SHNEAKO - May 31, 2021


The China Mac Interview


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35 minutes

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7,551

Sentence count

63

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Misogyny

13

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Toxicity

208

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Hate speech

95

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On this episode of the WDFA Podcast, we have a special guest on the show, a rapper and content creator known as . He is known for his rapping, producing, and producing music. In this episode, we talk about how he got started in the music industry, how he started making music, and how he became a content creator.

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00:00:00.000 what's good china mac where you coming from i'm coming from woodstock right now that's deep that's
00:00:06.080 super deep that's too deep you got business over there yeah i got uh i i mess with uh my producers 0.83
00:00:12.080 from there so i go over there to record with him and shit you know you working on album yes sir 0.83
00:00:17.120 i just finished it today that was you finished the album i wrapped it up yeah i did all the 0.88
00:00:21.200 the final cut the final like you know mixes and everything today how many tracks uh it's eight
00:00:26.880 eight tracks on it okay yeah nice and compact i don't like those 30 track albums the 40 track
00:00:31.720 it's too much yeah too much yeah well why do they do that for streaming for streaming numbers what 0.77
00:00:35.620 the what a lot of tracks yeah well that's old school shit you know like back in the days like 0.98
00:00:40.220 albums have like 20 30 tracks on it with like five interludes yeah with like fucking skits and 0.96
00:00:46.000 skits you know skits on an eight track album maybe one no skits no voicemails no no voicemails
00:00:51.920 What's the title of the album? You know yet?
00:00:53.780 It's Viral Rebirth.
00:00:56.340 Why?
00:00:57.460 Well, it's because I had a...
00:01:00.260 The project, it was already out, right?
00:01:03.600 So what happened was I took down the project.
00:01:05.860 I took down all my music because I felt like, you know,
00:01:08.900 just the relationship with iTunes and Spotify,
00:01:14.900 it just wasn't making me money, you feel me?
00:01:18.300 Because I'm not getting the millions of streams and 10 million streams.
00:01:21.260 So I decided to take all my music
00:01:23.980 Off of those pages for now
00:01:25.760 And sell it directly to my consumers
00:01:28.280 Oh so it's not available for streaming
00:01:29.300 So it's not available for streaming
00:01:30.520 However
00:01:31.000 So what I did was
00:01:32.260 I took it down
00:01:33.000 And then I added three more songs on it
00:01:35.040 And then I repackaged it
00:01:37.100 And now I'm about to sell it to
00:01:38.580 You know I'm about to sell it
00:01:39.540 For direct to consumer 1.00
00:01:40.620 And NFTs and shit 0.99
00:01:42.080 I saw you on Patreon now too 0.98
00:01:43.360 Yeah on Patreon too as well
00:01:44.940 What made you shift to start doing all that
00:01:46.400 And selling your content like that?
00:01:48.660 Because it's
00:01:49.300 Huh?
00:01:50.020 Is there more money in it?
00:01:50.780 Yeah, because at first, like, I went in there, like, I went into doing music and content, not making money, but getting exposure.
00:01:59.740 You know what I'm saying?
00:02:00.400 Like, yo, I'll do everything, like, whatever, for free, everything, like, it doesn't matter.
00:02:04.620 And then, um, shout out to the, uh, the poppy over there with the, he just brought the bodega over here, bro. 0.95
00:02:12.920 I felt like we were, but, um, but fucking, yeah, so I just, so now I took it.
00:02:18.460 So now, instead of chasing, like, notoriety and clout and shit like that, you know, now just whatever I have, like, the bass that I have, I need to make money. 0.96
00:02:28.780 You know what I'm saying?
00:02:29.280 Because, like, you know, you spend so much money on music.
00:02:31.240 People look at, like, rappers, like, you know, it costs a lot of money to do what we do.
00:02:36.840 You know what I'm saying?
00:02:37.540 Videos.
00:02:38.140 Mixing, like, the studio time is a lot of money.
00:02:39.940 Yeah, the rappers are the last people to get paid, and sometimes we don't get paid at all.
00:02:43.360 So if I don't charge for my music and stuff like that, chances are I won't get paid.
