Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1400 ｜ Ex-Psychic： Taylor Swift is on a Mission to Normalize Witchcraft ｜ Jenn Nizza

00:00:00.000 Every time I gave a reading, I was inviting more and more demons into my life and they started to

00:00:06.420 manifest truer to their evil nature. They never left me alone. I got to a point of such severe

00:00:13.860 demonic oppression that I was on the brink of destruction. I did not know Jesus. God in his

00:00:21.180 grace and mercy started to draw me to himself really by calling on the name of Jesus Christ.

00:00:27.780 in the second of near destruction.

00:00:30.520 It shocked me.

00:00:31.520 It completely shocked me.

00:00:44.340 Jen, thanks so much for joining us again.

00:00:47.180 The first time you came on, it's been a couple of years now.

00:00:50.700 Your testimony, I mean, it spread like wildfire

00:00:55.280 because you are such a talented, God-given talent, but a talented messenger of your testimony

00:01:04.220 and the truth about spiritual deception. And I'm so glad that you've written this book. It's

00:01:09.000 called Darkness in Disguise, A Biblical Warning About Spiritual Deception in Our Culture.

00:01:14.280 First, before we get into the contents of your book, I want to back up for people who might not

00:01:18.380 remember or might not know a little bit about your story. You were just a child when you were

00:01:23.480 exposed to things like witchcraft and necromancy. Can you talk about that a little bit more?

00:01:28.720 Yeah, absolutely. And I just want to thank you for having me on, Allie. I so appreciate that.

00:01:33.760 When I was a child, I was in a home with my mom and dad and sister, and we talked about

00:01:42.820 ghosts and we talked about paranormal activity in my home. My great aunt was a psychic. And,

00:01:50.580 you know, Ali, reflecting through the years that I've been in ministry, I realized that there were

00:01:55.400 many doors open for me. I was watching a lot of the witchy movies, cartoons. They were loaded even

00:02:03.480 back then, specifically Disney. So doors were open for me. And I had no spiritual discernment,

00:02:13.240 which is why I argue that children are extremely susceptible to the spiritual dangers that are out

00:02:22.900 there. I couldn't have a developed discernment. So I was afflicted by premonitions. And that was

00:02:32.200 right before I ended up having a tarot card reading, which was the gateway for me that led

00:02:37.180 me down a rabbit hole of destruction, led me right into divination for years of my life.

00:02:43.240 And how old were you when you had your first tarot card reading?

00:02:47.640 Yeah, I was 13 years old and things were very different in 1990, Allie. Things were different

00:02:54.580 then. There was no TikTok, no Wichita, no Google, no Instagram. We didn't have those things. We had

00:03:03.080 maybe some psychic commercials, but this was a very intriguing experience for me, a very,

00:03:09.660 intriguing experience for me. And especially because the stage was already set. I think about

00:03:16.560 it that, you know, I was a very vulnerable young lady dealing with issues that many teenage girls

00:03:23.080 deal with today. Self-esteem issues, curiosities, you know, and insecurities. And that's the

00:03:33.300 vulnerability that the enemy preys on. So without knowing what a tarot card reading really was,

00:03:40.200 I just knew that it might offer me some answers, something supernatural. And I was super excited

00:03:48.140 about it. And it was, it delivered. Let me tell you, delivered something.

00:03:54.700 Yeah. Yeah. You know, you mentioned, I want to go back to one thing that you mentioned that

00:03:59.560 growing up watching witches on TV and movies, which is considered harmless. Of course,

00:04:06.760 I remember when I was little watching things like Hocus Pocus on Disney channel, Disney,

00:04:11.620 when I was little nineties, early two thousands had a lot of paranormal type shows that you could

00:04:18.680 watch. And then outside of Disney, there's like goosebumps. Are you afraid of the dark? And I

00:04:23.080 wasn't allowed really to watch these things, but you know how it goes. Sometimes you sneak behind

00:04:28.120 your parents back or maybe you watch a scene and you regret it and you are scared of it and honestly

00:04:33.400 I didn't really think that much of it certainly not from a theological perspective but now when

00:04:39.060 we look at what Disney is putting forward and other outlets and other networks like there's this

00:04:46.000 a movie called Hexed and the way that I think this kind of movie is different than even the

00:04:52.580 witchy type movies that we might have watched growing up is that it's presenting witchcraft

00:04:57.820 and being witch, not as a bad thing, not as like the evil witch from Snow White, but actually

00:05:03.800 possibly as a good thing, as a neutral thing, or even as a superpower. So I wonder what you think

00:05:09.420 about that. To me, that seems even more dangerous than watching these kind of ugly, bad witches that 0.98

00:05:16.960 we were used to when we were kids. You really hit the nail on the head with that one, Ali. 0.98

00:05:22.640 And I am very outspoken about Hex, perhaps not as much about as as I am about Taylor Swift.

00:05:28.140 But I've been making videos warning people about Hex.

00:05:31.800 You have an excellent point that, you know, Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

00:05:37.000 And I always say that when somebody pictures a witch, they think of this dark, scary figure, kind of like you mentioned in the old Disney movies.

00:05:45.880 They had that horrific, you know, representation.

00:05:50.820 But then you take people that were like me. I mean, I would do a reading wearing this outfit sitting across from you. You take Teresa Caputo, the Long Island medium. She looks, you know, nice and innocent.

00:06:07.460 She's an interesting person, too.

00:06:09.500 I met her years ago, of course.

00:06:11.900 But now we take Hexed and we present witchcraft this way, almost like I think of Wicked as 0.81

00:06:18.040 well with white witchcraft. 0.92

00:06:19.920 And it makes it very alluring. 0.57

00:06:22.120 And in the movie Hexed, we meet Charlie, who is a teenage girl who is kind of a misfit

00:06:28.500 and dealing with these problems.

00:06:30.600 And then here's this offer of witchcraft.

00:06:33.660 You know, here's a power for you.

00:06:35.200 Here's a way that maybe you can control your circumstances, which it is what it's all about.

00:06:41.960 But Disney will stop at nothing, in my opinion, to constantly glorify, glamorize the demonic

00:06:48.640 and witchcraft.

00:06:49.360 They just change it up a little bit.

00:06:52.240 You said something really interesting right there.

00:06:54.560 You said that's what it's all about.

00:06:57.520 You're talking about witchcraft is really about wanting to control.

00:07:01.560 Can you unpack that a little bit?

00:07:03.900 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:05.200 So what Satan offers us in witchcraft is if you say a spell, if you visualize these, you

00:07:13.040 know, he has many different tools of divination through witchcraft, psychics, when we look

00:07:17.800 at Deuteronomy 18, 10 to 12, we'll see those practices there.

00:07:21.260 Of course, tarot cards, crystals, that you can control your own circumstances, that you

00:07:26.820 can have power to change things and create things in your life.

00:07:32.460 Who doesn't want that?

00:07:34.420 Who doesn't want that?

00:07:35.860 But that is always what it's going to be about.

00:07:38.880 You know, I say, Ali, Satan wanted to be God, and he wants you to think that you can be

00:07:45.280 God too.

