SNEAKO - June 06, 2022


CHINA MAC VS YOUNG DON： BLACKS VS ASIANS FINALE


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

189.34595

Word Count

8,597

Sentence Count

833

Misogynist Sentences

27

Hate Speech Sentences

70


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this episode, we talk about racism in the Asian culture and the fear of black people. We talk about our experiences with racism in Asian culture, and how we deal with it. We also talk about how Asian people are afraid of Black people.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 If you don't have difficult conversation with your kids,
00:00:01.920 they will form their opinions from TikTok and the subway.
00:00:04.440 Have difficult conversations.
00:00:05.880 Right.
00:00:07.040 What's a difficult conversation?
00:00:08.940 This black and Asian shit, that shit was difficult.
00:00:11.080 So let me ask you a question.
00:00:14.100 Do you think, as a whole,
00:00:17.600 do you think Asian people dislike black people?
00:00:22.240 I think Asian people are...
00:00:25.180 A lot of Asian people are afraid of black people.
00:00:30.000 I feel like they don't understand them and they're afraid of them.
00:00:34.240 You see, hate and fear oftentimes are very similar, I've realized.
00:00:38.800 And so, yeah, I think that is what's going on.
00:00:43.180 That was my reaction when we were doing a social experiment.
00:00:45.720 You felt that they were scared of you?
00:00:47.020 I feel like some of them were definitely scared of me.
00:00:49.520 You feel me?
00:00:50.060 Like, you remember the first, the very first people I tried to stop?
00:00:53.380 It was like this Asian man and woman, right?
00:00:56.840 And so we did a social experiment today.
00:00:58.840 And at first, I was actually just asking for a direction to the local library.
00:01:05.560 That was the first question.
00:01:07.180 The local library?
00:01:08.320 Yeah.
00:01:09.120 What year is this?
00:01:10.260 That was a Chinese library around the corner.
00:01:13.960 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:14.420 That's the library.
00:01:14.980 That sentence sounds so 2004.
00:01:16.900 I know, but he suggested it.
00:01:20.640 And, you know, bro, I thought it was a good idea.
00:01:23.820 So, anyway, so I was like, and it was just around the corner.
00:01:26.420 So, I was like, so I was like, hey, but before I could even get off my question, the mom literally was like, like, she hit one of those.
00:01:35.580 And then the dad was like this.
00:01:38.140 But they had a daughter.
00:01:39.920 And your daughter clearly looked like she was American Asian, like she was born here.
00:01:43.400 Damn, she hit you with the this?
00:01:45.560 Like, she hit me with the, like, not like she thought I was going to hit her, but kind of like, like, no, like, stay away.
00:01:52.180 Like, don't talk to me.
00:01:53.040 You feel me?
00:01:53.520 Like, as if I was like a crackhead or a homeless guy or something.
00:01:56.520 You feel me?
00:01:57.180 And then the dad, he just kind of, no, no, no, no, no.
00:01:59.900 But then the daughter falling behind, who looked like she was probably in her 20s, right?
00:02:04.680 She heard my question.
00:02:06.320 And then she was like, oh, what is it you're looking for?
00:02:08.480 I was like, yeah, I'm trying to get to the local library.
00:02:10.420 And I'm talking like that.
00:02:11.820 It's not like I was like, you know, it was like, hey, excuse me, miss.
00:02:16.300 I'm looking for the library.
00:02:18.600 Dad is like, yeah.
00:02:20.480 And then the daughter was like, oh, okay, no, it's around the corner.
00:02:23.940 And then in her stopping to, like, answer my question,
00:02:29.920 when her mother realized that I was just trying to get the register to the library,
00:02:35.440 it's not that she didn't speak English.
00:02:36.600 She turned around and was like, oh, yeah, no, yeah, the library is on the right.
00:02:39.720 She just went from, like, to, like, wanting to answer my question.
00:02:44.240 And it's like, I feel like what happened was instinct.
00:02:47.960 Then she thought.
00:02:49.660 And then she was like, oh, that was kind of crazy for me to act like that.
00:02:53.360 And also, I don't know if she peeped the camera.
00:02:56.140 You know what I mean?
00:02:56.720 She peeped the camera.
00:02:57.580 She did.
00:02:58.020 So she also was like, oh, wow, that looked crazy how, like,
00:03:02.400 he was just trying to ask me directions.
00:03:03.780 And I, like, fanned him off like that.
00:03:06.060 So, yeah, bro, I think that's fair.
00:03:08.340 I don't think she hate black people.
00:03:09.680 I think she's scared of me.
00:03:10.860 And she's scared of, like, dudes that look like me.
00:03:12.920 Why do you think she's scared of?
00:03:14.280 Because she bought into the same.
00:03:16.160 One, well, Asian culture in the homelands is racist towards black people
00:03:19.940 and people of color.
00:03:20.400 You don't think it's based on her experiences?
00:03:22.240 Huh?
00:03:22.400 You don't think it's based off of, like, stuff that she's experienced?
00:03:25.480 Could be as well.
00:03:26.420 Could be, but I'm saying, like, we had a debate.
00:03:29.460 And in it, I looked up all of the, like, there's this document in Wikipedia
00:03:34.060 that has compiled every Asian major country, right?
00:03:39.640 Everything from China and Japan all the way down to the lesser known Asian countries.
00:03:43.880 And, like, it gave articles and ways in which they hold beliefs that would be, if those beliefs
00:03:51.520 were said out loud in America, you'd be like, oh, that's racist.
00:03:54.540 You feel me?
00:03:55.160 I don't even know if they look at it like that.
00:03:57.720 But, yeah, you know, they don't want to, like, mix races and things like that.
00:04:05.120 And so, like, I feel like a lot of that came with them over here.
00:04:11.000 And then they came to a country where the ruling and most popular race, white people,
00:04:17.240 were already racist against black people.
00:04:19.860 So they came from a place that looked down on black people, people of color.
00:04:24.880 And, you know, I'm not talking crazy.
00:04:27.020 Like, your Chinese grandmother, how would she would have reacted if her son brought home
00:04:31.500 a black woman?
00:04:34.200 Yeah, she wouldn't be.
00:04:36.100 She wouldn't be happy at all, right?
00:04:38.040 Exactly.
00:04:38.720 You feel me?
00:04:39.520 Like.
00:04:39.980 Now you did it?
00:04:41.140 That was pretty good, right?
00:04:41.880 That was great.
00:04:42.640 Oh, okay.
00:04:43.060 That was, like, really candy.
00:04:43.940 And you can speak to how, like, people, even in our generation, right, look at their Chinese
00:04:51.460 daughter bringing home a white man versus a black man.
00:04:54.780 Yeah.
00:04:55.240 You feel me?
00:04:55.780 So, like, I'm not just, like, saying shit.
00:04:58.820 Yo, can I say some funny shit my grandpa said, bro?
00:05:00.740 What?
00:05:02.160 It's just funny.
00:05:03.600 I went back, and I ain't seen them in, like, two years because they've been so free of
00:05:06.980 COVID.
00:05:08.420 They, like, they pull up to the screen door.
00:05:10.340 I saw them once, and they came up with N95, and I'm like, oh, be careful, don't throw
00:05:14.500 away.
00:05:14.800 Like, just, like, and then Mother's Day, I pulled up.
00:05:17.020 We go to this restaurant that we always eat at.
00:05:18.960 And then my grandfather, like, he recognized I'm starting to make money and shit like that.
00:05:22.680 He's, like, he's been proud of me.
00:05:23.680 And he knew I got a new car, but he ain't seen me in two years.
00:05:26.980 And so, I missed your new car.
00:05:28.940 I pull up.
00:05:29.480 You know the car I have.
00:05:30.380 It's, like, a loud white Charger.
00:05:32.400 What accent is that you're doing?
