Ep 1083 | Maverick City Music: Christlike or Compromised?
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My book, Toxic Empathy, is out today, and we will discuss that on this episode of Relatable. Plus, the porn industry is going all in on Kamala Harris, and Bill Clinton actually said something true about immigration. We ve got all that, plus my book, Toxpositivism: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.
Transcript
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Christian group Maverick City Music is on a rap album that includes other rappers like Megan Thee Stallion and Sexy Red.
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They're receiving criticism for this, and I've got my take.
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Also, the pornography industry is going all in for Kamala Harris, and Bill Clinton actually said something true about immigration.
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We've got all this, plus my book Toxic Empathy is out today, and we will discuss that on this episode of Relatable.
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It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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It is launch day for Toxic Empathy, and I just want to say thank you already to those of you who have been praying,
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who have been encouraging, who have been supporting, who pre-ordered the book.
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I always say that I have the best audience in the world, and it's because I do.
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I got to meet so many of you at Share the Arrows, and I got to see your kindness,
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your generosity, your gentleness, your goodness up close and personal.
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And I'm just reminded so often that you guys are the best.
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You're just the best salt-of-the-earth people, and I'm very grateful for you.
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If you haven't purchased my book, Toxic Empathy, How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion,
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You can purchase through Amazon, and you'll be able to get it really quickly.
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It's also available on a Kindle version, or if you are like me in this season of my life
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and you listen to books, I read the Audible version.
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So it's available on all of those different platforms.
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And we go through the five biggest lies of progressivism that are, believe it or not,
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extremely persuasive to a lot of people, especially those who identify as Christians,
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and in particular Christian women, and those lies are abortion is health care, trans women
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are women, love is love, no human is illegal, social justice is justice.
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And you know, I've been posting on X for the past couple days just about the book, encouraging
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And one of my posts, I guess, got on the wrong side of X, on the progressive side of X, and
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they're very, very angry about what they have no idea about when it comes to the content
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These are people telling me that this book is anti-Jesus, that it's anti-biblical, that
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it is dangerous, fascist, theocratic nonsense, and that I should read the Bible, that I should
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Because as I saw someone say very poignantly in one of my replies, Jesus was woke as F,
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And you know, the quote tweets from people who claim that, of course, I and other conservative
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Christians are on the side of cruelty and meanness are telling me some interesting things about
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I had one reply that said that I should be sent to a re-education camp.
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I had another reply that told me that I am just adding this to the Christian library of
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Many people are telling me to go F myself simply because of the title of this book.
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And they're very angry about the last two lies that I point out, that no human is illegal
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Many of these who claim to be progressive Christians or progressive secularists who claim to know
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more about Christianity than Christians do say that these are core tenets of Christian
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And I had one person reply and say, you know, what do you mean by these things?
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And I said, you know, you can read the book and find out, which made a lot of people angry.
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So understand that progressives don't want people to read this book.
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The title alone makes them angry, which wasn't my intention.
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But I could see when you worship on the altar of the God of self and you have claimed that
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empathy is simply feeling what someone feels is the highest virtue, that this can feel like
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blasphemy to you, but it's actually not about discounting or negating love and compassion.
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It's analyzing what does compassion actually look like?
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Not just outsourcing our compassion to the government, not just tweeting about social justice
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causes, not just saying these catchy circular mantras, which sound good, but are ultimately very
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harmful when it comes to the policies that they encourage and advocate for.
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What does real compassion, real kindness truly look like?
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Not just personally, but also in the policies that we support.
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They are conflating empathy and the love to which Christians are called.
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But as we've said many times, true love is inextricably intertwined with the truth.
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1 Corinthians 13, 6 makes that very clear, that love never rejoices in wrongdoing, but
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And because of that, he gets to say what it is and what it isn't.
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He gets to define all things for us because as Genesis 1, 1 tells us, he is the creator of
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all things, therefore he is the authority over all things.
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So we get to go to him to tell us what's right, what's wrong, what's good, what's bad, what's
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I'm certainly not the arbiter of those things, but I am doing my best as a Christian, as a
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mom, as a woman navigating the craziness and chaos of our culture to find clarity in factual,
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observable reality and logical truth in history, but most importantly in God's word.
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These are five very complex, very controversial subjects, and I break it down in a way that
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It took a long time to write because actually condensing so much information and simplifying
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a lot of complex information takes a lot of time and takes a lot of effort, but that was
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really important for me because I knew you'd be getting it only a couple weeks before the
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election, and I wanted you to be able to read it in time to have the conversations that matter.
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As we talked about yesterday, there are tens of millions of Christians who are not planning
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to vote in this election because they don't realize what's at stake.
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They don't realize their responsibility as Christians, that they're not supposed to be
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looking for a perfect candidate, that we are voting for the party or we're voting for the
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person whose platform and set of policy prescriptions will best mitigate evil.
