Rebel News Podcast - Why are so many front-line health care workers refusing to take the vaccines？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, why are so many frontline health care workers refusing to take the vaccines? 0.55

00:00:20.000 It's March 12th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:24.320 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:27.920 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:32.220 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:42.860 I'm not sure if you know this, but Rebel News is putting together an advisory board.

00:00:47.480 Our longtime friend Raheel Raza is the chair of it.

00:00:50.840 Barbara Santamaria, one of our most loyal supporters, is on it too.

00:00:54.180 And the latest member is Larry Solomon.

00:00:57.980 A columnist and philanthropist, here's how we describe our board on our website.

00:01:05.160 The Rebel News Advisory Board supports the editorial and strategic decision-making of the Rebel News team.

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00:01:24.440 So I'm glad to have these great allies, and we're going to add a few more.

00:01:29.580 Anyways, I want to show you what Larry published in the Epoch Times.

00:01:34.600 I think it's not only well-written, but it has real news in it, some of which I knew from before, but some of which I didn't.

00:01:42.080 So I'm going to take you through it.

00:01:44.080 I did a bit of this on my noontime live stream earlier today, but I'd like to go through it a bit deeper now.

00:01:49.580 By the way, you can read the Epoch Times online for free.

00:01:52.900 You just have to register with your email.

00:01:55.360 I'd also encourage you to become a paying subscriber to that print edition, which I am.

00:02:00.220 It's the only print newspaper I take, actually.

00:02:03.280 It's a weekly newspaper in Canada, and it is so well done.

00:02:05.860 It's a great newspaper.

00:02:07.720 We love the Epoch Times.

00:02:09.080 You'll remember we did a show about it as recently as last night, and we've defended them because they are being deplatformed just the same way we are.

00:02:17.140 So we stand up for them.

00:02:18.100 Anyways, I read Larry's column in the Epoch Times, and it's great, and even better, it's full of links to his underlying sources of facts, which is more than you get in most media, am I right?

00:02:28.620 Can I take you through his column?

00:02:30.100 I have some pride in it because Larry is our advisor, but obviously the work is all his.

00:02:34.740 So here's the article on the website.

00:02:38.220 The biggest COVID-19 vaccine skeptics?

00:02:41.620 Frontline health care workers.

00:02:43.620 What do frontline health care workers and first responders know about COVID-19 vaccines that politicians and their public health advisors don't?

00:02:52.340 Huh.

00:02:53.920 Let me take you through it a bit.

00:02:55.620 According to a January analysis by Gallup, 51% of health care workers and first responders polled in December were unconvinced of the merits of getting vaccinated,

00:03:06.380 even if the vaccine was free, available, FDA approved, and 90% effective, unquote.

00:03:14.240 Gallup found these results especially concerning since those at highest risk of exposure to COVID-19,

00:03:19.280 the professionals required to meet America's health, safety, and critical economic needs,

00:03:23.340 whom the National Academies of Engineering, Science, and Medicine divine as Tier 1A workers,

00:03:29.660 were the likeliest to refuse vaccination, 34%.

00:03:33.380 And like I say, Larry links to the proof.

00:03:38.220 So if you click on that link, you get the Gallup website itself.

00:03:42.540 Here's their story.

00:03:43.900 Frontline workers no keener than others to get vaccine.

00:03:47.280 Isn't that interesting?

00:03:48.560 I sure thought it was.

00:03:49.900 In some places, the number of frontline workers who won't get the jab is 50%.

00:03:54.760 The frontline workers proved to be as defiant as Gallup's survey of their intentions anticipated.

00:04:04.420 I'm just reading here.

00:04:06.420 In California, over half of Tehama County's hospital workers at St. Elizabeth Community Hospital,

00:04:11.540 an estimated 50% of frontline workers in Riverside County and 20% to 40% in L.A. County refused the vaccine,

00:04:20.040 according to a report in the L.A. Times.

00:04:22.280 And again, Larry's got the links.

00:04:24.780 Here's the link that you click for the story in the L.A. Times.

00:04:28.980 Some healthcare workers refuse to take COVID-19 vaccine, even with priority access.

00:04:33.780 Let me read a little bit from the underlying story.

00:04:36.620 They are frontline workers with top priority access to the COVID-19 vaccine,

00:04:40.180 but they are refusing to take it.

00:04:42.040 At St. Elizabeth Community Hospital in Tehama County,

00:04:44.800 fewer than half of the 700 hospital workers eligible for the vaccine

00:04:48.240 were willing to take the shot when it was first offered.

00:04:51.240 At Providence Holy Cross Medical Center in Mission Hills,

00:04:55.280 one in five frontline nurses and doctors have declined the shot.

00:04:59.280 Roughly 20% to 40% of L.A. County's frontline workers who were offered the vaccine did the same,

00:05:03.900 according to county public health officials.

