Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 23, 2025


Ep 1177 ｜ Colorado Parents Will Lose Custody for 'Deadnaming'


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

171.87184

Word Count

9,638

Sentence Count

595

Misogynist Sentences

29

Hate Speech Sentences

44


Summary


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Parental rights and First Amendment rights are hanging in the balance at the Supreme
00:00:05.680 Court and in the Colorado legislature.
00:00:08.280 We will be going through the Supreme Court case, as well as the various bills in Colorado
00:00:13.360 today and why they really, really matter, especially for children.
00:00:18.660 We've got all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable.
00:00:30.000 Hey, y'all.
00:00:32.160 Welcome to Relatable.
00:00:33.080 Happy Wednesday.
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00:04:28.280 Also, two women with incredible testimonies. Katie Faust, we've had her on several times. She is one
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00:06:09.600 we will actually get into the stories that we have to get into today. And I'll call on Brie to bring
00:06:14.400 in some clarity when needed. There's a lot of new stuff that we haven't covered. Yesterday, we went
00:06:18.980 into King of Kings. And so if you want to know about that movie, whether you should bring your kids to
00:06:22.760 see it, go back, listen to or watch that episode. But now we're finally going to get into some
00:06:27.320 political and news items that we've been meaning to talk about and just haven't had time. So first,
00:06:31.660 I want to talk about this case that SCOTUS is hearing right now, Mahmood versus Taylor. And
00:06:37.720 this has to do with LGBTQ plus content books in school libraries. So quite the intersection of
00:06:46.840 the things that we talk about on this show. Here's a summary. Yesterday, the Supreme Court
00:06:51.100 heard arguments in a case addressing whether Montgomery County public schools in Maryland
00:06:54.400 violated parents' First Amendment right to free exercise of religion by not allowing parents to
00:06:59.260 opt their children out of lessons involving LGBT plus storybooks, according to SCOTUS blog. And this
00:07:06.540 is a very reliable source of information for what's going on at SCOTUS. When the county announced in
00:07:12.520 2023 that it would not allow parents to opt to have their opt to have their children excused from
00:07:20.120 instruction involving the storybooks, a group of Muslim, Catholic and Ukrainian Orthodox parents went to
00:07:25.280 federal court on the grounds that not allowing parents to opt out of this curriculum for their
00:07:31.460 children violated their First Amendment rights. Two of these books include one where a girl attends her
00:07:37.460 uncle's gay wedding and another titled Pride Puppy, where a puppy gets lost at a pride parade.
00:07:44.620 So this case has now made its way up to the Supreme Court. And yesterday, Justice Brett Kavanaugh brought up
00:07:50.860 in the hearing that there are other situations where parents can opt out of certain curriculum,
00:07:56.940 but it's a little strange when it comes to LGBTQ center curriculum in Montgomery County and Maryland
00:08:02.640 that these parents apparently weren't able to opt out. Here's SOTUS.
00:08:06.540 The country has opt outs for all sorts of things. The county has opt outs for all sorts of things.
00:08:12.080 The other Maryland counties have opt outs for all sorts of things.
00:08:15.040 And yet for this one thing, they changed in mid year and say no more opt outs. I'm just not
00:08:22.860 understanding feasibility. And here, they're not asking you to change what's taught in the classroom.
00:08:28.680 They're not asking you to change that at all. A lot of the rhetoric suggests that they might have
00:08:33.880 that they were trying to do that, but that's not what they're trying to do. They're only seeking to be
00:08:39.740 able to walk out so that they don't have to. The parents don't have their children exposed to these
00:08:46.040 things that are contrary to their own beliefs.
00:08:49.520 These parents are being represented by a law firm called Beckett. It's a nonprofit, nonpartisan law firm
00:08:56.860 that they say that they protect the free expression of all religious traditions. And Kristen Wagner is the
00:09:03.700 CEO of Alliance Defending Freedom. And while they are not directly involved in this case, this falls under
00:09:09.640 the purview of what they do. And so she offered insight on X about this. Kristen Wagner says,
00:09:17.100 anyone who cares about parental rights or religious liberty should be aware of a major case on today's
00:09:22.060 docket at the U.S. Supreme Court. And Mahmood v. Taylor Beckett is representing a diverse group of
00:09:28.100 parents against the school board of Montgomery County, Maryland in 2023. So some of this is repetitive.
