Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 19, 2025


Ep 1269 | How 'Furry' P*rn Leads to Political Violence


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

163.39594

Word Count

10,355

Sentence Count

609

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

What's the connection between furries, pornography, transgenderism, and political violence? Well, there seems to be a link. In light of revelations about the would-be assassin of Donald Trump in 2024, we ve got a theological take on this that's so important for Christians to understand.


Transcript

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00:01:00.940 What is the connection between furries, pornography, transgenderism, and political violence?
00:01:07.980 Well, there seems to be a link.
00:01:09.820 We are going to dive into this today in light of revelations about the would-be assassin of
00:01:16.440 Donald Trump in 2024, and we've got a theological take on all of this that is so important for
00:01:23.340 Christians to understand.
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00:01:33.300 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:01:45.280 Happy Wednesday.
00:01:46.860 I had to think about what day it is.
00:01:48.260 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
00:01:50.340 Okay, first things first.
00:01:51.660 The most important thing, of course, so many questions about the shirt that I was wearing
00:01:56.160 on Monday, and I appreciate the compliments, and I get questions about that particular blouse
00:02:02.360 quite a lot, and it is from, this is the worst answer ever.
00:02:06.420 It is from a boutique in Highlands, North Carolina.
00:02:09.200 I can't tell you where it may be available online, and that is true also of this blouse.
00:02:16.440 If you have the question, I got it from the same boutique in Highlands, North Carolina like
00:02:20.600 a year ago, but I'm sure you could find something similar somewhere online.
00:02:24.300 I'm sorry.
00:02:24.880 I'm not a fashion influencer, or else I would have a link for you, but unfortunately I don't.
00:02:31.740 So I just wanted to answer that very pressing question.
00:02:35.820 All right.
00:02:36.300 Today we're going to talk about a subject that we have talked about many times, but we're
00:02:39.520 going to approach it from a unique angle.
00:02:42.020 You have heard me talk about transgenderism from every different direction for the past
00:02:47.740 five plus years.
00:02:49.960 And something that a lot of people don't talk about is the dark underbelly of the ideology
00:02:56.000 of transgenderism.
00:02:57.440 It was believed at one point, even by me a few years ago, that these are all people who
00:03:02.040 are genuinely confused.
00:03:03.640 They have gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia.
00:03:06.820 They look in the mirror, and it doesn't feel like them.
00:03:09.580 They feel like they're trapped in the wrong body.
00:03:11.500 And I believe that most people who felt this way were born with that, or at least they started
00:03:17.460 feeling that in childhood.
00:03:20.000 And I have always felt, of course, that it's wrong, that it's incongruent with reality,
00:03:24.360 and that people who have that kind of distress need a kind of therapy that helps them reconcile
00:03:30.380 their mind with physical reality.
00:03:32.580 And while I still believe that, I no longer believe that most people today who say that
00:03:38.580 they're the opposite sex have true gender dysphoria.
00:03:43.020 I believe that gender dysphoria exists as it is defined or was defined in the DSM-5.
00:03:48.800 That's the big manual of mental illness that describes gender dysphoria as the insistent,
00:03:57.720 persistent, and consistent belief that they were born in the wrong body or that they are
00:04:02.440 the opposite sex.
00:04:04.140 And statistically, it was a lot more prevalent in young boys.
00:04:08.120 It was almost unheard of in young girls.
00:04:11.460 And it started from a very young age.
00:04:15.080 But now, of course, what we've seen is this form of rapid onset gender dysphoria, which we
00:04:21.200 learned a lot about through Abigail Schreier's first book.
00:04:26.480 And gosh, what was the name of her first book?
00:04:29.360 Can someone can someone look that up and remind me?
00:04:32.520 I should know because I loved it and I learned a lot from it.
00:04:36.580 But this idea that young adolescent girls, what is it called?
00:04:44.300 Irreversible damage.
00:04:45.140 Of course.
00:04:45.840 I'll never forget the cover of that book, which is just so iconic and sad.
00:04:50.360 But talked about the research from Brown University's Lisa Lipman that showed that these young adolescent
00:04:57.160 girls, while they were teenagers, were suddenly believing that they were boys and that this
00:05:03.120 actually was the result of something called a social contagion, much like cutting, much like
00:05:08.280 eating disorders, where young girls are seeking some kind of affirmation and validation or maybe
00:05:13.520 escape from trauma.
00:05:14.760 And so they are mutilating their body in some way as a form of control or maybe a form of
00:05:23.760 attention and validation.
00:05:26.740 This is not something that they were born with.
00:05:29.000 It's not true gender dysphoria.
00:05:31.200 It is almost a coping mechanism and a lot of young women to escape from some kind of confusion
00:05:38.680 or true oppression that they dealt with, sometimes linked to their femininity, like sexual trauma
00:05:47.300 or something like that.
00:05:49.140 But then the other side of this is in boys.
00:05:52.040 It's not true today that most of the boys and men who identify as the opposite sex do so because they have
00:06:00.160 gender dysphoria that they were born with or that they developed as a child.
00:06:04.180 But today it is, I believe, mostly due to pornography.
00:06:09.300 It is due to a sexual fetish that they have developed over time, that there is now a very real
00:06:15.560 algorithmic pipeline via Pornhub and other porn sites that push young men to seek more and more
00:06:26.540 exciting dopamine hits.
00:06:28.680 So the pornography changes from something that is simple to something that might be more erotic,
00:06:35.080 more violent, more subversive.
00:06:37.720 And it gets into not only like different kinds of sexual deviancy, in addition to just pornography,
00:06:44.240 homosexuality, but then gender bending and gender fluidity.
00:06:49.260 And we have talked about, this is very disturbing, but we have talked about a woman who has researched
00:06:55.800 this, Genevieve Gluck, who is the editor of the magazine called Redox.
00:06:59.920 And she has looked into the link between something called sissy pornography and the rise of transgenderism,
00:07:07.560 this fetish of wanting to be feminized as a man, wanting to be submissive as a man,
00:07:13.460 and how this very much has to do with this rise of transgenderism among a lot of men.
00:07:20.280 So it's true that these men who want to go into girls' locker rooms, who want to go into
00:07:24.900 girls' bathrooms, are not doing so because they really think that they were born in the
00:07:29.520 wrong body, but because they're perverts.
00:07:31.960 Those are the exact opposite kind of men that you want infiltrating women's spaces.
00:07:37.380 Of course, you don't want any man doing that, but especially not a man who is a sexual deviant
00:07:41.500 in every way and who actually gets off on humiliation, humiliation for themselves and humiliation
00:07:48.280 for women and girls.
00:07:49.960 This kind of sissification porn actually depicts women as objects and depicts women as just things
00:07:58.120 to be degraded and humiliated.
00:08:01.680 And so I believe that that is what is motivating the majority of transgenderism among men today.
00:08:10.480 And I just want you to know that, that this is not nuanced, that this doesn't deserve more
00:08:14.660 of our empathy, that these people don't deserve to be allowed into any women's spaces at all.
