Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 31, 2026


Ep 1296 | Uncovered: Our Enemies Are Fueling Anti-ICE Protests | Peter Schweizer


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

166.95998

Word Count

8,475

Sentence Count

548

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

Alex Preddy was the confirmation liberals needed to show the world that Trump is indeed Hitler and that fascists are killing their political opponents. But nothing is as it seems. Peter Schweitzer, the author of the book The Invisible Coup, reveals a stunning finding from his investigation. Many of the protests taking place all over the country right now are puppeteered by the Chinese Communist Party, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Mexican government. We ve got all of that and much more in this eye opening episode of Relatable.


Transcript

00:00:00.800 Alex Preddy was the confirmation liberals needed to show the world that Trump is indeed Hitler
00:00:06.080 and that fascists are killing their political opponents.
00:00:09.340 But nothing is as it seems.
00:00:12.420 Peter Schweitzer, the author of the book The Invisible Coup, reveals a stunning finding
00:00:17.000 from his investigation.
00:00:18.600 Many of the protests taking place all over the country right now are puppeteered by the
00:00:22.620 Chinese Communist Party, the Muslim Brotherhood, and even the Mexican government.
00:00:27.660 We've got all of that and much more in this eye-opening episode of Relatable.
00:00:41.960 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:00:44.220 Happy Friday.
00:00:45.540 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
00:00:48.080 The episode or the interview that we're about to play for you is so incredibly mind-blowing.
00:00:53.420 But before we get into it, I want to give an update on what's going on in Minneapolis,
00:00:58.040 specifically with Alex Preddy.
00:01:00.740 Now, if you've been listening to the past couple of episodes, if you've been following on social
00:01:04.460 media, you know who this man is.
00:01:07.280 This was a man who was a VA nurse who was impeding a law enforcement operation with ICE, and he
00:01:15.140 was tragically killed by ICE.
00:01:17.320 And there has been a lot of discussion and conflict surrounding what actually happened.
00:01:23.020 Was this a justified shooting or not?
00:01:25.520 I've gotten lots of pushback from some people for saying, we still don't know all of the
00:01:31.080 facts surrounding what happened.
00:01:33.720 And that is true.
00:01:35.000 There are multiple camera angles, but we still don't know everything the officers saw and heard
00:01:41.520 in that moment that may have made them feel like their life and other people's lives were
00:01:48.520 at risk.
00:01:49.000 So we're going to wait to see the results of those investigations.
00:01:52.460 But one thing that we now know not to be true was that he was just a peaceful bystander.
00:02:00.880 That is the caricature that we have seen described over the past several days by people in the
00:02:08.040 media, by online activists to say that he was just standing there with his phone wanting
00:02:13.620 to cause no problems at all and that he was completely unjustifiably targeted by ICE.
00:02:20.560 We can have an issue with how his life was taken, but to paint that kind of picture we now know is
00:02:29.580 just not true.
00:02:30.360 So this footage was released from 11 days prior to Preddy losing his life that seems to show
00:02:37.780 Preddy.
00:02:38.420 We're saying seems to show because while this has seemingly been verified by outlets like
00:02:43.600 the BBC, I still can't see his full face.
00:02:47.440 He's got the same sunglasses and hat on, but there are media outlets verifying that this
00:02:52.340 is in fact Alex Preddy.
00:02:53.920 So here is this person agitating law enforcement very aggressively days before he was killed.
00:03:01.160 Let's play Sot 3.
00:03:04.080 This is a moment the news movement filmed on January 13th in Minneapolis, showing a man
00:03:09.140 who appears to be Alex Preddy interacting with federal immigration agents 11 days before
00:03:14.420 Border Patrol shot and killed him.
00:03:17.400 We also know from a separate report that Alex Preddy had suffered a broken rib several days
00:03:22.740 prior to being killed, and it looks like if you watch the rest of this video that that
00:03:27.680 was probably from this interaction.
00:03:29.140 After he kicks the taillight out of the vehicle of ICE, one of the officers gets out and tackles
00:03:36.340 him to the ground, which is justified, by the way, and that is probably where he got injured.
00:03:41.720 But not only is he taunting law enforcement in this way, he is also blatantly saying, assault
00:03:48.740 me.
00:03:49.400 Here's Sot 2.
00:03:49.880 Okay, so this is why I say we just don't know all of the facts and the extenuating circumstances
00:04:15.700 surrounding when he was killed.
00:04:17.260 Obviously, this person had been very aggressively agitating ICE for several days.
00:04:24.000 Did they have their eye on him knowing that he was a powder keg that could explode at any
00:04:29.680 moment?
00:04:30.380 Had they seen how he acted and how he spoke and the threats that he made for several
00:04:35.860 days that made them think, okay, we've got to watch this guy because he is on edge and
00:04:41.300 we have a very good reason to believe that if armed, he would harm us.
00:04:48.260 And is there a good reason to believe that they would be skeptical of someone who is carrying
00:04:54.020 a gun with two extra magazines to a demonstration like this?
00:04:59.520 Is there a good reason for them to believe that he actually was a threat?
00:05:03.600 Do you have the right to carry a gun?
00:05:06.980 Yes, in a lawful way.
00:05:09.060 He didn't have his license on him at the time, so that is unlawful in the state of Minnesota,
00:05:13.560 but you do have a Second Amendment right to carry a gun.
00:05:16.700 Do you have a First Amendment right to protest?
00:05:19.740 Yes, but this was not a protest.
00:05:21.640 He wasn't protesting out there in the street.
00:05:23.260 He was trying to impede completely justified and valid law enforcement operations.
00:05:30.220 I still say there is a question of whether that specific shooting at that time was justified,
00:05:37.160 but I'm not going to buy into the narrative that is being pushed upon us.
