really been phenomenal.

00:23:06.640 I want to say one more thing about the vaccine passports, you know, even for the people who 0.97

00:23:10.080 think maybe this vaccine passport might be a good idea because I don't trust the vaccine

00:23:13.920 enough to trust that after I've gotten it, I'm going to be protected.

00:23:16.440 Even if you believe that, what happens when they start mandating the next one and then

00:23:19.800 the next one after that and then they start adding other stuff to it.

00:23:23.120 You know, maybe you need to prove this status or that status and then they turn it into a

00:23:27.800 Chinese social credit system where, well, you've got a score and you haven't had all

00:23:31.120 your vaccines.

00:23:31.700 Plus, you've expressed unpopular opinions on Facebook.

00:23:34.720 Well, you know, we probably can't let you on this airplane.

00:23:37.240 It's very dangerous, folks.

00:23:38.600 Even if you're okay with it where it is right now, you've got to realize this is just the

00:23:42.700 building block that we'll be built upon.

00:23:44.880 As for the critical race theory issues, yes, Ron DeSantis did issue an order making this

00:23:52.320 prohibited in government indoctrination centers posing as schools.

00:23:57.040 Unfortunately, I've heard from all across the state that even though the governor has banned

00:24:01.100 this, this nonsense is still being taught.

00:24:03.340 They're still using textbooks that use it.

00:24:05.300 So we're going to have to go a step further.

00:24:06.700 You know, the critical race theory, unfortunately, this has been around for a long time and only

00:24:10.860 just recently kind of bubbled into public view.

00:24:13.500 But this, this is a worldview.

00:24:15.220 In fact, I just finished reading an incredible book by Votie Baucom, one of the best known

00:24:19.620 evangelical pastors here in America.

00:24:21.300 Now he actually lives in Africa.

00:24:23.080 He, he runs the African Christian University.

00:24:26.040 But he wrote this incredible book called Fault Lines and he calls this a demonic cult.

00:24:30.660 Um, you know, and this is a mainstream, very well-known pastor.

00:24:34.080 He says, this is a worldview.

00:24:35.440 And the problem is many of our teachers have been infected.

00:24:38.000 This is how they see the world.

00:24:39.320 Now it is of course, a Marxist worldview.

00:24:42.240 Um, I interviewed a wonderful lady from China, uh, Lily Tang Williams. 0.99

00:24:46.220 I serve on a board with her and she said, this is exactly the same kind of stuff that Chairman

00:24:50.020 Mao did in China.

00:24:51.520 Uh, he, he got the kids, he divided them up.

00:24:53.820 He forced them all into these indoctrination centers called public schools.

00:24:56.660 Then he divided them up into two classes.

00:24:58.740 You had the black classes and the red classes. 0.96

00:25:00.820 Uh, the black classes were the bad ones. 1.00

00:25:02.720 They were the ones who were counter-revolutionaries, landowners, business owners, middle-class people, 0.98

00:25:07.420 uh, Christians, uh, and so on. 0.68

00:25:09.180 And then you had the red classes.

00:25:10.340 These were the landless peasants, the revolutionary soldiers, the communist party members.

00:25:14.500 Uh, and so you divide the kids up into two classes.

00:25:17.520 They actually would force the kids in the black classes to stand up in front of the class. 0.97

00:25:21.520 And do what they called self-criticism.

00:25:23.560 We're seeing the exact same kind of stuff here.

00:25:25.680 They're forcing, uh, children of European heritage or even Christian children to stand 0.94

00:25:29.740 up in front of the class and apologize for their privilege.

00:25:32.840 Uh, and what, uh, Lily said is look, you know, it didn't happen right away, but within

00:25:36.360 a few years, the blood started flowing, right?

00:25:38.540 You divide people up into oppressed and oppressors.

00:25:41.020 And it's of course a Marxist way of looking at things.

00:25:43.660 So Trump did try to get a handle on this at the federal level.

00:25:46.440 He banned a critical race theory trainings and indoctrination of federal employees.

00:25:50.220 I'm very glad that Ron DeSantis has, has started the process here in Florida, but this is going

00:25:54.960 to be a very, very tough issue to crack because when a large segment of your teachers and a

00:26:01.040 large segment of your textbooks use critical race theory as the lens through which they

00:26:05.940 understand everything.

00:26:07.380 Um, it's not like you could just wave a magic wand and get rid of it.

00:26:10.680 It's going to be a long process.

00:26:12.320 Um, I'm glad now that parents are speaking out.

00:26:14.520 I'm glad now that other governors have followed Ron DeSantis's lead and are speaking out as well,

00:26:18.500 but this is going to be a very long, very difficult, very arduous process to get this

00:26:23.720 out, assuming it's even possible at this point.

00:26:26.420 Now, I think that brings me to, um, something that you are doing outside of your journalism

00:26:32.020 work.

00:26:32.680 Um, because as you rightly point out, this is so entrenched in the school system.

00:26:36.860 It's going to take so long to weed out. 0.53

00:26:39.940 So, you know, why send your kids every day to some sort of Marxist struggle section, session

00:26:46.320 masquerading as school?