00:09:33.720 The board announced, contrary to Maryland law and the Constitution, that it would no longer allow
00:09:38.580 parents to opt their children out of sensitive lessons regarding gender or sexuality. Essentially,
00:09:43.460 the school board has mandated a new orthodoxy of belief, which must be taught to all children,
00:09:49.180 even against parents' wishes. Practically, this looks like three and four-year-olds, so even
00:09:54.400 preschoolers that are going to these public institutions, viewing picture books that promote
00:09:59.580 pride parades, elementary-aged children being taught about, quote-unquote, gender transitions,
00:10:04.800 and children who express opposing views being told their families' values are hurtful. ADF Legal has
00:10:12.880 filed an amicus brief, and we fully support Beckett's important advocacy in this case. The ruling in
00:10:17.960 Mahmood could significantly bolster our own efforts to fight another egregious abuse of parental rights
00:10:23.440 at school, the secret social transitioning of children behind their parents' backs. And she said this was on
00:10:29.540 the 22nd. So yesterday, I'm praying for today's argument. May justice be done, and may the families
00:10:34.380 prevail. Yes and amen. Praying that right along with her. Alan Schoenfeld, who is the attorney
00:10:44.200 representing the Maryland School Board, who of course is saying, nope, can't opt out of this. You have to be
00:10:50.020 indoctrinated with these beliefs. He maintained in his arguments that the school board had tried to
00:10:55.980 allow parents to opt out of instruction, but it wasn't feasible, he said, due to the sheer amount
00:11:04.320 or sheer number of students that were opting out. He said it wasn't possible for school officials to
00:11:09.440 make arrangements for the space, supervision, and alternate instruction needed for the many
00:11:13.300 students who would opt out. Okay, well, that's probably indicating a problem, right? If this many
00:11:20.880 parents of this many backgrounds at your public institution are saying, this is revolting to us,
00:11:26.720 this is offensive to us, we don't want our kids learning this, well then, I don't know, maybe you
00:11:31.420 shouldn't be teaching kids that. What's important here is that this is basically a religious doctrine
00:11:37.280 that a public institution is forcing children to imbibe. Remember this, okay? Secularism is not
00:11:46.080 neutral. Whenever you hear people saying, oh, well, your religious views, your Christianity
00:11:53.480 shouldn't affect curriculum or it shouldn't affect the law. Look, a worldview, a religion is going to
00:12:00.860 affect every policy and every law. There is nothing that is neutral. Every law, every policy that we have
00:12:06.560 on the books reflects what someone thinks about right and wrong, which is based upon their beliefs,
00:12:13.460 their philosophical beliefs, their religious beliefs, even atheism itself isn't neutral. An atheist still
00:12:20.380 has their own beliefs about what is right and what is wrong, and that is based on their own personal
00:12:25.480 belief system. So the question is, which worldview wins? And so secular progressivism has its own
00:12:33.300 assumptions. It has its own mantras, its own dogmas. The idea, for example, that a boy can become a girl
00:12:40.540 is not a scientific, neutral, secular viewpoint. I mean, I guess you could say it is secular,
00:12:46.420 but it's certainly not neutral or scientific. That is a superstitious belief. The idea that a baby
00:12:51.620 doesn't really become human until they pass through the birth canal isn't based on objective
00:12:56.220 fact or science. Like, that is your own personal subjective belief. And so you're saying, you secular,
00:13:03.080 progressive teacher, administrator, politician, that your worldview has the right to dominate,
00:13:09.320 but if a Christian says, actually, no, I think that my idea, my Christian biblical idea of life
00:13:14.800 inside the womb and the immutability of gender, that that's a better argument, that that should
00:13:19.600 prevail, that that enacts the least amount of harm on children. And so I want that to define our policy.
00:13:26.200 All of a sudden, that's Christian nationalism and that's fascism. What I think is so interesting and
00:13:31.400 actually important about this case is that you do have people of all different kinds of backgrounds,
00:13:35.660 that you do have Muslim parents that are coming forward and saying, absolutely not. My children
00:13:40.480 are not going to be a part of this. And while I don't think that that should be necessary in
00:13:44.900 creating a compelling argument for a lot of people who are just instinctively anti-Christian and who
00:13:50.000 think Christians are the only ones that have a problem with LGBTQ stuff, this does make it more
00:13:55.360 credible, which is why I think the majority of justices do seem to be sympathetic to the parents.
00:14:01.000 Justices Sotomayor and Jackson, of course, they are extremely progressive. They are activists.
00:14:08.640 They don't care at all really about the Constitution when you look at their arguments. They argue that
00:14:12.920 exposure to these books did not amount to coercion and express concerns about how far
00:14:17.160 the parents' opt-out request could extend. Well, it can extend as far as they want it to.
00:14:23.140 I think that's fine. Now, you might have a problem if a parent doesn't want their child to learn a
00:14:27.240 certain thing. You might disagree with that, but that's not your child. That's not your child.
00:14:31.480 And of course, in all of this, I think every parent that possibly can, and not every parent
00:14:35.680 can, but every parent that possibly can should ensure that their child has, if you're a Christian,
00:14:40.680 a Christian education, whether that's at home, whether that's a hybrid situation, or whether
00:14:44.700 that is in a Christian school. That doesn't mean that education is going to be perfect, but it is
00:14:49.400 going to have the same biblical basis idea that you are, so you're not having to battle against your
00:14:54.240 teachers who are actively seeking to disciple your child's mind with an anti-biblical worldview.