00:02:47.640 i'll be still in the red independent right facts so that's how that's how i started like just
00:02:52.780 switching my my um my model to you know getting exposure to getting money you know what i'm saying
00:02:59.040 you get a lot of views on youtube though your videos do a lot better than your your streaming
00:03:03.120 right numbers they do yeah why is that you think every interview i see when all the all the vlad
00:03:08.360 police interviews they get like three four million views but yeah i mean because they just like i 0.98
00:03:14.400 don't know they like they like they like they like the bullshit man they like the you know 0.98
00:03:20.060 the clickbait the controversy the clickbait they like that they want to hear about the scars on 1.00
00:03:24.020 your face and shit like that they want to hear the million jail stories that i told over and over 0.97
00:03:28.340 and why you did so many of those vlad interviews like what do you think about everyone calling 0.99
00:03:32.180 them a police like every time i watched those i remember seeing those a couple years ago like it
00:03:35.500 felt like an interrogation the way he asked questions the way you sit in there like with
00:03:39.400 one camera you never felt like you never got that that vibe from that i mean definitely you know i
00:03:45.600 mean he i don't i don't take it like he's an investigative journalist you know i'm saying
00:03:50.440 and he's really like he hones in on the investigative shit so i don't per se think he's a 0.64
00:03:54.840 police he's not police he's definitely not policing he's definitely i don't know i don't 0.96
00:03:59.180 think he works with the police however he does have police like swag you know i'm saying he got 0.93
00:04:05.800 like police type tendencies and shit like you know investigative shit you know so but at the 0.87
00:04:11.380 end of the day that's what people like you feel me like he wouldn't have a he wouldn't have a 0.98
00:04:16.480 platform if people didn't like that type of shit so people do like it and there is there is value 0.98
00:04:21.220 in it because people watch it and you know for whatever reason people think that whatever the 0.99
00:04:26.660 videos the questions that he do are interesting so you know he keeps on inviting me up you know
00:04:32.860 i mean and i i you know for now i'm going up there you know but for now you don't want to do any more
00:04:38.100 of those jail stories and keep talking about the past what happened 20 years ago right i mean i i
00:04:45.760 i try not to you know he he just keeps on throwing it in there after i tell him like you know let's 0.93
00:04:50.540 i don't want to talk about this let's just you know do whatever shit but he just keeps on doing 0.98
00:04:54.480 it you know but whatever whatever you know i i the people on his on his platform like this shit so 0.96
00:05:01.720 whatever but can you give a brief summary of like of your story like i see you were in um the ghost 0.96
00:05:07.260 shadows gang right um that was a chinatown chinese mafia back in the 90s and then uh you did 10 years 0.53
00:05:14.360 on rikers right no it's 10 you can't do 10 years on rikers yeah rikers is a county jail yeah county
00:05:20.640 jail so i did 10 years in the state and um yeah i was in a gang called ghost shadows and that was
00:05:26.400 back in the days when chinatown was really gang populated you know it was a lot of it had a lot
00:05:32.360 of gang culture in it and um that's when i was that's the chinatown that i was born into
00:05:37.460 and the time that i was born like you know when i grew up in chinatown every block was gang
00:05:43.180 territory you know i mean and um it was it was a little it was a lot different over there now
00:05:48.140 than now new york has shifted a lot has changed a lot since then chinatown's trying to hit even 0.96
00:05:52.680 this park i don't think you know we probably wouldn't be able to do this shit right now like 0.80
00:05:57.520 without being disturbed somewhat like in it in it like 10 20 years ago you know what would have 0.96
00:06:02.360 happened someone would have came up and said like i feel like there would have been a lot more dope
00:06:05.880 fiends out here i feel like you would have a lot of people nodding off over here like i don't know
00:06:10.140 i feel like it would have been a lot dirtier i feel like we wouldn't even want to sit down on 0.96
00:06:13.800 this shit yeah right is there a part of you that uh misses the griminess or do you like the change 0.98
00:06:18.240 you like to say for New York City um I mean it's a gift and a curse to me you feel me uh because 0.99
00:06:26.380 you know um there's still crime going on it's just they push it to different places you know
00:06:31.860 so it's I mean they they they they clean this up but then it's still like they pushing them
00:06:37.460 somewhere so you know a lot of people from here move to the Bronx or some shit like that that's 0.76
00:06:42.040 is still fucked up you know i mean but i feel like uh i feel like i do like new york being 0.93
00:06:49.740 cleaned up i do like it but then a part of me is like you know i know new york for being grimy 0.94
00:06:55.200 for for having certain type of you know you know a certain type of aesthetic you know i'm saying
00:07:00.620 like a more do you miss it i do really i mean but then i don't miss it you ever miss something you
00:07:06.760 ever had like a girl that you kind of miss certain things you're nostalgic for it but like you might
00:07:11.260 miss her cooking or you might miss her something you know i mean but then you don't not her attitude
00:07:15.120 yeah right so it's kind of like that there's there's good there's cons and pros to it but i do
00:07:20.320 i think that what was different is like you know um in new york is just you know um new york now
00:07:28.440 from how new york was back in the day is just people just don't have the same respect you know
00:07:36.800 i'm saying like back in the days like that you know people stayed in there you know stayed in
00:07:42.560 their position you know they didn't really like around a little bit like people stayed people
00:07:48.660 didn't do too much back in the days because it was like a lot more you know violence and crazy
00:07:53.880 shit happening you know when i was coming up so people kind of stayed in their lane a little bit
00:07:58.200 more you know i'm saying now it's like i feel like young people just super disrespectful people 0.82
00:08:02.820 would say anything and do anything and and i don't think it's the same type of you know and
00:08:08.180 also also like there was like a little more like morals principles back in the days when new york
00:08:13.560 like you know people follow certain codes and people did certain things and had more respect 0.90
00:08:18.320 for the elders even when they was gang banging all that dumb shit you know just certain things 0.99
00:08:23.080 you know now i just feel like they don't give a fuck you know i mean there's no respect like 1.00
00:08:26.540 they don't give a fuck they'll shoot they don't get like you know just people don't give a fuck 0.99
00:08:30.640 no more about nobody else there was a shooting here two nights ago actually right here yeah 0.99
00:08:34.060 right right in the corner of this park wow were there more fistfights back then people just like
00:08:39.880 tend to shoot instead of fight it out i feel like there was definitely more fistfights back in the
00:08:44.980 days but people still get shot out back in the days people got stabbed a lot you know i feel 0.98
00:08:49.700 like now people don't fight this much people just go straight to the uh the guns and shit why 1.00
00:08:54.060 um because a lot of these motherfuckers don't know how to fight 1.00
00:08:59.720 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:09:00.160 Like, if you don't know how to fight, you know, you get your ass whipped, 0.99
00:09:03.480 you want to even out the playing score. 0.97
00:09:04.880 So I think, you know, if there wasn't no guns, I seen a meme earlier, 0.99
00:09:08.320 if there wasn't no guns, a lot of motherfuckers would be walking around with... 1.00
00:09:11.680 The ski mask all the time. 1.00
00:09:12.700 With big-ass fucking black eyes and shit all over their face, you know? 1.00
00:09:21.260 What about the difference in the treatment of Asians? 1.00
00:09:23.800 Do you see more disrespect now?
