Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 685 ｜ Stacey Abrams' Heartbeat Conspiracy Theory

00:00:00.000 Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams says heartbeats at six weeks gestation aren't

00:00:06.900 real. They are apparently a conspiracy theory made up by men who want to manipulate women

00:00:12.480 into keeping their babies. California's Gavin Newsom is using the Bible to coax people

00:00:18.640 back to his state to abort their babies. And an 83-year-old pro-lifer was shot by a pro-abortion

00:00:26.260 man because of her views. All of that thankfully punctuated with some good old gospel truth coming

00:00:32.860 up. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com

00:00:37.780 slash Allie. That's goodranchers.com slash Allie. All right, guys, hope everyone is having a wonderful

00:00:53.160 week. I wanted to add one story to the stories that we talked about yesterday. Remember, we talked

00:01:00.100 about the terrifying sandwich that conservative Americans are in. We've got the DOJ, the Justice

00:01:06.800 Department at the top that is run by progressive ideologues. And then we've got all the Biden voters,

00:01:12.560 the left-wing activists at the bottom. Both are willing to inflict violence and terror

00:01:18.760 on half of the country, which is in the middle. And we talked about the example of the pro-life

00:01:25.160 activist who allegedly pushed a man to the ground outside of an abortion clinic because this man

00:01:34.620 apparently got in the pro-life activist's son's face yelling obscenities. And so finally, Mark Hawk

00:01:41.860 is his name, the pro-life activist, pushed him back. And remember, the man tried to sue him

00:01:47.060 in district courts outside Philadelphia, and the court threw the case out. Of course, that is like

00:01:54.280 a misdemeanor at most. Well, now the DOJ picked up the case, showed up outside of Mark Hawk's home with

00:02:02.120 his seven children there, pointed guns at him and arrested him. And now he is facing 11 years in prison.

00:02:08.140 And then we also talked about how the bottom half of the sandwich, that example, was Kaler

00:02:13.380 Ellingson, a North Dakota 18-year-old who was murdered by a man named Shannon Brandt, who believed

00:02:20.500 that this teen was a quote-unquote Republican extremist, whatever the heck that even means.

00:02:26.480 And as if that would justify running over a kid with your car after the kid calls his mom

00:02:35.040 begging for help. And by the way, you don't see that name except among conservative Twitter. You

00:02:41.680 don't see that trending on Twitter. You don't see people saying, say his name. You don't see people

00:02:47.800 putting Kaler Ellingson on their jerseys or on their helmets, right? Isn't that interesting?

00:02:56.360 And so we talked about that terrifying sandwich that half the country is in, that if you defend

00:03:01.640 yourself against the bottom half of that sandwich, the ones who are terrorizing and attacking

00:03:09.180 conservatives, then the top of the sandwich, the DOJ, is going to come after you. And so you're put

00:03:15.180 in a very tough place. You are put between a rock and a hard place if you are simply the average

00:03:21.240 American. And you are maligned by the President of the United States as a radical extremist,

00:03:27.440 as a threat to democracy. And so, of course, this is just the inevitable conclusion. This is the

00:03:33.360 logical next step to that. And there is another example, unfortunately, of that inevitable conclusion

00:03:42.400 coming to fruition. There was an 83-year-old pro-life woman who was shot by a pro-abortion man

00:03:54.640 in Michigan just the other day. This is according to Fox News. An elderly pro-life volunteer in

00:04:00.720 Michigan was shot in the shoulder while canvassing a neighborhood to discuss an abortion ballot

00:04:05.420 proposal according to the Right to Life of Michigan. She was shot in the back slash shoulder while

00:04:11.000 leaving a residence during a heated conversation. And the man who shot her apparently wasn't even part

00:04:16.280 of the conversation. The woman was canvassing a neighborhood in Lake Odessa to discuss the

00:04:21.280 states vote on Proposal 3, which would, Fox News uses this language, which is interesting,

00:04:26.180 protect abortion access in the state. The state will vote on the proposal on November 8th. And so

00:04:33.000 this person was simply doing what you're supposed to do in what's it called? A democracy that the left

00:04:38.380 says that they like so much. She is simply informing her community at 83 years old. You know, at 83 years

00:04:44.900 old, it'd be a lot easier to just check out, just to sit at home, to not care about unborn lives,

00:04:49.780 to not care about what goes on in your community or state. Yet she was taking the time to inform

00:04:55.580 her fellow citizens, her neighbors, all of this vote that they're about to have. Apparently she got