00:15:00.920 Not all teachers, but the system in general, that's exactly what they're trying to do. And so
00:15:05.800 this just goes to show the public school system is willing to literally go to the Supreme Court to
00:15:12.920 fight to teach your four- and five-year-old that they can butcher their bodies and become the opposite
00:15:18.140 gender. That's how much the left cares about this. They care about butchering and perverting your
00:15:23.880 child so much that they will literally fight for their right to do so, to force your child to learn
00:15:31.320 this stuff all the way up to the Supreme Court, okay? So if you have something in your mind, this
00:15:36.260 delusion in your mind that the left has maybe laid down since Donald Trump became president, that they're
00:15:41.000 taking a step back. No. They want to coerce your child into believing things that are not true and
00:15:47.780 destructive for them, and they will go to every single link to do that. And you need to be willing
00:15:53.840 to fight just as hard to protect your child's mind and to indoctrinate, that means place doctrines in
00:15:59.380 them that are good and right and true. Because if you are not discipling your children, someone else
00:16:04.980 will. If you are not protecting your children, Satan is prowling around like a roaring lion looking for
00:16:10.840 someone to devour, and children are extremely vulnerable. That's why they're always the
00:16:15.660 unconsenting subjects of progressive social experiments. God has placed you in their lives,
00:16:20.720 parents, to protect them from the predation of bad actors who only want bad things for them. So
00:16:26.280 good for these parents who I'm sure I have plenty of disagreements with theologically, but they're
00:16:31.120 fighting for their kids, and I'm very thankful for that. Thank you to Beckett. Thank you to ADF and to
00:16:36.640 all the organizations, First Liberty, all the organizations that fight for our First Amendment
00:16:40.600 rights, I'm very thankful for them. All right, we've got some other crazy laws just showing you
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00:19:02.320 So we won't know the results of that Supreme Court case, the decision on it, probably until
00:19:07.620 about mid-June. Right now, there's a lot going on in the state of Colorado. And y'all, there's a book,
00:19:14.280 I forget what it's called, someone out there probably knows, but it's a book about how Colorado,
00:19:18.160 which used to be this deep red, mostly rural mountain state with good, good-hearted salt-of-the-earth
00:19:27.320 mountain people turned blue. And yes, it's demographics. People just moved in from places
00:19:34.780 like California. Also, the homegrown people there became more progressive. But there was a whole
00:19:39.600 strategy to turn Colorado blue. And it is a very sad state of things. Because just like in places
00:19:48.940 like Washington and Oregon and even California, you have a lot of good, traditional, conservative
00:19:55.620 people who have lived there for a long time and have seen many of their beloved towns like Denver,
00:20:02.520 like Colorado Springs, even like Boulder, deteriorate because of progressive policies.
00:20:09.580 And Colorado has become one of the most rabidly progressive states. Brie notes that the book
00:20:18.820 might be, I actually don't know if it was Brie or Kimberly who put this in, but the blueprint,
00:20:24.020 how the Democrats won Colorado and why Republicans everywhere should care. I think that is the title
00:20:29.160 of the book that I was referencing. I'm sure it has a lot of interesting, interesting insights for
00:20:36.340 you, whether that was the book that I was originally referencing or not. But here's what's going on that
00:20:41.560 indicates just how far left Colorado has gotten. So this month, four Colorado bills, which aim to
00:20:48.160 enhance protections and access to, that's euphemistic language, to quote unquote gender affirming care,
00:20:55.680 reproductive health care, transgender rights were voted on. So if we want to break down what those
00:21:01.660 euphemisms actually mean, because none of them are true, you're not, if you are affirming your
00:21:06.960 gender, you don't need surgery to do that. You are the gender that you were at conception. So that means
00:21:12.660 butchering bodies, reproductive health care, that means butchering the bodies of babies inside the womb
00:21:17.360 and transgender rights, the denial of reality. So all these bills are voted on in Colorado.
00:21:22.420 One has passed and is awaiting signature. That's the abortion one, awaiting signature from the
00:21:28.080 governor. One has passed with amendments, sent back to the Senate, and two are pending Senate
00:21:32.720 approval. So some of these are still vulnerable to not getting passed, and we don't want them to
00:21:38.380 get passed. And so as I go through them, if you are living in the state of Colorado, you need to call
00:21:42.460 your state senators, the people who represent you, and make sure that your voice is heard. And we will
00:21:48.280 talk about some efforts that are happening right now in Colorado churches trying to stop these bills
00:21:53.500 because they really are so destructive and evil. So let's look at HB 25 first. This is called Protect
00:22:00.900 Access to Gender Affirming Health Care. Whenever you see that word access used by progressives,
00:22:07.640 what they mean is that they are forcing you to pay for something. They're forcing the taxpayer to pay for
00:22:13.160 something to pay for transition, so-called, or to pay for abortion. And this grants access to people
00:22:19.940 who maybe wouldn't otherwise be able to afford it without the help of taxpayer dollars or without
00:22:26.320 the state forcing, say, insurance companies to cover the cost of these procedures. So this bill
00:22:32.800 codifies protections for gender-affirming health care in state law. It mandates that all health insurance
00:22:38.820 plans in Colorado cover, quote, medically necessary gender-affirming care. Well, no,
00:22:45.220 no gender-affirming care is medically necessary, as determined by a healthcare provider, including
00:22:51.200 hormone therapy, psychiatric care, and surgeries like facial, breast, or genital reconstruction. If
00:22:57.040 you have not listened to my conversations with several detransitioners, then I encourage you,
00:23:02.780 please go back and do that. My conversation with Daisy, my conversation with Soren,
00:23:06.940 my conversation with Laura Perry-Smalt, and you will see that the endocrinologist, that the
00:23:12.160 psychiatrists, that the medical professionals that approved their surgeries and approved their
00:23:18.000 transitions were not doing so because these things were medically necessary, but because they are
00:23:22.620 ideologically captured and motivated, okay? Anything can be medically necessary if you have a worldview that
