Red Ice TV - May 12, 2023


King Leopold's “Genocidal” Rule Over Belgian Congo Is A Hoax


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

144.44589

Word Count

7,741

Sentence Count

402

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

56


Summary

King Leopold II of the Belgians was the richest man in Africa at the turn of the 19th century, but he was also responsible for the deaths of millions of his own subjects. Was he a monster? Or was he a hero?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 these kinds of things lies at the foundation of how we got here uh they have turned our history
00:00:05.120 against us they've lied about it they've obfuscated as i said before uh exaggerated propagandized us
00:00:10.160 into thinking that we somehow or even if we directly haven't done it this was like allowed
00:00:15.840 within european civilization and therefore we owe all these other people something we must repay or
00:00:22.560 or think of this one but of course historically we know uh that what we did uh is not worse than
00:00:29.200 any other group did and all of them did it too in fact and some things we were better at and some
00:00:33.040 things we were worse at uh again just like any other group right so i want to talk about the
00:00:37.440 congo king leopold because it was a great piece in the uh the american conservative uh about
00:00:44.080 uh a new book coming out called king hochchild's hoax which is written about king leopold's ghost
00:00:54.080 is that the title by by this so-called uh scholar and historian adam hock child hock hock child
00:01:02.560 but first i want to preface it by playing this trailer because i remember this from years and
00:01:06.080 years ago when you know we weren't covering these types of topics on red eyes we were doing some other
00:01:12.720 things but we came across this uh documentary right uh white king red rubber black death and this is
00:01:22.400 a piece that was going to run on belgian television at the time this is like i forget when this is 2006
00:01:29.680 seven maybe something like it could have been earlier maybe it was from 2003 but i came across it at that
00:01:34.000 point oh look at what they're trying to you know cover they didn't show it in belgium and oh they're
00:01:39.360 trying to cover this up and stuff but of course in hindsight we realize one of the reasons is
00:01:43.120 because it's shoddy academic work and it's a bunch of uh communist anti-white gobbledygook and i'm not a
00:01:49.360 huge fan always of of uh nobility royalty especially these days back then i think they were far more
00:01:57.440 honest and concerned with the subjects that they were supposed to represent uh king leopold i think
00:02:02.480 he's a cousin to queen victoria if i remember that correctly but let's check out this trailer here
00:02:08.080 to to see the framing what the accusations are like how belgium bad eu bad europeans bad white
00:02:15.040 people bad royalty bad right that's the whole framing of this uh so this is from that documentary
00:02:20.240 and then we'll look at the piece uh that american conservative wrote to to debunk some of these claims
00:02:26.880 here we go when a series of missionary photographs arrived in england in the late 19th century they
00:02:40.880 caused outrage the mutilations had been strategically photographed against white for maximum impact
00:02:49.360 the children came from the congo but the man accused of their suffering was white european and royal
00:03:00.240 white european
00:03:06.400 for almost a hundred years evidence has lain dormant of one of the greatest mass murders
00:03:12.560 millions of africans died in one man's quest for wealth and glory
00:03:17.360 bullshit until adolf hitler arrived on the scene the european standard for cruelty of course so here
00:03:23.280 let me pause there correlation made right it's it's oh my god it's the worst until hitter but then we
00:03:29.360 can fall back on this again right every single time this is the framing leopold ii king of the belgians
00:03:36.880 was the personal owner of one million square miles of central africa and king sovereign of 20 million africans
00:03:46.640 in the 1880s and 90s the world outside africa wanted rubber for its new bicycle and car industries
00:03:58.400 and leopold's congo free state had the world's largest supply of wild rubber
00:04:03.920 the king had struck gold black gold
00:04:14.000 he was determined to get as much rubber to europe as he could and as fast as he could
00:04:18.480 the rubber in this district has cost hundreds of lives and the scenes i have witnessed while unable
00:04:26.640 to help the oppressed have been almost enough to make me wish that i were dead
00:04:30.800 over a period of 20 years leopold turned the congo into a vast labor camp 80 times the size of belgium
00:04:41.360 in the process making himself into one of the richest men in the world
00:04:46.160 as the number of deaths grew so did his profits this rubber traffic is steeped in blood
00:04:55.600 and were the natives to rise and sweep every white person on the upper congo into eternity
00:05:01.760 there would still be left a fearful balance to their credit
00:05:04.560 but the longer the king stayed in the congo the greater the evidence against him missionaries
00:05:15.920 travelers and the victims all added to the clamor for the king to be stopped
00:05:21.120 Qué i will see
00:05:41.920 The
00:05:47.760 I'm not a man.
00:05:54.780 I'm not a man.
00:05:56.620 I'm a man.
00:06:07.080 Astonishingly, for the time, there were calls for Leopold
00:06:10.480 to be hanged at the new International Court of Justice in The Hague.
00:06:14.560 If there were such thing as criminal prosecutions in international affairs,
00:06:21.720 then assuredly a true bill would be found against a sovereign
00:06:25.060 who obtained not a paltry sum of money,
00:06:28.380 but a whole empire by false pretenses.
00:06:34.740 Instead of being hanged, Leopold was reinvented
00:06:38.920 as a great humanitarian king, a great civilizer.
00:06:44.560 He was reinvented.
00:06:47.440 Yeah, so that's the lie, right?
00:06:49.020 Not that they lied and intentionally exaggerated this, right?
00:06:53.960 As we'll get into now here.
00:06:56.480 But anyways, this is the framing.
00:06:58.280 And look, maybe this documentary doesn't only use Adam Hochschild's research, right?
00:07:05.560 There's probably others out there.
00:07:07.880 But this is, of course, common with anti-whites, culture Marxists, anti-Westerners,
00:07:13.620 and these kinds of things.
00:07:14.300 They always have to deconstruct and say,
00:07:15.940 this is somehow uniquely evil what they did.
00:07:18.880 They leave out things.
00:07:20.200 They cut things out, as we'll see.
00:07:22.120 And they basically just lie.
00:07:23.540 But hang on to your pantaloons, ladies,
00:07:27.360 because now we're going to get the film version soon.
00:07:30.720 And as the article talks about here in a little bit,
00:07:33.620 once that happens, all chances are out the window
00:07:37.540 to try to restore or set the record straight
00:07:41.500 about these kinds of things, right?
00:07:42.700 Ben Affleck to direct King Leopold's Ghost
00:07:46.980 about unlikely trio who exposed atrocities in plunder of the Congo.
00:07:53.180 Now, this has been worked on for a few years.
00:07:58.400 There's some straining,
00:07:59.900 the strained relationship with the production, stuff like that.
00:08:02.680 Hopefully it never comes out.
00:08:04.560 But just be aware of this, that that's where this is going.
00:08:07.380 That's why this is also a very important discussion
00:08:10.480 to have to kind of get ahead of the curve
00:08:11.880 and get the arguments straightened out now
00:08:14.680 so when shit's released, you know.
00:08:17.140 Look, it's not that this is a unique thing with King Leopold
00:08:21.480 that I uniquely feel I have to defend him or whatever.
00:08:25.000 Whether there's some bad things, sure.
00:08:26.980 Of course, there's always that.
00:08:28.960 But this absurd cartoonish version
00:08:32.160 that we get through history that is like,
00:08:34.300 well, because he was a white European colonialist, you see,
00:08:38.420 he intentionally had to chop off the hands and feet
00:08:41.400 of as many Africans as possible.
00:08:43.520 Oh, yeah?
00:08:44.120 Is that really what happened?
00:08:45.760 Let's take a look at the breakdown of this here.
00:08:48.300 So here it is.
00:08:49.400 King Hockshild's hoax.
00:08:52.080 And of course, just a little caveat ahead of time here.
00:08:56.240 Here's Adam Hockshild.
00:08:59.580 Maybe that's a better term.
00:09:00.440 There's a fascinating portion here on Wikipedia
00:09:04.020 called the early life section
00:09:07.480 where you can find out a number of things about.
00:09:11.340 And imagine my shock when we look at Adam Hockshild
00:09:15.380 that the very same kind of same consistency here
00:09:19.500 seems to be running through yet another one
00:09:23.520 of these critics and academics and historians.
00:09:27.220 So anyway, an absurdly depicted book
00:09:30.500 on Congolese rubber production
00:09:32.220 is better described as historical fiction.
00:09:36.940 All right, so it's a little longer piece here,
00:09:38.840 but I think it's worth it.
00:09:40.340 For the past 25 years, the idea of the Congo
00:09:42.980 has been closely linked in the Western imagination
00:09:45.320 to the 1998 book King Leopold's Ghost
00:09:48.500 by the American Jewish journalist Adam Hockshild.
00:09:51.960 The book is widely assigned in high schools and colleges,
00:09:55.480 and it regularly tops bestseller lists
00:09:58.280 in colonial African and Western history.
00:10:01.940 Hockshild has become a sort of king of the Congo,
00:10:05.300 or at least of its history.
00:10:07.140 The book is reflectively cited by reputable scholars
00:10:12.080 in their footnotes anytime they wish to assert
00:10:14.900 that it's well known and beyond a shadow of a doubt
00:10:18.240 that sinister men in Europe
00:10:20.460 wrought havoc in Africa over a century ago.
00:10:23.320 Any discussion of the Congo or of European colonialism
00:10:27.200 more generally invariably begins with the question,
00:10:30.940 have you read King Leopold's Ghost?
00:10:34.100 I have read it, and I can declare
00:10:38.080 that it's a vast hoax full of distortions and errors,
00:10:42.620 both numerous and grave,
00:10:44.600 a few of which I will detail in this short essay.
00:10:47.300 Some people might view King Hockshild's hoax,
00:10:50.700 as we might call it,
00:10:51.680 as an empowering fable for modern Africans
00:10:54.120 at the expense of the white man.
00:10:56.680 I don't think he does this.
00:10:58.540 It's the easy way out.
00:11:01.340 The real victims here are, of course, white Europeans,
00:11:04.280 because we're the ones who are being told,
00:11:05.780 we bad, right?
00:11:06.720 We come from this.
00:11:07.780 The only reason your country is successful
00:11:09.340 is the riches of the backs of slaves in Africa.
00:11:11.120 They took everything, you know, that kind of shit, right?
00:11:13.440 We are the intended target
00:11:18.180 for these lies and this propaganda, okay?
00:11:21.340 So you don't have to do this.
00:11:23.280 Are there negative consequences
00:11:24.620 for black African Congolese people too?
00:11:26.940 Sure, okay?
00:11:27.980 Feel free to mention them,
00:11:29.580 but don't try to delude yourself
00:11:30.760 by thinking that it's anything else
00:11:32.300 but an attack on white people,
00:11:34.660 white civilization, etc.
00:11:36.560 You get the point, right?
00:11:37.680 Anyway, that's where this author is going, so be it.
00:11:40.160 But it's debilitating effects on Africa
00:11:42.480 and on the Congo in particular
00:11:44.320 make the opposite more nearly the case.
00:11:47.440 It is a callous and negligent chito,
00:11:50.980 chiotti or whatever that's called,
00:11:52.920 a hippo whip,
00:11:53.820 lash on the backs of all black Africans,
00:11:56.820 narcissistically guilt porn for white liberals
00:12:00.760 at the expense of the African.
00:12:03.520 Again, I disagree a little bit.
00:12:04.900 Is there a self, what's the term,
00:12:07.380 flagellation or what is the term
00:12:08.940 by white liberals about this?
00:12:10.780 Of course, yes, I'm not denying that,
00:12:13.560 but we know why this is being spun in this way, right?
00:12:18.020 The Congolese lawyer Marcel Yabili
00:12:19.920 calls it the greatest falsification in modern history.
00:12:24.140 A compliment of sorts, I suppose.
00:12:27.500 Hochschild's book is a history
00:12:29.300 of the private domain
00:12:30.920 of the Belgian King Leopold II
00:12:33.360 and the Congo River Basin
00:12:34.580 that was founded in 1885
00:12:35.940 and then handed over to the Belgian government
00:12:37.720 in 1908.
00:12:40.260 The book alternates between
00:12:42.260 diabolical accounts of Leopold
00:12:45.320 and hagiographic accounts.
00:12:47.200 I think that's from their perspective
00:12:48.960 or something, right?
00:12:50.400 Hagiographic accounts
00:12:51.360 of three of his critics.
