Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1242 ｜ Christians, Rise Up. This Is the Moment

00:00:00.620 Peace through strength, clarity, courage.

00:00:04.500 That's what the world needs right now.

00:00:06.260 That's what the church understands right now.

00:00:08.400 Thankfully, J.D. Vance understands that.

00:00:11.440 We will hear from him today.

00:00:13.180 And I've got a message for you from the Word of God that I hope encourages you.

00:00:18.040 They're not my words.

00:00:19.560 They're not my thoughts.

00:00:20.720 They are God's thoughts.

00:00:22.740 And they give us so much boldness for today.

00:00:25.080 And so I hope this gives you the bravery that you need.

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00:00:45.660 Hey, guys.

00:00:46.480 Welcome to Relatable.

00:00:47.280 Happy Wednesday.

00:00:48.140 Hope everyone is having a great week so far.

00:00:51.100 Vice President J.D. Vance guest hosted Charlie Kirk's show yesterday.

00:00:56.500 And he had some words for the country and especially for those who are celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:01:05.240 Here's that one.

00:01:06.060 There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents' politics.

00:01:11.620 There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder.

00:01:17.260 There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend.

00:01:25.620 There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:01:30.620 And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers,

00:01:37.100 who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree.

00:01:48.300 He's absolutely right.

00:01:49.940 Look, as Christians, we are called to try to make peace with everyone.

00:01:53.620 But making peace with people does not mean being weak.

00:01:57.380 It doesn't mean being a doormat.

00:01:59.180 It means sometimes that we have to restrain evil and punish wickedness on behalf of the most vulnerable.

00:02:07.180 People get very confused sometimes about Jesus's commands to turn the other cheek and to forgive and to pray for our enemies and pray for those who persecute us.

00:02:16.200 All of those things are true.

00:02:17.700 All of those things are commands for the Christian and they are countercultural. 0.94

00:02:21.220 They are definitely against any kind of spirit of anger and bitterness and vengeance when it comes to our personal relationships.

00:02:30.600 People apply that wrongly to how the government is supposed to act.

00:02:35.600 When we say, well, we need to punish crime or we need to use the death penalty to punish those who commit this kind of murder,

00:02:43.740 people will say, well, Jesus said to turn the other cheek.

00:02:46.940 And I just want to take you through that logic for a second.

00:02:49.200 If you're saying that Jesus's commands apply to the government, then you would be saying that we should not punish crime at all.

00:02:57.640 Because if we should turn the other cheek when people commit these heinous crimes of rape or assault or murder,

00:03:05.200 that would mean that we also shouldn't put them in jail.

00:03:08.520 And surely I haven't met anyone yet who believes that.

00:03:12.480 So I think we have to think a little bit more deeply about what it means to make peace

00:03:17.400 and what it means to turn the other cheek.

00:03:19.880 What it actually means in these passages is to conduct ourselves in our interpersonal communication,

00:03:26.480 in our relationships with grace and forgiveness and foregoing all hypocrisy

00:03:32.480 and the kind of resentment that builds up between people,

00:03:35.880 understanding that God in Christ has forgiven us so much.

00:03:39.720 And so there is grace.

00:03:41.000 There is a possibility for repentance and for salvation and for spiritual mercy for this person who killed Charlie Kirk.

00:03:49.180 And I pray that.

00:03:50.340 I pray that the Holy Spirit would enter his heart, that he would change,

00:03:53.440 that he would see the gravity of what he did and the state of his sinful self apart from Christ bound for hell.

00:04:00.280 I pray that for him.

00:04:01.560 But that does not negate earthly justice.

00:04:04.920 Because what we see, specifically in Romans 13, that the state, the government, does not bear the sword in vain.

00:04:12.880 That is not an analogy.

00:04:14.580 That is not a metaphor.

00:04:16.340 The sword there is a symbol of execution.

00:04:19.160 And when we're talking specifically about this particular person that committed this crime against Charlie Kirk and committed this murder,

00:04:31.840 we go all the way back to Genesis 9 in the Noahic Covenant, before the establishment of Israel, before the establishment of any civilization.

00:04:39.320 When God says that if you commit murder, then you should be executed.

00:04:46.420 If you shed another's blood, if you shed the blood of an innocent person, then your blood will be shed.

00:04:51.760 Why?

00:04:52.820 It's not from any circumstantial reason.

00:04:55.740 It wasn't for some cultural reason.

00:04:58.260 It's for a reason that is still true today because man is made in God's image.

00:05:04.440 So I just want you to understand that, yes, as Christians, we should be peacemakers and we should seek to forgive.

00:05:12.300 That does not mean that we do not have the responsibility to compel and advocate to our government to exact earthly justice.

00:05:22.340 We've talked many times, especially in 2020.

00:05:25.620 What does biblical justice look like?

00:05:27.900 It's not social justice.

00:05:29.500 It's not collectively maligning one group because of their socioeconomic status or race.

00:05:34.440 And alleviating all guilt from another group.

00:05:38.220 It's not an oppressed versus oppressor dichotomy.

00:05:41.440 It's not taking away the wealth and the privilege from one group and trying to redistribute it to another group.

00:05:46.280 That's not what justice looks like.

00:05:47.720 We can look at God's law giving to Israel and his character throughout Scripture to look at what justice should look like.

00:05:53.980 If we are going to abide by the creator's rules that the founders abided by.

00:06:00.500 God's definition of justice is proportional.

00:06:03.140 Proportional, it is impartial, it is truthful, and it is direct.

00:06:07.300 Proportional, impartial, truthful, and direct.

00:06:11.320 People are very confused about what justice needs to look like today.

00:06:15.980 And even though J.D. Vance right there, he's not talking about the death penalty.

00:06:19.920 I don't think I know his personal stance on the death penalty, particularly as a Catholic.

00:06:24.780 Many Catholics are against it.

00:06:27.380 But I do hear him crying out for justice.

00:06:30.960 I do hear him emphasizing the government's job to restrain evil.

00:06:37.220 To do everything we can to root out evil.

00:06:39.380 That's the same thing I heard Stephen Miller say in the clip that we played on Monday.

00:06:43.100 So I appreciate this kind of strength.

00:06:45.580 This is not the time for kumbaya.

00:06:47.820 It's not the time for kumbaya.

00:06:49.280 I'm not saying that we should be trying to stoke division because ultimately this is not left versus right.

00:06:55.400 It's not.

00:06:56.260 It's good versus evil.

00:06:57.920 That's what it is.

00:06:58.920 And after George Floyd died, what did we see?

00:07:02.020 We saw arson.

00:07:03.240 We saw looting.

00:07:04.780 We saw destruction.

00:07:06.240 We saw violence.

00:07:07.580 We saw people scared to leave their homes.

00:07:09.340 We saw businesses boarding up their windows.

00:07:12.080 We saw people of all races be murdered by these rioters.

00:07:16.340 Never forget St. Louis police officer, former police officer David Dorn.

00:07:21.240 He was a black man who was killed by rioters.

00:07:25.540 Never forget Sequoia Turner.

00:07:27.420 She was a little eight-year-old girl who was killed by BLM rioters in Atlanta, Georgia a few years ago.

00:07:34.780 Has that happened in the wake of the death of one of the right's heroes?

00:07:39.280 George Floyd wasn't even a hero for the left.

00:07:41.740 He wasn't even someone that people knew.

00:07:43.860 He was just kind of a symbol of something that people on the left think is systemic, and it's actually not.

00:07:51.100 But Charlie Kirk, he was someone that millions and millions of people on our side around the world admired.

00:07:56.800 Have we seen anyone scared to leave their homes?

00:07:59.380 Have we seen any business board up their windows?

00:08:02.900 Are police officers scared for their lives right now?

00:08:06.580 Do we see violence in the streets?

00:08:08.740 Do we see plans of vengeance coming to fruition?

00:08:12.900 No.

00:08:14.320 It is good versus evil.

00:08:16.900 And it's about time that we see that.

00:08:19.240 And I love this kind of clear language from J.D. Vance.

00:08:23.240 To have this kind of moral clarity in the White House is so incredibly important.

00:08:30.360 It is so meaningful for a country.

00:08:32.780 And what I can pray is that justice, true, biblical, proportionate, impartial justice manifests itself.