00:07:46.520 And this is so, so convincing.

00:07:49.580 He makes it convincing, especially like the example you just gave through Hex.

00:07:54.200 If I think it's okay, seemingly innocent, maybe good for me, I'm not going to question

00:08:01.080 it.

00:08:01.520 I'm not going to see it as evil.

00:08:03.200 I'm going to see it as a solution. Yeah. And you mentioned that when you were a teenager,

00:08:10.640 you felt as a lot of teenage girls do, there's a time that everyone feels awkward. Everyone feels

00:08:16.840 left out. Everyone wants to be understood and seen and known and to feel like they have control of

00:08:22.120 their circumstances. So even without a lot of the social media propaganda that we have today,

00:08:27.660 you found through witchcraft, through tarot card reading, the thing that you felt like you were

00:08:33.340 looking for. Talk more about that. Yeah, a hundred percent, because I was given what I believed was

00:08:41.100 a gift. And what this gift did, which of course it's not a gift, was made me special. It made me

00:08:48.680 different. And I truly wanted to help people, Allie. I truly wanted to help people, especially

00:08:57.040 the grieving people, connect with who I believed were deceased people when I was a psychic medium

00:09:02.480 doing readings that way. The enemy preyed on my compassion, but rose me up. He rose me up.

00:09:09.340 I didn't have to feel so awkward anymore. I was a psychic medium. People were coming to me.

00:09:16.520 And I didn't walk around cocky by any means, but it is. It is and it isn't. Do you know what I

00:09:23.200 mean? You're not presenting it that way in that, oh, look at me, look at me. But that's the feeling

00:09:29.140 that you have inside. And I did have that feeling inside. And it's very interesting because it's

00:09:35.320 destructive. Pride is destructive to start. But those people that were coming to me, it became

00:09:41.980 that they just wanted to be around me because I was a psychic medium. What is she going to tell

00:09:47.520 me? Am I going to get a reading? Am I going to get a random reading? Let's do lunches. Let's do

00:09:52.560 dinners. And then when I got together with some of the top mediums on Long Island, I felt seen

00:09:59.600 and known and special. And that, oh boy, that was extremely deceiving and extremely

00:10:10.860 destructive in my life. But there it was, this little counterfeit gift.

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00:11:32.760 So you grew up feeling like you were special, even before this tarot card reading,

00:11:37.200 you said that you had premonitions, that you kind of felt like maybe I do have some kind of

00:11:42.840 connection to the supernatural and the tarot card reading. What exactly did that confirm for you in

00:11:48.400 your mind? Well, what the tarot card reading confirmed for me is that there is something

00:11:55.580 higher. There is some sort of source of hidden knowledge and it doesn't have to be bad. It

00:12:03.880 wasn't bad the woman was really nice uh the what i heard in the reading was was okay so maybe this

00:12:11.980 is just this you know powerful source of wisdom uh answers like i just mentioned the solution right

00:12:23.020 i always say you know the devil doesn't appear as that red horn red horned cartoonification

00:12:30.760 forgive me, cartoonification, he will appear as your dream come true, as a healing, as this

00:12:39.100 counterfeit joy, what have you. So the confirmation for me, again, was that the supernatural is real,

00:12:46.760 there is a source of power, and I can tap into it too, just like this lady did.

00:12:53.920 And did you have moments following that when you started doing your own tarot card readings,

00:12:58.820 and you started doing your own, I don't know if you ever did palm readings or, but readings of

00:13:04.400 people, did you have some confirmations there where something that you predicted or some insight that

00:13:12.300 you gave to someone, it really came true? Uh, I would say that was a majority of my readings,

00:13:20.840 Ellie. I used tarot cards. I used angel cards. I did chakra balancing and I did psychic mediumship

00:13:27.420 readings. And I will share with you, I'll never forget this. And I've not shared this with

00:13:30.700 anybody, actually. I did a reading for a couple. And in that reading, you know, the demons masquerading

00:13:39.000 as their departed loved ones, told me that they were going to get pregnant, and told me around

00:13:45.980 when they were going to get pregnant. Now, these were people dealing with fertility issues.

00:13:50.900 Time passes by, I get a phone call, well, it's them, they want to come back for a reading,

00:13:56.060 because all of that information was correct in the reading.

00:14:01.340 And after all, even John Edward couldn't tell them that.

00:14:04.640 So I was a great medium and they wanted to come back to hear more.

00:14:10.260 And there's a reason why demons make these excellent guesses.

00:14:14.640 They don't know the future, but they've been observing for ages.

00:14:19.220 And those demons most definitely knew that those people were talking to the doctors,

00:14:25.600 hearing the conversations, knowing the times, knowing the schedules, and have done this for

00:14:31.280 ages. Not a difficult prediction to make on behalf of demons who are intelligent and powerful

00:14:38.640 creatures. It was not any knowledge of my own, of course, but yeah, a lot of accuracy in the

00:14:44.760 readings. And most of that accuracy would be in the past, of course, because demons don't know.

00:14:50.680 But you know, Ali, that's the hook. And then the predictions also can come true by way of

00:14:59.340 planting these seeds in the mind of the person to fulfill, self-fulfill the counterfeit prophecy.

00:15:09.480 Wow. And tell me, I want to hear more about demons, because I think that's something that

00:15:15.220 just a lot of people don't understand, how demons think, how demons work, and how demons work

00:15:19.060 through witchcraft. But I want to hear how you came to that revelation. And if you got out of

00:15:25.400 this very lucrative career, this career that made you feel seen and known and famous and powerful,

00:15:30.580 what hit you that, wow, I cannot keep doing this.

00:15:36.040 After 25 years of dealing with the demonic alley, every time I got a reading, every time I gave a

00:15:42.700 reading, I was inviting more and more demons into my life. And they started to manifest

00:15:49.820 truer to their evil nature. They never left me alone. I would call it chatter. They were always

00:15:56.640 chattering in my ear. And what happened was, I got to a point of such severe demonic oppression,

00:16:04.020 I mean, severe demonic oppression, that I was on the brink of destruction. And trust me,

00:16:10.060 and I was 36 years old, the end of my 36th year, and I did not contemplate anything. I did not

00:16:16.500 know Jesus. I did not think who can help me, who can rescue me. God in his grace and mercy

00:16:24.120 drew me to, started to draw me to himself really by calling on the name of Jesus Christ in the

00:16:32.460 second of near destruction. And it shocked me. It completely shocked me. But you know,

00:16:39.160 I didn't know the gospel. I didn't know I was a sinner that needed to be saved. I didn't know

00:16:43.760 that Jesus died on the cross for my sins. I didn't know that by placing my faith and trust in him,

00:16:50.000 I could be truly delivered out of my bondage of sin and into the light and kingdom of Christ Jesus.