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And even though this book isn't only about policy, it's not just about this election.
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This really informs people and is meant to inform Christians about the issues that are at stake
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that really affect predominantly disproportionately children.
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And actually, I was just reminded of a part in the conclusion where I talk about this, that
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And that's really where we are, where Christians were in ancient Rome 2,000 years ago, seeing
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infants die by abortion, infanticide exposure, seeing them sexually objectified, seeing all
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kinds of people other than the adult free male really dehumanized, sexual degeneracy, gender
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That's the culture that Christians walked into with a radical new way of seeing the Imago
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And really, the conclusion is the most important part of the book, because this is where we lay
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They're always the most vulnerable prey to Satan's schemes, mentally and physically less
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Children don't have the tools to defend themselves against the more powerful.
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They are easily moldable for better and for worse.
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Parents are to offer spiritual, mental, and physical protection to their children, while
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Satan and his cohorts will always seek their spiritual, mental, and physical destruction.
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And then I go through, really, the history of how the world has treated children and how
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In all of this craziness, in all of this desperation and destitution that we see, it seems like
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on an everyday basis, it's just so overwhelming.
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We won't have to worry about it because there will be no one to manipulate us and nothing
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There will be no more debates, no more politics.
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There will be no more abortion, no more gender confusion or perversion.
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There will be no more migration, no asylum seeking or fleeing for refuge.
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There will be no more injustice, murder, or oppression.
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All the wretched, bloody, brokenness humanity has endured since Adam and Eve took that fateful
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bite of the forbidden fruit will come to an end.
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We will once again walk in unhindered communion with our Creator.
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At the end of this mess, Jesus comes in on a white horse and avenges innocent blood.
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The serpent's head will be crushed and all God's children, all those who have been made
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alive in Christ by grace through faith will live with him in perfect joy forever.
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And if nothing else comes out of this book, if there is no other message received or that
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And if it's just one person who hears that or understands it for the first time, and that's
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Then all the unfair criticism will be worth it.
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We have a segment in this book about receiving unfair criticism because if you echo what is
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said in this book, you will not only get criticism, but people will malign you.
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And I just want to remind you that all of that, no matter how small in comparison to big, bloody
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persecution that is being endured by Christians around the world, that all of that counts, that
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is still creating for us, contributing to, for us, a far greater glory that outweighs all
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of the trials and the pushback that we are enduring today.
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And it's just a reminder too, to not judge your obedience, your faithfulness by other
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Stephen, the great evangelist, simply shared the gospel to the audience before him.
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Why do we expect to be treated better when we are also sharing inconvenient and uncomfortable
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truth to those who are following the spirit of this age, the prince of the power of the
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air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience, Ephesians 2 says.
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So we should expect at least some pushback, no matter how nice we are.
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A lot of you are probably fans of Maverick City music.
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And for good reason, they are incredibly talented.
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They are fantastic when it comes to just the vocal talent they're bringing, the songwriting
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And they have just skyrocketed in fame over the last few years.
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But they have also received a lot of criticism, both for some of the members' left-wing political
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stances that they've been pretty outspoken about, as well as what seems like compromising
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You can decide if you think that this is compromise or if this is just them getting more of their
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Right now, the criticism is surrounding their partnership with Glowrilla.
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She's got a rap debut album that features Christian artists.
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And some of the lyrics that she has on this album are kind of Christian, or at least they
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And then some other lyrics are extremely explicit.
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And so I'll read you some of those without the explicit language.
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Christians were shocked to see the collaboration with gospel musicians sandwiched between other
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And I'm talking about Kirk Franklin and Maverick City Music, Kiara Shurd, Chandler Moore.
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Chandler Moore is a member of Maverick City Music.
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Other songs on her album include collaborations with artists like Megan Thee Stallion.
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I couldn't tell you one of Megan Thee Stallion's songs.
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Do you know one of Megan Thee Stallion's songs, Brie?
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I'm sure I would know it like if I heard it, but I could not name you one, though.
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She, I feel like maybe she did something with Cardi B.
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Literally the only reason I, cameraman says what?
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The only reason I know about the song WAP is literally because of Ben Shapiro.
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And she also sang, I think, at the Atlanta Kamala Harris rally a few months ago, like right
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after Kamala Harris announced that she was running.
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I'm pretty sure it was like a whole twerking fest in Atlanta with Megan Thee Stallion.
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The first time I saw Sexy Red, like circulated on X, I thought this is not real.
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She rose to prominence with the release of her explicit 2023 single, Pound Town.
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Glorilla, whose real name is Gloria Hallelujah Woods.
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On the Tamron Hall show earlier this year, the rapper said she initially planned to become
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a gospel singer and that she and her mother pray for each other.
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I always have to put God first in whatever I do and not let too much negativity get to me.
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She shared with Hall that she still holds her faith close to her, even if her music might not seem that way.
