Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1385 ｜ 'He's a Warlock：' Kathryn Krick’s Spiritual Father’s Dark Secrets

00:00:00.760 Catherine Crick, the self-appointed apostle, credits a man named Jordavy with her spiritual

00:00:05.800 development. But Jordavy, the African faith healer, has now been accused by several women

00:00:11.040 of sexual grooming, harassment, and abuse. We have spoken to many of these women directly

00:00:16.780 in the past few weeks, and some of the details that they have exclusively revealed to our team

00:00:22.380 are nothing short of shocking. We have seen texts, we've reviewed private audio, and today

00:00:27.660 the truth is coming out about George Davey, his spiritual predecessor, Catherine Crick,

00:00:32.180 and what she knew and when. We've got all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable.

00:00:47.320 Hey y'all, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend and that

00:00:51.740 your week is off to a great start. In case you missed it, my Jubilee debate with Monty Mader

00:00:56.800 came out on Friday.

00:00:58.460 Hopefully you've been able to watch

00:01:00.260 or catch some clips over the weekend.

00:01:02.040 But if you haven't, here's a little teaser.

00:01:04.040 Jesus is not limiting marriage.

00:01:05.660 It is not prescriptive for the limitation of marriage.

00:01:08.120 He is directly answering the exact question

00:01:11.080 that they asked him.

00:01:12.480 And again, these are documented words of Christ

00:01:14.380 in the gospel written way long after his death,

00:01:16.800 but it does not exclude same-sex partners.

00:01:19.940 And the reason I brought up people's salvation

00:01:21.320 is again, you're making the claim

00:01:22.820 that Christians cannot affirm same-sex marriage.

00:01:27.180 So the inverse of that is you can't be a Christian 0.63

00:01:29.620 and affirm same-sex marriage. 0.72

00:01:31.020 That's making a claim on someone's salvic status

00:01:33.580 through a thing that is not in the creeds

00:01:35.560 and not in the salvation order at all. 0.99

00:01:37.780 You can't be a Christian and affirm same-sex marriage 1.00

00:01:40.080 and be correct. 1.00

00:01:41.120 That is the claim.

00:01:42.520 All of us are going to die, 1.00

00:01:44.060 every denomination of Christian, 0.99

00:01:45.480 every true believer, 0.81

00:01:46.840 having some part of our theology wrong.

00:01:48.980 All of us who are going to heaven

00:01:50.920 will go to heaven not being right about everything because we are not inerrant and we are not

00:01:56.100 infallible. I would say when it comes to the biblical support, it's not only the creation

00:02:00.980 account. It's not only Jesus's words, which I do believe are not just descriptive, but also

00:02:05.700 prescriptive. But it's also when we look at something like Romans 1, we're not just looking

00:02:10.960 at pederasty. We're not just looking at marriage. We actually see that the attraction, even the

00:02:16.420 desire in Romans 1, we read, is unnatural. It's actually something that points to a form of

00:02:22.520 depravity, God through Paul says, in Romans 1. And so I think Christians have a very firm 1.00

00:02:27.880 foundation biblically, if we are to believe in the Bible as authoritative at all, to say, yeah,

00:02:32.900 gosh, the only holy form of matrimony that we see explicitly throughout the picture is between

00:02:38.920 All right. We will be breaking this down a little bit more on Wednesday on that relatable episode,

00:02:46.120 just like we did in my surrounded debate that came out last September. Always fun to get to

00:02:52.460 spar. I love engaging with, um, ideas like this. I'll get into why the format I thought was a

00:02:59.140 little bit, uh, a little bit tough to really fully flesh out each other's arguments or our

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00:04:04.340 promo code. See you guys there. All right, let's get into it. I don't usually start the show this

00:04:10.940 way, but before we begin discussing today's topic, I just want to ask for prayer for the relatable

00:04:17.500 team, for me, for our protection, for our clarity of mind, our conviction, our commitment to what's

00:04:22.920 good and right and true. Today we are unveiling things that don't want to be unveiled. We are

00:04:27.720 exposing people who don't want to be exposed in an effort to warn against individuals that we

00:04:33.960 believe are wolves among the flock of Christ. That's why this matters. We are certainly not

00:04:38.960 the only ones who have tackled the different aspects of this story. People like Mike Winger

00:04:43.340 have been exposing the spiritual and physical abuse in this movement, in these realms for a

00:04:48.440 very long time. So please pray for everyone, big creator, small creator who is involved in trying

00:04:55.020 to bring to light the things that have been kept in darkness for too long. And also in particular,

00:05:01.600 pray for those who are directly involved in this story. Those who have courageously come forward,

00:05:07.340 shared their testimonies. Also those who have been the perpetrators allegedly of some of the

00:05:13.420 just sickening things that we'll be talking about today. And so pray for repentance and salvation.

00:05:18.440 on one side, and then also pray for healing and help on the other side, for those who have been

00:05:24.320 victimized by the predation that we will be discussing. What we know is what we remind

00:05:29.480 ourselves of on this podcast every Monday, that God's eternal plan of redemption is going off

00:05:33.220 without a hitch, always and without hindrance. And all we can do in the midst of that, trusting

00:05:38.580 in God's sovereignty is the next right thing, in faith, with excellence, and for the glory of God.

00:05:43.480 So all of that said, let's get into it.

00:05:46.860 A couple of weeks ago, you might remember, we looked into the ministry of self-titled

00:05:51.240 apostle, Catherine Crick.

00:05:53.960 Here she is.

00:05:55.040 You might've seen some of her videos on social media.

00:05:57.760 Some of the things that we will be saying at the beginning of this, we touched on a

00:06:01.940 couple of weeks ago, and then other things that we are introducing about her background

00:06:06.400 will be new to you.

00:06:08.240 The reason we started talking about her is because of the videos that were going around

00:06:14.260 of her apparent healings and even just interactions with people at, say, a bookstore as she's

00:06:20.440 signing books and people are flailing on the ground.

00:06:23.320 They're having these seizure-like experiences, and they are claiming to have been delivered

00:06:31.680 by Catherine Crick or sometimes just so, so affected by her mere presence that they begin

00:06:39.460 convulsing. And we compared those experiences to actual demonic exorcism, just to be able to

00:06:46.320 study the fruit of what this woman claims to be. So we went through the videos of her apparent 0.96

00:06:52.500 healings, her supposed exorcisms, and these strange interactions with those who follow her.

00:06:57.080 we went through some of her sermons. We talked about her background and we contrasted her words

00:07:02.900 and her actions to scripture, what the Bible really says about demon possession and exorcism

00:07:09.880 and apostleship, et cetera. And so if you want to detail the breakdown of the theology of these

00:07:16.640 kinds of sessions that she's having, then you should go back and you should listen to that

00:07:21.360 episode from a couple of weeks ago. Now, you might also remember that we briefly discussed

00:07:26.400 a man in that episode who goes by the name of George Davie, whom Catherine claims is her

00:07:32.080 spiritual father. There he is right now. You can see she's at some sort of conference on stage.

00:07:37.400 He is pouring what looks like wine, some kind of grapey red substance on her head.

00:07:43.400 He's wearing all white and what looks like some kind of anointing. So as I said, this is a man

00:07:51.580 whom she claims is her spiritual father. He is a name it and claim it preacher,

00:07:56.480 supposed faith healer and self-professed prophet from Tanzania in Africa. Now, since we did that

00:08:03.060 episode, we have received several messages from people who claim to have knowledge of George

00:08:09.040 Davies' sordid past and the women that he has affected. One that involves his past,

00:08:15.140 that involves allegations of sexual misconduct against a number of women.