00:08:41.720 And that this administration, if it accomplishes nothing else, that it would accomplish its godly responsibility, its God-given obligation to restrain evil on behalf of the most vulnerable.

00:08:55.780 I've always said that one way to love your neighbor, one way to love your neighbor is to fight crime.

00:09:03.500 One way to show compassion for the most vulnerable, to stand up for the truly marginalized, the truly defenseless, is to do everything you can to stop violence in the streets and to protect them from those who give no regard to their well-being.

00:09:20.760 And so this is the righteous obligation of the government to do what they can to put a stop to evil.

00:09:27.960 Okay, we've got a lot more to say about J.D. Vance's comments on Charlie Kirk's podcast.

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00:12:17.480 Okay, so he's got a word for the people who are celebrating or excusing or downplaying

00:12:28.380 in any way this horrible assassination sought for.

00:12:33.420 So when you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out in hell.

00:12:38.060 Call their employer.

00:12:39.340 We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.

00:12:43.420 And there is no civility in the celebration of political assassination.

00:12:47.040 It's what I said yesterday.

00:12:50.100 It's what a lot of people have been saying, that there are consequences for celebrating

00:12:56.280 someone's assassination.

00:12:57.680 It's not cancel culture.

00:12:59.380 It's not your political opinion.

00:13:01.280 No, you've got a character problem.

00:13:02.800 Like, you're probably possessed by a demon.

00:13:04.600 And if you're possessed by a demon, I don't want you to be a pediatric nurse.

00:13:07.640 Call me crazy.

00:13:09.660 Like, I don't want you to be a therapist.

00:13:12.340 I don't want you working at the old folks' home. 1.00

00:13:14.240 I don't want you to be a kindergarten teacher.

00:13:15.840 I don't want you to be a professor shaping the minds of future leaders and voters.

00:13:20.180 No, thank you.

00:13:21.360 No, thank you.

00:13:21.940 It's a character problem.

00:13:23.320 It's a liability for everyone involved.

00:13:26.820 So yes, you should be calling the employer of people who are out and out celebrating or

00:13:32.860 excusing Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:13:35.240 There has to be social ostracization for those people.

00:13:39.580 As Stephen Miller said yesterday, we will not live in fear, but you will live in exile.

00:13:44.140 That is what the justice system is for when people are actually committing crimes.

00:13:49.940 I'm not talking about punishing people legally for their speech, but when people are actually

00:13:54.760 committing crimes, these cells of violence and radicalization that we're seeing across

00:13:58.280 the country, our justice system is supposed to go after those. 0.98

00:14:01.580 And when it comes to people who are celebrating this assassination, there are social consequences

00:14:07.340 for that.

00:14:08.620 Overton window is shifting, baby.

00:14:11.100 And if you didn't want that to happen, shouldn't have killed the nicest guy on the right.

00:14:16.040 All right.

00:14:16.800 He's got more to say.

00:14:18.220 Here's top five.

00:14:18.980 St. Paul tells us in the book of Ephesians to put on the full armor of God.

00:14:26.500 Let all of us put on that armor and commit ourselves to that cause for which Charlie gave

00:14:32.160 his life, to rebuild a united states of America and to do it by telling the truth.

00:14:39.380 Yep.

00:14:41.840 Speaking the truth in love.

00:14:45.100 Don't partner with darkness, but instead expose it.

00:14:49.600 That's what the book of Ephesians tells us to do.

00:14:51.320 There's so much wisdom in the book of Ephesians.

00:14:53.560 My friend and I, I feel like I've probably told you this before, but I can't remember.

00:14:57.920 My friend and I, when we were in college, we decided to memorize the whole book of Ephesians,

00:15:02.440 which I don't think there's another book that I've memorized in full.

00:15:05.440 I've memorized lots of bits and pieces of the Bible over time, but we decided to memorize

00:15:10.760 and recite to each other just for fun, the entire book of Ephesians.

00:15:15.000 And y'all, I am so thankful that I did that.

00:15:17.860 I really encourage you to challenge yourself in that way because you have heard me do it.

00:15:22.520 You've heard me just tell you Ephesians 2, and I keep going and going because like 13

00:15:28.100 years ago, my friend and I decided to memorize it and recite it.

00:15:32.140 And it really does hide the word in your heart.

00:15:34.120 And you're just reminded of the gospel all the time.

00:15:37.340 You're reminded of these verses all of the time because you have it locked away in your

00:15:43.740 head.

00:15:44.100 So, wow, what a gift it is to hide God's word in your heart and how amazing it is that

00:15:48.800 it is living and active, that every time something happens, it bubbles up.

00:15:54.680 And God is so good that he has given us his will in his word so that we don't have to wonder

00:15:59.560 what he thinks or wonder what to do next.

00:16:02.180 But this ancient text that is always applicable to us in every single moment is ministering

00:16:09.140 to our hearts when we read Scripture and when we memorize Scripture.

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00:17:01.140 But it's so important to know and understand truth right now.

00:17:05.200 So there's this other clip from J.D. Vance where he basically recites the Nicene Creed,

00:17:11.960 and the Nicene Creed in general is what unites kind of Catholics and Protestants that generally

00:17:17.420 we agree on the principles here.

00:17:19.300 So I thought that this was really good.

00:17:21.020 I mean, this is so much of the gospel that is being publicized in Charlie's name to millions

00:17:27.040 of people.

00:17:27.480 So praise God for that.

00:17:28.520 Now, the most important truth Charlie told is this, that long ago, a man begotten, not

00:17:36.880 made, came down from heaven and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary and

00:17:43.800 became man.

00:17:45.060 For our sake, he was crucified under Pontius Pilate and suffered death and was buried and

00:17:51.080 rose again on the third day.

00:17:52.520 Charlie believed, as I do, that all the truth he told flowed from that fundamental principle.

00:18:03.720 Yes, and amen.

00:18:05.060 So I just thought that was a beautiful tribute.

00:18:07.040 I thought that it balanced strength and faith and hope and peace really well.

00:18:13.220 Again, a muscular peace, not a doormat peace.

00:18:16.660 And that is what we need right now.

00:18:18.520 We need peace through strength, not just externally, but internally as well.

00:18:23.240 As I've said before, when, you know, before Charlie, like we all thought on the right, we

00:18:29.640 were bringing words, we were bringing beliefs, but they were bringing weapons and they were

00:18:34.260 bringing bullets.

00:18:35.320 And this is a very different battle than the one that we thought.

00:18:40.680 And we still want peace.

00:18:42.540 We still want civility.

00:18:44.080 We don't want a civil war here.

00:18:45.740 But again, in order to do that, we have to root out evil.

00:18:50.160 Now, on Monday, we talked about all of the revival, the awakening that we are seeing across

00:18:55.620 the country.

00:18:56.360 These so many people who have reached out to me personally, people that I've known in

00:19:00.480 life, also just followers and fans sending me messages saying, I'm going to church.

00:19:05.460 I'm reading my Bible.

00:19:06.760 I'm praying.

00:19:07.760 I dreamed about Charlie.

00:19:09.220 This shook me.

00:19:10.260 Um, I was talking to my makeup artist this morning and she was so deeply affected by Charlie's

00:19:16.160 death.

00:19:16.480 And of course she didn't, she didn't know him personally, but it is comforting to me when

00:19:22.480 I talk to so many people who feel because Charlie was murdered that they lost something.

00:19:29.480 And it's sad, of course, but the reason that it is assuring is because I know that this

00:19:35.620 has changed everything, it's changed everything ultimately, I think, in a way that God will

00:19:43.020 bring glory to himself and that will lead to change that will be good for the country.

00:19:48.800 Now, would I have chosen, would anyone have chosen for it to go this way?

00:19:53.080 No, absolutely not.

00:19:55.360 I hate that Charlie was an impetus for anything.

00:19:58.320 I wish that there could have been a revival and reawakening without this.

00:20:03.280 And I do think that that had already kind of been started, but again, God is in the

00:20:08.860 business of redemption.

00:20:10.360 He is in the business of making beauty out of ashes and thwarting Satan's schemes.

00:20:15.760 And when Satan thinks he's winning, when he thinks that he's taken someone out of the

00:20:19.820 fight, God does something good.

00:20:23.360 God does something incredible by bringing glory to himself.

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00:21:44.920 I just want to play you this clip of Forrest Frank.

