Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 718 ｜ Kanye Praises Hitler & Defends Balenciaga

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00:01:22.940 All right, guys. So we've got a ton to talk about today. I wanted to start out talking about this

00:01:33.980 Kanye stuff. And I'm sure that you have heard a little bit about it. But when I kind of just

00:01:39.800 alluded to it on Instagram, a lot of you guys asked me, can you break down what happened? And so I am

00:01:48.300 going to try to do that. There are so many layers to this that probably only a lot of us who are kind

00:01:56.580 of in conservative media can like think about all of the nooks and the crannies and relationships

00:02:03.240 and things, connections that are involved in this. It's wild. It's kind of wild. I've never seen

00:02:10.600 this close of an interaction between or prolonged interaction between like a mainstream Hollywood

00:02:18.540 figure and not just conservative media. But now we're talking like the more obscure parts of

00:02:25.060 conservative media. So let me tell you what I'm talking about. Kanye West, as you guys know,

00:02:31.800 he has kind of been somewhat of a figure kind of within conservatism, if you could even say that

00:02:41.080 he's never called himself a conservative, I don't think. But a few years ago, when he tweeted,

00:02:46.660 I love the way Candace Owens thinks, that was a really big deal. That was huge. I mean,

00:02:52.420 Candace already had a huge platform at the time. She already had a lot of influence. But here we have 0.71

00:02:58.120 maybe the most influential hip hop artist in the world saying that he has watched Candace Owens's

00:03:06.720 videos and that he appreciates the way that she thinks. I mean, that was significant for that

00:03:11.880 reason. But also, you have a black celebrity saying that he likes a conservative. And we know that the

00:03:20.620 vast majority of black Americans vote Democrat, the vast majority of black Americans vote in line with

00:03:26.300 liberal values, even if they themselves, a lot of people would say actually kind of have a lot of

00:03:32.240 conservative values. Personally, about 90% of black Americans vote Democrat. And so this was pretty 1.00

00:03:40.560 unique. This was pretty special. I mean, it was cool. Charlie Kirk, I think, met with Kanye West at the

00:03:48.200 time. And then later, Kanye West met with Donald Trump. Kanye said that he likes Donald Trump. He met with

00:03:54.860 him in the White House, like wearing a MAGA hat. And so it was a pretty big deal. And not only that,

00:04:01.700 but a little bit after that, it seemed that Kanye kind of had this come to Jesus moment. He released

00:04:08.120 an album called Jesus is King, which was a good album, by the way. I don't know if I agreed with

00:04:13.900 like all of the theology of every song that he put out, but people were pretty excited about it. Like

00:04:19.640 any celebrity that is going to declare that Jesus is King and mean it, like I count that as a good thing.

00:04:25.760 Now, I did not say at the time, okay, let's get our, let's get our, you know, theological lessons from

00:04:33.100 Kanye West, or let's start following him as some kind of Christian leader or pastor or anything like

00:04:39.420 that. But of course, I am going to celebrate what seems to be any kind of like genuine,

00:04:45.820 repentant experience, especially one that is on public display. And it was also talked about at

00:04:54.620 the time that he had a mentor, a pastor in California at the time who had graduated from

00:05:00.640 John MacArthur's Master's Seminary. All right. So we're talking like Reformed theology. We're talking

00:05:07.080 about a conservative in the biblical sense, Christianity. This could be an awesome thing.

00:05:13.080 He was leading the worship services. People were excited about that. He was also kind of like

00:05:19.780 speaking out about sexual immorality. There was a story at the, at the time, a couple of years ago,

00:05:26.340 where he was saying that he wasn't letting his staff that was working on a project, not only

00:05:31.180 not engage in homosexuality, but also not engage in any kind of sexual activity outside of marriage.

00:05:39.460 So, I mean, that's especially crazy and unique for Hollywood from a Hollywood perspective. And so

00:05:47.000 there were a lot of things to kind of be excited about when it came to Kanye West and his seeming

00:05:52.600 about face. And also there were some things that caused people like me to say, oh, Kanye, when he

00:05:59.220 got up on stage with Joel Osteen, who I believe to be a false teacher who gives a prosperity gospel

00:06:06.580 that is simply not in line with scripture. But we kind of just said, you know what? Sanctification

00:06:13.060 is not a straight line from A to B. May the Lord give him discernment. I would say it's very kind of

00:06:20.520 difficult to have that large of a platform and to go from not being a Christian to being a Christian

00:06:28.280 and to change and all of that stuff. But then over the past couple of years, it has kind of

00:06:35.240 a lot of things seem to unravel. And while I can't judge Kanye West Hart, none of us can. We can't

00:06:43.180 judge the state of his soul. We there have been obviously some troubling things over the past couple

00:06:51.700 of years, and we don't have to get into all of that. We also found out that him and Kim Kardashian

00:06:56.660 got a divorce. They have four children together. And so divorce is always just kind of a sad,

00:07:02.820 destructive thing for in most circumstances. And no matter what the reason is, there is always

00:07:10.440 something to mourn, I think, about broken marriages. And so that was sad. But over the past few months,

00:07:17.140 there have been some things. There have been some things that you've seen the right cheer over.