00:08:19.880 and we have spoken to some of these women now on the phone over the past few weeks. And we have

00:08:25.980 very carefully gathered and cross-examined the testimonies of these women. Some of the details

00:08:31.700 of these testimonies have already been brought to light by the women themselves or by other outlets

00:08:35.740 and other Christian broadcasters who have reported on Catherine Crick and her LA church,

00:08:42.320 5F church. But a lot of these details have not yet been revealed except for by us because we

00:08:49.620 have spoken to these women now personally. So based on the testimonies that we have received,

00:08:56.440 the facts that we have been able to gather, the corroboration that we have also been able to lay

00:09:03.260 out, we are going to map out George Davies' influence over Catherine Crick and her ministry,

00:09:08.680 as well as his apparent connection to and behavior toward other women who have sought his spiritual

00:09:13.980 guidance. And the question that we need to take a hard look at is this. Does Catherine Crick know

00:09:20.300 the extent of the accusations against the man that she claims to this day is her spiritual father,

00:09:26.940 or in her words, her daddy? The stories of the women to whom we spoke represent what seems to

00:09:34.540 be a pattern of grooming that involves spiritual manipulation, sexual harassment, and abuse

00:09:40.760 masked as anointing and healing. These women have provided texts, they've provided audio 0.77

00:09:48.000 recordings that appear to support their accusations, some of which have never before

00:09:53.440 been publicized. So taken together, these new developments that have come out over the past

00:09:58.520 few weeks are especially significant for at least three reasons. Number one, the allegations go

00:10:03.780 beyond propositioning women for sex as if that wouldn't be bad enough, and now also include

00:10:09.000 allegations of outright sexual abuse. Number two, not only have more women come forward,

00:10:14.760 but they have also produced messages from Jor Davie directly that seem to support these

00:10:19.560 allegations. And then number three, Jor Davie's sexual behavior allegedly involved Crick's close

00:10:24.620 friends. And it appears that she did know about them from the early stages of her ministry with

00:10:31.240 Jor Davie. One of these women that we spoke to warned us on the phone, Jor Davie is a warlock. 0.87

00:10:37.640 be careful. And yet we all keep first John four, four in view, little children, you are from God 0.90

00:10:44.280 and have overcome them for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. Let's get

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00:11:51.340 All right, let's talk about George Davey. Here's a picture of what he looks like. Looks very regal,

00:11:58.900 And as we will get into, um, that is purposeful before we get into all of the allegations that

00:12:05.740 we just alluded to, it's worth understanding the kind of public persona and therefore the

00:12:10.800 kind of power that he has, not just in Tanzania, but in this kind of strange part of the charismatic

00:12:18.320 movement.

00:12:19.040 And I want to say that specifically because this is not a series against all charismatic

00:12:24.500 Christians.

00:12:25.180 This is not even specifically about the gifts of the Holy Spirit continuationist versus cessationist.

00:12:31.440 That's not our concern.

00:12:33.760 There are many, many charismatic Christians who have an issue with all of this.

00:12:38.540 In fact, one of the women who reached out to me specifically is charismatic.

00:12:43.300 She is in the charismatic movement, but she, of course, has concerns about this abuse.

00:12:47.700 And yet someone like this, George Davey has a lot of power, a lot of crossover into American

00:12:54.320 mainstream, um, uh, cares the, the American mainstream charismatic church, but he started

00:13:02.100 in Tanzania and by his own account, he had the gift of prophecy from a young age.

00:13:08.320 As a child, he says that he prophesied to his grandmother that she only had five years

00:13:13.840 to live.

00:13:14.360 And then he says his grandmother died five years later.

00:13:16.960 we don't have a way of verifying that. And George Davies cites this as proof of his calling

00:13:22.120 as a prophet. So that is his apparent origin story. And then according to his own ministry

00:13:28.720 biography in 1999, George Davies founded a small church with about 120 members in Tanzania,

00:13:34.920 which rapidly expanded into this international ministry that he leads today. He has followers

00:13:41.200 and branches extended into all different parts of Africa, Europe, as I said, even the United States,

00:13:47.180 his own church in Tanzania has grown to what he says it's 5,000 members. So significant impact.

00:13:54.620 He says that the goal of his ministry is to reestablish, reestablish the institution of

00:14:00.020 new apostles and prophets in the Christian church. Now I want you to think back to some

00:14:04.780 relatable episodes that we've done over the years. What is like a common phrase that you hear over

00:14:10.520 and over again in quasi Christian or want to be Christian sex. It's a, we need to reestablish. 0.99

00:14:18.680 We need to restore how everything has been for thousands of years has been 100% completely wrong.

00:14:26.460 And we need to establish something new to go back to the way that it was. But then while doing that,

00:14:31.420 they end up making significant changes. Now that is different than a reformation,

00:14:37.480 a reformation, which says we love Jesus. We understand the church fathers, and we just need

00:14:45.060 to make sure that we are going back to his true authority, which is the word. So a reformation is

00:14:49.740 going more deeply into the truth and more deeply into the word of God to make sure that everything

00:14:54.560 is aligned, how it is supposed to be aligned with God's inerrant and infallible word. But when you

00:15:00.460 see this language of reestablishment of creating a new or restoring the new apostolic succession

00:15:09.580 or something like that, it's something that we see, um, among the LDS among the Mormon church

00:15:15.420 as well, then that should right away sound the alarm bells. And then you see what comes after

00:15:22.540 that. Okay. Well, what are the doctrines that come after that? Do they more deeply align with

00:15:26.640 scripture? Are they creating something new? Are they creating new doctrines and new teachings

00:15:32.140 that have nothing to do with what the word of God says or how the early church operated? So

00:15:37.280 that's the distinction here. So whenever I see something like restore, reestablish,

00:15:41.840 I'm always at least going to take a step back and say, okay, what is the fruit of this? And

00:15:45.080 does it align with God's word? Now he says that this is a ministry to ignite the fire of apostolic

00:15:51.300 and prophetic global revival across the nations. He says that he has a divine mandate. Okay. So

00:15:57.920 don't come at him because he's got a divine mandate to advance God's kingdom government

00:16:02.500 as the supreme standard for life. He's got something called advanced anointing events

00:16:08.700 that feature, um, or at least his YouTube features dramatic clips of him preaching over people.

00:16:15.720 Supposedly you can see this casting out demons. Okay. She's flailing back and forth. Her arms are

00:16:21.280 going around and around. He's just kind of standing there. They also seem to be this guy,

00:16:26.440 his helper in front of him seems to have like a, a pin or something that he's balancing on the

00:16:30.980 ground. I guess those things are supposed to be working together. He's anointing people with

00:16:34.980 various callings, various blessings. He posts this video, these videos to his YouTube channel.

00:16:41.120 It's just very unclear what exactly is going on here beyond just a performance. Um, he is, uh,

00:16:49.440 He also is calling himself in the midst of all of this, a prophet.

00:16:53.700 His social media presence emphasizes him more as a celebrity, as this powerful figure in Africa,

00:17:02.340 rather than someone who is warning people of impending judgment, as we see throughout the

00:17:08.580 biblical prophets. He is surrounded in all of his videos and all of his pictures by very

00:17:14.420 conspicuous displays of wealth status prestige we'll put some pictures up of that he emphasizes

00:17:21.100 this on his own social media he's got a very significant social media following um he lives

00:17:26.580 in a mansion apparently as you can see there by one of his youtube thumbnails very strange

00:17:32.400 architecture yeah you see that there that's apparently his house lots and lots of windows

00:17:37.160 if you're not watching this you should watch it it actually looks like a house that the kids in

00:17:41.540 the series of unfortunate events would have been brought to. I don't know. That's just what it

00:17:45.800 reminds me of. It's kind of scary. Um, he also posts videos and again, we're putting up a lot

00:17:52.280 of videos. So if you're just listening to this, these videos are silent. We're just showing you

00:17:55.740 the visuals, but here is a visual that he put up on his YouTube of his Royal Kingly Knights,

00:18:02.540 where he appears wearing jeweled robes and a crown. Okay. So this is from 2019. He's got his

00:18:10.720 whole entourage. He's got his security. He's literally wearing kingly knight royal dinner.