00:21:48.040 A lot of people are saying that they lost followers, they lost friends, they had to block

00:21:53.620 people because they said something about Charlie Kirk.

00:21:58.300 And, you know, Forrest, as I've talked about, we did a segment, Charlie and I did, on Fox and

00:22:03.760 Friends on the rise in Christian music.

00:22:07.040 And I said that there is genuinely good music now that is glorifying God.

00:22:11.400 And I talked about going to a Forrest Frank concert and Charlie had talked about Forrest

00:22:16.240 Frank before.

00:22:17.180 And so Forrest just did this kind of like a dedication video to Charlie, didn't make a

00:22:22.660 political statement or anything like that.

00:22:24.960 And I guess he got backlash.

00:22:27.020 Well, after he got backlash, this is what Forrest had to say.

00:22:30.100 30,000 people unfollowed me because I posted about Charlie Kirk and I said that Jesus Christ

00:22:35.940 is Lord.

00:22:36.980 Good.

00:22:37.820 I don't want you to follow me.

00:22:39.600 I don't want you to track my music.

00:22:41.300 I don't want you to come to my shows.

00:22:43.640 I don't want you to do any of that if you don't do this one thing.

00:22:46.580 And that is follow Jesus Christ, the King of all kings, the Lord of all lords, the one

00:22:51.000 who is the one who is to come.

00:22:52.700 He's coming back real soon.

00:22:54.120 So if you have not gotten your heart right with him and dropped down on your knees and

00:22:57.900 repented to him, today is the day.

00:23:00.680 The hour is at hand.

00:23:02.200 I don't know if you can feel it, too.

00:23:03.580 There's a heaviness.

00:23:04.420 Something shifted.

00:23:05.520 And I don't care.

00:23:06.480 I don't care anymore.

00:23:07.460 I just want you to know that Jesus Christ is here and he loves you.

00:23:11.480 Okay, like that's just I just want y'all to know out there, especially y'all who just

00:23:15.540 maybe aren't plugged into our side of things.

00:23:18.180 That's the vibe.

00:23:19.520 Okay, like that's the shift.

00:23:21.240 That's what's happening.

00:23:22.460 And the fact that he said that he repents for not being bolder in his platform, someone

00:23:27.860 that I think very unapologetically shares the gospel, but maybe he feels like he's been

00:23:32.420 reticent to say some things that are true for fear of backlash, like that is really big.

00:23:37.820 And I just appreciate that so much.

00:23:40.920 Elisa Childers, she's going to be speaking at Share the Arrows.

00:23:43.560 She's an apologist.

00:23:44.440 She's amazing.

00:23:45.320 She posted on X a confession that a few years ago she was asked to speak at a conference

00:23:50.460 with Charlie, but she believed some of the progressive lies about Charlie, that he was

00:23:54.460 divisive or alt-right or whatever it was.

00:23:57.460 And she said no.

00:23:58.820 And you know what she did?

00:23:59.860 She did the only thing that we can ever do when we mess up, when we make a mistake, when

00:24:03.680 we believe things that aren't true.

00:24:05.000 She apologized.

00:24:05.580 And she said this was to her shame and that she was wrong about Charlie and that she watched

00:24:12.400 all this footage of Charlie and realized that he was a minister of the gospel, that he wanted

00:24:17.260 people to be saved.

00:24:18.900 And so people are waking up.

00:24:20.140 And I'm not just talking about non-Christians waking up. 0.98

00:24:22.540 I am talking about Christians.

00:24:24.420 I am talking about Christians who have been shaken because of this.

00:24:27.400 They've been shaken out of their stupor.

00:24:29.100 They've been shaken out of their cowardice.

00:24:31.400 And I feel like I have been even more reinvigorated.

00:24:37.580 I mean, at first, my reaction, of course, was fear and anxiety.

00:24:42.200 And there is a part of that because I'm human.

00:24:44.720 But gosh, this has so firmly established the importance of bold truth tellers.

00:24:52.400 And this has awakened, I think, this just spirit of courage.

00:24:57.180 And courage is a contagion.

00:24:58.980 And when it hits one person, that torch is passed to the next and the next.

00:25:03.540 And I've been thinking about this quote that I heard from my friend, Seth Gruber.

00:25:09.220 He has an organization, a pro-life organization called the White Rose Resistance.

00:25:13.740 And he got this name from the White Rose Resistance of Christians in Germany who fought against

00:25:19.940 the Nazis at the time.

00:25:21.760 And Hans and Sophie Scholl were these young 22 and 24-year-old brother and sister pair that

00:25:28.980 who were advocates against the Nazis.

00:25:30.920 And they were beheaded for their advocacy for fighting against Nazism and fighting on behalf

00:25:37.920 of their fellow image bearers of God in Germany.

00:25:40.260 They were beheaded in 1943.

00:25:43.020 At the age of 22, Sophie Scholl wrote a letter to her mother explaining what the real problem is.

00:25:52.320 She said that the real problem weren't the evildoers, but the cowards.

00:25:58.460 She wrote,

00:25:59.260 The real damage is done by those millions who just want to survive. 0.99

00:26:03.340 The honest men who just want to be left in peace.

00:26:06.560 Those who don't want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves.

00:26:10.860 Those with no size and no causes.

00:26:13.500 Those who won't take measure of their own strength for fear of antagonizing their own weakness.

00:26:18.640 Those who don't like to make waves or enemies.

00:26:22.500 Those for whom freedom, honor, truth, and principles are only literature.

00:26:27.740 If you don't make any noise, the boogeyman won't find you.

00:26:30.860 But it's all an illusion.

00:26:32.700 Because they die too.

00:26:34.360 Those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe.

00:26:38.180 Safe?

00:26:39.340 From what?

00:26:40.680 Life is always on the edge of death.

00:26:42.360 Narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues.

00:26:45.180 And a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does.

00:26:53.320 Sophie's bravery, her death, helped fan the flame of Nazi opposition throughout the world.

00:27:02.700 And I just want to remind you, Christian, that your heritage is not one of cowardice.

00:27:09.180 It is not one of ambiguity.

00:27:12.800 Your heritage is one of courage.

00:27:15.620 It's one of boldness.

00:27:17.000 It's one of bravery.

00:27:18.020 I think a lot of people can look out at the chaos of our world and say, it's never been worse than this.

00:27:23.480 Things are accelerating.

00:27:24.740 They're getting darker than they've ever been before.

00:27:26.920 And it's harder to share the gospel than ever.

00:27:28.740 It's harder to live like a Christian than ever. 1.00

00:27:31.040 And you just can't overcome this fear.

00:27:32.940 Let me remind you that Christians used to be fed to lions. 1.00

00:27:35.800 Let me remind you that Christians used to be beheaded and their heads placed on top of stakes and lit on fire.

00:27:45.160 Let me remind you that Christians have been tortured, that they've been butchered, that they have been betrayed, that they have been bruised and battered for their faith.

00:27:56.940 Let me remind you of the fate of our Lord, who was full of grace and truth, who only shared truth, who healed the sick, who helped the poor, who touched the untouchable.

00:28:09.880 He was the kindest and most loving individual that ever lived, that ever walked the earth.

00:28:17.220 And yet he was crucified.

00:28:20.180 And I also want to go to Acts 7 and 8.

00:28:23.460 I've been thinking a lot over the past few days about Stephen.

00:28:30.520 Stephen, who is described as being full of grace and power.

00:28:36.220 Acts 6, 8 through 15.

00:28:39.880 Stephen, full of grace and power, was doing great wonders and signs among the people.

00:28:45.460 Then some of those who belonged to the synagogue of the freedmen, as it was called, and others, paraphrasing that part, rose up and disputed with Stephen.

00:28:53.780 But they could not withstand the wisdom and the spirit with which he was speaking.

00:28:59.800 Then they secretly instigated men who said,

00:29:02.140 We have not heard him speak blasphemous words.

00:29:04.080 We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses and God, which, of course, was not true.

00:29:08.400 And they stirred up the people and the elders and the scribes.

00:29:11.060 And they came upon him and seized him and brought him before the council.

00:29:13.740 And they set up false witnesses who said,

00:29:16.360 This man never ceases to speak words against this holy place and the law.

00:29:20.420 For we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and will change the customs that Moses delivered to us.