00:07:21.560 And now over the past couple of days, or I would say week or so, things have really devolved

00:07:27.060 with Kanye West, who now goes by yay, to the point to where no one really on either side has

00:07:33.740 any reason or any desire to defend him. And that is because he has made some positive comments about

00:07:42.340 Hitler. And so let's get into all of that. Let's kind of fast forward and skip over some of the crazy 0.89

00:07:49.940 posts and things like that, that have gone out over the past couple years and just look at

00:07:54.740 this particular firestorm over the past couple of weeks and even over the past month or so. So I'll

00:08:01.560 break that down. All right, so let's back up a little bit beginning of October, Kanye West posted a

00:08:17.060 picture with Candace Owens with a shirt on that said white lives matter. I've got no problem with 1.00

00:08:21.800 that statement. White lives do matter. All lives matter. And I know people have a hard time with

00:08:27.820 anyone saying that all lives matter. But that is a biblically true statement that every single person

00:08:32.700 is made in the image of God. There is not one life that matters more than others. I understand the

00:08:38.620 defense, the argument from the pro-Black Lives Matter crowd that's saying, yes, all lives do matter.

00:08:43.980 But in this country, Black lives are undervalued and they are mistreated systemically because of

00:08:49.780 their skin color. And so we have to say specifically that Black Lives Matter in order to raise awareness

00:08:55.380 about the mistreatment of Black Americans. However, I think that most of the arguments that Black Lives 1.00

00:09:01.800 Matter advocates put out as evidence that the disparities in this country between the races are

00:09:08.020 because of systemic racism and mistreatment are just not good arguments that are based on fact.

00:09:13.040 And we've gone through that many times on this podcast. So you can go back and listen to some

00:09:19.460 of those episodes if you want to. So I have no problem with them saying white lives matter. 1.00

00:09:23.600 I don't know if they were trying to make, you know, particular waves or statement or whatever,

00:09:27.900 but it's a legitimate and it's a true biblically and factually true statement. And then also,

00:09:36.860 Candace has done a lot of work to uncover the corruption in the Black Lives Matter organization, 0.96

00:09:42.560 how they have just taken millions and millions of dollars and not applied those dollars at all

00:09:46.960 to fixing the supposed problems that Black Lives Matter says exist, but rather just lining their own 0.97

00:09:54.360 pockets. And so I don't know if this had to do with that, but they posted this picture. It said

00:10:00.060 white lives matter. Tucker Carlson had yay Kanye West on his show. He said that he said some things about 0.53

00:10:12.320 Jewish people and this has ended up being a theme. He said, when I refer to Jews, I mean, the 12 lost

00:10:17.600 tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ to the people, people known as the race black really are. He said 0.98

00:10:23.920 that he cannot be called anti-Semitic because as a Black person, he is really a Jew. Apparently, 0.88

00:10:32.080 there were a lot of things that he said in that interview behind the scenes that did not actually

00:10:36.740 make it past the cutting floor because a lot of them had to do with Jewish people and a lot of

00:10:42.840 conspiracies about Black people being the real Jews. And as we've talked about before, like that

00:10:49.840 is a doctrine of a cult called Black Hebrew Israelites, who they're a Black nationalist, 0.72

00:10:56.820 Black supremacist cult that believes that Black people are the real chosen people of God, that they 0.72

00:11:04.020 are the real Jews, that they are real Israel. And they often say that the so-called white Jews are 0.96

00:11:11.360 just frauds, that they've kind of taken over the chosen identity of these real genuine Black Jews, 0.98

00:11:17.280 and they've kind of co-opted the oppression and the chosen and the chosenness of real Black Hebrew 0.75

00:11:25.440 Israelites. And so Kanye West is kind of borrowing from that rhetoric. But this also is a similar line

00:11:34.360 of thinking to what Louis Farrakhan has to say, who is a Nation of Islam leader, which is also a Black

00:11:42.320 supremacist group that demonizes Jewish people, and again, believes that Black people are God's real

00:11:49.220 chosen people, and that white people and Jewish white people that everyone else has led to the 0.99

00:11:56.260 oppression of the real chosen race of Black people. So Kanye West is borrowing theology from a lot of

00:12:04.980 different Black supremacist groups, which I would not say that he would call himself a Black

00:12:10.200 supremacist. Obviously, he wore a shirt saying white lives matter. But I'm just telling you that

00:12:15.460 these doctrines that he is repeating don't just come from nowhere, that they actually have a basis

00:12:21.760 in what some groups in this country believe. So a few days, or I guess a day after that interview

00:12:30.460 came out with Tucker Carlson, Kanye tweeted, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going 0.97

00:12:35.600 death con three on Jewish people. The funny thing is, I actually can't be anti-Semitic because Black 0.98

00:12:39.660 people are actually Jew. Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone whoever 0.66

00:12:44.560 opposes your agenda. So I believe that got him temporarily suspended. A lot of people were like,

00:12:54.400 what in the world are you talking about? Death con on Jewish people? Why are you saying that? He then 0.98

00:13:00.780 went on a show, a very popular show called Drink Champs. The interview was posted, then it was

00:13:11.180 removed on October 16th, where Kanye blamed Jewish media and Jewish Zionists for several misdeeds,

00:13:18.440 including, he says, Jewish people have owned the Black voice, the Jewish community, especially in the

00:13:23.420 music industry. They'll take us and milk us till we die. During an interview with Chris Cuomo on News 0.99

00:13:31.440 Nation on October 17th, Kanye criticized the Jewish underground media mafia and said every celebrity

00:13:37.740 has Jewish people in their contract. He also claimed his life was threatened by his Jewish manager's

00:13:43.100 lawyer and accountant due to his political beliefs. So here's the thing is that I have no idea of all of

00:13:48.480 these people in Kanye's life are Jewish. It may be true that he has a Jewish manager and Jewish people