00:18:17.420 He's literally wearing like king garb. I mean, it looks like something that you would get on Amazon,

00:18:21.860 but I'm sure it's supposed to represent just how wealthy, how blessed he is. You've got all

00:18:27.540 these people dressed up. I mean, it is. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. It looks like it's from

00:18:32.080 the 1600s. Okay. So he has also posted tours or posted videos of his tours through impoverished

00:18:40.480 areas of Africa. So that's another very sad part about this. He arrived to these events. So you

00:18:45.260 can see this doesn't look like a very wealthy part. It actually looks like they could use some

00:18:50.320 of that vegetation that is being ripped off of the ground by his helicopter. So he's arriving

00:18:55.720 helicopter, literally swearing a suit. He's got a red carpet that is leading him into his Range

00:19:02.480 Rover. Okay. In this, what looks like an impoverished, impoverished village in Africa, 0.95

00:19:08.760 his Range Rover for some reason is being led by hand. Sorry. It's not funny. It's just ridiculous.

00:19:15.880 The display of power and wealth that he is obviously trying to, that he's obviously trying 0.86

00:19:21.600 to represent. Um, it's important to note as you're seeing the Range Rover, as you're seeing this

00:19:26.840 person land in his helicopter that, yeah, of course we think of all of Africa as poor, but

00:19:33.060 Tanzania specifically is one of the poorest countries in the world. The average person there

00:19:37.620 makes less than $3,000 a year.

00:19:41.060 So let me just show you some pictures of what it looks like.

00:19:44.400 This is not, there's nothing to laugh at about this.

00:19:48.100 This is one of the saddest contrasts that you can think of.

00:19:52.800 And we're talking about someone who claims to be a minister,

00:19:56.560 someone who claims to be a bringer of the gospel.

00:19:59.180 He lives in this country.

00:20:00.720 This is where he's taking his Range Rover.

00:20:03.040 This is where he's flying his helicopter,

00:20:05.800 claims to be a prophet.

00:20:07.620 but cares, it seems like, a whole lot

00:20:09.560 about ostentatious representations of wealth.

00:20:15.180 The latest World Bank poverty data

00:20:17.600 show that more than half the population

00:20:19.480 lives on less than $3 a day.

00:20:21.820 Even access to basic infrastructure

00:20:23.420 remains limited as of 2024.

00:20:25.200 Only about half of the population

00:20:26.980 had access to electricity.

00:20:30.380 Now, am I saying that in order to be a Christian

00:20:33.840 or a Christian in ministry,

00:20:35.320 that you have to take a vow of poverty,

00:20:37.100 that you're not allowed to have any wealth, that you're not allowed to make any profit.

00:20:42.000 No, I'm not saying that. I think that you should work hard. I think it's okay to be able to provide

00:20:47.680 for yourself and I'm not demonizing all forms of wealth. I'm against the prosperity gospel.

00:20:54.120 I'm also against this idea that you have to present yourself as struggling and poor in order

00:20:59.460 to be godly. But there are some questions about how in a country like this, you could be obtaining

00:21:04.920 your wealth, if your only job is a minister of the gospel and a healer and a prophet,

00:21:12.040 there are just some questions about that. And also, even if you are wealthy, say that he was

00:21:16.740 just a very wealthy tent maker or something like that, you would not be landing in such an

00:21:24.900 ostentatious show of your wealth in a helicopter around these poor people. But the message is this,

00:21:33.320 The message is supposed to be, look, God has blessed me this way because I'm special.

00:21:39.580 I'm uniquely endowed with power and authority.

00:21:43.040 Listen to me, give your money to me, sow your seed with me, and maybe he will bless you

00:21:48.420 in a similar way.

00:21:50.380 Okay.

00:21:50.700 That is a very popular message. 0.95

00:21:53.140 Unfortunately, in Africa, there has been a lot of false prosperity gospel that has been 0.99

00:21:57.980 exported from the United States into the U S probably a disciple, 0.94

00:22:02.920 Jordavi himself, and it can be very lucrative for the right kind of person, but obviously even

00:22:10.120 further impoverishing for most of the people in Africa. Now we'll get into more of his followers

00:22:17.340 and what they're like, the intense devotion that has been given to him, the obsession some people

00:22:25.460 have in his circle with him and how this speaks to this cult-like power that he has, that his

00:22:32.140 followers have. So we'll get into that in a second. Let me pause. Let me tell you about

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00:23:31.860 That's good ranchers.com slash alley. So as I said, his followers display this very intense

00:23:43.800 devotion to him. I'm talking like, um, his name tattooed on their face or, or name tattooed on

00:23:51.040 their bodies rather, or face tattooed on their bodies. We have a picture of that. It's full

00:23:56.600 screen five. Okay. This is this picture of him, by the way, it looks like that meme of Shaquille

00:24:03.520 O'Neal or that GIF of Shaquille O'Neal, you know, where Shaquille O'Neal is kind of like shaking

00:24:07.620 his shoulders like this and he's making that face like, Ooh, that's good. Okay. Well, that that's

00:24:14.060 it. This is a man, by the way. Okay. This man has another man tattooed on his chest and George

00:24:21.780 Davies name on the other side of his chest. I excuse the immodesty here, but I thought it was

00:24:28.440 important for you to see a visual of the apparent devotion that these people have. Um, one of the

00:24:34.460 videos on his YouTube channel, it's in Swahili. So obviously we aren't able to easily interpret that

00:24:41.220 the whole thing, or it would take a very long time for us to do that. But we do know that it

00:24:45.460 features a woman who shows your Davey, her tattoo of him, and then explains just how devoted she is.

00:24:52.400 So here's the English translation of this part. I love you, father. My house is full of your

00:24:58.000 pictures. I have banners of you inside my home. I felt that that was not enough. So I decided to

00:25:04.220 tattoo you permanently on my body. So that's just a little bit about George Davey, about his

00:25:12.620 background, the kind of way he presents himself and how others attach themselves to him. So where

00:25:20.380 does Catherine Crick come in? She first encountered George Davey reportedly in September, 2016,

00:25:25.860 according to her, when she attended a healing anointing and impartation conference in Los

00:25:32.040 Angeles. So he had a little USA tour. And then according to Crick's post on Facebook,

00:25:37.480 George Davy prophesied there in 2016 that she was called to be an apostle and that God would work

00:25:44.700 miracles through her. And so we've got this picture that she puts up under this long post

00:25:50.080 explaining her spiritual ancestry through George Davy. So it says on one side, 2016,

00:25:56.780 the day the prophecy was spoken, she's standing there next to George Davey and then 2026 living

00:26:05.100 in a promise fulfilled. She's at her, maybe her church or her conference standing next to George

00:26:10.440 Davey, looking at him with cheery admiration. Um, so that original prophecy apparently led

00:26:19.100 Crick to start her own church, which was then called advanced anointing. And as she held her

00:26:25.660 first service in June of 2017. And just an aside, like if you're like, wait, hang on,

00:26:32.460 Catherine Craig, who is that? Who's her background? Again, we gave all of her background, her story,

00:26:37.460 her pursuits of fame long before she went into so-called ministry on that original episode

00:26:42.600 about Catherine. So go back and you can watch that if you need more context about her specifically.