00:16:55.820 So I became very spiritually vulnerable because I truly didn't understand why didn't I call upon

00:17:01.260 my spirit guide or my deceased grandmother. So that was a 10 month journey that resulted in

00:17:09.160 becoming born again after hearing and believing the gospel that was preached to me in a church

00:17:14.980 one day later on at the age of 37. Wow. And so before that, you were kind of doing okay. I mean,

00:17:23.460 you were doing well. There were happy moments. You were calling upon your spirit guide. You were

00:17:28.040 calling upon your ancestors, you felt like they were uniquely guiding you and blessing you.

00:17:32.180 You were happy. What did that oppression kind of suddenly look like? You must have been very

00:17:38.320 thrown off and confused. Oh, 3 million percent. I mean, when the oppression started, it came in the

00:17:46.800 way of anxieties, depression, complete demonic annoyance, I will say, by them constantly talking

00:17:57.560 to me, you know, just just weighing on me all the time. And my relationships were I mean,

00:18:03.260 I manifested a relationship that was a complete toxic, utter disaster, completely toxic and

00:18:10.480 utter disaster. Yeah. And that's, you know, something that is still going on today, of

00:18:15.320 course, manifestation and the law of attraction. But I did that I made a vision board, and I

00:18:20.360 manifested this person. And so that was part of the oppression as well. You know, be careful,

00:18:28.240 not only what you ask for, but who you ask for, you just might get it. And that's exactly what

00:18:33.280 was happening to me. The more I was invoking demons, the more they were, you know, coming

00:18:38.340 upon me and so many things, abusive relationships, tumultuous relationships, and a lot of other sin

00:18:45.940 that came with following the devil, Allie, but I still thought I was a good guy. I thought I was

00:18:53.680 the good guy. I wasn't evil. I wasn't unholy. I was living in the dark. I was spiritually blind

00:19:01.060 and I was quickly heading towards the destruction. So when I started to see these, when I started to

00:19:07.980 see the demons manifest truer to their nature, I simply thought I wasn't doing enough on my end

00:19:15.240 that I needed to protect myself more with more tools of protection, false tools of protection,

00:19:23.520 smudging, crystals, imagining white light around myself. It was something that I believed I could

00:19:30.320 have control and authority over. And now, of course, I know that only Jesus has authority

00:19:36.480 over demons. They bow down to him alone. But I didn't know that then. And the New Age community

00:19:42.740 was pushing that out. And I believed every single thing the new age community told me because it was 0.99

00:19:49.640 an explanation for things. So I managed to not put the two together. When I saw the bad spirit

00:19:59.400 or the dark thing, I didn't put that together with, it had anything to do with what I was doing

00:20:04.720 as a psychic medium, because I was doing good and I had a gift and I needed to use it.

00:20:09.580 Right. Yeah. He says in things there that are so important that one, the demons started kind

00:20:16.260 of manifesting their true nature. And you had mentioned earlier, um, the biblical truth that

00:20:21.860 Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So thus far the demons had kind of, um, been trying

00:20:29.580 to demonstrate that they're on your team, that they're on your side. No, we want your happiness.

00:20:33.180 We want your success. We're helping you out. We're giving you insight. Of course you wouldn't

00:20:37.040 have called them demons. You would have thought of them as good spirits, as spiritual guides and

00:20:41.440 things like that. But then when they started pushing you in toxic directions, when you started

00:20:46.960 feeling like I can't go on anymore, I think I just want to end this. When you started having

00:20:50.880 bad relationships, all of these spirits that you probably thought were different spirits,

00:20:55.180 but you now realize are the same spirits. They're like, okay, let's get her to this place of

00:20:59.120 isolation and despair and destruction. So we can take her out forever. Of course, that's how that 1.00

00:21:04.060 spiritual battle and satan works and you found yourself in the midst of that calling out to

00:21:12.340 jesus this person this god that you had never before ascribed any kind of salvific power to

00:21:20.380 right yeah absolutely and you know i'm thinking while we're talking it reminds me of so much of

00:21:26.500 what we're seeing today you know i'm very passionate about addressing this in our culture

00:21:30.220 And I'm just thinking of the Ariana Grande's and, you know, the Jenna Ortega's and, you

00:21:36.260 know, and you actually, Perez Hilton, we are witnessing in real time the results of the

00:21:45.500 demonic servitude.

00:21:47.640 And so as you, as you put it in my own case, absolutely.

00:21:52.060 Here's a little something for you, but you see ultimately from Satan, but I'm going to 0.99

00:21:58.240 end up throwing you in the trash can. 1.00

00:22:00.220 You know, Satan has come to steal, kill, and destroy, and it will destroy you. 0.99

00:22:05.160 It's just a matter of time.

00:22:06.700 I wasn't on, you know, a camera.

00:22:09.600 I wasn't out there.

00:22:10.540 But we are witnessing that now.

00:22:12.580 We are seeing the destruction.

00:22:14.140 I had the eating disorder as well.

00:22:16.500 Little by little, what seems so great is going to blow up because it is demonic and it has

00:22:23.260 nothing to do with Jesus Christ.

00:22:25.320 It is so scary, honestly, Allie.

00:22:27.420 And I don't think that people need to be afraid.

00:22:29.560 The whole idea is that you just have to be aware and come to Christ because he is our protector.

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00:23:47.860 the gospel though. You started going to church, you heard the gospel, you were saved by the

00:23:53.140 gospel. And of course you are where you are now by the grace of God, sharing your testimony,

00:23:57.880 warning people about the dangers of witchcraft and necromancy and how we can see it in ways that

00:24:02.760 we're not really expecting. And I think people just don't realize one of these aspects is the

00:24:08.760 demonic activity, that it's not always plain. It's not always obviously causing strife, causing

00:24:15.140 depression, causing anxiety, causing addiction. Sometimes it's actually giving us what we want.

00:24:20.960 And yes, even giving insight and wisdom that makes us feel powerful, which makes sense when

00:24:27.460 you think about the garden of Eden, like eat this and you're going to have knowledge of the

00:24:31.920 difference between good and evil. You're going to be like God. If you do this, it's the same

00:24:35.840 kind of thing today. Talk a little bit more about your revelation and you're now growing

00:24:40.660 understanding of how demons operate, how you think they best deceive people?