00:23:29.480 tells you that you can feel something that is different than your biological reality, and that that
00:23:34.540 internal feeling actually trumps biological reality. So all of these words are very malleable. Here are
00:23:41.180 the things that health insurance companies must provide, are coerced to provide by the Colorado state
00:23:48.820 government if this bill passes. So hormone therapy, so a man being injected with artificial estrogen that
00:23:56.380 would make him appear more like a woman, never really looks like a woman. So blepharoplasty, eye and lid,
00:24:06.500 forehead or neck, skin tightening, facial bone remodeling, genioplasty. It can be different kinds of
00:24:16.280 facial reconstruction, lip lift or augmentation. Medically necessary, y'all. Mandibular angle
00:24:25.500 augmentation. So these are all different kinds of facial reconstruction. Rhinoplasty, hair removal,
00:24:31.380 breast augmentation, reduction or reconstruction, genital and non-genital surgical procedures. I'm
00:24:37.940 going to let you in on a little secret. If you have to have any of those things to look like a particular
00:24:42.680 gender, you probably aren't. You just probably aren't. Like if you're a man whose face needs to
00:24:49.060 be broken and reconstructed to look like some kind of semblance of a female, you were never meant to be
00:24:57.020 that. And I say that in love. It might be harsh, but I say it in love because a God created you as a man
00:25:04.380 at the moment of conception and you will never ever be a woman. It doesn't matter what you wear. It doesn't
00:25:09.280 matter what you sound like. It doesn't matter what surgeries you get. You will never be a woman. No
00:25:14.660 one will even ever see you as a woman. And even the people in your life that call you she, her or call
00:25:19.040 you Kelly or Stacy or Jamie or whatever it is, they don't even believe that you're a woman. And they
00:25:24.160 would be offended if someone told them that they look like a trans woman. I just want you to realize
00:25:28.560 that and that you are a man and that you are more handsome as a man and that you are needed as a man
00:25:34.820 and your masculinity is a good thing. And I'm sorry if anyone ever hurt you and told you that
00:25:39.240 it wasn't. And the same exact thing applies to a woman who is trying to be a man. You are a woman
00:25:44.580 and I'm sure that has been weaponized against you. Maybe you have been a victim of assault, but you
00:25:48.680 will never ever be the opposite sex. And I have talked to so many broken men and women who believe
00:25:54.180 the lie that they could become the opposite sex, that everyone else was wrong and they were right.
00:25:58.620 And their internal feelings were right. That were exacerbated by their pornography use,
00:26:03.260 by the abuse that they endured, whatever it was. And it's a lie. Okay. It's a delusion and you could
00:26:10.040 be rendered permanently sterile. You will never, ever recover from some of these surgeries. And
00:26:16.200 your body as a man is not meant to house all of that estrogen. Your body as a woman is not meant to
00:26:21.700 house all of that testosterone. It is physically bad for you. It is mentally bad for you. It is
00:26:25.940 spiritually bad for you. You were made in God's image. You were bought with a price by Jesus Christ on the
00:26:32.180 cross and he cares for you and nothing you have ever done makes you too far off or beyond redemption
00:26:38.320 or salvation. So I want you to recognize that you are a man or woman made in God's image, that you are
00:26:43.360 loved by God and you can be saved by Jesus. Okay. And I don't want you to keep going down this path and
00:26:49.380 any law that makes it easier for someone to get further and further from who they are biologically
00:26:56.400 and further and further into delusion, we should oppose. And it's not because we hate people.
00:27:02.760 It's actually because we love them and we know that God's ways are always better. And if we love
00:27:06.920 our neighbor, we want God's ways for our neighbor. And yes, that does mean through policy. Remember,
00:27:12.140 no policy is neutral. And so Christians have every right and every responsibility to try to infuse truth
00:27:18.320 and light and goodness into policymaking in the state of Colorado and elsewhere. And then there's
00:27:24.320 another part of HB 25. This is 1312. So the other segment that I just described was 1309. This is
00:27:31.080 1312. It's known as the Kelly Loving Act. It was passed by the Colorado House on April 6th, and it now
00:27:39.620 awaits review in the Colorado Senate. And so this is a very, very scary part of this bill. The courts must
00:27:46.520 consider deadnaming all these euphemisms, misgendering, threats to publish material related to gender
00:27:53.520 affirming health care. So like outing someone as coercive control when determining parenting time
00:28:00.420 and child custody. So they must determine, they must look at all of these things when they are
00:28:06.680 determining parental custody and like a divorce custody battle. When it comes to how these parents
00:28:13.620 treat their children, courts shall evaluate reports of coercive control to allocate parental
00:28:18.080 responsibilities based on the child's best interests, but coercive control. So they could
00:28:24.540 accuse a parent of coercive control. Like if a parent, for example, threatens to publish the individual's
00:28:33.120 sensitive personal information, including sexually explicit material or material related to gender
00:28:37.820 affirming health care services or make reports to the police or authorities or deadnaming or misgendering
00:28:42.440 the individual or individual's child or relative. Okay. So if a parent in a custody battle is either
00:28:50.840 calling the other parents, say a woman in a custody battle, she's getting a divorce from her husband who now
00:28:57.020 has declared that he is a woman, his name is Sally. If she keeps on referring to him as Frank, keeps on saying
00:29:02.900 he, him, or say they have a child who claims that they are gender confused. And the little boy named Jack
00:29:09.400 now says that his name is Gracie and the mom refuses to go along with it, refuses to call this child by this
00:29:17.920 new name, then the judge has to, according to this law, consider that when allocating custody to each
00:29:25.540 parent. So the parent who acknowledges reality, acknowledges the reality of their ex-spouse's gender,
00:29:32.420 or acknowledges the reality of their child, refuses to affirm these newfound identities,
00:29:38.320 the not parent could be punished and should be punished, really, if you look at this bill
00:29:44.200 in cases of a custody battle. And so that's what's going on, that basically the state will steal your
00:29:52.720 child from you, will take away your custody rights from your child if you affirm biological reality.