00:05:44.640 This is something that progressives do a lot.
00:05:47.280 They not only say, hey, this was wrong.
00:05:49.780 What happened to George Floyd in this moment was wrong.
00:05:51.960 But then they also venerate these people, almost to the place of being these perfect saints.
00:05:57.920 We actually saw that.
00:05:59.340 We talked about that on Wednesday, the weird AI enhancement of Alex Preddy, and we can put that up.
00:06:06.480 We've got the picture on the right that MSNOW, MSNBC, and other outlets were showing,
00:06:13.740 and then we've got his actual picture on the left.
00:06:16.720 And this really was displayed on MSNOW, and the link was going around to the YouTube segment,
00:06:23.840 and then they ended up editing out this AI-enhanced photo that they had been circulating and other outlets had been circulating.
00:06:32.160 And it's just very strange.
00:06:34.200 Like, if you're just trying to highlight injustice, why do you have to make him tanner?
00:06:38.620 Why do you have to make his shoulders more broad?
00:06:41.960 Why do you have to shorten his nose and widen his face?
00:06:45.480 Why do you have to make him look more handsome, arguably, than he is in the left side?
00:06:53.120 If it is just to highlight injustice, then you don't have to tell this kind of lie.
00:06:57.520 And we've got Anna Navarro on CNN.
00:07:00.680 She's saying, look, Alex Preddy was perfect.
00:07:04.100 He's the kind of guy who would babysit your dog.
00:07:06.340 Here's thought six.
00:07:06.960 They chose to, they killed the wrong guy, right?
00:07:10.780 Because this is like the perfect guy.
00:07:14.000 Alex Preddy is the guy you would want to date your daughter.
00:07:17.080 The guy you would want your son to grow up to be.
00:07:19.900 A decent human being who was serving humanity, serving sick veterans, who is, you know,
00:07:27.560 there is nothing that has been said about that man that isn't wonderful.
00:07:31.000 And so they can't malign him.
00:07:34.400 They can't malign him because we have the videos.
00:07:39.060 Okay.
00:07:39.460 I've got more to say about this in just a second.
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00:08:53.220 Here's what the media is doing, whether they realize it or not.
00:08:56.440 They're pushing people who were previously sympathetic to Alex Preddy into the camp of callousness.
00:09:02.860 Because we can all have a logical conversation, a compassionate conversation about whether or not what happened in that moment was justified.
00:09:09.960 But when you zoom out and you see the person he apparently was, an agitator to law enforcement, it makes people wonder if there was some kind of justification.
00:09:20.720 But then when you look to the media and you see them trying to make him more handsome, when you see someone like Anna Navarro saying that he was a saint, I've seen this all over Instagram, that he was basically this perfect, compassionate veteran who did nothing wrong, who was just there trying to help a woman up who had just been pushed to the ground and he was targeted for no reason just because he was filming with his phone.
00:09:43.580 When you see that kind of caricature, you're actually pushing people away from defending him and pushing people away from being persuaded by the progressive narrative.
00:09:56.340 People are like, you know what, I don't really think that I'm going to latch on to the propaganda campaign that you are pushing.
00:10:03.200 So I just want to remind you that there are some questions that you should ask whenever anything emotional happens, whether it's George Floyd on the concrete or whether it is Alex Preddy or whether it is the five-year-old that was supposedly detained by ICE and used as bait, which we now know is not true.
00:10:23.520 And yet those emotional images of that precious child wearing the blue toboggan, I mean, that pulls on your heartstrings.
00:10:30.860 And when you see that video completely decontextualized and the caption says, this person was arrested by ICE and used as bait, but his mom was scared to come outside, like it's really easy just to believe that.
00:10:41.640 And actually, you feel like a bad person for not believing it.
00:10:44.180 If you don't believe it and you don't repeat what they say and you don't call in for ICE when you see that five-year-old supposedly victimized, then you feel like a bad person.
00:10:53.060 And you feel like a coward.
00:10:54.960 And yet, of course, that's been debunked.
00:10:57.020 His father ran away from him.
00:10:58.280 His mother said, no, I don't want that child to come inside.
00:11:00.400 Maybe she was scared.
00:11:01.840 The ICE agents took care of him, bought him a happy meal.
00:11:04.700 But of course, you didn't see that originally.
00:11:07.300 So next time, before you react immediately, wait.
00:11:12.080 Ask a few questions, at least four questions.
00:11:15.440 Ask one, how do I know this to be true?
00:11:18.780 How do I know this to be true?
00:11:20.940 You should ask that when you're listening to this podcast, too.
00:11:24.560 How do I know that to be true?
00:11:25.640 Number two, is there more context that I'm not seeing or hearing?
00:11:30.500 Is there more to this video?
00:11:32.280 Was there something that happened before or after?
00:11:34.680 What is going on here that I don't know?
00:11:37.360 Number three, is there an alternative explanation to what this person is claiming?
00:11:43.440 So when it came to that little boy, the caption said he's being detained by ICE.
00:11:47.480 Is it possible that that caption is not true?
00:11:50.980 Is it possible that something else is happening that I can't see and I don't know and this person
00:11:56.860 sharing this video does not know?
00:11:59.680 And number four, what are the sources for this information?
00:12:03.620 For example, I saw this horrible story.
00:12:07.640 This woman, an illegal immigrant, she gave birth here.
00:12:10.860 Her child was in the NICU.
00:12:13.040 And the story read that this woman was being detained and she was detained temporarily.
00:12:18.860 She was then reunited with her child, but her milk dried up during that time and it was horrible.
00:12:22.860 And of course, as a mom who has given birth to three kids, that pulls on my heartstrings.
00:12:26.660 And it does make me sad.
00:12:27.820 And it's okay to feel sad for her and to feel compassion.