00:05:33.700 Filipino.
00:05:34.180 That's exactly what they sound like.
00:05:35.280 That was pretty good, no?
00:05:36.680 I don't know.
00:05:37.200 You know what I'm talking about?
00:05:38.140 No, be careful.
00:05:38.840 You're, like, kind of Indian.
00:05:39.920 No, don't throw.
00:05:41.960 Is that what he says?
00:05:42.640 Be careful.
00:05:43.120 Be careful with your car.
00:05:44.800 No, you know what he's saying?
00:05:45.760 Filipinos, you know what the fuck I'm talking about.
00:05:49.140 So, I pull up.
00:05:49.780 I pull up.
00:05:50.220 And I'm, like, I start revving the edge and, like, pull up to the restaurant.
00:05:52.360 And I see their faces.
00:05:53.720 Like, the Asian whore.
00:05:55.200 Like, the tattoo.
00:05:57.120 Anything.
00:05:58.900 And my grandfather leans in after my grandma freaks out.
00:06:02.140 He goes, be careful with that in the black neighborhood.
00:06:05.220 And I'm, like, and I was just, like, you know what?
00:06:08.600 That was generational.
00:06:10.440 And it was, like, that was good.
00:06:11.760 I'm glad he gave me that man-to-man.
00:06:13.460 Like, I knew he was going to say something like that.
00:06:15.940 But it was cool to see, like, oh, look, I'm mature enough so that he can, like, privately tell me racism.
00:06:21.200 And not be afraid anymore.
00:06:22.640 Like, that's how old I am.
00:06:23.500 But to y'all's credit, is it, like, it's also, like, a black dad is telling his black son that same thing about driving through a white neighborhood with a straight pipe?
00:06:34.500 You feel me?
00:06:35.520 Like, I'm saying, like, it's also, it's, maybe it's also a bit, it is fair, bro.
00:06:42.580 Like, why a black man tells his black son, yo, be careful how you move in certain white neighborhoods.
00:06:47.460 That's out of fear of his son's safety.
00:06:52.480 So it's not because that black man hates white people or think they're all evil.
00:06:57.800 But he's, like, you never know.
00:07:00.200 You got to be careful.
00:07:00.980 So I'm thinking that is the same energy coming from, like, Asians towards black.
00:07:05.580 It's not, like, Asian people necessarily hate black people.
00:07:08.460 Do you think there's a push to get us, like, do you, why is this, like, so, because this wasn't here a couple years ago.
00:07:14.440 Bro, yeah, bro, it's the stop Asian hate shit.
00:07:17.600 No, but let me ask you a question.
00:07:19.440 Was, did you feel the tension, do you feel the tension between Asian?
00:07:23.620 Nah, I feel like we're disconnected as cultures.
00:07:26.280 I feel like we don't really interact.
00:07:27.480 Yeah, that's the Texas talking.
00:07:31.180 Oh.
00:07:31.680 Yeah.
00:07:32.500 If you're in New York, yo, black New Yorkers in the chat or Asian New Yorkers in the chat, you feel a sort of tension.
00:07:38.020 Do you know what we, you know what I'm talking about.
00:07:40.460 Yeah, dude, I mean, do you feel the tension?
00:07:42.360 Yeah.
00:07:42.840 You do.
00:07:43.220 I mean, I feel there was always some tension.
00:07:45.520 It's definitely, it's tripled since COVID.
00:07:47.780 Can I read this real quick?
00:07:48.720 Thank you, 10, Mavincio, Big Up Sosniko, Don, and China Mac.
00:07:51.580 Don is right.
00:07:52.400 As one who comes from a Jamaican family, Jamaicans couldn't care less how you look.
00:07:55.780 Proud of the success you guys have and keep leveling.
00:07:57.800 Thank you.
00:07:58.660 Slideslick, thank you for the 20.
00:07:59.620 I do think America divides and conquers all the minorities, though.
00:08:02.700 The difference between races are always amplified, but deep down, we're just humans.
00:08:06.180 By the way, I was an international student there for seven years since high school.
00:08:09.100 Tell me your whole life in this shit.
00:08:12.060 Thank you for the five.
00:08:12.820 Which work?
00:08:13.300 Thank you for the five.
00:08:13.980 Slideslick.
00:08:14.300 That was a lot of words.
00:08:16.660 Did you get any of that information, or was I just rattling off words?
00:08:20.240 No, I caught that.
00:08:21.860 Someone's agreeing with the whole how Jamaicans are, and then the other person was talking
00:08:25.960 about the fact that, yeah, there seems to be an agenda, an effort to divide our cultures,
00:08:33.000 to amplify our differences and put down our similarities.
00:08:36.460 So you do feel that there's some type of push?
00:08:40.900 Oh, yeah.
00:08:41.420 It's an agenda, for sure.
00:08:42.700 Right.
00:08:42.940 I 100% agree.
00:08:44.300 And did you feel this push before?
00:08:50.500 Not this specific one.
00:08:52.440 Right.
00:08:52.860 Not this specific one.
00:08:54.120 This is pretty sensitive.
00:08:55.200 Yeah, the Asian black thing.
00:08:56.980 Yeah.
00:08:57.440 In particular?
00:08:58.260 Yeah.
00:08:58.600 I mean, I was saying before, there's always been some, but that I feel just born out of
00:09:03.860 that disconnect.
00:09:06.580 This is, I mean.
00:09:08.040 I feel like there's now more of a, like, low key, that's kind of what I, that, what Sneeko's
00:09:16.140 initial video about this whole thing came off as, to me.
00:09:20.360 What did it come off?
00:09:21.500 It came off as, the thing Sneeko is saying could further the divide between the Asian, young
00:09:30.020 Asian community and the young black community.
00:09:32.020 And, you know, because I felt like you were holding the greater black community accountable for something that we, we shouldn't all be held accountable for.
00:09:42.460 I'm trying to get rid of the tension.
00:09:43.680 I think that that video, and if more people see it, hopefully, like, we could just stop
00:09:47.780 living in the bullshit and, like, pretending like there isn't, like, we, that was just
00:09:51.660 acknowledging that there is something.
00:09:53.180 I think part of the tension is that no one's even saying anything.
00:09:55.480 It's, like, we're doing these protests and stuff like that.
00:09:57.600 That's a good point.
00:09:58.320 We're quiet about it.
00:09:58.940 So, it's the first step is just addressing it.
00:10:01.200 Because if you're in New York, you know what the fuck.
00:10:03.560 I don't know if any of the chat replied, but if you're in New York, you feel it.
00:10:06.700 But he's in Houston, so he doesn't feel, he doesn't have a, he's not.
00:10:11.160 Yeah, but blacks and Asians don't really have to coexist there.
00:10:13.160 Right.
00:10:14.600 It's a little different over here.
00:10:16.280 And then he was saying, like, in the, when we went on the stream, that all my experiences
00:10:19.600 were anecdotal and that I was, like, brainwashed by the media.
00:10:21.960 And I'm like, nah, bro.
00:10:23.400 Like, you really need to talk to people to find out.
00:10:25.900 And I know I do that.
00:10:27.600 And he, like, overall, your argument was that, like, you can't value anecdotal evidence
00:10:32.120 over statistics.
00:10:33.500 And, like, do you disagree with that now?
00:10:35.260 Or do you still think that anecdotal evidence is irrelevant?
00:10:39.060 No, I never thought it was irrelevant.
00:10:40.780 I didn't think it was strong enough to win an argument.
00:10:44.360 You feel me?
00:10:44.840 But, like, definitely grassroots matters.
00:10:49.340 You know what I mean?
00:10:49.880 Definitely what people feel and how they think on the ground matters.
00:10:53.720 And so, like, I wasn't able to appreciate that as much, partly because, to your point, I
00:10:59.160 never really saw it or hear it from anyone.