00:26:48.180 George Davey was listed as the official director of the church for at least the first two years

00:26:53.460 of the church's existence and this is evidenced by the church's 990 tax filings publicly posted

00:26:59.360 online so you can see that name of organization door davy ministries international that is um

00:27:08.020 that's 2016 so that would have been right before the first the first service that she had in 2017

00:27:15.200 and just to show that his influence has continued her church which is now 5f church after 2020

00:27:23.140 she was doing kind of a revival in the park type thing, advanced anointing became 5F church. And

00:27:29.120 now they meet in a building in LA. Um, and just this July, her church appointed eight men to

00:27:35.660 ministry and they all had to travel all the way to Tanzania. So here, here it is to be anointed

00:27:41.640 by George Davey. Crick publicly continues to support George Davey and hosts events with him,

00:27:47.420 such as this quote-unquote impartation service

00:27:50.640 two months ago in the Philippines

00:27:52.640 where she showers him with praise at one.

00:27:54.980 It is such an honor,

00:27:58.020 such a blessing to have Prophet Dr. Jordavy here today

00:28:02.680 releasing the anointing,

00:28:05.320 releasing the word of God for all of us.

00:28:08.860 Amen?

00:28:10.180 I'm telling you, you don't know how blessed you are.

00:28:14.760 Really.

00:28:15.440 this servant of god has left me in awe for now almost 10 years come this september

00:28:23.360 i am so in awe with the love of jesus that he has in his heart i am so in awe with the character of

00:28:31.840 christ that he has that he exhibits that he exemplifies and leads with i am so in awe with

00:28:38.420 how powerfully God uses him. Okay. Just what we know about George Davy so far that we've

00:28:46.240 demonstrated to you so far, like we see quite the Delta, right? Between the character and the life

00:28:51.000 and the ministry of Jesus, and then someone like George Davy. And so even that, her getting up and

00:28:55.980 saying the things that she is about George Davy and another poor country like the Philippines

00:29:00.200 should raise some red flags. And so to this day, Catherine Crick is a big defender of the guy that

00:29:07.400 she is called daddy, that she is called her spiritual father. Now allegations of this man

00:29:13.640 that she is profusely praising have come to light even more than were previously publicized about

00:29:20.400 his alleged sexual misconduct. And most importantly, what Catherine Crick seems to

00:29:27.280 have known already and know right now about the details of these reports. Now, after we did our

00:29:36.140 initial episode a couple weeks ago. We didn't know exactly what the response would be. We knew that

00:29:42.160 there would be a lot of pushback, a lot of people who like her, who run in these circles, who don't

00:29:47.720 want this talked about in a negative way, accused of division and all kinds of things. I didn't

00:29:52.840 expect that some of the women who used to follow George Davey, who used to be in his circles,

00:29:59.020 who used to be someone who praised Catherine Crick and praised George Davey would reach out

00:30:03.760 to us and say, I've got a story to tell, or my friend has a story to tell. And so we took time

00:30:09.160 speaking directly with women who claim to be victims of Jordan about their experiences. We

00:30:15.380 reviewed the evidence they've provided, including texts, emails, audio recordings. And then a couple

00:30:22.400 weeks ago, Guru Magazine, a publication devoted to exposing cults, abusive leaders, and religious

00:30:29.200 and spiritual circles also came out with a report and it's titled this Ellie's viral exorcist

00:30:36.620 Catherine Crick knew of prophets, sexual abuse allegations. So they're outright saying it. Now

00:30:43.320 the guru has been featured in the New York times, Washington post the guardian. They've done a lot

00:30:47.900 of good reporting when it comes to cults. And so as we go through these allegations, we are going

00:30:53.560 to be both talking about directly what some of these women have told us in our team and also

00:31:00.440 the guru's very good reporting on all of this. So in our previous coverage of Catherine Crick,

00:31:06.460 we mentioned the original allegations from Nancy Visser. She is a South African minister. She worked

00:31:12.560 in so-called prophetic ministry with George Davie for years. She has been featured on,

00:31:17.760 you can see her, we'll put up the pictures on George Davie's own YouTube channel. She was

00:31:22.300 promoting his events years ago during the time that they work together. Um, he has also likewise

00:31:29.440 posted pictures of them on Facebook during their time working together. We've got a couple pictures

00:31:35.120 of that, of them talking. Um, previously we also reported that in 2016, Visser said

00:31:42.580 that three women, including one that she knew well, told her that Jordavy had asked quote,

00:31:48.340 to have sexual relationships with them. After Visser confronted George Davey about his alleged

00:31:53.720 advances toward the women, she said that he totally cut off contact with her. Okay. So she

00:31:59.260 was concerned about this, brought it to his intention, attention. And he was like, I don't

00:32:03.740 want anything to do with you. According to her, that is according to reporting in burning point

00:32:08.240 ministries and Christian post. Now, when we talked to Nancy Visser on the phone, she told us more

00:32:13.700 about the circumstances surrounding those allegations. She said this to our team, quote,

00:32:19.040 George Davey invited himself to South Africa and asked me to arrange a speaking tour for him around

00:32:24.220 the country. He stayed for roughly a week to a week and a half. And during the trip told me that

00:32:28.920 he wanted to establish a branch of his ministry in South Africa. And he wanted me and my husband

00:32:33.100 to be the branch managers like Catherine Crick is. And so she is saying that Catherine Crick

00:32:38.360 is basically his branch manager in America, in LA.

00:32:43.040 And she's saying, but he wanted us to do this in South Africa.

00:32:45.580 While he was helping facilitate his ministry here,

00:32:48.540 George Davy was simultaneously, according to her, 0.97

00:32:51.840 propositioning women for sex from his hotel room. 0.81

00:32:56.340 In the Guru Magazine piece, 0.56

00:32:59.300 Visser provided additional details on George Davy's sexual solicitations.

00:33:03.820 Here is a quote from the article. 0.72

00:33:05.060 He wanted one woman to travel to him so they could have sex 0.89

00:33:09.200 and she could receive impartation. 0.68

00:33:12.360 Visser said, he told her she wasn't allowed to tell me

00:33:15.060 because I'm a very jealous person, okay?

00:33:18.600 So, and just an aside,

00:33:19.960 because we've said this word impartation a few times,

00:33:22.980 they describe impartation as the transfer of a spiritual gift

00:33:25.940 from God to a person channeled through another believer

00:33:28.700 who they believe already carries that gift.

00:33:33.260 Oh my goodness, so many things.

00:33:34.520 If you go read first Corinthians 14, if you go read Ephesians about the different gifts that

00:33:39.740 believers can bring to the church or read the passage about the body of Christ, it is God who

00:33:44.880 gives us these gifts for the edification of the church. This whole transfer process, I'm sorry,

00:33:50.880 but it's just another way to gain attention and money. Anyway, Visser said that George Davies

00:33:55.780 sent the second woman messages late at night from his hotel room. He told her he wanted,

00:34:01.380 this is a quote, he told her he wanted mixed race babies and wanted to have sex with her, 1.00

00:34:06.760 Visser said. He said she would be honored because he would impart the anointing to her through sex. 1.00

00:34:13.360 Well, isn't that convenient that that is the channel by which your gift of hospitality or your

00:34:19.940 gift of prophecy or healing is to be transferred? This pattern of portraying sexual advances as

00:34:29.440 part of an anointing process is a recurring theme in these women's allegations. We'll get into 0.97

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00:35:45.980 Let's talk about Melissa Archer. So many of the new allegations are tied to Catherine 0.99

00:35:50.760 Crick's early involvement with George Davy and her subsequent 2018 trip to visit Tanzania. Remember

00:35:56.980 2016, that's when she attended the conference where she claimed she got the anointing and became

00:36:02.840 a prophet. And then she went to Tanzania in 2018. Now also remember that during this time and right

00:36:09.200 before this, she's like in music videos, she's on dating shows. She's like trying to make it in 0.99

00:36:14.980 some way. And then she claims that at this time that God was calling her to use these talents in

00:36:20.880 a different way. In comes George Davy says you're a prophet 2018. She's in Tanzania 2017. She's

00:36:27.900 starting a church by the name of the events that he is hosting a lot going on during this time.