00:05:06.280 So many frontline workers in Riverside County have refused the vaccine,

00:05:11.840 an estimated 50% that hospital and public officials met to strategize how best to distribute the unused doses,

00:05:20.220 Public Health Director Kim Saruwatari said.

00:05:23.640 So what does it say about a pandemic when you can't even give away the vaccine?

00:05:30.440 Even to people who are the most educated about healthcare, I think,

00:05:34.260 and who would theoretically be at the highest risk of getting infected, I think.

00:05:38.940 It suggests to me that they simply don't believe the hype.

00:05:41.400 And they're as close to health experts as anyone is.

00:05:44.840 In fact, if you're a nurse or a doctor who actually deals with actual COVID cases every day,

00:05:50.280 you probably know more about the reality of the virus than some bureaucrat or politician,

00:05:54.460 which is what a public health officer like Teresa Tam is. 1.00

00:05:58.380 Larry gives a bunch more examples.

00:06:00.000 It's very widespread.

00:06:00.640 In Georgia, according to an estimate in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution,

00:06:06.760 only 30% of healthcare workers have been inoculated.

00:06:09.800 In Ohio, Governor Mike DeWine reported that 60% of nursing home workers refused the vaccine.

00:06:18.560 In Texas, the Texas Tribune reported in February that home health and assisted living agencies

00:06:23.080 may not be able to service their clients because so many caregivers are refusing to be vaccinated.

00:06:27.520 A CDC survey of skilled nursing facilities published in early February

00:06:32.640 found that fewer than 40% of staff took at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.

00:06:38.220 Those are all linked, those sources.

00:06:41.260 Here's one just for proof.

00:06:43.260 This is a newspaper in Columbus.

00:06:49.200 DeWine says 60% of nursing home workers not electing to get the vaccine.

00:06:53.660 Now, you could say, that's a scandal.

00:06:56.160 Oh, force them, right?

00:06:58.280 I mean, those nursing homes, those seniors' homes, they're the most dangerous places. 0.99

00:07:02.240 And I think they are for people who are over 80,

00:07:06.120 who have two, three, four underlying serious medical conditions.

00:07:10.760 Yeah, I think that's what the stats show.

00:07:13.060 But what about for young, healthy staff?

00:07:15.940 It's not dangerous at all, really.

00:07:18.320 And if you say that nursing staff should get the jab to protect their patients,

00:07:21.900 I hear you, that seems to make common sense to me.

00:07:24.620 But public health experts don't actually agree with that because they say you can still carry the virus,

00:07:32.740 even if you yourself are inoculated against it.

00:07:35.300 So what's the point of getting the jab if you're still carrying it and putting,

00:07:41.880 like, I just don't understand the logic?

00:07:44.740 Larry gives more examples from around the world.

00:07:46.500 I won't read through it all, but let me show you this news that's as fresh as yesterday.

00:07:52.940 Headline, Denmark, Norway, Iceland temporarily suspend use of AstraZeneca vaccine.

00:07:58.100 So this is a Reuters story published in Canada by Global News and others.

00:08:02.020 Health authorities in Denmark, Norway, and Iceland on Thursday suspended the use of AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine

00:08:07.500 following reports of the formation of blood clots in some people who had been vaccinated.

00:08:12.500 Austria earlier stopped using a batch of AstraZeneca shots while investigating a death from coagulation disorders

00:08:20.680 and an illness from a pulmonary embolism.

00:08:25.160 Still, the European medicine regulator, EMA, said the vaccine's benefits outweighed its risks

00:08:30.100 and could continue to be administered.

00:08:32.280 Really?

00:08:32.720 If you're 25 years old and healthy, what's the risk to you from the actual virus?

00:08:38.080 It is close to zero.

00:08:40.100 But what's the risk of blood clots and pulmonary embolisms and all those things from the vaccine?

00:08:46.980 A vaccine rushed to market that hasn't been tested in the normal way, hasn't been tested yet on many groups,

00:08:52.320 from young children to pregnant mums. 0.98

00:08:55.140 If you're a pregnant woman who was working as a nurse, would you really take the vaccine?

00:09:01.960 Let me quote some more.

00:09:02.880 Are the problem with spontaneous reports of suspected adverse reactions to a vaccine

00:09:08.040 are the enormous difficulty of distinguishing a causal effect from a coincidence?

00:09:13.120 Stephen Evans, professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine,

00:09:19.840 told Reuters,

00:09:21.020 Yeah, that is a problem.

00:09:22.540 Is it just a coincidence or was it caused by the vaccine?

00:09:26.340 That's a great question to ask.

00:09:30.240 You know, when the rooster crows in the morning, did that cause the sun to rise?

00:09:35.460 Or is it just a coincidence?

00:09:37.860 Or was the cause the other way?

00:09:39.900 Well, we won't know if these blood clots and embolisms are caused by the vaccine or just a coincidence.