00:29:59.200 It also prohibits Colorado courts from enforcing or recognizing another state's law that allows child
00:30:05.620 removal from a parent or guardian for supporting gender-affirming health care services. So if a
00:30:11.060 parent in Texas, for example, the judge decided because one of the parties is actually pushing
00:30:18.500 their child towards transitioning, and that judge in Texas says, okay, no, we're taking away your rights
00:30:25.660 because of that. Colorado is not going to recognize that. So Colorado is becoming almost like a sanctuary
00:30:30.380 state for these parents who want to transition their child. It requires any chosen name policy
00:30:36.320 by local education providers, educators, or contractors to be inclusive of all reasons a
00:30:41.200 student might adopt a chosen name, differing from their legal name. So a teacher will be obligated to
00:30:47.580 call Jack Gracie even if it violates her beliefs. Mandates that school dress codes must not enforce
00:30:54.440 gender-based rules and must allow students to choose any dress code variation. I mean, think about
00:31:00.440 that. Not only are you allowing a boy to dress up as a girl and vice versa, just sowing so much
00:31:05.320 confusion and perversion in these young impressionable minds, but there's just no sense of modesty anymore
00:31:11.600 because apparently that's gender-based bias. Defines deadnaming and misgendering, so calling someone by their
00:31:19.140 real name as discriminatory acts under the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act. This is from the bill.
00:31:25.680 It is a discriminatory practice and unlawful to, with specific intent to discriminate,
00:31:30.280 publish materials that deadname or misgender an individual. The refusal of a pre-publication
00:31:34.700 request for the publisher to use an individual's chosen name, honorifics, or pronouns can serve as
00:31:39.160 evidence of the intent required by subsection 6A of this section. Now, I don't have on here
00:31:46.740 what the punishment will be if someone violates that. I'm sure someone out there has the punitive
00:31:54.120 details that are included in this bill, but it will be against the law in these entities to use
00:32:01.840 the quote-unquote wrong name for someone who says that they are now the opposite sex. And so this is
00:32:08.140 anti-First Amendment. This is anti-parental rights. And this should scare the ever-living daylights out of
00:32:16.020 you. And again, this is how far Democrats will go to violate your right. So while they're all
00:32:20.500 pretending out there like they care about due process, they care about the First Amendment when
00:32:24.840 it comes to deporting MS-13 gang members, they don't. I mean, Colorado is the same place where
00:32:30.780 Jack Phillips, the baker from Masterpiece Cake Shop, has been targeted for over a decade by progressive
00:32:37.560 activists, by the courts in Colorado, because he simply refused to bake a cake that celebrated a gay
00:32:44.820 wedding and refused to bake a cake that celebrated a so-called gender transition. And they haven't let
00:32:51.180 him live in peace. It's not live and let live. It's not believe whatever you want to, as long as you
00:32:55.520 don't impose it on me. It's that you can't believe whatever you want to, and you certainly cannot live
00:32:59.400 it out, even in your own private business that you own. That's what the left believes. So whenever
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00:34:26.840 All right. SB25. This is the one that is heading to the governor's desk right now. So it is almost
00:34:38.280 signed into law. Unfortunately, it passed the House and the Senate just a few days ago,
00:34:43.980 and it conforms, quote unquote, abortion rights. It updates the state statutes to reflect Amendment 79,
00:34:53.040 which repealed the constitutional ban on public funding for abortions and enshrined the right to
00:34:58.760 abortion prohibiting state and local governments from denying, impeding or discriminating against
00:35:03.060 this so-called right. It also, again, mandates insurance coverage. So the insurance companies
00:35:09.100 have to cover the cost of abortion. Your taxpayer dollars in Colorado have to cover the cost of
00:35:15.560 abortion. And Colorado is allowed through all nine months in the state of in all nine months
00:35:21.120 throughout the state. And it is one of the most radical laws regarding abortion in the country.
00:35:29.840 And that's actually where a lot of the late term abortions that occur in this country happen.
00:35:35.880 And we've talked about this in the Atlantic and the New York Times. Some of the most prolific
00:35:41.440 abortionists live in practice in Colorado. And no, they are not doing abortions on women who have
00:35:48.720 serious health issues. It's not because of fetal anomalies. They have actually admitted that they
00:35:55.900 are performing these abortions because these women want abortions. And by the way, there is never,
00:36:00.480 ever, ever a medical reason to have an abortion in the third trimester. It doesn't even make sense.