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Well, that's sad because God has obviously given her a talent and she had this wonderful privilege of
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being raised in a Christian home and going to church.
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A lot of people don't have parents that bring them to church and teach them about the Word of God.
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And so she has now decided not to use the talent that God has given her for his glory, but for her own.
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Here are some examples of the lyrics of the songs that are on this album alongside some Christian singer collaborators.
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I think it's like hold on, but it's all one word, H-O-L-L-O-N.
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I won't say the actual cuss words, but even the non-cuss words are not really that are not great.
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Swipe that B and now dispute the charges on gang.
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I can't even say the next part because it's not cuss words.
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So she just says that over and over again with Sexy Red.
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And then another song, How I Look with Megan Thee Stallion.
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How I Look F-ing on an N word that got less than me.
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How I Look calling B words that can't get next to me.
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How I Look checking for an N word that don't check for me.
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So I know that some of you are going to be like,
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I think it's important for you to know what I'm talking about when I say how crazy it is
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Because I know some of you out there are going to be like, don't be judgmental.
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They're just collaborating, trying to maybe bring her and her listeners closer to God.
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But I mean, what association does light have with darkness?
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I'm just not sure that an actual collaboration is the way to share the gospel with her and her listeners.
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You could actually just share the gospel with her and her listeners.
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It does seem like, it seems like, and maybe this is not what they meant to do.
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So I would love to give the benefit of the doubt.
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But it almost does seem like an endorsement of the album when you are a part of this.
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You had to know Sexy Red and Megan Thee Stallion are going to be on this album.
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So here's one of the songs that's with Maverick City Music called Rain Down On Me.
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It's extremely narcissistic prosperity gospel theology.
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So it's not even right to say, well, at least like there's one solid gospel song on there.
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And this is when you look at the Bible and look at theology and only see yourself.
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Watch over my family, Lord, and watch over all my partners.
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And even though he hate me, Lord, watch over my baby father.
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Protect me from the evil that I can't see with my eyes.
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And if it's any blessing blockers around me, help me cut them ties in Jesus's name.
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See, this is very sad because this is treating Jesus, the God of the universe, as a genie that just does what you want him to do, that is there to grant your wishes and to give you prosperity and to shower your life with blessings.
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Even though, at least according to the other songs that are on there, you are not living in accordance with his word.
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And that's not to say that he doesn't love you, that he doesn't want good things for you.
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But because he loves you and because he wants good things for you, he doesn't want you to live a life of sexual degeneracy.
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He doesn't want you to be giving your body to people who aren't your husband.
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He doesn't want you to be promoting this promiscuity, which really hurts you and hurts relationships, hurts your body, hurts your heart, hurts your soul, hurts your mind.
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Obviously, it has a negative impact on your child.
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I mean, your child who has a father who hates his mother.
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I was asked the other day, like, if you could change one thing that's going on in the world, if you would solve one problem, what would it be?
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If people just stopped having sex outside of marriage, so many of our problems would end overnight.
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And any album, I don't care if it's a country album, if it's a rap album, if it's a pop album, I don't care if it's Taylor Swift, I don't care if it's Glorilla.
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Any album that is promoting this kind of degeneracy and darkness is sad, and it's not something that we should support, and we should not give a pass to people just because it's rap.
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Just as we shouldn't give a pass to people just because it's Taylor Swift.
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And I know I'm going to get people out there saying that this is racist to even talk about.
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Okay, you can go back and you can watch my Taylor Swift episodes where I criticize her lyrics, and also I got a kick out of reading some of her silly lyrics out loud too.
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No, the truth is that actually I think a lot of Christians don't treat Black people or Black people who say that they're Christians as full people in the sense that they don't think that they have the same responsibility or the same agency, the same ability to repent of their sins and to follow the Word of God as other Christians do.
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It's like the standard is lower or the gospel is different or repentance and holiness isn't as necessary.
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The truth is all people, no matter your culture, no matter your skin color, no matter your class, no matter your background, if you are a Christian, we are all called to the same self-denial, to take up our cross, to follow Christ, to treat our bodies as temples of the Holy Spirit, and to act and speak and sing in a way that glorifies Him.
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That doesn't mean that we're going to be perfect, and I'm not expecting that of this person or Maverick City Music, but I do expect us at the very least to not be promoting the things that God hates, and He hates them because He loves us.
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So I hope that Glorilla will repent and remember the faith that she was raised with and see that Christ is the star, He is the prize, He is the blessing, not the things that she wants, her fame, her success.
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And I pray the same thing for Sexy Red and Megan Thee Stallion because they are promoting a kind of degeneracy that is just so harmful on both an individual and societal level.
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Okay, so some of these artists are responding to the backlash that they've received because there has been some backlash on social media.
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In an October 8th interview with Hotspot Atlanta, Franklin seemingly discussed his recent collaboration with Glorilla.