00:09:46.140 We won't know for months or years, will we?

00:09:49.620 See, this is normally when a vaccine is still being tested, isn't it?

00:09:53.800 Normally, people who get the jab this early, they sign a waiver and a release

00:09:58.820 and are paid money from the drug companies to be human guinea pigs, aren't they?

00:10:03.900 We're all being the lab rats here.

00:10:06.200 Here's Larry's view.

00:10:08.500 For healthcare workers around the world, their dilemma is who to believe.

00:10:11.780 The government employers and the pharmaceutical companies who insist the vaccine's benefits

00:10:15.960 far outweigh the risks or their own eyes.

00:10:19.620 Many frontline workers see firsthand those who fall sick or die after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine

00:10:25.360 and in the absence of independent analyses, judge for themselves whether the vaccine is implicated.

00:10:30.640 They noted 23 nursing home deaths in Norway and hundreds of hospitalizations in Israel following vaccination.

00:10:37.060 Israel was held up as a great example of vaccine deployment.

00:10:39.720 I mean, you've all heard that, right?

00:10:41.220 Israel's number one in terms of getting the vaccine out there.

00:10:43.580 But did you hear this part of the Israel story?

00:10:46.080 It's from a link in Larry's Epoch Times article.

00:10:49.620 4,500 people diagnosed with COVID after getting first vaccine dose.

00:10:55.940 Health ministry official warns one vaccine dose is not enough to prevent COVID-19 infection

00:11:00.760 as morbidity continues to rise.

00:11:03.240 Hang on.

00:11:03.880 Morbidity, that's a fancy way of getting, I mean, getting sick.

00:11:06.980 So it's rising?

00:11:08.580 I thought they already vaccinated all the seniors, all the middle-aged people,

00:11:12.400 but the morbidity rates are rising?

00:11:15.900 How did that happen?

00:11:17.160 I'll read some more from the story.

00:11:18.160 Dr. L. Rye Price noted that 17% of the severely ill patients who are currently hospitalized

00:11:25.120 are patients who received the first dose of the vaccine before their hospitalization.

00:11:30.180 What?

00:11:31.780 So more than a sixth of all the people in the hospital are from the vaccine?

00:11:36.720 That is not a small number.

00:11:39.480 Here's the news from Europe where they're using the AstraZeneca vaccine that Trudeau likes so much.

00:11:44.300 Frontline workers also suffer from vaccinations themselves, as Reuters reported in February in an article entitled,

00:11:51.440 AstraZeneca vaccine faces resistance in Europe after health workers suffer side effects.

00:11:55.880 The adverse effects hitting health care workers have unexpectedly left large numbers unable to work,

00:12:04.340 forcing hospitals to scramble to maintain services.

00:12:08.900 In France, the safety agency advised hospitals to stagger the inoculation of team members to avoid disabling team functions.

00:12:17.060 Do you understand that?

00:12:18.700 So the vaccine, when every hospital nurse and other staffer takes it, it wipes out so many of the staff that it disrupts hospitals when all the nurses take it at the same time.

00:12:29.880 Wall Street Journal reports that to avoid getting vaccinated, half of the health professionals scheduled in the German state of Saarland failed to show up for their appointment.

00:12:40.600 That's Larry's quote.

00:12:42.060 Here's the primary source.

00:12:43.340 Here's the Wall Street Journal story that Larry links to.

00:12:46.020 You can read it for yourself.

00:12:48.460 These doctors want to pick their COVID-19 vaccine, fearing reactions lower efficacy.

00:12:54.880 EU leaders pressured AstraZeneca to deliver more doses of its vaccine, but now find some people balk at the shot.

00:13:01.780 Let me quote a little bit.

00:13:02.520 This is Wall Street Journal, one of the premier newspapers in the world.

00:13:05.540 However, health worker unions in Europe say thousands of their members refused to take one of the three COVID-19 vaccines available in the region because of concerns over efficacy and reports of side effects.

00:13:18.720 The latest setback for the continent's slow vaccine rollout.

00:13:23.500 Organizations representing health professionals across Europe said this week that doctors and nurses shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine developed by AstraZeneca

00:13:31.160 because it was shown to offer less robust protection against COVID-19 than the other two currently authorized in the European Union.

00:13:39.480 They also expressed concern over reports that the AstraZeneca vaccine appeared to cause stronger reactions in recipients.

00:13:46.600 Hospitals said hundreds of health professionals scheduled to get the vaccines hadn't shown up for their appointments in recent days,

00:13:52.660 while many who had got the shot were calling in sick after reporting painful headaches, fever, and other symptoms.

00:13:58.660 Hey, are you hearing about any of this on the CBC or the mainstream media?

00:14:05.880 Thing is, every source that Larry has here, everything I've just read to you, is from the mainstream media itself.

00:14:11.240 Wall Street Journal, huge, reputable.