00:12:30.060 And we should, but what I noticed when I was reading this story is that there was no source
00:12:34.760 for this information.
00:12:35.600 This journalist never said, I talked to the woman.
00:12:37.820 I talked to the doctor at the hospital.
00:12:39.820 I verified this information.
00:12:42.120 Here's my source.
00:12:42.860 And then I saw commentators just repeating the story as if it's fact, never asking, but
00:12:47.740 how do I know this is true?
00:12:49.320 And where am I getting this information?
00:12:52.420 So I know that I've said this a million times.
00:12:55.400 I am not trying to get you not to feel.
00:12:57.940 I'm not trying to get you not to have compassion or even for your compassionate instinct to
00:13:04.500 be arrested when you see sad pictures like the little boy in the blue toboggan.
00:13:08.980 I'm trying to get you not to allow your feelings to lead you to a place that is not true.
00:13:15.980 People got really mad at me when I talked about the messaging battle that is going on, but there
00:13:21.120 is a messaging battle going on.
00:13:23.080 And public messaging influences public policy, which influences the public.
00:13:28.980 Politics matter because policy matters because people matter.
00:13:32.520 And so what we believe and what we repeat, even if it's done in the name of compassion,
00:13:38.880 has a real impact.
00:13:41.300 And so before you reshare, before you repost, before you regurgitate the talking points,
00:13:49.100 ask yourself these questions and remember your words have an impact.
00:13:53.360 It's really easy for us to see stories like this and to selfishly think, well, how can I
00:13:57.940 look good?
00:13:58.860 How can I make sure that I'm checking the box or scoring the point or making sure that
00:14:04.320 everyone knows that I'm a good person?
00:14:06.780 But Christians are called to something much more thoughtful than that.
00:14:10.940 You're called to the truth in love.
00:14:12.300 Remember 1 Corinthians 13, 6, love never rejoices in wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
00:14:18.200 Truth in love always goes hand in hand for the Christian, factual, logical truth, and also
00:14:22.720 biblical truth.
00:14:24.260 And the reality is, is that what we're seeing right now, the outrage campaigns, all of the
00:14:29.120 influencers posting things, trying to pressure you into saying the same things they are,
00:14:33.220 the anti-ice sentiment, none of that is really organic.
00:14:38.020 Yes, their feelings might be real, but it is all being orchestrated by people both in and
00:14:43.920 outside of the country who want to see the destabilization of American cities.
00:14:49.860 We touched on this just slightly on Wednesday, but today we're going to get into it.
00:14:54.220 I'm talking the Chinese Communist Party, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, these entities
00:15:00.280 all throughout the world who see the West and America as enemy number one are using chaotic
00:15:06.580 moments like this to weaponize compassion against the United States.
00:15:13.460 We don't have to play a part in that, but in order for us to opt out in a healthy way,
00:15:17.940 we have to know what's going on.
00:15:20.340 And that's why we're talking to Peter Schweitzer today.
00:15:23.220 He wrote an entire book on this, how progressives are using immigration as a weapon and how these
00:15:29.460 bad actors throughout the world are using very sophisticated and well-funded propaganda campaigns
00:15:36.380 to lie to you and to change the makeup of the United States.
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00:17:00.020 Peter, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
00:17:02.620 First of all, congratulations.
00:17:04.240 Your new book, number one on Amazon.
00:17:06.060 It's about to be a number one New York Times bestseller.
00:17:08.280 Is that right?
00:17:09.520 That's right.
00:17:10.340 Very excited.
00:17:11.260 The response has been amazing and I'm glad the word is getting out.
00:17:15.020 Yeah.
00:17:15.800 Okay.
00:17:16.160 Tell me your reaction to what's going on in Minneapolis right now, especially in light
00:17:20.840 of what you've just written about in this book.
00:17:23.680 Well, I think what's happening in Minneapolis is sort of a microcosm of a larger issue and
00:17:28.780 that is what I call the weaponization of immigration.
00:17:31.980 We've been having an immigration debate in this country, which is good and healthy about
00:17:35.820 how it affects our economy, how it affects safety in our streets, you know, getting these
00:17:39.920 rapists off the streets, et cetera.
00:17:41.500 But there's something more going on and that's this weaponization of immigration.
00:17:45.980 So what do I mean by that?
00:17:47.760 There are foreign actors.
00:17:49.380 Some of them are foreign governments like China, like Mexico.
00:17:52.620 Others are foreign movements like the Muslim Brotherhood who have weaponized immigration
00:17:57.380 by importing or bringing foreign political, sometimes violent networks into our country.
00:18:03.980 And this, I think, is important to understand that you have people that come here that want
00:18:08.920 to be part of the American dream, that want to embrace it, but you also have these very
00:18:12.400 nefarious actors and we're not able to sort between the two.
00:18:16.740 So the clash and the violence and the corruption that we're seeing in Minneapolis is happening
00:18:23.260 in Minneapolis, but it's also happening around the country from Los Angeles to New York City.
00:18:30.120 And it's part of a larger, what I call, civilizational struggle between the United States
00:18:34.920 and these nefarious actors.
00:18:37.000 OK, tell me how exactly this works, because from my end, as an Instagram user, I see a
00:18:43.020 bunch of these influencers and all of these people posting anti-ICE, anti-immigration
00:18:47.680 enforcement content.
00:18:49.480 And it seems organic.
00:18:51.500 These people are crying into the camera about how awful this is that we're deporting illegal
00:18:56.760 aliens.
00:18:57.900 But you're telling me that this is not really organic.
00:19:00.780 So how does this work?
00:19:01.940 Yeah, some of it's obviously organic.
00:19:04.940 But to your point, yeah, a lot of it is is being generated and created.