00:24:46.520 Yeah, I think that they best deceive people by presenting as light as they masquerade as light,

00:24:53.900 they prey on the vulnerability. So they best deceive people by making it look acceptable,

00:25:01.540 by making it trendy, by making it glamorous. No, we didn't need social media, but social media has

00:25:08.000 done a great job at being used by the enemy to pollute the minds and souls of many, many people,

00:25:15.680 especially targeting children, because you know, Ali, it's so easy. Hey, just get a 12-month

00:25:21.460 forecast, an astrological forecast, because you've been thinking about this particular thing,

00:25:26.420 and you're wanting to know how it's going to pan out, or you're worried about something. I feel

00:25:31.180 that I feel that feelings often are what brings people to psychics, mediums, etc. And of course,

00:25:41.220 the promotion of white witchcraft, you know, it doesn't have to be a bad thing. It can be okay. So 0.99

00:25:47.400 through the music industry, through cinema, this is what's going on. I would argue that you can't

00:25:54.760 walk out into a store without encountering the occult of the new age. So just to stay on the

00:26:00.720 line of your question. Well, you're a teenage girl, you're in CVS, you're going to, you know,

00:26:05.580 buy some candy or I don't know what teen magazines or what have you. And there are those chakra

00:26:10.440 candles and they're so pretty. They're green and they're pink and they're pastel colors. And

00:26:15.700 they're offering you confidence. They're offering you peace. They're offering you joy. What are

00:26:21.300 teenage girls battling with? Well, how are they going to know that there's something wrong with

00:26:27.560 a chakra and a chakra candle. So the enemy is using his trickery by disguising it as light

00:26:34.640 and hiding it in plain sight. That's what he's doing. Yeah. I think that's absolutely true. I

00:26:42.340 was thinking about like when I was probably preteen, maybe even younger than that, we had

00:26:47.100 power beads and the power beads were meant to give you certain protections or certain moods

00:26:55.360 emotions or something like that. I even think about today with essential oils. I'm not saying

00:27:02.920 all essential oils are bad. I love the smell of eucalyptus and lavender. I think these are derived

00:27:08.020 from nature, which God made, but you'll see with some essential oils, how almost like a fruit of

00:27:14.580 the spirit is ascribed to it. Like this is going to give you joy. This is going to cleanse your

00:27:21.380 mind of any negative thought. This is going to make you a more positive person. And so even

00:27:27.600 things that in one context can be okay, can very quickly be manipulated into convincing you that

00:27:34.920 this thing can give you power. And that is so enticing. Oh yeah, that's absolutely enticing.

00:27:42.360 And it makes me think of the, uh, name it and claim it a little bit, uh, because there we take

00:27:49.060 some parallels between the new age and we bring it into the church. And so just like you were

00:27:54.760 stating, even if there are things that you want that are good, right? Or even if you think about

00:27:59.880 manifesting, speaking something into existence. Well, I'm not trying to put a curse on anybody.

00:28:06.900 I don't mean any harm. I want to do good things. I just want good things. I want to draw this thing

00:28:13.320 to myself. And so if I can visualize it, maybe it's health, maybe it's an answer to the health

00:28:20.060 issue you've been dealing with for many years. Maybe it's a new job, maybe you don't have one,

00:28:25.840 and you need to pay your bills, right? So there, there is nothing wrong with those things with

00:28:30.700 those desires, it's where you take them to. And success is not measured by whether something

00:28:37.620 works, right? Because it works. Manifesting works. And I'm sure even in the, you know,

00:28:44.300 the prosperity gospel, I'm sure there are going to be times that it works. You can't attribute

00:28:49.620 truth to that. Just because something works, just because something is successful, you've got

00:28:55.980 something that you wanted, doesn't mean it's not the counterfeit, doesn't mean that it's godly,

00:29:00.660 and doesn't mean that it's not, you know, that it's rooted in truth. So we need to go to the

00:29:04.940 Bible. We need to go to the Bible and test all spirits. That's what we need to do because 1.00

00:29:11.320 the line is so thin, Allie, even what you just mentioned with the essential oils, the line is

00:29:18.560 so thin, it can be so convincing. And when we think about the counterfeit that Satan has for

00:29:23.520 so many things, the word counterfeit means cheap imitation intended to deceive. That's how close

00:29:33.680 it can look. That's how close, and that's why I'm so concerned about children, because like I said,

00:29:40.100 they don't have the discernment that we have, and parents have been given a beautiful job

00:29:45.700 and responsibility by God to pray with them, pray for them, protect them, guard them, read the Bible

00:29:53.600 with them, and be aware, Allie, of what's going on in our culture. I know many Christians that

00:30:00.320 were like, hey, what's wrong with a Taylor Swift concert? What's wrong with Lady Gaga, you know,

00:30:07.100 going to the concert? And, you know, their friends are doing it or what have you. What's wrong with 0.73

00:30:11.400 those candles, right? Or getting a palm reading or what have you. It's just, we have to be aware

00:30:19.960 because it's so manipulative. The enemy is so manipulative and he's crafty.

00:30:26.100 there are people listening who have no clue what you're talking about when you make a connection

00:30:32.380 between taylor swift and palm reading they're like come on she's a pop star what point are you

00:30:37.680 trying to make well she's a pop star that's using her platform uh for the enemy she quite honestly 0.79

00:30:45.900 and that doesn't we pray for her and i will pray for her but she is a being used as a vessel of 0.97

00:30:50.500 destruction because she is promoting and glamorizing new age and occult ideologies and 1.00

00:30:58.000 practices like karma and especially numerology by the way she's obsessed with the number 13 0.88

00:31:04.220 and she makes decisions based on this number and she goes to this number for wisdom and she talks

00:31:11.440 about it openly this isn't some sort of you know she's not hiding out pretending to you know um

00:31:19.840 be so wonderful anymore and practicing this on the side. She appeared as somebody so innocent

00:31:26.500 and Christian-like in the beginning. And I really believe that's how the enemy does this,

00:31:30.720 because then you get your gathering, that you're gathering. Then you get your cult,

00:31:35.000 if you will, C-U-L-T. You get your platform. You get your followers, right? The Swifties came in. 1.00

00:31:42.840 And then the darkness starts to come out.

00:31:45.980 And that is to, of course, indoctrinate masses of people, masses of people.

00:31:53.900 So it is the same thing.

00:31:57.100 Numerology, karma, which, of course, is attached to a false religion, doctrine of demons. 0.75

00:32:04.680 All of this is the very same thing as a palm reading, a tool of divination and witchcraft. 0.64

00:32:10.200 It's all the same thing. 0.98

00:32:11.900 And you talked about in the first episode that we did together a couple of years ago,

00:32:15.840 this idea of like the invisible thread that she talks about, that's like a very new age

00:32:21.620 concept. Can you break that down a little bit again? I'd be happy to. I actually just pushed

00:32:26.480 out another video about that, Allie, because it's still going on and we're seeing that

00:32:30.840 double downed on TikTok. So the invisible string theory is the idea that there is an invisible

00:32:37.200 string around one of your fingers and an invisible string around another person's finger that is kind

00:32:46.060 of like your twin flame, the person you're meant to be with. And what happens is that you have met

00:32:52.340 each other at one point in time. Maybe we were at the grocery store, you know, 10 years ago,

00:32:59.980 and now life has gone on and we're married and, you know, to other people and whatever.

00:33:04.840 But now I meet up with you again in the park.

00:33:08.240 I say, oh, didn't I run into you like 10 years ago?

00:33:11.460 And wow, you're captivating.

00:33:13.660 Like, this is so interesting.

00:33:15.320 Maybe you're my invisible string, the person who I'm fated to be with.

00:33:20.960 You're really my person.

00:33:23.240 Now I need to go get a divorce and I need to be with you.