00:36:05.760 I mean, after 24 weeks, I mean, at least after 24 weeks, you deliver that baby and that baby can go to
00:36:12.440 NICU and the mom can get the care that she needs. If the baby is going to come out either way,
00:36:16.620 there's no reason to kill the baby before he or she comes out. It doesn't even make any logical
00:36:21.120 sense. And so people are having abortions in the third trimester when they're having them
00:36:25.520 at least 10,000 times a year, by the way, according to the Guttmacher Institute, which is Planned
00:36:31.160 Parenthood's research arm. Those late term abortions, third trimester abortions are happening at least
00:36:37.840 10,000 times a year. Many of them happening in the state of Colorado. And now Colorado is saying
00:36:42.740 you are going to pay for them. So again, when people try to tell you that you, Christian,
00:36:48.000 you just need to leave your beliefs at home, you don't need to infuse your beliefs into this fight,
00:36:52.840 that is just a silencing and manipulation tactic because progressives are forcing you to not only
00:36:59.520 conform to their ideas, but to fund their ideas. So while they're calling you a fascist, they are using
00:37:06.040 every bit of power they have to push their demonic worldview on you at the harm of the most vulnerable,
00:37:13.820 the child inside the womb. And then we also have the SB 25129 pass the House with amendments. We'll
00:37:21.160 sit back to the Senate for concurrence on those amendments. And it basically creates Colorado as
00:37:28.820 a sanctuary state for abortion. So if someone leaves the state for because their state has more
00:37:35.740 restrictive abortion laws, say like the state of Arkansas, they want to get an abortion, they can
00:37:40.980 go to Colorado and get that abortion. It amends multiple sections of the Colorado revised statutes
00:37:46.900 to safeguard providers, patients, related entities from out of state civil or criminal action. So
00:37:52.540 they're basically protected. If you want to go to Colorado, not only to get an abortion,
00:37:56.560 but also to get quote unquote gender affirming care, if that is restricted in your state,
00:38:02.380 then you can go there and you can be protected. Those states that you are coming from can't.
00:38:08.840 Colorado is saying, come there and try to come after you for that, which I can't even really
00:38:12.980 imagine that a state would do that. And so Colorado has become a sanctuary state for evil. And not only
00:38:21.000 that, it's also become a sanctuary state for illegal aliens as well. According to Denver7.com, that's
00:38:28.640 the ABC affiliate, the immigrant protection bill, again, just another euphemism, has passed the Colorado
00:38:36.280 Senate. It's moving to the House. It would expand the state's protections on disclosing personal
00:38:43.420 information, including immigration status and further limit cooperation with federal agents
00:38:48.700 over civil immigration issues, restricting their access to non-public areas inside places like
00:38:54.920 jails, schools and hospitals. Okay, so ICE can't come into the jail and get an illegal alien to deport
00:39:02.260 them. This is just reinforcing that Colorado is a sanctuary state. You'll remember that Trin de
00:39:07.960 Aragua, a violent Venezuelan gang, had taken over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, where there was
00:39:14.060 murder and all kinds of violence happening, where people have died due to the violence that has been
00:39:19.540 inflicted by illegal aliens, whether it's a hit and run or whether it's direct violence like murder,
00:39:25.540 assault. We've seen that in the state of Colorado. And yet Colorado, the Democrats there care more about
00:39:30.980 protecting these illegal aliens and abortion and gender transition than they actually care about
00:39:36.080 protecting children, protecting families, protecting American citizens in the Colorado. That is the state of
00:39:41.200 the Democrat Party. They can't not be insane. Like they could, they could beat Trump. They could beat
00:39:46.960 Republicans. They could run on the economy. They could try to be representative of the working class.
00:39:52.680 They could pick those 80-20 issues and say, we do them better than Republicans, but they can't.