00:14:13.680 Reuters, other news agencies.

00:14:15.540 Reuters is one of the largest news agencies in the world, one of the oldest.

00:14:18.860 These are not partisan or right-wing or dissident news sources here.

00:14:22.480 They're not kooky reporters.

00:14:24.340 This is real news.

00:14:26.120 So why are we hearing about it in the Canadian mainstream media?

00:14:30.000 Why isn't the CBC talking about this?

00:14:32.680 Well, actually, the scariest part of Larry's column isn't the health stats.

00:14:37.640 It's the propaganda plan.

00:14:39.260 Look at this.

00:14:42.080 All urge media and social media to be more vigilant in policing negative vaccination news.

00:14:47.060 In offering pointers on how to debunk critics, the Columbia Journalism Review on March 5th told media companies that

00:14:52.940 the first rule of reporting on mis- and disinformation is don't talk about the mis- or disinformation

00:14:58.480 and suggest that they consider the practice of pre-bunking, that is, actively debunking or anticipating public questions and concerns

00:15:06.860 rather than only reacting once false narratives have been popularized.

00:15:10.320 Although studies show that such assurances in public education campaigns, also known as

00:15:15.860 propaganda, can reduce vaccine hesitancy, Gallup finds their effect is marginal.

00:15:21.000 Quote, the limited COVID-19 vaccine acceptance rates among all occupation groups show little

00:15:26.240 movement since November 2020.

00:15:28.180 So Larry's quoting from the Columbia Journalism Review, which is considered the leading journalism

00:15:33.420 authority for American mainstream media.

00:15:36.120 It's from Columbia University in New York.

00:15:40.440 Here's that story.

00:15:41.900 They have a list of points, 10 points, not about how to report the news on the vaccines,

00:15:49.040 how to get the facts, how to go get the news, the who, what, why, where, when, you know,

00:15:52.980 but about how to spin, how to spread the ideology, despite the facts, in the face of the facts.

00:16:00.500 It's really incredible.

00:16:01.660 These are 10 tips for how to spin the public, not 10 tips for how to report the news.

00:16:07.260 I'll just read a few of them that I just picked out.

00:16:10.300 It's critical to address the unfounded public concern that the speedy development of COVID

00:16:15.640 vaccines means they're not safe.

00:16:17.780 So you've just assumed they're safe and you've assumed that there's no well-founded public concern.

00:16:23.620 You've just assumed that.

00:16:24.760 Varying vaccine effectiveness data is causing mistrust.

00:16:31.300 If that's true, how is that unfair?

00:16:34.600 How is that a problem?

00:16:35.760 Why must you debunk that?

00:16:39.540 Overemphasizing the rare instances of adverse reaction undermines trust.

00:16:44.700 Well, is your job to prop up trust in the establishment or to get to the truth?

00:16:49.740 And are you saying that these adverse reactions are minimal?

00:16:54.580 Here's another.

00:16:55.880 Vaccine hesitancy is normal and natural. 1.00

00:16:59.180 Well, then why are you fighting against it?

00:17:01.560 Why are you trying to change it?

00:17:04.100 Don't accidentally undersell the vaccine's effectiveness.

00:17:08.540 Sell, undersell.

00:17:10.080 Are you in the selling business here?

00:17:11.720 You got to go out and sell these vaccines.

00:17:13.140 This is a journalism review giving spin doctors.

00:17:16.520 Was this paid for by a pharmaceutical company?

00:17:19.740 Like, was this an ad?

00:17:22.400 That's the kind of thing political parties tell candidates.

00:17:24.420 That's like PR school.

00:17:25.880 That's what corporate PR executives tell CEOs.

00:17:29.000 Isn't the rule for actual reporters just, you know, follow the facts wherever they lead?

00:17:35.940 Well, apparently not during a pandemic.

00:17:37.640 Not when there's this much money to be made.

00:17:39.860 Not when there's this much power to be had.

00:17:42.600 Great article by Larry.

00:17:43.620 And I'm completely unsurprised that the only newspaper in Canada that would publish it is the Epoch Times.

00:17:51.260 Stay with us for more.

00:17:52.140 And in the week that the woman, Sarah Everard, was abducted and we suppose killed because remains have been found in a woodland in Kent,

00:18:15.960 I would argue that at the next opportunity for any bill that's appropriate, I might actually put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6pm, which I feel would make women a lot safer.

00:18:29.700 And discrimination of all kinds would be lessened.

00:18:33.800 Well, there you have it.

00:18:34.520 A speech from the floor of the Palace of Westminster, the British Parliament.

00:18:39.240 A call for a curfew against men.

00:18:43.160 I don't know if she was serious about it.

00:18:45.580 It was, of course, in reaction to a terrible crime committed against a woman.

00:18:50.460 And thus, the proposed penalty is a group punishment against all men.