00:36:33.620 And then nine months after launching her church. So this would be in 2018. Crick traveled with

00:36:40.740 four other young women from LA to Tanzania to visit George Davey, who then conducted a ceremony

00:36:46.860 in this 2018 visit in which he bestowed a special blessing on the women to preach the gospel

00:36:52.460 in Los Angeles. So we've got the picture up right there. One of the women who traveled with

00:36:57.560 Catherine Crick, Melissa Archer, has come forward to tell her experiences with George Davey. She is

00:37:03.340 also a somewhat well-known actress. She had pretty big roles in One Life to Live, Days of Our Lives.

00:37:09.140 um melissa archer actually provided the recording of a so-called private deliverance session

00:37:16.300 that geordavia had conducted over the phone in 2018 in which he asked archer according to this

00:37:23.560 recording to detail her sexual history so we have reviewed this entire recording this is not

00:37:29.560 something that we're making public this is not something that has been made public but there are

00:37:33.120 a few who have received this recording and we can confirm that Archer was not, as she said,

00:37:40.260 initially asking George Davey about relationships or about sexual history. That is something that

00:37:46.200 he continues to pivot to. Um, for example, let me play you sought three where George Davey starts

00:37:54.120 to ask her about relationship problems. You, you, you, you never had also someone that wanted to

00:38:01.460 be with you so badly because um whenever he was with you his things were working good but then

00:38:10.100 uh whenever he left you he felt like you fighting like back like like like kind of like oh

00:38:17.380 if you didn't want to be with him like things would it work right with him and wanted to like

00:38:24.260 talk back to you like fighting or talking oh you mean like a like a boyfriend or something yes yes

00:38:31.060 well so it's tricky okay so he says specifically there if you could hear him like sexually and

00:38:38.860 like yeah all the beginning of it is total gobbledygook i would have never had the patience

00:38:43.660 for something like that like he's just going on and on about nonsense but and she's obviously

00:38:49.060 trying to make sense of what he's saying and then he's like yes like sexually at the end of their

00:38:55.700 conversation archer asks some questions about her finances but then right as the call is ending

00:39:00.840 Jordavie again, tries to pivot the conversation in a sexual direction regarding her pets.

00:39:08.040 Top four.

00:39:08.880 Things will begin to align themselves.

00:39:12.060 God is aligning everything according to his will for your life now.

00:39:18.220 Yay.

00:39:19.340 I received that.

00:39:21.160 Amen.

00:39:21.820 Amen, Melissa.

00:39:22.880 Amen.

00:39:24.120 Thank you.

00:39:24.600 You have an amazing night now.

00:39:28.100 I will.

00:39:29.000 I will.

00:39:29.520 thank you so much father okay okay bless you bye bless you too bye bye bye and before you go oh yes

00:39:38.920 before you go um talking about pets uh that you have yeah

00:39:46.440 um nothing that that you think caused you to have them because of a certain reason of your past

00:39:58.940 because of what I see

00:40:01.180 in the spiritual realm

00:40:02.300 like sexually?

00:40:05.320 no like

00:40:06.420 just the thinking

00:40:09.080 I should

00:40:10.900 keep them because

00:40:13.220 this is the reason

00:40:15.060 um I mean

00:40:17.080 nothing no I grew up

00:40:19.220 with pets so I always

00:40:21.000 I mean like I've always had animals

00:40:23.340 since I was little

00:40:24.760 they're like

00:40:26.300 my children

00:40:27.860 okay so just so you know he said nothing that you think caused you to have them these pets because

00:40:35.900 of the sexual reason of your past because of what i see in the spiritual realm okay um

00:40:45.160 so this is the kind of this is the kind of conversation that he was trying to have with

00:40:52.720 melissa archer and she you can tell she clearly it's interesting her voice also sounds like

00:40:57.420 Catherine Crick's voice and her tone of voice, which I don't know, it's just an interesting

00:41:01.060 thing to note about the people who followed him at one point. And I'm so thankful that we have

00:41:07.580 this recording and that Archer was able to share it. But this is how he continued to redirect these

00:41:14.820 discussions to things that are sexual and weird. George Davey claimed that he was spiritually

00:41:19.320 seeing all kinds of graphic sexual things regarding Archer. Again, this seems to be a

00:41:24.460 pattern. At one point he told her, um, among the men I see in the spiritual realm, no one tried to

00:41:32.460 enter you from behind. Okay. So he's claiming to see these visions of things that she has and has

00:41:38.880 not done sexually on the same phone call. George Davey also told Archer that she had been quote

00:41:44.980 unquote spiritually tagged saying that he could see her as a little kid with a sign that said 0.99

00:41:49.720 sex with women only on her breast. I mean, it's hard not to laugh because it's so ridiculous, 1.00

00:41:55.040 but obviously it is serious because this kind of stuff really manipulates. It almost hypnotizes 0.87

00:42:00.240 people into saying silent about abuse. Um, he said this in the recording.

00:42:05.900 And then after this person died, I see another one, a lady that is also seeing you, but seeing 0.99

00:42:14.840 you as as um doing sex with women only this is what was tagged the tag was tagged on you 0.52

00:42:24.780 spiritually wow you know i see a tag i see you as a little kid carrying a tag on your 1.00

00:42:31.300 on top of your back and your breast that says sex with women on wow you know so on the same 0.99

00:42:41.240 phone call after asking archer to describe her past sexual experience to him george davy instructed 0.99

00:42:46.640 her to touch increasingly intimate areas of her body while he said he was spiritually cleansing

00:42:52.740 them okay so again explicit troubling in archer's recording of the conversation he tells her to touch 0.75

00:42:59.360 her breast rub her stomach and then touch her genitalia claiming that he was removing supernatural 0.76

00:43:04.480 marks symbols spiritual attachments he then asked whether she had like asked about the details in 0.99

00:43:11.620 the appearance i can't even say all of this out loud like the appearance of her genitalia what

00:43:16.860 it looked like he prayed while she was touching herself to cleanse it apparently during the call 0.93

00:43:23.500 he questioned her about whether kissing a man had made her sexually aroused and then in a later text

00:43:29.640 exchange, text exchange shared with guru mag. He allegedly framed this sexually explicit

00:43:35.180 questioning because she had questions about it. Like what? So like that, can we talk about that?

00:43:39.660 Like, what was that about exactly? And the moment it seemed like she was kind of overpowered with

00:43:45.060 this idea that this guy who she thought was this authoritative prophet was doing something that was

00:43:50.160 so necessary for her own cleansing and for her own healing. But later she was thinking about it.

00:43:55.080 she was like, what exactly was going on there? Um, and that's my paraphrase. And he responded

00:44:01.440 with this text that was provided to guru magazine, spiritually, God was letting you know that the

00:44:06.860 prophet can see you naked and that he knew how thirsty you were physically. Okay. Archer told

00:44:15.140 guru mag, um, that door Davey pushed these interactions even further in person during

00:44:22.080 their time in Tanzania. And you might be thinking how, why the heck did she go to Tanzania after all

00:44:27.400 of that? Like, I don't think we can fully understand the mentality, but again, just to

00:44:32.940 reiterate, when you are under this kind of manipulation and abuse, and this person claims

00:44:38.720 to be a prophet with power, you can be convinced that what he is doing is holy and anointed by God.

00:44:45.460 And if you resist it, you're resisting God himself. These people are very, very good at

00:44:50.120 convincing you of things like that. So Archer said that Jordavy in person hugged her tightly

00:44:54.940 and looked at her closely in the face and looked like he was going to kiss her. When he hugged me,

00:44:59.440 he held onto me tightly, but gave me a look like he was going to kiss me. And I just freaked out.