00:05:00.680 into some kind of heated exchange and a rando decided to shoot her in the back. Shoot her in the back

00:05:07.560 because she believes that it is right to protect unborn lives. Now you might think that that's just

00:05:15.320 random. You might think that that is just some nut out there. But again, I would argue that is simply

00:05:22.240 the logical consequence of the rhetoric that the Biden administration, that the DOJ, that the media,

00:05:32.340 and that the abortion activists have put forth. Like, this is what happens when you say that people

00:05:39.380 who simply care about protecting the lives of children inside the womb are terrorists, are evil,

00:05:46.840 are wicked, want to enslave women, are somehow white supremacists because of this, that we're radical

00:05:54.380 extremists. But it's also not very surprising that people who believe that it's okay to poison,

00:06:02.060 starve, dismember babies inside the womb also happen to think that it's okay to murder people outside of

00:06:08.860 the womb because you disagree with them. Now, I'm not saying that everyone who calls themselves

00:06:13.900 pro-choice or who is pro-abortion would explicitly say that they think it's okay to shoot someone,

00:06:20.860 to try to kill someone that they politically disagree with. But I will say that this is, again,

00:06:30.240 a logical conclusion, not just to the rhetoric, the extreme, hateful, fear-mongering, hate-mongering

00:06:37.680 rhetoric that we have been hearing from the pro-abortion side, but it's also the logical

00:06:41.840 conclusion to the pro-choice, pro-abortion idea. Of course, if you dehumanize a human being

00:06:49.680 simply because of their size, simply because of their age, simply because of their stage of

00:06:54.320 development, simply because of their ability, simply because of their location, then of course

00:07:01.180 that is going to lead to the dehumanization of people outside of the womb. Why wouldn't it?

00:07:06.220 What is so magical about the birth canal that suddenly value and rights are ascribed to a human

00:07:14.000 being? That is superstitious nonsense. And it's superstitious nonsense that is always going to

00:07:20.080 lead to violence of other kinds. And that, of course, is what we saw against this 83-year-old.

00:07:26.620 Now, praise God, this 83-year-old is alive. What's going to happen to this guy who shot him? Well,

00:07:34.060 we know what happened to Shannon Brandt, at least so far, the guy who murdered the 18-year-old

00:07:39.880 alleged Republican. He is out on the streets. He's walking free. He posted a $50,000 bond. He's not

00:07:48.380 on house arrest. He doesn't have a curfew. He is literally walking free right now in North Dakota

00:07:53.520 after murdering a kid because of an alleged political disagreement. What's happened to Jane's

00:08:01.060 revenge? All of those people who claimed credit for the terrorism against pregnancy centers over

00:08:09.960 the past few months, pregnancy centers that are doing the very thing that the pro-abortion side

00:08:16.960 says that they want, giving women a choice. But again, that's not surprising when you've got

00:08:23.120 politicians on the Democratic side, like Elizabeth Warren and others, saying that we need to go after

00:08:29.120 these pregnancy centers because they're lying to women. They're manipulating women. No, it's not

00:08:35.220 the pregnancy centers that are lying or manipulating. As usual, this is projection. As usual, the exact

00:08:43.580 opposite is true. It's Planned Parenthood. Talk to anyone who used to work in a Planned Parenthood and

00:08:48.240 now doesn't. I've had two former Planned Parenthood workers on this podcast, Monica Klein, Abby Johnson,

00:08:54.320 and they will tell you that manipulation and deceit is a part of the process, is a part of the sales

00:09:03.300 pitch at Planned Parenthood. It's Planned Parenthood who tells young girls, you can't do this. There are

00:09:10.280 no options for you. There are no real choices for you. You need to finish school. You need to pursue

00:09:15.960 your career. That guy that you just had a baby with, he's not a great guy. And look, you're only 12 weeks

00:09:21.860 long. This is not really a baby anyway. This is just a clump of cells. It's not going to hurt the

00:09:27.840 baby. It's not going to hurt you. You'll just be able to move on with your life. You're not going to

00:09:31.520 be depressed. You're not going to be anxious. You're not going to have nightmares over this. You're not

00:09:35.320 going to live with this for the rest of your life. You're not going to feel guilty. You're going to feel

00:09:38.320 great. You'll be out of here the next day. There are no real side effects. Don't worry about it.