00:13:57.080 in his life that have had a negative impact on him, or that there are a lot of Jewish people in

00:14:02.540 Hollywood or a lot of Jewish people in the music industry that have had a negative influence on his 1.00

00:14:11.240 life or on his friends' lives. That's not the conspiracy theory part of this. The conspiracy theory part is

00:14:17.280 because, say that is true, because that is true, that that is indicative of how Jewish people are

00:14:22.880 inherently, or how Jewish people are in general, that it has something to do with these people's

00:14:29.920 Judaism that makes them bad people. It might be true that Kanye has Jewish people in his life who 1.00

00:14:35.460 have been bad people or who have screwed him over. That's not really the question. The thing that he is 0.59

00:14:41.880 putting forth, the conspiratorial part of this, the strange part of this, that the bad part of this 0.97

00:14:47.900 is saying that it is because they are Jewish and Jewish people in general are a negative influence and 0.97

00:14:54.360 have come together to strip Black people systemically and purposely of their money and of their power. 0.95

00:15:03.300 And then that leads us to a new association that Kanye West has with commentator, podcast host, 0.52

00:15:12.940 I think it's a podcast or a live stream host, Nick Fuentes. They apparently formed a friendship

00:15:19.100 and they met with Donald Trump. So that's a new stage in this narrative that we'll get into

00:15:24.540 in just a second. All right, so this is according to NBC. On November 25th, Donald Trump hosted Kanye

00:15:41.240 West and Nick Fuentes at a private dinner at his Mar-a-Lago home. According to sources, Trump and

00:15:46.680 West had planned to have a private uneventful dinner after weeks of private phone conversations. Kanye

00:15:52.260 allegedly arrived to the private dinner with three unknown to Trump guests, including Nick Fuentes.

00:15:59.720 Now, Nick Fuentes, he was kicked off Twitter a long time ago. I don't remember what his final infraction

00:16:06.360 was. He also has a lot of thoughts about Jewish people and that has been covered extensively by

00:16:14.340 different outlets. And so Nick Fuentes has also been a very big fan of Donald Trump. So I guess Kanye

00:16:24.260 brought Nick Fuentes along. Like I said, I don't really totally know. Maybe you guys do. Maybe you've

00:16:30.160 done a little bit more digging than I have. This story has so many different parts. I haven't

00:16:34.060 been able to look into every single detail. Maybe you guys know how Nick Fuentes and Kanye West got

00:16:39.540 together. I don't know if it was Milo Yiannopoulos, who is another like component of all of this. So

00:16:47.180 Kanye brings Nick along to Mar-a-Lago to have dinner with Donald Trump, who had just recently

00:16:54.480 announced that he is running for the presidency in 2024. And Kanye has also announced, it's another

00:17:01.940 part of this, that he says that he is running for president in 2024. And that I think it's true

00:17:08.480 that Milo Yiannopoulos is going to like run Kanye's campaign. I mean, this is just a timeline

00:17:17.340 that I never, I really did not see coming. And so apparently West like came to Trump and asked Trump

00:17:25.400 at this Mar-a-Lago meeting to be his running mate in 2024. Whether he was kidding or not, I'm not

00:17:34.020 really sure. But that apparently didn't go over well with Donald Trump. And then you've got Nick

00:17:41.740 Fuentes, who was a big fan of Trump, like apparently winning Trump over. There are conflicting reports

00:17:50.020 there. People are saying that Trump was really impressed with Nick Fuentes, really liked Nick

00:17:54.960 Fuentes. But then Trump made a statement after this meeting saying, I didn't know this person. I didn't

00:17:59.600 really talk to this person at all. And so there is some conflict there. And I also just did get a

00:18:05.540 message, by the way, from my producer saying that Milo has just stepped down from Kanye West's

00:18:11.120 campaign. There were some messages that came out, some alleged messages that came out from Milo

00:18:17.520 that said things about Kanye being gay. I don't know if those messages were real or not. Guys,

00:18:23.760 there's just so much. There's so there's so much here. There's so many things going on in this story.

00:18:31.820 So people were understandably upset. Conservatives and even Trump supporters were understandably upset

00:18:37.980 with the association that apparently Trump was having with Nick Fuentes. Another layer of this is

00:18:45.440 that Nick Fuentes, like really doesn't like and has done a lot of harassment towards like Turning

00:18:54.540 Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization. And obviously, Charlie Kirk and the president or the former

00:19:01.380 President Trump, like have a relationship there. I think it's very possible that Trump did not know

00:19:07.640 who Nick Fuentes was, did not know all of the negative associations, did not know of the very

00:19:13.400 understandable issue that like Turning Point has with Nick Fuentes and like the past history there.

00:19:22.260 And that Trump probably was taken with what a lot of Nick Fuentes was saying and how much Nick Fuentes

00:19:30.860 liked him. So he probably was in the dark previously, didn't realize that the interaction would produce

00:19:37.600 this kind of backlash. I don't have any special insight into what went on behind the scenes there.

00:19:42.780 But just kind of putting together some things, some things that I that I know.

00:19:53.000 So Donald Trump says this past week, Kanye West called me to have dinner at Mar-a-Lago.

00:19:57.600 Shortly thereafter, he unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends who I knew nothing about.

00:20:01.240 We had dinner on Tuesday evening with many members present on the back patio.

00:20:04.140 The dinner was quick and uneventful. They then left for the airport.