00:11:01.080 But in talking to my people who came from New York and talking to y'all since getting here,
00:11:06.460 walking around.
00:11:07.600 Yeah, it brought them to the train station.
00:11:08.860 We talked to, like, every person that came by.
00:11:10.220 Yeah, we talked to, like, a dozen different random Asian dudes.
00:11:13.120 Often, like, who do you think is doing the crimes?
00:11:14.780 Like, what race is it?
00:11:15.380 And what were they saying?
00:11:16.860 It was a mix of everything.
00:11:17.720 Yeah, you know, but they were, like, they acknowledged.
00:11:20.220 Did somebody say black people?
00:11:21.940 Oh, sorry.
00:11:22.300 Every single one of them.
00:11:23.340 Yeah.
00:11:23.840 At first, they were hesitant.
00:11:25.440 Sometimes, oh, it's a mix.
00:11:26.680 They would dance around it.
00:11:27.680 And that's what I was pointing out.
00:11:29.640 I would always be the one to call it out because I'm like, you probably also might be seeing
00:11:33.700 this because I'm standing right here.
00:11:34.840 And so, I'll be like, oh, but you really think it's black people, though, right?
00:11:39.780 And then they'll go, nah.
00:11:42.360 And then they open up about it.
00:11:44.580 And then they start saying, yeah, you know, well, if we're going based off what we're seeing
00:11:48.500 on the videos, it's mostly black people, da, da, da.
00:11:51.140 And, like, yeah, so there's this perception that it's all.
00:11:53.760 And I.
00:11:54.560 So, do you think that this is going on?
00:11:57.720 Oh, yeah, 100%.
00:11:58.780 I think it's going on.
00:11:59.640 Yeah, I definitely believe.
00:12:00.720 So, you're not in denial that something like that there are attacks.
00:12:04.840 No, I never disputed that there were attacks.
00:12:07.820 My dispute with Sneaker was the, where it was coming from, the place it was coming from.
00:12:13.140 You know what I mean?
00:12:13.660 Why do you think these attacks are happening?
00:12:15.280 Because there is a lack of law and order in this state.
00:12:20.660 Yeah, I feel like, you know, it's the same thing that's happening.
00:12:24.680 You heard of the Kia boys in Milwaukee?
00:12:26.940 The hundreds of, like, minors that are jacking and stealing cars and doing joyrides in Milwaukee.
00:12:38.860 Like, it's a phenomena going on right now for the last year.
00:12:42.360 Over 10,000 Kias and, I believe, Chevys, they've, like, stolen and taken.
00:12:47.440 They just, but they don't steal them to, like, break them down and sell them.
00:12:50.480 They steal them, go on joyrides, wreck the city, wreck the cars.
00:12:54.260 You know, they're flipping shit.
00:12:56.020 It's just, like, they're new because they hold you for, I think they said, three weeks.
00:13:00.400 Because it's a misdemeanor to do a joyride.
00:13:03.340 And when they're a minor, you know, you're not held to the same extent of law.
00:13:07.400 So, they just be in and out of, like, jail.
00:13:11.100 And they're just doing, that's, like, the fun thing.
00:13:12.920 Instead of going to the park to hoop, you got little niggas just running around, breaking in.
00:13:18.000 I'm just saying, like, that is a result of a lack of law and order.
00:13:23.660 Sure, you could look at other things, like the family unit and da-da-da.
00:13:26.520 But the quickest, easiest fix for that is people need to feel like there are consequences to their actions.
00:13:32.260 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:13:33.760 And so, like, why is it so easy for people to...
00:13:37.440 People think that there's consequences for their actions.
00:13:39.080 People just don't give a fuck anymore.
00:13:40.860 I don't know.
00:13:41.120 People definitely think that there's consequences for their actions in New York.
00:13:43.920 This is one of the biggest police states ever.
00:13:46.140 I don't know, bro.
00:13:46.780 If a dude thought that...
00:13:47.920 These blackheads don't give a fuck about life.
00:13:50.060 They gave up on everything.
00:13:51.180 Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, if these people thought, oh, if I hit this woman in the back of her head with a brick.
00:13:56.760 Or even now that, if I push down this woman, I could get at least 10 years.
00:14:00.800 Which, I feel like there are a lot of people who would think twice about doing it.
00:14:04.480 And knowing that, and knowing, not just knowing that I could get 10 years, but someone's going to be looking for me.
00:14:09.840 Nah, bro.
00:14:10.300 You know what I mean?
00:14:10.820 For people to start doing stuff like that, they've given up on caring about that.
00:14:14.480 Like, same reason that they started, like, pew-pewing in schools.
00:14:16.920 Like, those people just gave up on life.
00:14:19.440 Bro, that shit could not happen where I live.
00:14:20.700 The consequences are very obvious.
00:14:22.560 That shit cannot happen where I live in Texas, bro.
00:14:24.820 What?
00:14:25.360 It cannot.
00:14:26.300 Didn't it happen in Texas?
00:14:27.260 Not, like, on this mass scale that it's happening.
00:14:30.400 There is no law and order here, bro.
00:14:33.180 You know what I'm saying?
00:14:33.980 That shit could not happen where I live in Texas, bro.
00:14:36.060 Fucking, like, you'd get caught up with the police, bro.
00:14:40.140 For sure.
00:14:40.820 Like, you couldn't just have black people.
00:14:42.980 You would have so many cops on the streets.
00:14:45.800 Like, every street, bro.
00:14:47.700 If you had those random criminals harassing, like, innocent people.
00:14:53.760 Just like that.
00:14:54.360 Like, of course, the hood is always the hood, and certain areas of certain cities are always fucked.
00:15:01.140 But just, like, if this is happening just, like, anywhere, everywhere, that's crazy, bro.
00:15:07.540 That's out of hand.
00:15:09.180 So, what if you've seen attacks, like, the other way around?
00:15:16.740 What if you've seen these type of attacks going on towards black people from other races?
00:15:23.080 What do you mean?
00:15:24.300 Like, let's say, like, these 89-year-old black grandmothers.
00:15:28.420 It doesn't happen.
00:15:29.720 They start getting attacked.
00:15:31.260 By who?
00:15:31.760 Like, by other races.
00:15:32.580 They don't.
00:15:33.240 Do 89-year-old grandmothers get attacked?
00:15:35.480 What?
00:15:35.780 Black grandmothers do, like, old black.
00:15:37.040 I mean, I'm pretty sure that happens.
00:15:38.860 Does it?
00:15:39.480 I'm pretty sure it happens.
00:15:40.720 Yeah.
00:15:41.400 They're easy targets.
00:15:42.540 But, like...
00:15:43.000 You've heard that black grandmas getting...
00:15:45.080 You don't think black grandmas...
00:15:46.600 I haven't heard of a story.
00:15:47.680 Have you heard of a story like that?
00:15:49.480 I mean...
00:15:50.080 I'm asking.
00:15:50.740 This is Miami bullshit.
00:15:51.800 I'm telling you that old people get robbed, bro.
00:15:53.920 That's a fact.
00:15:54.140 But have you heard of an old grandma getting pushed over...
00:15:56.460 An old black grandma getting in with a brick or punched in the head?
00:16:00.020 Not something specific I can remember because...
00:16:03.000 No, I can't think of, like, 50 Asian grandmas.
00:16:04.360 Yeah, because it has been attached to a greater narrative.
00:16:07.400 Right.
00:16:07.800 That's a lot of grandmas, bro.
00:16:08.960 He's right, though.
00:16:10.100 He's right.
00:16:10.500 Because since I asked myself that question, right?
00:16:13.940 But since I asked myself that question, I was attentive to other news, too, outside of the newsworthy shit, right?
00:16:25.140 And I've seen, like, you know...
00:16:27.280 Crazy shit is happening to everybody.