00:09:26.360 Like, back when there was the Chinese Mafia, 0.79
00:09:27.880 i can imagine people would be more afraid and people would have more respect for for asian
00:09:31.360 culture but i mean you see the difference of chinatown for example the businesses are going
00:09:35.180 out like people are getting attacked there um do you do you see a difference there's super there's
00:09:41.200 definitely a difference man it's just you know but at the same time i don't think the chinese
00:09:45.780 like the asian people really ever fully got their respect we always been looked at looked at like
00:09:51.680 you know like weaker you know what i'm saying yeah uh we always been looked at like you know
00:09:58.200 docile like you know just what like you could take advantage of us you know whose fault is that
00:10:03.020 aren't most asians docile and non-competitional it is i mean yeah it's our fault you know 1.00
00:10:08.640 it's our fault for allowing that to to to happen it's our you know but i don't think it's not a
00:10:15.680 fault you know i mean because that's how we were raised you know that's how our if it's anybody's
00:10:22.280 fault it's you know the culture the people that came before us you know i'm saying but that that
00:10:27.420 was like how that's how our people are you know i'm saying like you know and um our our mothers
00:10:33.340 our grandmothers our great-grandmothers always was taught for us to like you know kind of just
00:10:37.980 keep a more profile right uh don't be we were taught not to be aggressive you know i mean we
00:10:43.760 looked our people look down on stuff like that yeah i mean our people look down on being loud
00:10:48.200 and you know i'm saying like you know uh so when you kind of like you know that's our culture and 0.93
00:10:55.460 then we you know so we accept shit we we accept it but now we're talking about people who came 0.91
00:11:00.320 from china and like you know assimilated into the country but now us you know it's it's a different 0.98
00:11:05.920 world for us now you know i mean just because our it worked for our parents and their parents
00:11:11.340 and the people some things like you know we can't keep on continuing you know we gotta adapt we we
00:11:16.620 have to adapt yeah that's why i really look up to you like i see videos of you like someone will be
00:11:20.700 in the car yelling out like uh go back to your country and you'll get out and just run down on
00:11:24.860 the person like what country what's up yeah and like no one expects any asian to do that and it 1.00
00:11:28.940 just i really really admire that right i wish i would see more of that i feel like we need to see
00:11:34.540 more of that man i i and you know it's just i hope that you know the little that because honestly
00:11:39.980 like you know um like with that video you were talking about with that i i really i didn't i
00:11:46.080 really like i didn't necessarily want to record it to like you know to like just show everybody
00:11:54.040 like oh look i could be a badass that's not that's definitely not what i wanted to do you know what
00:11:58.160 i'm saying what i wanted to do was to show people like hey you know this is what we're supposed to
00:12:02.800 be doing you know i'm saying and i feel like a lot of asian people just don't like our people
00:12:07.920 don't teach us that like you know our fathers are not teaching that or like you know what i mean
00:12:11.680 like we're not teaching we're not taught to like you know to to speak up and especially not even
00:12:17.460 just speak up for ourselves but speak up for others for others like you know i'm saying like
00:12:21.420 black people if you say if a black people see another black person getting jumped they'll 0.89
00:12:24.380 start fighting right especially if it's from you know say say me and you or like you know two white 0.99
00:12:30.220 guys or two asian guys go and have a fight with with with a black or older black dude get out of
00:12:35.740 here they're not gonna you know i mean the people's gonna jump in and there's nothing wrong with that 0.90
00:12:40.100 you know i'm saying is that i think that's right that's what for your people you gotta stick up for
00:12:43.660 your people you feel me and especially people of our communities and and shit like that you know 0.88
00:12:48.100 i think that's important we have to put take into consideration that you're a rare case there's not 0.82
00:12:52.560 a lot of asians with that type of past that you have with the type of like you grew up with gang 1.00
00:12:58.320 banging so you're that's it's you're built like that right how do we teach you know guys like like
00:13:03.660 us how do we start adapting and how do we change our mentality without you know that aggressive
00:13:10.320 past i think the first step is to just like you know be confident right so like in order for you
00:13:17.320 to be confident you have to physically be comfortable with yourself you know i mean and
00:13:21.460 then you also have to be a comfortable with your abilities right like you know so i think once you
00:13:27.160 have that right you have the confidence and you have uh confidence in your ability right then i
00:13:35.140 feel like you know you can start asserting yourself a certain way not not like i'm not 1.00
00:13:41.020 telling anybody to fucking be batman or fucking like be a superhero or fucking be an asshole or 0.99