00:08:22.100 But I want you to stare at it in the eyes as sexual depravity and perversion that doesn't
00:08:28.220 have anything to do with gender.
00:08:29.320 It has to do with sex.
00:08:30.840 Like, and I'm not talking about biological sex.
00:08:32.840 I'm talking about a sexual fetish and pornography and one subset of this very dangerous and dark
00:08:39.500 form of pornography.
00:08:40.800 It's very disturbing, but okay, like we need to understand how sin works and how this is
00:08:45.640 actually a link to a lot of the issues that we have today, including political violence.
00:08:51.760 One subset of this pornography that is also pushing these men towards sexual degeneracy and
00:08:57.140 gender fluidity, including transgenderism and non-binary identity is furry porn.
00:09:03.000 Like, I hate even saying that.
00:09:04.580 Why do we even have to talk about this?
00:09:06.400 And we don't have to go into the details of what this means.
00:09:09.200 I want to try to protect our minds and hearts as much as possible.
00:09:12.440 But we also have to see that this form of pornography is actually leading to, in some ways, political
00:09:21.180 violence that has now affected the president of the United States, who had an assassination
00:09:26.240 attempt against him on July 13th, 2024.
00:09:31.460 And then also Charlie Kirk.
00:09:34.700 I do not think it's a coincidence that both of these men who are suspected as the killers
00:09:40.260 of these top, you know, conservative, one politician and one activist were also allegedly addicted
00:09:47.740 to this kind of pornography and obsessed with transgenderism.
00:09:51.600 There is something going on morally and spiritually and psychologically and politically here that we
00:09:59.240 really need to understand, to shake us out of our stupor, that these are identities or interests
00:10:06.400 that deserve our compassion.
00:10:07.900 The people as image bearers of God may deserve our compassion and our desire for their repentance,
00:10:13.240 but the issue does not deserve nuance.
00:10:15.840 It deserves courage.
00:10:17.300 It deserves clarity.
00:10:18.400 And for us to have courage, we have to have clarity, which means we have to have knowledge
00:10:21.840 and we have to kind of look at the belly of the beast and understand how these things
00:10:25.620 are connected.
00:10:26.220 So that's what we're going to dive into today as we look at the new revelations that have
00:10:30.700 come to light about the would-be Trump assassin.
00:10:35.020 We're not going to say his name, just like we're not going to say Charlie Kirk's assassin's
00:10:38.960 name, the suspect, not because we've been perfect on this, because we haven't.
00:10:44.840 There have been times that we've done this and times that we haven't, but because I don't
00:10:47.980 want to contribute anything to this person's fame, this person's notoriety, which is exactly
00:10:53.160 what they're seeking in so many ways.
00:10:55.040 So we'll get into these revelations and what they mean theologically, why we as Christians
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00:12:34.460 So the New York Post has just reported that the 20-year-old gunman who attempted to murder
00:12:44.160 Donald Trump on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania last year was allegedly using they, them pronouns
00:12:52.560 online and had an account on a deviant art.
00:12:57.200 So never heard of this.
00:12:58.600 This is a platform for user-generated art and a hub for various fetish communities where
00:13:03.400 he seemed especially drawn to scantily clad images of muscular male-looking bodies with
00:13:08.620 female heads.
00:13:10.400 So right away, this should sound the alarms for you of something satanic.
00:13:16.840 The first thing I think of, and this just came to mind, and so I've got to make sure
00:13:21.220 I have the reference right on Bible Gateway before I say it to you, but I think about
00:13:28.320 Mark 5, when Jesus heals a man with a demon, and this person goes by the name of Legion,
00:13:38.000 or the demons go by the name of Legion.
00:13:41.600 So Mark 5 starts by saying, they came to the other side of the sea, to the country of Gerasthenes.
00:13:49.200 Yes, maybe that's how I say it.
00:13:50.860 And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs,
00:13:54.860 a man with an unclean spirit.
00:13:56.880 He lived among the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, for
00:14:01.420 he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke
00:14:06.160 the shackles in pieces.
00:14:07.120 No one had the strength to subdue him.
00:14:09.360 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains, he was always crying out and cutting himself
00:14:13.340 with stones.
00:14:14.400 And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him, and crying out with a loud
00:14:18.380 voice, he said, what have you to do with me, Jesus, the Son of the Most High God?
00:14:22.620 I adjure you by God, do not torment me.
00:14:25.380 For he was saying to him, come out of the man, you unclean spirit.
00:14:28.260 That's what Jesus was saying to him.
00:14:30.400 And Jesus asked him, what is your name?
00:14:32.640 He's speaking to this unclean spirit.
00:14:34.220 And he replied, my name is Legion, for we are many.
00:14:38.760 So this demon who is multiple, he's got multiple identities.
00:14:44.920 These are multiple spirits in one that has taken over the body of this person who is tormented
00:14:51.500 by violence against others and himself, who has this kind of like supernatural viciousness
00:14:56.640 and strength because he is possessed by a demon.
00:14:59.540 He, even though he is one in this body, goes by a multiple pronoun, goes by we.
00:15:07.760 Now, I'm not saying that this legion is necessarily possessing all of these people who go by they,
00:15:14.500 them.
00:15:14.840 I am saying unapologetically that it is demonic, that you cannot be a they, that you cannot
00:15:20.820 be a them, that you cannot be a we.
00:15:23.940 Subverting reality is demonic.
00:15:27.580 Denying biological truth is demonic.
00:15:30.760 Satan loves it.
00:15:31.620 Why?
00:15:31.860 Because he is the father of lies.
00:15:34.660 Also, what I think about, I think about the depiction of a demon like Baphomet, for example.
00:15:45.340 Baphomet is depicted as gender fluid.
00:15:48.840 And Baphomet is traditionally seen as a demonic depiction that has been around for a very
00:15:56.400 long time.
00:15:57.200 And actually, if you look at all different kinds of demonic depictions that have been
00:16:02.820 drawn since ancient times, you will see not only gender fluidity or like a hermaphrodite
00:16:09.180 type characteristics.
00:16:10.160 And so you might see female breasts, but you might see male genitalia as well.
00:16:15.260 But you will also see this cross between a human and an animal.
00:16:20.520 So right here, we see that this person who tried to assassinate Donald Trump, that he
00:16:28.160 was into bestiality, which is forbidden, of course, in Scripture.
00:16:33.780 It was actually punishable by death in the Old Testament for a very good reason.
00:16:38.740 But also that this person is messing with gender fluidity, which again had become a sexual
00:16:45.060 fetish and that this had manifested itself in the demonic identity of being they, them.
00:16:51.180 Now, this person is clearly unwell for a lot of reasons.
00:16:56.660 He had an online footprint that included extreme rhetoric espousing political violence as far
00:17:02.500 back as 2019, when he was only 15 years old.
00:17:07.240 He apparently was a former Trump supporter.
00:17:10.180 He left violent threats against the squad.
00:17:12.580 He wished them a quick and painful death.