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He didn't actually say her name, but he said, you know,
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choosing collaborative projects is still something that I'm trying to figure out.
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I'm just always grateful that people want to work with me, saying there's not one set formula for every individual.
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The musician added that he always tries to determine what he can contribute to a project that can either elevate it or inspire it.
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And Kiera Sherd posted on Instagram, I'm super blessed to be a part of Glorilla Pimp's new song, Rain Down On Me.
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I pray all who are listening are hearing the message of hope, faith, and Jesus Christ.
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But I already read the lyrics to that song, and it's not the gospel.
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It's just about what God can give you as the star of the show.
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So Maverick City Music has yet to make a statement.
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In an October 11th YouTube video, host of Not Just Sunday podcast Nick Vaughn-Jones expressed dismay at the mind-blowing irony of Rain Down On Me.
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The rest of the album's lyrics are as explicit and vulgar and disgusting as it gets.
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He said, you celebrate sin and glorify sin for seven songs, and then all of a sudden you want to insert a praise break as if that's going to save you.
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You need to repent. On social media, fans shared mixed reactions to Christian artists participating in the album.
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One wondered if it was a prank, while another wrote, I don't know if this is what the Bible meant by set apart.
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Someone asked, how is Maverick City on the same album as Sexy Red? Like, what are we doing?
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All other people said Christians should stop judging. You're not God. You're not perfect.
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But if God's ways are better, and if we love God, and we want good things for people,
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then that means we're not going to be excited about supporting an album that promotes sin and harmful things.
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Someone else wrote, Jesus frequently collaborated with sinners.
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We have no idea what God has called these artists to do.
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Christianity is about sharing the good news of the Savior to those who need it most.
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Okay, Jesus was not collabing with the woman at the well.
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In fact, he very explicitly, some people today would probably say harshly,
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called her out on her sin and told her these things about herself that,
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unless he was God, he really had no way of knowing.
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Said, yeah, you actually have multiple husbands, because she was an adulterer,
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And here I am, the living water, so you will never thirst again.
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And he told her, when she asked, you know, basically, are you God?
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Are you the one that people have been waiting for?
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So he shared the gospel with her, called her to repentance, called out her sin.
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That's something that people forget, that when Jesus was dining with the tax collectors
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and the prostitutes, when he was interacting with the woman who was caught in adultery,
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when he was healing the sick, yes, he was meeting material needs in many cases,
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but he was also calling these people to faith and repentance,
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because he didn't only care about their bodies.
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He also cared about their hearts and their souls, because that's what real love is.
00:33:36.540
Christians are called to be as wise as serpents, but innocent as doves.
00:33:43.220
It's not judging someone hypocritically, because that's really what we are told not to do in
00:33:52.100
We're not to condemn someone for something that we are guilty of, but we absolutely should
00:33:58.480
be able to discern right from wrong, truth from a lie, and light from darkness.
00:34:03.240
That's part of the wisdom that God promises to give us when we ask for it in the book of James.
00:34:09.940
And so, no, Jesus was not collabing with sinners.
00:34:15.860
As I said earlier, this is not the first time Maverick City Music has caught some flack.
00:34:21.500
In June of 2021, they released an album titled Jubilee Juneteenth Edition.
00:34:29.340
The single Breathe won the GMA Dove Award for Gospel Worship Recorded Song of the Year.
00:34:36.640
It was written in 2021 as the trial for Derek Chauvin was taking place.
00:34:41.260
Maverick City's Chandler Moore responded to the verdict of Derek Chauvin with the release of the song
00:34:46.420
Breathe, inspired by Floyd's final words, speaks of the urgent call to use the breath God has given us
00:34:57.520
And so, after the George Floyd incident, there were also members of the band that posted in support
00:35:07.240
of Black Lives Matter, also the drummer for Maverick City Music, Harold Brown, in June of 2022, following
00:35:16.920
the release of the Dobbs decision, posted a picture that said over and over and over again,
00:35:23.520
men shouldn't be making laws about women's bodies.
00:35:28.020
Since the Instagram story was deleted, many of Brown's followers posted responses from both
00:35:35.600
sides of the abortion issue. The comments were posted to his other Instagram photos.
00:35:40.820
I can't believe everyone and their mom was in these comments, steady judging and not even
00:35:44.300
rightfully judging at that. Someone said, thank you for your support for women. Someone else said,
00:35:50.140
God hates lukewarm Christians and hands that shed innocent blood. Dante Bowe, a former member of
00:35:58.040
Maverick City Music, released a controversial solo album in July 2023. One of the album or one of the
00:36:04.460
songs was called Wind Me Up, and the music video features dozens of scantily clad women partying
00:36:10.120
it up and sexual poses while the lyrics are about desire, companionship, and lust. Show me, show me,
00:36:17.660
show me, show me, show me, show me, love, girl. You take my mind into a next world. You're the best
00:36:22.080
love me ever get. Okay? So it's so hard to say I, and I don't want you as my ex-girl. So Maverick City
00:36:35.140
Music, with as much talent as they have and that I appreciate and have benefited from, like there's just a
00:36:42.100
lot, there's a lot going on there. People also criticized them back in June because they sang
00:36:52.840
with rapper Will Smith at the BET Awards in a performance that critics said was very dark,
00:36:59.160
fiery, demonic. Smith premiered his single, You Can Make It, on a dark, smoke-filled stage,
00:37:05.620
standing in a circle of fire with a small choir of vocalists in a raised semicircle behind him.