00:12:53.440 One being the British campaigner,
00:12:54.980 E.D. Morrell,
00:12:56.560 the British diplomat,
00:12:57.800 Roger Casimant,
00:12:58.940 and the black American missionary
00:13:00.760 William Henry Shepard.
00:13:02.280 Now, of course,
00:13:02.700 it was also a,
00:13:03.480 as it was,
00:13:04.620 competition over
00:13:06.160 who gets to set up what colony.
00:13:08.380 They were infighting.
00:13:09.240 Of course,
00:13:10.000 one side in Europe
00:13:10.860 would want to demonize the other side
00:13:12.160 and make them look bad.
00:13:13.100 So they will be the,
00:13:14.220 you know,
00:13:14.820 we'll take it,
00:13:15.880 we'll run it right.
00:13:17.680 You know,
00:13:17.820 kind of like China is doing now
00:13:18.840 in Africa, right?
00:13:19.560 The narrative style
00:13:21.160 is dark and conspiratorial
00:13:23.820 from the initial plans
00:13:25.360 for the domain
00:13:26.400 to its final dissolution.
00:13:28.160 All along,
00:13:28.680 Hochschild's aim
00:13:29.680 is to elevate the story
00:13:30.760 into one of the greatest evils
00:13:32.600 ever perpetrated
00:13:33.860 by the West
00:13:35.180 upon the rest.
00:13:36.800 There have been
00:13:37.180 two documentary films
00:13:38.160 about Hochschild's fable,
00:13:40.260 both travesties of art
00:13:41.600 as well as fact,
00:13:42.920 but the worst is yet to come.
00:13:45.100 A dramatized Hollywood version
00:13:46.640 by the American director
00:13:47.620 Ben Affleck
00:13:48.860 and Martin Scorsese
00:13:50.580 co-produced with the singer
00:13:52.520 and activist
00:13:53.200 Harry Belafonte.
00:13:55.100 Is he,
00:13:55.340 didn't he,
00:13:55.820 didn't he die recently?
00:13:57.820 I saw something about his,
00:13:58.640 oh,
00:13:58.860 his tireless civil rights work.
00:14:01.940 I saw some headline
00:14:02.560 about this guy before,
00:14:03.580 so big surprise.
00:14:04.820 Of course,
00:14:05.060 he's going to write
00:14:05.980 and be part of some
00:14:06.660 anti-white shit movie.
00:14:08.640 But anyway,
00:14:09.140 that movie has been
00:14:09.820 in development since 2019.
00:14:12.620 The history of the Congo
00:14:13.500 might have survived
00:14:14.740 one gut punch
00:14:15.860 from California.
00:14:17.120 Hochschild did his research
00:14:18.240 entirely at libraries
00:14:19.200 in the state
00:14:19.720 and teachers at Berkeley.
00:14:22.520 Of course he does.
00:14:23.620 But once Hollywood
00:14:24.520 weighs in on the matter,
00:14:25.780 history as such
00:14:26.720 will be impossible.
00:14:28.120 I think he's right about that.
00:14:29.480 But before that happens,
00:14:30.580 let's set the record straight
00:14:31.860 and end this malicious form
00:14:34.020 of imperial plunder.
00:14:35.960 The first and biggest deceit
00:14:37.240 at the heart of King Leopold's ghost
00:14:38.700 is the attempt to equate
00:14:40.040 Leopold's
00:14:40.880 Atetat Independent
00:14:42.300 du Congo
00:14:43.640 or the EIC for short
00:14:45.680 and that's long
00:14:46.600 been mistranslated
00:14:47.620 as the Congo Free State
00:14:49.700 but that's what it's become
00:14:50.600 known as, right?
00:14:52.060 With Western colonialism.
00:14:54.520 Yet the EIC
00:14:55.160 was a short-term solution
00:14:56.580 to the absence
00:14:57.820 of colonial government
00:14:59.200 in the Congo River Basin.
00:15:00.760 The deal was simple.
00:15:02.040 Leopold was to open
00:15:02.960 the area to trade
00:15:03.860 and eliminate
00:15:04.600 endemic Arabic
00:15:05.700 slave empires
00:15:07.020 and African tribal wars.
00:15:09.620 In return,
00:15:10.160 he hoped to bring glory
00:15:11.940 to the Belgian people
00:15:12.980 for having done
00:15:13.760 what no other
00:15:15.060 European ruler dared.
00:15:16.940 One in three Europeans
00:15:18.020 who traveled to the Congo
00:15:19.020 died,
00:15:20.000 usually of illness.
00:15:21.420 Say what white supremacists
00:15:22.600 we were.
00:15:23.300 The EIC had nothing to do
00:15:24.980 with the Belgian government.
00:15:26.580 To the extent
00:15:27.140 that limited abuses
00:15:28.180 and misrule occurred
00:15:29.200 in some parts
00:15:30.100 of his domain
00:15:30.880 discussed below,
00:15:32.160 this was a direct result
00:15:33.380 of its not being controlled
00:15:35.100 by a European state
00:15:36.180 and no less
00:15:37.380 than Morel insisted.
00:15:39.300 Not quoted by Hawth
00:15:40.140 Child.
00:15:40.660 Let us refrain
00:15:41.620 from referring
00:15:42.260 to the Congo
00:15:42.940 as a Belgian colony.
00:15:44.660 Let us avoid
00:15:45.400 writing of Belgian misrule.
00:15:48.880 In a pattern
00:15:49.620 of misrepresentation
00:15:50.940 that,
00:15:51.240 and this is also like
00:15:52.240 the EU is built
00:15:54.000 on the backs
00:15:54.720 of the,
00:15:55.100 like there's a reason
00:15:56.140 why it's in Belgium,
00:15:58.000 the seat
00:15:58.920 of the European
00:16:00.000 Parliament.
00:16:01.740 Yes,
00:16:01.960 there's some in
00:16:02.400 Strasbourg as well,
00:16:03.680 things like this,
00:16:04.100 but like it's Belgian
00:16:05.660 that's hosting
00:16:06.440 essentially the EU,
00:16:07.200 right?
00:16:08.420 It's a very
00:16:09.240 divided nation
00:16:10.420 between the Flemish North
00:16:11.420 and the rest.
00:16:13.080 There's different languages
00:16:14.300 spoken in the country.
00:16:15.960 It's already perfectly
00:16:17.240 divided in a sense
00:16:18.360 to use it.
00:16:19.640 And the EU
00:16:21.820 does things
00:16:24.080 and takes
00:16:24.820 stances
00:16:25.520 that it does
00:16:27.080 because of
00:16:28.240 the false histories
00:16:30.120 like this.
00:16:31.260 And that's why
00:16:32.040 it's important.
00:16:32.540 In a pattern
00:16:34.640 of misrepresentation
00:16:35.780 that is repeated
00:16:36.520 on other issues,
00:16:37.920 Hoke Charles
00:16:38.560 as first mentions
00:16:39.680 this inconvenient fact
00:16:41.620 and then proceeds
00:16:42.440 by saying the opposite
00:16:43.660 for the entirety
00:16:44.520 of the book.
00:16:45.540 The fiefdom
00:16:46.240 was shared
00:16:47.000 in no way
00:16:47.800 with the Belgian government,
00:16:49.020 so he declares
00:16:49.560 that first,
00:16:50.660 which had no legal
00:16:51.960 authority over Leopold
00:16:53.340 as a ruler
00:16:53.960 of the Congo.
00:16:55.120 He alerts readers,
00:16:56.320 yet not only
00:16:57.900 the subtle,
00:17:00.120 the subtitle,
00:17:01.080 sorry,
00:17:01.200 the subtitle
00:17:01.980 of the book,
00:17:02.760 but laced throughout
00:17:04.000 are constant
00:17:04.960 smears against
00:17:05.980 European colonialism.
00:17:07.500 Imagine my shock, folks.
00:17:09.340 The book shows
00:17:09.980 colonial brutality
00:17:11.380 and the wrongs
00:17:12.640 of colonial rule.
00:17:14.200 Okay, well,
00:17:14.560 now do Israel
00:17:15.300 hoax child,
00:17:18.120 resulting from
00:17:18.700 the logical consequences
00:17:20.020 of the very idea
00:17:21.280 of colonialism.
00:17:23.060 This distortion
00:17:24.280 is not mere
00:17:25.720 technicality,
00:17:26.700 rather,
00:17:27.060 it is the central lie
00:17:28.640 of King Leopold's ghost,
00:17:29.980 the freelance
00:17:30.640 EIC,
00:17:31.700 had at its peak
00:17:32.640 just 1,500
00:17:34.220 administrative officers
00:17:35.280 and about 19,000
00:17:36.880 police and soldiers
00:17:37.760 for an area
00:17:38.420 one-third of the size
00:17:40.060 of the continental
00:17:41.960 United States.
00:17:43.920 As such,
00:17:45.080 it exerted
00:17:45.740 virtually no control
00:17:47.220 over most areas,
00:17:48.480 which were
00:17:48.980 in the hands
00:17:49.580 either of
00:17:50.120 Arab slave traders
00:17:51.760 and African warlords
00:17:54.180 or of native soldiers
00:17:55.920 nominally in the
00:17:57.280 employ of Belgian
00:17:58.220 concession companies
00:17:59.960 without a white man
00:18:01.360 for 100 miles.
00:18:03.140 So here we go again.
00:18:05.080 Shit that Arabs do,
00:18:07.140 African warlords,
00:18:08.520 slave traders,
00:18:09.620 blah, blah, blah,
00:18:10.400 gets blamed
00:18:11.400 on white people.
00:18:12.340 Of course,
00:18:12.700 we gotta take in
00:18:13.640 the Jews' role
00:18:15.600 in the African slave trade,
00:18:16.820 these kinds of things,
00:18:17.560 right?
00:18:18.420 Hochschild's depiction
00:18:19.280 of the EIC
00:18:20.400 as totalitarian
00:18:21.400 is bizarre,
00:18:22.780 as is his claim
00:18:24.380 that Leopold
00:18:25.060 exerted a
00:18:25.800 quote,
00:18:26.120 framework of control
00:18:27.320 across his
00:18:28.300 enormous realm.
00:18:29.740 If only
00:18:30.720 that were true.
00:18:32.960 That is why
00:18:33.640 Congo reformers
00:18:34.760 like Morel,
00:18:35.740 much to the annoyance
00:18:36.740 of Hochschild,
00:18:37.500 advocated either
00:18:38.320 German or British
00:18:39.340 colonialization
00:18:40.520 of the area.
00:18:41.540 You're not doing
00:18:42.340 it right, guys.
00:18:44.300 Okay?
00:18:45.600 And it's a classic
00:18:47.180 example of like,
00:18:48.720 you know,
00:18:51.260 what is the saying?
00:18:54.800 No good deed
00:18:55.960 goes unpunished.
00:18:57.160 That's this, right?
00:18:58.500 Oh, we'll bring
00:18:59.420 civilization to this,
00:19:00.740 but we'll teach them
00:19:01.540 all the wonderful things
00:19:02.720 that we have done
00:19:03.760 and let's build
00:19:05.120 this government
00:19:06.440 and governmental
00:19:07.420 buildings and stuff.
00:19:08.480 I mean,
00:19:08.660 even in the Congo,
00:19:09.960 there's like some
00:19:10.300 incredible buildings
00:19:11.560 still to this day
00:19:12.880 standing.
00:19:14.520 Although dilapidated,
00:19:16.120 there is
00:19:16.900 an echo
00:19:18.680 of a glorious past
00:19:19.960 there of European
00:19:21.040 activity,
00:19:21.620 but that's long gone.
00:19:27.020 Morel's view,
00:19:28.100 according to Hochschild,
00:19:29.680 speaking ex cathedra,
00:19:31.580 which is from
00:19:32.220 authority,
00:19:32.880 essentially,
00:19:33.680 from the hallowed
00:19:34.660 seat of modern
00:19:35.580 California,
00:19:36.440 seems unsurprising
00:19:37.620 to us today
00:19:38.320 and was among
00:19:39.060 his faults
00:19:39.880 and political
00:19:40.660 limitations.
00:19:41.720 Quite the opposite.
00:19:42.800 The moment
00:19:43.380 the Belgians
00:19:44.180 colonized the Congo
00:19:45.140 in 1908,
00:19:46.320 a miraculous
00:19:47.220 improvement
00:19:47.940 was noted
00:19:49.200 on all fronts.
00:19:50.820 Seeking to debunk
00:19:51.680 colonialism,
00:19:52.820 Hochschild's book
00:19:53.700 demonstrates
00:19:54.360 the opposite.