00:29:27.740 And gazing at him, all who sat in the council saw that his face was like the face of an angel.

00:29:34.660 And then Stephen took this opportunity to share the gospel.

00:29:39.040 He laid it all out.

00:29:40.080 He said,

00:29:40.440 This is what the prophet said.

00:29:41.920 This is the road through the Old Testament from the very beginning until our Messiah, this Jesus, arrived and you rejected him.

00:29:50.000 Verses 51 through 53.

00:29:53.620 You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit as your fathers did.

00:30:00.160 So do you.

00:30:01.940 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute?

00:30:05.460 And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the righteous one, whom you have now betrayed and murdered,

00:30:11.600 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it.

00:30:15.700 So Stephen, out of love for these people, out of a love for God, out of a desire for these people to know truth and accept Jesus as the Messiah,

00:30:26.840 he hurt their feelings.

00:30:29.260 So they falsely accused him.

00:30:31.040 They called him a blasphemer.

00:30:32.340 Maybe in our day they would have called him a bigot.

00:30:35.480 And what happened to him?

00:30:37.300 This person, Stephen, who had a face like an angel, who was so peaceful, so calm and full of grace and power.

00:30:44.720 Wouldn't all of us want to be described that way as full of grace and power?

00:30:48.080 He was stoned to death.

00:30:50.140 They were so angry that they executed him.

00:30:52.700 Jesus, full of grace and truth.

00:30:54.500 Again, what a description.

00:30:56.440 Was crucified.

00:30:57.820 Over and over again, we see that no matter how kind Christians are, no matter how nice we are, no matter how perfect our tone is,

00:31:04.900 no matter how much we plead with people,

00:31:06.860 there will be people because they don't understand the truth, because they don't know the truth,

00:31:11.240 because they are depraved in mind, who will want to kill us.

00:31:15.620 That is the pattern for Christianity. 0.98

00:31:17.740 So anyone out there who would like to say, well, Charlie was killed because of how he spoke,

00:31:22.780 because he was divisive, because of his politics.

00:31:25.720 No, Charlie was killed because he was a forth-telling prophet.

00:31:29.820 And because the prophet in so many different eras has been murdered, has been executed.

00:31:38.560 I'm not claiming that he was a foretelling prophet, that he could see the future,

00:31:42.420 but a forth-telling prophet.

00:31:44.160 Through the power of the Holy Spirit, he was able to give such prescient and precise language

00:31:50.120 to describe the evil spirit of the age and to call people to repentance.

00:31:55.440 And because of that, he made people very angry.

00:31:59.900 And that is why I believe he was killed.

00:32:03.420 And that is the history of Christianity.

00:32:06.100 But the history of Christianity doesn't stop with someone being killed.

00:32:09.780 The history of Christianity starts with not Jesus' crucifixion, but his resurrection.

00:32:15.500 And because of that, we see the manifestation of the resurrection

00:32:19.560 throughout the past 2,000 years of Christian history,

00:32:22.300 that when Christians are killed, Christians are multiplied. 0.67

00:32:26.900 Christians tell the truth, Christians are killed, and then Christians are multiplied. 1.00

00:32:31.600 That's the pattern.

00:32:32.860 That's the pattern that we are seeing right now.

00:32:34.740 We are living through the same cycle that Christians have lived through for years.

00:32:38.560 And what a blessed privilege that we get to be vessels of courage,

00:32:42.220 of sharing that same gospel,

00:32:44.240 and making sure that God's purpose of multiplication happens.

00:32:49.460 Wow, what a terrifying age, but what a privileged moment that we get to live in.

00:32:56.560 Let us not fail.

00:32:59.000 Let us not falter.

00:33:00.740 Let us not shrink back.

00:33:02.440 Let us not cower in fear.

00:33:04.080 Let us meet this moment with the fullness of strength of the power of the Holy Spirit

00:33:08.880 that God has placed in all of us,

00:33:10.720 that God has placed in every single believer for the past 2,000 years.

00:33:15.960 From Nero to Newsome, Jesus reigns. 0.95

00:33:18.480 From Herod to Harris, the Holy Spirit is alive and well in the lives of believers.

00:33:26.080 All right, I've got more encouragement for us in just a second.

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00:34:39.640 I just want to remind you

00:34:47.000 that God's eternal plan of redemption

00:34:48.720 is going off without a hitch.

00:34:51.920 Again, He's not surprised.

00:34:53.440 He's not taken aback.

00:34:54.520 He's not thrown off.

00:34:56.020 He's not looking down and wondering

00:34:57.780 what is going to happen next.

00:35:00.180 When it seems like God is doing one thing,

00:35:02.380 He's actually doing a million things.

00:35:04.060 And through the unseen and unsung

00:35:06.140 daily mundane work of believers,

00:35:08.920 He is accomplishing His purposes.

00:35:10.680 And let us remember this,

00:35:12.160 that what God sets out to do, He does.

00:35:15.000 The will He wants to accomplish, He accomplishes.

00:35:18.360 Christ will win. 1.00

00:35:21.080 Christ will claim what is His. 0.97

00:35:23.200 He will bring the entirety of His flock to Himself. 0.99

00:35:28.000 He will make all things new.

00:35:30.400 He will set all things right.

00:35:33.020 One day through Christ, we win.

00:35:35.560 One day through Christ, we inherit the earth.

00:35:38.300 One day this dark night will be over

00:35:40.520 and we will wake up in a new heaven

00:35:43.440 and a new earth where there's no more sin

00:35:45.920 and there's no more sadness

00:35:47.320 and there's no more sorrow

00:35:48.800 and there's no more murder or assassination

00:35:51.120 or abortion or depravity

00:35:53.980 or injustice or oppression.

00:35:56.920 Everything will be made perfect

00:35:59.300 because Jesus wins.

00:36:01.780 Jesus wins. 0.94

00:36:02.760 That is our hope.

00:36:05.420 That is what we cling to.

00:36:06.720 One day we will stand shoulder to shoulder

00:36:08.700 with Charlie,

00:36:10.740 with the Christians who have gone before us,

00:36:13.260 with all of these giants of the faith

00:36:15.520 that we've lost this year.

00:36:16.700 Gosh, John MacArthur

00:36:17.980 and James Dobson

00:36:21.580 and Phil Robertson

00:36:23.100 and we will stand with the butchered

00:36:25.200 and the betrayed

00:36:26.060 and the bruised

00:36:28.040 and the battered for their faith

00:36:30.100 and we will sing in unison

00:36:31.840 for all of eternity.

00:36:33.200 Holy, holy, holy

00:36:34.320 is the Lord God Almighty

00:36:35.880 who was and is

00:36:38.060 and is to come.

00:36:40.700 Now we are in the lion's den,

00:36:42.560 but then we will be

00:36:43.660 with the lion of Judah.

00:36:46.740 That's our hope.

00:36:48.220 We're not there yet.

00:36:50.580 Jesus is not back.

00:36:51.640 God has not chosen

00:36:54.320 yet

00:36:55.940 to take you or I home.

00:37:01.140 And so we have work to do.

00:37:04.400 We have truth to tell.

00:37:06.180 We have good to do

00:37:07.660 to our neighbor.

00:37:09.980 We have evil to restrain.

00:37:12.420 We have to stand up

00:37:13.800 for the most vulnerable

00:37:15.080 even when it's hard,

00:37:17.440 even when they threaten us.

00:37:19.540 I was reading Hebrews 11

00:37:21.160 actually right before

00:37:22.500 I went on Fox and Friends

00:37:23.580 on Sunday

00:37:24.020 to talk about this revival

00:37:25.580 of faith that we're seeing

00:37:26.560 in the wake of Charlie's assassination.

00:37:29.580 I was sitting there waiting

00:37:30.940 and reading Hebrews 11

00:37:32.600 on my phone.

00:37:33.800 It just reminded me

00:37:34.800 so much

00:37:35.420 of the moment

00:37:36.180 that we're in

00:37:36.720 and it reminded me

00:37:37.440 in a lot of ways

00:37:38.160 of Charlie's ministry.

00:37:40.580 We're talking about faith

00:37:41.820 and maybe you're new

00:37:42.780 to Christianity,

00:37:43.680 maybe you're new

00:37:44.160 to the Bible

00:37:44.600 and you just don't even know

00:37:45.620 what is it,

00:37:46.460 what is faith?