00:17:16.280 He wrote things in 2019 like murder the Democrats.
00:17:20.760 Then he also would apparently search for things that were violent, like Kennedy's assassination.
00:17:27.300 And then in 2020, he became critical of Trump.
00:17:30.400 He called Trump a racist, referring to Trump supporters as cult followers.
00:17:35.740 He wrote this in 2020.
00:17:37.820 IMO, that means in my opinion, the only way to fight the government is with terrorism style
00:17:41.920 attacks, sneak a bomb into an essential building, set it off before anyone sees you, track down
00:17:46.880 any important people, politicians, military leaders, et cetera.
00:17:49.980 So I think it's fair to question, like, why didn't the FBI do something about this beforehand?
00:17:57.120 Because the FBI actually is able to step in when someone is making these kinds of threats
00:18:01.700 online.
00:18:02.280 They've actually done it a lot over the past couple of months, which I'm glad about.
00:18:06.340 People have been making very real death threats through two conservative commentators, like
00:18:11.740 people like Matt Walsh, people like Seth Dillon in the past, people like Ben Shapiro, and law
00:18:17.040 enforcement has rightly stepped in.
00:18:19.300 So why wasn't this happening to this guy when we have so much intelligence, so many resources
00:18:25.640 going to our intelligence agencies?
00:18:28.360 I'm not really sure.
00:18:30.080 That's a question to be asked.
00:18:31.480 The FBI has been largely quiet on the suspect's online activity.
00:18:35.140 So why are we learning this right now?
00:18:38.860 After the assassination attempt, according to the New York Post, then FBI director Chris
00:18:43.960 Ray told Congress after July 13th, after that attack, that the Bureau had found nothing in
00:18:49.900 would-be assassins' online history that pointed to a motive or political ideology, which is
00:18:54.600 clearly just not true.
00:18:56.460 That's just not true.
00:18:57.560 A week later, Ray's deputy, Paul Abate, not sure how to pronounce his last name, told Congress
00:19:04.960 that comments posted on one of Crook's social media accounts appear to reflect anti-Semitic
00:19:09.480 and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence that are described as extreme in nature.
00:19:14.780 And that seems to be a lie by omission.
00:19:17.540 It's hard for me to believe that they didn't also see all of the other things that he had
00:19:20.960 said about Donald Trump negatively.
00:19:23.460 So here are some other questions that people have.
00:19:26.340 Again, according to the New York Post, whether the would-be assassin acted alone or had contact
00:19:30.780 with agents of a foreign government, why the FBI never noticed or investigated the suspect's
00:19:35.500 violent rhetoric online, whether the FBI turned over all evidence it had to congressional
00:19:40.560 investigators, did FBI investigators find all the suspect's online activity, or was some of it
00:19:46.400 overlooked?
00:19:48.260 And so I think those are all good questions to ask because I do believe in asking questions,
00:19:53.160 including questions of the FBI and the government and the media in law enforcement without wrongly
00:19:59.960 implicating people that we have suspicions about, that we have no evidence are involved.
00:20:07.380 There's a way to do that.
00:20:08.260 There's a way to ask questions of very powerful and government-sponsored entities without bringing
00:20:14.080 people into suspicion that do not need to be suspected.
00:20:18.200 Um, let's look a little bit more since we are talking specifically about how these sexual
00:20:23.500 fetishes can be a part of violence, including political violence.
00:20:27.500 Let's look a little bit more about these dark obsessions.
00:20:31.440 Um, this is deviant art says that they are the, this website where this assassin had a footprint.
00:20:38.460 It's the world's largest online social community for artists and art enthusiasts to share, promote
00:20:43.720 and discuss their work.
00:20:45.500 But again, by the name, you can see that it's supposed to be deviant.
00:20:49.960 So this suspect that tried to assassinate Trump had the username Epic Microwave listed the
00:20:55.620 pronouns they, them.
00:20:57.340 Um, we don't really know how they personally identified out in the world, but that's the,
00:21:02.160 those are the pronouns that they chose.
00:21:03.800 We're not going to put the pictures up of the art that this person was making, but clearly
00:21:10.380 obsessed with the idea of gender fluidity, clearly obsessed with this idea of being some
00:21:15.480 submissive themselves.
00:21:16.460 He also posted artwork that revealed an obsession, um, with gore.
00:21:22.360 It looks like it's like a trans flag background.
00:21:25.500 We don't need to put it up.
00:21:26.980 Um, and then you've got one figure that is shooting the other figure in the head.
00:21:33.200 And we've got a few other very violent, um, depictions like that, that this guy seemed to be obsessed
00:21:41.600 with.
00:21:42.580 Um, and I think I might've made a mistake earlier when I was talking about the kind of art that
00:21:47.720 he drew and posted.
00:21:49.440 I think I might've said something about it, having like an animal, like animal head, like
00:21:54.900 person body.
00:21:55.760 And while it is true that there is like furry porn that has that, and it is demonic.
00:22:01.280 He was more into the gender bending stuff, but the connection to furry, which we're about
00:22:06.860 to get into with Charlie Kirk's assassin is this.
00:22:09.380 According to Miranda Devine, the New York post, he, this assassin, uh, suspect, he described
00:22:15.820 himself with the pronouns, they, them on the platform, do you in art.
00:22:18.380 And it's one of the biggest online hubs for furry art and furry community.
00:22:22.480 A furry is someone who has an interest in anthropomorphized animal characters, so often as a sexual fetish.
00:22:30.780 So let's unpack these traits and how they are also connected to other assassins against
00:22:36.860 conservative advocates and what it actually means.
00:22:41.380 So this is according to time magazine, also according to the New York post transgender and
00:22:47.020 furry ideology seems to link several high profile shootings in the last several years, including
00:22:52.120 Charlie Kirk's, um, assassin, again, not going to say his name.
00:22:55.960 Uh, the suspect's live-in boyfriend was documenting a gender transition, a man who was trying to
00:23:03.140 become a woman.
00:23:03.980 We know, of course, that's an impossibility.
00:23:06.440 According to the Daily Mail, they played, um, this person, I guess, uh, guy played pornographic
00:23:12.660 furry games online, follows artists that draw cartoons depicting horrible things like pedophilia.
00:23:18.700 And then friends also, uh, of the couple of these two guys talked about like some of the
00:23:25.620 disturbing things that they're into.
00:23:27.100 And we'll get into more of that in just a second.
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00:24:47.180 Jack Posobiec, who works for Turning Point and of course was a close friend of Charlie
00:24:57.060 Kirk, he pointed out that both Charlie Kirk's assassin and the would-be Trump assassin had
00:25:02.120 this connection of an obsession with gender fluidity and also anthropomorphized sexual fetish
00:25:11.140 content.
00:25:11.860 Is that one?
00:25:12.300 Dr. Chloe Carmichael wrote in, and we're going to have her on the show later on talking about
00:25:19.080 this.
00:25:19.820 She wrote that,
00:25:20.680 Brooks' fixation on hybrid male-female body art and Robinson's trans obsessions both suggest
00:25:27.460 a drift away from basic human grounding.
