Ep 1190 ｜ Josh Buice & G3’s Slander Scandal
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A ministry leader named Josh Bice of G3 Ministries has been caught in a very embarrassing, very online scandal. We will get into this today, but there is very good news in the comedy world: more and more comedians are asking really good questions about God and about the gospel.
Transcript
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A ministry leader named Josh Bice of G3 Ministries has been caught in a very embarrassing, very
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We will get into this today, but there is very good news.
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In the comedy world, it seems like more and more comedians are asking really good questions
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But before we do, let me remind you about Share the Arrows, October 11th, 2025, Dallas,
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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I had so many questions, so many personal questions that I wanted to ask him medically.
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I didn't go there, but gosh, I could have listened to him talk for hours.
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So go back, listen to, or watch yesterday's episode if you haven't already.
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Okay, we're going to get into the G3 scandal today.
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And I really, part of me really doesn't want to because it is a very sad story.
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It's a very embarrassing story for everyone involved.
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G3 stands for Gospel, Grace, Glory, Three Great Things.
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And I think the ministry has been really positive over the years, especially in the fight against
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It really stood strong during the crazy events of 2020 when it seemed like a lot of evangelicals
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I spoke at G3 conference, I think, in 2020 at like a women's breakout.
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And so I've known Josh Bice or, you know, just at least on the internet.
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Other than that, like, I don't have any affiliations or associations with G3 at all.
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I've just been grateful for the resources they've provided, for the teaching that they've
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People like Votie Bauckham have been platformed like G3, Steve Lawson, who used to be considered,
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And so, yeah, I never saw any issues or expected any sort of scandal to come out of G3.
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But unfortunately, that's exactly what has happened.
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Now, it's not the typical scandal where the leader of a church has fallen into some kind
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So Josh Bice, who is the founder and president of G3 Ministries, he's also a pastor at Praise
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He recently resigned after confessing to operating multiple anonymous online accounts used to
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slander fellow Christian leaders and church elders.
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I'm talking about solid people, conservative Christians, conservative theologically that
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His resignation prompted the cancellation of the G3 conference this year.
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So G3, in case you don't know, it's a Christian organization founded to, quote, equip churches
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with sound biblical theology and reformed doctrine.
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Their goal is to strengthen the local church by providing resources, conferences, and media that
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promote expository preaching, church-centered discipleship, doctrinal fidelity.
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In addition to their annual conference, they publish blogs, a podcast, and books.
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They have platformed people like John McArthur and Paul Washer, as I said, Vody Bauckham.
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And Josh Bice has, as the leader of G3, he's led his organization, his church, to leave the
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They did that in 2022, citing a, quote, cultural shift to the left.
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So again, this is an organization that I would say I probably align with on almost everything.
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G3 released a statement on May 12th, claiming that Bice confessed to operating anonymous accounts
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This is the statement, quote, in recent weeks, the elders of PMBC uncovered irrefutable evidence
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that Dr. Bice has, for the past three years, operated at least four anonymous social media
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accounts, two anonymous email addresses, and two sub-stack platforms.
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How does one person have the capacity to do that?
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Even if you're not anonymous, I would think it would be really difficult to maintain all
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of these anonymous identities that you want people to think are separate, are their own
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I just can't even imagine how much energy that would take.
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These accounts, the statement reads, were used to publicly and anonymously slander numerous
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Christian leaders, including faithful pastors, some of whom have spoken at the G3 conference.
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He was like going after his co-workers with some of these anonymous accounts.
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Several PMBC, that's Praise Mill Baptist Church elders, so his own elders at the church that he was
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These actions were not only sinful in nature, but deeply divisive, causing unnecessary suspicion
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and strife within the body of Christ, and particularly within the eldership of PMBC.
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Neither G3 nor PMBC has released any information about the accounts and blogs, nor—okay, I was
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just reading it like that was part of the statement.
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But I'm noting to you that neither G3 nor PMBC has released any information about the
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accounts and blogs, what the accounts and blogs actually were, nor have they presented
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the evidence that caused them to be suspicious and confront Bice in the first place.
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I do have some internal knowledge about how all of this went down and what actually led to
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But because that information hasn't been made public yet, and I have not been tasked by some
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of these people to make it public, I'm just going to keep that to myself.
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If they end up making that public, then we can discuss it more.
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But they haven't talked about why they decided to have this meeting with Josh Bice.