00:19:55.840 This is the first
00:19:56.460 and biggest lie
00:19:57.380 at the heart
00:19:58.080 of King Leopold's ghost.
00:19:59.360 The second,
00:20:00.040 more visibly,
00:20:01.240 untruth
00:20:01.760 is the claim
00:20:02.620 that for 23 years
00:20:04.340 the EIC
00:20:04.900 officially
00:20:05.480 throughout the territory
00:20:06.660 sponsored violent
00:20:07.820 actions such as
00:20:08.960 chopping off hands
00:20:09.900 to force natives
00:20:12.460 to collect rubber,
00:20:13.700 leaving millions
00:20:14.600 dead in a horror
00:20:15.720 that should be
00:20:16.500 directly compared
00:20:17.920 to the Holocaust.
00:20:20.160 There are about
00:20:20.840 a dozen little
00:20:21.940 cheats here,
00:20:23.000 one embedded
00:20:23.760 in others
00:20:24.700 like Russian
00:20:25.900 nesting dolls.
00:20:28.100 So here's the facts.
00:20:29.300 By 1891,
00:20:31.500 six years into
00:20:32.320 the attempt
00:20:33.100 to build the EIC,
00:20:34.400 the whole project
00:20:35.020 was on the verge
00:20:35.640 of bankruptcy.
00:20:37.220 It would have been
00:20:37.700 easy for Leopold
00:20:38.620 to raise revenues
00:20:39.560 by sanctioning
00:20:40.340 imports of liquor
00:20:41.380 that could be taxed
00:20:42.500 or by levying fees
00:20:43.420 on the number
00:20:43.860 of huts
00:20:44.320 in each village,
00:20:45.480 both of which
00:20:46.100 would have caused
00:20:46.640 harm to the
00:20:47.400 native population.
00:20:48.620 A truly greedy king,
00:20:50.160 as Hochschild
00:20:50.640 repeatedly calls him,
00:20:51.920 had many fiscal
00:20:52.840 options that Leopold
00:20:54.420 did not exercise.
00:20:56.880 Instead,
00:20:57.400 he did what
00:20:58.480 most other
00:20:59.160 colonial governments
00:20:59.980 and many
00:21:00.420 post-colonial ones
00:21:01.480 in Africa did.
00:21:02.520 He imposed
00:21:02.960 a labor requirement
00:21:04.300 in lieu of taxes.
00:21:06.240 In a small part
00:21:07.040 of the Upper Congo
00:21:07.720 River area,
00:21:08.420 he declared an EIC
00:21:09.460 monopoly over
00:21:10.400 natural resort products,
00:21:12.340 including rubber
00:21:13.060 and ivory,
00:21:13.840 that could be harvested
00:21:14.720 as part of the
00:21:15.340 labor requirements
00:21:16.100 to pay for
00:21:16.740 the territory's
00:21:17.440 government.
00:21:18.300 From 1896
00:21:19.220 to 1904,
00:21:20.260 the EIC company
00:21:21.280 and two private
00:21:22.180 companies operated
00:21:23.020 in this area,
00:21:24.000 which covered
00:21:24.400 about 15%
00:21:25.140 of the territory
00:21:25.840 and held
00:21:26.280 about a fifth
00:21:27.580 of the population.
00:21:28.740 The resulting
00:21:29.360 rubber remedies
00:21:30.060 temporarily saved
00:21:31.320 the EIC,
00:21:32.080 but only until
00:21:33.100 rubber prices
00:21:33.800 collapsed.
00:21:34.860 Still,
00:21:35.420 the preservation
00:21:36.100 of the EIC
00:21:36.880 meant the preservation
00:21:37.840 of its life-saving
00:21:38.760 interventions
00:21:39.340 against disease,
00:21:40.800 tribal war,
00:21:41.540 slavery,
00:21:42.240 and grinding
00:21:42.640 poverty that
00:21:43.660 had bewilded
00:21:45.540 the region
00:21:46.060 since recorded
00:21:47.020 time.
00:21:47.780 So again,
00:21:48.540 here we are
00:21:49.000 trying to,
00:21:49.720 or they are
00:21:50.860 trying to help,
00:21:52.140 trying to fix this.
00:21:52.900 No,
00:21:53.280 just don't even bother.
00:21:55.340 You know what I mean?
00:21:57.040 Why?
00:21:58.200 The rubber quotas
00:21:59.000 imposed on natives
00:21:59.980 in this 15%
00:22:01.080 of the territory
00:22:01.920 were enforced
00:22:02.920 by native soldiers
00:22:03.960 working for the
00:22:04.880 companies or for
00:22:05.840 the EIC itself.
00:22:06.960 In many areas,
00:22:07.840 the rubber came
00:22:08.460 with ease
00:22:08.980 and the natives
00:22:09.560 prospered.
00:22:10.540 The rubber
00:22:10.780 stationed at
00:22:11.520 Erengi,
00:22:12.060 for example,
00:22:12.800 was known for
00:22:13.580 its bulging
00:22:14.560 stores and
00:22:15.220 hospital locals,
00:22:16.580 whose women
00:22:17.200 spent a lot of
00:22:17.880 time making
00:22:18.300 bracelets and
00:22:19.160 were,
00:22:19.920 quote,
00:22:20.040 where no one
00:22:22.760 ever misses
00:22:23.300 a meal,
00:22:24.200 unquote,
00:22:24.640 noted the
00:22:25.020 IAC soldier
00:22:25.780 George
00:22:26.260 Bracuse
00:22:27.240 in his
00:22:27.580 memoirs.
00:22:28.440 Elsewhere,
00:22:28.860 however,
00:22:29.260 absent direct
00:22:30.100 supervision
00:22:30.720 and with
00:22:31.500 the difficulties
00:22:32.380 of meeting
00:22:33.360 quotas
00:22:33.820 greater,
00:22:34.900 some native
00:22:35.500 soldiers engaged
00:22:36.580 in abusive
00:22:37.280 behavior to
00:22:38.180 force the
00:22:38.940 collection.
00:22:40.300 Bracuse
00:22:40.620 noted that
00:22:41.400 these areas
00:22:41.960 as well,
00:22:43.120 especially where
00:22:44.700 locals had
00:22:45.260 sabotaged
00:22:45.880 rubber stations
00:22:46.500 and then fled
00:22:47.180 to the French
00:22:47.760 Congo,
00:22:48.480 to the north,
00:22:49.320 in rare cases,
00:22:50.200 native soldiers
00:22:50.700 did kidnap
00:22:51.320 women or
00:22:51.780 killed men
00:22:52.280 to extend
00:22:53.360 revenge.
00:22:54.440 When they
00:22:54.740 fell into
00:22:55.520 skirmishes,
00:22:56.160 they sometimes
00:22:56.840 followed
00:22:57.240 long-standing
00:22:58.320 Arab and
00:22:59.320 African
00:22:59.800 traditions by
00:23:00.940 cutting off
00:23:01.660 the hands
00:23:02.160 or feet
00:23:02.860 of the
00:23:03.320 fallen as
00:23:04.100 trophies,
00:23:05.060 or to show
00:23:05.780 that they
00:23:06.320 had bullets
00:23:06.960 they had
00:23:07.380 fired that
00:23:08.680 had been
00:23:08.980 used in
00:23:09.360 battle.
00:23:09.760 Many
00:23:10.000 locals died
00:23:11.040 in these
00:23:11.560 frays.
00:23:12.800 How many
00:23:13.640 locals died
00:23:16.720 in these
00:23:17.080 frays is
00:23:17.500 unclear,
00:23:18.220 but the
00:23:18.560 confirmed
00:23:18.960 cases might
00:23:19.920 put the
00:23:20.300 figure at
00:23:20.740 about 10,000.
00:23:22.280 A terrible
00:23:22.680 number.
00:23:24.020 The abusers
00:23:24.520 were first
00:23:25.140 reported by
00:23:25.780 an American
00:23:26.160 missionary in
00:23:26.900 the Times
00:23:27.480 of London
00:23:28.480 in 1895
00:23:29.540 and quickly
00:23:30.680 brought
00:23:31.100 Leopold's
00:23:31.760 censure.
00:23:32.560 If there
00:23:33.280 are these
00:23:34.600 abuses in
00:23:35.500 the Congo,
00:23:36.080 we must
00:23:36.540 stop them,
00:23:37.800 he warned
00:23:38.220 the EIC
00:23:38.760 officials in
00:23:39.740 1896.
00:23:41.180 If they
00:23:41.460 continued,
00:23:42.100 it will be
00:23:42.420 the end
00:23:42.900 of the
00:23:43.240 state.
00:23:43.920 For the
00:23:44.140 next 10
00:23:44.540 years,
00:23:44.980 reforming the
00:23:45.860 Congo's
00:23:46.340 rubber
00:23:46.660 industry
00:23:47.060 absorbed an
00:23:47.780 inordinate
00:23:48.280 amount of
00:23:48.720 attention in
00:23:49.640 the British
00:23:50.080 and American
00:23:50.540 press and
00:23:51.400 legislators,
00:23:52.260 not to
00:23:52.740 mention within
00:23:53.340 Belgium and
00:23:54.000 the EIC
00:23:54.460 itself,
00:23:55.280 leading to a
00:23:56.000 formal Belgian
00:23:56.780 colonization in
00:23:57.800 1908.
00:23:59.520 Hochschild thus
00:24:00.580 takes a very
00:24:01.200 limited,
00:24:02.020 unintentionally
00:24:02.700 unforeseen and
00:24:03.440 perhaps unavoidable
00:24:04.480 problem of
00:24:05.460 native-on-native
00:24:06.540 conflict over
00:24:07.500 rubber harvesting
00:24:08.320 and blows it
00:24:09.420 up into a
00:24:10.040 forgotten
00:24:11.080 holocaust,
00:24:12.460 to quote the
00:24:13.160 subtitle given
00:24:13.980 to the French
00:24:14.640 edition of
00:24:15.440 this book.
00:24:16.400 Inside this
00:24:16.840 great invention
00:24:18.900 are many
00:24:20.300 more
00:24:20.740 perdifidous
00:24:22.180 Russian
00:24:22.760 dolls.
00:24:24.220 First,
00:24:24.780 in what might
00:24:25.460 charitably be
00:24:26.340 seen or
00:24:27.120 described as a
00:24:27.980 puzzling instance
00:24:28.720 of creative
00:24:29.340 editing,
00:24:30.400 Hochschild takes
00:24:31.220 the testimony
00:24:32.000 of an EIC
00:24:32.920 officer against
00:24:34.240 rubber harvesting
00:24:35.060 and turns it
00:24:36.040 into a call
00:24:37.040 for rubber
00:24:38.340 atrocities.
00:24:39.900 This little
00:24:40.340 dodge forms a
00:24:41.940 cornerstone of
00:24:42.880 his argument
00:24:43.440 that chopped
00:24:44.580 hands for
00:24:45.120 rubber was a
00:24:45.860 deliberate policy
00:24:47.020 and officially
00:24:48.000 sanctioned.
00:24:49.160 The speaker is
00:24:51.320 Charles LaMere
00:24:52.740 who was first
00:24:53.860 commissioned of
00:24:54.540 the EIC
00:24:55.820 or is this a
00:24:58.040 different one?
00:24:58.500 Yeah, the
00:24:58.900 Ecuador district
00:25:00.020 and whose
00:25:04.840 memoirs are
00:25:05.560 held at the
00:25:06.200 University of
00:25:06.840 Ghent.
00:25:07.700 Now, the
00:25:07.960 original quotation
00:25:08.940 reads, he
00:25:09.540 reads it in
00:25:10.020 French here,
00:25:11.840 is as follows,
00:25:12.640 this is his
00:25:13.040 translation,
00:25:14.020 As soon as
00:25:14.800 the rubber
00:25:15.220 question was
00:25:15.960 raised, I
00:25:16.780 stood firmly
00:25:17.440 in opposition
00:25:18.420 and wrote to
00:25:19.600 the government,
00:25:20.820 We will have
00:25:21.440 to be cutting
00:25:23.200 off hands and
00:25:23.980 noses and
00:25:24.760 ears if we
00:25:25.780 intend to
00:25:26.460 collect rubber
00:25:27.040 in the
00:25:28.220 Ecuador district
00:25:29.280 where no
00:25:29.860 preparations had
00:25:30.840 been made,
00:25:31.560 and I don't
00:25:32.240 think we drove
00:25:32.940 away the Arab
00:25:33.720 bandits in order
00:25:34.700 to take their
00:25:35.480 place.