00:25:31.060 It's no surprise that they're both interested in furries.
00:25:33.960 It's just a further derailment of their concept of humanity.
00:25:37.060 This dovetails with treating the special human gift of language as dangerous, believing that
00:25:42.020 those who express disagreement threaten their existence.
00:25:44.500 The entire mentality erodes respect for human life, creates irrational fear of ideological
00:25:50.820 opponents, and leaves them unwilling or unable to use words to navigate differences.
00:25:56.500 So they default to violence instead.
00:25:59.160 Yep, this actually reminds me of a tweet that I put out on this, and this was in response
00:26:07.180 to the news that the Trump gunman, that he used these pronouns and he was obsessed with
00:26:16.740 the website who promoted this like furry porn.
00:26:19.440 And I said transgenderism, and of course all sexual deviancy, but especially transgenderism,
00:26:25.200 is radicalizing for at least five reasons.
00:26:28.220 One, there's nothing more detached from reality than thinking you're the opposite sex.
00:26:33.440 Once you've entered a total fantasy land, anything is possible and permissible.
00:26:38.200 Number two, it's attached to extreme porn, which is mentally destabilizing.
00:26:42.920 Number three, the cross-sex pharmaceuticals involved are bad for your mind and body.
00:26:47.440 There's a reason why a man naturally doesn't have that level of estrogen.
00:26:51.880 There's a reason why a woman doesn't naturally have that level of testosterone.
00:26:55.960 Every single cell in our body requires a very fragile makeup of certain hormones.
00:27:02.300 Every cell in our body is gendered, except for a few cells for a man for the purpose of procreating
00:27:09.600 girls.
00:27:10.080 But every cell in our body requires masculine and male hormones or female hormones.
00:27:17.800 It doesn't work otherwise.
00:27:19.360 So puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones are really bad for every part of your body,
00:27:25.880 and it's also bad for your mind.
00:27:27.800 So that's number three.
00:27:29.020 Number four, it has joined, this transgender identity has joined the communist coalition,
00:27:34.480 which has always been full of sexual degenerates.
00:27:36.720 It's just true.
00:27:38.100 And communism is always violent.
00:27:40.700 It is godless.
00:27:41.680 It worships the god of self, the god of convenience, the god of selfishness.
00:27:46.560 I mean, it is an ideology that is built on covetousness and wanting what someone else has and then
00:27:53.900 taking what someone else has, which is what communism and socialism are, are so bad that
00:27:59.040 God actually forbade both of those things in the Ten Commandments, the Ten Big Ones.
00:28:04.240 He forbids us from stealing, and he forbids us even from wanting what someone else has.
00:28:08.920 And so when you have an entire ideology that is based on violating at least two of the Ten
00:28:15.940 Commandments, of course, it's going to create chaos.
00:28:18.600 I mean, you could actually argue that it violates all of them, that it puts gods before the one
00:28:24.460 god, that it breaks apart the family, which makes you violate the command to honor your father
00:28:31.180 and mother, which is actually the first commandment with a promise, so that it may go well with
00:28:36.040 you and you may live long in the land.
00:28:37.420 So obviously, when you have ideologies that are subverting everything that we read, even
00:28:43.340 going back to the very beginning of Genesis 1 and God's creation of male and female, it's
00:28:48.720 going to create chaos.
00:28:50.080 And chaos begets chaos.
00:28:51.620 Chaos begets violence.
00:28:53.400 And that, of course, is my number five, one of the reasons why transgenderism is inherently
00:28:59.160 radicalizing, is that sin begets sin.
00:29:02.800 Again, going back all the way to the Garden of Eden, first, we give in to the temptation
00:29:09.500 of Satan that, did God really say that if you eat this, you'll die?
00:29:15.820 Satan twists God's words, and Eve decides not to trust God.
00:29:20.640 Eve elevates herself above God.
00:29:22.340 She wants to be like God.
00:29:24.160 And then after she gives in to that temptation, she takes the bite of the fruit.
00:29:29.560 She then tries to hide from God.
00:29:31.620 She then tries to shift blame.
00:29:33.640 And so we see that sin begets sin, that delusion begets delusion.
00:29:39.680 A Utah governor, Spencer Cox, of course, he's the governor of the state where Charlie Kirk
00:29:44.000 was assassinated.
00:29:44.980 He reported that the suspect's friends told investigators that he was involved in very dark
00:29:51.160 interests, that his interests were taking him to very dark places.
00:29:55.980 Friend, this is what I was saying a few minutes ago.
00:29:58.380 Friends of the 22-year-old suspect said that the suspect, who allegedly left a sex-related
00:30:02.460 gaming message on a bullet casing used to kill Charlie Kirk, used the account name Crafton247
00:30:09.840 on multiple gaming and online platforms where he engaged in the fringe furry culture.
00:30:15.460 So this was a part of what he loved.
00:30:18.980 He has another account that he had a dating simulator called Furry Shades of Gay, describes
00:30:25.840 itself as a game of love, queer relationships, gay sex, all kinds of terrible stuff, according
00:30:31.820 to the Daily Mail.
00:30:33.900 This idea of dressing up as a stuffed animal, and usually it's very childlike.
00:30:40.760 It's usually very cartoon-like.
00:30:43.000 It's literally, if you have no idea what I'm talking about, it's literally a costume that
00:30:47.680 these people put on that looks like a wolf or looks like a dog.
00:30:51.360 It's got a very distinct look.
00:30:53.100 It's very, yeah, we've got people.
00:30:55.300 Yeah.
00:30:55.640 It's very, like, anime-like, and it's very childlike.
00:31:00.240 Like, it looks like something, it looks like a stuffed animal that a child would have, and
00:31:05.240 there is absolutely no coincidence.
00:31:08.300 This is probably, what, is this FurryCon?
00:31:10.580 It's a furry parade, but there's a whole conference that is centered on this, and, okay, so I don't
00:31:16.120 have this in my notes, but I just remember this from a few years ago.
00:31:19.900 So there was a furry conference.
00:31:21.860 These adults dressed up like childlike animals, okay, in Florida a few years ago.
00:31:29.100 This was reported by the Rolling Stone, and the organizers of FurryCon were very angry
00:31:34.800 at Ron DeSantis for his, the law that had just been passed, and I'm forgetting the exact
00:31:41.420 details of it, but we can look it up, and y'all can look it up, basically saying that children
00:31:45.520 cannot have access to sexual material.
00:31:48.560 And these people at FurryCon were afraid that that was going to impact them in some way.
00:31:54.600 Now, think about that.
00:31:56.120 Why would that be the case?
00:31:57.900 Now, they will try to gaslight you and say, oh, our furry obsession has nothing to do with
00:32:02.360 sexuality, but, of course, it does.
00:32:05.640 So that was from AnthroCon.
00:32:08.080 That's, so, again, anthropomorphizing animals.
00:32:13.020 But this is according to a study, a 2019 study by Northwestern University of 334 male furries.