00:16:29.320 You know what I'm saying?
00:16:30.320 You think I got a bias that I'm always seeing too many...
00:16:33.500 No, I'm just saying...
00:16:35.080 I just think that on your radar is what's coming up is what's going on to the Asian people.
00:16:40.600 Because I'm not...
00:16:41.220 I'm tuned into...
00:16:41.840 And I'm not saying that it's not happening to us in whatever capacity.
00:16:47.600 You know what I'm saying?
00:16:48.700 I'm not saying that.
00:16:49.820 What I'm saying is that it's not just happening to us.
00:16:52.900 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:16:53.920 Like, there are old grandmas being attacked daily on the train station, daily going back on the block, like...
00:17:00.040 And not particularly Asian people are snatching their pocketbooks.
00:17:03.680 People are doing shit to them, too, right now.
00:17:05.760 Women...
00:17:06.560 I think the highest that I've seen, like, in terms of New York City, like, subway crimes, like, rapes...
00:17:12.820 Like, I think all of that shit is up.
00:17:14.720 And it's not just towards Asian people.
00:17:20.160 But because it's attached to a greater narrative, every time it is an Asian person, whether it was race-related or not...
00:17:27.280 Yeah.
00:17:27.840 It's going to look like that.
00:17:29.320 Exactly.
00:17:29.580 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:30.040 Because, you know, and in the bill that, you know, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, like, when black people, when I discuss this matter with black people, they bring up this bill.
00:17:40.920 Yeah.
00:17:41.300 What is that bill even?
00:17:42.400 And what did it do?
00:17:44.040 Do you know?
00:17:45.280 I mean...
00:17:45.640 I don't know about that bill.
00:17:46.580 So there was a bill that was passed that, what is it, that, about the Asian hate crimes.
00:17:55.320 Right.
00:17:56.180 Right.
00:17:57.000 So that...
00:17:58.040 When people do a crime towards Asians, they would get the hate crime.
00:18:03.960 It would be attached as a hate crime.
00:18:05.960 And that would be the same thing as, like, doing something to...
00:18:08.740 LGBT...
00:18:09.740 Am I missing out of that?
00:18:14.200 LGBT...
00:18:14.920 What is it?
00:18:18.220 LGBT...
00:18:18.700 What?
00:18:20.740 All right.
00:18:21.040 I'm not going to say that.
00:18:21.500 LGBT...
00:18:23.380 All right.
00:18:23.700 Whatever.
00:18:27.120 Yeah, yeah, nah.
00:18:28.340 Point in...
00:18:29.280 But...
00:18:29.920 But...
00:18:30.460 But...
00:18:30.880 You understand what I'm saying?
00:18:32.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:32.820 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:33.600 Okay, so it just made it so that anytime you attack an Asian, they're going to tack on a hate crime charge to it.
00:18:42.440 Not anytime, but they're going to, like, that's a thing now.
00:18:46.680 You know what I mean?
00:18:47.080 And we get...
00:18:47.540 Right.
00:18:47.560 There is an Asian hate crime bill.
00:18:49.520 So that wasn't in place before?
00:18:50.900 No, I'm not saying it.
00:18:51.360 It wasn't.
00:18:52.080 It wasn't.
00:18:53.080 Do black people have one of those?
00:18:55.240 I don't think so.
00:18:57.520 That would have been...
00:18:58.740 I could see why that would be upsetting.
00:19:00.620 Right.
00:19:01.000 For the black community.
00:19:02.360 Okay.
00:19:02.620 If anybody...
00:19:03.620 Deserves to have something like that already put in place, you know, it'd be black people.
00:19:09.000 After all of the stuff, the trauma that black people went in.
00:19:13.540 Just throughout history, like, it'd be kind of crazy that in a month, Asians got that shit.
00:19:21.540 Taken care of?
00:19:22.680 That's kind of crazy.
00:19:23.740 Right.
00:19:24.680 Mm-hmm.
00:19:26.740 So...
00:19:27.460 Why do you think that is, though?
00:19:29.320 Why do you think that is?
00:19:30.100 And then, like, you know, because black people are...
00:19:32.800 There's a lot of black people that are upset at Asian people for this.
00:19:36.940 Mm-hmm.
00:19:37.480 You know what I'm saying?
00:19:38.280 Like...
00:19:38.560 Are there?
00:19:39.220 Yeah.
00:19:39.960 Of course.
00:19:40.240 I don't know if they are.
00:19:41.040 No, there are.
00:19:41.560 There are.
00:19:42.120 I've been...
00:19:42.560 I've been...
00:19:43.320 I get it, too.
00:19:44.040 They're, like, upset at Asian people, or are they just, like...
00:19:47.160 Or for saying...
00:19:47.800 Well, they're not upset, but they're just, like, how the fuck y'all get that shit
00:19:50.800 before us?
00:19:51.520 Like, what's up with this fucking bib?
00:19:53.820 Yeah.
00:19:54.380 But that ain't nothing new for black people.
00:19:56.000 So I don't feel like anyone, like...
00:19:58.120 This is status quo for the black experience in America.
00:20:01.920 So I don't think any black...
00:20:03.280 Like, I think the attitude by more black people when you'd say to them is to be, like, well,
00:20:07.660 yeah, of course.
00:20:08.320 That's how that works.
00:20:08.940 Yeah, but here's the thing.
00:20:09.960 But now you have an Asian person saying it to you.
00:20:13.320 So it's kind of like that you're saying it, too.
00:20:15.140 So it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like when it's like that...
00:20:29.520 Hold on.
00:20:30.500 I kind of...
00:20:31.440 No, no.
00:20:32.060 I feel you, like...
00:20:33.160 What was he saying?
00:20:34.320 So I was saying how, like, that's, like, status quo for the black...
00:20:39.760 Yeah, no, it's like status quo for the black community, like, oh, just like how, you know,
00:20:44.880 LGBTQ kind of came along and got certain things put in place for them faster than, like, the
00:20:57.580 black community.
00:20:58.420 Right.
00:20:58.700 So now check it.
00:20:59.740 This is what I'm saying, right?
00:21:00.680 What I'm saying is, man, we all understand who runs the show.
00:21:06.940 We always knew that.
00:21:08.060 Like, we all understand who runs the show, right?
00:21:10.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:10.680 So now we all understand who runs the show.
00:21:13.120 It's not Asian people that passed that bill.
00:21:16.340 We didn't pass that bill.
00:21:18.020 Yeah.
00:21:18.540 Because Asian people aren't in the White House like that.
00:21:21.380 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:21.820 There's probably one.
00:21:22.960 You know what I mean?
00:21:23.940 But so we didn't pass that bill.
00:21:27.160 So it's kind of like, okay, we got the bill, but what does the bill really do for us?
00:21:33.240 Because the bill passed two years.
00:21:34.640 I don't think the bill is worth shit.
00:21:36.140 The bill ain't doing shit.
00:21:36.700 What?
00:21:36.860 It just, it further divides.
00:21:40.160 Yeah, it does.
00:21:41.360 It further divides and it is symbolic.
00:21:45.600 It is symbolic.
00:21:47.160 It does feel, that's why I think black people are more, it's not like I think black people
00:21:51.760 think that if we get some kind of hate crime bill put in place, it's going to improve the
00:21:55.920 life of the average black person, but it is symbolic of like the people in charge acknowledging
00:22:02.920 the grievances of, you know, a group of people in this country.
00:22:07.040 And that's really, not a single, if this old Asian woman was going to get harassed tomorrow and
00:22:14.620 this bill got put in place today, she's still going to get harassed tomorrow.
00:22:17.980 But that bill is symbolic of the larger, more powerful government and the people in power
00:22:26.200 acknowledging, oh, you know, we see you, we hear you, you matter.