00:37:47.640 What is meant by that?

00:37:48.600 Hebrews 11

00:37:49.120 is a really good place

00:37:50.020 to start

00:37:50.440 because it defines it.

00:37:52.100 I love the Bible so much

00:37:53.480 for so many reasons

00:37:54.460 but one of the reasons

00:37:55.920 I love it

00:37:56.420 is because it defines

00:37:57.380 things for us

00:37:58.140 and defining our terms

00:37:59.140 is so important.

00:38:01.480 Here's Hebrews 11 0.96

00:38:02.440 1 through 3.

00:38:03.020 Now faith is the assurance

00:38:04.300 of things hoped for,

00:38:05.280 the conviction

00:38:05.880 of things not seen.

00:38:07.440 For by it the people of old 1.00

00:38:08.600 received their commendation.

00:38:10.060 By faith we understand

00:38:11.160 that the universe

00:38:11.760 was created

00:38:12.400 by the word of God

00:38:13.400 so that what is seen

00:38:15.160 was not made

00:38:16.900 out of things

00:38:17.920 that are visible.

00:38:18.680 Oh my gosh,

00:38:19.960 I just want to read

00:38:20.720 that again.

00:38:21.260 Like there's so much

00:38:21.980 there that we could unpack.

00:38:23.020 Now faith is the assurance

00:38:24.160 of things hoped for.

00:38:25.460 Okay?

00:38:25.740 The down payment,

00:38:26.700 the guarantee

00:38:27.160 of the things

00:38:27.780 that we are hoping for,

00:38:28.740 the conviction,

00:38:30.020 the knowledge,

00:38:31.100 the firm belief

00:38:32.060 of things

00:38:32.520 that we cannot see.

00:38:34.780 For by it the people

00:38:35.740 of old

00:38:36.340 received their commendation.

00:38:38.100 Okay?

00:38:38.340 This is really important.

00:38:40.020 You can cross-text this

00:38:41.440 with cross-reference this

00:38:42.800 with Romans 9.

00:38:43.740 You see that it has

00:38:44.440 always been by faith,

00:38:46.020 even in the Old Testament,

00:38:47.000 by faith in Christ,

00:38:48.280 even in the Messiah

00:38:49.840 that people have been saved.

00:38:52.100 By faith we understand

00:38:53.540 that the universe

00:38:54.180 was created

00:38:54.900 by the word of God.

00:38:57.120 Okay?

00:38:57.860 So that what is seen

00:38:59.820 was not made

00:39:01.100 out of things

00:39:01.780 that are visible.

00:39:02.540 Wow.

00:39:02.760 You could even

00:39:03.360 cross-reference this

00:39:04.500 with Colossians 1.

00:39:06.600 You could also

00:39:07.380 cross-reference this

00:39:09.340 with 1 Corinthians 1

00:39:11.100 that God shames

00:39:12.040 the wisdom of the wise.

00:39:13.520 There's so much here.

00:39:14.320 There's so much here.

00:39:15.320 And I love the Bible so much.

00:39:17.020 And if you just ordered

00:39:17.860 your Bible for the first time,

00:39:19.380 you are in

00:39:19.980 for so much fun.

00:39:22.100 Verses 8 through 10.

00:39:23.800 This is just amazing.

00:39:24.920 When we read

00:39:25.640 what it looks like

00:39:26.480 to have faith

00:39:27.060 and how the heroes

00:39:27.900 of old

00:39:28.520 applied faith

00:39:29.400 to their lives.

00:39:30.660 By faith Abraham

00:39:31.980 obeyed

00:39:32.800 when he was called

00:39:33.920 to go out

00:39:34.540 to a place

00:39:35.120 that he was to receive

00:39:36.340 as an inheritance.

00:39:37.520 And he went out

00:39:38.220 not knowing

00:39:38.820 where he was going.

00:39:39.960 By faith he went

00:39:40.680 to live in the land

00:39:41.360 of promise

00:39:41.840 as in a foreign land,

00:39:42.900 living in tents

00:39:43.540 with Isaac and Jacob

00:39:44.480 heirs with him

00:39:45.300 of the same promise

00:39:46.100 for he was looking forward

00:39:47.580 to the city

00:39:48.200 that has foundations

00:39:49.460 whose designer

00:39:50.640 and builder

00:39:51.360 is God.

00:39:52.920 So his eyes,

00:39:54.200 his heart,

00:39:54.860 his vision

00:39:55.380 was set on things

00:39:56.640 that were not yet seen.

00:39:59.500 By faith Abraham

00:40:00.440 when he was tested

00:40:01.480 offered up Isaac

00:40:02.420 and he who had

00:40:04.300 received the promises

00:40:05.320 was in the act

00:40:06.100 of offering up

00:40:06.740 his only son

00:40:07.600 of whom it was said

00:40:08.460 through Isaac

00:40:09.000 shall your offspring

00:40:09.740 be named.

00:40:10.340 So Abraham 0.68

00:40:11.220 had this son Isaac

00:40:12.560 in his very old age

00:40:14.080 which was crazy anyway

00:40:15.180 and God had told him

00:40:16.880 look up at the stars

00:40:17.620 this is going to be

00:40:18.800 your offspring

00:40:19.240 one day

00:40:20.400 and Abraham is like

00:40:21.540 well I'm really old

00:40:22.460 my wife is really old 0.87

00:40:23.680 I don't have any kids

00:40:25.160 how is this going to happen?