00:32:20.360 They found that 99% reported, quote, some degree of sexual motivation for being furry.
00:32:26.600 So this is bestiality, and it is no coincidence, this is no coincidence that this has significant
00:32:34.100 crossover with pedophilia.
00:32:35.780 It's no coincidence that this has significant crossover with transgenderism.
00:32:40.920 There is no coincidence.
00:32:43.020 Did I say significance?
00:32:44.520 I meant to say coincidence.
00:32:45.820 Sometimes I can't remember.
00:32:46.940 But it's no coincidence that there seems to be a very high percentage of pedophiles in communities
00:32:54.580 like this because they're obsessed with porn.
00:32:57.360 They're obsessed with humiliation.
00:32:59.360 They're obsessed with, like, self-infantilization that has to do with that humiliation fetish, okay?
00:33:05.440 And they want to involve children.
00:33:07.580 They want to involve innocent women.
00:33:09.320 They want to involve people that they view as weak in their sexual fetishes, and they
00:33:14.000 want to be affirmed by those things, okay?
00:33:16.240 So when you're obsessed with that kind of submission and humiliation, it does very dark things to
00:33:22.840 your brain.
00:33:23.720 It does very dark things to your motivation.
00:33:26.460 I mean, that's about as dark as it gets.
00:33:29.840 So this is not something just to be, like, accepted or to be treated with kid gloves.
00:33:34.780 This is the problem with live and let live, right?
00:33:38.220 Because eventually, you letting live allows these people to infiltrate the spaces and infiltrate
00:33:45.640 the safety and privacy of innocent people, okay?
00:33:48.880 And obviously, it's causing terrorism problem.
00:33:52.160 It's causing a violence problem.
00:33:54.480 So The Guardian tells us a little bit more about the background of this.
00:33:57.940 Furries are a community of people who embody stylized animal characters.
00:34:01.100 We already know this.
00:34:02.380 But what are their roots?
00:34:03.220 The roots of furry culture go back to underground comics in the 1970s and 80s, with a big influence
00:34:08.380 from animated cartoons, especially the 1973 Disney movie, Robin Hood.
00:34:14.320 There's probably some details there that you could look into for why that is.
00:34:18.200 Dr. Samuel Conway puts it like this.
00:34:20.240 Furries realize that via the computer, you could connect with people.
00:34:23.220 You could share companionship, at least in a virtual sense.
00:34:26.000 Boo!
00:34:26.920 Whatever.
00:34:27.400 You don't need companionship.
00:34:29.380 Actually, what we really need is we need these people to have no way to find each other.
00:34:35.580 That's what we need, okay?
00:34:37.040 Because this becomes a social contagion.
00:34:39.660 You go to these dark corners of the internet.
00:34:41.980 You get affirmation.
00:34:43.460 You become obsessed.
00:34:44.740 These people probably have underlying conditions of some kind of, like, if you want to call
00:34:50.680 it, like, neurodiversity or atypical, like, neuro makeup, whether I think a lot of them
00:34:57.400 probably already have autism or Asperger's or some of them have some kind of mental condition
00:35:03.440 that makes real life difficult.
00:35:05.840 And so they retreat into the internet.
00:35:08.040 They finally found something that they are a part of that makes them feel good and powerful
00:35:13.860 and seen and loved.
00:35:16.160 And then, I mean, that's really powerful.
00:35:18.420 Feeling accepted and loved and wanted is so powerful.
00:35:21.920 And so they find that and then they just get darker and darker.
00:35:24.920 And I think a lot of these people, like the Trump would be assassin, and then the Charlie
00:35:29.880 Kirk would be assassin.
00:35:30.940 They become so deluded into thinking that they are some kind of hero in these chat rooms
00:35:35.820 that that manifests into real life.
00:35:38.280 And so, yes, we have a spiritual problem.
00:35:40.640 Like, it's so underneath the surface, but something that needs to happen is to break up
00:35:45.620 these chat rooms, to make it impossible for these people to find each other, for them to
00:35:49.940 become radicalized through this social contagion.
00:35:54.240 We don't want them to be able to have conferences.
00:35:56.020 We don't want them to be able to have communities like this.
00:35:58.040 We don't want them to be able to have group chats and chat rooms and ways to, like, make
00:36:03.380 this art because that is radicalizing and it's destabilizing.
00:36:08.620 And it ends up having an effect on real people in the real world.
00:36:16.160 So that's, like, that's part of the problem.
00:36:18.940 That's part of the problem there.
00:36:20.300 Also, like, we just need to bring back shame and we need to bring back stigma.
00:36:25.940 Like, we have gone through, we've, you know, it's the same thing with, like, body positivity
00:36:30.420 and everything else.
00:36:31.400 It just went too far.
00:36:33.140 Like, maybe there was a time where we need to say, you know, less stigma for XYZ, less
00:36:37.720 shame for XYZ and more body positivity for the woman who's, like, a size 10 but is generally
00:36:44.700 healthy.
00:36:45.220 Okay.
00:36:45.460 But then it swung all the way in the other direction, right, to where you are telling
00:36:50.160 women that obesity is perfectly beautiful and healthy when it's obviously not and telling
00:36:55.360 people that having any kind of sexual deviancy is acceptable and beautiful when it's not.
00:37:01.560 It's actually very harmful to them and it's harmful to everyone else too.
00:37:05.140 Everyone else has to pay a price for it.
00:37:06.920 So we need to swing back the other direction and realize that stigma is something that has
00:37:12.940 been passed down to us by wiser generations that have gone before us to give us an indication
00:37:18.560 of not what is not acceptable but what is not healthy and what is not going to lead to the
00:37:25.620 procreation of a new generation, right?
00:37:28.820 Like, there is a reason for stigma and we should suss out whether or not it's justified, but in this
00:37:35.220 case it is.
00:37:36.140 Like, there is a reason for stigma toward any other form of sexuality except for the union
00:37:42.160 between a man and a woman because it is inherently sterilizing and destabilizing for society.
00:37:48.480 Hyper-individualism has also led us here.
00:37:50.980 It's not all about how you feel.
00:37:52.920 It's not all about what you want to be.
00:37:55.440 It's not all about you living authentically.
00:37:58.260 It's like you are a person in the world and that has to matter too.
00:38:03.560 And you have a responsibility as a human being to your neighbor, to your community, and to
00:38:07.640 the next generation.
00:38:10.720 So let's see.
00:38:12.100 The NIH actually has something about freedom.
00:38:16.340 A 2022 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior aimed to create and test new self-report and
00:38:22.460 picture-based tools to measure sexual interest in animals and to explore what patterns are linked
00:38:27.100 to it.
00:38:27.580 They found that people who identify as zoophilic, so basically bestiality, 35% identified as
00:38:37.320 furry, 72% as zoophilic, 67% were men, 23% were women among the participants' sexual interest.
00:38:46.000 Oh, gosh, I don't even know if I can say all of this.
00:38:49.300 Basically, these people are sexually interested in animals.