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But when the leadership at G3 did, when they called them into a room and said, hey, we think
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that you've been operating these various Twitter accounts that you've also been interacting
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with from your Josh Bice account on X to slander some of your elders and to slander some solid
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Christian brothers, some other Christian teachers, and these Substack accounts, Josh Bice reportedly
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So he had been asked on multiple occasions over the past two years, this is not all just
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happening right now, whether he had any connection to these anonymous accounts.
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So for some reason, the people in Josh's life thought, that kind of sounds like Josh.
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Now, it'd be weird if it was Josh, but it kind of sounds like him.
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And so people confronted him over the past two years, and he lied.
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But on Sunday evening, May 4th, 2025, after clear and comprehensive evidence emerged linking
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the accounts directly to him, and we don't know publicly what exactly that is, the elders
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For some time, he continued to deny his involvement.
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Only after further evidence was presented and much pleading with him to walk in the light
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So he thought he was going to be able to operate these accounts, lie about them, cover them up,
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And I just am, I am proud of, I'm impressed by the persistence of G3 leadership to get
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him to bring these things to light, because it would have been a lot easier for them, especially
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PR wise, to pretend that this didn't happen, to brush it under the rug, to keep it private,
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and to just say, dude, we know it's you, but okay, if you're saying it's not you, I guess
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Maybe they could have privately pushed him to resign.
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They certainly would have been able to save face, but they didn't.
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They pushed him to give the honest answer, and then they showed transparency to the public.
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So since then, Josh has acknowledged, according to this statement, his sin expressed sorrow
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His desire is to personally ask forgiveness of every person he has slandered or lied to.
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So this reminds me a little bit of the Stephen Lawson situation.
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You'll remember the statements that were given by his ministries.
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I think it's One Passion Ministries, as well as Trinity Bible Church.
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He did confess when presented with the evidence that everyone knows that you're caught in this
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It's unclear if they're sad that they got caught or if they actually did it.
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And he wants to repent, or it seems like he wants to repent.
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But we don't have any evidence so far that he has repented.
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I still am not sure that we know if Stephen Lawson has repented.
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Again, we get a lot of vague answers about this, which is really sad, which means there's
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a lot of praying to be done about this situation if Josh Bice, in particular, is not truly repentant.
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And if he's only sad that he got caught and he's embarrassed, that's just not enough.
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So it doesn't seem right now that the elders consider him permanently disqualified from
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So it's not that he committed a sexual sin or like with Robert Morris when we talked about
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that, that he had prayed upon a child, that he had lied about that, covered that up for
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That doesn't mean that you can't repent and be forgiven by God, but I would say that's
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The leadership of G3 is saying they don't think that he's necessarily permanently disqualified
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from ministry, but currently he is disqualified from eldership, from his senior pastor position
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At Praise Mill, he has been placed on indefinite leave.
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His resignation was accepted unanimously by the G3 board on May 8th.
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No independent public statement from Bice has been published as of now.
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I'd be really curious to know what he has to say.
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On May 13th, G3 provided an update for the sake of clarity on their original statement that
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Due to the public and egregious nature of the sin, we believe Josh Bice has stained the
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After further consideration and godly counsel, we have made the decision to remove all of Josh
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So they had originally said that all of Josh's videos, that his articles and everything would
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And I kind of cringed when I originally read that.
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So I'm happy that they're removing this because the messenger does matter.
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The message matters more, but the messenger does actually matter.
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This will take some time to accomplish the removing of all of his content.
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And from our founding, G3's purpose has been to educate and encourage, equip local churches
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And so Josh's content just can't be used for that anymore.
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G3 ministries canceled its 2025 national conference.
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All workshops scheduled for the year, citing a commitment to avoid, quote, celebrity culture.
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In the clarifying statement put out on May 13th, G3 ministry stated that while the conference
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of the ministry could continue without Josh's leadership, we chose to cancel this year's
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event primarily because several of the scheduled speakers had been simply targeted by him
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So we don't really know what went on behind the scenes.
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Did those speakers, after they found out that Josh was attacking them, did they say,
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Did they just cancel because it was too difficult without, you know, his leadership or there was
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They had to figure out how to, you know, clean up their house, get everything in order.
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Now, when I read the reason of celebrity culture, I think of the other kind of like mini scandal
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that was going on online with G3, that they had this kind of, it was a VIP package that they
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were selling for the G3 conference that cost a lot of money.
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Maybe like, I think it was like $5,000 or maybe, or maybe something like that.
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And people were saying how awful this is, how terrible it is.
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And I understand because this is a nonprofit organization, but I'm also someone who has
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And so I have a lot of understanding of what goes into planning events and how much it costs
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to plan an event, how much you have to pay speakers.