00:18:55.620 Joining us now to talk about this and other diminutions of civil liberties is our friend Calvin Robinson, a pundit, activist, and a member of a senior fellow of the Policy Exchange in the UK.

00:19:07.660 Calvin, great to see you again.

00:19:09.560 What do you make of that speech?

00:19:11.380 It's really caught fire, that idea.

00:19:13.820 I don't know if it was made in jest or as a dramatic example, but I can't believe it.

00:19:22.040 That idea is taking hold.

00:19:23.260 First of all, thank you for inviting me on again, Ezra.

00:19:26.520 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:19:27.600 Thank you.

00:19:27.920 How outrageous was that?

00:19:30.140 In the mother of parliaments, we have a peer, a baroness, no less, standing up and suggesting the idea that all men should be locked away after 6pm.

00:19:39.400 Now, I don't for one minute think she was serious.

00:19:41.460 I can't believe that she would say something like that and be serious.

00:19:44.260 I believe she's trying to make a point.

00:19:45.620 But the fact that she could stand in our Houses of Parliament and make that suggestion just shows how far we've come.

00:19:52.220 Because no one challenged her.

00:19:53.420 No one laughed.

00:19:54.340 No one booed her.

00:19:55.300 No one called her out.

00:19:56.560 It just became another lord saying another thing.

00:20:00.160 And that is because we've just spent the past year locked away in our homes.

00:20:03.940 It's become second nature now.

00:20:05.520 No one had heard of locking down a Western society, in fact, any society, until China did it. 0.99

00:20:12.620 And we followed the Communist Party of China in their policies, as if that's ever a good idea. 0.99

00:20:17.680 It's absolutely bonkers that we've come to this authoritarian, draconian point in time where it's almost feasible for a Western state, a democracy, to lock away half of its population.

00:20:28.980 And then she said it's in the name of cutting down on discrimination.

00:20:32.120 You're going to discriminate against half the population in order to prevent discrimination.

00:20:36.540 Yeah.

00:20:36.780 Something's not right.

00:20:37.980 Yeah.

00:20:38.220 I think you're right that a year of conditioning people in the UK that they can be locked in their homes turned it from an absurd jest.

00:20:47.000 I don't, I'm with you.

00:20:48.280 I don't think she actually truly meant it.

00:20:51.320 I think she was speaking poetically or dramatically or out of exasperation.

00:20:57.060 But you lock down essentially, essentially have a curfew in a whole country for a year.

00:21:03.180 All of a sudden, the Overton window has shifted.

00:21:06.120 Let me play for you a clip from the, I think he's the prime minister of Wales, who's a Labour Party politician.

00:21:12.960 So like Scotland, they have sort of a devolved parliament, if I understand it correctly.

00:21:16.620 And he later walked this back, but at least for a while, it looks like he was seriously considering.

00:21:25.940 Here, I'll let the viewers judge for themselves.

00:21:27.620 Take a look.

00:21:28.340 Some people have said sometimes that if there were an area particularly where there were concerns of women maybe being assaulted or feeling particularly scared,

00:21:39.600 that there should be a curfew on men for a period of time.

00:21:43.600 Is that something that you would consider?

00:21:49.540 It wouldn't be on the top of the list of things that we would consider because it would be at the very best a temporary intervention.

00:21:57.920 But you would, I'm sorry, to be clear, you say you wouldn't, it's not the top of your list.

00:22:02.760 I can only take it from that, that you could not rule out that being potentially something that you would do.

00:22:09.740 If there were a crisis and you needed to take dramatic action that allowed that crisis to be drawn down,

00:22:21.260 then of course you'd be prepared to consider all measures that would make a difference.

00:22:25.100 But the sort of measure, the curfew measure that you've described, it could only ever be a temporary answer and therefore it's not at the top of our list.

00:22:34.440 There are other things that we can do and should do and will work hard with our third sector organizations or local authorities in Wales.

00:22:42.980 As I say, people need to be safe and to feel safe.

00:22:47.060 There you have it, the First Minister of Wales saying he would, in fact, consider it if it was a crisis.

00:22:54.200 Whether, I mean, like I say, he later walked that back a bit.

00:22:56.840 But look, this was treated as a serious subject.

00:23:00.860 And all over social media, people are deadly serious about it.

00:23:04.820 I don't think it's actually going to happen, Calvin, but it shows not only identity politics,

00:23:10.880 but just a total lack of civil liberties.

00:23:13.040 That's what I think.

00:23:13.800 I think Wales has been the worst, or one of the worst, the whole United Kingdom has been terrible in this, actually.

00:23:22.340 But Wales in particular, because when we closed our shops for lockdowns, Wales went a step further.

00:23:27.840 And the essential shops that we allowed to remain open, such as supermarkets, they had non-essential items barred off.

00:23:34.220 So you go in there and buy fruit, you couldn't buy pen and paper, for example.