00:38:54.480 And it's also been found in an article from Religion News Service in 2022 that the vast
00:39:00.060 majority of furries also identify as LGBTQ.
00:39:05.980 So it all seems to be intermixed.
00:39:09.000 And, you know, people made fun of us, made fun of Christians back in the day when gay
00:39:14.700 marriage came mainstream and then, of course, was legalized.
00:39:18.380 So people said, oh, if we redefine marriage, if we redefine acceptable sexuality as anything
00:39:25.700 other between a man and a woman, that opens the door to everything else.
00:39:29.580 Because if you redefine it beyond this, what actually biologically and reproductively works,
00:39:35.780 well, then there's no limit.
00:39:38.140 If we no longer care about how biology tells us to function and how biology defines male
00:39:44.640 and female, then why do we care about how biology defines human or defines any form of acceptable
00:39:51.960 sexuality?
00:39:53.540 The slippery slope when it comes to the sexual revolution is totally undefeated.
00:39:58.260 It's not a fallacy.
00:40:00.340 It is a true principle because, again, sin begets sin and it creates more and more delusion.
00:40:07.960 And, of course, this has also become a problem among children.
00:40:11.960 The furry problem has been showing up in K through 12 public schools across the United States with
00:40:16.320 reports of furry-like student groups emerging in school districts in Arizona, California, Colorado,
00:40:21.400 Kentucky, and Texas.
00:40:23.560 There was a big problem in Utah, actually, at a middle school there, where students who
00:40:29.500 identified as furries have been seen wearing animal costumes and disrupting class and really
00:40:35.680 kind of taking on this identity.
00:40:37.140 It's very troubling.
00:40:38.300 Like, where are the parents?
00:40:39.420 Where are the churches?
00:40:40.840 Where are the youth leaders?
00:40:42.020 And I know they're out there.
00:40:43.300 I'm not saying they're not.
00:40:44.320 But, I mean, gosh, these kids need real discipline and mentorship and to be steered in the right
00:40:49.800 direction.
00:40:50.320 This is also the product of overly permissive parenting and parents not realizing that they
00:40:56.540 are the authority in their kid's life for good reason.
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00:42:26.600 Okay, so here is the report of that happening at a middle school.
00:42:35.940 Stop five.
00:42:37.480 It's a furry in action!
00:42:40.840 Meow.
00:42:42.080 Meow!
00:42:44.600 Okay, so just disturbing there that you have people that are children who are dressing up
00:42:51.040 like this.
00:42:51.420 And we're not just talking about, oh, like it's Halloween, like it's fun.
00:42:54.240 We've got little kids who are dressed up as animals.
00:42:56.920 Okay, that's one thing.
00:43:00.240 But kids who are apparently, allegedly, according to reports from this middle school and elsewhere,
00:43:07.100 actually identifying as these things, that's obviously a problem.
00:43:13.920 According to the American Enterprise Institute, Democrats, you know, they've decried book banning
00:43:20.240 in school libraries, but they've failed to acknowledge that books being removed were
00:43:23.540 actually sexually explicit.
00:43:24.920 According to the Heritage Foundation, 75% of supposedly banned titles and books are still
00:43:31.460 available elsewhere, but they've been removed from school libraries because they're sexually
00:43:36.560 explicit.
00:43:38.120 And you've got a lot of Democrats who are very upset about this.
00:43:42.180 Remember, again, going back to Florida, when Ron DeSantis signed the bill into law that simply
00:43:50.560 said, look, kindergarten through third grade, like you can't talk to kids about transgenderism.
00:43:55.760 You can't teach them about sexuality.
00:43:58.180 You can't have books.
00:43:59.340 Kindergarten through third grade alone.
00:44:00.800 Okay, so like five to nine-year-olds and people freaked out.
00:44:04.500 Disney sued him over this.
00:44:06.820 They were so mad that you couldn't show porn and talk about transgenderism to five to nine-year-olds
00:44:13.600 in schools.
00:44:15.960 I think it was, there was a publisher that sued the state of Florida.
00:44:20.140 You had the American Library Association saying things like, public education needs to be a
00:44:27.220 site of socialist organizing.
00:44:29.120 Libraries do too.
00:44:30.400 Um, so of course, Marxists always use sexual deviancy to recruit their people.
00:44:37.860 And that includes, um, that includes during, uh, during school and because they know that
00:44:44.340 kids' brains are so malleable and that's how they get them early.
00:44:49.620 Uh, when we look specifically at pornography and it's linked to violence and it's linked to
00:44:56.720 sexual aggression, this has been well-documented for many years.
00:45:00.560 For example, a 2018 paper published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence reported that
00:45:05.640 88% of scenes in popular pornographic videos depict physical aggression.
00:45:10.720 Wow.
00:45:10.940 Almost 90% depict physical aggression.
00:45:15.500 48% show verbal aggression and 94% of aggressive acts targeted women.
00:45:21.500 So obviously there is something very evil going on here.
00:45:25.800 And people freaked out the other day when I talked about something that Charlie talked
00:45:31.980 about a lot is the damage of pornography on men, but also it's victimization of women
00:45:37.820 and children because a huge part of pornography is degradation and humiliation and objectification.
00:45:44.800 It doesn't matter if the people involved are consenting.
00:45:47.420 It still has an effect on objectifying the entirety of the population, but especially women.
00:45:53.120 And again, I think that is the link here that people who are obsessed with transgenderism,
00:45:59.300 cissification, um, bestiality, things like that.
00:46:03.200 It is about the humility or, uh, it is about the humiliation rather.
00:46:07.380 And it is about the, um, the submission aspect to it.
00:46:12.620 These people trying to feel powerful or wanting to be humiliated themselves.
00:46:16.340 And you could see how that leads to a form of, um, uh, a form of aggression and violence.
00:46:25.060 Um, also we can see that pornography, according to a study in the Journal of Early Adolescence,
00:46:31.980 leads to less, um, uh, lower aptitude in schools, lower academic outcomes.
00:46:40.480 There are links to poor mental health, that heavy porn use is related to higher depression,
00:46:48.280 anxiety, lower relationship satisfaction in men.
00:46:52.680 Um, it drags down long-term success in men.
00:46:56.740 This is according to a 2023 study in the Journal of Behavioral Addictions.
00:47:02.560 Uh, we can also read in a 2025 study from the University of Texas published in the Journal of
00:47:08.500 Sexual Medicine that examined the mental health outcomes in over 107,000 adults with so-called
00:47:14.460 gender dysphoria.
00:47:16.300 Um, and they found that, that, uh, rates of depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation,
00:47:23.060 substance abuse disorders were significantly higher among, uh, transgender people who underwent
00:47:29.060 surgery and were, um, assessed two years later.
00:47:33.420 And the link here that I'm trying to say is that there's actually so much crossover.
00:47:38.500 And the symptoms of people who are addicted to pornography and the symptoms of people who
00:47:43.640 identify as the opposite sex, even those who go through surgery, I actually think that
00:47:50.140 the connection there or that the commonality is there because what is persistent through
00:47:55.100 the transition is an addiction to pornography is this kind of depraved fantasy land that they
00:48:02.140 are retreating to.