00:37:10.720
The performance incorporated the sound of the gospel choir and solos by Kirk Franklin
00:37:14.480
and Maverick City Music, including the Christian musicians, seemed to many to be only a superficial
00:37:21.620
inclusion in a message that was only vaguely spiritual, referring to heaven and hell,
00:37:25.560
but focused on personal struggle and triumph. Again, we've got that Nars of Jesus. So
00:37:30.060
there's just a lot, there's just a lot going on there. A lot of interesting political positions,
00:37:36.340
not interesting, of course, I say that kind of sarcastically, but bad political positions,
00:37:41.760
and it just seems like a lot of unnecessary partnership with the world that comes across
00:37:47.620
as promotion and endorsement. And so, you know, I want Christian artists and Christian groups to
00:37:55.880
follow God and to walk in repentance and to set a steady example of being true to God's word.
00:38:02.660
And I'm so thankful for the Christian artists and groups out there that not only base every single
00:38:08.520
lyric on the word of God, but their entire lives. Because in a way, you guys are leaders,
00:38:15.080
you guys are teachers, and music has such a special way of getting into people's hearts and changing
00:38:21.700
people's minds, both for better and for worse. I think that's why Satan has such a hold on the music
00:38:28.040
industry and also doesn't really surprise me about what's going on here. He wants to see
00:38:33.780
these artists compromise because he knows this is a really easy way to manipulate people
00:38:39.600
into being further from the Lord. And so just take care. And we all should take care of the,
00:38:48.140
you know, the music that we are listening to as well, and the people that we're supporting.
00:38:53.520
It's making me certainly think twice about listening to Promises by Maverick City Music. And I think I
00:39:01.260
even, you know, I even shared it on Instagram once. And now I'm like, oh, probably shouldn't have done
00:39:07.380
that. So I'm in the same boat with you guys thinking about the music that not only we're listening to,
00:39:12.940
but also promoting. All right. We've got this crazy story about Kamala Harris and the campaign that she
00:39:21.560
is trying to launch right now that her campaign is doing with pornography. What, what, what are we
00:39:31.520
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slash Stuckey. Okay, I saw this reported by the Daily Signal on October 10th. Hands off my porn
00:41:33.280
campaign pushes voters toward Kamala Harris. The hands off my porn campaign, a coalition of
00:41:39.220
pornography producers, distributors and performers is spending $100,000 to run ads online to encourage
00:41:45.820
porn users to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris. The campaign claims it is not coordinated by the
00:41:52.260
Harris Walls campaign. So let me clarify that. I think I said that wrong earlier. It's not coordinated
00:41:57.560
by the Harris Walls campaign, but many political strategists think that's not true. Okay, so we'll
00:42:03.340
get into that back and forth in a minute. So we'll show you the picture of what this campaign looks like
00:42:11.260
here. Don't let them control what you watch. Vote for Kamala Harris. Conservatives are planning to
00:42:20.500
criminalize porn. Don't let them control what you watch. Well, don't threaten me with good time
00:42:27.280
because there are some of us who do want pornography to be illegal because, duh, it is the legal loophole
00:42:34.960
for sex trafficking and even child sex trafficking. There's just not good safeguards. It doesn't count as
00:42:40.300
free speech. It clearly should count as obscenity. The Supreme Court has been unhelpful in this regard,
00:42:48.200
and there's been a lot of back and forth over the past several, several decades on what is considered
00:42:55.060
obscene, what is considered free speech. And look, I really believe in free speech. I think free speech is
00:43:00.860
vital to our country. I think it is necessary, especially for people of faith, especially for people like me
00:43:08.060
who say things that the mainstream considers controversial. But pornography is not speech. It's not free speech.
00:43:15.760
It shouldn't be. I know the Supreme Court, many on the Supreme Court have apparently disagreed,
00:43:21.820
but it is the legal loophole for sex trafficking and child sex trafficking, and it would only benefit
00:43:29.500
society if it was really, really, really hard to get. And some people say, oh, well, it's just going to go
00:43:34.600
on the dark web. Good. Make it as difficult as possible to access. I think that that would be a good thing.