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You have to pay speakers, you know, you have to pay speakers and you have to pay for the
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You have to pay for all of these different accommodations.
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And in order to have general admission tickets that are affordable to most of the public, you
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have to also sell ticket packages that cost more money.
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And someone who is buying a $5,000 package to G3 or any conference, they are doing that
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because that is how they want to support that organization.
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And so the organization is saying, hey, if you want to support us by giving this money,
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we will also give you something of value in return.
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You will get to like eat with the speakers or whatever.
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I didn't think that was a, I didn't think that was a scandal.
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I thought all of the people that were kind of criticizing them about that, maybe there were things
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that I didn't understand or information that I didn't know about that.
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But to me, I'm like, oh, this is people yet again, expecting everything to be free and
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not knowing that things cost money and that some things are expensive in conferences to
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be able to accommodate those who cannot buy more expensive things.
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So anyway, I don't know what G3 thought about all of those criticisms.
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If that's actually part of why this conference was canceled or if it just had to do with Josh,
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But G3 also said, we did not want to put the brothers who were targeted by Josh's anonymous
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accounts in the difficult position of deciding whether to participate in an event so closely
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So maybe it was them preemptively just reaching out to those people and saying, you don't even
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So let's talk about what these accounts actually were.
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Now, G3 did not publish which accounts were operated by Josh Bice or which substacks were
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I think that would be good information to know.
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But I also understand why G3 doesn't want to open that can of worms because then that's
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just going to cause more division and more hurt feelings when at the end of the day, does
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But there's been a lot of sleuthing because internet users, especially ex-users, are really
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And I can say, like, I do know that this is true.
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Like, I do know, I have been told that these accounts were operated by Josh.
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Now, obviously, I haven't talked to Josh directly, but I have talked to people who are very close
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to this, and I would say that the internet sleuths have it, it seems like, for the most
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So there were two anonymous accounts, one called Big Eva Secrets and one called Wiki Preacher
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So any attacks lodged on those accounts are not visible.
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But a few were screenshotted before the attacks got taken down.
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And even though I understand G3's position of not wanting to highlight these accounts,
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maybe, you know, they're citing wanting to make a piece.
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And that's why I'm talking about this aspect of it.
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I think it's important for people to know exactly what we're talking about.
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So here's an example of a post that supposedly Josh Bice was putting out under the moniker
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A voice crying in the darkness was how he described this.
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The Wilson-Askel combo, he's talking about Doug Wilson up in Moscow, Idaho, Tom Askel down
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in Florida of Founders Ministries, trying to leech off the success of G3 by creating controversy
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It would be safe to say that Bice or G3 will not engage in similar ways.
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I wonder why people thought that this was Josh Bice during the next Founders Event or Moscow
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OK, and then here is a tweet that he supposedly allegedly sent under the moniker Wiki Preacher
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The Anon army is being fueled by Tom Askel and Founders, a little secret from the shadows.
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OK, so he has all kinds of posts like this, calling out people that I think he would have
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said in, you know, as Josh Bice, he would have said, these people are my friends.
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I mean, we certainly from the outside looking in would be saying they're all reformed.
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But just like anything else, there was some level of competition.
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Why would the Gospel Coalition need to be giving away tickets?
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The last announcement I heard from G3 is that they have 6,000 plus already and expecting 8,000
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I mean, maybe if you have low prices for the tickets.
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But again, I don't know everything about events, but I know something about events.
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And I know really popular events and popular people who, you know, they might get 2,000
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And so I think that there might be some inflation of numbers here.
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So it just seems to me like a lot of these accounts and sub stacks that he was operating,
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they worked as some kind of like PR for G3 and for Josh Bice.
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You actually see confirmation of who this is, this big Eva Secrets account.
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And the screenshot of that post where he's screenshotting an email to talk about the TGC numbers,
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So, I mean, that's a pretty good confirmation that this is Josh Bice.
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Um, I don't know what he was operating and everything that he was saying there.
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Um, and so, uh, yeah, I think there are a lot of people that came under fire, including
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I mean, it just seemed like he saw all of these really solid reformed pastors is competition.
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And there, to me, I, I read like a level of insecurity there that he really was trying
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And he did not have the courage, the ability to have clarity from his, you know, own non-anonymous
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And so he relied on anonymity and cowardice to make these kinds of, to make these kinds
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Founders Ministry released a statement calling Josh's activities sinful, deceitful, slanderous.
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Uh, they removed all of Josh's content from their own site, because again, I think they
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probably thought that Josh was a partner, G3 was a partner.