00:13:46.900 anything but if if i don't feel comfortable with my like you know how if i can't fight you know 1.00
00:13:54.860 i'm saying if somebody bigger than me is like you know doing something to somebody i'm not gonna 0.94
00:14:00.180 want to go over there because i'm using a fuck around and fuck me up you know i'm saying but if 0.99
00:14:04.440 i'm bigger my if i'm bigger myself and i know how to handle myself and i see somebody picking on an 1.00
00:14:09.600 80 year old woman you know i'm saying smacking her bags or like fucking like ticking her bag and 1.00
00:14:14.660 throwing that shit like joking or kicking have you seen that happen i mean face to face i haven't 1.00
00:14:18.980 seen i haven't seen that shit happen i'm looking for that i've really been like hoping i see 0.99
00:14:22.840 something like that right what would you do i would step in i would immediately step in right 0.64
00:14:28.880 yeah that makes me so angry like all the hate crimes have been i mean during covid it multiplied
00:14:34.500 by 10 right and i've heard all these stories in the news about that but i would i would 100% step
00:14:39.440 in if i saw that like i saw a video of this asian woman getting febrezed on the train you probably 0.93
00:14:43.540 saw that that was the beginning of covid they started spraying or i wish i wish i saw that i
00:14:47.520 wish i was there for that but yeah i think we're in like you know um people like you people like
00:14:53.780 me like this is our time to like you know to change it you know i'm saying it's important
00:14:59.520 you know like uh it's important for us to use our platforms and that's why i'm so mad at like 0.99
00:15:04.820 other asian people that have platforms and shit you know they so scared man they be tucking their 1.00
00:15:09.840 fucking dick between their legs and shit like they so scared to like you know to to to to 1.00
00:15:15.240 to fucking like jeopardize whatever you know whatever they got you know i mean they don't 1.00
00:15:21.080 want people to look at them a certain way they don't want but you know i feel like you know 0.97
00:15:25.460 sometimes sometimes some things some fights are worth it you know i'm saying and then i when i 0.88
00:15:31.440 first started the the rallies and shit that they can't burn us all rally when i seen the 89 year 0.86
00:15:35.780 old woman get you know um i went to the streets i did it and i reached out to all of the you know 0.93
00:15:41.020 celebrities name an asian celebrity i reached out to them you know i'm saying and i sent them how
00:15:46.040 many of them were afraid to do anything about all of them probably like nobody reposted me they 0.97
00:15:50.580 didn't even want to repost this shit that's why we would never have a black lives matter type 0.98
00:15:53.680 movement it's just a fear of like intruding too much i think it's because like some of my friends 0.98
00:15:57.540 explain it like this like asians in america even if they're first generation even they're born here
00:16:01.680 there's a sense that we don't belong here that this is not our country that this is just we're
00:16:05.960 here to like make money and become doctors and succeed but like we don't want to speak up too
00:16:10.940 much because we don't want to we don't have like long-term ideas of staying here right but where 0.94
00:16:16.680 the fuck are you where's your family from my mom's filipino my dad's from haiti okay so i'm i'm fully 0.99
00:16:22.620 chinese like could you right now just like move to fucking filipino philippines uh i don't speak 0.99
00:16:28.420 any tagalog yeah but what i'm saying is we're american you know i'm saying so we can't just go 0.99
00:16:33.620 i know i know i know that but go back to fucking can you agree with that idea that a lot of asians 0.92
00:16:37.820 believe that like oh this is not really our place like this is why we don't speak up because like 0.98
00:16:42.320 how you get sprayed on the train and you just sit there keep reading your newspaper
00:16:45.420 what's going through your head they're scared bro you know i'm saying they're scared i feel like
00:16:53.240 a lot of asian people are just like you know they're scared and it sucks to see that that 1.00
00:17:00.900 our people are like you know just fucking like just getting bullied and and and doing nothing 0.96
00:17:09.400 about i mean i guess it's easy for us to say to adapt because i mean we're in a different line 0.97
00:17:13.460 of work than most asian most asians just want to like become successful doctors or engineers they 0.99
00:17:18.780 want to but you're not you're a rapper it's a very different lifestyle like you're able to sacrifice
00:17:23.380 and and risk getting in a fight whereas most just like i don't want to lose my career right
00:17:28.700 that's the difference between this minority and other minorities is that we all just want to be 1.00
00:17:34.920 successful doctors and yeah but but i feel like you know we're going to different times now you 0.83
00:17:40.520 know i mean shit is changing you know if if you if we can't see that our world is changing like 0.98
00:17:45.660 you know then we're blind because look at what happened last year we've never seen no shit like 0.99
00:17:49.980 that like the fucking the whole world just stopped for like you know a good amount of time and you 0.99
00:17:54.500 seen like the madness that was happening throughout that right like shit just got crazy 0.97