00:39:57.960 They can't not be insane. They are bound by the gender lobby. They are bound by the illegal alien lobby,
00:40:04.580 and they want destruction for the United States. Everything that is good and that Christians want to
00:40:09.620 protect the current Democrat Party wants to destroy. Don't be distracted by the criticisms you're
00:40:14.960 seeing by Donald Trump and start thinking, oh, should I have voted for him? I mean, just imagine
00:40:19.700 all that I just explained to you nationalized and made true everywhere. That is what would have
00:40:27.740 happened if Kamala Harris would have become president, okay? And so, no, I mean, I'm not saying you can't
00:40:33.220 criticize Donald Trump or think bad things about anything that he's done, but it is by the mercy of God
00:40:39.340 that we have the administration that we do and not an administration like this running the rest of
00:40:43.920 the country. So, there is a church response to what's happening in Colorado, and I'm very thankful
00:40:50.500 for that in response to HB 25, the protections for transgender individuals. Specifically,
00:40:59.280 a small group of pastors and faith leaders from churches across the state of Colorado have banded
00:41:04.960 together. They've formed a coalition to oppose the Colorado legislature passing these bills. They have
00:41:11.720 a website, fight1312.com, has information about the bills as well as resources. They've got sample
00:41:19.460 letters that you can send to your representatives. They're available to Colorado citizens. One of the
00:41:25.620 pastors, Matt Johnson of Brave Church Colorado, he co-wrote a letter to big churches aimed at targeting
00:41:31.080 the two Democrat senators most likely to flip and vote no on the bills in question. So, you can go to
00:41:37.540 fight1312.com, and you can see that. Several of the pastors are trying to get the word out about these
00:41:45.020 bills to speak out against them. They hosted a march and a prayer walk against this bill specifically
00:41:52.620 on April 17th. And you can see that advertisement there. They also put up this graphic, 10 reasons to
00:42:01.800 oppose these bills that are an assault on parental rights, on free speech. And so, I'm very thankful
00:42:10.880 for the churches in Colorado and what they're doing. I just encourage you to support them, to pray with
00:42:15.740 them, to do what you can to get involved. And there will be weak Republicans, spineless Republicans,
00:42:22.220 and conservatives who don't want to get involved. But I'm very thankful for the Christians there who
00:42:27.120 are putting up a fight, and I just pray that they would continue to do so. All right. We do have some
00:42:32.120 good news. It looks like, for once, the UK is actually ahead of us in a good way, especially when
00:42:37.240 it comes to this gender madness. So, we'll get into that in a second. Let me pause and tell you about
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00:45:01.460 On April 16th, 2025, the UK Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the legal definition of woman under the
00:45:09.660 2010 Equality Act refers to biological sex, which is a it's repetitive, but that's how people say it
00:45:18.420 today for the sake of clarity, excluding, quote unquote, transgender women, even those with gender
00:45:23.680 recognition certificates, which is a legal document in the UK that allows so-called transgender people to
00:45:30.340 change their legal gender. Now they're saying, I guess that you can still do that. But for the
00:45:36.220 purposes of bathrooms, for the purposes of prisons, you have to actually be a woman. So the Supreme
00:45:43.060 Court in the UK, there are five judges led by Lord Patrick Hodge, did not conduct a public vote, but
00:45:48.200 issued a unanimous judicial ruling, which is amazing. The case brought by Four Women Scotland, a Scottish
00:45:54.000 feminist advocacy group that protects the rights of women and children, challenged a 2018 Scottish law
00:45:59.280 that included trans women with GRCs in the definition of a woman for public board quotas.
00:46:05.060 The court determined that sex and woman in the Equality Act mean sex at birth, overturning earlier
00:46:11.500 Scottish court rulings. That is another place which has just gone off the deep end when it comes to
00:46:17.280 progressive ideology. So here's what it means regarding single sex facilities. It means that providers of
00:46:25.100 single sex facilities, so as I said, changing rooms, refuges for, you know, women who are victims of
00:46:33.920 violence can, they can lawfully exclude, quote unquote, trans women, even if they do have that GRC
00:46:42.380 from women's spaces, if it is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim, such as ensuring
00:46:49.180 privacy, safety or fairness for women. And of course, that's always the case. It's always going to be
00:46:55.700 the case if you have a single sex facility to make sure that it really is single sex, that that is
00:47:01.440 always going to be the case that that ensures the protection of women for sports. The ruling provides
00:47:08.080 legal clarity for sports organizations to exclude trans women from female only categories to ensure
00:47:14.140 fairness and safety aligning with policies from bodies like world athletics. However, it does not
00:47:19.740 mandate exclusion. That's the same thing when it comes to single sex facilities. They can still set
00:47:24.800 their own policies, but they can exclude so-called transition if they want to. So we got some people
00:47:31.860 who are very upset about this. Drag Race UK is apparently a TV show there, and some of these stars from that
00:47:40.320 show are very upset. This person, Davina DeCampo, says, the fight back starts today. We will not go
00:47:47.440 back into the shadows to make you comfortable. F all the way off. And I've seen a lot of very angry
00:47:54.640 protesters who say that they're not going to switch bathrooms, and they're not backing down from this.
00:48:02.720 Okay, well, we'll see about that. It doesn't surprise me at all. They are disproportionately
00:48:06.700 extremely violent, which it makes sense, because if you are a man that doesn't care about making
00:48:14.500 women uncomfortable, doesn't care about making them feel unsafe, and you are forcing yourself
00:48:19.500 into a woman's restroom, that probably means that you are a predator. I mean, because what other kind
00:48:25.680 of man would want to do something like that? The Good Law Project is a UK-based nonprofit that uses
00:48:31.660 legal action to challenge abuses. The Supreme Court sided with FWS, but it didn't hear from a single
00:48:40.020 trans person. Well, it doesn't really matter, because that doesn't change reality. J.K. Rowling,
00:48:46.080 who is British, has lived in Scotland. She has been one of the biggest, most prominent voices
00:48:51.300 on the side of reality. She said, it took three extraordinary, tenacious Scottish women with an
00:48:57.200 army behind them to get this case heard by the Supreme Court, and in winning, they've protected the
00:49:01.380 rights of women and girls across the UK. And now, I mean, what you're going to have to do is you're
00:49:06.260 going to have to push very hard for these private businesses and just for institutions to enact policies
00:49:13.000 that are protecting women and girls. Even Richard Dawkins, the famous atheist, he says, aggressively
00:49:20.320 dominant male mammals typically urinate to scent mark their territory. And so he's talking about,
00:49:28.180 you'll have to look at it, but he's talking about in reference to some of the signs of these men who
00:49:32.740 think they're women. They, like, at these protests, one says, I love pissing on turfs. And then another
00:49:43.120 one, I guess, is about urinating where they want to. And he says, yeah, this is dominant male mammals.