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And so they had platformed a lot of his stuff, um, his stuff as well.
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So obviously this is very sad for the people involved in G3.
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This is very sad for Praise Mill Baptist Church.
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Like that is a sweet, precious church with a lot of solid Christians.
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And whenever something like this happens, it rocks your faith for a bit.
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When someone has taught you a lot and has been a mentor to you, either virtually because
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you've been listening to their sermons, you've been reading their books, or maybe they are
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your direct pastor, it is really difficult to separate the wisdom that they have imparted
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And so when someone whose wisdom has helped you grow in your faith shows that they have
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a complete disconnect between the head and the heart, that's tough.
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And I think that sometimes we can be harsh when people deconstruct or when they fall away
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from their faith because they have endured some kind of scandal or they have endured genuine
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And while sometimes I do think that is used as an excuse for people to deconstruct and
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they just don't believe what the Bible says and they use past church hurt to justify their
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rebellion, I think that we do have to have understanding when people have questions and when people
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Because really, at the end of the day, this hurts the reputation of the church.
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And if anything you say or do puts the veracity of the gospel or the reliability of the gospel
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at risk in people's minds, then that's something to be ashamed of.
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Now, obviously, the gates of hell will never prevail against God's church.
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And we know that God is going to seek and save the lost.
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We know that he is going to work all things together for the good of those who love him,
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We know Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
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We know Job 42 too, that nothing can thwart God's plan.
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We know that God is refining his church, is cleansing his church, maybe is shattering some
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Maybe he is showing us, hey, you can't rely on man.
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You can't rely on the best expositors and the best theologians because they are sinful,
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You can only rely on me, the only infallible source.
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And we can't see everything that God is doing because when God is doing one thing, when it
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seems like he's doing one thing, he's actually doing a million things.
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And so we need to be praying for Praise Mel Baptist Church, praying for G3.
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Again, I think that they made really hard and good decisions in trying to be as transparent
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He is just absolutely a pillar when it comes to pro-life work and his heart for the unborn is
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so soft and he was doing really good things at G3.
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And as you can imagine, I've talked to Virgil a little bit, he's heartbroken over this.
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So please be praying for his family, his wife, his children, the church there, and be praying
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I know that there are some people in his circles, and maybe he's still thinking this
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I don't know that this is really not that big of a deal, that we're making a mountain out
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You were in perpetual and persistent sin when you lied and you covered up and you made divisions
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It's what the anonymous accounts were actually saying.
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And we know that the Bible warns against those who are intentionally creating divisions, not
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just by telling the truth, because the truth can absolutely divide, that's its nature, but
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by saying things that are untrue, saying things that are meant to cause dissension.
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As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing
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to do with him, nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful.
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That is Titus 3.10-11 and verse 9 actually is applicable.
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But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for
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And the person that engages in that and pushes that, especially anonymously, is not only condemned,
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And so pray for Josh that he would have real repentance and that we would be able to see
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Okay, now let's move into some happy things, because sometimes it just seems like the church
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has fallen apart because we have leader after leader that betrays us.
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But we have to remember, God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a
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hitch, that there's nothing that we can do, nothing that happens that ever surprises him,
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He's never coming in just to clean up the mess.
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Andrew Schultz, I think, is kind of like in the anti-woke world.
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We've had Wes Huff on the show after he was on Joe Rogan's podcast to talk about theology
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and apologetics, the historical evidence for the existence of Jesus.
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And he went on the Andrew Schultz podcast, who seems to be asking questions about Christianity
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So let me play you a couple clips from that episode, because I just loved the back and
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Christianity is the fittest stepping down and sacrificing himself for the survival of the
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And that changes things in that mercy and justice are not pitted against each other.
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They're actually accomplished together in the act of the cross, where the self-volunteering
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I mean, that's just like a beautiful picture of the gospel, a very important part of the
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And I don't know if Andrew Schultz and the people in that room understood everything he
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But we do know that the word of God doesn't return void.
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And it really doesn't matter exactly what we say.
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And if we repeat the word of God, that's the only way we can be sure that we are right
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So he's on this kind of bro podcast tour right now.
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I always wonder people who are interacting with Theo Vaughn, like if they truly feel awkward
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or if they're going along with the bit, I don't know.
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But it always ends up in like really great clips.
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And I think it would be a really perfect conversation.
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Wes also had a conversation with Andrew about John the Baptist.
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Did John the Baptist always know that Jesus was the son of God, the Messiah?
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And Wes Huff said that we didn't know for sure.
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And that really made me start thinking about John the Baptist and Jesus's relationship.