00:33:28.400 And this ties, like I said, very closely to the twin flame,

00:33:32.620 ties closely to the twin flame concept. And of course, it is a doctrine of demons, meaning a

00:33:39.120 teaching of demons and not the Holy Spirit. There is no such thing as an imaginary string around

00:33:45.060 anybody's finger. And who we marry is not and should not be determined on any sort of demonic

00:33:56.100 practice. Of course, it's destruction. And you can see that in the way of how it leads to adultery,

00:34:01.600 divorce, et cetera. And then people just, like I said, they doubled down on it. Social media

00:34:06.660 doubles down on it. Documentaries will then, you know, re-push it out, you know, maybe on Netflix

00:34:12.520 with the twin flame and what have you. But that's the idea of the invisible string in a nutshell.

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00:35:58.080 And it does just speak to kind of all new age ideas that there is a transcendent powerful force

00:36:03.880 like the new age doesn't deny that. There are spiritual forces. Obviously you believed that

00:36:09.040 for a very long time. They have the ability to orchestrate events in your life. They have the

00:36:14.120 ability to give you wisdom and insight, but they're not the thing that's different. Of course,

00:36:19.740 there's many things by nature that are different than, um, than, than, than God, but is that they

00:36:25.980 don't set rules for your life. They're not saying this is a standard of morality that you have to

00:36:30.720 reach. They're not saying this is the way of salvation. It's just the kind of universe

00:36:35.980 organizing things. If you do the right things, have the right crystals, have the right readings

00:36:40.280 and all of that, if you have the right energy, if you have good karma, organizing things in your

00:36:45.120 favor, you could see how that would be very comforting. If you're like, I don't like religion.

00:36:50.640 I don't want to be a Christian. I don't want to have to give things up. I just want to be able

00:36:55.360 to manifest what I want. Like you could see how that would be very enticing for someone who calls

00:37:01.260 themselves spiritual and not religious. It really is just about like the worship of the self and

00:37:08.220 the focus of the self and almost a spiritual justification for self-centeredness in so many

00:37:13.800 ways. Oh, 1 million percent. And it affirms sin, right? Because I can't help that I just did that

00:37:22.360 thing. I'm a Capricorn. So it's not my fault that I acted that way. I need to make this decision

00:37:29.460 to be with so-and-so because they match up with my love, language, energy, vibe, this, that,

00:37:37.520 any other thing. So it makes sense why I need to make that decision. Uh, you're never accountable

00:37:44.280 Allie for anything because you're your own authority. And if the universe is your authority,

00:37:49.920 which it's not to the new age, or please don't get me wrong. It, the idea is that the universe

00:37:54.940 will assist you in getting things you want. It's really all about you. You're your own authority

00:38:00.340 and no, you don't have to be accountable and love is love. And that's the affirmation of sin. And

00:38:05.360 what does the affirmation of sin really do, right? It just gets people to like you. People will like

00:38:10.280 you. People don't like to hear the truth of our Lord Jesus Christ because it pushes back on the

00:38:17.420 sin. Accountability before the Lord is so important, not justifying sin, but being accountable for it

00:38:24.100 and asking for forgiveness. And it's amazing because there's so much freedom in Christ in

00:38:28.040 that. But in the new age, what's good is bad and what's bad is good. It's backwards. It's upside

00:38:33.680 down land, really, you know, opposite land, whatever they call it. So it is appealing,

00:38:40.760 though, of course, because it comes back to the power and the control. And trust me, Ali,

00:38:45.840 there are people going through so many things in their life that they want to control. I mean,

00:38:50.180 for heaven's sakes, not to throw this one in there real quick. But you know, even with

00:38:53.660 in regards to things that are happening in the world, the Clancy case, right, we saw people

00:38:58.580 doing astrology charts, trying to figure things out because they have feelings about what's going

00:39:04.560 on. They want to see justice done. Also, they've been let down some conspiracy theories. So they

00:39:12.180 want to get to the heart of the matter. And they believe by going to these tools of divination,

00:39:17.040 getting some sort of instant gratification through demonic tools will give them that.

00:39:21.840 And of course, it doesn't. It can't provide that at all whatsoever. Anytime something big happens

00:39:28.000 in the news, I always say this, witches want to weigh in, but you don't necessarily have to be a

00:39:32.320 public witch. You may be in your own home and you may decide to pull a tarot card that day. And maybe

00:39:37.680 it's not even about what's going on in the macrocosm. Maybe it's what's going on in the

00:39:41.900 microcosm of your own life. And you're, you're trying to do the same thing and find out if things

00:39:47.860 are going to be okay. Will things be okay, et cetera. So again, it comes back to that idea of

00:39:53.400 control and power. I see that a lot with the manifesting and the vision board that you're

00:40:01.400 talking about. And you've already drawn the parallel between that. And then also the name

00:40:05.640 it and claim it. If like, if I sow the seed of faith, if I give enough money, if I pray the right

00:40:09.820 prayer, then God, he basically has to, he's like a genie in a bottle. This is the formula. He's

00:40:14.480 going to give me what I want. It's the same thing with manifesting, but it's interesting what you've

00:40:19.220 said a couple of times, manifesting can work. Vision boards can work. And so can you talk about

00:40:26.600 how does Satan work through those things to actually give someone the desires of their heart?

00:40:33.180 Yeah, it's his usual trickery. So by that, I mean, like I made this vision board. I was very

00:40:38.900 specific with it. I was very specific with my manifesting list. You have to be very specific

00:40:43.900 with it. And you have to visualize it, stay positive, believe it. Here's what happens.

00:40:49.720 If something comes along that matches up so closely, so closely, you will believe it was

00:40:58.660 because of your manifesting, which now gives the practice credibility. So let's say I put,

00:41:05.020 you know, 10 things on my vision board and I come across, okay, the apartment in Miami or whatever,

00:41:11.800 right? And five or six things about this particular apartment match up. Not everything,

00:41:18.720 but I don't need everything because I can justify the things that don't match up.

00:41:22.560 I just need something to resonate, to give it that credibility. And that's exactly how it is

00:41:28.560 with readings. The readings, I often give this analogy, a tarot card reading, you're a single

00:41:34.060 person. The tarot card reader tells you that you're going to meet, you know, the King of

00:41:40.280 pentacles, brown hair, brown eyes. He's a, he's a earth sign, blah, blah, blah. Cause they will

00:41:44.900 overlap. Of course, the tools of divination, the ideas, and his name starts with the letter M.