00:26:47.940 Why don't you just homeschool them? 0.91

00:26:49.560 So why don't you tell us a little bit about your, the work that you do in, uh, helping

00:26:53.840 parents understand that they are able to homeschool their kids and, and do it well.

00:27:00.680 Yeah.

00:27:01.160 Well, thank you so much, Sheila, for the, for the opportunity.

00:27:03.020 And, uh, there's some really good news on that front.

00:27:05.100 Our census bureau just released some data, uh, very recently, and they found that the

00:27:08.940 number of homeschool families has more than doubled since the pandemic started.

00:27:12.140 We've now, we've gone from like 5.6% of families with school-aged children to now approaching

00:27:16.720 12%.

00:27:17.720 Uh, very, very good news.

00:27:19.520 Plus we see, uh, enrollment in private schools picking up, uh, meanwhile, enrollment in these

00:27:23.540 government indoctrination centers is collapsing.

00:27:25.720 And so this has been a passion of mine for a long time.

00:27:28.280 Uh, I started writing about common core when they tried to nationalize our education standards

00:27:32.740 back in 2012, 2013, uh, 2014 and 15, we wrote a book called crimes of the educators.

00:27:38.940 Uh, and that's when it really hit me that all these other issues that people are concerned

00:27:42.760 about, that people care about, um, education runs through all of them.

00:27:46.280 Uh, and if we continue allowing the overwhelming majority of our children to be indoctrinated,

00:27:50.780 to hate their parents, hate America, hate our constitution, hate their church, hate God. 0.55

00:27:55.860 Uh, we are going to lose these battles in the longterm.

00:27:59.960 And so, uh, to that end, uh, we've, we've done a lot of different things.

00:28:03.240 We've now produced a special report in the new American magazine called rescuing our children.

00:28:07.000 I did a speaking tour through the United States, basically just showing parents what's going

00:28:10.640 on in the public school system and showing them that homeschooling is it works.

00:28:14.420 It's amazing.

00:28:15.460 Homeschool kids are just running circles around the victims of government schools. 0.92

00:28:18.820 And now we've finally started a, uh, an organization to raise awareness about this, to work with

00:28:23.820 churches on this is called public school exit.

00:28:26.100 You can find us at public school exit.com.

00:28:28.220 And our goal is to show parents and to show pastors what's happening in the public schools

00:28:33.000 and show them that there are great alternatives out there that don't involve government.

00:28:37.180 You don't need to hand your children over to the government for 12 years, for five days

00:28:41.620 a week, uh, for them to become educated.

00:28:43.980 In fact, just the opposite is happening and you don't have to believe me.

00:28:46.440 The government has the data.

00:28:47.940 They'll proudly tell you that less than one third of the children in government schools are

00:28:52.620 actually proficient in anything, Sheila.

00:28:55.380 And, you know, that's why parents think they're sending their kids to learn how to read, write,

00:28:58.180 do math, science, history.

00:28:59.500 And the government itself admits they don't know how to do those things.

00:29:03.440 They do know man-made global warming hypothesis inside and out.

00:29:06.640 They know, uh, gender theory.

00:29:08.340 Uh, they know that, uh, uh, people are oppressors and people are oppressed.

00:29:12.700 You know, you have cisgender privilege.

00:29:14.040 Uh, but when it comes to the actual things, parents expect their children to learn, they're not

00:29:18.060 learning it.

00:29:18.540 So for me, it's a big passion and I hope parents, you know, I'm a parent, I've got five children.

00:29:23.300 Um, I, I think it's critical that parents understand, um, there are other options out

00:29:28.220 there.

00:29:28.440 You don't have to sacrifice your children on the altar of convenience.

00:29:31.500 You don't have to follow the lemmings over the cliff. 1.00

00:29:34.120 Start by protecting your own children and then sound the alarm.

00:29:37.380 You know what?

00:29:38.220 I think that's one of the things that might come out of this pandemic besides, you know,

00:29:42.100 economic devastation and the stripping of civil liberties.

00:29:44.600 But let's put that aside for a second.

00:29:47.460 And, uh, you know, um, that parents now realize that you don't have to be, uh, you know, a

00:29:55.640 teacher to teach your kids.

00:29:57.040 You're the first best educator of your child.

00:29:59.440 The times in which your child is making the greatest strides in their development, you

00:30:04.280 were there, you were the one teaching that.

00:30:06.420 And, you know, I think that convenience argument now can also go out the window because parents,

00:30:12.880 a lot of parents who've had their kids out of school because of the pandemic, um, they've

00:30:17.560 realized that, you know what, we can sort of structure our children's learning around

00:30:22.120 everything else that we're doing and what could be more convenient than that.

00:30:26.860 Instead of stopping what we're doing, sending the kid to school, coming home and then planning

00:30:31.560 our lives around school.

00:30:34.700 Yeah.

00:30:35.520 Education and school fit to like education and life fit together when you're homeschooling

00:30:41.120 now.

00:30:41.900 Yeah, they do.