00:17:58.400 and we got a glimpse of it so i feel like you know as as this country changes and as the world
00:18:04.440 changes we're gonna see a lot of changes and i feel like you know how we are conducting ourselves
00:18:09.720 or how we have conducted ourselves and how we have responded to issues um can't like you know 0.98
00:18:17.140 that shit is gonna that that shit is we can't do shit like that we can't handle it like that no 0.99
00:18:21.620 more because people just going to keep on wanting to come fuck with us but it's easy to say that 1.00
00:18:25.260 because like you were the only you were one of six asians and rikers right right i heard a story 0.98
00:18:29.960 about that you have a very different past than every other age so ideally yeah like we that's
00:18:36.380 the right idea to have that we should change but do you really think that we could i don't know bro 0.75
00:18:42.660 i don't know that shit is like foreign to a lot of people but i honestly i feel like what we need 0.98
00:18:47.860 to do is we need to fucking just you know i'm saying i'm working on doing this shit like i'm 0.98
00:18:53.100 starting i'm working on trying to just shift the culture you know i'm saying that we should be you 0.99
00:18:58.160 know we should be like physically uh ready for shit you know i'm saying we should be teaching 0.78
00:19:04.820 each other like our communities our parks we started martial arts yeah and how come that's 0.98
00:19:09.700 what i'm saying why what the fuck are we you know there was a time when i was growing up people were 0.98
00:19:13.240 scared to fuck with asian people because they thought that we knew you know i'm saying like 0.98
00:19:17.780 you know a lot of people was like oh nah you know i mean so there's a lot of times i was able to 0.99
00:19:21.540 just get by with the and then they'll back up you know i'm saying i remember let me tell you a story
00:19:26.200 right i was on i was in uh i was in uh rikens island in um c74 i was probably like i don't
00:19:32.360 know i was like 16 16 or some shit like that so they this is my first time on rikens island i 0.67
00:19:38.280 it wasn't the first time i got arrested but or or like i was in a juvenile jail but that was the
00:19:42.880 first time i was on rikers island they moved me from intake house to my like the main house and i
00:19:48.540 had like eight people that were arrested with me but they all got bailed out and i was the last
00:19:53.340 person to go into to stay there so they moved me outside of orientation like the first spot where
00:19:59.380 you go so you stay there for like a week and then they move you to your your house right so then i 0.98
00:20:03.540 go to this spot and this is like the yo i swear to god walk in that shit and it's like sparta like 0.97
00:20:09.840 oh everybody's like yelling and it was like just crazy i'm just like all right you know i mean like 0.91
00:20:14.880 i gotta make an example like immediately and people were just looking at me staring at me
00:20:18.860 people yelling shit you know i mean so when i went in there when i go in when i go in i went to i went 0.87
00:20:24.660 to the bathroom then i went to the phone and i'm trying to get on the phone and then um the dude 0.99
00:20:30.960 the dude he left the phone hanging so i was just like yo what's up with this phone so they was like
00:20:36.140 Nah don't touch the phone
00:20:37.120 Nah don't touch that phone
00:20:38.840 So I'm like
00:20:39.740 Don't touch the phone
00:20:40.640 Ain't nobody using it
00:20:41.660 So I went
00:20:42.200 Grabbed the phone
00:20:43.920 Dialing out
00:20:45.620 Boom
00:20:46.080 And then I started talking
00:20:47.280 I'm talking
00:20:47.840 And somebody comes behind me
00:20:49.560 But I'm tight there
00:20:50.320 Because I'm trying to get bail
00:20:51.920 I'm trying to like
00:20:52.600 You know I'm talking to my family
00:20:53.640 Like yo what's up
00:20:54.160 Boom boom boom
00:20:54.580 So now
00:20:55.480 Somebody taps me on the back
00:20:57.040 And I look back
00:20:57.760 And he's like yo 1.00
00:20:58.240 Get the fuck off the phone 0.99
00:20:59.300 So I went back 1.00
00:21:00.300 And I'm still talking
00:21:01.440 And then he taps me again
00:21:03.560 He was like yo 0.98
00:21:04.100 You ain't fucking hear me 0.96
00:21:05.080 so when he did that i just turned around like he made that noise yeah i made the noise and i was 0.98
00:21:11.640 like i put my hands up like this and they was like oh there was like five like there was like
00:21:17.480 mad people there there was like five people there but there was a bunch of people on the side
00:21:21.220 and they was like oh and i saw like he was scared like they were scared because of the
00:21:26.200 yeah because of the huh i wish that still worked as soon as i did the huh so now but they're like
00:21:30.580 Yeah, but when I did the huh, I got hype.
00:21:33.020 I got hype off of the reaction of the huh.
00:21:35.240 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:35.980 I did that.
00:21:36.420 They was like, oh. 1.00
00:21:37.140 Then I was like, oh, shit, yeah. 1.00
00:21:38.460 And I swung. 1.00
00:21:39.360 And when I swung, they was like, this motherfucker don't know no fucking karate. 1.00
00:21:43.140 And they jumped my ass and they got me out of there. 1.00
00:21:46.740 That was a funny story. 0.98
00:21:47.720 What's the biggest lesson you learned in your time?
00:21:50.580 Your time inside?