00:41:50.600 Okay. Now you're out in the dating pool. Well, you're going to reject David. You're going to

00:41:57.960 reject David. And especially if David has blonde hair and blue eyes, he doesn't match up. So you're

00:42:03.860 really again self-fulfilling a counterfeit prophecy when you manifest the universe isn't

00:42:10.960 going to tend to your needs isn't going to be able to give you anything this is idolatry your own

00:42:16.680 imagination cannot okay but you're invoking demons because now you've stepped into divination you've

00:42:24.400 gone outside of god's will and boundaries you've taken the desires of your heart and you've put

00:42:29.300 them out there to sources that are not God, to creation, which we know in Romans 1, we see that

00:42:35.600 that we, you know, we've traded in people trade in creation for the creator, the creator for his

00:42:41.720 creation, and gone and made idols out of them. So that's exactly when you do those practices,

00:42:47.460 you're invoking demons, and demons are powerful, and they can manipulate and plant those seeds in

00:42:53.800 your mind that you actually believe and give that credibility to the demonic tool, you know,

00:42:59.900 thereby thinking it's, you know, so does it work? Yes, it works. But it is not because, you know,

00:43:09.480 demons know the future, the universe did anything for you. It's because you most likely assisted

00:43:13.660 the devil and followed the seeds that he planted in your mind. And by the way, Satan, I think you 0.87

00:43:21.140 tell me if I'm wrong, it doesn't seem to me like he really cares about whether or not you say it

00:43:26.860 was Satan who gave me these things, which most people won't do, or it was me who gave me these

00:43:32.420 things. I gave me these things. I'm so strong. I'm so smart. I'm so powerful. I'm so in tune

00:43:37.400 with what my future should be that I was able to manifest these things. I don't think Satan cares

00:43:42.800 whether or not he gets the credit. He just wants the soul. He just wants the attention and the

00:43:48.260 glory away from the God, the giver of good gifts, he is perfectly fine with someone thinking they

00:43:53.240 worship the God of self. It's basically the same thing. Again, going back to the garden,

00:43:59.320 he convinced Eve that she was going to be like God, convincing her that she will become the

00:44:04.820 God of self. She will have all this wisdom and power. So some people might be hearing this and

00:44:09.260 be like, what? It's innocent. I would never pray to Satan. I would never say that Satan gave me

00:44:15.080 these things. This is just me. It's personal. Satan does not care whether or not he gets the

00:44:22.140 credit or not. If you're worshiping yourself, he's just as happy. Oh, absolutely. And I think

00:44:28.200 about the counterfeit again, the counterfeit evangelism, because now then you go out, Allie,

00:44:32.780 right? You got this thing and it looks good and you don't mean any harm. And this is just your

00:44:37.860 personal thing. And it's just about me. And now you're telling people about it and you're going

00:44:42.060 out there. Or maybe you're making a TikTok video about it. See, I did the vision board. I manifested

00:44:47.000 and look what happened. And it's wonderful. And it has no bad effects on anybody. It's just that.

00:44:52.520 So you're right. He doesn't need to get the credit for it. He just needs you to do his dirty work.

00:44:57.000 And he just needs you to believe in yourself. Anything that distracts you from the truth,

00:45:03.760 anything that gets you away from Jesus Christ, you said it perfectly. He just wants your soul.

00:45:07.680 you know i see this so much with being a mom of kids and especially my oldest just

00:45:14.500 getting older and starting to really notice things and you know wanting to be entertained

00:45:20.240 by different songs people and i just pay such close attention to the lyrics and my parents did

00:45:25.480 too growing up but that was more like we're not going to let you listen to sexual stuff cussing

00:45:31.480 and all of that which i'm very glad for those parameters but today i'm listening to music

00:45:36.560 that doesn't have any of that. It's not explicit, but it's all about like Barbie, for example,

00:45:43.380 we just like, we're like, we can't do anything, no shows, no music Barbie, because every single

00:45:49.220 song is about loving yourself and believing in yourself. You have the power. And if you are just

00:45:55.540 more yourself and you live out your authentic expressions, then you'll have all the power that

00:46:00.460 you need to accomplish anything that you want in life. And yeah, that's not the same thing as

00:46:05.940 it's not as explicit as saying something horrible and vulgar, but it is still giving a message to

00:46:14.520 young, vulnerable girls that instinctively and in our flesh, we want to hear that we're perfect the

00:46:21.220 way we are. And all we need to do is to think about ourselves more. And then we can accomplish

00:46:25.780 anything. We can be anything we want to be. And I'm like, no, we're not doing this anymore because

00:46:31.480 every song prompted a conversation, which is a good conversation. We had some good conversations

00:46:36.240 about those, about some of those lyrics at first before I realized, but then I was like, you know

00:46:40.860 what? This isn't even fair that I'm making you try to jump these theological hoops. It was only

00:46:47.320 like a couple of weeks of listening to these songs that I was like, no, I see why you think

00:46:51.840 they're fun and they are catchy, but no, because it's laying the exact opposite theological

00:46:56.660 biblical foundation than the one that I want to be set for her, which is that all of your

00:47:02.760 sufficiency and strength and wisdom and power is going to come from Christ, not from yourself at

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00:48:22.820 so talk a little bit more about that that for the parent out there who's like well of course

00:48:29.540 i don't believe in witchcraft i don't believe in manifesting i don't believe in tarot card

00:48:32.620 reading i'm not going to allow my child to do that it doesn't always look like witchcraft when

00:48:37.720 it comes to the things that your kids are consuming though right yeah absolutely i mean

00:48:42.980 it just looks like something that you were talking about hidden in a barbie movie i mean

00:48:47.800 nostalgia plays a big part uh it'll be something again that focuses on yourself on the idea of your

00:48:55.140 heart of love wishing on things like the disney wishing upon a star uh you know and just be you

00:49:02.360 and unfortunately we're seeing such disastrous things going on in our culture that uh are very

00:49:09.220 terrifying quite honestly uh that revolves around uh you can you can be whoever you want

00:49:16.820 And if you're not comfortable with where you are, you can change things about yourself.

00:49:22.420 You know, I'm tiptoeing around this a little bit.

00:49:24.000 You can change things about yourself because it's going to come back to that.

00:49:27.360 Well, you know what that is, Allie?

00:49:28.560 It's a confusion of identity.

00:49:30.820 That's what it is. 0.66

00:49:31.600 So even by puffing young ladies up with the Barbie song, it's all about you. 0.59

00:49:37.180 It's to puff you up, right? 0.56

00:49:38.580 And yes, you're right.

00:49:39.260 We do want to be puffed up in a sense, not in that arrogant way, but we want to feel

00:49:43.240 secure.

00:49:44.300 And you're right, that security is in Christ.

00:49:45.960 But the enemy attacks through identity, sex, gender, weight, hair color, you know, whatever it may be, anything to confuse that person and get them away from having a real identity, a liberating and salvific identity in Christ Jesus.

00:50:05.480 yeah i think people especially today because we imbibe so much of this like even in the church

00:50:13.620 like this just self-esteem culture that oh my gosh the biggest problem that women have is not

00:50:18.000 feeling good about themselves like people just don't want to say that so many of the struggles

00:50:22.960 that we have is really there they come down to pride they come down to vanity they come down to

00:50:28.920 just wanting to be in control people get mad at me when i talk about i struggled with an eating

00:50:33.020 disorder too. When I was in college, yes, there's an aspect of wanting to be in control

00:50:38.220 and addiction and things like that. But people don't like it when I say, I also just wanted to

00:50:43.400 look a certain way. I also wanted just attention. I was vanity for me too. Superficiality. Like

00:50:50.480 we try to pathologize everything into some kind of, you know, diagnosis. And sometimes we just

00:50:56.560 discount sin. And I think we need to realize, especially like with our daughters, how early

00:51:02.200 that can start. Of course, they're beautiful. We want them to know they're made in the image of

00:51:05.700 God, that he fearfully and wonderfully made them and all of those things. But we need to make sure

00:51:10.120 that they are deriving their confidence from the right places, not from their own power.