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Obviously, he did know at some point or on some level who Jesus was in the womb when
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he was in Elizabeth's womb, he kicked and he flipped around when Mary like entered the
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room and obviously he made the way for Jesus as the Savior and Messiah.
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But we don't know like what their adolescence was like.
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So I just love seeing Andrew Schultz's wheels turn.
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Non-believers ask really cool and original questions about the Bible that we didn't really
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OK, I've got another example of that in a second.
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Okay, so here's more of his explanation of the gospel that I really loved.
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God doesn't need to create, God doesn't need to forgive, God doesn't need to give mercy
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But the fact that he does, and then calls us all into that.
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Like, it's less of a, just don't do it anymore.
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It's what I talked about before with the Ten Commandments.
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Like, you're seeing it as a command, and God is saying, no, it's a promise.
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Those are promises that God makes to you because of who you are through what he can do.
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It's not that Christianity just makes you a better person or a different person.
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The old self passes away, and the new self is given to you by grace through faith in
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This is such an important concept and a very unique lens through which you can see the Old
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Testament commands as well as the New Testament gospel.
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Again, I just love how Wes Huff is sharing this with them.
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And I just pray for Andrew Schultz, and I pray for everyone on this journey.
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This political moment that we are in is making a lot of people second-guess what they previously
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I can't tell you how many times that I have gotten a message from someone who, whether
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it was in 2020 after all of that craziness happened, or whether it was this past election
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season where they started questioning their progressive presuppositions because they saw
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their worldview manifest itself in chaos and corruption, like through Black Lives Matter and a lot of
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the riots and the violence and the anti-racist racism that we saw so prominently in 2020, or
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they have seen Democrats come to actually openly celebrate abortion.
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And they've started to question, OK, like, is that really true?
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Or, OK, the Democrats have left me, or that's not what I thought progressivism meant.
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Or maybe they realized that they were kind of being led by that toxic empathy.
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And their questions politically and culturally and morally then led them to ask questions
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spiritually and led them to reading the Bible and really understanding what it says.
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There's a journalist who is definitely more liberal, and he shared on Instagram that I am
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a good person, that Allie B. Stuckey is a good person to follow because I'm not diehard MAGA,
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but there is a window into what conservative Christian women think.
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And there was this very sweet person who messaged me who said, after I reposted what this journalist
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said, this sweet person who messaged me said, yeah, I started listening to you five years ago
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because I hated you and I was hate watching you and I was hate listening to you.
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But I've seen that so much over the past few years, that people's minds and hearts are really
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And I just wonder if this political moment that we're in is causing people to second guess
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And Wes Huff is like the perfect man for this moment.
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As I said, he was on Joe Rogan and he talked about the evidence for Jesus and the evidence
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And in an interview recently that Joe Rogan had with another comedian, his name is Cody
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Tucker, they were talking about the Big Bang Theory.
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And Joe Rogan has been talking about evolution and believing that the earth is millions of years
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But then he starts to question the idea that all of this stuff came from absolutely nothing.
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It's funny because people would be incredulous about the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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But yet they're convinced that the entire universe was smaller than the head of a pen.
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And for no reason than anybody's adequately explained to me.
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And it makes sense why Jesus is called the Logos in John 1.
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Of course, it's more logical to believe that there is a supernatural transcendent power that
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is higher than us that actually created everything in existence.
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I really don't think that's difficult to believe at all.
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It is so difficult, actually, outside of the realm of human possibility or capacity, to
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imagine that all of this exists because of nothing.
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There was nothing higher than it that preexisted it, that made it, that caused it.
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Like, if I'm wrong and there really is no afterlife, I'm not risking anything.
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I have something that is helping me through suffering.
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And I know, obviously, that's not what the gospel in Christianity is.
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But if an atheist is wrong, and Jesus really is the way, the truth, and the life, as John
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14, 6 says, and if he really did rise from the dead, if you're wrong, and Christianity
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And so I don't know how much Joe Rogan really believes.
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But I wonder if his thinking is shifting on this, because I know he's cast doubt on the
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And so I wonder if his conversation with Wes Huff and with other people have actually made
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So let's pray for these people, because this is a really cool moment.
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Yes, we see failures within the church, but God never fails.
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And he turns hearts of stone into hearts of flesh.
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He has a 100% success rate, and we can trust in that and rejoice in that.
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He has chosen prayer and evangelism to be the mechanisms by which he allows people to know
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him, and we get to be the vessels of that truth.
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Okay, guys, thanks so much for listening and watching.
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We got really deep into that very interesting philosophical conversation.