00:21:51.240 um biggest lesson is that um for me personally is that uh i can't be scared of success you know
00:22:03.940 i'm saying like a lot of times like when i was a kid people instilled like embedded in my brain
00:22:10.080 that you know i just wasn't good enough you know i mean like you know i wasn't better than my 0.75
00:22:14.740 cousins i wasn't smart enough i wasn't this i wasn't that so it that shit really like kind of 0.97
00:22:22.060 like uh i kind of believe that shit you know and i was thinking about like you know i was thinking 0.98
00:22:28.240 about why i was getting in so much trouble and a lot of times it was just because i didn't believe 0.94
00:22:33.800 that i really deserved anything else you feel me so i just kept on putting myself like
00:22:38.880 subconsciously i just kept on fucking up because so sabotaging yeah right so and i was doing that 0.96
00:22:44.580 shit for a long time until the last time i got arrested i sat down for 10 years i did 10 years 0.98
00:22:49.820 in prison and then i'm just like i and then i started understanding that i started unraveling 0.98
00:22:54.080 that and then i started dealing so that's the biggest lesson i learned that just step out of
00:22:57.940 my my way and let myself be great you know let myself you know whatever somebody said about me
00:23:03.360 or to me or whatever like that's their fucking that's whatever they think but people get proven 0.95
00:23:09.180 wrong every day you know i'm saying so you know i ain't no fucking different you know i'm saying 0.97
00:23:14.400 i might not be perfect to what the fuck anybody else wants but i'm perfect to whatever whatever 0.89
00:23:19.320 the fuck i want to be you feel me because you were you must have been like the strongest minority 0.97
00:23:25.020 you could have been you know there's no asians in jail right what did you realize of how people 1.00
00:23:30.680 perceive asians being like one of the only ones there in an environment like prison yeah i mean 0.99
00:23:37.080 i think at first like you know at first you just get dealt with like you know with the with the
00:23:42.420 They try you, you know what I'm saying?
00:23:44.080 They try you.
00:23:45.100 But I feel like once you show that, you know, what you're about 0.99
00:23:52.040 and that you're not pussy and that you're going to, you know, 1.00
00:23:57.120 people are going to respect that, you know what I'm saying? 1.00
00:24:01.940 So I feel like I didn't really have a lot of shit because I was Chinese, you know? 0.99
00:24:05.520 At first I did, you know? 0.99
00:24:07.280 But once I started, like, you know, people knew, 0.76
00:24:09.200 people could tell by the energy people heard stories about you know me fighting and shit like 0.98
00:24:14.940 that people would you know that would be enough to like deter somebody from like fucking you know 0.96
00:24:19.620 just respecting me you know i'm saying i feel like that's a lot that's the thing you know i 0.74
00:24:23.240 mean like a lot of us a lot of people just don't respect us because they don't see us doing the
00:24:28.580 same shit that they deem gets the respect you know i'm saying we don't do the same we don't do 0.89
00:24:34.840 the shit that other people feel like should be respected you know i'm saying the things they 0.99
00:24:38.660 respect we don't do we probably get respect through notoriety yeah your grades right you 0.99
00:24:44.160 know i mean you know like our family my family like you if you have getting to a good school
00:24:48.920 you're you're respected you know i'm saying like you get a good job respected you make a lot of
00:24:53.480 money respected you know i'm saying but uh you know and other and other people look at like you
00:24:59.880 know different things you know i mean like different things for respect like you know they
00:25:03.800 respect people that that fight you know i mean they respect people that stand up for themselves
00:25:07.680 They respect different type of attributes that, you know, we don't really carry.
00:25:11.900 So I think that's the thing, you know.
00:25:13.840 Do you think that's the reason why a lot of Asian women go to white men?
00:25:20.420 I don't know, man.
00:25:23.040 I don't know.
00:25:24.080 I think a lot of Asian women go with white men. 1.00
00:25:28.540 Why the fuck do y'all go with white men? 1.00
00:25:30.040 I don't understand. 1.00
00:25:30.740 Why?
00:25:30.980 Stop. 1.00
00:25:31.820 What the fuck? 1.00
00:25:33.780 I don't know. 1.00
00:25:34.420 It's probably a lack of respect because we're so focused on grades and school and this,
00:25:38.960 and there's a lack of masculinity there that women are attracted to. 1.00
00:25:43.280 Right.
00:25:46.300 Yo, I see that. 0.99
00:25:47.220 My whole, like, all of my cousins, like, when we have a family event and shit, 0.99
00:25:53.640 I'll be like, what the fuck? 1.00
00:25:55.920 Whose family is this? 1.00
00:25:57.440 You know what I'm saying? 1.00
00:25:58.120 Like, that shit turned into the, you know, a different type of family. 1.00
00:26:02.720 Everybody has a white boyfriend and shit 1.00
00:26:04.460 But the other way is not really the case 1.00
00:26:06.740 You don't see a lot of Asian men with white women
00:26:08.520 It's almost never
00:26:09.280 Very rare
00:26:10.260 For real?
00:26:11.320 I don't see that often
00:26:12.220 Do you?
00:26:15.500 I think I see that
00:26:16.680 I see that more than
00:26:17.820 We were talking about that
00:26:18.740 He's half Asian too
00:26:19.580 It's like whenever you see a half Asian 1.00
00:26:21.080 You know that the mom is the Asian one 1.00
00:26:22.620 Nine out of ten times
00:26:24.120 That's crazy
00:26:24.420 Nine out of ten times
00:26:25.400 That's crazy
00:26:26.480 I mean
00:26:28.240 I see Asian people
00:26:30.820 I think I see more Asian people
00:26:32.680 With white girls 0.98
00:26:33.600 Than I see them 0.77
00:26:34.780 With black girls 0.91
00:26:36.080 Yeah
00:26:37.900 Yeah
00:26:39.820 A lot of Asians 0.95
00:26:40.400 Are afraid of black people 1.00
00:26:41.240 Yeah 0.98
00:26:42.360 Why do you think that?