00:09:42.880 It's basically like getting a tooth pulled. No big deal. That's all a lie. That's a lie. And they have

00:09:50.300 to lie in order to convince women to kill their child because it is the most unnatural thing in

00:09:58.440 the world. That is why the pro-abortion side uses euphemisms. Don't you notice that? That they use words

00:10:05.020 like reproductive health or reproductive freedom or pregnancy tissue or clumps of cells that they

00:10:13.180 can't ever actually say what an abortion is and does. And they will obfuscate. They will distract.

00:10:20.340 They will avoid any kind of real explicit conversation about what an abortion procedure

00:10:26.800 is because even they know it's barbarism. That's one really good indication that you're on the wrong

00:10:33.380 side if the truth hurts your case. If the truth of what you're defending hurts your case,

00:10:38.860 if you cannot get into details about what you are defending, if you can't use non-euphemistic language

00:10:45.320 to make your case, then you're on the wrong side. And that is why they rely on propaganda. That's why

00:10:53.980 they rely on deceit. That's why they rely on misinformation. That's why they rely on euphemisms

00:10:59.140 to make it palatable. That's why they have to say and why they have been saying overturning Roe v.

00:11:04.460 Wade somehow inhibits miscarriage care, which as we have detailed on this podcast, looking at every

00:11:10.760 pro-life bill in law that has come forward and has been passed in the past few months since the

00:11:17.540 Dobbs decision, there is no law on the books that inhibits miscarriage care. There could be scared or

00:11:24.040 paranoid or political doctors out there. There could be lying journalists. There could be manipulative

00:11:30.700 political activists and politicians that are saying that, that are actually trying to inhibit

00:11:36.480 care in order to make a political point. But there is no pro-life law on the books that is prohibiting

00:11:41.680 women from getting ectopic pregnancy care or miscarriage care. The next time you hear someone say

00:11:46.800 that, make them quote you the exact line from the exact law that is prohibiting miscarriage and

00:11:52.320 ectopic care in a particular state. It's not happening. But that's what the pro-abortion side

00:11:57.840 has to do. They have to lie. They have to use euphemisms and they have to turn around and say

00:12:02.440 that you're the one that's lying. So they can justify violence against you and violence against the

00:12:07.560 pregnancy centers that are doing everything that pro-choicers say have to be done in order to be

00:12:12.600 pro-life. They say, oh, women need resources. We need to help these vulnerable women. We need to

00:12:18.160 help women make it easier to keep their babies before we can try to protect the legal right of

00:12:23.500 an unborn child to live. First of all, even if there were no resources whatsoever for women,

00:12:30.460 even if women were really out cold and out on the street and there were no pregnancy centers

00:12:36.220 available giving free diapers or anything, it still wouldn't justify murdering a human being.

00:12:41.360 If a baby outside of the womb has poor parents, does it justify the killing

00:12:45.220 of a newborn? If not, why not? Again, that birth canal isn't magical. There's no fetus fairy that's

00:12:52.440 sprinkling, you know, value and worth and human rights dust on the baby when he or she is coming

00:12:58.120 out of the womb. So poverty and destitution, while awful and while Christians should absolutely run into

00:13:06.400 those things, they don't justify the killing of an unborn child. But the reality is, is that there are

00:13:14.180 resources that pregnancy centers have been doing the very work that the pro-choice, pro-abortion,

00:13:21.140 even the mushy middle side say need to be done before they can truly believe that babies in the

00:13:30.340 womb have human rights. And I really hate when I hear that from especially those, you know who I'm

00:13:37.080 talking about, those like professing Christian women, social justice in the middle, who they don't

00:13:44.160 want to, they don't want to say that they're fully pro-life. They still want to vote Democrat.

00:13:49.940 They want to just say, oh, it's nuanced, it's nuanced, it's nuanced. We got to, we got to help

00:13:53.580 women outside of the womb. We got to holistically meet their needs. When's the last time you've worked

00:13:58.240 at a pregnancy center? Now, if you have, praise God, then keep going, keep doing it. We disagree

00:14:03.040 politically, but I am thankful for your work. But if you haven't, shut up, stop talking, get off your

00:14:10.600 couch, stop complaining on Instagram, and go to your local pregnancy center and say, how can I help?

00:14:17.600 Because I guarantee you the work that you say needs to be done for the vulnerable women in your

00:14:21.660 community has been being done for longer than you have been alive. All right. And so the fact that

00:14:29.020 these pregnancy centers are being demonized, they're being firebombed, they are being accused

00:14:34.240 of lying and deceiving when really they are presenting life and life to the full, not just

00:14:43.540 in physical resources, so many physical resources. Many pregnancy centers help these mothers and families

00:14:50.920 out through 36 months after birth, sometimes even longer than that. But also spiritual resources,

00:14:57.860 also counseling, also guidance, also the gospel. And that is really what Elizabeth Warren et al.