00:23:36.980 They went to the minutiae level of controlling people's lives.

00:23:40.700 And I think that's very terrifying, that when a government is so happy and so comfortable doing that, it's very worrying for me.

00:23:46.760 And in Scotland, they've taken measures too far as well.

00:23:49.300 This is why devolution does not work.

00:23:50.980 The United Kingdom is one kingdom, one country, one nation.

00:23:55.440 And we should be ruled from Westminster.

00:23:57.680 We shouldn't have all these devolved parliaments making absolutely silly decisions on their own.

00:24:01.960 Well, let me ask you this.

00:24:03.880 I understand the First Minister of Wales is a Labour politician.

00:24:07.380 I understand the peer, the member of the House of Lords, I think she's also Labour.

00:24:12.460 Correct me if I'm wrong there.

00:24:14.020 She was Green.

00:24:14.860 Pardon me?

00:24:16.160 She's a Green Party.

00:24:16.940 Green Party.

00:24:17.420 Thank you for the correction.

00:24:18.600 So these are parties of the left.

00:24:20.660 Has the Conservative Party, has the party of Boris Johnson, have they pushed back on this?

00:24:27.780 I mean, even just in a dismissive manner, has anyone said this is nuts?

00:24:35.080 Not as far as I've seen yet.

00:24:36.860 And that's, again, concerning.

00:24:39.720 In England, we obviously have a Conservative government with an 80-strong majority,

00:24:43.920 so they can push through whatever regulations and legislation they like.

00:24:47.380 But we haven't seen much anti-lockdown sentiment coming from our party, coming from the right.

00:24:54.020 We've seen a lot of, you know, all of these measures have been brought in by the Conservative government, actually.

00:24:58.220 And the left have been saying, we want more.

00:25:00.160 We want to push further.

00:25:00.920 So there's no opposition.

00:25:02.020 There is no party out there saying, actually, stop.

00:25:04.360 We don't want our citizens to be locked down, our subjects of the United Kingdom to be locked away and their liberties taken away.

00:25:10.880 Where is that coming from?

00:25:11.960 Which is why it's good to see small parties popping up, like Reclaim and like Reform and like the SDP,

00:25:17.220 to say to the larger parties, you know what, you need to stand up for the people of this country that deserve the right to earn a livelihood,

00:25:24.800 deserve a right to have meaning in their lives, and deserve a right to decide who they welcome into their own homes.

00:25:30.600 Because an Englishman's home is his castle. 0.89

00:25:32.880 That's what this nation was founded on, the principle of freedom of association and freedom of expression.

00:25:37.140 And they're all being washed away by what should be a centre-right government.

00:25:41.280 I want to shift to another one of the countries in the UK, Scotland, which has an SNP government,

00:25:49.540 which I understand is really a party of the left.

00:25:52.580 They just passed a hate speech law, which I did a video on a year ago, 200,000 views, which shocked me.

00:26:00.100 I thought it was an obscure story.

00:26:01.320 A lot of people were worried about it.

00:26:03.080 A lot of the views were from Scotland.

00:26:06.120 The justice minister there is a real crusading censor, in my view.

00:26:10.260 I want to play for you a clip of this justice minister, because I find it so ironic.

00:26:17.980 Then we'll come right back.

00:26:19.900 He's saying that he feels like Scotland is institutionally racist, and the way he denounces it is quite

00:26:29.040 something.

00:26:30.040 And then let's watch the clip.

00:26:31.300 I'll come back, and I'll ask you the question.

00:26:33.460 Would his rant here be caught by his own anti-hate law?

00:26:39.440 Take a look at this.

00:26:40.260 When the most senior positions in Scotland are filled almost exclusively by those who

00:26:46.220 are white.

00:26:46.940 Take my portfolio alone.

00:26:49.480 The Lord President, white.

00:26:51.320 The Lord Justice Clark, white.

00:26:53.560 Every High Court judge, white. 0.87

00:26:55.820 The Lord Advocate, white.

00:26:57.740 The Solicitor General, white.

00:26:59.420 The Chief Constable, white.

00:27:01.160 Every Deputy Chief Constable, white.

00:27:03.520 Every Assistant Chief Constable, white.

00:27:05.560 The Head of the Law Society, white. 0.92

00:27:07.720 The Head of the Faculty of Advocates, white. 0.56

00:27:10.340 Every Prison Governor, white. 0.58

00:27:13.740 And not just Justice.

00:27:15.260 The Chief Medical Officer, white.

00:27:16.760 The Chief Nursing Officer, white.

00:27:18.540 The Chief Veterinary Officer, white.

00:27:20.720 The Chief Social Work Advisor, white.

00:27:23.000 Almost every trade union in this country headed by people who are white.

00:27:28.080 In the Scottish Government, every Director General is white.