00:26:45.420 The same stereotypes
00:26:46.440 The same reason
00:26:46.940 White people are afraid 0.99
00:26:47.600 Of black people 0.99
00:26:48.120 The same ingrained stereotypes
00:26:50.420 Right 0.97
00:26:51.140 Are you scared of black people? 0.98
00:26:53.640 I'm half 0.98
00:26:54.100 I mean my dad's half black
00:26:55.320 Oh yeah
00:26:55.820 You're Haitian 0.56
00:26:56.500 Yeah yeah
00:26:56.940 Right 0.92
00:26:57.160 So you're not scared of black people 0.97
00:26:58.460 I can't be 0.99
00:26:58.940 You can't be
00:26:59.800 You were inside for so long
00:27:01.600 I mean
00:27:01.940 you know i'm listen at the end of the day i'm not gonna say i'm not scared of anything i'm not i
00:27:06.820 don't have fear yeah i don't see any fear in you i mean but i'm not gonna say i don't have fear i
00:27:10.760 do have fear you know we all have fear like yo but i don't think you're afraid of any other person
00:27:14.500 i think you might have fear like of loneliness and shit like that like emotional like listen 0.67
00:27:19.380 fear is a natural fucking thing man fear like you can't like sometimes like i might feel fear 0.94
00:27:25.800 you know i mean like some some somebody might you know come a certain way like i might i might feel 0.97
00:27:30.880 at you know it's not something that we should run away from it's not something that we shouldn't
00:27:35.400 embrace you know i'm saying but the thing is how to conquer that fear right right how not to let
00:27:39.740 that fear overcome you know take the respect from you you know i'm saying like like like this there's 0.99
00:27:46.480 one thing to to fear there's another thing to allow that fear uh make you uh less of a fucking 0.94
00:27:53.660 you know less of a man you know i'm saying or or allow that fear to like take that from you you 0.95
00:28:00.300 know and i i i don't do that you know i'm saying i i i will i i'm not gonna let my fear like 0.98
00:28:07.880 control how the fuck you know i'm gonna live you know i'm saying you ever feel like you 0.92
00:28:12.620 couldn't rap because of what race you are no i never felt like that people never gave you that 0.99
00:28:17.640 attitude no i never felt like that i mean you know i feel like now is like you i deal with 0.97
00:28:24.220 more race shit now like you know i'm saying now 20 years ago yeah i never dealt with all of this 0.94
00:28:29.580 race shit like i don't know that's a new thing like that yeah like like when i was in when i 0.99
00:28:34.160 was coming up and shit like after i've i set my mark i said like you know after i have like a 0.98
00:28:39.060 certain type of um respect and shit like that through you know and and after i learned how to 0.95
00:28:43.960 carry myself like i don't really feel no race shit like people don't come at me like that like 0.97
00:28:49.320 you know i'm saying i'll be in all black neighborhoods all day every day you know i 0.98
00:28:53.120 mean and people don't i never had that you know i mean it's probably more about how you carry 0.99
00:28:56.500 yourself it's how you carry yourself you just fucking he just fucking nailed it this guy 0.98
00:29:01.660 i'm learning something yeah it's how you carry yourself bro because at the end of the day 0.99
00:29:05.620 they don't look at you like oh you're asian so as soon as this is how they look at me right as
00:29:11.860 soon as i i'm asian people look at me like okay but then when they see how i move it does they
00:29:17.140 don't even i don't even have to speak you know i'm saying it's just how i move how i walk in a
00:29:21.840 room. You know what I'm saying? Where my eyes go, where my back is, my body language. Because
00:29:29.120 people will test you without even saying anything to you. They'll do something and just see
00:29:32.860 how you react to it. And if you give them that, then they'll take advantage. So I feel
00:29:38.940 like a lot of us just need to learn how to carry ourselves.
00:29:42.480 How are you adapting to the social media area, the clout era? Music is changing. Like
00:29:48.380 back at 20 years ago like music is a lot more about views clout um yeah uh you did pretty well
00:29:56.460 you're like popping on instagram right that's your youtube going yeah it took me a little
00:30:00.380 minutes and still i'm not a social media person you don't think so i mean i am but i'm not like
00:30:07.760 i still like because i didn't grow up with it you know i'm saying so like some kids like i don't
00:30:12.800 know you probably i grew up you grew up with it i didn't grow up with it i grew up my whole
00:30:16.800 childhood you know i didn't have any you know computers or any phone or anything like that
00:30:22.160 right so i'm i'm like you know but i adapted to it but still it's not my core that's why i thought
00:30:28.720 you were way younger than you are right right but but it's not my core but you is different it's
00:30:33.960 more natural for you because you been doing it you know i'm saying it was something that you
00:30:37.640 me i had to adapt into it and kind of like so there's still sometimes that i just don't
00:30:42.320 you know i might go like a whole week without posting anything because i just don't want to be
00:30:46.140 you know i'm saying like you know i still do that you know so yeah do you think that the
00:30:52.560 the response to police has changed too you think more people rat now absolutely absolutely there's
00:31:00.840 i feel like people been ratting people been telling but there was more of a culture of um 0.86
00:31:06.160 just like you know no talent like more more like morals and codes and shit you know i'm saying 0.84
00:31:14.380 Back then? 0.98
00:31:15.000 Huh?