00:15:04.240 hates. That's what they hate. They hate the gospel. They hate life. They hate truth. Of course,

00:15:10.700 of course, they are of this world. They love death. They love sin. They love wickedness.

00:15:19.320 They can't help but lie because they follow the father of lies. So recognize the spiritual battle

00:15:25.440 that is within the sandwich that we're talking about, but is also in the direct attack on

00:15:31.260 pregnancy centers. And of course, our federal government is an agent of the darkness that

00:15:36.120 I'm talking about. It's just how it is. It's not to say that the spiritual battle is clean cut right

00:15:41.520 versus left. But that is to say that the left wing ideology that is powerful today is on the side of

00:15:46.760 darkness. And it, of course, is going to lead to more darkness than death. That's just what it is.

00:15:51.140 And as I said, that is going to inherit in that is going to be a lot of lying. And that reminds me

00:15:59.880 of Stacey Abrams. She recently told a lie on stage about baby development that I just found stunning.

00:16:06.540 And I want to respond to it. And I will in just a second.

00:16:19.340 All right. So I want to show you this incredible clip of the real governor of Georgia, Stacey Abrams.

00:16:31.320 There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks. It is a manufactured sound designed to

00:16:38.680 convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman's body away from them.

00:16:45.780 Okay. Stacey Abrams, like, have you ever had an ultrasound? Have you ever had an ultrasound?

00:16:53.180 I mean, anyone who has been pregnant or anyone who has been in the room during a sonogram, anyone with,

00:17:00.640 I don't know, two brain cells to rub together, understand that that heartbeat is real. That's

00:17:07.120 what indicates that you have a life inside of you. And if you don't have a life inside of you,

00:17:12.320 then you're not pregnant. But people also understand that if there is no heartbeat,

00:17:17.860 heartbeat, if the doctor, the sonographer goes in there six, seven, eight weeks, does not find a

00:17:25.640 heartbeat, then that means that your baby, that you've had a miscarriage. You cannot have a miscarriage

00:17:33.480 if you are never pregnant with a living human being. That is a heartbeat. That is the time the

00:17:40.600 heartbeat starts. And I understand that the New York Times, again, euphemism, they use things like

00:17:47.400 electric pulses or cardiac activity. That is absolutely absurd. Yes, sure. The heart isn't

00:17:55.360 fully formed the way ours is, but that is also true, by the way, of an infant. Like an infant's

00:18:02.660 body, both inside and out, is still developing. And when you're a toddler, you're more developed than

00:18:08.540 you were when you were a newborn. When you are a teenager, you're more developed than you were

00:18:12.940 when you were a toddler, and so on. Does that mean that the heartbeat of a newborn is not real

00:18:20.560 until they're, I don't know, a certain age, until the heart is a certain size? That doesn't even make

00:18:27.320 any sense. But Stacey Abrams is a part of Blue Anon. That's what we call it. You know, QAnon,

00:18:35.160 that crazy conspiracy theory. Blue Anon is much more mainstream and much more prevalent. And it is

00:18:43.520 an umbrella term for all of the crazy things that people on the left believe and take as fact and

00:18:52.740 actually like become mainstream in the media and become narratives that actually affect policy,

00:18:58.380 corporate policy, public policy. And of course, shape what people think about how the world works.

00:19:05.580 One conspiracy is that a man can become a woman or like this crazy idea, at least that they have,

00:19:10.460 that a man can become a woman. Another crazy conspiracy theory that they had was that

00:19:14.620 Donald Trump wasn't really, he didn't really legitimately become president, that it was

00:19:20.460 actually Vladimir Putin that allowed him to become president. Like you remember that, right?

00:19:25.840 You remember that that apparently was not a threat to democracy when Democrats were trying to

00:19:31.120 weaponize the federal government against Donald Trump based on a baseless conspiracy theory that

00:19:37.040 he was a Russian agent and that Russian collusion got him into office. Like they were so far in denial

00:19:44.820 that they couldn't even accept the fact that maybe Hillary Clinton wasn't the best candidate to put

00:19:49.960 forward. And it had to be Vladimir Putin that got Donald Trump elected. Like you remember that.