00:51:15.240 Because to me, that's what lays the groundwork for some of this really, really dark and evil stuff.

00:51:22.480 Yeah, absolutely. It's through our sin that the doors will be open, Allie, too, through our own

00:51:28.360 sin through our pride. And I'm glad that you called it out for what it is. That's fantastic.

00:51:33.880 That's part of it, of course. Right. And we know there's a spiritual battle going on. The Bible

00:51:38.480 is clear about that. I mean, we see that in Ephesians six, we see it second Corinthians 10,

00:51:44.700 starting in verse three. And when God's talking about the spiritual battle, you know, it's

00:51:48.160 interesting. The battle really starts in the mind. So once those thoughts, we want to get those out

00:51:52.520 quickly, right? We want to ask the Lord to govern over our thoughts. The Bible says to take our

00:51:58.160 thoughts captive and make them obedient to Christ.

00:52:00.440 So once these thoughts start coming in about ourselves and how great we should be or how

00:52:05.560 we should look, does that line up with the word of God?

00:52:08.780 No, that's not where our identity is.

00:52:11.480 But we've got to start there.

00:52:13.500 And I think you're making an excellent example by talking to your children and going over

00:52:18.760 these things with them so that they can understand.

00:52:21.020 And I pray that more people would hear that and do that as well, because those thoughts

00:52:26.900 can escalate.

00:52:28.160 very quickly. And then those thoughts go into your, you know, heart, and then can go into your

00:52:34.140 actions. And again, the children are so they're so susceptible, really, they're so vulnerable,

00:52:40.020 honestly. So yeah, absolutely be aware of the battle that's going on and the influence. Because

00:52:48.440 once you have that door open, whether it's through sin, unforgiveness, witchcraft, divination,

00:52:53.660 whatever it may be, then you've got to ask the Lord, you know, what doors you have already

00:52:59.600 opened and then ask him to help you to close them and pray about those things.

00:53:03.580 Of course, don't let them continue or fester.

00:53:10.000 One thing you write about that I just want to make sure that we discuss, because this

00:53:14.640 is something that I haven't thought about a lot, but you talk about really thoroughly

00:53:17.740 is how Satan can actually work through our thoughts and dreams.

00:53:23.800 Like there is some debate among Christians, like, can Satan do that?

00:53:27.160 Does he actually have the power to be in our minds?

00:53:30.300 Does he have the power over our dreams?

00:53:31.940 But you've written about his ability to manipulate these things.

00:53:35.800 So what does that look like?

00:53:37.820 Yeah, sure.

00:53:38.400 So let's say I'm in a spiritual, vulnerable place.

00:53:45.140 You know, maybe something just happened.

00:53:46.840 And so either, you know, you become physically sick or, you know, weak in some way, then I can be susceptible to, you know, the entities that are hovering around.

00:54:01.560 The Bible says that the devil prowls around, seeking to whom he may devour.

00:54:05.980 So if the devil can manipulate them, my thoughts, I'm already in this maybe not so great place.

00:54:11.140 And it's like, oh, you know, yeah, maybe I'm not good enough.

00:54:14.980 Maybe it's something about me back to me. Right. Maybe all these things. And then the enemy just has to, you know, give me that that little nudge, you know, maybe maybe control circumstances around me in a sense, you know, manipulate some things that I see something on TV and I'll think it's like a confirmation.

00:54:33.380 Like, you know, when you get in that position, it can be very bad for you.

00:54:38.040 He absolutely attacks in dreams, absolutely attacks in dreams.

00:54:44.980 And we see this commonly with familiar spirits.

00:54:49.680 Many people have dreams about their departed loved ones.

00:54:53.360 Now, I'm not saying every dream about a departed loved one is a familiar spirit.

00:54:58.200 You just may be missing them.

00:54:59.600 You're grieving.

00:55:00.140 So you're, you know, your subconscious is bringing that up in the dreams.

00:55:04.160 However, there are many times where it is a familiar spirit.

00:55:08.960 And we have seen that.

00:55:11.960 I hate to be so controversial today, I'll be honest with you.

00:55:15.160 But unfortunately, we even saw it with, you know, Candace Owens when she had the dream about Charlie Kirk.

00:55:19.980 And she believed it was Charlie Kirk really talking to her in the dream, really visiting the dead, communicating with the living.

00:55:28.280 And we know that that is not true. The Bible says that the dead do not communicate with the living.

00:55:33.300 So the enemy will do that because when we're sleeping, we're in a very, very in that in between state and spiritually, we are susceptible to entities coming in.

00:55:44.300 And it's really trying to forgive my verbiage, but to get us to come into agreement with lies, biblical untruths, right?

00:55:53.320 and get us away from Jesus and get us into sin and believing these lies and to affect us during

00:55:59.640 the day to to shape how we see things, the worldview that we have and affect us physically

00:56:07.200 and mentally to bring us down even more so that they can affect us even more. It's it's a terrible

00:56:14.780 hamster wheel, quite honestly. But yeah, I do believe that the enemy can manipulate the way

00:56:21.480 that we think and again certainly if you give any sort of permission what do i mean by that well 0.99

00:56:27.980 i went to the bridal shower they were having a tarot card reader there so it's just stupid it's

00:56:33.920 fun and games i had a reading okay that's that's a demonic door open right there so there you open 0.60

00:56:41.180 it and then i really do believe yeah the enemy can manipulate what you think about these things

00:56:46.560 and uh you know uh horoscope people look at horoscopes uh so you know it takes one time

00:56:55.540 for something to resonate with you that you no longer think it's just fun and games it's not

00:57:00.420 just entertainment it's not just a movie it takes one time one thing to resonate for you to start

00:57:05.860 putting your attention there but that is all part of the spiritual battle which is in the mind

00:57:11.380 Because how we think frames so many things and determines who we're going to listen to

00:57:17.080 and who we're going to serve.

00:57:19.400 Even though we don't live under Old Testament law, we can still derive aspects of God's

00:57:25.560 character and good lasting principles from the laws that he was giving in the Old Testament

00:57:32.840 and messing around with necromancy, mediums, witchcraft, idolatry was punishable by death

00:57:41.200 in the Old Testament. So no matter what, we can't say as Christians that it's no big deal.

00:57:46.340 It was a huge deal. It is a huge deal to God. Not just because, okay, yeah, this is one thing

00:57:54.520 that you're doing that doesn't align with just solely worshiping me, but also because it was

00:58:00.860 bad for them. Because he knew the addicting nature of it. He knew the demonic forces behind it.

00:58:06.760 He knew how destructive it not only is for one person, but an entire people, an entire society.