00:20:07.200 Yay, formerly known as Kanye West, was asking me for advice concerning some of his difficulties

00:20:11.160 in particular having to do with his business. We also discussed to a lesser extent politics,

00:20:14.960 where I told him he should definitely not run for president. Any voters you may have should vote

00:20:18.960 for Trump. I'm sure I'm sure that is a true interaction that Trump said. Anyway, we got along

00:20:23.480 great. He expressed no anti-Semitism. And I appreciate all the nice things he said about me

00:20:26.880 on Tucker Carlson. Why wouldn't I agree to me? Also, I didn't know Nick Fuentes. He then goes on to say,

00:20:33.120 Trump says, so I help a seriously troubled man who just happens to be black. Yay. Who has been decimated in his 0.97

00:20:38.540 business and virtually everything else. And who has always been good to me by allowing his request

00:20:42.740 for a meeting at Mar-a-Lago alone so that I can give him very much needed advice. He puts that in

00:20:47.500 scare quotes for some reason. He shows up with three people, two of which I didn't know. And

00:20:53.080 the other, a political person who I haven't seen in years, I told him don't run for office,

00:20:57.340 a total waste of time. Can't win. Fake news went crazy. All right. So that happened. And then Kanye West

00:21:03.280 was on TimCast. Tim Pool, very popular YouTuber, podcaster. I've been on his show. I was on a show

00:21:10.880 a couple months ago. Kanye West went on Tim Pool's show along with Nick Fuentes. And I guess Milo

00:21:19.760 Yiannopoulos. Milo Yiannopoulos was on it too. Okay. I don't think I realized that. And so there were a

00:21:24.480 lot of things that were said. You can go listen to or watch that. But one thing that Kanye said,

00:21:29.780 he said, I just got to go right to the heart of this anti-Semite claim that's happening. This is

00:21:34.100 something, if you read the definition, it says you can't claim that there's multiple people inside of

00:21:37.800 banks or in media that are all Jewish and you're anti-Semitic. And that's the truth. Like it's the 0.98

00:21:42.220 truth. And so he is referring to the definition, like the government's definition of anti-Semitism,

00:21:48.780 which apparently includes saying that there are a lot of Jewish people inside particular industries.

00:21:55.080 Then Kanye says, I'm saying like I've been labeled anti-Semite, right? So there's different

00:21:59.180 beliefs about our bloodlines, you know, like the documentary that Kyrie Irving posted. And in

00:22:03.500 general, America has been left ignorant and history has been changed. So when we start questioning

00:22:08.240 things that question the indoctrination, then you immediately get, you know, demonized and monetized.

00:22:13.000 And what's so beautiful about this time is everyone got to see what's really been happening. And now we

00:22:18.420 can really understand. We can see that Rahm Emanuel was next to Obama and Jared Kushner was right next

00:22:23.260 to Trump. So he's talking about the Jewish influence over these presidents. And so then

00:22:32.580 there was, well, let me read you this interaction and then I'll show you kind of how this conversation

00:22:37.700 ended up with Tim Pool kind of pressing Kanye on a lot of these accusations. Tim Pool said,

00:22:45.180 you went right to the anti-Semite thing. I think it's something that should be talked about. But if you

00:22:49.320 start bringing this up, you're going to ask my opinion about it. I'm going to disagree with you.

00:22:53.220 Wes said, I didn't ask your opinion on it. I don't care about anybody's opinion, bro. I lost.

00:22:57.520 They tried to put me in jail. They blocked the $2 billion I had. Like when I told Louis Farrakhan,

00:23:02.220 the Jewish people allowed Obama to meet with the minister, you know, you're not going to take my

00:23:05.820 pain away, right? The Jewish people say that it's the Holocaust. This happened. You can't say anything

00:23:09.800 about it. We can't take their pain away. No one's going to denounce the fact that they tried to lock me up

00:23:14.280 because every time I'm just holding stride and it's like, I thought it was more Malcolm X,

00:23:18.880 but I find out I'm more MLK because I'm getting hosed down every day by the press and financially,

00:23:23.640 I'm just standing there. And when I found out that they tried to put me in jail, it was like a dog

00:23:28.840 was biting my arm and I almost shed a tear almost, but I still walked in stride through it. And Poole

00:23:35.460 said, I think they've been extremely unfair to you. And then here's where it goes. Wes says,

00:23:41.540 who is they though? We can't say who is they. And Poole, and I, you know, agree with this in a lot of ways,

00:23:48.880 you know, a couple months ago, I do think that the press was being unfair to, or even just like

00:23:55.860 over the last couple of years, unfair to Kanye because he seemed to have become a Christian

00:24:00.160 because he supported Donald Trump. Like, I do think that they held him to such a higher standard

00:24:04.540 than they would hold any other hip hop artists when it comes to morality and the things that

00:24:08.120 they say, simply because he expressed heterodox opinions. But now we have him saying things like

00:24:15.220 this. And then some of the criticism that he is getting is very much justified. And Poole kind

00:24:21.360 of presses into this. So Wes says, who is they? Who has been unfair to me? And Poole says, the press,

00:24:26.500 I don't use the word they as the way you, I guess you guys I'm talking about. And then Fuentes says,

00:24:33.260 isn't it them though? And what they're talking about here is Jewish people. So here's how this

00:24:37.400 interaction went down. I'll play a clip of it.

00:24:39.720 I think they've been extremely unfair to you. I think. Who was they though? We can't say

00:24:44.360 who they is, can we? Corporate press. I'm not using the, I don't use the word as the way

00:24:47.740 I guess you guys use, I'm talking about. It is them though, isn't it? I mean, because

00:24:51.460 when you think about it, consider it. In 2018. What do you mean it's not? What do I mean?