00:49:50.440 They pee where they want to, to try to mark their territory and to show their dominance. And so these men
00:49:57.060 who's saying they're women, they're acting like other male mammals. And Richard Dawkins says, they
00:50:01.640 think they're women, but can you imagine a better walking, talking, reeking advertisement for toxic
00:50:05.900 masculinity? Hashtag sex matters. So at least Richard Dawkins understands that. So in a lot of ways, as I
00:50:13.100 said, the UK is ahead of us, and I'm very thankful for that. I mean, they banned puberty blockers in
00:50:19.440 children a while ago, a little while ago. And so I'm just thankful for the people who are doing exactly
00:50:24.880 what they were supposed to do. And that is raising a respectful ruckus for the things that matter.
00:50:30.000 And Christians should be on the front lines of those things. Because again, it's not just that
00:50:33.960 we recognize biology, but we know the importance of biology because we know that God created us
00:50:39.340 biologically and created us in his image. So not only does physical reality have physical and material
00:50:46.560 significance, but also spiritual and eternal significance. And again, if we are called to love
00:50:52.040 our neighbor, then that means we want God's best for them. And God's ways are always best.
00:50:56.800 The most loving thing we can do, both publicly and privately, politically, personally, is agree
00:51:02.260 with God. And I'm very thankful for those who are fighting this fight, and our voices should always
00:51:08.320 be with them. All right. As we close out today's episode, I do have one more ad, and that is from
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00:52:28.000 So at the end of all of that, I just want to encourage you that God has placed you where you
00:52:40.340 are at the time that you are in for a specific reason. Because this is a God, the one that we
00:52:45.840 serve, the only God that exists. He does nothing arbitrarily. He does nothing accidentally. He's
00:52:51.180 never thrown off. He's never taken aback. He's never wondering what's going to happen next. He's
00:52:55.720 never swooping in to just clean up the mess. But he has placed every single person here
00:53:00.980 purposely. And he chooses, he doesn't have to, but he chooses to use the obedience, the boldness,
00:53:09.360 the courage, the words, the prayers of Christians to accomplish his purpose. And as I've talked about
00:53:16.640 a lot, but I'm just so encouraged by this, the history of the church is carrying the baton of human
00:53:23.720 dignity and human protection. And the history of the church is culture warring and culture building
00:53:32.260 and fighting against evil. And as I've often said, politics is not the only way to love your
00:53:38.500 neighbor. The culture wars, not the only way to love your neighbor. I wouldn't even say that they
00:53:42.980 are the primary way to love your neighbor, but they are a way to love your neighbor. Because when we're
00:53:48.140 looking at all of these laws, at the other side of all of these laws, the effect of all of these
00:53:53.180 laws, they're on people. They're really on our neighbors. They are on our fellow emerge bearers
00:53:58.720 of God. They're not just arguments. So when Christians say, I don't want to get involved
00:54:01.920 in politics because I'm afraid of being divisive. Well, that's easy for you to say if you don't
00:54:06.860 think that you or your children are ever going to be affected. That's really a much more selfish
00:54:11.540 way to think. It's not loving. It's kind of just like a cop-out. Well, I'm never going to choose
00:54:17.300 abortion, so I guess that doesn't affect me. Or my child is never going to have to go through a
00:54:21.660 custody battle where one parent thinks that the child should be the opposite sex. So I just won't
00:54:27.440 have to worry about that. That shows that you care more about protecting yourself, your reputation,
00:54:32.780 your comfort than you do the children on the altar of these things. So I just encourage you to do what
00:54:39.200 you can. It doesn't mean that you have to have a podcast. It doesn't mean that you have to become
00:54:42.160 an activist. It doesn't mean that you have to be on the front lines, but you can contribute
00:54:46.480 something through your obedience. And I'm talking discipling your children in the truth,
00:54:51.380 ensuring their education is filled with biblical truth, ensuring that your pastor, that your elders,
00:54:57.540 that your church members know the laws that are being passed in the state of Colorado or whatever
00:55:02.400 state you're in, knowing who is on the school board in your local community, and getting involved
00:55:08.460 on whatever level you can. It could just be volunteering at a pregnancy center. All of these things
00:55:14.500 contribute to good outcomes. All of these things amount to collective courage that can really make
00:55:21.860 a difference. And we know in the end, Jesus is coming back. No matter what any legislature does,
00:55:27.200 we know that Jesus wins, but he's not back yet. And so we have to do the next right thing in faith
00:55:32.920 with excellence and for the glory of God. Even when that takes courage and sacrifice, it's courage and
00:55:38.800 sacrifice on behalf of the most vulnerable when it comes to these policies. So I just wanted to end
00:55:44.300 on that hopeful note. And we will be back here tomorrow. We'll be having a really interesting
00:55:48.440 episode. I'll be talking to a guest that I've never had on before, Bill O'Reilly. And we'll be
00:55:53.340 talking about all things Trump administration. Also be talking a little bit about the future of the
00:55:58.020 papacy within the Catholic Church. A really interesting conversation that you're going to learn a lot from.
00:56:02.600 We will be back here for that tomorrow.