00:25:35.940 Even as the
00:25:38.080 anti-Leopold
00:25:39.020 historian Daniel
00:25:40.120 Vangroveg
00:25:42.480 noted,
00:25:43.200 Lemar,
00:25:44.320 like most
00:25:46.680 EIC officials,
00:25:47.580 was unwilling
00:25:48.320 and unable
00:25:49.160 to pursue a
00:25:50.140 systemic rubber
00:25:50.920 harvest.
00:25:51.980 He did not
00:25:52.740 have the time
00:25:53.360 and he
00:25:53.800 understood that
00:25:54.560 he would not
00:25:55.360 work without
00:25:56.380 the use of
00:25:57.040 force.
00:25:57.880 Hochschild,
00:25:58.680 however,
00:25:59.480 creatively edits
00:26:00.640 the quotation
00:26:01.440 to say the
00:26:02.840 opposite.
00:26:03.760 Imagine my
00:26:04.220 shock.
00:26:04.480 This is what
00:26:04.760 Hochschild says
00:26:05.400 about this.
00:26:05.780 As soon as it
00:26:09.580 was a question
00:26:10.440 of rubber,
00:26:11.360 I wrote to
00:26:12.100 the government,
00:26:13.540 to gather
00:26:13.960 rubber in the
00:26:14.660 district,
00:26:15.760 edit,
00:26:16.080 edit,
00:26:16.300 edit,
00:26:16.580 dot,
00:26:16.800 dot,
00:26:16.920 dot,
00:26:17.400 one must
00:26:18.420 cut off
00:26:19.000 hands,
00:26:19.680 noses,
00:26:20.300 and ears.
00:26:22.200 Why did I
00:26:23.020 always do
00:26:23.280 this?
00:26:24.060 Scum.
00:26:25.480 Liar!
00:26:26.040 This is such
00:26:27.920 a reckless
00:26:28.960 act of
00:26:29.920 dishonesty
00:26:30.720 that one
00:26:31.920 can only
00:26:32.600 marvel.
00:26:35.120 Let's
00:26:35.760 proceed to
00:26:36.220 the next
00:26:36.620 cheat.
00:26:37.280 Most
00:26:37.540 memorably
00:26:38.060 for readers,
00:26:38.900 Hochschild's
00:26:39.440 reprints
00:26:39.900 staged
00:26:40.520 photographs
00:26:41.720 taken by
00:26:42.560 English
00:26:43.060 missionary
00:26:43.460 Alice
00:26:43.920 Seeley
00:26:44.400 Harris
00:26:44.820 and supplied
00:26:45.880 to the
00:26:46.680 anti-Leopold
00:26:47.340 campaign
00:26:47.880 through the
00:26:48.340 English
00:26:48.600 missionary
00:26:48.940 John
00:26:49.280 Weeks.
00:26:50.120 The
00:26:50.200 missionaries
00:26:50.600 knew that
00:26:51.240 showing these
00:26:51.760 fake photos
00:26:52.560 at lantern
00:26:53.420 shows in
00:26:54.600 community halls
00:26:55.240 in Britain
00:26:55.800 won more
00:26:56.740 attention and
00:26:57.380 donations than
00:26:58.400 their detailed
00:26:59.040 accounts of
00:26:59.720 cannibalism and
00:27:01.140 sleeping sickness
00:27:02.240 ravaging their
00:27:03.240 areas.
00:27:04.160 Sleeping sickness.
00:27:04.940 I don't even
00:27:05.160 know what that
00:27:05.460 is.
00:27:05.960 Some African
00:27:06.340 thing.
00:27:06.800 Hochschild does
00:27:07.560 not tell the
00:27:08.580 reader that
00:27:09.280 the photographs
00:27:09.800 are staged,
00:27:11.140 nor does he
00:27:11.540 explain that
00:27:16.040 the photographs
00:27:16.680 of people with
00:27:17.520 severed hands
00:27:18.200 were victims
00:27:19.080 of gangrene,
00:27:21.220 tribal vendettas,
00:27:22.200 or cannibalism
00:27:23.000 having nothing
00:27:23.920 to do with
00:27:25.240 rubber.
00:27:26.540 In the most
00:27:27.280 famous photo
00:27:28.000 of them all,
00:27:28.720 a man whom
00:27:29.380 Seeley got to
00:27:30.200 sit on the
00:27:30.960 veranda of
00:27:31.680 her mission
00:27:32.240 station with
00:27:33.380 a severed
00:27:33.920 hand and
00:27:34.440 foot before
00:27:35.680 him.
00:27:36.100 The original
00:27:36.720 caption given
00:27:37.900 my morale
00:27:38.460 reads,
00:27:39.000 Sala of
00:27:39.600 Walla and
00:27:40.620 remains of
00:27:43.260 his five-year-old
00:27:44.120 daughter,
00:27:44.540 both wife and
00:27:45.200 child,
00:27:45.460 were eaten by
00:27:46.180 king's soldiers
00:27:47.200 at a cannibal
00:27:48.240 feast.
00:27:49.180 Huh?
00:27:50.980 Until Hochschild,
00:27:52.400 no one had
00:27:52.960 suggested that the
00:27:53.780 girl or her
00:27:54.400 mother were
00:27:54.800 killed for
00:27:55.400 rubber,
00:27:56.040 only that the
00:27:56.620 EIC had
00:27:57.240 failed to
00:27:58.060 control the
00:27:59.140 eating habits
00:27:59.940 of its
00:28:00.320 citizens.
00:28:01.500 Hochschild,
00:28:01.980 however,
00:28:02.420 captions the
00:28:02.980 photo thus,
00:28:04.180 Nesala of
00:28:04.940 the district
00:28:05.520 of Walla,
00:28:06.560 looking at
00:28:07.120 the severed
00:28:07.660 hand and
00:28:08.120 foot of
00:28:08.540 his five-year-old
00:28:09.280 daughter,
00:28:09.880 Boalia,
00:28:10.460 a victim of
00:28:11.160 the Anglo-Belgian
00:28:12.720 Indian Rubber
00:28:13.660 Company,
00:28:14.740 Militia,
00:28:15.300 the A-B-I-R.
00:28:16.920 This is like
00:28:17.400 saying,
00:28:18.320 someone killed
00:28:19.000 by a person
00:28:19.740 who works for
00:28:20.480 Boeing is a
00:28:21.340 victim of the
00:28:22.080 Boeing Labor
00:28:22.720 Union.
00:28:23.540 It is
00:28:23.880 chicanery,
00:28:25.100 plain and
00:28:25.680 simple.
00:28:26.560 Third,
00:28:26.940 as a
00:28:27.200 self-proclaimed
00:28:27.780 human rights
00:28:28.320 activist,
00:28:29.080 of course,
00:28:29.880 Hochschild can
00:28:30.400 be forgiven
00:28:31.040 for his
00:28:31.480 economic
00:28:32.100 illiteracy.
00:28:33.540 But since
00:28:34.300 it's the
00:28:34.960 keystone
00:28:35.500 that begins
00:28:39.380 his tale,
00:28:40.120 it is another
00:28:41.060 fib worthy
00:28:42.060 of correcting.
00:28:43.180 The EIC's
00:28:43.940 large trade
00:28:44.880 surplus,
00:28:45.860 more physical
00:28:46.760 goods going
00:28:47.540 out than
00:28:48.020 coming in,
00:28:48.900 was because
00:28:49.440 virtually none
00:28:50.720 of the
00:28:51.160 revenue from
00:28:51.900 the goods
00:28:52.340 sold in
00:28:52.820 Europe was
00:28:53.340 sent back
00:28:54.060 to pay for
00:28:54.660 labor,
00:28:55.300 which was
00:28:55.700 paid for
00:28:56.320 as a
00:28:56.900 fulfillment
00:28:57.360 of the
00:28:57.700 EIC labor
00:28:58.420 obligations.
00:28:59.260 Instead,
00:29:00.180 the revenue
00:29:00.640 paid for
00:29:01.180 European
00:29:01.480 administration,
00:29:02.360 infrastructure,
00:29:03.000 and trade
00:29:03.360 services in
00:29:04.060 the Congo,
00:29:04.860 as well as
00:29:05.700 profits that
00:29:06.500 were parked
00:29:06.980 in Belgium,
00:29:08.060 an overall
00:29:08.800 payment deficit.
00:29:10.260 For Hochschild
00:29:10.960 to claim that
00:29:11.720 Africans were
00:29:12.300 getting a little
00:29:12.800 to nothing for
00:29:13.760 the goods they
00:29:14.260 produced because
00:29:14.940 fewer goods were
00:29:15.860 being sent to
00:29:16.620 Africa,
00:29:17.460 displays a
00:29:18.040 stunning economic
00:29:19.100 ignorance.
00:29:20.120 It is like
00:29:21.480 saying that
00:29:22.020 the empty
00:29:22.560 container ships
00:29:23.420 returning to
00:29:24.160 China from
00:29:25.460 today's port of
00:29:26.240 Long Beach show
00:29:27.340 that China's
00:29:28.160 workers are
00:29:28.820 being paid
00:29:29.400 little or
00:29:30.120 nothing.
00:29:31.520 Fascinating.
00:29:32.160 Fourth,
00:29:32.820 the big headline
00:29:33.560 of the book,
00:29:34.600 a whopper,
00:29:35.500 really,
00:29:35.940 is Hochschild's
00:29:36.720 claim that the
00:29:37.240 population of the
00:29:37.940 Congo fell by
00:29:38.660 50%, or 10
00:29:41.100 million on
00:29:42.020 Leopold's watch.
00:29:43.240 The EIC,
00:29:44.000 he claims,
00:29:44.500 caused depopulation
00:29:45.700 and a mass
00:29:46.760 murder of
00:29:47.500 genocidal
00:29:48.180 proportions due
00:29:49.420 to its drive
00:29:50.320 for rubber
00:29:50.860 profits.
00:29:52.020 In fact,
00:29:52.880 the most
00:29:53.340 knowledgeable
00:29:53.860 estimates today
00:29:55.040 suggest that the
00:29:56.020 general population
00:29:56.800 of the Congo
00:29:57.380 rose slightly
00:29:58.880 during the EIC
00:29:59.720 era and that
00:30:00.720 any deaths
00:30:01.300 attributable to
00:30:02.460 the limited
00:30:03.180 abuses in the
00:30:03.960 rubber areas
00:30:04.540 were far
00:30:05.460 outweighed by
00:30:06.160 the lives saved
00:30:07.180 and created by
00:30:08.040 the EIC's
00:30:08.700 direct interventions
00:30:09.940 in other
00:30:10.920 respects.
00:30:12.220 Even if we
00:30:12.880 can agree that
00:30:13.700 any life lost
00:30:15.060 to senseless
00:30:15.720 violence and
00:30:16.320 negligent
00:30:16.820 governance is
00:30:17.780 always and
00:30:18.320 everywhere
00:30:18.640 deserving of
00:30:19.520 condemnation.
00:30:20.660 Leopold's
00:30:21.140 regime was a
00:30:22.280 monumental
00:30:22.980 achievement in
00:30:24.320 saving and
00:30:24.960 promoting black
00:30:26.660 lives.
00:30:27.520 Maybe they
00:30:28.160 shouldn't have
00:30:28.500 got involved at
00:30:29.240 all.
00:30:30.460 Okay.
00:30:32.540 I hate King
00:30:33.420 Leopold now.
00:30:35.940 Here they are
00:30:39.420 actually helping
00:30:41.020 and they're
00:30:41.720 saving and
00:30:42.560 they're improving
00:30:43.260 and they're
00:30:43.780 doing all
00:30:44.380 these things.
00:30:45.000 They're bringing
00:30:45.280 infrastructure.
00:30:46.660 These people
00:30:47.000 are now working
00:30:47.900 and stuff.
00:30:48.420 They're driving
00:30:48.940 Arab slave
00:30:50.200 traders and
00:30:50.920 these brutal
00:30:51.500 old ways that
00:30:52.340 they had.
00:30:52.800 Right.
00:30:55.120 They're driving
00:30:55.980 them away,
00:30:57.480 improving things
00:30:58.380 and historically
00:30:59.860 they're being
00:31:00.420 blamed for
00:31:01.800 making things
00:31:02.420 worse.