00:48:03.200 And that is not actually fixed through surgery.
00:48:05.680 I think it would be fixed through, of course, repentance and like the grace of God, but just
00:48:10.840 stopping pornography.
00:48:12.000 I think if pornography went away forever, then rates of transgenderism among men would absolutely
00:48:18.520 plummet.
00:48:20.560 Men, according to this study, uh, with surgery had depression rates of 25% compared to man, uh,
00:48:26.460 males who identifies the opposite sex without surgery at 11.5%.
00:48:30.200 Anxiety rates among that group were 12.8% compared to 2.6%.
00:48:36.700 And then the same thing among females, high rates of depression who underwent surgery, anxiety
00:48:42.680 rates were very high.
00:48:44.760 Surgeries that aimed to feminize individuals showed particularly high rates of depression
00:48:50.340 and substance abuse after two years of the procedures.
00:48:54.400 This study found according to UCLA, more than 40% of transgender adults in the U S have attempted
00:49:01.520 suicide.
00:49:02.320 And again, this is not due to people not affirming them.
00:49:06.520 Um, this is because they are in distress with their body due to what I think is actually
00:49:12.060 sexual depravity, not believing that they are born in the wrong body.
00:49:15.920 All of this distress, the pornography addiction, the sexual deviancy, the retreating to bestiality
00:49:23.980 and other forms of very dark depravity, I think is what is contributing to their violence.
00:49:30.160 There is a reason why, um, we look at school shootings like the Minneapolis Catholic school
00:49:35.920 shooting this year, Iowa school shooting in 2024, Nashville Christian school shooting in 2023,
00:49:41.500 Colorado Springs gay bar shooting 2022, Highlands Ranch, Colorado school shooting 2019,
00:49:47.140 Aberdeen, Maryland warehouse shooting 2018, that all of these people, all of these suspects
00:49:52.440 allegedly identified as transgender.
00:49:55.400 Now, if this is such a small portion of the population, it's like really weird and coincidental,
00:50:02.020 right?
00:50:03.280 That all of that, they seem to be responsible for so much, uh, violence.
00:50:09.560 I think also, if I remember correctly, the person who tried to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh,
00:50:15.340 it was just found out if maybe we could fact check this, that it was just found out that this
00:50:19.900 person was also identifying as transgender.
00:50:23.360 Like this is a huge problem.
00:50:25.040 So the fact that we have someone like representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, um, tweeting this, that
00:50:31.600 the transgender, this transgender awareness week, we celebrate the resilience, courage, and beauty
00:50:35.900 of the trans community.
00:50:37.580 Your lives matter, your stories matter, and your right to thrive and exist authentically
00:50:41.180 is non-negotiable.
00:50:42.240 We stand with you today and every day.
00:50:44.600 Okay.
00:50:44.980 Actually, you know what?
00:50:46.100 I'm going to play this, um, this video that I found of Haley Bieber, who I thought was
00:50:53.660 like, I thought that she was a Christian saying this about transgenderism.
00:50:58.500 People are trying to be mean.
00:50:59.900 They're like, she looks trans.
00:51:01.120 And I'm like, why do you think that's a diss?
00:51:02.700 Wait, totally.
00:51:03.840 As if being like trans is a diss or like some of the most beautiful women in the world and
00:51:08.580 men in the world are trans.
00:51:09.840 So I just don't take that offensively at all.
00:51:12.360 Like, why are we treating this as if this is normal and not actually like a very big deal
00:51:19.320 in society?
00:51:19.920 Am I saying that everyone who identifies as transgender is violent?
00:51:23.420 No, but I'm saying that it's disproportionate.
00:51:25.920 And that's a problem.
00:51:27.160 And we should be thinking a little more critically.
00:51:29.240 If we love our neighbors, if we love our neighbor who identifies as transgender, if we love our
00:51:34.080 neighbor who is possibly a victim of this violence, then we should be speaking very clearly about
00:51:37.940 this.
00:51:38.220 And by the way, if you're a Christian, like forget all of these statistics, just go to
00:51:42.860 Genesis 127.
00:51:44.220 God knew we might forget about this and get confused.
00:51:46.480 So he said, I don't even need to make you read 30 verses.
00:51:49.860 Just read 27 verses in.
00:51:51.760 And you'll see that in the beginning, God made them male and female in his image.
00:51:55.000 He created the male and female.
00:51:56.160 He created them right there.
00:51:57.980 He repeats it.
00:51:59.120 We see it repeated by Jesus in Matthew 19, four through five.
00:52:01.880 Have you not read that he who made them in the beginning, made them male and female and
00:52:05.620 then defines marriage as the man leaving his father and mother and holding fast to his
00:52:09.820 wife and the two becoming one flesh.
00:52:12.520 So we see this reiterated by Jesus.
00:52:14.460 It's not a question.
00:52:15.500 It's not nuanced.
00:52:16.480 It's not possible to be born in the wrong body.
00:52:18.460 It's not possible to be a man who is actually a woman.
00:52:21.760 It's not possible to be a girl that is actually a man.
00:52:24.780 It's not possible.
00:52:26.240 It is something that is wrong with the mind that goes very deep into a spiritual problem
00:52:30.060 that Christians have to love people enough to be able to speak the truth about.
00:52:34.880 And if your empathy is leading you in the direction of affirming sin or supporting destructive
00:52:39.780 policies, what has your empathy become?
00:52:42.000 It has become toxic.
00:52:44.380 Christians are called to the truth in love.
00:52:46.540 First Corinthians 13, six, we never rejoice in wrongdoing.
00:52:50.280 Love doesn't rejoice in wrongdoing.
00:52:52.040 It doesn't rejoice in sin.
00:52:53.320 It rejoices with the truth.
00:52:55.900 Rejoice with the truth.
00:52:57.800 Christian, when it comes to gender, it can literally save someone's life.
00:53:02.460 And I'll talk more about that in a second.
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00:54:37.020 So what we can see from the beginning, and even though we are not bound to all of the
00:54:46.140 laws of the Old Testament, we can look at the principles of the laws behind the Old Testament,
00:54:50.100 and we can see God's wisdom.
00:54:51.860 Leviticus 20.13, if a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed
00:54:57.360 an abomination.
00:54:58.420 They shall surely be put to death.
00:55:00.080 Their blood is upon them.
00:55:02.300 And of course, that's not the only place where we get our prohibition against homosexuality.
00:55:08.140 What do we always say?
00:55:09.120 Rooted in creation.
00:55:10.400 The verse we just referenced in Genesis reiterated throughout Scripture, like honor your father
00:55:13.980 and mother, repeated by Jesus himself, Matthew 19.4-5, representative of Christ in the church,
00:55:19.720 Ephesians 5, and reflective of the gospel.
00:55:22.540 The Bible starts with the marriage and ends with the marriage.
00:55:24.960 Marriage between Adam and Eve, and the marriage between Christ and his bride, the church.