00:30:42.680 And that's what a lot of parents have realized.

00:30:44.480 I've gotten so many emails from, you know, moms and dads who say, you know, I saw what

00:30:48.420 they were teaching my kids in the zoom, right?

00:30:49.980 A lot of kids did government school at home for a time.

00:30:52.220 Uh, they said, I was horrified by that.

00:30:53.940 And so we started homeschooling and we realized, Hey, we can do it.

00:30:56.420 And it's fun.

00:30:56.980 And our family's stronger and our children are happier and they're learning more and they're

00:31:00.360 becoming more respectful.

00:31:01.420 And, you know, now we're doing co-op.

00:31:02.880 And so now they've got lots of new friends and these friends are a positive influence.

00:31:05.980 They're not pestering them to, to go, uh, you know, take drugs and fornicate and,

00:31:09.320 you know, whatever, uh, so it's just, there, there's so many benefits to this, uh, not just

00:31:13.640 for the individual children.

00:31:14.640 I tell you, when you look at homeschool families, they tend to be some of the strongest, happiest

00:31:18.780 families.

00:31:19.600 Uh, and there's a good reason for that.

00:31:21.320 Right.

00:31:21.580 I, so I just can't encourage people strongly enough to, to look into this, look into your

00:31:26.340 options.

00:31:26.900 Yeah.

00:31:27.000 I know you went to government school and you think you came out fine back in the 1970s

00:31:30.980 or eighties or nineties or whatever it is.

00:31:32.600 Uh, it's getting worse by the moment.

00:31:34.480 Uh, critical race theory is just the tip of the iceberg.

00:31:37.140 Uh, it's just all around a disaster.

00:31:40.160 And again, you don't have to believe, uh, Sheila and I just look at the government's

00:31:43.640 own data on what this public school system is doing to our kids and recognize that there

00:31:48.060 are other options and, and maybe homeschooling is right for you.

00:31:51.200 Maybe there's a good private school in your neighborhood, but there's gotta be some sort

00:31:54.640 of non-government option where your children can do much better and actually thrive and

00:31:59.100 flourish.

00:32:00.420 Alex, why don't you give us, uh, some of the other places where people can find the work

00:32:04.700 that you do and support the work that you do.

00:32:07.220 Uh, thank you so much, Sheila.

00:32:08.280 So, uh, my personal website is liberty sentinel.org.

00:32:11.940 Uh, that's kind of my blog and that's my company where I do different things.

00:32:15.440 Uh, then, uh, I'm a senior editor at the new American.

00:32:18.200 You can go to the new American.com.

00:32:19.740 If you want that special report, I mentioned on education is the new American.com forward

00:32:23.600 slash rescuing our children.

00:32:25.820 Uh, you can get it in PDF if you live in Canada, so you don't have to worry about shipping.

00:32:29.400 Uh, we have a sequel that'll be coming out this summer.

00:32:31.620 We're actually just wrapping it up right now because things got so much crazier in the

00:32:34.940 last two years.

00:32:36.000 Uh, I've done a whole series over at the Epic times on the history of the public school

00:32:39.680 system.

00:32:40.060 You can find those there and, uh, yeah, it's kind of a good start.

00:32:43.580 And thank you so much for having me on, Sheila.

00:32:45.080 Thank you for what you're doing.

00:32:46.620 Uh, you know, the, the reporting you guys are doing at rebel media and, and especially focusing

00:32:50.840 on what's happening with these pastors, you know, the world thanks you, you know, everybody

00:32:54.760 owes you guys a debt of gratitude.

00:32:56.200 It's just phenomenal what you're doing.

00:32:57.760 And the fact that PayPal has now banned you speaks volumes as to how effective you are

00:33:02.420 in crushing their lies and their propaganda.

00:33:05.240 Well, Alex, thank you so much for your kind words.

00:33:06.960 Thank you so much for being so generous with your time.

00:33:09.060 And we'll have you back on again, on again, very, very soon.

00:33:11.680 You're always very popular with, uh, rebel viewers.

00:33:15.180 Thank you so much, Sheila.

00:33:16.460 Thanks, Alex.

00:33:17.000 You know, I'm so happy for Florida that they have somebody like DeSantis who is carrying

00:33:31.440 on that Trump-ish legacy of not being scared of the mainstream media and instead doing what's

00:33:37.320 right for the people who voted for him.

00:33:39.580 And now with Florida as a case study, conservative politicians around the world, and especially

00:33:45.780 here in Canada, in Alberta, Ontario, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan, well, they all owe their citizens

00:33:52.160 an apology for what they've done to our lives, to our businesses, to our children, and to our

00:33:58.660 freedom.

00:33:59.120 Because these politicians allowed themselves to be manipulated by fear and public pressure

00:34:05.220 from every special interest group, except the people who voted them into power.

00:34:13.320 Will we ever get that apology?

00:34:15.580 I'm not holding my breath.

00:34:17.660 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:34:19.200 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:34:20.440 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:34:23.880 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:34:29.120 I'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - May 27, 2021

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