00:19:55.060 Also, a part of Blue Anon is the idea that this was a crazy poll and I wish I had it. I wish I had

00:20:03.380 it up right now. But I remember talking about it probably about a year ago. There was a poll of liberals

00:20:09.320 liberals and conservatives asking them how likely you think that it is to go to the hospital if you

00:20:16.360 get COVID. Liberals thought it was 50%. It's like 1%, guys. There was also a question about based on

00:20:24.560 political ideology, how many unarmed Black men do you think are killed every year by the police?

00:20:30.540 Liberals thought that it was like 1,000 to 10,000. The answer is like 20. And so there's a lot of

00:20:37.320 prominent Blue Anon. There's a lot of prominent Blue Anon narratives, one of them also being that

00:20:43.200 Stacey Abrams lost the gubernatorial race in Georgia a few years ago, that the election was stolen

00:20:51.880 because of some kind of collusion and strategy. And so I guess it shouldn't surprise me that she is

00:21:00.320 completely delusional about abortion, that she thinks it's some grand misogynistic conspiracy theory

00:21:06.200 between men and politicians, too. They all got together one day and they were like, ooh, let's

00:21:12.960 pretend like there is cardiac activity. Let's pretend like there's a heartbeat. So women will keep their

00:21:19.180 babies. Again, you can actually see the heartbeat on the screen when you are getting a sonogram. I would

00:21:28.080 love to know how the female sonographer that I've had both times tricked me into thinking that that was

00:21:36.760 a heartbeat. It's literally crazy. It's literally insane. And there are people in Georgia, moderates,

00:21:44.220 independents, Christians in Georgia, that will vote for Stacey Abrams, thinking that this is the

00:21:51.920 compassionate choice. I also saw, we don't have the clip, I just saw it circulating the other day,

00:21:57.460 she was at a church, looked like a traditionally black church, up there saying, of course, that you

00:22:02.180 need to vote for her and that she is running in the spirit of Deborah. And I just gotta ask, is that

00:22:09.700 Christian nationalism? Should we be so worried that she is invoking the name of a biblical character

00:22:15.620 and saying that that is what she is running on? No, no, no. That's never Christian nationalism.

00:22:20.700 It's never Christian nationalism when leftists quote the Bible. It's never Christian nationalism

00:22:27.080 when leftists say that they're running in the spirit of some Bible character. It is never

00:22:34.140 Christian nationalism, apparently, when leftists say, oh, we should accept everyone who wants to

00:22:39.540 come in the United States because a verse in Exodus says that we must welcome the foreigners. It's never

00:22:44.340 Christian nationalism when we say that, when leftists say that Jesus was a socialist because the early

00:22:49.120 church shared, and by the way, all of these are used and misused and abused, decontextualized verses

00:22:56.340 that do not lay a basis, as we've talked about many times, for the arguments and the policies that

00:23:03.120 leftists put forth. That apparently is not Christian nationalism, but it is Christian nationalism when

00:23:09.240 someone says, oh, I don't think it's right to kill an unborn child because God made us in his image

00:23:15.880 and fearfully and wonderfully knit us together in our mother's womb. Oh, that's so scary. That's

00:23:20.360 theocracy. That's fascism. That's extremism. That's Christian nationalism. But Stacey Abrams

00:23:25.640 being on stage at a church saying, vote for me because I'm Deborah, that is well and good. As I've

00:23:32.620 said many times before, and I understand this is controversial, and you can tell me if you think that

00:23:38.500 I'm wrong, but I've seen enough video sermons and watched enough of this to think that my assessment

00:23:46.920 is probably correct, the most political, overtly political churches in the United States are not

00:23:52.540 the Trump-supporting churches. They're not the so-called white evangelical churches. It's the

00:23:57.420 traditionally black church that will bring Democrat politicians up on stage every election cycle

00:24:06.040 and tell their congregants to vote for them and to, and that talk explicitly about political

00:24:14.820 policies, almost always Democrat political policies that must be supported in order to be

00:24:22.540 a real, true, faithful Christian. And yet people on the left will freak out if someone on the right

00:24:28.820 says something similar that, hey, you can't be a faithful Christian and support abortion. Hey,

00:24:32.660 you can't be a faithful Christian and believe in sex-wishing. Hey, you can't be a faithful

00:24:37.800 Christian and support a lot of the policies on the Democrat side that are explicitly anti-biblical.

00:24:44.240 No, again, that's Christian nationalism. But if the traditionally black church says the same thing,

00:24:49.740 except on the Democrat side, no, that's good. That's liberation. That's just, you know,

00:24:54.940 that's just what you do. It's just interesting. It's just interesting. Speaking of using and abusing,

00:25:02.400 misusing the Bible for disgusting purposes, for bad and deleterious policies, Gavin Newsom,

00:25:11.360 governor of California, has put up abortion ads using Mark 12 31.