00:40:26.720 We learn that

00:40:27.380 he is going to have

00:40:28.800 this offspring

00:40:29.280 through Isaac

00:40:29.920 and then God is like

00:40:31.240 yeah you're going

00:40:31.620 to sacrifice Isaac

00:40:32.520 you're going to kill Isaac

00:40:33.640 and Abraham

00:40:34.640 because he trusts God

00:40:36.240 so much

00:40:37.640 he goes forth

00:40:39.200 it says that Abraham

00:40:40.400 considered that God

00:40:41.240 was able even to

00:40:42.260 raise Isaac from the dead

00:40:43.380 if he wanted to

00:40:44.160 from which figuratively

00:40:45.940 speaking he did

00:40:46.820 receive him back

00:40:47.580 and of course

00:40:48.220 God provided another way

00:40:49.740 he provided a sacrifice

00:40:51.060 he provided the ram

00:40:52.340 and the thicket

00:40:53.040 and there's so much

00:40:54.680 there too

00:40:55.180 we even read in

00:40:56.400 verses 24 through 27

00:40:57.680 that by faith

00:40:58.560 Moses considered

00:40:59.780 the reproach of Christ

00:41:01.060 okay Moses

00:41:01.840 this is before Jesus

00:41:03.020 but he considered

00:41:04.140 the reproach of Christ

00:41:05.160 greater wealth

00:41:06.080 than the treasures of Egypt

00:41:07.060 for he was looking

00:41:07.960 to the reward

00:41:09.280 by faith he left Egypt

00:41:12.240 not being afraid

00:41:13.140 of the anger of the king

00:41:14.100 for he endured

00:41:14.960 as seeing him

00:41:16.280 who is invisible

00:41:17.460 by faith the people

00:41:18.320 crossed the Red Sea

00:41:19.140 as on dry land

00:41:20.000 but the Egyptians

00:41:20.680 when they attempted

00:41:21.340 to do the same

00:41:22.220 were drowned

00:41:23.080 by faith the walls

00:41:23.960 of Jericho fell down

00:41:25.060 after they had been

00:41:26.040 encircled for seven days

00:41:27.360 and then I think

00:41:29.120 this is so powerful too

00:41:30.320 it was like I was

00:41:31.100 reading Hebrews 11

00:41:32.040 for the first time

00:41:33.100 verses 32 through 38

00:41:35.820 and what more shall I say

00:41:37.200 for time would fail me

00:41:38.700 to tell of Gideon

00:41:39.720 Barak Samson

00:41:40.740 Jephthah

00:41:41.320 of David and Samuel

00:41:42.940 and the prophets

00:41:43.520 who through faith

00:41:44.500 conquered kingdoms

00:41:45.320 enforced justice

00:41:46.980 through faith

00:41:48.580 wow

00:41:48.800 obtained promises

00:41:49.820 stopped the mouths

00:41:51.100 of lions

00:41:51.740 quenched the power

00:41:52.740 of the fire

00:41:53.400 escaped the edge

00:41:54.240 of the sword

00:41:54.780 were made strong

00:41:55.540 out of weakness

00:41:56.200 became mighty in war

00:41:57.820 put foreign armies

00:41:59.060 to flight

00:41:59.580 women received back 0.94

00:42:01.000 their dead

00:42:01.400 by resurrection

00:42:02.400 some were tortured

00:42:03.620 refusing to accept

00:42:05.000 release

00:42:05.340 so that they might

00:42:06.120 rise again

00:42:06.720 to a better life

00:42:07.660 others suffered

00:42:09.200 mocking and flogging

00:42:10.480 and even change

00:42:11.780 and imprisonment

00:42:12.740 they were stoned

00:42:14.300 they were sawn

00:42:15.020 in two

00:42:16.140 they were killed

00:42:16.740 with the sword

00:42:17.440 they went about

00:42:18.340 in skins of sheep

00:42:19.240 and goats

00:42:19.600 destitute

00:42:20.160 afflicted

00:42:20.760 mistreated

00:42:21.260 of whom the world

00:42:22.400 was not worthy

00:42:23.420 wandering about

00:42:25.420 in deserts

00:42:26.140 and mountains

00:42:26.760 and dens

00:42:27.500 and caves

00:42:28.340 of the earth

00:42:29.200 wow

00:42:30.960 that is our

00:42:32.240 heritage

00:42:32.620 Christians

00:42:33.320 by faith

00:42:34.960 Christians

00:42:35.720 accomplished

00:42:36.160 amazing things

00:42:36.980 and by faith

00:42:37.900 they endured

00:42:38.540 suffering

00:42:39.200 and death

00:42:40.200 and persecution

00:42:41.340 and martyrdom

00:42:42.980 by faith

00:42:44.540 in whom

00:42:45.060 and Jesus Christ

00:42:46.160 who defeated death

00:42:46.980 and because of that

00:42:48.280 we have faith

00:42:49.720 we have hope

00:42:50.700 not only in the

00:42:51.420 cleansing of our sins

00:42:52.260 but that we will

00:42:53.620 enjoy a resurrection

00:42:54.720 that we will

00:42:55.760 live again

00:42:56.560 that we will live

00:42:57.200 forever with Christ

00:42:58.360 that is our motivation

00:43:00.180 that is why

00:43:00.880 we are fearless

00:43:01.520 it's not primarily

00:43:02.480 because of what

00:43:03.120 happened with Charlie

00:43:03.940 that might have

00:43:04.480 invigorated something

00:43:05.560 it's because of the gospel

00:43:06.580 it's because of the hope

00:43:07.840 that we have in Jesus

00:43:08.680 I've got more on this

00:43:10.160 in just a second

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00:43:58.940 okay so we go to