00:43:41.320
Um, what do we always say about the left? When they're talking about freedom, what are they
00:43:46.200
talking about? Two things. They're only talking about two things. They're talking about sexual
00:43:50.620
degeneracy and abortion. And there's a lot that falls into that, that falls under that sexual
00:43:56.700
degeneracy piece. They're talking about the freedom of teachers to teach your kids about changing their
00:44:03.960
bodies in accordance to their fictional gender identity. The freedom of schools to have pornographic
00:44:11.900
and LGBTQ affirmative, uh, curriculum and books in elementary school libraries.
00:44:22.680
That's what they're talking about. The freedom to be celebrated, affirmed, and subsidized
00:44:29.360
in your quest to buy a child. If you're two men buying the eggs of one woman, renting the womb
00:44:37.480
of another woman, they're talking about sexual degeneracy and abortion when they're talking about
00:44:44.420
freedom. They're not talking about your first and second amendment rights. They're not talking about
00:44:49.220
your bodily autonomy to choose what vaccines go into your body. That's not what they're talking about.
00:44:55.300
They're only talking about sin. They're only talking about sexual degeneracy and abortion when
00:45:01.660
they're talking about freedom. This is another great example of that. The advertisement claims
00:45:06.280
that the Trump administration will ban porn if he is elected again, a claim that is based on policy
00:45:11.760
recommendations in the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. Of course, Trump has repeatedly disavowed
00:45:18.080
this and, uh, here is a thought of this campaign. I'm Holly Randall and I've been working in the adult
00:45:25.080
industry for over 25 years. I need to address the threat of Project 2025. Over 140 Trump appointees got
00:45:33.360
together and wrote a roadmap for his next term in office and decided that one of their top priorities
00:45:38.800
is to outlaw pornography. The only thing that outlawing porn will do is drive it underground and that's
00:45:45.760
when things get dangerous. So visit handsoffmyporn.com. Learn the facts, listen to women, and vote.
00:45:54.120
The Trump allies in this campaign are labeled weirdos in the ad. That's rich coming from pornos.
00:46:02.240
Okay? You're not going to convince me that the weirdos are the dad and the granddad with the kids
00:46:11.540
and the grandkids and the normal families who are trying to get people to live their lives.
00:46:16.360
You're not going to convince me that the weirdos are the Christians simply trying to protect the
00:46:21.940
most vulnerable and build a functional society. Like, there is nothing positive about pornography.
00:46:28.620
It is only destructive. It is only detrimental both to the individual, also to the family,
00:46:34.160
and then also to society. It is mentioned, the outlawing of porn is mentioned in the Ford of
00:46:41.760
Project 2025, but it's not actually a policy prescription. This is the opinion of President
00:46:48.140
Kevin Roberts when he is discussing sexualized book in schools. He says this, pornography should
00:46:55.460
be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians
00:47:00.360
who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. I love that. I completely agree with
00:47:06.120
that. Trump probably doesn't agree with that. He's not associated with Project 2025 at all.
00:47:13.440
I think that, I mean, I haven't read the entirety of Project 2025, but we did do a deep dive on it,
00:47:19.800
and I have read most of it. And most of it is very mainstream conservative stuff. It's not any of
00:47:25.560
the scary theocratic stuff that you are seeing from the left. A lot of it,
00:47:30.360
that the left is talking about. They're just straight up lying about it.
00:47:35.340
While the fact of porn expenditures themselves is shocking, Megan Kilgannon, senior fellow at the
00:47:44.000
Family Research Council, said, the messaging around Project 2025 and the targeting of swing states
00:47:50.020
would lead one to believe that these ads are coordinated with the Democratic National Committee
00:47:55.140
and the Harris campaign. It would be better to promise lower taxes, lower prices, more jobs.
00:48:01.900
But since Harris Walls is not credible on those topics, it's not surprising that the expert fear
00:48:07.520
mongers at DNC would supplement their dire abortion messaging to women with porn-based ads for men.
00:48:13.440
So those are the messages they have for you. This party who claims to be pro-woman,
00:48:20.160
here's the promise they have for you. They will ensure that men can have access to fueling their
00:48:28.640
porn addictions, which makes them sexually dysfunctional and more likely to be violent
00:48:33.580
and more likely to cheat, to actually physically cheat, not just mentally and imaginatively cheat
00:48:41.480
through pornography. And women, don't worry, will make sure that you can kill your child.
00:48:48.220
That is the explicit platform of the Democrat Party. More porn, more abortions. It is a party of
00:48:54.960
death and destruction. You're not going to tell me this is the party of the least of these,
00:49:00.400
the party of the most vulnerable and the marginalized, the anti-racist, poor, pro-impoverished,
00:49:08.860
compassionate, empathetic party. It's a party of destruction and chaos and decay. And it's so
00:49:15.300
hard for me to see how someone can't see that and how a Nashville pastor like Ray Ortlund, who I know
00:49:22.460
knows his Bible, can endorse something like this, can endorse Kamala Harris. Really?