00:31:02.640 It's incredible
00:31:03.760 the lies of
00:31:06.020 these people,
00:31:06.600 the audacity
00:31:08.480 of these
00:31:09.440 so-called
00:31:10.080 historians
00:31:10.820 to wheel
00:31:11.980 out this
00:31:12.380 garbage and
00:31:13.620 shit and
00:31:14.400 turn it on
00:31:14.900 its head.
00:31:15.660 And again,
00:31:16.020 as the author
00:31:16.660 said in the
00:31:17.000 beginning,
00:31:17.480 then that's
00:31:18.080 just a footnote.
00:31:19.380 Well, you
00:31:19.660 see, this is
00:31:20.060 what you get
00:31:21.580 with references
00:31:22.540 and, well,
00:31:23.180 it's highly
00:31:23.760 documented,
00:31:24.520 you see.
00:31:26.400 Just point to
00:31:27.100 the book and
00:31:27.480 that's all you
00:31:27.820 have to do.
00:31:28.880 Put a number
00:31:30.100 after your
00:31:30.700 little source,
00:31:32.420 point to the
00:31:33.160 book and say,
00:31:33.580 well, it's
00:31:33.920 been widely
00:31:34.660 documented now.
00:31:36.140 How could
00:31:38.780 Hochschild go
00:31:39.600 so wrong?
00:31:40.300 Yeah, this is
00:31:41.140 totally not
00:31:42.080 intentional,
00:31:42.600 right?
00:31:43.260 He's not at
00:31:44.240 all motivated
00:31:45.440 politically,
00:31:47.580 economically,
00:31:48.260 socially,
00:31:48.820 culturally,
00:31:49.360 ethnically,
00:31:49.880 right?
00:31:50.040 There's nothing
00:31:50.720 going on here.
00:31:52.780 He was highly
00:31:53.540 motivated from
00:31:54.140 the start to
00:31:54.640 find a genocide
00:31:55.880 because, as he
00:31:56.720 notes, his
00:31:57.540 project began by
00:31:58.640 reading the
00:31:59.140 American humorist
00:31:59.980 Mark Twain's
00:32:00.800 claim that
00:32:01.780 8 to 10
00:32:02.540 million people
00:32:03.120 had died in
00:32:03.720 the EIC,
00:32:04.480 but no
00:32:05.100 scholar has
00:32:05.700 ever made
00:32:06.540 such a
00:32:07.000 charge.
00:32:07.960 His source
00:32:08.580 was a chapter
00:32:09.420 by the
00:32:09.840 Belgian
00:32:10.160 ethnographer
00:32:11.000 John
00:32:11.960 Vansina,
00:32:14.920 citing his
00:32:15.480 own work
00:32:16.160 on population
00:32:16.860 declines in
00:32:17.640 the entirety
00:32:18.420 of Central
00:32:18.980 Africa
00:32:19.320 throughout
00:32:19.920 the 19th
00:32:21.000 century that
00:32:21.480 included only
00:32:22.860 what became
00:32:23.620 the northern
00:32:23.980 areas of
00:32:24.540 the EIC.
00:32:25.500 In any
00:32:25.840 case,
00:32:26.960 Vassira's
00:32:27.720 own source
00:32:28.420 was a
00:32:29.040 Harvard
00:32:29.380 study of
00:32:30.960 1928 that
00:32:32.720 quoted a
00:32:33.300 1919 Belgian
00:32:34.760 claim that
00:32:35.380 in some
00:32:36.020 areas population
00:32:37.320 had fallen
00:32:37.860 by half,
00:32:38.780 but quoted
00:32:39.200 it in
00:32:41.020 order to
00:32:41.800 assert that
00:32:42.360 it was
00:32:42.600 almost
00:32:43.300 certainly
00:32:44.120 false.
00:32:45.800 The first
00:32:46.680 proper sample-based
00:32:48.160 census was not
00:32:49.100 carried out
00:32:49.640 until 1949,
00:32:52.280 so demographers
00:32:52.780 have not have to
00:32:53.660 reconstruct population
00:32:54.760 totals from
00:32:55.660 micro-level data
00:32:56.800 on food supply,
00:32:58.000 settlement patterns,
00:32:58.860 village counts,
00:32:59.580 birth records,
00:33:00.220 and the like.
00:33:00.660 The most
00:33:02.300 sophisticated
00:33:02.920 modeling by
00:33:03.640 French and
00:33:04.180 Belgian
00:33:04.480 demographers
00:33:05.240 variously
00:33:06.160 suggests a
00:33:07.120 population of
00:33:07.820 8 to 11
00:33:09.420 million in
00:33:09.960 1885 and
00:33:10.880 10 to 12
00:33:11.660 million by
00:33:12.740 1908.
00:33:14.180 The Belgian
00:33:15.020 Jean-Paul
00:33:15.700 Sanderson,
00:33:16.440 using a
00:33:16.980 backward
00:33:17.360 projection
00:33:17.880 method by
00:33:18.600 age cohorts,
00:33:19.680 found a
00:33:20.000 slightly decline
00:33:20.740 from 10.5
00:33:22.620 million in
00:33:23.160 1885 to
00:33:24.060 10 million
00:33:24.640 in 1910.
00:33:26.240 The estimated
00:33:28.300 change in
00:33:29.500 total population
00:33:30.300 governed by
00:33:30.960 changing births
00:33:32.000 and deaths
00:33:32.460 rates over
00:33:33.100 a 25-year
00:33:34.240 period represents
00:33:35.240 a negligible
00:33:36.600 annual net
00:33:37.460 decline in
00:33:38.000 population.
00:33:39.160 Even taking
00:33:39.680 Sanderson's
00:33:40.540 pessimistic
00:33:41.320 estimate as
00:33:41.940 correct,
00:33:43.100 does this
00:33:43.400 mean that
00:33:43.740 Leopold's
00:33:45.700 rule killed
00:33:46.780 500,000
00:33:48.100 people?
00:33:49.380 Well, of
00:33:49.860 course not,
00:33:50.440 because in
00:33:50.780 addition to
00:33:51.460 the misplaced
00:33:52.120 personalization
00:33:52.880 of long-term
00:33:53.660 population
00:33:54.160 changes,
00:33:55.060 the rubber
00:33:55.380 regions,
00:33:55.820 as mentioned,
00:33:56.940 experienced both
00:33:57.620 population
00:33:58.160 increases and
00:33:59.020 decline,
00:33:59.540 even in
00:34:00.180 the latter,
00:34:02.500 such as the
00:34:03.040 rubber production
00:34:03.800 Bolu-Bolu area
00:34:05.000 in the lower
00:34:07.760 reaches of the
00:34:08.380 Congo River.
00:34:08.980 Population
00:34:09.320 decline was a
00:34:10.020 result of the
00:34:10.560 brutalities of
00:34:11.280 freelance native
00:34:11.900 chiefs and
00:34:12.860 ended with the
00:34:13.400 arrival of an
00:34:14.240 EIC officer.
00:34:15.580 So they show
00:34:16.240 up, then it
00:34:16.800 ends, and then
00:34:17.800 they take what
00:34:18.220 happened before
00:34:18.720 that as a
00:34:19.560 sign that they're
00:34:20.160 guilty.
00:34:20.660 It's incredible.
00:34:21.780 More generally,
00:34:22.440 the stability and
00:34:23.080 enforced peace of
00:34:24.180 the EIC caused
00:34:25.060 birth rates to
00:34:25.800 rise near EIG
00:34:27.560 centers, such as
00:34:28.640 the Catholic
00:34:29.220 Mission under
00:34:29.800 EIG protection
00:34:31.040 of Baudonville,
00:34:34.060 today's Kirungu.
00:34:37.340 That's a damn
00:34:37.860 shame.
00:34:38.540 Population
00:34:39.140 declines were in
00:34:40.000 areas outside of
00:34:41.140 effective EIC
00:34:43.180 control.
00:34:44.020 The modest
00:34:44.720 population gains
00:34:45.600 caused by EIC
00:34:46.480 interventions were
00:34:47.160 overwhelmed by a
00:34:48.500 range of wholly
00:34:49.280 separate factors.
00:34:50.720 factors.
00:34:51.300 Well, now you're
00:34:52.400 getting into
00:34:52.820 details and
00:34:53.860 objective reality.
00:34:55.760 This is too
00:34:56.360 complicated.
00:34:58.640 Imagine that.
00:34:59.240 It wasn't just
00:34:59.920 because evil
00:35:00.700 Europeans showed
00:35:01.480 up and killed
00:35:02.060 everybody and
00:35:02.620 chopped off their
00:35:03.180 hands because they
00:35:04.820 were sadistic and
00:35:05.560 had nothing better
00:35:06.100 to do.
00:35:06.980 It was other
00:35:07.420 factors, which
00:35:08.020 include, or which
00:35:10.520 in order of
00:35:11.000 importance were,
00:35:12.140 rather, the
00:35:13.140 slave trade,
00:35:14.500 sleeping sickness,
00:35:15.620 intertribal warfare,
00:35:16.700 other endemic
00:35:17.280 diseases like
00:35:17.960 smallpox,
00:35:19.180 barbaria,
00:35:20.520 influenza,
00:35:21.120 yellow fever,
00:35:21.640 pneumonia,
00:35:22.140 dysentery,
00:35:22.700 tuberculosis,
00:35:23.460 typhoid fever,
00:35:24.560 and vulnerable
00:35:25.240 venereal disease,
00:35:26.540 cannibalism,
00:35:28.340 and human
00:35:28.760 sacrifice.
00:35:31.520 Hochschild, in
00:35:32.500 a sense, knows
00:35:33.820 he will be called
00:35:34.700 out on this and
00:35:35.960 thus rolls out the
00:35:36.920 fudge that,
00:35:37.700 quote, although
00:35:38.300 outright murder was
00:35:39.700 not the major
00:35:40.420 cause of death,
00:35:41.100 unquote, the most
00:35:42.160 important determining
00:35:42.860 factor of demographic
00:35:43.700 trends in the entire
00:35:44.920 territory was the
00:35:46.080 finding and
00:35:47.740 using of labor
00:35:49.060 for rubber and
00:35:49.820 other devious
00:35:50.580 endeavors like
00:35:51.320 building railways.
00:35:52.840 Again, this is
00:35:53.480 simply untenable
00:35:54.720 and has never
00:35:56.080 been advanced by
00:35:57.000 any reputable
00:35:57.760 scholar.
00:35:58.380 In more, or
00:35:59.080 even more, it
00:36:00.060 is an insult to
00:36:01.100 Congolese who
00:36:02.100 fought against
00:36:02.680 native tyrants
00:36:03.600 and slavers
00:36:04.300 alongside the
00:36:05.020 EIC.
00:36:05.840 As the
00:36:06.100 anthropologist
00:36:06.540 Michael Singleton
00:36:07.160 noted, quote,
00:36:08.160 the condition of
00:36:08.780 African populations
00:36:09.900 resulted primarily
00:36:10.840 from the
00:36:11.260 demographic strategies
00:36:12.560 of those whose
00:36:13.860 lives were at
00:36:14.780 stake and not
00:36:15.960 from the
00:36:16.340 interventions,
00:36:17.320 well or ill
00:36:18.160 intentioned,
00:36:19.540 of foreigners.
00:36:22.600 All right.
00:36:24.180 It does go on
00:36:24.920 for a bit.
00:36:25.260 How could
00:36:25.740 Hochschild go so
00:36:26.720 wrong?
00:36:27.280 We get what's
00:36:28.520 going on here,
00:36:29.060 right?
00:36:29.220 But it's
00:36:29.660 fascinating when
00:36:31.160 you get into the
00:36:31.900 weeds of this.
00:36:35.340 Let me read a
00:36:36.100 little bit more
00:36:36.480 here.
00:36:36.720 We'll see if we've
00:36:37.800 had enough here.
00:36:39.280 Why did
00:36:39.880 Hochschild put
00:36:40.580 such stories in
00:36:42.160 plainly erroneous
00:36:43.140 data about a
00:36:44.160 loss of life
00:36:44.700 caused by the
00:36:45.280 EIC?
00:36:46.060 Here we come
00:36:46.760 to the horror
00:36:47.340 at the heart
00:36:47.780 of King
00:36:48.100 Hochschild's
00:36:49.020 hoax,
00:36:49.560 his attempt
00:36:50.100 to equate
00:36:50.760 the EIC
00:36:51.280 to the
00:36:52.200 Nazis
00:36:52.900 and to
00:36:54.260 the sacred
00:36:54.880 memory of
00:36:55.460 the Holocaust.