00:24:57.420 Like, okay, so how about, are you leaving? Are you afraid of the press? He's gone.

00:25:06.080 All right. So Kanye West walks out and then Tim Poole says, you guys want to bring that stuff up

00:25:14.820 and think we're not going to have a conversation. You think he's going to come in here and say,

00:25:18.240 here's my pain, here's my suffering. And I say, I hear you. And then he's going to say,

00:25:21.580 and it was Jewish people. And I'm going to be like, okay, but you didn't consider.

00:25:24.920 I'm not going to do this. I refuse. I can't say I'm surprised. What did I even do other than ask him

00:25:30.540 to please elaborate on this? Are you referring to individuals or are you quite literally blaming an entire

00:25:35.080 group of people for the fact that powerful individuals are causing you harm? Which goes

00:25:38.640 back to exactly what I said earlier. It's one thing to say that all these individuals are causing me

00:25:42.760 harm. I think that can be true. It's another thing to say that they are causing me harm because they

00:25:47.180 are in this particular group, this particular ethnicity, and all people of this ethnicity are

00:25:51.120 doing that. And so I think that that is what Poole is trying to parse out. He is trying to decide,

00:25:56.000 okay, what exactly are you saying and trying to kind of understand? Well, that conversation

00:26:00.880 kind of ended up and ended up in a, you know, I would say from one point of view in a, like a

00:26:09.420 chaotic way, I think Tim Poole did a great job. It is not easy hosting one, just that many people,

00:26:14.940 period, but that many people who are lightning rods in a lot of ways. And as I've said before,

00:26:19.760 I know a lot of people claim to really understand everything that Kanye West says. It's like they're

00:26:25.720 a big fan of him. So they've been following him for years. They understand kind of,

00:26:29.300 or they feel like they understand what's going on in his mind. They can kind of interpret all of

00:26:33.300 his lyrics, interpret all of his tweets, interpret all of the comments that he says and kind of piece

00:26:37.640 them together. I do not have the superpower of being able to do that. I am not going to pretend to be

00:26:42.980 like some Kanye West understander or interpreter. It's really difficult for me to make sense of a lot

00:26:50.720 of what he says. But then in other times, he's really clear. Like when he is on Alex Jones's

00:26:56.240 interview and he makes some comments about Hitler that understandably got a lot of a lot of attention.

00:27:04.880 So on December 1st, a few days ago, Kanye West and Nick Fuentes appeared on Alex Jones's show

00:27:09.900 Info Wars and began praising Adolf Hitler. This is according to the Daily Beast. The Daily Beast

00:27:14.740 sometimes reports things. Interestingly, the Daily Beast says began praising Adolf Hitler within

00:27:21.060 the first 30 minutes on the show. First, Alex Jones tried to defend the rapper's recent streak of

00:27:25.600 anti-Semitic remarks by saying, you're not Hitler. You're not a Nazi. So you don't deserve to be

00:27:31.800 demonized. That's what Alex Jones said. And then Kanye responded. Well, I'll just go ahead and play

00:27:37.880 the clip of how Kanye responded to this. I don't think Hitler was a good guy. I get the Hugo Boss 0.69

00:27:44.100 uniforms. Amazing. But I mean, just because you're in love with the design, you're a designer. Can we just

00:27:49.160 kind of say like you like to you like the uniforms, but that's about it? No, we know. There's a lot of

00:27:55.060 things that I love about Hitler. A lot of things. Okay, if you can't see me right now, I have my face

00:28:08.320 in my hands. What? Okay, so he also said this. He says, well, I see good things about Hitler. The Jews, 0.99

00:28:15.460 I love everyone, and the Jewish people are not going to tell me you can love us, and you can love what we are 0.82

00:28:21.020 doing to you with the contracts, and you can love what we are pushing with the pornography. But this guy

00:28:27.020 that invented highways, invented the very microphone that I use as a musician, you can't say out loud that this

00:28:31.800 person ever did anything good. He's talking about Hitler. And I am done with that. I am done with the 0.98

00:28:36.000 classifications. Every human being has value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler. 0.92

00:28:41.920 Okay, so Alex Jones, if you watch this interview, like he is very uncomfortable. So Kanye West is

00:28:51.240 making Alex Jones uncomfortable by being so controversial, if you can even call it that,

00:28:58.500 like that's the most charitable adjective that you can use to describe what he is saying.

00:29:05.080 It's actually just wicked and demonic. And actually, if you're not watching and you haven't seen it,

00:29:12.080 he is wearing like a black mask over his entire face. So like Jones tried to steer him away from

00:29:21.700 his support of Hitler when you heard him saying, oh, no, you're just saying that you like the uniforms.

00:29:25.720 That's because in another clip, Kanye was like, was saying how much he liked Hitler's like architecture

00:29:33.600 and like liked the uniforms that were designed. And so West then claimed that there's a Jewish

00:29:41.660 mafia, the Jewish people control Hollywood, and that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 1.00

00:29:46.760 wants to take Kanye's children away. West also prompted Fuentes repeatedly to launch

00:29:52.640 anti-Semitic attacks. These are the words of the Daily Beast, such as asking whether Jews support

00:30:00.780 pedophilia. Jones at one point said, I don't like Nazis, to which West replied, I like Hitler. 0.80

00:30:11.920 All right. And so we've got that. And then he was kicked off Twitter for saying,

00:30:22.400 a lot of similar things. And you'll remember that Kanye and Elon Musk have been in the past,

00:30:27.860 like they've been friends. And after Kanye was suspended, when Musk took over, he did allow

00:30:34.120 Kanye West to get back on Twitter, but it didn't take long for him to be re-suspended.