00:44:06.200 chapter 12

00:44:06.940 of Hebrews

00:44:07.660 therefore since we are

00:44:08.760 surrounded by so great

00:44:10.080 a cloud of witnesses

00:44:10.920 let us also lay aside

00:44:12.880 every weight

00:44:13.680 and sin

00:44:14.220 which clings so closely

00:44:15.360 and let us run

00:44:16.480 with endurance

00:44:17.060 the race that is set

00:44:18.140 before us

00:44:18.660 looking to Jesus

00:44:19.500 the founder and perfecter

00:44:20.740 of our faith

00:44:21.360 who for the joy

00:44:22.500 that was set before him

00:44:23.480 endured the cross

00:44:24.280 despising the shame

00:44:25.580 and is seated

00:44:26.500 at the right hand

00:44:27.200 of the throne of God

00:44:28.100 consider him

00:44:30.460 who endures

00:44:31.760 from sinners

00:44:32.560 such hostility

00:44:33.660 against himself

00:44:34.580 so that you

00:44:35.780 may not grow

00:44:37.140 weary

00:44:37.860 or faint hearted

00:44:40.080 how amazing

00:44:42.060 is that

00:44:43.760 that we get to

00:44:45.760 look to the courage

00:44:46.620 the strength

00:44:47.220 the fortitude

00:44:47.860 of Jesus

00:44:48.540 and we get to

00:44:50.100 look forward

00:44:50.600 to a better home

00:44:51.500 a better way

00:44:53.660 a better place

00:44:54.680 where there will be peace

00:44:55.740 there will be

00:44:56.220 no more need

00:44:57.640 to take up our cross

00:44:58.620 and to deny ourselves

00:44:59.880 but right now

00:45:00.780 our courage

00:45:02.180 and our boldness

00:45:03.240 our self-denial

00:45:04.500 our strong

00:45:05.780 peacemaking

00:45:06.600 is a testimony

00:45:08.040 to a chaotic world

00:45:09.220 our clarity

00:45:09.980 is a testimony

00:45:10.720 to a confused world

00:45:12.180 I love the people

00:45:13.700 that I've seen

00:45:14.360 who have said

00:45:14.820 the people pleasing

00:45:16.000 has left my body

00:45:17.100 I love the people

00:45:18.580 who have said

00:45:19.020 oh yeah

00:45:19.480 I'm gonna go

00:45:21.100 to college campuses now

00:45:22.320 I'm gonna evangelize

00:45:24.480 even harder now

00:45:25.400 and oh no

00:45:26.780 I'm not canceling

00:45:27.600 my speaking engagements

00:45:28.520 I'm gonna go out there

00:45:29.740 and share the truth

00:45:31.120 I love

00:45:32.140 what the Holy Spirit

00:45:33.420 is doing in people

00:45:34.260 and Lord please

00:45:35.240 let this be

00:45:36.880 momentous

00:45:38.200 let this

00:45:39.120 have a snowball effect

00:45:40.660 and Lord

00:45:41.080 bring us to you

00:45:42.800 and ensure

00:45:44.360 that our motivation

00:45:45.980 is not out

00:45:47.640 of an unrighteous

00:45:49.600 sense of vengeance

00:45:50.960 but that our motivation

00:45:52.380 is truly holy

00:45:53.560 that is truly righteous

00:45:54.840 that is truly a desire

00:45:56.500 to see you glorified

00:45:58.020 another prayer

00:46:00.220 that I have

00:46:00.760 in the midst of this

00:46:01.700 is for discernment

00:46:03.780 for all of us

00:46:04.640 I didn't know

00:46:06.240 whether I was going

00:46:07.020 to even talk

00:46:07.900 about this at all

00:46:08.440 I'm not really

00:46:08.920 gonna get into it

00:46:09.640 but there's a lot

00:46:11.080 of theories right now

00:46:11.960 there's a lot

00:46:13.380 of conspiracies

00:46:14.240 not all the questions

00:46:15.980 that people are asking

00:46:16.720 are wrong

00:46:17.120 I'm not saying that

00:46:17.940 again I'm not saying

00:46:19.100 that we should just

00:46:19.600 accept whatever

00:46:20.200 the government tells us

00:46:21.300 and that's fine

00:46:22.160 move on

00:46:22.720 I'm not saying that

00:46:23.520 but there's a lot

00:46:25.560 of theories

00:46:26.000 and I don't know

00:46:28.380 that it is healthy

00:46:29.200 or productive

00:46:29.720 for you Christian

00:46:30.580 to go down

00:46:31.220 every rabbit hole

00:46:32.060 I just don't

00:46:33.560 I don't think

00:46:34.100 it's healthy

00:46:34.480 for your heart

00:46:35.100 and for your spirit

00:46:35.940 I don't know

00:46:36.500 if it's productive

00:46:37.180 I don't know

00:46:37.700 if it's honoring

00:46:38.360 to Charlie

00:46:39.020 and his wife

00:46:39.780 and his children

00:46:41.320 here's what I would say

00:46:43.180 here's a good question

00:46:44.540 okay

00:46:45.060 when people are throwing out

00:46:47.560 what about this

00:46:48.660 what about that

00:46:49.800 think about this

00:46:51.160 I know this

00:46:52.440 who knows this

00:46:53.820 ask yourself

00:46:55.460 where's your evidence

00:46:56.480 where's your evidence

00:46:58.420 for the people

00:46:58.940 who are just

00:46:59.600 asking questions

00:47:00.720 out there

00:47:01.400 back it up

00:47:03.080 give us some proof

00:47:04.700 give us some concrete evidence

00:47:06.800 of the things

00:47:07.840 that you're saying

00:47:08.560 I see a lot of people

00:47:09.880 calling for transparency

00:47:11.160 who also claim

00:47:12.380 that they know more

00:47:13.360 than the people in charge

00:47:14.440 tell us

00:47:15.540 please

00:47:16.000 let's not play games

00:47:16.940 like if you've got the truth

00:47:18.840 if you've got evidence

00:47:20.020 of something

00:47:20.540 that is going on

00:47:21.620 a true conspiracy

00:47:22.960 true collusion

00:47:23.840 then the world needs to know

00:47:25.340 let's not play games

00:47:26.460 okay

00:47:26.800 so I want you Christian 0.88

00:47:28.380 to ask yourself

00:47:29.380 where's the evidence

00:47:31.420 where's the truth

00:47:32.940 okay

00:47:33.920 and a rabbit hole

00:47:35.880 is not a helpful place to go

00:47:37.060 asking questions

00:47:38.480 that follow a logical line

00:47:40.100 of reasoning

00:47:40.760 and taking it to people

00:47:42.460 that can actually influence

00:47:44.260 those in charge

00:47:44.980 who are seeking justice

00:47:46.080 I think that is healthy

00:47:47.440 but getting all worked up

00:47:49.720 in every single theory

00:47:51.220 that is out there

00:47:52.260 without someone offering

00:47:54.140 in return

00:47:54.900 some substantive evidence

00:47:56.520 for their questions

00:47:57.760 and accusations

00:47:58.540 that's going to be

00:48:00.440 a no from me

00:48:01.220 and I'm not going to be

00:48:02.880 the place

00:48:03.320 that y'all are going to be

00:48:04.160 able to go

00:48:04.940 to explore all those theories

00:48:06.700 there are some other

00:48:08.180 people out there

00:48:08.820 probably people that can do it

00:48:09.880 in a healthy way

00:48:10.600 and you can watch them

00:48:12.280 you can listen to them

00:48:13.200 I'm not here to tell you

00:48:14.800 what to do

00:48:15.500 in that

00:48:16.180 I'm just saying

00:48:16.700 I'm not going to be

00:48:17.580 that person

00:48:18.200 okay

00:48:19.000 as truth is revealed

00:48:21.000 which I pray to God

00:48:22.040 that it is

00:48:22.680 as justice is sought

00:48:24.220 and I pray to God

00:48:25.680 that it is

00:48:26.460 and that justice is satisfied

00:48:28.840 that I will reveal

00:48:30.660 the facts that I know

00:48:31.860 but I feel

00:48:33.460 a responsibility

00:48:34.620 to you guys

00:48:35.980 to not take you down

00:48:38.100 every trail

00:48:39.740 because I'm not here

00:48:41.480 to cause anxiety

00:48:42.400 I am here

00:48:43.080 to infuse courage

00:48:44.100 into your life

00:48:44.800 and clarity

00:48:45.380 into your life

00:48:45.980 I have not been perfect

00:48:46.940 on that by the way

00:48:47.640 my entire history

00:48:48.500 like there have been times

00:48:49.800 where I look back

00:48:50.380 and I'm like

00:48:50.720 I probably just induced

00:48:52.740 anxiety there

00:48:53.380 that wasn't helpful

00:48:54.040 that wasn't productive

00:48:54.780 and I pray for grace

00:48:56.200 to cover me

00:48:56.740 and to help me

00:48:57.180 and give me wisdom

00:48:57.780 but be careful

00:48:59.000 just be careful

00:49:00.920 out there okay

00:49:01.580 have discernment

00:49:02.600 I'm not saying

00:49:04.040 that you should only

00:49:04.640 listen to me

00:49:05.100 please no

00:49:05.780 seek truth

00:49:07.140 but there's a difference

00:49:08.520 in truth-seeking

00:49:09.300 and anxiety-inducing

00:49:12.440 conspiracy theories

00:49:13.460 ask for evidence

00:49:15.260 all right

00:49:16.700 I want to end

00:49:18.420 on the story

00:49:20.040 of Shadrach, Meshach

00:49:21.520 and Abednego

00:49:22.020 and again

00:49:23.540 if you're

00:49:24.140 dusting off your Bible

00:49:25.520 or you're buying

00:49:26.620 that Bible

00:49:27.420 then you can read

00:49:29.460 Daniel 3

00:49:30.100 it's pretty incredible

00:49:31.280 just the courage

00:49:32.520 that we see there

00:49:33.280 the courage that we see

00:49:34.260 throughout scripture

00:49:34.900 that's really a pattern

00:49:35.760 that we see

00:49:36.280 we see these like

00:49:37.580 failing

00:49:38.620 finite

00:49:39.580 fallible people

00:49:40.720 who just mess up

00:49:42.100 over and over again

00:49:43.160 who just like

00:49:44.060 completely reject

00:49:45.000 what God just told them

00:49:46.600 but

00:49:47.600 the people

00:49:49.460 who are held up

00:49:51.180 as our examples

00:49:51.880 are not perfect people

00:49:52.860 they're faithful people

00:49:53.800 they're obedient people

00:49:55.440 they're courageous people

00:49:56.800 who just trusted

00:49:58.080 that God was going to do

00:49:59.220 what he said

00:49:59.780 that he was going to do

00:50:00.840 and we see that

00:50:02.360 in Daniel 3

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00:51:02.300 you know

00:51:07.660 I just got this in

00:51:08.640 and by the time

00:51:09.820 this is coming out

00:51:10.660 this will be old news