00:45:04.960 According to Guru Mag, Archer said that she panicked and made her body go limp. He laid me

00:45:09.720 down on the floor. She said I was in complete panic that he was going to do something. At a

00:45:14.660 later meeting with Jordavy, Archer says that she brought up how uncomfortable that interaction

00:45:20.040 made her only for Jordavy to make a joke about it. She said this, he wanted to know, and this is

00:45:26.640 directly to us, by the way. So we asked about this, we asked about this interaction. Okay. Tell me

00:45:31.540 about it. And this is what she said directly to our team. She said, quote, he wanted to know why

00:45:37.060 I was so afraid of him. He wanted me to know that he was not like other men and that he would not

00:45:42.700 hurt me. He asked me why I looked at him funny during our one-on-one in Africa. And I told him

00:45:48.540 I was worried he was going to kiss me. And he said, according to Melissa, of course not,

00:45:53.500 but then made a joke asking, what if I did want you? So while Archer, um, she got through the

00:45:59.740 visit to Tanzania with nothing beyond that occurring, not that that's not a big deal,

00:46:04.660 but thankfully that was the limitation of what she says occurred. Um, there were other women 0.99

00:46:09.860 apparently who were not so fortunate. It wasn't just jokes. It wasn't just a maybe kiss. It wasn't

00:46:15.960 just an attempt at spiritualized perverse phone sex for other women it was actual assault six 0.65

00:46:25.420 weeks after the 2018 Tanzania trip one of Archer's friends revealed that she had been molested by

00:46:32.500 Jordaby and we're not able to say her name at this point but Archer wrote about her friend's

00:46:37.440 testimony on her personal blog in 2022 a month and a half later my friend confessed she'd been

00:46:43.180 molested by this man and we immediately left the cult. I do believe and know that he's hurt many

00:46:49.120 other women and I hoped he will be stopped. Another source told Archer there were hundreds

00:46:54.260 of victims of George Davey. Again, that's from our own conversation with Melissa. Guru Mag also

00:47:01.260 reports that a second woman on the trip alleges that George Davey sexually abused her, noting

00:47:07.040 she asked that the details of her account not be published at this time. There's another woman

00:47:12.780 named cassandra symbol a former worship leader and member of the ministry's leadership team

00:47:17.860 she was recently on a youtube channel ruslan kd that she and she said that she had raised

00:47:25.120 concerns with crick in 2018 after this unnamed victim told her that george davie had sexually

00:47:30.820 assaulted her so apparently the woman at the beginning whose name we do believe we know but

00:47:36.840 can't share at this point has gone to multiple people sharing the same story. Um, on Ruslan's

00:47:43.280 show, Cassandra also confirmed that she had seen screenshots of door Davey admitting to this abuse

00:47:49.540 in texts and that these would likely be released soon. So as of this recording, those have not been

00:47:55.420 released, but when they are, of course, um, we'll talk about it now. What about Crick? Did she know

00:48:01.480 any of this? Was she somehow in the dark that on the very trip that she went on with her friends

00:48:07.560 to Tanzania in 2018, that he was having these kinds of conversations with the people that she

00:48:14.360 was close to, that she was, that he was allegedly molesting the people, the women that she was

00:48:21.120 closest to. We'll talk about that a little bit more in just a second. Let me pause. Let me tell

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00:49:26.720 confidence, with clarity. Joinadf.com slash Allie. Cassandra Symbol, who talked to Ruslan,

00:49:39.240 also talked to Guru Mag. And when she did, she said that she brought these allegations to

00:49:44.680 Catherine Crick. All of these people saying, okay, George Davey, your spiritual mentor,

00:49:49.020 this is how he's behaving toward women and according to symbol she reacted defensively

00:49:53.880 rejecting the accusation calling the woman a liar symbol also had another story that uh she said that

00:50:00.300 she had helped a church member this is the church advanced anointing that was crick's church that

00:50:06.940 started back in 2000 um 2017 in la and so later she helped a church member um get out of

00:50:18.640 Crick's apartment. She was Crick's roommate at the time, this woman, and Symbol came and helped

00:50:24.180 her gather her belongings and move out. And then Symbol alleges that Crick and another ministry

00:50:30.440 leader actually positioned themselves in the doorway and tried to stop these two women from

00:50:35.420 leaving. While accusing them of being influenced by Satan and attempting to destroy the church,

00:50:40.320 Symbol said that she and the other women ultimately pushed past the two leaders,

00:50:43.800 left the home. And then in 2018, Archer and other women, um, the other women who were involved

00:50:52.720 in that trip had seen this misconduct. They brought George Avey's conduct to the attention

00:50:58.220 of Jantal Marshall. This is another woman who was on that fateful 2018 Tanzania trip.

00:51:05.240 And initially, according to text messages that were given to guru Mag, Jantal was distraught.

00:51:11.800 She responded, saying, no, I'm devastated. I don't know what to do or think. I'm so heartbroken

00:51:17.120 and confused. Also, according to Archer, Crick and another ministry leader urged Jantal, once

00:51:24.480 Jantal had apparently brought the concerns to them, urged her and others to just dismiss the

00:51:30.720 allegations, just ignore them. Archer said that Crick characterized the unnamed woman who accused

00:51:36.400 Jordavie of sexual abuse as a liar. According to the FFF5F churches, social media, Jean Tall,

00:51:46.420 the woman who, you know, went on that Tanzania trip was initially devastated by it, but didn't

00:51:51.780 really do anything. She still works for Catherine Crick. Apparently, if you look at her Instagram

00:51:55.780 bio, it says surrendered and living completely for Jesus forever planted at 5F church. Apostle

00:52:01.460 Catherine Crick is my spiritual mentor. Also, let me just say another strange, strange thing

00:52:06.160 about this is that all the comments that I will get on this video that I will get on Instagram,

00:52:12.240 um, if you go to their bio, they all say the same thing. They all say the same thing. And also,

00:52:18.060 I think we said that she is still working at 5F Church. Um, oh yeah, that's the website. The

00:52:24.240 website says that she is a worship leader at 5F Church, but her Instagram bio doesn't say this,

00:52:29.200 but all their Instagram bios say almost exactly the same thing. Like I've been a part of churches

00:52:35.200 my entire life, loved my churches, loved my pastors. Never have I, or any of my fellow church

00:52:40.540 members, like all had the same bio with the same tags of our church and our pastor. Maybe if you

00:52:47.540 work there, maybe that's just information that you want people to know, but the uniformity

00:52:51.920 in messaging and pushback and defensive Catherine Crick is strange. It's just strange. Now you might

00:52:59.500 remember also the video that we played last time. I think we also played it on social media

00:53:03.540 when, and maybe we'll just play the voiceover now. So you can remember what we're talking about

00:53:08.740 where you have Catherine Crick sitting on a stage and she's sitting there on a chair and people are

00:53:14.680 literally bringing her like sacrifices, bringing, I mean, their, their gift sacrifices, their gifts

00:53:21.120 to her, wishing her happy birthday. John tall is the woman in the video calling Catherine Crick

00:53:25.700 mama and like in tears, expressing adoration for her. Um, and so this is someone who has

00:53:33.520 pledged fidelity over and over again, even allegedly after hearing of these, um, allegations

00:53:40.500 for years. Now, back in 2018, when all of this was bubbling up and these women were bringing

00:53:46.520 forth their allegations, five women left the church. And that was, it was a very small

00:53:53.140 congregation at the time. It was a small congregation. And of course, Catherine Crick

00:53:57.320 claims that because of the 2018 anointing of George Davey, that that's why her church has

00:54:03.240 grown into what it is after 2020, et cetera. So all of these allegations have come to light in

00:54:10.960 the past few weeks and George Davey is denying them. He actually posted on Facebook just last

00:54:17.980 week, August 12th, denying any wrongdoing. He blamed the inappropriate nature of his interactions

00:54:24.080 on a language barrier uh he said there was never any inappropriate sexual or an improper intention

00:54:30.600 behind my words or actions what may be understood differently within american culture was for my

00:54:37.760 culture and linguistic understanding direct communication just concerning the specific

00:54:41.740 matter for which prayer had been requested in this particular situation the person was seeking

00:54:47.660 prayer and deliverance concerning what was understood within our faith is demonic oppression

00:54:51.580 affecting the proper function of her body. So remember the weird sex call that he had where

00:54:57.840 he was telling her to touch herself and all of that. That's what he's referring to. 0.81

00:55:03.460 I also deny the allegations made by the woman in South Africa. Her claims concerning me are false,

00:55:09.340 do not accurately represent. That's Ansi Visser. And by the way, like we do know from pictures, 1.00

00:55:17.120 so there's already dishonesty. We do know from pictures that this is not just a woman from

00:55:22.980 South Africa, that Anne C. Visser and him were close. They had close relations with each other.