00:25:24.940 All right. So these billboards are going up, paid for by Gavin Newsom, funded by $100,000 from Newsom's

00:25:38.840 re-election campaign, despite the campaign having not paid for a single ad on California TV. That's

00:25:43.460 interesting. And we'll put up a picture of these, uh, of these billboards. And he puts, so he puts

00:25:52.140 Mark 12 31, you shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater

00:26:00.180 than these. Um, and so he's put, he puts up this, uh, he puts up this ad, I guess it's going in to

00:26:08.100 Texas and it says, uh, Texas doesn't own your body. You do visit abortion.ca.gov to learn more. And he's

00:26:17.180 got a couple like that. And then here's the one that has Mark 12 31 need an abortion. California

00:26:22.840 is ready to help love your neighbor as yourself. There is no greater commandment than these.

00:26:27.380 So how desperate do you have to be? So I guess he's trying to get people to move back to California

00:26:33.080 that moved away from California because of his awful policies. And he thinks that the people that

00:26:38.580 moved away from California for better policies in Indiana and tech, I mean, think about it. Look,

00:26:46.660 I love Mississippi and I love South Dakota. I love Oklahoma. I love all these places,

00:26:52.780 but think about how much you have to hate Gavin Newsom's policies to move from the beach to

00:26:59.960 Mississippi. I'm just saying, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Mississippi. I'm just

00:27:04.820 saying that there is a big difference between Malibu and Jackson, Mississippi. And so I'm

00:27:11.300 thinking that the people who moved away from California that has really good weather to places

00:27:18.380 like, I don't know, Houston that has really muggy weather really, really did not like the policies

00:27:26.120 of Gavin Newsom where the taxes are inordinately high. And for what, by the way, because crime has

00:27:33.700 skyrocketed, homelessness is out of control. The climate policies there are ruining the state,

00:27:40.080 helping cause these forest fires and these shutdowns of the electric grid. I understand

00:27:46.140 why people still live there. And it's not just for the weather. You've got roots, you've got family,

00:27:50.120 you've got community. Some people have really awesome churches that they go to. That's where you've

00:27:54.940 built your life. And maybe you feel called to stay there and to fight for good things in your

00:28:01.240 community. I have friends that live in California and have amazing lives. And so I understand why

00:28:07.000 people are still there. But if you have moved for the sake of policy, do you think an abortion ad is

00:28:13.100 what is going to get you back of all things? I think the only thing that would get some people back to

00:28:19.220 California is Gavin Newsom getting out of office, doing something about the crime and the poverty and

00:28:25.700 homelessness and the inordinate tax rates. But apparently Gavin Newsom thinks he is going to

00:28:31.920 manipulate the Christians and the independence conservatives who left his state by using

00:28:37.420 Mark 321 or sorry, not Mark 321, Mark 1231 to get people back into the state. Abortion is the opposite of

00:28:48.180 love. It is the exact opposite of love. It might be self-love in the sense that it is self-interest

00:28:55.840 in the sense that it is doing what you think is best for you, even at the expense of your own child.

00:29:03.560 And look, I'm not speaking as someone who does not have abundant grace and understanding and

00:29:10.460 compassion for women who have had abortions. We have had women on this podcast who have had abortions who

00:29:15.240 told their amazing testimonies of both shame and guilt and then forgiveness and redemption and how

00:29:22.900 God has used those terrible moments in their lives for the good of other people and his own glory.

00:29:28.420 And I'll just say, just as an aside, if you have had an abortion, there's all the grace and all the

00:29:34.200 forgiveness and all the mercy in the world for you. And God can heal you. He will heal you. He will

00:29:41.220 bring you into himself and he can use your story to help other people and to save lives. And so we can

00:29:49.300 say that and know that and absolutely believe that because I do and also regard abortion and talk about

00:29:55.600 abortion as what it is, which is a self-interested act that sacrifices the life and the well-being of a

00:30:03.460 vulnerable and voiceless person, which is that baby inside the womb. So it is the opposite of Mark 1231.