00:49:28.760
Go back and listen to yesterday's episode or watch it if you haven't already.
00:49:36.080
Just to reiterate, porn's destruction and why big porn is on Kamala Harris's side. Let's look at some
00:49:45.220
of the laws that have actually been passed. Over a third of U.S. states, including North Carolina and
00:49:50.040
Georgia, have enacted age verification laws to prevent minors from accessing online porn.
00:49:54.560
And pornography behemoth Pornhub has outright stopped operating in many of those states.
00:50:00.020
So if we have to make sure that children can't see porn, Pornhub is saying, well, we're just going
00:50:07.860
to take our ball and go home. We're not even going to operate in those states. Huh? That tells us
00:50:13.000
something about their priorities. When Utah passed age verification laws last year, Pornhub's parent
00:50:18.700
company then called MindGeek, now called ALO, blocked access in Utah to Pornhub and a number
00:50:24.540
of other pornographic websites it owned. So they're so mad about this that children might have a harder
00:50:29.860
time accessing porn on Pornhub that they said, OK, we're not going to allow anyone to access it,
00:50:35.820
which I, of course, think is a huge win in those states. And they know that porn addicted men will be
00:50:43.100
so angry about this that they will put pressure on their legislators to try to take away these age
00:50:49.360
verification laws so Pornhub will come back. Pornhub has also shut down in Arkansas, Louisiana,
00:50:54.480
Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Texas, and Virginia. Praise God. When internet users visit
00:50:59.320
the site, they are now met with a message criticizing the state's laws barring minors
00:51:02.920
from accessing porn and urging porn users to contact their state representatives to complain.
00:51:07.960
Wow. Here's why these laws matter. Child protection and anti-trafficking advocates have
00:51:14.380
observed that pornography creates a heightened demand for human trafficking, including child
00:51:18.200
trafficking. Of course it does. You know, some of the most popular videos and categories on Pornhub
00:51:23.960
have to do with children or have to do with teens and have to do with possibly adults dressing up like
00:51:31.800
children. It's sick. Pornhub and its parent company admitted in federal court last year that the
00:51:37.900
companies profit from illegal sex trafficking. Pornhub hosted videos from a sex trafficking
00:51:43.000
pornography production company and profited from those videos. In January, investigative journalist
00:51:49.860
Arden Young, we've had her on the podcast. We'll link this episode from Sound Investigations came on
00:51:55.300
came on the show and discussed her expose series on Pornhub and a series of eight videos. She went
00:52:01.660
undercover to find out the truth about Pornhub's practices. They admitted that porn is in fact
00:52:07.100
addictive. They're fully aware of rapists and pedophiles using loopholes to upload illegal
00:52:12.300
content. And then her investigation also found that Pornhub's employees admit that they target
00:52:18.440
pedophiles in the company's advertising. Pornhub execs have also admitted that they purposely
00:52:26.480
try to reel in porn users, male porn users who typically only look at, you know, heterosexual content.
00:52:34.720
They try to target them with trans advertising and with homosexual advertising to try to get them
00:52:41.320
addicted to that kind of pornography. They're doing Satan's work every day in the darkest and most
00:52:49.680
demonic form. And what side of the aisle is this industry on? The same side of the aisle of Call Her
00:52:57.640
Daddy, the same side of the aisle as Planned Parenthood. Of course, child sacrifice and sexual
00:53:05.560
degeneracy always go hand in hand. And these industries that profit from those things love Kamala Harris.
00:53:14.080
Not the guy who everyone says has the sexually sorted past because he does, but not the guy who everyone
00:53:23.200
says is awful, is terrible, is the antichrist himself that we can't vote for because of his
00:53:30.280
own personal past. Look, I'm looking at the policies. I'm looking at the worst industry, the worst
00:53:37.080
organizations, the worst people in the world and which side they're on. Like that alone, I think,
00:53:44.020
makes it pretty darn clear. Pretty darn clear. All right. We've just got one more quick thing to
00:53:51.560
talk about. And it is, I mean, speaking of sex pests, Bill Clinton, he's got something interesting
00:53:58.060
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00:55:09.440
was campaigning in Georgia. He's got his camo hat and he's talking to a group of voters about
00:55:18.020
immigration, which of course is a big concern for a lot of people. Someone asked him about Lake and
00:55:23.120
Riley, of course, the poor young woman that was just on a jog in Athens, Georgia, and she was
00:55:27.420
murdered on a Sunday morning by a Venezuelan illegal alien. I still can't believe that happened. It's
00:55:34.880
just so sad. Thanks, Kamala Harris, Bordersar, for that. He was asked about this, and interestingly,
00:55:43.820
You had a case in Georgia not very long ago, didn't you? They made an ad about a
00:55:47.600
young woman who'd been killed by an immigrant? Yeah, well, if they'd all been properly vetted,
00:55:54.340
that probably wouldn't have happened. But if they all properly vetted, and that doesn't happen,
00:56:01.620
and America is not having enough babies to keep our populations up, so we need immigrants that
00:56:08.840
have been vetted to do work, there wouldn't be a problem. And he couldn't keep people all torn up
00:56:16.980
and upset. Go to bed. Go to bed. I don't think you even know what you're saying. I think that you,
00:56:24.780
I think he realized what he said, and then he was like, but we need immigrants to mow the lawn.