00:22:33.180 That's really all that, you know, that I think is the thing.
00:22:36.720 If you boil down every grievance the average black person has of, you know, the way they
00:22:41.380 feel treated by society, it just comes down to feeling like we don't matter.
00:22:45.440 Right.
00:22:45.860 Or we don't matter as much.
00:22:47.240 So do you feel like that, um, do you feel like that we, we get like the Asian people
00:22:54.620 are like blamed for some of that?
00:23:00.360 Like people like, like it's taken out on us.
00:23:05.000 Yeah.
00:23:05.920 Yeah.
00:23:06.400 I mean, because if we, we understand, we understand it ain't nobody ever like Asian people never
00:23:12.940 Asian people never in America, Asian people never put black people.
00:23:17.240 Like never oppressed black people.
00:23:19.380 Sure.
00:23:19.840 Yeah.
00:23:20.040 You might get, we might look at you a certain way in the store.
00:23:23.280 Yeah.
00:23:23.580 You know what I'm saying?
00:23:24.040 We might give you a fucking, we might give you some attitude.
00:23:27.660 Right.
00:23:28.040 But we never oppressed you.
00:23:29.680 I would agree.
00:23:30.600 Yeah.
00:23:30.740 Right.
00:23:31.580 Never, no foreign fashion, whatever.
00:23:34.040 Sure.
00:23:34.400 Right.
00:23:34.920 So for, for, for this, for this such an outrage on us at this time is like, damn, well,
00:23:43.580 we, we, we're not responsible for that position.
00:23:46.320 You know what I'm saying?
00:23:47.660 So, and yeah.
00:23:48.520 And, and, and, and somebody else told me, well, you partake in that, like in that, you
00:23:53.840 know, in that, I think it comes back to what we're saying about the model, um, the model
00:24:01.500 minority.
00:24:02.380 I think it comes, it's not that black people feel that they were oppressed by Asians in
00:24:07.020 America.
00:24:07.680 Let me specify that.
00:24:08.700 This is very specific to like the American experience.
00:24:11.080 Right.
00:24:11.320 Cause this relation, this dynamic does not exist between like Asians in Jamaica and blacks
00:24:17.180 in Jamaica.
00:24:17.680 So I'll stream.
00:24:19.300 Yeah.
00:24:19.700 Yeah.
00:24:19.900 Yeah.
00:24:20.000 I'm sorry.
00:24:20.420 But I hate myself.
00:24:22.400 Yeah.
00:24:22.800 But I think what it is, is they, there's this feeling of like looking down upon.
00:24:34.420 Like that, that, that, what do you mean?
00:24:36.660 Like there's this feeling that there are some Asians that feel like they feel like they're
00:24:42.840 better than black people in this country, right?
00:24:45.400 The model minor, where the good minorities, you know what I'm saying?
00:24:48.220 Like we don't do the crimes.
00:24:50.040 We all get great grades in school.
00:24:51.820 We don't break the law, you know?
00:24:53.640 And so in wanting to, it's kind of like playing teacher's pet, you know what I mean?
00:24:59.160 Nobody likes teacher's pet.
00:25:01.180 Hmm.
00:25:01.760 You feel me?
00:25:02.520 So you think that the model minority myth is real?
00:25:05.940 Yeah, definitely.
00:25:06.980 I believe you.
00:25:08.500 Who?
00:25:09.980 Are you looking at yourself?
00:25:11.140 I'm looking at the chat, bro.
00:25:12.180 So do you think that the model minority exists?
00:25:15.880 Yeah, we are.
00:25:16.780 I mean, half of me, Asians, shut up.
00:25:19.300 I don't know.
00:25:20.780 Yeah, there's, Asians are the model minority.
00:25:24.140 And I would just realize like talking about this, it's not just that Asians are afraid
00:25:28.820 of black people.
00:25:30.360 I think a lot of Asians do kind of have a little bit of a superiority complex toward them.
00:25:34.720 Do you think Asians think black people are smart?
00:25:39.860 For the most part, not really.
00:25:42.180 They kind of lump you into that stereotype, right?
00:25:44.560 Right.
00:25:44.660 They lump you into the dumb stereotype of a black American.
00:25:47.700 And that's why they kind of don't align with a lot of what you say.
00:25:50.360 Right.
00:25:50.620 They think that you're like an animal.
00:25:52.840 They think you're wild.
00:25:53.780 Like, they get mad when you like, you have bitches twerking and shit like that.
00:25:56.540 You say crazy shit.
00:25:57.500 When you have a dating show.
00:25:58.920 Like stuff, the black culture part is what they think they look down upon a little bit.
00:26:03.860 And that's the model minority fucking spot.
00:26:07.080 That's what you get to do.
00:26:08.000 Be in the number one spot that white people like.
00:26:09.700 You get to kind of condescend in the same way that they do.
00:26:14.020 Yeah.
00:26:14.760 And then also, I feel like there is this desire to not to distance themselves from black people.
00:26:20.680 Like, they also don't want to be perceived as like the same as.
00:26:25.500 So, not only is there that sense that they're looking down, the Asian community is looking down on the black community.
00:26:32.340 But you take it a step further.
00:26:34.180 They want to make sure the white people don't associate the two.
00:26:38.520 They see them higher above in the social hierarchy.
00:26:42.940 You know what I'm saying?
00:26:43.580 More respectable.
00:26:45.260 More people you can work with.
00:26:47.180 People, you know, less likely to, you know, do certain crimes and things like that.
00:26:53.360 You know, they're smarter.
00:26:55.260 You know, all of that shit.
00:26:57.860 You know, oh, two-parent households.
00:27:01.420 Kids play violin.
00:27:03.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:27:04.120 And it's like.
00:27:05.060 You ever play violin growing up?
00:27:06.980 Never.
00:27:07.260 Yeah.
00:27:07.800 You know?
00:27:08.880 Nah, he didn't.
00:27:10.500 He didn't really go like other, like, classic Asian way.
00:27:13.600 Yeah, no, I didn't.
00:27:14.580 Definitely didn't.
00:27:15.480 I mean, I had opportunity to, but I wasn't interested in that shit.
00:27:19.060 And I know that, actually, I think it's not 10%.
00:27:22.260 I think it might be 10% of the Asian community lives under the poverty line.
00:27:26.540 So, I know that's not the reality of every Asian.
00:27:29.560 But in terms of generalizations and stereotypes, I think that's what it is.
00:27:34.320 Because I feel like, you know, I'm certainly different from the stereotype of a black guy, a 27-year-old black guy.
00:27:43.040 You know what I mean?
00:27:45.060 Or at least I don't align with a lot of the stereotypes.
00:27:47.980 I love science.
00:27:48.980 I love reading.
00:27:49.680 Do you think that, do you think that black people, you know, normal black people accept you?
00:27:55.340 Yeah.
00:27:55.660 Yeah.
00:27:56.140 Yeah.
00:27:56.500 Yeah.
00:27:56.740 Yeah.
00:27:57.040 Yeah.
00:27:57.560 Because I feel, I am a black man.
00:27:59.480 Right.
00:28:00.100 But nobody calls you white even.
00:28:02.380 Nobody even thinks that.
00:28:03.100 Nobody even does that, huh?
00:28:04.240 No.
00:28:04.760 No.
00:28:05.340 Because, like, we're not a monolith.
00:28:09.480 You know what I mean?
00:28:10.040 And we recognize that among each other.
00:28:13.200 You know what I mean?
00:28:13.960 So, but that's not what society sees.
00:28:17.440 Society doesn't see the variation.
00:28:19.860 Right.
00:28:20.300 You know?
00:28:20.780 Society just sees one.
00:28:22.100 Yeah.
00:28:22.420 And then when they.
00:28:23.520 Society is just, like, you know, different.
00:28:26.080 Our marriage.
00:28:26.880 Different places.