00:30:40.980 All right. So this is according to Variety, which, by the way, for a mainstream outlet,

00:30:56.760 I've always found that Variety does a pretty good job in fairly reporting things just in general.

00:31:04.440 So this is the headline. Twitter suspends Kanye West after swastika tweet for incitement of violence,

00:31:08.320 Musk says. So Elon Musk kicked Kanye West off Twitter after the rapper entrepreneur tweeted

00:31:13.200 an image of a Nazi swastika embedded inside the Star of David. So the tweet says,

00:31:19.600 yay24, love everyone, hashtag love speech. And it is a picture of a computer screen.

00:31:25.280 I guess it's on Adobe Photoshop where someone created what I guess Kanye West is saying that

00:31:31.100 he thinks is a good design. And it is a Star of David. And in the middle of the Star of David

00:31:35.320 is a swastika. Like this really makes my stomach churn. It kind of makes my like heartbeat a little

00:31:41.040 bit faster. It's scary to me. I mean, it's it's really, really, really disturbing. Elon Musk said

00:31:48.080 late Thursday that West's account was suspended for incitement of violence. West's boo from Twitter,

00:31:53.600 where he had more than 32 million followers, came after he unleashed a string of bizarre and

00:31:57.020 antisemitic tweets Thursday evening, including the swastika image with the text, yay24, love everyone.

00:32:01.640 West's seemingly final tweet storm came after he appeared earlier in the day on Alex Jones's

00:32:06.240 InfoWars show where West praised Adolf Hitler and made antisemitic remarks. Shortly after that,

00:32:10.220 Parler announced that West's deal to buy the social network had been terminated because he was buying it

00:32:15.160 from George Farmer, Candace Owens, his husband. And so that has now fallen through on, you know,

00:32:24.000 Parler said no, because I guess of Kanye West's remarks. West, who now goes by the name yay,

00:32:28.780 has previously claimed he lost $2 million in business deals over his hateful anti-Jewish

00:32:33.680 comments, including losing his Adidas deal. Yay has claimed he will run for president of the

00:32:38.340 United States in 2024. West, in a Twitter post captioned, well, everyone, we had a nice run.

00:32:43.180 Jesus is king shared what was purportedly a text exchange with Musk in which Musk had said about

00:32:50.080 the image. Sorry, but you have gone too far. This is not love. According to a screenshot of the

00:32:54.100 conversation, West responded, who made you the judge? Twitter removed

00:32:58.060 that that tweet and West's original swastika post prior to the suspension of the Kanye West

00:33:06.240 account. And then West subsequently posted a photo of Musk on a luxury yacht in Greece getting sprayed

00:33:12.760 by with a hose by Endeavor CEO Ari Emanuel. West wrote, let's always remember this is my final

00:33:21.220 tweet. That Musk replied, that is fine, but responded apparently in reply to West now

00:33:27.040 deleted tweet with the swastika image. This is not. And the reason I guess that Kanye

00:33:35.220 posted a picture of Elon Musk, I think for a couple of reasons. One, you know, people are saying

00:33:41.440 this is an embarrassing picture of Elon Musk. He's really pale, whatever. It's not the most flattering

00:33:46.800 like facial expression that he's making. But I think it seems like the bigger point that Kanye is

00:33:51.500 trying to make is that Ari Emanuel, the other person in that photo, I believe is Jewish. And so I guess

00:33:57.480 his argument is that, look, you've even got Jewish people that are influencing people like Elon Musk.

00:34:03.500 In a follow up tweet, Musk wrote, just clarifying that West's account is being suspended for incitement

00:34:07.640 to violence, not an unflattering pick of me posed by Ari. The tech mogul also wrote, I tried my best.

00:34:13.120 Despite that, he again, violated our rule against incitement to violence account will be suspended.

00:34:20.740 And so Kanye West still has his Instagram account. And he posted this on Instagram,

00:34:27.400 which, again, very strange. Am I the only one who thinks Elon could be half Chinese? Have you ever

00:34:33.640 seen his pics as a child? Take a Chinese genius and mate them with a South African supermodel. And we have 0.98

00:34:39.720 an Elon. I say an Elon because they probably made 10 to 30 Elons. And he's the first genetic hybrid

00:34:45.420 that stuck. Well, let's not forget about Obama. I'm sorry for using curse words in church, but I

00:34:50.780 don't have another word for Obama yet. Yay, 24. Let's unify and find out. L-U-A-F-O. And then the

00:34:59.020 caption says, on Jay-Z's birthday, future president of the United States, yay, uses Mark Zuckerberg's

00:35:05.640 platform to incite a mass investigation of Elon Musk's childhood photos in the midst of Balenciaga

00:35:10.660 gate. I call this the theory of everything problem solved. Praise God. Oh, my gosh. I totally forgot

00:35:16.180 about like one of the most important things to me that was that like one of the craziest things that

00:35:23.320 Kanye said on Twitter was that he made a comment. Can you find this? Made a comment supporting

00:35:32.700 Balenciaga. And when I get it, I will read it to you. But basically just saying, you know,

00:35:38.320 cancel culture has taken over Balenciaga and he supports Balenciaga. Balenciaga, I believe,

00:35:44.160 had just cut ties with him like a while ago for his comments that they that they described as

00:35:51.720 antisemitic. And but then he went back to defend them. And if you don't know what happened with

00:35:57.940 Balenciaga, definitely go back and listen, listen to or watch last week's episode on that where they

00:36:04.780 have been in the midst of accusations of child exploitation and just really, really gross

00:36:10.260 associations with people who have capitalized on the sexualization of children. And here Kanye West is

00:36:16.920 defending them on Twitter. So a lot, a lot of layers to this story, a lot of strange parts to this story.