00:56:31.580
That's basically his argument. You know, you've seen that on X. That's basically the argument
00:56:36.480
that is being made. It's being made with J.D. Vance in his Sunday interviews, which he is just
00:56:43.840
crushing, by the way. It's actually stunning that any of these networks are allowing him on. I'm
00:56:49.480
like, he's making y'all look so dumb. But he's doing a great job, and I'm very grateful for that.
00:56:54.580
I mean, he's incredibly articulate. And the way that they are trying to minimize the illegal immigration
00:57:00.220
problem and trying to say, well, who's going to farm for us? Who's going to be our cheap labor?
00:57:07.420
They're not going to be able to hire people. And J.D. Vance's point over and over again is like,
00:57:11.060
yeah, these companies aren't going to be able to pay these under the table wages,
00:57:16.420
because that's the thing is that these illegal immigrants will come over and they'll work for
00:57:21.680
any amount of money. And Americans can't work for that low amount of money. They need more money than
00:57:28.420
that. And that's why these major companies love illegal immigration. And so, I mean, J.D. Vance's
00:57:36.540
argument is like, yeah, that's not a good justification. That's a very sorry justification
00:57:41.500
for not caring about the sovereignty and protection and security of our country. But that's basically
00:57:48.580
what it comes down to. And oh, we're not having enough babies, so we have to replace them with
00:57:54.980
people from third world countries? How about let's stop aborting our babies? How about that?
00:57:59.820
How about let's stop with this anti-natalist, anti-baby policy and rhetoric that is so pervasive
00:58:08.260
on the progressive side? Like, let's fix that. There's a lot of things that I think we could fix
00:58:13.400
both personally and politically before we say, yeah, we just need to import a bunch of non-Americans
00:58:20.020
into the United States and that'll be our new country. That's not right. That's not what someone
00:58:26.140
who loves this country thinks. But he obviously indicted Harris there, our border czar, when he
00:58:34.280
said, oh, he wasn't properly vetted. Yeah, duh, because we don't have border enforcement right now
00:58:39.760
thanks to our current administration who undermines every effort by the border states to protect their
00:58:47.260
borders. And so when they are incentivized, when illegal aliens are incentivized to come here
00:58:52.640
illegally and cross the border, there's going to be a large surge of them. And we don't have the
00:58:57.360
manpower. We don't have the ability to vet them. And the policy is catch and release. They're being
00:59:02.280
released into the United States saying to come back at some time for a court date, and they just don't.
00:59:07.620
And because they are undocumented, there's really no way to ensure that they are deported or that they
00:59:16.600
are given the documents necessary to be here legally. And of course, when that happens,
00:59:21.800
you get Lake and Riley, you get Molly Tibbetts, you get Kate Steinle. That was the most surprising
00:59:29.540
chapter for me as I was writing it. I was the most incensed and the most passionate, I think,
00:59:35.560
when I was writing the immigration chapter, which was a surprise to me. It's not something that we
00:59:40.080
talk about as much as the other subjects in this book, like abortion, like gender. And yet, as I was
00:59:45.140
writing it, it was just, it's so obvious to me how unjust and how broken our system is, how obvious it
00:59:52.180
should be to anyone, but especially a Christian who worships a God of order, that borderlessness is
00:59:57.640
wrong and unloving and hateful and cruel towards your neighbors. Loving your neighbor does not mean
01:00:03.380
selling out your fellow citizens for people who have no interest in assimilating and no interest in
01:00:13.240
respecting our laws in the U.S. That's not what loving your neighbor means. That's not what loving
01:00:22.100
the sojourner means either. And I explain that very thoroughly in the immigration chapter of this book,
01:00:28.360
the one that people seem to be very upset about on X because I said that no human is illegal is a lie
01:00:35.220
because of course it is a lie. We are given laws in governments and countries and borders by the God
01:00:41.320
who loves us and who wants human beings to thrive and to come to know him. So order this book,
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Toxic Empathy, wherever books are sold. And thanks, Bill Clinton. In your old age, you have said
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something that is true. Bill Clinton, by the way, also passed the 1996 or signed the 1996 immigration
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law, which actually helped America out a whole lot and helped them deport a lot of illegal aliens and
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criminals. Democrats have fallen a long way, and it's largely because of this toxic empathy that has
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convinced people to be progressive in the name of compassion in a way that has really, really been
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detrimental to our country. So you can go to toxikempathy.com and check that out. Thank you