00:58:13.560 And you know, it's interesting when we see this prohibition in the old Testament against

00:58:18.920 witchcraft necromancy, that's if people don't know, that's talking to the dead, that saying

00:58:23.240 this dead person told me this thing, giving me wisdom and insight, which like you said,

00:58:27.320 we've seen recently, um, in mainstream discourse, like that is paired with God's prohibition

00:58:34.480 against child sacrifice. And so there is something that is interwoven with some of the worst

00:58:41.980 atrocities ever, the degradation of vulnerable children, which is something that you write

00:58:47.140 about in this book, like children are vulnerable to the consequences of witchcraft in more ways

00:58:52.320 than one. And God knew that from the beginning, that if you give yourself over to this evil,

00:58:56.680 you will give yourself over to that evil. And so no matter what, we can't trivialize it and say

00:59:02.040 it's no big deal. I appreciate you saying that. And if you look in Deuteronomy 18,

00:59:08.000 right before that little group of divination practices, we see that you shall not offer your

00:59:15.560 son or daughter as a living sacrifice. And this has been going on for ages, and you're absolutely

00:59:20.540 right. We are seeing that today in the most gruesome ways, and we are seeing that being

00:59:25.060 promoted. And it, to me, goes hand in hand with witchcraft. And maybe you're not saying that

00:59:31.100 you're, you know, giving these children up to Malik or whatever, but that was going on. That 0.88

00:59:36.900 is what it is. And it is so associated to witchcraft. And yes, we do have to take this

00:59:41.120 extremely seriously. God wants us to come to him, to come to him alone, to place our faith and trust

00:59:47.280 in him, not to go outside, not to look for any other source, powers or anything. And trust me,

00:59:54.960 It is so, again, liberating to surrender the reins that we never had to God who does have them, who has everything in control, who is sovereign over all things.

01:00:08.000 And he is so loving to give us these instructions in his word so that we would be safe, that we could be protected and get away from that. 0.55

01:00:16.160 And Christians need to be sober minded, need to get on their posts and really be aware 0.98

01:00:22.140 of how, when, where they are seeing these things and by who are they, you know, who's

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01:01:48.260 preborn.com slash Allie. Okay. Just a couple other questions I have. Maybe someone is listening to

01:01:58.600 this and they're like, okay, I'm done. I want to get out of this. I am in the midst of demonic

01:02:04.300 oppression and they keep hearing and seeing videos about deliverance. And there are people

01:02:09.400 who promise deliverance. If you pay enough money or you say the right things, it's very popular on

01:02:13.560 social media. You write about genuine deliverance by the Lord versus fake deliverance. So if someone

01:02:19.300 is in that situation, how can they discern the difference? Well, a real deliverance is you coming

01:02:26.540 to Lord Jesus Christ, putting your faith and trust in him, believing into the gospel that you have

01:02:32.880 heard, which is that you are a sinner. You were born into sin. That's the bad news. See, the

01:02:38.780 gospel is good news. It would just be news, as one of my pastors says, if there was no bad news. The

01:02:43.840 bad news, we are born into sin. We can do nothing on our own to earn our way to heaven. But Jesus

01:02:51.040 stepped out of heaven into humanity. He is the son of God. He committed no sin, the perfect sacrifice,

01:02:57.580 went to the cross to die and take God's wrath for the sins of the world.

01:03:03.400 And he was buried and raised the third day.

01:03:06.620 And the Bible says we must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven.

01:03:10.640 But it's about what Jesus did on the finished cross.

01:03:13.600 You don't need to go to a person and pay them X amount of dollars.

01:03:17.720 You need to come and put your faith and trust in Lord Jesus.

01:03:21.040 Believe him.

01:03:22.300 Believe the gospel.

01:03:23.480 Be saved.

01:03:24.340 Be born again.

01:03:25.200 That's the true deliverance.

01:03:26.880 being delivered, rescued, and healed out of the darkness, the bondage of your sin into the kingdom

01:03:33.760 of Christ and the light of Christ. And you will have an abundant life and an eternal life. Go to

01:03:39.660 God. You don't have to go to man. What do you think about the ex-witches, the ex-psychics,

01:03:47.780 the ex-tarot readers? I recently talked about one who was very popular on Witch Talk. Her name was

01:03:54.780 Alex. And she's now made videos about her repentance and realizing, you know, all the

01:03:59.680 things that she thought that she was finding in the new age and a witchcraft she has actually

01:04:04.260 found in their true form in Christ. There seems to be a wave of this going on. What do you make

01:04:09.900 of that? Yeah, it's really exciting because, you know, you think about how all that we have just

01:04:15.380 discussed and especially how social media is an outlet for the enemy. Well, it's also a place

01:04:22.500 where we are coming in and sharing the gospel.

01:04:25.500 And the gospel is being spread in really quick time,

01:04:29.860 seconds around the world and podcasts

01:04:31.840 and all the things that we're watching.

01:04:34.160 And the gospel is what has salvation power.

01:04:38.660 So I truly believe that all these people

01:04:41.420 that are on social media,

01:04:42.920 we're doing their psychic businesses on social media,

01:04:45.280 well, they're watching social media.

01:04:47.720 And maybe that's how the Lord used it for them.

01:04:50.580 But we are rising up for sure, because, you know, God has the victory.

01:04:55.560 The devil doesn't have the victory over anything.

01:04:58.060 So the devil may be trying his best to win souls and use whatever he can use to win people

01:05:04.880 over.

01:05:05.200 Right.

01:05:05.420 But so is God.

01:05:06.340 God is moving.

01:05:07.200 God hasn't left his throne.

01:05:08.920 God is still saving people.

01:05:10.240 So I praise God for that.

01:05:12.760 And I look forward to seeing more.

01:05:14.280 And, you know, we are in the end times since Jesus left, you know, so we're going to see

01:05:19.420 things ramp up.

01:05:20.260 I think in certain seasons. And I think this is one of those seasons. I think we've seen a lot

01:05:24.120 going on in the world that shifted people to a more spiritual, uh, I use the word spiritual,

01:05:29.640 um, even in regards to, you know, coming to Christ, because we are spiritual beings made

01:05:34.180 in the image of God, you know, after what happened to Charlie. And, um, we're just seeing

01:05:39.520 these things happen in the news and in the world that I do believe people are, uh, desiring truth

01:05:46.980 and salvation and jesus and god is using whatever he uses in their lives including and probably

01:05:54.500 social media to bring them there amen your book is darkness in disguise a biblical warning about

01:06:01.320 spiritual deception in our culture this is for christians is for new christians this is for

01:06:07.920 christians who have been christians for a very long time satan is very clever he who is in us

01:06:14.060 is greater than he who is in the world. So we can trust in that. As you said, we don't need

01:06:18.140 to be paranoid. We don't need to be fearful, but we need to be wise. We need to be as wise as

01:06:24.640 serpents. That's what the Bible commands us to do. And your book is helping us be wise and be

01:06:28.520 discerning, especially as parents. So Jen, thank you so much. The book is out. It came out September

01:06:34.180 1st. I appreciate you and your testimony so much. I appreciate you too. Thank you so much for having

01:06:40.820 me, Allie. God bless you, sister.

01:06:44.060 We'll be right back.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 25, 2026

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