00:36:56.360 Oh my
00:36:56.680 God.
00:36:58.620 Oh my
00:36:59.120 God.
00:37:03.320 Is this a
00:37:03.720 well,
00:37:04.520 Europeans
00:37:05.200 for no reason
00:37:06.460 whatsoever,
00:37:07.020 they just
00:37:07.360 spurg out
00:37:07.920 and they just
00:37:08.440 kill a bunch
00:37:09.080 of people.
00:37:12.140 Holocaustism,
00:37:12.740 although of
00:37:13.040 course there's
00:37:13.380 only one,
00:37:13.840 there can be
00:37:14.140 only one,
00:37:14.760 right?
00:37:15.920 Of course we
00:37:16.520 know that,
00:37:16.860 yes,
00:37:17.080 yes,
00:37:17.320 Hochschild,
00:37:17.720 we know
00:37:17.920 that,
00:37:18.740 but they
00:37:19.420 just did
00:37:19.900 just all
00:37:20.420 over the
00:37:20.680 place.
00:37:21.000 They just
00:37:21.280 went out
00:37:22.140 and holocausted
00:37:22.900 people.
00:37:25.140 Europeans
00:37:25.460 have a
00:37:25.920 disease.
00:37:27.580 We have
00:37:28.200 to kill
00:37:28.580 them or
00:37:29.200 they will
00:37:29.460 kill us.
00:37:32.400 Throughout
00:37:32.840 the book
00:37:33.640 there is a
00:37:34.160 nauseating,
00:37:35.220 indeed enraging
00:37:36.340 use of
00:37:36.940 Holocaust and
00:37:37.800 Auschwitz
00:37:38.460 comparisons.
00:37:39.260 In part,
00:37:42.460 these reveal
00:37:43.300 an insecurity
00:37:44.460 about its
00:37:44.980 main thesis
00:37:45.860 and the
00:37:46.540 knowledge that
00:37:47.100 one way to
00:38:00.400 silence criticism
00:38:01.200 is to play
00:38:02.320 on the fact
00:38:02.920 that no one
00:38:03.760 wants to be
00:38:04.440 called a
00:38:05.380 Holocaust
00:38:05.760 denier.
00:38:07.660 Well,
00:38:07.860 why is that,
00:38:09.480 American
00:38:09.740 conservative?
00:38:10.460 Can you
00:38:10.700 please enlighten
00:38:11.920 me?
00:38:14.760 While we
00:38:15.460 know,
00:38:15.840 quote,
00:38:16.280 how many
00:38:16.780 Jews the
00:38:17.460 Nazis put
00:38:18.240 to death,
00:38:19.480 unquote,
00:38:20.740 how do we?
00:38:21.740 He menaces
00:38:22.640 readers,
00:38:23.680 insisting on
00:38:24.520 such precision
00:38:25.380 in the EIC
00:38:26.260 is distasteful.
00:38:28.620 You have
00:38:29.060 been warned.
00:38:29.720 Is that an
00:38:30.000 actual title?
00:38:30.960 I guess it's
00:38:31.860 the author of
00:38:32.640 this article
00:38:33.100 alluding to
00:38:34.180 that.
00:38:34.440 And the
00:38:36.180 strategy works.
00:38:37.360 In reviewing
00:38:37.800 Leopold II,
00:38:38.860 un roi
00:38:39.640 genocidier,
00:38:41.460 a royal
00:38:43.140 genociding,
00:38:44.460 a royal
00:38:45.860 genocider,
00:38:46.860 right,
00:38:47.080 that would
00:38:47.580 translate to,
00:38:48.700 a 2005
00:38:49.380 defense of
00:38:50.180 the EIC.
00:38:50.740 No,
00:38:51.040 no,
00:38:51.280 okay,
00:38:51.500 okay,
00:38:51.740 that's a
00:38:52.040 defense.
00:38:52.940 Is he
00:38:53.480 really a
00:38:54.060 genocide?
00:38:54.920 Is it
00:38:55.120 royal?
00:38:55.460 Is that
00:38:55.640 royal?
00:38:56.020 I think
00:38:56.240 it is,
00:38:56.480 isn't it?
00:38:57.260 A royal
00:38:57.980 genociding
00:38:59.100 maniac,
00:38:59.660 right?
00:39:00.300 So that's
00:39:00.860 a defense.
00:39:01.120 Okay,
00:39:01.320 the defense
00:39:01.880 of the EIC
00:39:02.360 by the Belgian
00:39:02.940 historian,
00:39:03.440 Michael
00:39:03.760 Dumoulion.
00:39:05.920 The emeritus
00:39:07.180 Boston University
00:39:08.180 professor,
00:39:08.840 Edward Baustein,
00:39:10.700 wrote malevolently,
00:39:12.420 Dumoulion is
00:39:13.240 waging a futile
00:39:14.520 and somewhat
00:39:15.180 unsavory battle
00:39:16.720 that is bound
00:39:17.560 to ring like
00:39:18.420 revisionist
00:39:19.140 versions of
00:39:19.840 the Holocaust.
00:39:20.280 The further
00:39:21.880 falsehoods and
00:39:22.680 distortions that
00:39:23.520 make up
00:39:24.180 King
00:39:24.520 Hochschild's
00:39:25.140 hoax all
00:39:26.060 collectively derive
00:39:26.880 from the
00:39:27.300 problems above.
00:39:28.640 Perhaps most
00:39:29.080 remarkably,
00:39:29.660 the book is
00:39:30.060 not really much
00:39:30.820 about the history
00:39:31.400 of the EIC
00:39:31.820 at all.
00:39:32.600 The central
00:39:33.080 activity that
00:39:34.020 justified,
00:39:34.700 motivated,
00:39:35.160 absorbed,
00:39:35.440 and in the
00:39:36.140 end defeated
00:39:37.060 the EIC
00:39:37.660 is missing.
00:39:38.620 The battle
00:39:38.940 against the
00:39:39.560 Afro-Arab
00:39:40.680 slave trade.
00:39:41.420 This is akin
00:39:43.340 to writing
00:39:43.800 a history
00:39:44.420 of the
00:39:44.640 68 years
00:39:45.180 of colonial
00:39:45.680 Kenya that
00:39:46.360 limits itself
00:39:47.000 only to
00:39:47.780 eight years
00:39:48.300 of Mao-Mao
00:39:49.280 counter-insurgency
00:39:50.280 campaigns.
00:39:51.860 Again,
00:39:52.200 Hochschild's
00:39:52.780 warily mentions
00:39:53.600 the efforts
00:39:54.100 to end
00:39:55.060 slavery at the
00:39:55.640 outset,
00:39:55.980 but merely
00:39:56.500 in order to
00:39:57.340 sneer at
00:39:58.080 them as
00:39:58.500 dubious.
00:39:59.580 Because of
00:40:00.260 prior European
00:40:01.040 involvement in
00:40:01.620 the slave
00:40:01.980 trade,
00:40:02.360 he mocks
00:40:02.960 the EIC's
00:40:03.680 campaign
00:40:04.080 against the
00:40:05.060 dastardly
00:40:06.280 slavers as
00:40:07.440 if they are
00:40:07.960 notable
00:40:08.480 proto-nationalists
00:40:09.800 and he
00:40:10.900 fawns over
00:40:11.940 the notorious
00:40:12.600 slaver
00:40:13.300 Tipi-Tipu-Tip
00:40:15.020 as handsome,
00:40:16.680 bearded,
00:40:17.420 strongly built.
00:40:19.600 Is he gay,
00:40:21.360 this guy?
00:40:22.580 As well as
00:40:23.360 shrewd and
00:40:24.260 resourceful with
00:40:25.140 administrative
00:40:25.820 acumen.
00:40:26.500 Oh, so here
00:40:27.040 we go again.
00:40:27.700 We have the
00:40:28.040 noble savage
00:40:29.540 at every step
00:40:31.200 of the way.
00:40:32.400 European's bad,
00:40:33.300 colonial is bad,
00:40:34.320 improving things
00:40:34.960 bad.
00:40:35.980 And look at
00:40:36.560 this handsome,
00:40:37.960 strongly built,
00:40:39.380 beautiful,
00:40:40.020 incredibly
00:40:40.860 resourceful,
00:40:41.880 noble savage.
00:40:46.520 Belgium had
00:40:47.360 no prior history
00:40:48.260 in the slave
00:40:48.920 trade,
00:40:49.260 nor of
00:40:49.820 African slaves.
00:40:51.720 Leopold could
00:40:52.240 fight against
00:40:53.060 slavery without
00:40:53.960 any hint of
00:40:54.880 hypocrisy,
00:40:55.460 even of the
00:40:56.420 ahistorical type
00:40:57.700 advanced by
00:40:58.340 Hochschild.
00:40:59.840 And it was
00:41:00.900 slavery,
00:41:01.800 not rubber
00:41:02.300 operations,
00:41:02.960 that contemporary
00:41:03.540 observers viewed
00:41:04.400 as the biggest
00:41:05.120 threat to the
00:41:05.920 people of the
00:41:06.380 Congo.
00:41:07.100 The missionary
00:41:07.620 Fannie Emma
00:41:08.700 Fitzgerald Guinness
00:41:09.860 was allowed to
00:41:11.100 visit one Arab
00:41:12.040 slave fort in
00:41:13.060 1890,
00:41:14.600 seeing, quote,
00:41:15.320 rose upon
00:41:16.460 rose of dark
00:41:18.000 nakedness,
00:41:19.160 reviled here and
00:41:20.140 there by the
00:41:21.000 white dresses of
00:41:22.040 the captors,
00:41:23.120 in one pen
00:41:24.080 holding,
00:41:24.900 in one pen
00:41:26.420 holding 2,300
00:41:28.440 souls.
00:41:29.020 see, it's okay
00:41:31.240 when the Arabs
00:41:31.940 do it.
00:41:32.540 They don't have
00:41:33.020 to, Muslims
00:41:34.600 are fine,
00:41:35.680 they're our
00:41:36.360 beautiful,
00:41:36.900 wonderful allies,
00:41:38.240 and they're here
00:41:40.240 to improve our
00:41:40.800 lives, okay?
00:41:42.520 They don't have
00:41:43.160 to pay back,
00:41:44.080 you know,
00:41:44.500 was it that
00:41:46.500 Germany is
00:41:46.940 repaying
00:41:48.240 Kenya, right?
00:41:50.560 Was that what it
00:41:51.100 was?
00:41:51.320 It was some
00:41:51.600 bullshit,
00:41:52.400 continue to,
00:41:53.580 we have reported
00:41:54.220 on this for years
00:41:54.720 now.
00:41:54.960 They're like,
00:41:55.240 here you go,
00:41:55.920 just forking out
00:41:56.580 billions and
00:41:57.100 billions of
00:41:57.500 euros now to
00:41:58.160 various African
00:42:00.120 nations to
00:42:01.440 pay back.
00:42:02.160 See what I'm
00:42:02.340 saying?
00:42:02.740 White guilt,
00:42:03.760 it's the biggest
00:42:04.320 disease.
00:42:05.500 Just, even if
00:42:06.840 we did these
00:42:07.620 things, I don't
00:42:08.580 fucking care.
00:42:10.060 I don't care.
00:42:10.960 I don't give a
00:42:11.620 fucking shit at
00:42:12.660 this point.
00:42:13.500 What's happening
00:42:14.140 to us now is a
00:42:15.740 crime.
00:42:16.540 That's what matters,
00:42:17.660 not what happened
00:42:18.260 over a hundred
00:42:18.720 years ago.
00:42:19.960 And then you
00:42:20.400 find out it
00:42:20.840 didn't even
00:42:21.320 happen.
00:42:22.360 It's incredible.
00:42:23.260 The lies,
00:42:23.940 the scum,
00:42:24.880 the historians,
00:42:26.860 the scum of
00:42:27.560 these academics
00:42:28.440 is incredible.
00:42:30.920 They need to
00:42:31.480 be exposed and
00:42:32.680 tossed out of
00:42:33.380 these universities.
00:42:36.040 She estimated
00:42:36.920 that for
00:42:37.780 every one
00:42:38.540 slave,
00:42:39.380 eventually sold,
00:42:40.300 seven died,
00:42:41.240 either in the
00:42:41.760 raids,
00:42:42.520 in the camps,
00:42:43.360 or while being
00:42:43.940 transported to
00:42:44.600 the Indian
00:42:44.980 Ocean.