00:19:09.960 And I'll give you a couple of examples.
00:19:11.260 So the governor of the government of Mexico, people kind of view Mexico as kind of this
00:19:16.540 corrupt, hapless government.
00:19:18.840 They really can't get anything through.
00:19:20.340 They actually have a very aggressive program in the United States to meddle in our politics
00:19:25.840 in really, really direct ways.
00:19:28.380 So, for example, they have this network of Mexican government officials who actually live
00:19:34.640 inside the United States.
00:19:36.800 These are senior government officials that answer to the Mexican government, but actually
00:19:41.840 live in the United States.
00:19:43.320 And some of them are involved in fanning the flames and even organizing some of these violent
00:19:48.800 protests we've seen.
00:19:50.000 So, for example, when we had the riots in Los Angeles last year, there were several Mexican
00:19:55.260 officials.
00:19:55.860 I named them.
00:19:56.680 I quote them in the book that were fanning the flames.
00:19:59.280 They were on social media.
00:20:00.560 They were connected with the groups that were engaging in these violent protests.
00:20:05.000 You had last year a Mexican official named Alejandro Robles.
00:20:09.240 He's the head of international operations for the Morena Party, which is the ruling party of
00:20:15.940 Mexico.
00:20:16.400 That's the party that the current president is aligned with.
00:20:20.160 And he, in 2025, was going across the United States to, in his words, organize the militancy.
00:20:28.460 And he bragged about how he and migrants and people he was working with were at, quote,
00:20:34.580 the forefront of civil resistance in America, end quote.
00:20:38.480 This is, again, a foreign government official who lives in Ontario, California.
00:20:42.600 And he was meeting with people like the People's Forum, which is an Antifa group in New York.
00:20:50.360 And he was meeting with many others.
00:20:52.480 Then you look at what's going on in Minneapolis and you notice that the Twin Cities, of course,
00:20:58.400 St.
00:20:58.620 Paul, has a Mexican consulate there.
00:21:02.240 And there are several groups, clues, and another one's called MIRAC, which are involved in some
00:21:07.480 of these violent protests, who do a lot of work with the Mexican embassy.
00:21:11.800 Then let's switch to China just briefly.
00:21:14.440 Two of the very radical groups that you see pop up all the time in these street battles,
00:21:19.280 whether it's Minneapolis, Los Angeles, certainly during BLM, certainly during the anti-Israel
00:21:25.820 protests across the eastern seaboard.
00:21:28.240 These two groups are FRSO, the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, and PSL, the Party for
00:21:35.720 Socialism and Liberation.
00:21:37.220 These are small but extremely active.
00:21:40.560 They believe in direct action, which is basically violence.
00:21:44.540 These two groups have committed themselves ideologically, and they are aligned with and work with the
00:21:50.000 Chinese Communist Party.
00:21:51.160 And some of these groups are getting funding from a gentleman named Roy Singham, a billionaire,
00:21:58.680 American billionaire, who lives in Shanghai, describes himself as a Maoist, who is close
00:22:03.820 to the CCP.
00:22:05.460 So, yes, you do have, you know, these, let's say, women in their 50s in Minnesota that are
00:22:11.160 blowing whistles and screaming and shouting at ICE officers.
00:22:14.240 But the people that are really doing the direct action, a lot of the fighting, a lot of the,
00:22:19.280 you know, organizing the, you know, the frozen bottles of water that they're throwing at ICE
00:22:23.460 officers, these are these foreign-involved or foreign-directed entities, and that's what's
00:22:29.460 really going on here.
00:22:30.840 Yes, and I want to be clear about what I was talking about earlier about these influencers
00:22:36.000 who are posting this kind of anti-ICE, what I believe is propaganda.
00:22:39.640 It's not that I believe those people are directly Chinese actors.
00:22:45.000 They are funded by the CCP.
00:22:47.480 But all of these entities, you're saying, is simply contributing to the chaos that is
00:22:53.500 then leading, possibly, and you can clarify if this is kind of not what you're arguing,
00:22:58.060 but people like Renee Good or Alex Preddy to put themselves in front of ICE officers to
00:23:04.080 pretend that they're fighting Nazis to justify this kind of agitation and impeding law enforcement
00:23:10.460 operations that then is getting them killed.
00:23:14.120 And then those images are used as a catalyst for even more activism to try to oppose immigration
00:23:21.780 enforcement.
00:23:22.580 And within all of that are these agitators and these propagandists from foreign government
00:23:27.260 that are foreign governments that are kind of stoking the flames of this confusion.
00:23:31.980 Is that correct?
00:23:32.840 Yes, that's exactly right.
00:23:35.360 That's very well said.
00:23:36.600 And look, the bottom line is, and I understand why people say we need to figure out ways to
00:23:42.120 tone down the conflict, and I agree with that.
00:23:44.840 But let's be honest.
00:23:46.520 The goal, what they want is to ramp up the conflict.
00:23:50.980 When you say we need to try to tone it down, the assumption there is that the other side also
00:23:56.700 wants to tone it down.
00:23:57.900 The sad reality is these hardcore activists, they want martyrs.
00:24:02.260 They want people that are getting shot and getting killed because it's good for the cause.
00:24:06.540 It's a horrible view, but that is what their view is.
00:24:09.460 So we need to realize that.
00:24:11.220 We also need to realize that this is part of a national problem.
00:24:15.280 It's not just an issue related to Minneapolis.
00:24:18.460 We're going to see this cropping up elsewhere.
00:24:20.180 There are already efforts to organize, I think, maybe happening tomorrow, a nationwide protest.
00:24:27.920 And again, it's going to be direct action where they are physical confrontations with
00:24:32.060 law enforcement because they want a fight.
00:24:34.220 They want somebody to be severely injured or attacked because they feel like it's good
00:24:39.160 for their cause, and it undermines American civilization.