00:27:31.740 Every chair of every public body is white. 0.90

00:27:35.600 Kevin, I've got to tell you, he obviously spent a lot of time researching and checking

00:27:41.100 people's race.

00:27:42.200 I find that a little bit creepy.

00:27:44.720 I mean, first of all, Scotland is, you know, 95% plus ethnically Scottish.

00:27:48.840 So it's not really surprising that a place that's more than 95% white, you're going to

00:27:54.100 have people in leadership who are white.

00:27:56.360 But what I find troubling there is that he seeks to identify people and judge people and

00:28:01.980 think the most interesting thing about them is their skin color rather than the content

00:28:06.320 of their character.

00:28:07.900 And yet this is the fella who now put through a hate speech law.

00:28:11.740 Now, I found that, I don't know if hateful is the right word, but my God, he's obsessed

00:28:17.460 with dividing us based on race.

00:28:20.120 That's what I got from that little rant.

00:28:23.120 Absolutely.

00:28:23.700 Hamza Youssef is one of the most divisive, toxic politicians in this country.

00:28:27.100 Now, let me be clear.

00:28:28.220 Scotland is absolutely beautiful.

00:28:29.900 It's a fantastic place.

00:28:31.120 I was there not too long ago.

00:28:32.120 I love it.

00:28:32.720 It's amazing.

00:28:33.740 It's very diverse, very tolerant and very inclusive.

00:28:36.080 It just so happens to be predominantly white, as he would say.

00:28:39.980 But the way he describes whiteness, the way he talks about it, to me, so I've always thought,

00:28:46.820 what is hate speech?

00:28:47.420 I don't understand it.

00:28:48.120 But listening to his video, watching his video, I understand it.

00:28:50.460 That is hatred right there.

00:28:51.520 The way he talks about white people, the way he tries to divide society into white and non-white, 0.85

00:28:56.480 it doesn't make sense.

00:28:57.700 If he hates Scotland so much, why is he living there?

00:28:59.700 That's what I don't understand about this thing.

00:29:00.900 But the whole hate crime bill is anti-liberty.

00:29:04.500 It's anti-freedom.

00:29:05.580 It's very, very worrying.

00:29:06.940 It's probably the most worrying piece of legislation that I've seen in a long time, because it essentially

00:29:11.600 says you can be arrested for saying or thinking the wrong thing in your own home.

00:29:17.220 If someone takes offense to something you've said in your house, they can tell the police

00:29:20.960 and you can get arrested for it.

00:29:22.580 How is that appropriate in the 21st century?

00:29:25.880 It's absolutely bonkers.

00:29:27.120 I know the Scottish Police Association has said they don't want this law because it turns

00:29:33.600 them into Orwellian police.

00:29:35.840 They say, they put out public statements saying it will destroy their support amongst the community.

00:29:40.960 I believe the police need the consent of the people.

00:29:44.340 That's why I think these lockdown enforcements are so damaging to the police.

00:29:48.740 The Scottish police said, please do not make us enforce a law about opinions and views and

00:29:55.020 emotions.

00:29:55.520 And that's their new job, isn't it?

00:29:58.240 Because these are crimes, I think, right?

00:30:00.140 Well, this is it.

00:30:01.800 In this country, we used to have freedom of speech, which means you could say what you

00:30:04.700 like as long as you're not inciting violence.

00:30:06.540 It's a very clear line.

00:30:07.980 As long as you're not causing people to physically harm another person, you can say what you like.

00:30:11.940 We have a place in Hyde Park called Speaker's Corner, where people go to rant and just,

00:30:16.560 you know, say the world's coming to an end or say whatever they want to say.

00:30:18.900 People can stand around and listen.

00:30:20.420 It's a very British thing.

00:30:21.620 But it's being eroded because people are taking offense.

00:30:25.240 There's nothing wrong with being offended.

00:30:26.960 We are living in a free country where we can choose to take offense at things.

00:30:31.100 I took offense at what Hamza Yusuf said right there.

00:30:33.240 I'm not going to call the police and tell them, oh, he offended me to the point that I

00:30:36.520 need him arrested.

00:30:37.540 We need to come back to a place of saying, actually, if people say something I don't

00:30:40.900 believe in or agree with, I can challenge them.

00:30:43.020 I can give them my own views.

00:30:44.140 Or I can walk away and not listen.

00:30:45.740 We don't need to shut down people for not saying what we want them to say.

00:30:49.800 It's very dangerous.

00:30:50.500 It's very, very worrying.

00:30:51.800 Well, I'm glad you're fighting the good fight there.

00:30:53.740 And I do see popping up in the UK grassroots movements to strengthen freedom of speech.

00:31:00.360 You mentioned a couple of the new parties, the Reform Party, the Reclaim Party with Lawrence

00:31:03.900 Fox.

00:31:04.580 So there is a, you know, counter-revolution, so to speak.

00:31:08.660 There are people who believe in freedom.