00:55:28.420 I also think it's interesting that in the sex call, which he addresses here, when he says,

00:55:34.920 oh no, this is a weird language barrier. I was trying to deliver her from demonic oppression

00:55:40.600 in different parts of her body. He doesn't deny that he did that. He's not denying that he told

00:55:45.580 Melissa Archer to touch different parts of her body. Like it's interesting. He could have just

00:55:50.400 said, no, what are you talking about? That never happened. The reason that he didn't is because it

00:55:53.480 was recorded. Okay. So he's not going so far as to be like, oh no, that wasn't me. That wasn't my

00:55:59.540 voice. He knows the journalists have it and that they would press further and further until they

00:56:03.680 were able to completely verify that that's his voice. And then he is a liar and a weird sexual 1.00

00:56:09.720 abuser and a manipulator. And so he is just saying, yeah, that happened. But me telling her 1.00

00:56:15.480 to masturbate on the phone while I pray over her is just part of my faith. So I want you to know 0.99

00:56:19.680 that. Okay. So he is admitting here that the accusations of making Melissa Archer touch her

00:56:26.760 body while he says, I spiritually tagged her as a lesbian and I saw her with other men and men

00:56:33.380 haven't entered you from behind all of that. He is not denying that. Okay. In this post deny another

00:56:39.560 things, not denying that, saying it was a language barrier. And even while he is all but admitting

00:56:45.700 that he did that, Catherine Crick posted in the comments, okay, this is just last week.

00:56:50.780 She says, I stand with him and always will because he is a true prophet and is pure through and

00:56:55.580 through. His purity has been an example for me and God has used him greatly to make me more pure

00:57:02.140 and humble. Okay. The sex call guy, you just said that it came down to a language barrier. And oh,

00:57:10.160 yeah, that's how I deliver people. It just makes me wonder about their interactions. Catherine

00:57:14.240 Crick and Jordan. It just makes me wonder about that, that she would see him say, yeah, that's

00:57:19.400 part of the deliverance and say, basically that's normal. And he's pure that this is pure. She says,

00:57:25.960 I'm so grateful for him. I count it an immense privilege to stand with him, to honor him,

00:57:29.560 to thank God for the gift that he is to my life and to the body of Christ.

00:57:34.420 So this is not the first time she has come out to defend him after these allegations. She has

00:57:38.900 had a continued refusal to disavow Jordavi, especially since she is still bringing women

00:57:44.960 to him from 5F Church to Tanzania for his advanced anointing events. And here they are

00:57:52.820 in a recent video, Sop 5. And because of this, you will touch lives of people.

00:57:59.560 I want to anoint both of you as pastors of 5F Church and that this anointing will go

00:58:10.700 with you and touch you in Jesus' name.

00:58:17.460 Okay.

00:58:18.280 Weird, weird, weird, weird, weird.

00:58:20.820 Again, no biblical precedent for that.

00:58:23.100 Like, what is that?

00:58:23.860 Is it Brandy? 1.00

00:58:24.520 We don't know what that is that he's pointing on these women's heads and why are they fainting 0.98

00:58:28.740 backwards after getting anointed with oil again no biblical precedent um for something like that

00:58:35.960 um the guru article argues unequivocally that crick knew about all of these allegations um

00:58:46.220 and that these women were her close friends and we've also heard those stories and she continues

00:58:53.660 to describe George Davy like this, thought six.

00:58:57.420 He doesn't just heal and deliver people

00:58:59.200 straight from heaven usually,

00:59:00.720 but he chooses to use vessels and not just any vessel.

00:59:03.420 I knew my spiritual father.

00:59:04.760 I never seen anyone so Christ-like in my life.

00:59:07.380 He was so humble.

00:59:08.740 And so it clicked to me in this moment,

00:59:11.000 like so few people are pure and humble.

00:59:16.820 And so God can't put his anointing in them.

00:59:19.940 But here is someone I've seen.

00:59:21.700 i've never seen someone so pure so humble so christ-like and so god can then put his anointing

00:59:29.000 in him okay roll tape please of george davie dressed like a 17th century king okay so this

00:59:38.200 is the humble and pure guy that god has chosen to give his anointing so humble so humble so pure

00:59:45.960 i'm sure he didn't he was like no i don't want the rope no the road the tassels are too much

00:59:50.820 the crown is too much no no okay okay fine fine i'll put on the robe this is the humble and the

01:00:01.000 pure guy and we know that she knows this we know that she knows this is exactly how he is we know

01:00:08.180 that at least from the testimonies of the people who have spoken about her that she seems to have

01:00:14.800 known these allegations rebuffed these allegations we know just from the facebook comment on his

01:00:20.800 facebook post where he's like yeah did the sex call thing it's fine that she knows what people

01:00:26.800 are accusing him of and she's still saying all good she said that she'll never disavow her

01:00:35.320 spiritual father and she said for people to say that that's satanic thought seven you know what

01:00:43.360 I say to that, to all those people who say that to me, who have said that to me in the

01:00:49.280 past and who will say it to me in the future, I say these familiar words that Jesus said

01:00:54.860 one time to a, to a Christian, get behind me, Satan.

01:01:03.440 Hallelujah. 0.97

01:01:05.600 Okay.

01:01:06.320 And just so you know, like this video that that is from is titled why I could never leave

01:01:11.520 my spiritual father.

01:01:12.700 okay so she might not be talking specifically about the sexual abuse allegations in that clip

01:01:17.900 but she's talking about people who have told her hey disavow this guy she's saying no that's

01:01:23.740 satanic um i think it's important for us to just kind of look briefly at the sexual grooming a

01:01:31.540 spiritual healing pattern that we see from george davie and then just close this out with a biblical

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01:02:40.940 I think it's important before we close this out to look at the pattern of grooming that

01:02:52.700 is allegedly, um, that is allegedly practiced by George Davey. And this is according to the

01:03:01.420 many conversations that we had with the women who claim to be victims of him. And it is this

01:03:08.440 grooming, convincing, manipulation, predation that is disguised as some kind of special,

01:03:16.640 holy, spiritual anointing. So this is one thing that Cassandra Symbol said to us when she was

01:03:23.760 speaking to our team. She said, um, one aspect that particularly stood out to me was the secrecy

01:03:30.940 surrounding certain gifts. Jor would give a woman money, jewelry, or another gift, and then ask

01:03:37.160 whether she had told one of the other women about it. Melissa Archer also reported that

01:03:42.640 George Davies sent her money and wanted her to keep it secret from other girls in the church.

01:03:49.680 That's something that she told our team. And just remember that. I want you to keep that in mind

01:03:54.600 because we've got more to talk about in the weeks to come. I want you to keep that in mind about

01:03:58.600 jewelry and keep that in mind about gifts and the secrecy that shrouds some of the gifts that he is

01:04:05.180 apparently giving to these women and how he uses that is kind of like metaphorically like golden

01:04:11.200 handcuffs to keep a woman quiet, keep a woman submissive and keep a woman as his foot soldier

01:04:16.440 in different parts of the world. Uh, once George Davy establishes relationships via gifts, via

01:04:24.160 secrecy, he would orchestrate circumstances, or he seems to still do this orchestrate circumstances

01:04:29.840 where women become increasingly dependent upon him.