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00:26:04.900 You know, past governments have deported illegal aliens.
00:26:09.140 Barack Obama was kind of nicknamed deporter-in-chief, and he removed about, I think it was 3 million
00:26:15.140 illegal immigrants.
00:26:16.580 And ICE operated in much the same way.
00:26:19.260 People say, oh, he did it with due process.
00:26:21.560 He did it much more humanely.
00:26:23.560 Well, that's not really true.
00:26:24.520 We just didn't see this kind of violent reaction, calling ICE agents Nazis, calling them Gestapo,
00:26:32.000 you know, calling Obama Hitler.
00:26:33.560 That's not something that was occurring back then when he was removing families and sending
00:26:37.900 them back to South America.
00:26:39.340 So tell me why that is.
00:26:41.680 Yeah.
00:26:42.100 No, it's, you're exactly right.
00:26:43.860 I mean, people say, oh, you know, they're walking around with masks on.
00:26:46.680 Why are they walking around with masks on?
00:26:48.600 They weren't doxed 10 years ago.
00:26:50.480 There weren't people running around when Obama was doing this, trying to dox and physically
00:26:54.920 threaten ICE agents and their families.
00:26:57.620 So there's a reason for this.
00:26:59.400 And again, what's happening is very sophisticated.
00:27:03.420 It's very organized.
00:27:05.040 So you see, you know, when these things happen that they're organizing on these private chats.
00:27:11.820 And a lot of these techniques are things that have been developed by, you know, Cuban intelligence
00:27:17.300 and other entities.
00:27:18.780 Some of the people involved in these protests have actually been trained in Cuba, part of
00:27:23.640 the so-called Vince Ramos brigades.
00:27:25.960 So this is, this is something that is not random.
00:27:29.520 And if you watch the extended videos of what's happening in the streets, rather than these just
00:27:35.320 small snippets, the organized nature of this is what happened.
00:27:40.060 And so let's summarize what's at stake here, Allie, because I think people sometimes forget
00:27:45.140 the larger picture.
00:27:46.640 Here's the bottom line issue.
00:27:47.900 Nobody seemingly disputes that federal law says that we have a right to deport these people.
00:27:56.040 Nobody disputes that federal law enforcement is doing what they're supposed to be doing,
00:28:02.160 which is deporting people.
00:28:03.500 You have Tim Walls and you have other local officials who have decided we don't like that
00:28:09.180 federal law.
00:28:09.860 So we're going to muck it up and make sure that they can't actually carry out federal law.
00:28:15.480 The last time this happened was in 1950s, 1960s, Mississippi and Alabama.
00:28:20.900 It's the exact same thing.
00:28:22.660 You've got an arrogant governor who is saying, an arrogant governor who is saying, I don't
00:28:28.160 care what the federal law says.
00:28:29.440 I don't care what a national election concluded because Donald Trump said he was going to do
00:28:33.200 this.
00:28:33.700 I decide that I'm not going to allow federal law to be enforced in my state.
00:28:38.800 And Tim Walls is another guy who wants martyrs and wants conflict because he thinks it's a
00:28:43.980 politically good issue for him.
00:28:46.520 Right.
00:28:46.740 You know, you say that this is a national problem and it obviously is.
00:28:50.780 But others have pointed out that this kind of deadly chaos is not happening in every single
00:28:56.560 jurisdiction.
00:28:57.540 Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche pointed this out.
00:29:00.400 You know, we're also deporting illegal aliens in Texas and we're not seeing this kind of
00:29:05.080 conflict.
00:29:05.720 Let's play thought one.
00:29:06.540 We deport 10 times the number of illegal aliens out of Texas than we do out of Minneapolis.
00:29:12.660 Why do we hear nothing out of Texas about any of the same problems that we have in Minneapolis?
00:29:17.920 I'll tell you why.
00:29:18.960 Because in Texas, we have the cooperation and support of local law enforcement so that we
00:29:23.020 can do these operations safely, keeping U.S. citizens and others protected and safe.
00:29:28.460 That is not what we have in Minneapolis.
00:29:30.380 And the fact that it's the administration that's being blamed for the utter failure of leadership
00:29:37.000 in Minneapolis is not right.
00:29:39.260 It's not appropriate.
00:29:40.180 And it's also not true.
00:29:42.880 OK, so Minneapolis was also the epicenter of chaos back in 2020.
00:29:47.200 Why is it that places like L.A., Portland and Minneapolis seem to just attract this kind
00:29:53.940 of conflict?
00:29:54.880 Oh, it's a great question.
00:29:57.360 And the answer is, in order to engage in this kind of direct action successfully, you need
00:30:03.320 essentially the the complicit support of local authorities.
00:30:07.680 You need mayors and governors who are not going to deploy local law enforcement and you need
00:30:13.380 local prosecutors that are not going to prosecute people.
00:30:16.140 So, you know, it's happened in Minneapolis.
00:30:18.500 You can, you know, go into a church, take over the church service.
00:30:21.840 You can threaten people.
00:30:23.020 You can do a whole host of other things.
00:30:24.560 You can be told to leave and ignore that request.
00:30:27.500 You're going to be arrested and local prosecutors are going to basically say, yeah, well, no,
00:30:31.940 we're not going to we're not going to allow this to go through.
00:30:34.200 So you need to have both of those elements.
00:30:36.660 And the reason that you see the fight so viciously in places like Minneapolis and California
00:30:42.960 is political power.
00:30:45.240 That's really the bottom line.
00:30:46.880 If you look at the state of California, Ali, they have because of illegals in the state of
00:30:53.500 California, four more congressional seats than they would ordinarily have because of illegals
00:30:58.740 in that state.