00:42:45.780 In 1892,
00:42:46.820 a Belgian
00:42:47.160 trader and his
00:42:47.780 entire caravan
00:42:48.640 of six
00:42:49.040 Europeans and
00:42:49.560 40 porters
00:42:50.200 were beheaded
00:42:51.000 by a thug
00:42:51.720 controlled by
00:42:52.320 the notorious
00:42:52.840 slaver and
00:42:53.440 warlord,
00:42:53.860 Missouri,
00:42:55.300 who asked
00:42:55.860 that their
00:42:56.280 heads be
00:42:56.700 returned to
00:42:57.280 him to
00:42:57.980 decorate his
00:42:58.980 compound.
00:43:00.320 Fine,
00:43:00.800 fine noble
00:43:01.380 savages.
00:43:02.340 The trader
00:43:02.760 had tried to
00:43:03.680 persuade Missouri
00:43:04.520 and other
00:43:05.220 local tyrants
00:43:05.760 to sell their
00:43:06.580 ivory to his
00:43:07.320 company,
00:43:07.900 which could
00:43:08.380 transport it
00:43:09.880 by river,
00:43:10.640 thus
00:43:10.860 obviating,
00:43:14.360 avoiding the
00:43:16.140 need for
00:43:16.420 slaves.
00:43:16.720 I guess
00:43:16.900 that's the
00:43:17.220 term,
00:43:17.780 obviating.
00:43:18.460 The black
00:43:18.980 American
00:43:19.500 missionary
00:43:19.860 George
00:43:20.200 Washington
00:43:20.660 Williams
00:43:21.120 visited in
00:43:21.940 1890,
00:43:22.820 noted,
00:43:23.040 the most
00:43:24.000 revolting
00:43:24.660 crimes
00:43:25.220 committed by
00:43:26.080 the natives,
00:43:27.420 human hands
00:43:28.640 and feet
00:43:29.200 and limbs,
00:43:30.280 smoked and
00:43:30.920 dried,
00:43:31.380 are offered
00:43:31.840 and exposed
00:43:32.480 for sale
00:43:33.080 in many
00:43:33.660 of the
00:43:34.180 native
00:43:34.400 village markets.
00:43:35.120 From the
00:43:38.200 mouth of
00:43:38.780 the Lumami
00:43:39.900 River to
00:43:40.680 Stanley Falls,
00:43:41.880 there are
00:43:42.160 13 armed
00:43:43.260 Arab camps,
00:43:44.660 and in
00:43:45.020 them I
00:43:45.640 have seen
00:43:46.000 many skulls
00:43:46.900 of murdered
00:43:47.300 slaves,
00:43:47.860 pendants
00:43:48.160 from poles,
00:43:51.600 and over
00:43:52.260 these camps
00:43:52.920 floating their
00:43:53.740 blood-red flag.
00:43:55.380 Oddly,
00:43:56.260 Hochschild
00:43:56.600 quotes
00:43:56.940 Williams'
00:43:57.420 testimony
00:43:57.720 against
00:43:58.600 native
00:43:59.180 practices
00:43:59.700 to criticize
00:44:00.420 the EIC
00:44:00.900 for being
00:44:01.680 insufficiently
00:44:02.680 vigorous in
00:44:03.400 its attempt
00:44:04.220 to govern
00:44:04.900 the territory.
00:44:06.280 Heads I
00:44:06.780 win,
00:44:07.140 tails you
00:44:07.580 lose.
00:44:08.480 As this
00:44:08.960 logic slip
00:44:10.340 implies,
00:44:11.540 a justifiably
00:44:12.140 proportionate
00:44:12.700 response to
00:44:13.240 the scourge
00:44:13.640 of the
00:44:13.860 slave trade
00:44:14.340 required keen
00:44:15.100 efforts by
00:44:15.540 the EIC
00:44:15.860 to recruit
00:44:16.380 and feed
00:44:16.840 soldiers,
00:44:17.560 clearly clear
00:44:18.520 villages in
00:44:19.140 areas prone
00:44:19.700 to slave
00:44:20.100 raids,
00:44:20.700 establish
00:44:21.000 military and
00:44:21.620 governance
00:44:22.000 post,
00:44:22.520 and pursue
00:44:22.940 slave armies
00:44:23.680 to the
00:44:24.000 death.
00:44:24.280 We should
00:44:24.500 just have
00:44:24.860 never gotten
00:44:25.320 involved.
00:44:27.240 I'm utterly
00:44:28.180 convinced of
00:44:28.660 that.
00:44:29.620 Look at
00:44:30.260 the price
00:44:30.920 we have to
00:44:31.320 pay now
00:44:31.720 for this.
00:44:32.300 Now we
00:44:34.540 have
00:44:34.620 Haitians
00:44:35.000 coming in
00:44:35.340 the south,
00:44:35.960 right?
00:44:36.380 Sub-Saharan
00:44:36.700 Africans are
00:44:37.220 pouring into
00:44:37.820 Europe.
00:44:39.180 Accommodating
00:44:39.600 the Arab
00:44:39.940 slave traders
00:44:40.560 would be
00:44:41.320 a crime,
00:44:42.100 wrote the
00:44:42.260 EIC
00:44:42.440 captain and
00:44:42.980 later
00:44:43.240 World War
00:44:43.800 One hero,
00:44:44.640 Jules
00:44:44.920 Jacques
00:44:45.320 Demieux
00:44:46.040 of
00:44:46.420 1892.
00:44:49.340 Tackling
00:44:49.780 his boat
00:44:50.220 back in
00:44:50.760 the direction
00:44:51.460 of the
00:44:51.820 EIC
00:44:52.100 being too
00:44:52.820 vigorous,
00:44:53.480 Hochschild
00:44:53.780 transposes
00:44:54.560 EIC
00:44:54.820 efforts
00:44:55.200 against
00:44:55.680 slavery
00:44:56.060 into
00:44:56.300 cruel
00:44:56.580 efforts
00:44:56.900 for
00:44:57.400 rubber.
00:44:57.940 Nice
00:44:59.060 light of
00:44:59.320 hand there,
00:45:00.560 buddy.
00:45:01.940 The reader
00:45:02.320 is lured
00:45:02.980 into believing
00:45:03.740 that every
00:45:04.440 conflict he
00:45:05.080 documents is
00:45:05.840 about the
00:45:06.460 drive for
00:45:06.900 rubber,
00:45:07.340 not the
00:45:08.160 drive against
00:45:08.700 slavery or
00:45:09.680 inter-tribal
00:45:10.460 vendettas,
00:45:11.060 one of many
00:45:11.540 egregious
00:45:12.020 examples we
00:45:13.320 have to
00:45:13.960 suffice.
00:45:15.560 Hochschild
00:45:15.860 describes the
00:45:16.460 EIC
00:45:16.740 officer Leon
00:45:17.720 Fives as
00:45:18.840 a sadist
00:45:19.740 who,
00:45:20.400 quote,
00:45:20.500 terrorized the
00:45:21.520 rubber-rich
00:45:22.160 Equator
00:45:22.680 district where
00:45:23.540 he was
00:45:23.760 commissioner.
00:45:24.420 His sources
00:45:24.880 is the
00:45:25.460 George
00:45:27.080 Brouquet
00:45:27.620 mentioned
00:45:28.340 above.
00:45:29.320 Brouquet
00:45:29.800 lasted only
00:45:30.520 three years
00:45:30.980 in the
00:45:31.180 Congo
00:45:31.360 before dying
00:45:32.020 of either
00:45:32.540 typhoid or
00:45:33.480 malaria.
00:45:35.060 A common
00:45:36.060 occurrence for
00:45:36.640 the EIC
00:45:36.980 where the
00:45:37.620 annual mortality
00:45:38.300 rate for
00:45:38.760 European soldiers
00:45:39.380 was 20%.
00:45:40.480 Shit.
00:45:41.260 They would
00:45:41.460 go down
00:45:41.680 and sacrifice
00:45:42.500 our fucking
00:45:43.560 lives to
00:45:44.460 stop tribal
00:45:46.160 conflicts and
00:45:47.000 slavery and
00:45:47.700 eating hands
00:45:48.640 and whatever
00:45:48.900 fucking crazy
00:45:50.000 shit.
00:45:52.080 And then we
00:45:52.860 get to pay
00:45:53.260 for it.
00:45:53.680 Now we get
00:45:54.060 the pay.
00:45:54.640 Right?
00:45:55.180 Oh,
00:45:55.560 evil European
00:45:56.260 colonialism.
00:45:57.020 This is
00:45:57.240 Western,
00:45:58.000 you know,
00:45:58.540 it's just
00:45:58.900 Holocaust after
00:45:59.640 Holocaust with
00:46:00.320 these people.
00:46:02.260 Incredible.
00:46:04.020 And then again,
00:46:04.560 the diseases
00:46:05.120 take,
00:46:05.460 and then they
00:46:06.200 spin it,
00:46:06.680 right?
00:46:07.500 Typhus,
00:46:08.220 like a
00:46:08.560 dysentery,
00:46:09.700 typhoid,
00:46:10.340 malaria,
00:46:11.220 all these diseases
00:46:11.860 pop up,
00:46:12.380 people die,
00:46:13.240 and then they
00:46:13.840 turn that into,
00:46:14.940 well,
00:46:15.240 this was an
00:46:15.820 official just
00:46:16.700 conveyor belt
00:46:17.580 mass murdering
00:46:18.380 campaign.
00:46:23.280 They are,
00:46:24.240 what are they?
00:46:24.880 They are,
00:46:26.000 liar.
00:46:27.200 That's right.
00:46:29.700 Okay.
00:46:33.820 In the,
00:46:34.480 let me finish
00:46:35.200 this paragraph
00:46:35.620 and then we'll
00:46:36.080 wrap up here.
00:46:36.500 in the 1894
00:46:37.620 incident recalled,
00:46:39.320 Fives is
00:46:39.940 recounting to
00:46:40.600 Briqueux his
00:46:41.820 desperate attempts
00:46:42.720 to feed his
00:46:43.360 soldiers while
00:46:43.960 battling slave
00:46:44.860 lords in the
00:46:45.400 area.
00:46:46.100 There is no
00:46:46.600 mention of
00:46:47.120 rubber because
00:46:47.660 this particular
00:46:48.400 place had
00:46:49.060 little of it.
00:46:50.220 The slaving
00:46:50.740 business, on the
00:46:51.360 other hand,
00:46:51.680 is flourishing,
00:46:52.880 and Briquet notes
00:46:53.580 its devastation
00:46:54.540 everywhere.
00:46:55.480 Fives had
00:46:55.880 arrived a few
00:46:56.340 days earlier
00:46:57.020 and held
00:46:58.340 paraplay with
00:46:59.380 local chiefs.
00:47:00.180 They had
00:47:00.440 agreed to
00:47:01.000 supply his
00:47:01.480 soldiers with
00:47:02.000 food for
00:47:02.480 payment.
00:47:03.380 They then
00:47:03.820 reneged and
00:47:05.500 fled into the
00:47:06.180 forest.
00:47:06.720 Fives sent his
00:47:07.700 troops in
00:47:08.200 pursuit and in
00:47:09.320 the ensuing
00:47:10.080 fight, a
00:47:11.360 hundred of the
00:47:11.900 chief's soldiers
00:47:12.560 were killed.
00:47:13.180 After that, the
00:47:13.860 chiefs made
00:47:14.480 good on their
00:47:15.520 promise.
00:47:16.620 All right.
00:47:17.140 Anyway, it goes
00:47:17.620 on for a little
00:47:18.080 bit here.
00:47:18.420 But yeah,
00:47:18.840 bunch of
00:47:19.700 fucking lies.
00:47:21.060 Bruce Gilley,
00:47:23.780 professor of
00:47:26.540 political science
00:47:27.300 at the Mark
00:47:28.100 O. Hatfield
00:47:29.200 School of
00:47:29.900 Government at
00:47:31.280 Portland State.
00:47:32.620 Holy shit.
00:47:33.960 So if this
00:47:34.400 guy's Portland
00:47:35.000 State, I suspect
00:47:36.680 he'd be fired
00:47:37.640 after this.
00:47:39.680 Imagine my
00:47:40.960 shock, right?
00:47:42.340 Imagine my
00:47:43.080 shock.
00:47:44.000 This bunch of
00:47:45.160 lies and just
00:47:46.280 deceit.