01:04:33.660 Having women travel to him in Tanzania

01:04:35.480 was a very clear example of this.

01:04:38.900 Melissa told us that dependence was heightened

01:04:41.700 by a series of very suspicious incidents during the trip.

01:04:44.700 Okay, remember poor country in Africa.

01:04:46.360 There was a break-in at the home 0.85

01:04:47.660 where the women were staying.

01:04:49.300 And Archer came to believe that it was connected

01:04:51.120 to an attempt to take one of the women.

01:04:54.640 And George Davy was of course the one

01:04:56.780 to help them and save them.

01:04:59.080 and she doesn't know whether George Davey for sure. And his associates were responsible for

01:05:03.260 the break-in, but she believes that the circumstances were actually more dangerous

01:05:07.760 than she understood at the time saying to me and to many others I've shared this story with,

01:05:12.160 we do not believe at least two of us were supposed to make it back home. So there's a lot of detail

01:05:16.680 about that story that we don't know. Seems like a very traumatic experience. Um, it seemed that

01:05:23.560 this was a circumstance in which George Davey was able to then assert his authority, his

01:05:29.040 protectiveness, his provision, because George Davey was their host and also their spiritual

01:05:33.720 authority, the reason they were in Tanzania. And the more vulnerable they became during that trip,

01:05:39.520 the more power he held over them. So that vulnerability, making sure that they were in

01:05:45.560 a place, in a circumstance where women depended on him, depended on his connections, depended

01:05:50.800 on his authority. We also see that in how he brought Catherine Crick over. And basically,

01:05:56.720 it seems convinced her that in order for you to have impact, you need me. And in her mind,

01:06:02.560 this was likely confirmed and verified when she went from Advanced Anointing Church, which only

01:06:06.720 had a few members, to after 2020, having apparently hundreds and even sometimes thousands of people

01:06:13.700 come to her church. And so she likely also is in this cycle of dependency on him. Now that does

01:06:23.900 not remove her liability here. If she knows what is going on and is not doing anything about it,

01:06:30.460 I'm not trying to say that she is so much of a victim that she doesn't have any power here,

01:06:34.620 but it does seem like this pattern has played itself out. This pattern of grooming has played

01:06:40.480 itself out in her life as well. Now, we also notice another strategy within this, making them 0.95

01:06:48.940 vulnerable, making them dependent is asking increasingly personal questions, particularly

01:06:55.180 about dating and relationships and sexual history. Remember that whole sexual call that we've talked

01:07:00.340 about with Melissa Archer now multiple times is that he seems to intertwine someone's spiritual

01:07:08.080 health with their sexual vulnerability with him, apparently verbally and physically as well.

01:07:15.540 And again, when you have it in your mind that someone has spiritual authority over you and

01:07:20.120 that you will be trapped by demons unless you have this person's blessing, then yeah,

01:07:25.720 you might be manipulated into going along with what they say, even sexually, even as

01:07:33.440 disturbing as this.

01:07:34.740 And so it is making his victim seem vulnerable, seem dependent, seem spiritually needy of him.

01:07:43.140 And then he uses that neediness to then entice them into these kinds of sexual relationships.

01:07:50.180 This is spiritual, mental, emotional, and sexual predation.

01:07:56.360 So what do we make of this from a biblical perspective?

01:08:00.640 obviously this is not someone from these allegations um unlike what katherine crick

01:08:07.620 says that is pure and holy a pastor is supposed to be the shepherd of his flock he's supposed

01:08:13.180 to protect his congregation from wolves from false teachers from those who would prey upon

01:08:18.980 their weakness we read about false teachers that go door to door praying upon weak women

01:08:25.020 and they are trying to satisfy their itching ears. That is what is going on here. He is 0.99

01:08:31.400 preying upon, it seems to me, weak women. And this is the kind of person that the body of Christ 0.99

01:08:37.980 needs to be protected from, the kind of person that needs to be exposed, not the kind of person

01:08:43.580 that should be dependent upon, dependent upon rather. We are not supposed to cover up immorality

01:08:52.820 in the church. Anyone who says it's division to point out these things that you're trying to

01:08:58.340 hinder the body of Christ. No, no, no. This is about protection. Ephesians 5, 11 through 13

01:09:03.500 says, take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them for it is

01:09:08.700 shameful to even to speak even of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed

01:09:14.000 by the light, it becomes visible. That's what we want here. First Timothy 5, 19 through 20,

01:09:21.000 do not admit a charge against an elder, except in the evidence of two or three witnesses as for

01:09:25.720 those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in

01:09:31.020 fear. Well, as far as we know, Crick was brought multiple witness accounts and testimonies of

01:09:36.580 people that she at one point believed and loved and was friends with. Um, and she has apparently

01:09:44.800 rejected those Jesus again, specifically warns against false prophets and those who prey upon

01:09:50.200 the flock. Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous

01:09:54.500 wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs

01:09:59.220 from thistles? So every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit.

01:10:05.120 Jude 1, 4 also warns us of this. For certain people have crept in unnoticed, who long ago

01:10:11.460 were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people who pervert the grace of our God into

01:10:15.760 sensuality and deny our master and Lord Jesus Christ. Here's my conclusion here, is that we

01:10:23.800 need to pray for those who have been prayed upon. We need to pray for those who have accused him,

01:10:28.980 pray for those who have brought their testimonies forth, and again, pray for actual humility

01:10:33.300 of George Davy. Like I can say unequivocally, I don't need any of these testimonials to see that

01:10:39.300 this is not a humble guy. This is not a guy who is exemplifying Christ-likeness. We can see this

01:10:45.080 uh, by how he represents himself and how he operates. We should pray for him to actually

01:10:50.600 know Christ, not as a means to an end of wealth and power, but as his savior from his sin that

01:10:56.740 he needs and pray for those who have been just burned by false teaching and burned by this

01:11:04.320 betrayal that they would not turn from Christ, but would that Christ would show them that,

01:11:09.680 Hey, everything that you're looking for that you were looking for there and didn't find like you can find

01:11:15.860 In me

01:11:16.920 Don't allow false teachers push you away from the actual truth, which is represented in christ himself

01:11:23.060 Our father is never going to betray us. He's never going to manipulate us

01:11:27.000 He is never going to turn his back on us. He's never going to use us and abuse us

01:11:31.640 That is the faithfulness of god that you can rely on go to the word of god

01:11:36.500 go to a Bible teaching church, not a church that is just saying a bunch of nonsense that sounds

01:11:41.900 good, not a church whose pastor is intent on garnering as much fame and power and wealth

01:11:49.320 as possible, but one who simply explains to you and expounds upon the word of God as faithfully

01:11:55.120 and as carefully and as humbly as he possibly can, who in his sermons is always pointing to

01:11:59.940 the gospel, always pointing to the goodness and the glory and the beauty of God and not himself,

01:12:05.040 who will never present himself to you as your sole spiritual authority or as an infallible source of

01:12:10.840 wisdom and healing and deliverance, but continually points to Christ, continually views himself,

01:12:15.960 presents himself as a vessel of the truth, and is humbled by this responsibility to steward and

01:12:22.160 protect and shepherd this flock of the local church. That's what you're looking for. This is

01:12:28.700 not. And so I pray for the repentance of Catherine Crick. I pray for the protection of everyone who

01:12:35.240 is exposing this because there needs to be healing. There needs to be accountability.

01:12:40.240 There needs to be a true reformation that is built upon the word of God and a love for God

01:12:45.360 in his glory. All right. That's all we got time for today. We will be back here on Wednesday.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 17, 2026

Ep 1385 ｜ 'He's a Warlock：' Kathryn Krick’s Spiritual Father’s Dark Secrets

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