00:28:27.920 Mm-hmm.
00:28:28.420 You know what I'm saying?
00:28:28.960 Because, you know, like, I could experience, like, all of my experiences with black people
00:28:36.100 would be, like, nothing like you.
00:28:38.580 You know what I'm saying?
00:28:39.220 All of my, every other experience other than you with black people could be one way and then
00:28:46.000 you could just be that one person.
00:28:47.240 Well, versus if I lived wherever you were from or whatever, everybody would be like you.
00:28:52.020 Yeah.
00:28:52.240 I know a lot of niggas just like me.
00:28:53.980 Right.
00:28:54.420 Yeah.
00:28:55.320 Yeah.
00:28:56.000 You know?
00:28:56.340 So, it's like.
00:28:57.220 But, see, where I'm from, you would be different.
00:28:59.380 Mm-hmm.
00:29:00.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:29:00.680 Like, you wouldn't be.
00:29:03.160 You would be different.
00:29:04.320 You know what I'm saying?
00:29:05.120 What was your, what was the crossroads in your life where you had the opportunity to
00:29:08.000 become an Asian classic violin playing and then you didn't?
00:29:15.020 What was that opportunity, that temptation?
00:29:16.820 You probably had the temptation to probably, like, start doing Husha too and then you decided
00:29:20.060 to not do YouTube.
00:29:21.200 You never had that?
00:29:21.840 Never.
00:29:22.300 But you had, like.
00:29:22.980 I've always, like, glorified it to a degree.
00:29:24.560 No, I never wanted to do that.
00:29:26.080 I never wanted.
00:29:26.940 You never had the 10th, uh, the pull?
00:29:28.840 No.
00:29:29.240 From your peers?
00:29:30.480 No.
00:29:31.060 Yeah, me either.
00:29:31.720 I never wanted to.
00:29:33.060 Well, you never had the opportunity to choose one or the other?
00:29:35.560 Or, like, were you made the.
00:29:36.920 You said that, like, man, I didn't want to do that shit.
00:29:38.660 Yeah, but.
00:29:39.080 When was that decision?
00:29:40.960 Like, if there was a.
00:29:42.080 Because, you know, my cousins might have money.
00:29:44.500 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:29:45.280 I had rich cousins and rich, like, aunts.
00:29:49.780 But we were never rich.
00:29:50.900 So, I would see the shit they would be doing, like, in passing.
00:29:55.000 Like, oh, okay, yeah.
00:29:56.720 But that's not available for me.
00:29:59.480 Unless I really wanted it to be available for me.
00:30:02.140 I'm pretty sure if I would have been like, oh, I want to play the violin with her.
00:30:06.400 Yeah.
00:30:06.820 You know.
00:30:07.160 So, I'm pretty sure they would have probably made the adjustments and made it happen.
00:30:12.220 You know what I mean?
00:30:13.100 But it just wasn't.
00:30:14.400 How did you.
00:30:15.020 Did you grow up in the hood?
00:30:18.240 No.
00:30:18.800 I mean, I grew up from so, like, from birth to, like, eight years old.
00:30:25.700 I grew up in, like, no, seven years old.
00:30:27.920 I grew up in, like, a Chinese, like, house.
00:30:31.960 Like, not even house, but family.
00:30:33.860 Like, you know.
00:30:34.300 It was, everybody spoke Chinese.
00:30:36.540 My mother, like, we didn't have other friends.
00:30:39.800 In Chinatown?
00:30:40.500 It was in Chinatown, Queens.
00:30:43.260 You know.
00:30:43.960 She, everybody was Chinese coming.
00:30:46.080 Like, you know, it was, I just spoke Chinese.
00:30:48.600 Did you ever see black people when you were that young?
00:30:51.400 I didn't.
00:30:51.920 I mean, I probably seen them, like, outside, walking by.
00:30:54.700 But it wasn't an interaction.
00:30:56.280 Yeah.
00:30:56.800 And you know what I'm saying?
00:30:57.500 And when I did have an interaction, it was, like, kind of shunned upon.
00:31:02.200 You know what I mean?
00:31:02.880 As a kid.
00:31:03.760 You feel me?
00:31:04.640 So, then I get locked up.
00:31:07.020 Then I go into.
00:31:10.000 So, how did you end up, because I'm imagining, were you a part of, like, a Chinese gang?
00:31:15.640 Yeah, I was.
00:31:16.700 So, I grew up around the Chinese gangs and all that shit, right?
00:31:20.680 So, I didn't really have a relationship.
00:31:24.320 Like, I didn't really understand black people and have, like, was exposed to black people until I was, like, eight years old.
00:31:30.500 And when I was eight, I went into a foster home, like a detention center type shit.
00:31:37.880 You know what I mean?
00:31:38.500 And I went from eight all the way to, like, you know, when I came out of prison.
00:31:44.160 I was in and out.
00:31:44.840 So, that's where I got my, like, you know, introduction and the building with the black culture.
00:31:53.700 You know what I'm saying?
00:31:54.040 And that's how I got familiar with the black culture.
00:31:56.520 You know what I'm saying?
00:31:57.100 It's inside.
00:31:58.560 You know what I mean?
00:31:58.900 So, but for the first eight years of my life, I was just straight Chinese kid, like, Chinese-American kid.
00:32:06.540 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:07.040 And I think Chinese was my first language.
00:32:09.740 I spoke Chinese before I spoke English.
00:32:11.680 You know what I mean?
00:32:12.540 And then I learned the hip-hop culture, like, you know, the black culture.
00:32:18.980 And...
00:32:19.380 So, when was China Mac born?
00:32:21.980 When did China Mac come into existence?
00:32:25.720 In prison.
00:32:26.800 In prison.
00:32:27.840 In prison?
00:32:28.760 Yeah, when I was in prison.
00:32:29.780 Like, right away or was it after a few years of being in there?
00:32:33.840 Nah, China Mac came, like, it was, like, a name that was given to me, like, in jest.
00:32:41.100 Yeah, yeah.
00:32:42.300 Because it was a gang called the Mac Bowlers.
00:32:45.100 Mm-hmm.
00:32:45.620 And that gang was trying to get me to be, join that gang.
00:32:49.880 But I never wanted to join the gang.
00:32:51.660 Mm-hmm.
00:32:52.180 You know what I mean?
00:32:52.560 But I fuck with them, but I never wanted to join the gang.
00:32:55.340 Yeah.
00:32:55.520 So, then they fucking was like, oh, that's the Mac.
00:32:57.760 That's the Mac.
00:32:58.320 That's China Mac.
00:32:59.120 That's China Mac.
00:32:59.740 Mm-hmm.
00:32:59.760 That's China...
00:33:00.080 So, they was calling me that.
00:33:01.500 And then, like, when I left prison, I decided to name my rap name.
00:33:07.040 I was going to go...
00:33:08.200 I made up my mind to do music.
00:33:10.340 Yeah.
00:33:10.540 And I was like, the name that I had was GK.
00:33:13.740 And I was like, China Mac is a better ring.
00:33:16.160 Mm-hmm.
00:33:16.320 So, I just went with that.
00:33:17.840 Yeah.
00:33:18.140 No, it's a good name.
00:33:19.240 Cool name.
00:33:20.640 Right.
00:33:21.640 So, do you think this relationship between Asian, do you think it's going to get better?
00:33:26.740 Do you think it's going to...
00:33:27.460 What do you think?
00:33:29.200 I do believe that, like, if we're looking at the patterns, I do believe things have to
00:33:36.460 get better.
00:33:37.200 I do believe things are constantly getting better.
00:33:39.640 The relationships between the different races and things like that.
00:33:44.140 It's not going to be a smooth transition or pretty, but I believe, like...
00:33:49.800 So, let me ask you a question.