00:47:47.800 And this is
00:47:48.940 why it's so
00:47:49.320 important to look
00:47:50.020 historically.
00:47:51.060 Break these
00:47:51.620 things down.
00:47:52.520 And I know we
00:47:53.420 won't be able to
00:47:53.940 convince everybody.
00:47:55.120 I know that
00:47:56.240 won't happen.
00:47:58.840 But enough to
00:48:00.500 tell the truth
00:48:01.520 to those who
00:48:02.500 are willing to
00:48:03.020 listen, to
00:48:04.880 have them
00:48:05.520 100% once
00:48:07.600 and for all
00:48:08.280 let go of
00:48:09.880 any and all
00:48:11.340 guilt for
00:48:12.660 being white,
00:48:13.800 for our
00:48:14.240 forebears, for
00:48:15.480 what our
00:48:15.860 ancestors did.
00:48:17.100 All of that
00:48:17.820 stuff just needs
00:48:18.540 to go.
00:48:18.880 It needs to go
00:48:19.300 out the window.
00:48:19.680 We did
00:48:21.020 nothing wrong.
00:48:22.760 That's the
00:48:23.300 mantra.
00:48:23.980 We did
00:48:24.460 nothing wrong.
00:48:26.760 We don't have
00:48:27.260 to say, well, we
00:48:27.840 try to improve
00:48:28.500 things.
00:48:28.980 We can, and
00:48:29.960 ironically, that is
00:48:31.660 the truth, right?
00:48:33.160 In many regards,
00:48:34.160 we try to help,
00:48:35.860 but no good deed
00:48:37.160 goes unpunished.
00:48:38.020 And now they're
00:48:38.360 turning it against
00:48:38.920 us.
00:48:39.340 Absolutely incredible.
00:48:40.080 All right.
00:48:43.040 So, we have a
00:48:45.720 couple of more
00:48:46.160 things we can end
00:48:46.860 on here too.
00:48:47.360 Resin Revolt over
00:48:48.180 on Rumble.
00:48:49.020 Excellent
00:48:49.240 presentation.
00:48:50.660 Thoroughly
00:48:50.980 enthralling,
00:48:51.740 informative, and
00:48:52.240 entertaining.
00:48:52.860 Bravo, bravo.
00:48:53.620 Thank you,
00:48:53.940 Resin Revolt.
00:48:54.380 Very kind of
00:48:54.860 you.
00:48:55.320 I appreciate
00:48:55.680 that.
00:48:56.100 Thank you so
00:48:56.420 much for your
00:48:57.140 kind and generous
00:48:58.340 super chat,
00:48:58.940 Resin.
00:48:59.660 Always good to
00:49:00.260 see you, sir.
00:49:01.220 Thank you.
00:49:01.660 Let me check if
00:49:02.140 we have any ones
00:49:03.040 I've missed on
00:49:03.760 Odyssey.
00:49:05.700 The second one,
00:49:06.420 I understand.
00:49:06.960 Sorry for the
00:49:07.260 outburst.
00:49:07.640 It's just, this
00:49:08.240 stuff really gets
00:49:08.700 me.
00:49:08.880 Oh, from
00:49:09.280 earlier?
00:49:09.660 No worries.
00:49:10.120 No, that was a
00:49:10.460 great comment,
00:49:10.920 second one.
00:49:11.320 Thank you.
00:49:12.220 Appreciate that.
00:49:15.460 Tommy Katz,
00:49:16.240 this narrator
00:49:16.720 sounds pathetic.
00:49:17.680 His voice
00:49:18.140 angers me.
00:49:18.960 Is it, who's
00:49:19.940 mine or
00:49:20.460 someone else's?
00:49:22.820 Well, if it's
00:49:23.260 mine, I'm
00:49:23.600 sorry.
00:49:25.520 No, we did
00:49:26.260 that one, and
00:49:27.780 I think we're
00:49:28.340 caught up.
00:49:29.920 So, that was
00:49:31.820 kind of the main
00:49:32.420 meat of what I
00:49:34.360 wanted to cover
00:49:34.800 today.
00:49:36.100 I might just
00:49:36.820 pull that out,
00:49:38.020 make it its own
00:49:38.560 segment or
00:49:38.920 something, so
00:49:39.260 you can share
00:49:39.600 that if you
00:49:39.980 want to send
00:49:40.320 that particular
00:49:40.760 thing.
00:49:41.220 But I remember
00:49:42.180 it vividly.
00:49:43.080 I mean, I
00:49:43.360 started looking
00:49:46.340 into these
00:49:46.680 things after
00:49:47.040 2001 or
00:49:49.520 9-11, the
00:49:50.220 terrorist attacks,
00:49:52.160 the collapse
00:49:53.720 of the towers
00:49:54.560 and that one
00:49:56.020 other building
00:49:56.660 in September
00:49:58.340 of 2001.
00:49:59.300 That's when I
00:49:59.600 began looking
00:50:00.000 into all kinds
00:50:00.500 of stuff,
00:50:01.080 right?
00:50:01.720 Onto this
00:50:02.320 path, trying
00:50:03.000 to find truth
00:50:03.680 and awaken
00:50:04.600 to all these
00:50:05.160 things, right?
00:50:06.000 And along
00:50:06.460 the way,
00:50:07.680 maybe this
00:50:09.460 is like
00:50:09.680 2003, 2004
00:50:11.400 or something
00:50:12.160 like that,
00:50:12.540 maybe a little
00:50:13.260 bit later.
00:50:13.800 It's hard to
00:50:14.420 pin down the
00:50:14.880 exact years
00:50:15.320 there, but I
00:50:16.080 came across
00:50:16.660 that documentary
00:50:17.860 that I mentioned
00:50:18.320 to you.
00:50:20.040 Congo,
00:50:20.500 White King,
00:50:20.960 Red Rubber,
00:50:21.360 Black Death.
00:50:22.320 Oh my God,
00:50:23.100 you know what I
00:50:23.300 mean?
00:50:23.820 And those are
00:50:24.320 the kinds of
00:50:24.700 things that
00:50:25.180 kept me,
00:50:26.040 I mean, I
00:50:26.300 wasn't like
00:50:26.700 anti-white,
00:50:29.180 but it was
00:50:29.480 like this weird
00:50:30.000 kind of like,
00:50:30.360 oh, look at
00:50:30.760 what the
00:50:33.220 royals do,
00:50:35.140 or, you
00:50:35.340 know, kind
00:50:35.620 of thing,
00:50:35.880 whatever.
00:50:37.000 And look,
00:50:37.380 today they
00:50:37.800 don't deserve
00:50:38.240 that praise.
00:50:39.180 It's like
00:50:39.680 clarified in
00:50:40.200 the segment
00:50:41.400 on King
00:50:42.400 Charles,
00:50:42.960 you know,
00:50:43.140 his World
00:50:43.460 Economic Forum
00:50:44.040 super diverse
00:50:45.140 coronation in
00:50:45.960 the latest
00:50:46.340 Western Warrior.
00:50:47.660 Check that
00:50:47.940 out, by the
00:50:48.180 way, if you
00:50:48.440 haven't seen
00:50:48.700 it yet.
00:50:49.580 Went through
00:50:50.060 the WF
00:50:51.280 King here
00:50:51.720 going through
00:50:54.860 his coronation.
00:50:56.540 They don't
00:50:57.220 deserve it,
00:50:57.960 but these
00:50:58.540 guys back
00:50:59.120 then, this
00:50:59.620 is like
00:50:59.920 1800s,
00:51:01.260 early 1900s.
00:51:03.340 I think
00:51:03.920 there are
00:51:04.140 much better
00:51:04.900 regions than
00:51:05.700 anyone in
00:51:07.080 the few
00:51:07.340 remaining
00:51:07.580 European
00:51:07.880 royal families
00:51:08.460 have today.
00:51:09.260 These were
00:51:09.660 probably genuinely
00:51:11.020 good men that
00:51:11.880 tried to do
00:51:12.300 good things,
00:51:12.860 and they
00:51:13.080 tried to
00:51:13.400 improve,
00:51:14.380 and they
00:51:14.740 figured,
00:51:15.180 you know what
00:51:15.400 I mean,
00:51:15.520 like they
00:51:15.840 came down
00:51:16.680 to Africa,
00:51:17.280 they saw
00:51:17.640 clearly these
00:51:18.240 people have
00:51:18.680 done nothing
00:51:19.200 with it.
00:51:21.160 We'll bring
00:51:22.240 them civilized,
00:51:22.940 we'll help
00:51:23.420 them out,
00:51:23.760 we'll bring
00:51:24.100 them civilization,
00:51:25.200 right?
00:51:25.600 Maybe we can
00:51:26.180 stop the
00:51:26.640 slave trade.
00:51:27.120 It was like
00:51:27.320 this, and
00:51:27.880 you have to
00:51:28.480 understand,
00:51:28.880 Britain today
00:51:31.640 is accused of
00:51:32.440 slave trade,
00:51:33.660 and blah,
00:51:34.040 blah, blah.
00:51:34.440 They were the
00:51:34.780 first to end
00:51:35.440 it, and
00:51:35.740 they went on
00:51:36.180 a ruthless
00:51:36.720 campaign,
00:51:37.800 sacrificing their
00:51:38.820 own lives to
00:51:40.540 end it in
00:51:41.180 other parts of
00:51:41.780 the world.
00:51:42.560 There's still
00:51:43.120 slave trade
00:51:43.800 today in some
00:51:44.780 of these parts,
00:51:45.400 still to this
00:51:46.080 day.
00:51:46.780 It's so
00:51:47.360 ingrained.
00:51:49.720 And it's
00:51:50.220 almost like,
00:51:50.820 if you're
00:51:51.260 going to guilt
00:51:51.680 us for just
00:51:52.340 trying to
00:51:53.000 help,
00:51:54.000 why should
00:51:55.360 we at this
00:51:56.000 point?
00:51:56.220 I get that
00:51:58.780 adventurous
00:51:59.780 spirit they
00:52:00.420 had at that
00:52:00.760 time,
00:52:01.080 they wanted
00:52:01.340 to chain
00:52:02.440 stuff,
00:52:03.000 they wanted
00:52:03.200 to colonize,
00:52:04.720 we're not
00:52:04.880 seeing as
00:52:05.220 some rape
00:52:05.980 of the
00:52:06.260 real,
00:52:06.400 this was
00:52:06.700 seen as
00:52:07.000 not yet
00:52:09.460 undeveloped,
00:52:10.780 raw nature,
00:52:12.360 and even
00:52:13.920 people to
00:52:16.200 form, to
00:52:17.100 shape, to
00:52:17.780 help out,
00:52:18.380 we can
00:52:18.980 teach and
00:52:19.600 build schools
00:52:20.600 and universities
00:52:21.620 and we'll
00:52:22.140 build railroad
00:52:22.780 tracks and
00:52:23.500 we'll bring
00:52:23.860 these buildings
00:52:24.640 to them,
00:52:25.200 we'll bring
00:52:25.580 Palladian
00:52:26.020 architecture
00:52:26.620 there and
00:52:27.040 classic
00:52:27.500 buildings from
00:52:30.760 antiquity,
00:52:31.600 stuff.
00:52:33.020 I genuinely
00:52:33.520 think it was
00:52:33.960 based on
00:52:34.700 those kinds
00:52:35.520 of aspirations.
00:52:36.300 And then
00:52:36.520 later on,
00:52:38.540 it goes
00:52:39.380 sour, it
00:52:39.860 doesn't succeed
00:52:40.460 in all areas,
00:52:41.040 and now
00:52:41.940 we have a
00:52:42.280 bunch of
00:52:42.800 activists
00:52:43.520 and anti-whites
00:52:44.900 and Jews
00:52:45.960 and leftists
00:52:47.280 and racially
00:52:48.840 motivated people
00:52:49.660 who hate whites,
00:52:50.560 who hate
00:52:50.800 Western civilization,
00:52:52.000 weaponizing this
00:52:53.060 against us.
00:52:56.240 It's a
00:52:57.400 travesty,
00:52:58.300 but we just
00:52:58.780 have to let
00:52:59.900 go of that
00:53:00.300 guilt.
00:53:01.280 And we're in
00:53:02.080 the situation
00:53:02.540 we are today
00:53:03.400 partially because
00:53:04.380 of those kinds
00:53:04.880 of things and
00:53:05.280 how they've
00:53:05.760 spun that
00:53:07.120 history.
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