00:55:30.180 And so earthly marriage, as defined between one man and one woman, is so important that
00:55:33.780 it is reflective of an eternal spiritual reality, the marriage between Christ and his church.
00:55:40.480 We also read prohibition, very good and wise prohibition in Leviticus 20.15-16 against bestiality.
00:55:48.020 If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal.
00:55:51.980 If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal.
00:55:55.480 They shall surely be put to death.
00:55:57.340 Their blood is upon them.
00:55:58.800 You know what's interesting is that I always see people on the left who identify as Christians,
00:56:03.940 and they want to say, oh, they nitpick Leviticus, and they look at the original Hebrew,
00:56:08.820 and they say, oh, you know, this is not actually prohibited.
00:56:12.060 This was for some special reason.
00:56:14.180 They just wanted to keep the numbers up in the tribe of Israel, so that's why they prohibited homosexuality.
00:56:20.700 Actually, it's accepted today.
00:56:22.740 Are they making the same argument against the ban on bestiality?
00:56:27.960 Because if you're saying basically any sexuality goes, and there were very specific, culture-specific,
00:56:32.920 time-specific reasons to ban homosexuality back in the Old Testament,
00:56:36.660 are you also making the same argument about bestiality?
00:56:39.380 Now, maybe some are, but I haven't seen the more mainstream so-called progressive Christians do that,
00:56:43.700 but that would be a good question for them.
00:56:45.960 That'd be a good question.
00:56:47.080 Do you also think that that's acceptable, and if not, why not?
00:56:51.700 While the words transgender and non-binary obviously don't appear in Scripture,
00:56:56.220 we know Genesis 1.27, we even see a prohibition on a woman cross-dressing or a man cross-dressing in Deuteronomy 22.5.
00:57:06.720 Another thing that you see people saying a lot is, you know, transgenderism, homosexuality is not a sin.
00:57:12.500 And they just dismiss kind of Old Testament as just Old Covenant, and that doesn't apply to us.
00:57:18.400 Or they might say, oh, well, that Greek word is different in the New Testament.
00:57:22.020 But they don't have anything to say about God very clearly laying out what exactly is prohibited in Christian sexuality.
00:57:31.060 Romans 1.24-27.
00:57:32.020 Therefore, God gave them up in the lust of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
00:57:38.420 because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the creator,
00:57:44.040 who is blessed forever.
00:57:45.200 Amen.
00:57:46.040 It goes on to say that God gave them up to dishonorable passions.
00:57:50.320 Women exchanged the natural relations with men.
00:57:53.400 For relations with women, men did the same thing.
00:57:56.640 They received within themselves the due penalty for their error.
00:57:59.340 That could be interpreted a variety of ways.
00:58:02.020 But then it goes on to say that their sexual confusion, the women becoming like men in their sexuality,
00:58:08.300 the men becoming like women in their sexuality, actually gave them over to a depraved mind in all ways,
00:58:16.160 that they were filled with unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, and malice, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness,
00:58:22.640 gossip, slanders, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
00:58:29.040 They knew God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die.
00:58:34.900 But they give approval to those who practice them as well.
00:58:39.320 And so we can see that many times this kind of sexual depravity also leads to all other kinds of sin.
00:58:45.960 Again, not saying that everyone who identifies as gay or LGBTQ is also guilty of all of those things,
00:58:51.980 but this is just the nature of sin and denying the reality of our bodies.
00:58:57.960 2 Corinthians 4.4 I think is relevant.
00:59:00.260 In their case, the God of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ,
00:59:07.020 who is the image of God.
00:59:08.400 There really is a blindness.
00:59:10.360 It's so important for all of us, no matter how you identify, but as Christians, to honor God with our bodies.
00:59:17.580 As Christians, it's a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.
00:59:20.700 Ephesians 5.5-6 also reminds us,
00:59:23.200 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous, that is, an idolater.
00:59:28.900 Again, we talked about this a couple weeks ago.
00:59:31.140 Sexual immorality and idolatry are so often listed together as things that God hates in Scripture.
00:59:36.320 In the book of Jude, people, you know, they'll say that Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality,
00:59:50.440 but the book of Jude makes very clear that it actually does,
00:59:53.520 that that is why God's wrath was poured out on Sodom and Gomorrah.
00:59:56.500 And in 2 Peter 2.6, if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes,
01:00:00.820 he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly.
01:00:07.080 God takes sexual morality very, very seriously.
01:00:10.440 For the Christian, this is what we are called to.
01:00:12.580 Romans 12.2,
01:00:13.980 Don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind,
01:00:17.920 that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good, acceptable, and perfect.
01:00:23.600 Scripture is totally clear.
01:00:24.780 God's specific judgment for persistent, unrepentant sexual perversion and the violence it spawns are this immediate destruction,
01:00:32.820 death under the law, being handed over to ever-deepening depravity in this life,
01:00:37.920 loss of inheritance in the kingdom of God, eternal fire, second death.
01:00:42.460 So we don't live in a theocracy.
01:00:44.040 We're not called to build a theocracy like of implementing all Old Testament law to today,
01:00:49.460 but we can see in principle that God really hates this kind of sin.
01:00:53.220 And if we love our neighbors, and if God is love, then a way to love our neighbors is to call out this sin as clearly as we can,
01:01:01.520 to do everything we can to protect sheeps from going to the slaughter.
01:01:06.360 And yes, in policy, protect minds and hearts from this kind of depravity that really has a chaotic and violent effect on all kinds of victims,
01:01:16.620 both the people who consume it and then the people who are victimized by those who consume it.
01:01:21.780 Philippians 4 also reminds us to only focus on that which is lovely and excellent and praiseworthy.
01:01:28.640 That's Philippians 4, 4 through 8, that what we fill our minds with really matters.
01:01:34.000 Ephesians also reminds us, don't be drunk with wine for that is debauchery, but we filled with the Spirit.
01:01:39.240 And while we're not talking about drunkenness here, we can see the principle throughout all of this that whatever fills you controls you.
01:01:45.680 Whatever you are filling your body with, whatever you are filling your mind with, whatever you fill your heart with is going to control you.
01:01:53.640 The Holy Spirit should be controlling us as Christians, and we want Him to be able to compel us completely uninhibited.
01:02:00.240 But whatever we fill our minds with is going to determine the direction of our thoughts,
01:02:04.560 which of course leads to our words and actions, which has a real effect on our neighbors.
01:02:10.380 Okay, so that is the clarity that I wanted to give us today to remind us and to renew us in our efforts in speaking the truth in love
01:02:18.260 and to be a bastion of clarity and courage to a very confused and chaotic world.
01:02:22.440 On Friday, we are going to be talking about the Nigerian genocide with someone who knows firsthand what is really going on there.
01:02:31.420 There's been a lot of mixed messages about what's going on in Nigeria, who's at fault and who is being victimized.
01:02:37.240 We're going to bring it all to you on Friday.
01:02:39.380 We'll be back here then.
01:02:52.440 We'll be back here then.