00:30:59.500 Because when we do the census, which determines the electoral college apportionment and determines
00:31:05.320 the number of congressional seats you get, we're not counting citizens.
00:31:09.980 We're counting people.
00:31:11.220 And so they want illegals in their state for that reason.
00:31:15.800 And if four congressmen doesn't sound like a lot, consider the fact that illegals in California
00:31:22.560 have more representation than people in 13 other U.S. states that have smaller congressional
00:31:28.440 delegations.
00:31:29.260 So it's an enormous political benefit.
00:31:33.500 That's why you're seeing resistance in California, Illinois, Minnesota, these states that have lost
00:31:40.040 large populations since COVID with sort of the migration from these blue states.
00:31:45.420 They cannot have deportations on a large scale within their states because they will lose political
00:31:53.060 power and they will also lose money because let's remember federal block grants on a whole host
00:31:58.600 of issues, transportation, et cetera, is again determined by the census.
00:32:03.100 That's why they're fighting this so viciously.
00:32:05.520 It's not humanitarian.
00:32:07.180 It's for their own political benefit.
00:32:09.000 You know, that kind of answers another question that I had is why did we see all of this opposition
00:32:15.000 to ICE after the widespread fraud in Minneapolis was revealed?
00:32:20.400 I mean, now we know that these Somalians, some legal, some illegal, were using daycares,
00:32:26.060 adult daycare centers, whatever that is, to get a lot of money from the taxpayer and that
00:32:32.140 that money is seemingly being funneled to the Democrat Party, other politicians in the
00:32:37.120 state of Minnesota.
00:32:38.380 And it's just strange that, you know, people in Minnesota would say, after I realize my taxpayer
00:32:45.620 money is being stolen from me for nefarious ends, that's when I'm going to get really angry
00:32:50.700 that people are being deported.
00:32:52.180 That, to me, doesn't seem like an organic, logical reaction.
00:32:56.500 Yeah, no, I think that's a great point.
00:32:58.840 And I think that the fraud in Somalia, again, we're missing, I think, the larger issue here.
00:33:04.280 Not to say that a multibillion-dollar fraud in the state of Minnesota is not a big deal,
00:33:09.840 but I think the way people have viewed this is that this is kind of, again, you know, people
00:33:15.240 come here from Somalia.
00:33:16.660 It's one of the most corrupt places on the planet.
00:33:19.120 That's not me saying that.
00:33:20.180 That's what all the surveys say.
00:33:22.460 And so people say, well, this is just kind of what you would expect.
00:33:26.620 But this is, again, actually highly organized.
00:33:29.640 And one of the things I point out in the book is when it comes to groups like the Muslim
00:33:33.260 Brotherhood, they are very active in America's mosques.
00:33:37.700 A lot of the mosques in the United States are run by individuals who are here on R1 visas,
00:33:43.980 religious worker visas from overseas.
00:33:46.380 They're actually not from the United States.
00:33:48.360 And one of the things they preach is this sort of strange notion that public assistance fraud
00:33:57.380 is like a tax on non-Muslims that are owed to Muslims.
00:34:03.340 It's called jizrat, I think is what they call it.
00:34:05.780 And there are preachers, including in places like Minnesota, who have said this, who have
00:34:09.900 argued this.
00:34:10.440 So it's not just that you have people saying, hey, let's we think we're going to engage in
00:34:14.900 fraud.
00:34:15.360 You actually have people that are encouraging this kind of behavior, at least among people
00:34:20.820 that are part of their faith.
00:34:23.640 Obviously, a lot of Muslims would reject this view.
00:34:26.340 But the bottom line, this is a very vocal movement that's pushed by the Muslim Brotherhood
00:34:32.180 to engage in this kind of fraud, that it's legitimate behavior.
00:34:36.560 And that makes it even more difficult to tamp down on.
00:34:39.800 And I think that's the reason we're going to see more of these cases involving people
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00:36:18.820 Can we hone in on how the Muslim Brotherhood and Islam is being used as a vehicle to change
00:36:26.620 American culture and to change the electorate and to shift power into the hands of one political
00:36:33.800 party?
00:36:35.500 Yeah, no, that's a great question.
00:36:36.760 Let me just, I'm going to, I'm going to read you two quotes just because I think it's better
00:36:40.920 than me just saying it.
00:36:41.940 And it gives an indication of where these activists are coming from.
00:36:45.440 The first one is from the head of Florida CARE.
00:36:48.680 CARE, of course, you've talked about it.
00:36:50.200 Others have talked about it.
00:36:51.520 Council on American Islamic Relations.
00:36:53.680 This is from a 2025 speech.
00:36:55.560 Listen to what he says.
00:36:57.020 How do we even justify living here in the United States?
00:37:00.840 I mean, why are we living here?
00:37:02.580 Have we asked ourselves this question?
00:37:04.220 Why are we living in the United States?
00:37:06.140 The only answer I believe is excusable and justifiable is if we are living here to shift
00:37:12.740 this country's political direction and spiritual direction together.
00:37:17.220 Or another quote from a board member of CARE, of the National Board, quote, ultimately, we
00:37:22.880 can never be full citizens of this country because there is no way we can be fully committed
00:37:28.240 to the institutions of this country.
00:37:30.580 We can be citizens in the sense that we try to influence American policy.
00:37:35.300 So it begins with this very aggressive effort within the Islamic community to say, no, don't
00:37:42.540 assimilate.
00:37:43.260 And if you do assimilate, we are going to ostracize you.
00:37:46.680 We are going to attack you and criticize you.
00:37:49.460 Because the point is, they do not want people that immigrate here of the Muslim faith to embrace
00:37:55.460 the American dream.
00:37:56.660 That means they're going to lose them.