00:33:51.080 Before, and I don't mean to cut you off, but I want to ask you something before we get
00:33:55.720 to...
00:33:56.200 Do you think that...
00:33:58.200 Do you think that that lady would have gave me the same reaction if I would have, like,
00:34:06.220 kind of, like, you know, got close to her like that?
00:34:10.080 Now, I'm not sure.
00:34:11.680 Before, I would have said definitely not.
00:34:13.500 Okay.
00:34:13.920 But now, I'm not sure.
00:34:15.300 What made you feel like that now?
00:34:17.080 You showed me that a lot of the ways in, like, you showed me that in that culture, they're
00:34:28.840 very, like, especially, like, the women and stuff, they don't want to be on camera.
00:34:35.100 They don't want to, like, you know what I'm saying?
00:34:36.360 They're very to themselves.
00:34:37.640 You feel me?
00:34:38.200 And are, you know...
00:34:40.000 And that's the culture.
00:34:41.040 I think they're guarded.
00:34:42.080 Right?
00:34:42.420 They're guarded.
00:34:42.880 Everyone is really guarded.
00:34:43.980 You feel me?
00:34:44.680 And in seeing you get, like...
00:34:48.000 Seeing you approach people to do the social experiment, it showed me that, oh, you know,
00:34:53.500 there are a lot of black people who have interacted with an Asian person, got this reaction,
00:34:58.000 and thought, oh, it's because I'm black.
00:35:00.100 But in seeing you interact with them, I will give it credit that, like, yes, I think the
00:35:05.200 black thing is a...
00:35:06.300 It adds a little something.
00:35:07.820 You feel me?
00:35:10.200 But it could...
00:35:11.280 It's also...
00:35:11.960 That's just their culture and how they are with strangers.
00:35:14.180 And you never knew that.
00:35:15.240 I didn't.
00:35:15.760 That's crazy.
00:35:16.460 Yeah.
00:35:16.840 I didn't know that at all.
00:35:18.000 That we did some fly shit today.
00:35:19.580 Yeah, we did.
00:35:20.300 We did.
00:35:20.760 Yeah, we did some fly shit today.
00:35:21.980 Yeah, no.
00:35:22.620 Let me be the...
00:35:23.700 As a, you know, a black person who just went through fleshing.
00:35:27.900 Yeah, fleshing.
00:35:28.480 Flesh, yeah, fleshing queens.
00:35:30.420 Yeah.
00:35:30.880 Yeah, yeah, fleshing, fleshing queens.
00:35:33.080 Like, we need some water.
00:35:33.920 Oh, okay.
00:35:34.640 We need some water.
00:35:35.200 Go ahead, bro.
00:35:35.540 Like, bro, it's like, I thought I was in China, bro.
00:35:38.880 I thought I was literally in China or Korea.
00:35:42.060 And fucking, yeah, we did a bunch of social experiments, and it showed me that, like,
00:35:48.760 you know, I really used to perceive those, like, that standoffish nature.
00:35:54.540 I used to think, oh, I felt that because I'm black.
00:35:57.900 You feel me?
00:35:59.220 But we did an experiment where China Mac did the exact same thing.
00:36:04.760 And the reactions he got, like I said, I felt were a little softer, but more the same
00:36:11.600 than different.
00:36:12.500 You know what I mean?
00:36:13.220 Like, more like...
00:36:15.240 Yeah, of course it wasn't the same.
00:36:16.880 Yeah.
00:36:17.180 But it just showed you that the base of it, the core of it, is not really racist.
00:36:23.680 Yeah.
00:36:23.780 It's just, that's the culture to be guarded.
00:36:26.580 Yeah.
00:36:27.000 I don't care if you look like me or not.
00:36:29.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:29.680 Like, of course, you know, if there's more similarity in their, like, their nature, you
00:36:36.560 know what I'm saying?
00:36:37.180 Like, the, you know, then they might, you know, because we open up to what's similar
00:36:41.540 to us.
00:36:42.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:42.380 Yeah.
00:36:42.780 So, I really, you know, a lot of times, like, because I was, I'd be going up to people,
00:36:48.900 Asian people, and like, I go in restaurants, and they'll just, like, close the door on me.
00:36:54.180 They'll be mad disrespectful Asian people.
00:36:56.480 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:36:57.080 And I'm like, I wish my black friends could see this, bro.
00:36:59.860 Yeah.
00:36:59.980 Because, like, you know what I mean?
00:37:01.400 Then it would kind of show, we would have an understanding.
00:37:04.580 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:05.120 And it's not like they know me or nothing.
00:37:06.620 It's just, you know what I mean?
00:37:07.640 Don't get, like, when we was filming earlier, we went into the Chinese store, they was,
00:37:11.480 like, shooting, hitting the window, banging at me, like, get off this shit.
00:37:15.280 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:16.000 Until they started seeing people coming in, like, yo, China Mac, yo, China Mac.
00:37:20.060 Then they want to be a little nice.
00:37:21.760 You know what I'm saying?
00:37:22.120 Yeah, exactly.
00:37:23.180 I'm like, yo, bro, you was just a whole dickhead.
00:37:25.200 And I'm glad that it was on camera that people saw that shit.
00:37:28.820 Like, you're a fucking dickhead, bro.
00:37:30.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:31.840 Nah, nah.
00:37:32.600 That was very eye-opening.
00:37:34.140 And so, that's why I'm real glad for that experience.
00:37:36.000 And, like, it does, I will say this, you know, like, I've said, oh, the traditional
00:37:42.680 Asian community has certain racist beliefs towards black people.
00:37:47.820 It's, I will say, it's a different, it's not like old school white supremacy type racism.
00:37:55.280 You know, I think it's born out of.
00:37:56.960 Racism is racism, but like you said, it's more fear than hatred.
00:38:00.780 I think it's more fear versus, like.
00:38:02.820 Check this out, right?
00:38:03.600 And I said, I think I said this to you, but this is some fly shit I'm about to say.
00:38:07.020 It's ignorance, but yeah.
00:38:08.880 So, like, I would say, I would say maybe 70% of the crimes committed from black people
00:38:17.640 towards Asian people are crimes of opportunity.
00:38:20.980 Yeah.
00:38:21.800 70%.
00:38:22.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:22.840 And I would say 80% to 90% of the crimes committed from white people towards Asian people would
00:38:29.540 be from what?
00:38:30.740 Hate.
00:38:31.920 Yeah, it would have to be hate.
00:38:33.420 Right.
00:38:33.720 It would have to be targeting them just because they're, if they're not robbing them or like,
00:38:37.900 you know.
00:38:38.420 Right, right.
00:38:38.640 So, white people are the bad people.
00:38:40.180 No, I'm just saying it's a different, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's different.
00:38:46.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:38:46.620 Like, there's a different driving force that is coming from these different places.
00:38:53.420 You know what I'm saying?
00:38:54.260 Like, a lot of these crimes that are happening from black people, I'm not saying all of them.
00:38:58.280 Right.
00:38:58.620 Because there are crimes that we see where just randomly they're just pushing a fucking
00:39:02.160 lady and then you're not grabbing her purse, you're not doing shit, you're just doing this
00:39:06.240 shit.
00:39:06.500 You know what I'm saying?
00:39:06.940 There's other people, oh, you fucking chink and cut you in your face.
00:39:10.340 Like, that's happening.
00:39:11.340 You know what I'm saying?
00:39:12.020 Yeah.
00:39:12.180 But, what's also happening and what's happening probably even more and being lumped in, all
00:39:18.200 in with Asian hate is crimes of opportunity.
00:39:21.500 You know what I'm saying?
00:39:22.140 Like, people going up to Asians because they know nine times out of ten, they ain't got
00:39:26.520 no gun on them.
00:39:27.520 You know what I'm saying?
00:39:28.020 That's what I should have did a better job expressing in the debate video.