00:36:25.700 I also saw that people, Kanye fans were apparently like apologizing to Taylor Swift because they had

00:36:35.220 a feud that goes back many years after she was accepting an award and Kanye West interrupted her

00:36:40.720 speech and was like, I'm gonna let you finish. But Beyonce deserves this award, which is an extremely

00:36:45.840 obnoxious and rude thing to do, by the way. And so they had that conflict. And some people are saying,

00:36:52.360 oh, you know, like Taylor Swift, she's remained, you know, they think unproblematic and that Kanye gets

00:37:00.280 the or she gets the last laugh here. So that is basically everything that is going on with the

00:37:09.500 Kanye West thing. Another thing that I wanted to say about the Instagram post where he says that

00:37:13.160 Elon could be half Chinese, which, OK, like, what does that even mean? That's very similar to

00:37:19.060 something that Trump just said. And I don't know if that's purposeful. But Trump released a bizarre

00:37:25.560 statement about Ron DeSantis and also included Glenn Youngkin in that statement about about him a couple

00:37:37.300 weeks ago, where Trump separated the syllables and Glenn Youngkin's last name and said Youngkin.

00:37:46.440 Doesn't that sound Chinese? Very strange. These are very strange people. Now, what I haven't 1.00

00:37:53.120 mentioned in all of this is that we do know that Kanye West, like I wouldn't say this if he hadn't

00:37:57.940 been diagnosed, but he has been public about his mental health diagnosis. I believe it's bipolar

00:38:03.380 disorder, which is not something that I ever want to make light of, which I also think is at play here.

00:38:13.340 Now, I don't know how much. I don't know his personal medical history, and I don't really want

00:38:17.760 to guess about that. But I think that that also plays a part. And so there is some sadness to be

00:38:25.460 had here. I think there is some pity, not in the sense of like, oh, he is a victim and that's why he's

00:38:33.440 making these statements. But there is some sadness to see someone seemingly kind of just spiral out of

00:38:40.600 control here and no longer make any sense that I see. Okay, let me read you the Balenciaga tweets.

00:38:49.320 I stand by Balenciaga and denounce all witch hunts and I cancel cancel culture. Jesus is king. Ending

00:38:54.200 trafficking doesn't start or end with a fashion campaign for Christ's sake. So Jesus is king and

00:39:00.180 also using the Lord's name in vain and the same tweet that he is supporting the company who very

00:39:04.740 clearly exploited children, which is also strange because Kanye West has like spoken out about the

00:39:10.820 sexualization of children in the fashion industry. He says, God loves Balenciaga. Don't think that's

00:39:16.800 true. Love is the answer. Jesus is the answer. Praying for all the innocent artists and beautiful

00:39:21.560 humans who make clothing that had nothing to do with the ads. People's grandmothers work there for 1.00

00:39:26.180 Christ's sake. Okay, I don't wish harm on people's grandmothers or on people who didn't have anything

00:39:35.340 to do with the evil that was an ad campaign that we talked about last week. That doesn't mean that

00:39:41.380 a company shouldn't get criticism for pairing children with BDSM trinkets. Weird. He says,

00:39:48.820 never turn our backs. Demna and the Balenciaga family for life. Cancel, cancel culture. Jesus, 0.94

00:39:54.000 please heal. You know, I'm not, if you want to call it cancel culture, I don't care. I think that

00:39:58.780 my thoughts about that have some, well, first of all, I don't think that it's really what we refer

00:40:04.960 to as cancel culture. I was going to say my thoughts have somewhat changed in that, but I don't think

00:40:12.140 that you should cancel someone for saying something politically incorrect or saying something that you

00:40:16.000 find offensive 10 years ago or that you just personally find offensive, period, or holding political

00:40:22.060 or moral views that you don't purposely like or you find distasteful. I don't think people should be

00:40:28.480 canceled or punished for those things, but I don't believe that there should be no accountability or

00:40:33.920 no punishment or no boycotts or no backlash for child sex exploitation. And so sure, if you want to

00:40:41.000 call that cancel culture, then yeah, I do believe that child exploiters should be cancel cultured. I do.

00:40:47.200 And so you can call that whatever you want to. But yeah, I believe that that should be canceled.

00:40:54.460 And he says, remove any and all forms of pornography from Twitter and every platform.

00:40:58.120 Pornography is a product of pedophilia. When grown men look at porn, they're watching someone's

00:41:01.600 daughter relive trauma for money. Now that is extremely true. That is a very true tweet. I wish

00:41:08.560 that was the only thing that he had said over the past like year. That is very true. And so obviously

00:41:15.860 he's got a lot of different things going on in his mind. I absolutely agree about pornography. And

00:41:22.520 just like as a note, Elon Musk reportedly under his leadership, they have removed thousands and

00:41:29.520 thousands and thousands of images and videos of child sex abuse material. Really disturbing that

00:41:38.460 that even exists. Really disturbing that apparently it could be very easily removed and Twitter before

00:41:43.540 wasn't doing anything. So that is the entire thing on Kanye West. And I did not plan to just talk about

00:41:53.920 the Kanye West stuff. I have a lot of other things to say. I wanted to talk about the 303 creative

00:41:59.140 Supreme Court case. We'll have to talk about that later this week, the euthanasia and Canada, that

00:42:04.020 movement. We're going to talk about that. A former transgender Navy SEAL now detransitioning, 0.92

00:42:10.460 saying that he was basically propagandized into transitioning. Planned Parenthood sex education

00:42:18.040 director claims that children are born sexual. Man, a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff to talk about.