00:30:09.720 It is the opposite of loving your neighbor as yourself. Guess what? The unborn child is also

00:30:16.200 your neighbor. The unborn child is also your neighbor. And so when I hear leftists use this

00:30:24.220 verse to say, oh, we have to love our neighbor through our vote. Well, what about the unborn

00:30:28.120 neighbor? Like she's alive just because you can't see her in the womb at all times doesn't mean that

00:30:34.700 she doesn't count. Doesn't mean that she doesn't matter to God. And so I really take issue. I

00:30:43.380 really take issue with this verse. And by the way, I also just don't think that left-wing policies and

00:30:49.800 programs do help our neighbors anyway. I actually think that they're very damaging to the rights and

00:30:56.720 the liberty and the protection and the prosperity of our neighbors. So I don't even buy any argument

00:31:01.200 that left-wing programs or policies or voting in that direction is loving your neighbor. I see it

00:31:06.900 as extremely harmful, but especially for the unborn neighbor. I mean, in that case, we're literally

00:31:12.800 talking about life and death. And so, of course, of course, they are misusing this verse in this way.

00:31:20.620 Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy. He is the father of lies. This is how he functions.

00:31:26.840 And so just as Satan in the wilderness, when he is tempting Jesus, uses the word of God

00:31:36.460 to try to tempt Jesus into sin, just as he uses the true words of God to tell a lie,

00:31:46.800 so Gavin Newsom is using the true words of God that we should love our neighbor as ourself

00:31:51.820 to tell a lie, that abortion is loving. But that's what you do when you follow the father of lies.

00:31:58.640 And since I've referenced that a couple of times, let me read it from John 8, 44. This is Jesus

00:32:03.780 speaking. He says, you are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires.

00:32:10.440 He was a murderer from the beginning. He was a murderer from the beginning.

00:32:14.300 Not really surprising that he loves abortion. You are of your father, the devil, and your will

00:32:21.520 is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth

00:32:26.180 because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar

00:32:31.740 and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, Jesus says, you do not believe me.

00:32:40.500 Very pertinent today. There are still millions and millions of people, even those who profess to

00:32:49.220 be Christians, who follow the father of lies. And by the way, that was true of all of us too. So I

00:32:56.220 don't say that as someone, none of us say that as people who are innately superior. We are simply

00:33:03.200 people who are saved by grace. Remember Ephesians 2, starting with verse 1, and you were dead in the

00:33:09.300 trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following

00:33:13.540 the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience,

00:33:18.580 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and

00:33:24.540 the mind, and were by nature children of wrath like the rest of mankind. So we were also once children

00:33:31.180 of wrath. We were also susceptible to these lies of the devil. We were also susceptible to the misuse and

00:33:38.340 abuse of scripture to justify something as unloving and as demonic as abortion. And so when we talk

00:33:45.600 about this, when we talk about the manipulation, when we just say, oh my goodness, how could someone

00:33:50.240 possibly believe this? How could someone possibly say this? We have to remember that we were once in

00:33:56.800 that boat. We were once in that position. And we are not where we are now through our own wisdom,

00:34:01.480 through our own efforts, because we're so awesome and knowledgeable and logical and scientific. It's

00:34:07.280 only by the grace of God. But God, in verse 4, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with

00:34:15.520 which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses. So because of God's great love,

00:34:22.660 even when we were dead in our trespasses, dead, a dead person, and this is just an aside,

00:34:27.400 this doesn't even have to do with abortion. We're just talking about the gospel now, but we'll bring

00:34:31.100 it all back. A dead person cannot earn God's favor. A dead person cannot work for their salvation. A dead

00:34:37.160 person cannot earn someone's love or be deserving of someone's mercy or even make themselves clean

00:34:44.860 before God to make themselves acceptable to him. But it says in verse 4 that God, being rich in his

00:34:51.100 mercy because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses,

00:34:55.940 made us alive together with Christ. By grace, you have been saved and raised us up with him and

00:35:01.840 seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages, he might show the

00:35:07.240 immeasurable riches of his grace and kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Well, from salvation,

00:35:12.760 redemption, all of it, this all has to do with God. It's authored by God. It is for God. We are

00:35:18.360 beneficiaries of it, but we are not the authors of it. We are not the point of it. God's glory is the

00:35:28.100 point. His grace is the initiator. For by grace, you have been saved through faith, and this is not

00:35:34.100 your own doing. How clear does he have to be here? By grace, you have been saved through faith. This is

00:35:40.200 not your own doing. It is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are

00:35:46.600 his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should

00:35:52.940 walk in them. That's the truth. You know that truth? God brings you into that truth by his grace

00:36:01.900 through faith, and you start to be able to discern other lies, like the lie that Gavin Newsom

00:36:08.400 is putting forth right now, that loving your neighbor means killing your neighbor in the womb.