00:37:58.200 So you have this very organized, highly funded effort by these activists, by these groups,
00:38:04.280 by these imams to fight against the United States, not embrace it.
00:38:09.280 And there are numerous other quotes in my book.
00:38:12.260 There's an imam at one of the biggest mosques in Michigan who said just, you know, a year
00:38:19.160 ago, he told everybody in the congregation, we need to fight Western civilization.
00:38:26.080 Western civilization is over.
00:38:28.020 We are the future.
00:38:28.980 We need to fight it.
00:38:30.780 So it begins with that.
00:38:33.000 And then it begins with, again, in their own words, their hope that American apathy will
00:38:39.380 serve their political agenda.
00:38:41.520 They firmly believe that if they can achieve a population of, you know, 10 or 11 percent
00:38:47.620 in a certain area, they can win elections.
00:38:50.140 Because most of the average American is, you know, politically not that engaged.
00:38:55.360 They don't vote.
00:38:56.400 They certainly don't vote in primaries.
00:38:58.220 And they use the Mamdani election in New York as an example.
00:39:02.140 And people want to think, well, that's crazy New York.
00:39:04.720 That's not where I live.
00:39:06.200 They talked about this several years before, that if we can find a Muslim candidate that
00:39:11.740 we can get behind, we can win the Democratic nomination because we can get our people out
00:39:17.560 to vote, even though we're a small percentage of the population.
00:39:20.740 And that's the model they are now going to replicate across the country.
00:39:24.540 And they're very confident that they're going to have success.
00:39:27.520 The final thing I would say, Ali, is that, again, there is an international component to
00:39:31.780 this.
00:39:32.340 I talk about this in the book.
00:39:34.160 Mamdani's election in New York was watched very closely in Tehran.
00:39:38.120 And it was also watched very closely by groups like Hezbollah, the terrorist group in Lebanon,
00:39:42.780 because they see these victories in the United States as an opportunity to expand their sphere
00:39:48.860 of influence within our own borders.
00:39:52.040 So tell me why the Muslim Brotherhood, Mexico, the Chinese Communist Party, who do not believe
00:39:58.920 in things like transgenderism, disproportionately support progressivism and the Democrat Party
00:40:05.900 in the United States.
00:40:07.980 Yeah, no, it's a great question.
00:40:09.240 It's the most bizarre thing when you see the trans rights activist next to, you know,
00:40:14.400 the devout, radicalized, fundamentalist Muslim who would reject everything that the trans
00:40:21.220 rights activists believe and how they're living their life.
00:40:23.780 And the answer goes back to a meeting that sort of began what is called the Red-Green
00:40:29.780 Alliance between the Marxists and the Islamists.
00:40:33.260 It was a meeting in 2007 when the son and daughter of Che Guevara, the butcher of the
00:40:39.640 Cuban Revolution, who, you know, some college students wear a T-shirt with his image on
00:40:45.700 it on college campuses.
00:40:47.520 His adult children, who are atheist Marxists who live in Cuba, traveled to Tehran to meet
00:40:52.860 with the mullahs.
00:40:54.400 And according to the accounts of that meeting, the meeting did not get off to a good start.
00:40:59.200 They first, they started arguing about the existence of God, and they obviously had very
00:41:03.660 different views on that.
00:41:04.820 But eventually they brushed all that aside.
00:41:07.320 And Ali, what they concluded and what they said after that meeting is, we disagree on a
00:41:12.200 lot of things, but we agree on one thing.
00:41:14.620 And that is the fundamental need to destroy the United States and Western civilization.
00:41:20.280 So this is a marriage of convenience.
00:41:22.660 And what I would say to my progressive friends out there, and I do have friends that I disagree
00:41:28.140 with politically, is you should read the quotes in my book, because what the Imams will tell
00:41:33.920 you is, this is a marriage of convenience.
00:41:36.460 When we have won, we are going to deal with these people, because we find these progressives,
00:41:42.100 these atheists, these trans-right activists, abhorrent.
00:41:45.440 And once we defeat Western civilization, don't worry, we're going to go deal with those people.
00:41:50.260 So it is a marriage of convenience.
00:41:52.600 They are going to divide the spoils.
00:41:54.760 And then the Islamists are going to declare war on the progressives at that point in time.
00:42:00.200 Yeah.
00:42:00.500 It's not that these Islamists actually agree with the values of progressivism.
00:42:05.180 It's that the values of progressivism make them vulnerable to conquest.
00:42:09.920 When you value completely untethered to truth, by the way, tolerance and diversity and unconditional
00:42:16.960 open-mindedness, unconditional acceptance and inclusion, you become very vulnerable to chaos.
00:42:23.400 And so to me, that is why the CCP and these other groups that are really opposed to a lot
00:42:29.280 of their principles take advantage of them and, you know, take on progressivism like a
00:42:34.860 skin suit.
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00:44:00.700 Okay, gosh, there's so much more that I want to ask you.
00:44:03.080 I've got two more questions quickly.
00:44:04.660 We've talked about surrogacy and really the global surrogacy and trafficking industry that exists
00:44:12.820 and how China in particular takes advantage of our immigration laws here
00:44:18.400 and uses American surrogates to create Chinese-American babies.
00:44:23.860 Tell us what is going on behind the scenes there and why that is happening.
00:44:28.300 Yeah, this might be the most horrific thing that we uncovered.
00:44:31.840 Look, we have this debate in the country about birthright citizenship, the 14th Amendment.
00:44:37.160 Some people believe the 14th Amendment means that anybody born within the borders of the United States,
00:44:43.180 that baby automatically gets U.S. citizenship.
00:44:46.200 And I think a lot of people have a sense that, like, is this really a big deal?
00:44:50.440 I mean, okay, somebody comes across the border.
00:44:52.960 They live here 20 years.
00:44:54.480 They happen to have a child.