00:39:30.480 You thought that I was coming in, like, trying to, like, label, I was just trying to tell
00:39:34.160 you that the movement, like, yes, I was trying to tell you, like, generally, this is what's
00:39:39.700 happening.
00:39:40.680 More often not, that's most of it.
00:39:42.060 It's the crimes of opportunity on older, like, weak Asians.
00:39:45.480 Right.
00:39:45.900 That's the majority of the stop Asian hate crimes.
00:39:48.780 You know what I realized?
00:39:50.980 What you were getting at from the jump, it wasn't the whole, oh, black people are racist
00:39:56.820 or whatever.
00:39:58.740 Your problem seems to mostly be, and correct me if I'm wrong, be with it not being, you
00:40:06.780 feel like black people are becoming a protected class in this country in terms of being able
00:40:12.680 to criticize them.
00:40:14.320 Yeah.
00:40:14.900 That's what you're saying.
00:40:16.000 Yeah.
00:40:16.300 You're saying that, you know, because America is-
00:40:18.380 Yes.
00:40:18.680 And everybody's afraid to say anything negative towards black people.
00:40:21.800 Yeah.
00:40:21.940 It's the biggest no-no.
00:40:23.160 The biggest, like, not in terms of real life, but, like, social media and, like, language
00:40:27.540 and how communication has become.
00:40:28.760 Yeah.
00:40:29.200 You cannot say anything negative.
00:40:31.040 Like, Fresh and Fit, for example.
00:40:32.140 If you say they make fun of every single type of race, and I make fun of all races all the
00:40:35.760 time.
00:40:36.080 Yeah.
00:40:36.300 Like, if you make fun of a black woman, Twitter is on your fucking ass.
00:40:40.220 If you say Spanish girls, like, cook rice all day, if you say Asians, like, Ching Chong
00:40:44.160 or, like, white girls or Becky and, like, call the manager, everyone laughs.
00:40:47.680 Yeah, because-
00:40:48.300 You cannot make fun of, like, what happens on social media is a full horde, and everyone's
00:40:52.560 afraid to say what they feel because they don't want to get labeled as racist.
00:40:56.340 Yeah.
00:40:56.780 No, it's because-
00:40:58.300 Is that real?
00:40:59.700 Yes.
00:41:00.100 And it's because woke points is the new social currency.
00:41:06.300 Woke points is the new social-
00:41:08.300 Being right.
00:41:09.220 Yeah.
00:41:09.840 Right points.
00:41:10.380 You feel me?
00:41:10.960 So, it's not just-
00:41:12.160 Left, right, right.
00:41:12.520 Why it feels like that is because it's not just you offend a black woman or say something
00:41:18.220 mean about black women and black women get offended.
00:41:20.720 The white women going to come for you, too, because that's how they going to collect their
00:41:23.460 woke points, siding with the sisters, you feel me?
00:41:26.180 The businesses are going to fire you because that's how they get their woke points.
00:41:29.880 Oh, we don't stand with someone.
00:41:32.720 Woke points is the new social currency, so it feels so overwhelming.
00:41:36.860 If you get caught up in that, that's why everyone's afraid to do it because that fake-
00:41:43.360 You see, like, they're not-
00:41:44.340 These same people, these white women, these companies, they're not doing anything to actually
00:41:51.120 uplift the black community, but it looks good on Twitter.
00:41:55.700 Yeah.
00:41:55.880 And so-
00:41:56.880 It's like when Target puts all the fucking gay pride flags on every single t-shirt every-
00:42:00.620 Like, this month, in June.
00:42:02.180 Yeah.
00:42:02.280 You're going to see flags fucking everywhere on every single business and store.
00:42:06.440 Why?
00:42:06.780 Because they love LGBTQP people or they just want to get some woke points, man.
00:42:10.920 Yeah.
00:42:11.120 You're going to get people walking in and think, oh, this is safe place.
00:42:13.860 Yeah.
00:42:14.220 It's all bullshit.
00:42:15.680 So, what you're detecting is this-
00:42:18.280 The bullshit.
00:42:18.940 I'm sick of people bullshitting.
00:42:20.360 Yeah.
00:42:20.800 And I guess the only thing I can say to that, even though you're right, and even though
00:42:24.100 it's real, is that black people just got here in terms of being that protected class.
00:42:31.380 Up until very recently, it was always okay to over-criticize black people.
00:42:37.340 Do you want to keep that spot?
00:42:38.400 It's not even-
00:42:38.920 We didn't put ourselves down.
00:42:39.980 No, no, but do you want to keep it?
00:42:41.880 I don't benefit from it at all.
00:42:43.840 I don't feel like I-
00:42:44.920 I think in that conversation that shows an example of you kind of benefiting off that.
00:42:49.140 Everybody in the stream, and even your Rachel reacted to it, they all kind of misunderstood
00:42:53.600 my thing because people are so unused to hearing negative things about black people that immediately
00:42:59.180 it's like, he's racist.
00:43:00.260 He's like-
00:43:00.760 No, but you also didn't word it exactly how you meant it.
00:43:05.180 You muted me.
00:43:06.160 No, I'm talking about from your initial video.
00:43:08.800 That's true.
00:43:09.160 Which set the tone of the entire-
00:43:11.000 Well, I think I said it right, but I just said it in my tone, the fucking-
00:43:14.120 And then people think that that's racism, but it's not.
00:43:17.480 It's frustration with bullshit.
00:43:19.900 No, you said some things that were incorrect to you.
00:43:22.200 What did I say?
00:43:23.440 I don't know.
00:43:24.140 You started off by saying that all the attacks were being committed by black people.
00:43:27.960 No, and then you said I'm generalizing, and I don't know, and I don't-
00:43:30.280 Yeah, and then, right, what I'm saying is like, it came across-
00:43:38.000 Yeah, no, because I want to make sure I say this right.
00:43:40.420 It came across, you didn't, in your initial video, you didn't communicate what I just said.
00:43:46.260 That you are bothered by the fact that it feels like, you know, the media is downplaying the role that black people are having in these crimes.
00:43:56.220 I don't even think it's the media.
00:43:57.560 I think it's just the general attitude that people have.
00:43:59.760 Sure.
00:44:00.300 Which is mostly, which is very influenced by the media.
00:44:03.040 Yeah, yeah, true.
00:44:03.500 You know, so like, that's why in my first time hearing it, it just sounded like you were saying, oh yeah, the black people just have it out for Asians.
00:44:13.080 And the ones who aren't committing the crimes don't care about the ones that are committing the crimes.
00:44:18.540 It's just like, that's how it kind of came across.
00:44:20.940 Instead of like, which I, bro, because I don't-
00:44:24.080 But do you see why it came across?
00:44:25.500 Do you see, but do you understand why it came across that way?
00:44:28.360 Even though like my general, I always know where I'm coming from.
00:44:31.180 That's why I'm not afraid to get called racist for a week.
00:44:33.320 Like, it is what it is.
00:44:34.300 But do you see, the reason that there was that genuine misunderstanding for so many people is people are not used to hearing anything negative about black people.
00:44:41.500 I wouldn't say not used to it, bro.
00:44:43.400 This is, that's been all reality.
00:44:44.240 On social media today?
00:44:45.600 Do you, like, who says anything like that?
00:44:47.720 No, no.
00:44:48.520 Like, for the last five years or so, it has become maybe even longer, maybe even seven.
00:44:55.200 It's been coming increasingly taboo to criticize black women in particular.
00:45:01.860 Because a black man, though, he does benefit from the protection of being one of the, you know, the woke point, you know, people you can defend.
00:45:14.380 You can very easily get kicked out of that.
00:45:18.820 You feel me?
00:45:19.440 Like, you say the wrong thing, you have the wrong beliefs, they don't give a fuck.
00:45:23.720 You feel me?