00:51:11.940 but I just

00:51:13.720 got the headline

00:51:15.000 from CNBC

00:51:15.820 that said that

00:51:16.560 the prosecutor

00:51:17.340 in Charlie Kirk's

00:51:18.440 case will seek

00:51:19.440 the death penalty

00:51:20.200 and we already

00:51:21.600 covered the death penalty

00:51:22.620 earlier in this episode

00:51:24.240 it's right

00:51:24.960 it is just

00:51:26.160 the only unjust thing

00:51:27.500 about the death penalty

00:51:28.300 in this country

00:51:30.200 at least in principle

00:51:31.200 is that

00:51:32.240 it is delayed

00:51:33.100 for years

00:51:33.920 and years

00:51:34.260 and years

00:51:34.820 even after due process

00:51:36.480 even after we have

00:51:37.320 DNA evidence

00:51:38.140 that someone committed

00:51:38.940 a murder

00:51:39.400 it's

00:51:40.840 you know

00:51:41.440 we wait so long

00:51:42.780 to execute the person

00:51:44.320 and then also

00:51:45.340 it just seems so arbitrary

00:51:46.700 we just don't consistently

00:51:48.000 apply it

00:51:48.720 and that is the cruel

00:51:49.660 part of it

00:51:50.200 it's not the execution

00:51:51.260 because you're executing

00:51:52.740 someone by lethal injection

00:51:54.240 you're actually giving them

00:51:55.260 so much more

00:51:55.900 mercy

00:51:56.840 and more comfort

00:51:57.660 than they gave

00:51:58.480 the victims

00:51:59.440 of their murder

00:52:00.340 and so

00:52:01.100 it's actually

00:52:02.500 a great mercy

00:52:03.180 it's not only a mercy

00:52:04.240 to the heinous murderer

00:52:06.660 but it is also

00:52:07.640 a great mercy

00:52:08.420 to society

00:52:09.160 when you take out

00:52:09.960 people inflicting

00:52:10.780 that kind of violence

00:52:11.600 and evil

00:52:12.000 but I just want to remind you

00:52:13.800 of a couple things

00:52:14.740 but Daniel 3

00:52:15.660 Shadrach, Meshach

00:52:16.580 and Abednego

00:52:17.220 answered the king

00:52:19.420 when the king said

00:52:20.580 you gotta bow down to me

00:52:21.580 look at this awesome

00:52:22.440 golden statue of myself

00:52:23.480 you gotta bow down

00:52:24.240 to this idol

00:52:24.840 they said

00:52:26.300 oh Nebuchadnezzar 0.99

00:52:27.080 we have no need

00:52:27.900 to answer you

00:52:28.580 in this matter

00:52:29.200 if this be so

00:52:31.280 our God

00:52:31.860 whom we serve

00:52:32.540 is able to deliver us

00:52:33.860 from the burning

00:52:34.660 fiery furnace

00:52:35.400 and he will deliver us

00:52:36.740 out of your hand

00:52:37.600 oh king

00:52:38.140 because Nebuchadnezzar 0.55

00:52:39.040 had said

00:52:39.380 hey

00:52:39.620 if you don't bow down

00:52:40.680 to me

00:52:40.960 you're going

00:52:41.640 in this furnace

00:52:42.200 I'm gonna kill you

00:52:44.200 and they said

00:52:44.960 well even if you do

00:52:46.580 if God wants to

00:52:47.940 he can deliver us

00:52:49.100 from that

00:52:49.520 it reminds me

00:52:50.360 of what we just read

00:52:50.980 in Hebrews 11

00:52:51.880 that Abraham knew

00:52:53.900 that even if he sacrificed

00:52:55.460 Isaac as God told him

00:52:56.640 to do

00:52:56.960 that he even believed

00:52:57.820 that God could raise him

00:52:58.600 from the dead

00:52:59.100 so it was actually

00:53:00.040 faith in the resurrection

00:53:01.000 even in the Old Testament

00:53:02.660 that was the saving faith

00:53:05.140 in verse 18 of Daniel 3

00:53:07.740 but if not

00:53:09.040 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego say

00:53:11.500 be it known to you

00:53:13.200 oh king

00:53:13.780 that we will not

00:53:14.860 serve your gods

00:53:15.540 or worship the golden image

00:53:16.760 that you have set up

00:53:17.740 so again

00:53:18.880 they had faith

00:53:19.540 in not what they saw

00:53:20.460 they had faith

00:53:21.600 not in some material resource

00:53:23.680 that God had promised them

00:53:24.680 or even faith

00:53:25.800 that God was going

00:53:26.360 to save them physically

00:53:27.260 they said

00:53:27.660 even if not

00:53:28.320 we're not going

00:53:28.800 to bow down to you

00:53:29.740 we will not serve

00:53:30.760 your gods

00:53:31.220 or worship the golden image

00:53:32.300 that you have set up

00:53:33.240 so against idolatry

00:53:37.080 they were

00:53:37.440 so in love

00:53:38.420 with God

00:53:38.820 they were

00:53:39.140 that they said

00:53:39.620 you can burn us up

00:53:40.700 we do not care

00:53:42.160 we trust in God

00:53:43.100 so Nebuchadnezzar 0.96

00:53:45.220 threw them

00:53:45.640 in the fiery furnace

00:53:46.560 he ordered his people 0.98

00:53:48.340 to turn it up

00:53:49.140 seven times hotter

00:53:50.320 than what it typically was

00:53:52.100 but when Nebuchadnezzar

00:53:53.240 and his people

00:53:53.820 looked into the furnace

00:53:55.240 they saw not just

00:53:56.320 three people

00:53:56.800 but four

00:53:57.440 then king Nebuchadnezzar

00:54:00.320 was astonished

00:54:01.120 and rose up in haste

00:54:02.100 he declared to his counselors

00:54:03.420 did we not cast

00:54:04.400 three men bound

00:54:05.220 into the fire

00:54:05.900 they answered

00:54:06.680 and said to the king

00:54:07.380 true oh king

00:54:08.500 verse 25

00:54:09.600 he answered and said

00:54:10.480 but I see four men

00:54:11.840 unbound

00:54:12.540 walking in the midst

00:54:14.060 of the fire

00:54:14.820 and they are not hurt

00:54:16.240 and the appearance

00:54:17.620 of the fourth

00:54:18.220 is like a son

00:54:19.300 of the gods

00:54:19.940 so we see

00:54:21.920 there

00:54:22.420 God with him

00:54:23.840 we see the presence

00:54:24.780 of God there

00:54:25.440 saving them

00:54:26.700 and they had faith

00:54:27.720 that he would

00:54:28.240 that they walked

00:54:28.780 into the fiery furnace

00:54:29.900 and they would have

00:54:31.140 rather done that

00:54:32.060 than bow down

00:54:32.840 to an idol

00:54:33.560 and disobey God

00:54:34.740 it's the same thing

00:54:35.640 with Daniel

00:54:36.320 when Daniel was ordered

00:54:38.180 not to pray to God

00:54:39.760 he opened the windows

00:54:40.720 and he prayed to God

00:54:41.800 and he was thrown

00:54:42.920 into a den of lions

00:54:44.000 and what did God do

00:54:44.940 he shut the mouth

00:54:45.840 of the lions

00:54:46.800 and because of their faith

00:54:48.200 because of their boldness

00:54:50.600 God was able

00:54:52.440 to spread

00:54:54.420 faith of him

00:54:55.640 and knowledge

00:54:56.360 of his power

00:54:57.360 throughout the land

00:54:58.400 and we are not guaranteed

00:55:00.100 that we will be saved

00:55:01.420 from every physical malady

00:55:03.120 or physical threat

00:55:04.160 here on earth

00:55:04.740 obviously God chose

00:55:05.780 not to spare Charlie Kirk

00:55:07.120 from his assassination

00:55:09.300 but we know

00:55:10.580 again

00:55:11.040 that God uses

00:55:11.940 our faith

00:55:12.700 that he uses

00:55:13.800 our boldness

00:55:14.740 he uses

00:55:15.340 our obedience

00:55:16.260 for his glory

00:55:17.800 and our good

00:55:18.600 and I'll end

00:55:21.300 just asking you

00:55:22.240 I know I've asked this

00:55:23.200 a couple times

00:55:23.840 in the past few weeks

00:55:24.640 and sometimes

00:55:25.060 I even just feel

00:55:25.820 bad asking this

00:55:27.080 but I know

00:55:28.920 that you guys

00:55:29.660 love to do it

00:55:30.820 and will do it

00:55:31.540 but in addition

00:55:33.280 to praying so much

00:55:34.540 for so many people

00:55:35.520 that need prayer

00:55:36.300 Charlie's family

00:55:37.200 especially

00:55:37.720 I just ask that

00:55:39.140 over the next few days

00:55:40.400 if you'll think

00:55:41.000 of me

00:55:41.980 and my family

00:55:42.660 and pray for us

00:55:43.420 there's several things

00:55:44.620 that are coming up

00:55:45.460 that I need

00:55:46.320 strength for

00:55:47.100 as you can tell

00:55:47.640 I'm under the weather

00:55:48.820 I have not gotten

00:55:50.360 good sleep at all

00:55:51.100 I've barely gotten

00:55:51.980 sleep over the past

00:55:52.780 two weeks

00:55:53.380 for a variety

00:55:55.360 of reasons

00:55:55.940 and I got a lot

00:55:57.920 coming up

00:55:58.280 that I need energy

00:55:59.040 for

00:55:59.380 that I need strength

00:56:00.200 for

00:56:00.460 that I need clarity

00:56:01.420 and sound

00:56:02.280 and a sound mind

00:56:03.820 for

00:56:04.180 and I need the Holy Spirit

00:56:05.440 to help me

00:56:06.020 I need protection

00:56:07.240 and I need strength

00:56:08.660 not just for me

00:56:09.840 but also for Chief Related Bro

00:56:11.220 for our family

00:56:11.820 and so I just ask

00:56:12.640 that you could

00:56:13.780 offer that

00:56:14.420 the prayer

00:56:15.700 of a righteous person

00:56:16.720 has great power

00:56:17.460 as it is working

00:56:18.240 that's James 5

00:56:19.160 and I trust that

00:56:20.400 and believe that

00:56:21.000 and I'm just thankful

00:56:21.580 for you guys

00:56:22.260 and how you share

00:56:23.020 the arrows with me

00:56:23.760 and I share the arrows

00:56:25.400 with you too

00:56:26.080 and so just thank you

00:56:27.640 for being here

00:56:28.440 and committing

00:56:29.040 to praying

00:56:30.080 for all of us

00:56:30.880 all right

00:56:31.400 that's all we've got

00:56:32.220 time for today

00:56:32.860 we will be back

00:56:33.600 on Friday

00:56:34.000 with a super

00:56:34.760 super encouraging

00:56:35.700 conversation

00:56:36.340 with Maddie Pruitt

00:56:37.340 I'll see you guys

00:56:38.220 back here then

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 17, 2025

Ep 1242 ｜ Christians, Rise Up. This Is the Moment

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