00:36:15.700 And I pray. I do. I pray for Stacey Abrams. I pray for Gavin Newsom. I pray for all people,

00:36:23.740 left or right, but especially those that are advancing these influential and very deadly lies

00:36:29.420 in the name of God, that they would repent, that they would see their sin, that God would save them,

00:36:35.040 because God can do that. Think of the most wicked person that you can think of. Think of the worst

00:36:41.320 politician. Think of some of the most evil actors on this planet. God can save them. No one is too far

00:36:48.060 outside of God's mercy. And if God calls someone, if God extends that irresistible grace to someone,

00:36:55.640 that heart will turn around. It will soften, and lives will change. And changed lives and minds and hearts

00:37:03.720 can change society. I don't know if God is going to have that kind of mercy on our land. I hope that

00:37:10.260 he does, but outside of that, I don't see a whole lot of hope for betterment of our world or our country.

00:37:17.820 And so I hope and pray that even in these destructive lies that are being put forth, that God turns hearts

00:37:24.440 to himself. And I just wish, if just the church, if only Christians, if everyone else just believed lies,

00:37:31.920 but at least all professing Christians believed the truth and stood for the truth, then things would

00:37:39.740 change. Things would be better, but we can't even get there. We've got too many professing Christians,

00:37:45.700 Gavin Newsom being one of them, Stacey Abrams being another one, who are simply advancing the most

00:37:52.620 dangerous lies and the most deadly lies that we can think of. But just as we pray for our own

00:37:59.480 sanctification, just as we pray for God to give us wisdom and show us the truth and show us when we're

00:38:06.740 wrong and show us when we believe deceit, because we all have and still do, show us when we believe lies,

00:38:13.120 that he would do the same for those who believe in the lie of abortion and that he would change the

00:38:20.000 hearts, even of the violent actors who are hurting these pregnancy centers, who are hurting

00:38:25.860 these pro-lifers, even the people in the FBI at the DOJ, even Joe Biden himself. I do. I genuinely

00:38:34.360 pray for their repentance, and I believe that God can do it. But I also understand and thank God that

00:38:41.780 there will be a day that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,

00:38:46.020 and I won't have to make any podcast anymore about the craziness of abortion and the evil in this

00:38:52.600 world. And I won't have to keep reminding you about the sovereignty and the goodness of God because

00:38:55.980 it will be everywhere. It will characterize everything. All right, guys, that's all we have

00:39:11.880 time for. Today, there are like five other stories that I am looking at on my document that I wanted

00:39:18.380 to discuss. And I just, if I did, once again, just as I said yesterday, I would be here for like

00:39:25.120 another hour and a half. There's never enough time in the day. You know, people always ask me,

00:39:30.960 how do you have enough to talk about every day? Is there ever a day when you're like, oh, I don't have

00:39:35.540 anything to talk about? I'm like, no, actually, no. If I had a four-hour show every day, Blaze TV,

00:39:42.860 do not get any ideas. If I had a four-hour show every day, I would still not have enough time to

00:39:50.760 talk. There's so much that goes on in the world. You guys send me stories all the time, all the time

00:39:55.600 asking what I think about them, and I don't have time to get through all of them. And so, yeah,

00:40:01.340 there's always an abundance of things to talk about. And we have some other, we have some

00:40:05.580 episodes coming up that are like evergreen episodes in the sense that they're not news,

00:40:10.640 but they're subjects that you guys have been asking me about for a long time. You guys really

00:40:14.000 love those. When I do a deep dive on a subject, like the episodes that I've done in the past on

00:40:18.300 IVF and surrogacy, definitely go listen to those. That is being talked about again right now when

00:40:24.380 we talked about that a long time ago, and that was something that you guys were really interested in.

00:40:29.300 But also, we've got some funny videos coming up. We actually, okay, I think I can say this.

00:40:36.940 What's the comedian's name that did the Biden interview? Yeah, Awaken with JP. So he just did

00:40:44.580 this hilarious fake interview with Biden. It was really good. And we were also filming and editing

00:40:51.640 ours, and it just wasn't done yet. We were still getting it right. And then we saw that his came out,

00:40:56.280 and we were like, okay, I don't feel like we can put it out too, because then it looks like we're

00:40:59.620 just trying to do the same thing. And so unfortunately, we did have one planned, and then

00:41:04.340 we are ending up not putting it up because of that. But we do have other funny videos coming out

00:41:11.980 really soon. I know you guys love those. So just wanted to let you know that. Also, make sure that

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 27, 2022

Ep 685 ｜ Stacey Abrams' Heartbeat Conspiracy Theory

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