00:44:55.460 The problem is that China has an industrial-scale exploitation of birthright citizenship
00:45:02.420 that is creating a massive national security problem.
00:45:06.240 And so what do I mean?
00:45:07.240 Well, our federal government has no idea how many children have been born here
00:45:12.540 that are getting birthright citizenship.
00:45:14.700 They have no idea because when you get a birth certificate in the United States,
00:45:17.640 it does not give the nationality of the parents.
00:45:20.220 Nobody's tracking it.
00:45:21.300 Our federal government doesn't know.
00:45:23.100 China has encouraged this.
00:45:24.940 They've encouraged it in the People's Daily, their biggest newspaper.
00:45:30.200 They've told members of the Chinese elite,
00:45:32.440 go to the United States, you can get citizenship for your kids.
00:45:35.700 They allow a thriving industry where there are literally hundreds of companies
00:45:40.900 that will make these arrangements for members of the Chinese elite.
00:45:44.440 The question, of course, is why?
00:45:46.380 Why would China want its elite to get U.S. citizenship?
00:45:49.560 And I think we all kind of know what that answer probably is.
00:45:52.760 But the scale here is the point I want to emphasize.
00:45:56.680 China has, the Chinese government has investigated this.
00:45:59.860 Chinese research firms have looked at it.
00:46:01.860 And they say that over the last 13 years, every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese babies
00:46:10.600 have been born in the United States.
00:46:12.280 In other words, their parents fly here.
00:46:13.940 The mother gives birth after a couple of weeks.
00:46:17.620 When the baby is ready to travel, they fly back to China.
00:46:21.300 And the child will be raised in China, in CCP schools, with the CCP control, with CCP media.
00:46:28.840 And the problem is, when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote in the United States.
00:46:34.520 And they're going to be able to contribute to political campaigns.
00:46:37.040 And they're going to be able to apply for government jobs.
00:46:39.380 So do the math.
00:46:41.140 We're looking at more than a million, according to the Chinese government estimate,
00:46:45.100 of quote unquote U.S. citizens, I'll put that in air quotes,
00:46:48.580 who are being raised in China that are going to be able to start voting in our elections
00:46:53.640 in just a couple of years.
00:46:55.640 Let's remember the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton,
00:46:59.700 was settled by, what, 72,000 votes.
00:47:02.440 So this is a massive problem.
00:47:04.540 You have the additional problem of surrogacy.
00:47:06.660 This is when Chinese elites will hire a woman in the United States.
00:47:11.960 They'll pay her $50,000 to $60,000 to carry their baby.
00:47:15.400 When that baby is born, it will be given U.S. citizenship.
00:47:18.740 It's born here.
00:47:19.700 Its mother is also a U.S. citizen.
00:47:22.240 We don't know the scale of this.
00:47:24.340 The Chinese government has not looked into it.
00:47:26.480 Again, it's openly advertised in China.
00:47:28.880 But a couple of brief data points.
00:47:30.520 Number one, we looked at Southern California and we found 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies
00:47:39.700 that are advertising these services in China.
00:47:42.880 107 just in Southern California.
00:47:45.500 And the second data point is the Wall Street Journal ran a story about five weeks ago
00:47:49.980 involving one man, a Chinese billionaire close to the CCP,
00:47:54.180 who says that he alone by himself has more than 100 children that were born in the United States
00:48:03.120 that are being raised in China right now.
00:48:05.080 So this is a massive, massive vulnerability and problem.
00:48:08.640 Yeah.
00:48:08.820 I mean, it's human trafficking.
00:48:10.740 And it's not even just for the purpose of trafficking these humans and making money and all of this.
00:48:15.520 But as you are arguing, this has long-term political consequences when you have this dual citizenship
00:48:21.900 and they're being propagandized their whole lives against the United States,
00:48:25.460 then can come back to the United States.
00:48:27.520 So obviously, we are talking about illegal immigration, but we're talking about legal immigration, too.
00:48:32.340 We are talking about not enforcing the laws on the books and the laws on the books not being what they should be.
00:48:37.780 What do you see the Trump administration doing to combat all of the things that we've been talking about?
00:48:44.800 Well, very fortunate, before the book came out, I had about an hour-long meeting with the president,
00:48:52.420 the Treasury Secretary, Besson, and also the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, were in that meeting in the Oval Office.
00:48:58.760 We laid out a lot of this information.
00:49:00.780 It can't go into details, but I expect we're going to see some action from the Trump administration.
00:49:05.180 I would also add that we had very good meetings on Capitol Hill with a number of U.S. senators
00:49:11.140 and with James Comer, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee.
00:49:15.180 I will be testifying before the Senate on the issue of China surrogacy and manipulation of birthright citizenship.
00:49:22.660 I think it's on March the 10th.
00:49:24.820 And I also have reason to believe that the administration and others are going to be using this information
00:49:32.000 in the Supreme Court discussions on birthright citizenship.
00:49:36.180 Those arguments, I think, will be occurring in a few weeks.
00:49:39.320 And I just think it's vitally important for the Supreme Court justices to realize
00:49:43.520 these are not random things that just kind of happen.
00:49:46.560 This is highly organized.
00:49:48.320 It is an industrial-scale effort to mint U.S. citizens.
00:49:52.940 And these U.S. citizens are being raised in China.
00:49:55.440 And they will have the rights that all of us have who live here and participate and love America.
00:50:01.520 Peter, thank you so much.
00:50:02.960 The Invisible Coup, How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.
00:50:07.620 This is the book that everyone needs to read right now to know what's really going on.
00:50:11.940 Peter, thank you so much.
00:50:13.780 Thanks so much for having me, Allie.
00:50:15.120 I enjoyed it.
00:50:15.660 I enjoyed it.