00:31:15.260 Back then?
00:31:15.980 Yeah, but, like, it was, you know, no snitching.
00:31:19.000 Like, that was kind of, like, ingrained in the culture.
00:31:23.500 You don't think that's still there?
00:31:24.340 You don't think people still have that mentality?
00:31:25.960 Nah.
00:31:26.420 What about GS9?
00:31:27.720 I mean, GS9 is different, you know?
00:31:29.560 They represent, you know, something different.
00:31:31.920 But they don't, the majority is, like, you know, people don't respect that anymore, that code.
00:31:37.980 People just don't.
00:31:38.680 Like I said, that respect is gone, you know?
00:31:41.940 Why?
00:31:42.460 Because of social media?
00:31:43.640 Is that part of it?
00:31:44.600 I think social media, just like, you know, the people, like, in my era,
00:31:49.960 like, we didn't do a good job in, like, you know, passing it down to, you know.
00:31:55.920 So it's your fault?
00:31:56.780 It's my fault.
00:31:57.620 Come on, man.
00:31:58.680 Come on, Mac.
00:32:00.060 Snitching is my fault.
00:32:04.240 All right, Mac, I pretty much asked you everything I got.
00:32:07.660 All right.
00:32:08.580 Yeah, I appreciate the conversation.
00:32:09.920 Yes, sir.
00:32:10.380 and you got any any words for for the asian youth um don't be scared man you know like
00:32:20.540 your fear is something that you can conquer you know i'm saying and and don't look at nobody like
00:32:25.680 everybody everybody nobody's no we should never look at anybody like they are you know more than
00:32:35.080 us you know i'm saying at the end of the day everybody has their own pluses you know i'm
00:32:40.120 saying we should never be we should never have enough fear for other men and other people um
00:32:49.140 you know to the point where we can't control it you know i'm saying we have to learn how to
00:32:53.660 control our fear we have to learn how to speak up more and um you know and it's one step at a time
00:32:59.840 you know i'm saying like you know start start you know getting your body in shape and start just
00:33:04.840 you know paying attention to your surroundings situational awareness and um start just paying
00:33:10.360 attention to how you carry yourself you know i'm saying like you know and that's that's important
00:33:15.220 you know what should you do if you see a old asian lady getting attacked you should definitely do 1.00
00:33:20.060 something you know i'm saying i don't know it depends on what your capabilities are you know 0.98
00:33:25.540 like if i'm a fucking 18 year old kid that never got into a fight before right and i'm like five 0.95
00:33:34.080 four you know 102 pounds and I see somebody that's 6'1 you know 260 pounds you know I mean what the 0.99
00:33:42.840 fucking can I do I don't I've never been in a fight what the fuck do you want me to do what 0.97
00:33:46.580 can I do you know what I'm saying so I mean and that's why I say hey get your bodies in shape 0.99
00:33:52.560 you know what I'm saying work out you know uh practice some type of uh uh uh defense like
00:33:58.580 defense class start getting your bodies ready for something right start training conditioning
00:34:03.840 yourself to get ready for something i don't train nothing you know i'm saying like i mean i i do
00:34:09.240 boxing i do like you know i just do i just keep my body in shape as much as i can you feel me
00:34:14.420 and then um i just practice what i've been doing like you know like certain things that i learned
00:34:18.640 when i was in prison like if somebody was to come at you with a knife how to like respond to it
00:34:23.120 yeah you know and and how to use a knife certain different things that i learned while i was in
00:34:28.360 prison that's what you still do prison workouts now i do you don't go to the gym you still do
00:34:32.560 Like the dips
00:34:33.620 Right
00:34:34.060 I think
00:34:35.160 You know what I mean
00:34:35.720 The parks is where I'm at
00:34:36.760 The yard
00:34:37.300 I do pull ups
00:34:38.640 Push ups 0.71
00:34:39.180 You know
00:34:39.820 I do the gym sometimes
00:34:40.820 But I don't want to be wearing 1.00
00:34:41.760 A fucking mask 1.00
00:34:42.720 While I'm working out 1.00
00:34:43.960 No you don't
00:34:44.740 Not all
00:34:45.080 Most of them you can
00:34:45.720 Like blink
00:34:46.640 You don't need to take
00:34:47.100 You don't need to wear it anymore
00:34:47.720 How did everything just change
00:34:48.960 Like that out of nowhere
00:34:49.800 Cuomo changed it
00:34:50.260 Cuomo the mask mandate's gone
00:34:51.840 Wow
00:34:52.300 But I mean people still are
00:34:53.940 Like him for example
00:34:55.200 He got the shot
00:34:55.940 And he still
00:34:56.420 He came in here wearing 0.99
00:34:57.480 A big ass like KN95 1.00
00:34:58.640 Yo you got the shot 1.00
00:34:59.480 Did you fucking do 1.00
00:35:01.040 The magnet test on your shit 1.00
00:35:02.240 yeah to see if they chipped you 0.99
00:35:05.620 all right my brother yo man thank you so much for having me brother you know much love