00:42:25.120 But this ended up taking an entire episode to break down. And because a lot of you were curious about

00:42:29.920 that, I did the best that I could. Man, there again are so many different pieces to this. So many

00:42:34.280 different people, so many different layers, so many different avenues, nooks and crannies,

00:42:39.120 and so many things that I wasn't even able to cover. But just to kind of give you an overview,

00:42:44.140 a big picture of what's going down, here you go. And you can kind of research all of the individuals

00:42:50.200 who are playing a part in this and look at the statements and listen to and watch the interviews

00:42:54.320 yourself. If you really want to go in and do a deep dive here.

00:43:09.340 All right, here's one thing I do want to say.

00:43:11.140 You do not, you are not required to make an announcement or denouncement

00:43:22.440 about everything that happens. Like I see a lot of people saying, have you renounced this person?

00:43:32.280 Have you denounced this person? Have you made a statement about this? I mean, maybe some people

00:43:37.880 should be expected to, should be required to. But just because there is someone out there who does

00:43:44.400 or says something wicked, who happened to vote maybe for the same person that you voted for,

00:43:49.980 or who has an association with someone that you really like and support.

00:43:55.980 Just because someone says something that's bad does not mean that you are obligated to like

00:44:01.740 make a statement about your feelings about it. It's like, of course, of course you hate

00:44:09.140 antisemitism. Of course you hate hatred of anyone who is made in the image of God. Of course you think

00:44:15.420 actual conspiracy theories are wrong. Like, of course, like not everyone has to make some

00:44:22.260 formal statement about denouncing this or denouncing that. I mean, people who know you

00:44:27.880 know where you stand on these issues and people who don't know you are going to assume or who don't

00:44:35.340 like you are going to assume the most nefarious things about you anyway. They're going to pick

00:44:41.140 apart everything that you say. They're not going to be satisfied by any statement that you make.

00:44:46.100 And so I just, I think a lot of people feel pressure anytime something bad happens or anytime someone

00:44:51.760 says something that is awful to like make sure to, you know, it's basically like putting blood over

00:44:57.500 your house over the Passover, like post a black square or say something. Sure, you can. But it 0.99

00:45:05.140 does not make you a better or worse person. You do not have to, like, you shouldn't feel obligated to

00:45:13.320 like put out this canned answer to make sure that people still know that you are virtuous. If they know

00:45:20.080 you, Christian, they understand what you believe about everyone being made in the image of God. They

00:45:26.380 understand what you believe about the gospel. They understand what you believe about loving your

00:45:31.560 neighbor. And really what I'm trying to say is that it really shouldn't just come down to like

00:45:36.000 one statement you make. It should really come down to like how you live your life and the things you say

00:45:42.300 throughout your life. And again, the people who are bent on misunderstanding you and not liking you in

00:45:49.240 general, your statements are never going to be enough. I think there's a lot of pressure from the

00:45:54.500 virtue signal world to say exactly the right thing. So people will put you in a particular category that

00:46:00.700 makes you feel good about yourself. But true life, it is not measured by your virtue signaling, but virtue

00:46:09.420 should be measured by actual virtue. What is in your heart, your thoughts, your words, your life, and how

00:46:16.120 you conduct yourself and treat people on a daily basis. Now, I will say, and this is not a statement,

00:46:23.600 this is just an observation and a thought that I have that like, it would really, I think it really 0.80

00:46:28.360 sucks right now. It probably feels really bad right now to be a Jewish person in America who feels like 0.66

00:46:35.860 you are under extra scrutiny because everyone is talking about these things. And you've got one of the

00:46:41.800 most like powerful people, most influential people in the world posting a swastika. I mean, that doesn't

00:46:47.700 feel good. In a way, I think Christians kind of, Christians understand what it is like to have like

00:46:58.500 your symbols like the cross mocked. But obviously, when it comes to putting a swastika in a star of

00:47:06.140 David, I mean, that's a very threatening symbol that brings up a lot of fresh feelings, I think,

00:47:13.800 of understandable fear. And so that concerns me. And that makes me sad. It really does. It puts a pit in my

00:47:23.180 stomach. It's an unfortunate conversation that we have to be having. And it's really a crazy timeline when it

00:47:28.160 comes to Kanye West and his kind of political pursuits. I just can't say that I assumed, or that I guessed

00:47:34.800 that this is kind of where it would go. But I'm interested to hear your thoughts. I know that I'm going to have

00:47:40.080 some interesting perspectives from you guys who maybe maybe you've been following it even more

00:47:45.920 closely than I have. You probably have because I was kind of late to even looking into all of this

00:47:51.680 stuff. And so let me know your thoughts. Leave a comment. If you love this podcast, leave us a five

00:47:56.660 star review. Subscribe on YouTube if you haven't already. Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow talking

00:48:01.260 about all the rest of the stuff that I wanted to discuss today and didn't get to. See you guys then.

00:48:10.080 See you guys then.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - December 05, 2022

Ep 718 ｜ Kanye Praises Hitler & Defends Balenciaga

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