00:31:10.280 I find that hopeful, Toby Young and his anti-lockdown and free speech union groups.

00:31:14.680 So there is a free speech wing to the country.

00:31:18.400 And I wish you great strength.

00:31:19.600 I know you're part of it.

00:31:20.680 Calvin Robinson, pleasure as always.

00:31:22.280 Thanks for taking the time with us.

00:31:24.420 Anytime.

00:31:24.980 Thank you again.

00:31:25.680 All right.

00:31:25.980 There you have it.

00:31:26.460 Calvin Robinson.

00:31:27.380 You can follow him on Twitter.

00:31:28.880 Stay with us.

00:31:29.700 More ahead.

00:31:41.780 Hey, welcome back on my show last night.

00:31:43.360 Tom writes, O'Toole has convinced me not to support the Conservative Party in any way

00:31:48.860 anymore.

00:31:49.720 What's the use of liberal light?

00:31:52.320 Yeah, you know, I think there's two things at play.

00:31:54.920 I think, first of all, this Alain Reyes or whatever his name is, I've never seen him

00:32:00.040 fight for freedom or for free speech.

00:32:02.240 I think his job is to sort of telegraph to the media that, oh yeah, however much you hate

00:32:08.960 Conservatives, we at the Conservative Party hate them more.

00:32:12.200 So don't blame us.

00:32:13.620 I think his full-time job is to appease the wokesters, the cancel critics, the media.

00:32:19.980 So it's worse than nothing.

00:32:23.540 Just staying silent would be bad enough in the era of censorship.

00:32:27.620 But I actually think that O'Toole and the rest of his MPs, they think they have to be

00:32:32.620 more pure than the Puritans. 0.94

00:32:34.920 They have to be the last, you know, like in the old Soviet Union where someone would see 0.98

00:32:40.160 who stopped applauding Stalin.

00:32:41.780 They would make a note.

00:32:42.460 Who stopped applauding first?

00:32:44.120 It was a test of your loyalty.

00:32:48.020 It would be bad enough for the Conservatives to be silent, but they want to be the ones

00:32:52.240 who are applauding right to the end just to show how politically correct they are.

00:32:56.160 It's really gross.

00:32:57.140 Jay writes, Epoch Times is one of the best news sources.

00:32:59.860 It has been accurate, non-biased, and gives a world overview, not just North American news.

00:33:03.840 I agree.

00:33:04.560 And that's why I do my whole monologue on Larry's column today.

00:33:08.260 Bill writes, Ezra and the Rebel continue to spiral down to the National Telegraph level of

00:33:13.200 journalism.

00:33:13.620 I will mention only the first sentence.

00:33:15.800 I don't really know what Aaron O'Toole stands for.

00:33:17.920 He claims he's against the carbon tax, but he says he's for net zero emissions.

00:33:21.380 Levant obviously has no idea what he's talking about.

00:33:24.160 The current CPC platform hasn't really changed from the days under Harper.

00:33:28.260 The CPC then and now never, ever supported carbon taxes, yet they did and do support cleaner

00:33:33.760 and reduced emissions.

00:33:35.260 I could go on.

00:33:36.120 The entire article is one stinking bundle of crap.

00:33:40.720 But how do you really feel?

00:33:44.500 Come on.

00:33:45.260 Don't be shy.

00:33:45.840 Don't hold back.

00:33:46.640 Listen, first of all, thanks for writing.

00:33:47.940 I really appreciate it, actually.

00:33:49.280 I don't think that Aaron O'Toole has the courage to actually say, I am for a carbon tax.

00:33:58.800 I don't think he will say those words because I think he knows that would be drilling a huge

00:34:03.140 hole in the bottom of his canoe.

00:34:04.220 But I think what Aaron O'Toole will say is, I'm for other things that are tantamount to

00:34:10.160 a carbon tax.

00:34:11.060 I'm for a cap and trade.

00:34:12.660 I'm for a hard cap on emissions.

00:34:15.920 I'm for phasing out this and that.

00:34:18.600 And I think you cannot get to the UN global warming goals without crushing the oil and

00:34:25.340 gas industry.

00:34:26.480 Carbon tax is just the most obvious way that the liberals went for.

00:34:29.760 I wish you were right.

00:34:32.540 I wish that Aaron O'Toole stood for something.

00:34:36.620 And frankly, I don't think your letter convinces me otherwise.

00:34:40.480 Saying that Stephen Harper gave lip service to global warming, I think there's some truth

00:34:44.660 to it.

00:34:45.260 There's some truth to it.

00:34:46.600 But I think that that is not a rebuttal to my charge that Aaron O'Toole stands for nothing

00:34:52.780 other than cancel culture.

00:34:56.200 That's the show for today.

00:34:57.660 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.

00:35:00.920 Good night.

00:35:01.300 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:03.020 Keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 13, 2021

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