SNEAKO - August 18, 2022


Libs Think Disagreeing is Harassment


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262

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In this episode of Thick & Thin I talk about a recent confrontation I had with a white male student at PSU who asked a question that triggered a lot of people. I also talk about how white privilege is a problem and how we have to shut it down.

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00:00:00.260 Confrontation at Portland State University, did I harm students by asking this question?
00:00:05.000 Yeah, you probably did, because students can't handle questions.
00:00:08.080 What would it take for you to move, not all the way over there, just one line, just one line?
00:00:13.220 I guess if they told me how many genders specifically there were,
00:00:16.920 I can't think of anything that would change my opinion, I guess.
00:00:23.200 Man, you got haters from outside the window.
00:00:26.440 Liberals can't handle confrontation anymore. 1.00
00:00:29.320 Woke people who don't know how to disagree, it's impossible.
00:00:32.280 So when I do debates with people who disagree with me, and shout out to Destiny for that,
00:00:35.680 he's a liberal fake, he's going to be red pill in a week.
00:00:39.220 But every time we talk, people are so like, they think that there's beef.
00:00:42.780 People are so unable to hear different opinion that they think that we have beef if you disagree.
00:00:48.320 But I just like regularly, I just like debate, I like back and forth, I like conversation,
00:00:52.260 I like disagreement. People can't handle it.
00:00:56.360 Oh, you're giving me the finger? Hi.
00:00:58.600 I'm standing in front of the social work building.
00:01:05.060 What does that have to say? You're triggering them?
00:01:07.060 You're harming individuals by asking that question. 1.00
00:01:10.400 Fucking Wokeys are such children, chat. 1.00
00:01:12.640 I'm harming individuals by asking that question. 1.00
00:01:19.100 What, you want to come down and have a conversation about it?
00:01:25.360 Why do you want to come down and have a conversation? 1.00
00:01:27.020 Oh, okay, but you have time to yell from the roof, idiot. 1.00
00:01:31.160 Okay, so what would it take for you to move to the strongly agree? 1.00
00:01:37.980 In this man's class, after a long, controversial 10 weeks of lectures, this giant auditorium,
00:01:46.020 on the final day, he posed a question to the students.
00:01:49.700 He says, if anybody has disagreed with anything I've said over the last 10 weeks,
00:01:54.080 come down and sit in this chair in a spotlight in the middle of the auditorium.
00:01:59.860 Here's a platform. Tell me to my face.
00:02:02.200 I'm glad. I was the only one who walked down and you gave me an A.
00:02:09.420 Excuse me. Hi, I'm so curious about what...
00:02:11.320 Excuse me. Hi. Why are you here?
00:02:13.060 I'm going to try to get you expelled. 1.00
00:02:15.340 What's happening out here?
00:02:17.360 Oh, you want to...
00:02:18.440 It's a critical thinking game where we take a look at claims
00:02:21.740 and you step on a line you want to play?
00:02:24.320 Well...
00:02:24.880 You want to watch the game played?
00:02:26.340 Well, I'm not sure that this is safe for all the students.
00:02:28.640 We were watching from up there, actually, because we actually...
00:02:31.780 We happened to see the sign from up in the School of Social Work,
00:02:35.300 which is on the sixth floor, and some of our trans students saw the statement.
00:02:40.300 Well, the trans students, their meeting ground is the social work therapy room.
00:02:44.060 They're just sitting all day, like, eating snacks, doing therapy.
00:02:47.980 There are only two genders. 0.99
00:02:49.480 Well, thanks for coming down to talk.
00:02:52.360 It was pretty activating and upsetting not knowing the context.
00:02:55.700 We thought it was...
00:02:56.080 Pretty activating to hear a question.
00:02:58.640 Babies, bro.
00:03:00.180 Sort of a statement that was being made, but not a thought exercise, necessarily.
00:03:05.300 Would you like to see how the game is played?
00:03:07.960 No.
00:03:08.520 No.
00:03:09.300 I think we understand that.
00:03:09.780 Is it something that should be a game, though?
00:03:13.000 An exercise?
00:03:14.520 You want to use non... 1.00
00:03:16.300 These fucking idiots are not even capable of talking. 1.00
00:03:19.880 They can't even... 1.00
00:03:20.520 This guy's being absolutely respectful, playing a little game, and it's just because they can
00:03:24.300 see it from the window.
00:03:25.400 They get triggered and have to shut it down.
00:03:27.700 Babies, bro. 1.00
00:03:28.860 Literal fucking babies. 1.00
00:03:30.300 You want to use defund the police as one? 1.00
00:03:32.200 Well, just thinking about what it looks like.
00:03:34.120 Yeah.
00:03:34.380 What does it look like to see, like, one, two, three, four, five, five white men with 0.80
00:03:39.500 a sign that says there's only...
00:03:41.040 You're a white man saying, oh, you say you're white, man. 1.00
00:03:43.200 I hate when white people just start being gay and change their gender to stop feeling 1.00
00:03:47.260 like they're a white guy who's part of the problem. 1.00
00:03:49.420 You're a white dude, too.
00:03:50.820 No minority claims you. 1.00
00:03:52.400 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:03:53.400 Do you know how it feels to see five white men playing a game outside? 1.00
00:03:57.040 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:03:58.580 Went to your dentist. 1.00
00:03:59.620 You could have been like the Westboro Baptist Church, bro.
00:04:02.340 What is white?
00:04:03.140 What?
00:04:03.900 Why did you identify us in the base of our race?
00:04:06.400 Well, are you the best people to be hosting that dialogue? 0.57
00:04:09.380 If you're white people, you can't even host dialogue. 0.99
00:04:11.900 And I'm going to say it again, man.
00:04:13.040 It's a privilege that I'm so mixed because I can talk openly and have full freedom of 0.99
00:04:17.560 speech without getting shut down by these fucking fruity snowflakes. 0.98
00:04:20.840 Well, you're the Westboro Baptist Church because there's five of you. 1.00
00:04:24.020 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:04:26.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:04:27.060 No POC people of color, color people claim you. 1.00
00:04:29.960 Go away. 1.00
00:04:31.240 Go away. 1.00
00:04:32.820 You're goofy. 1.00
00:04:34.120 You're not a fucking minority because you're fruity. 1.00
00:04:37.280 No, but you... 0.99
00:04:38.360 ...representative of that.
00:04:39.940 Minorities, do you jack him as one he owned? 0.91
00:04:41.880 Okay, but I asked you a question. 0.68
00:04:42.760 And not jack him like that.
00:04:43.780 I should have used a better word. 0.99
00:04:44.660 But do you claim him fucked in a video game? 0.95
00:04:47.080 Why did you identify me and these people on the base of their race? 0.95
00:04:50.620 That's what it looks like, right?
00:04:51.780 Kind of like the activating, triggering aspect of it all.
00:04:55.800 Activating, triggering aspect.
00:04:57.280 Do you see what it looks like? 0.50
00:04:58.100 I get triggered by white men.
00:05:00.140 Okay, minorities, bro. 0.99
00:05:01.060 Can we just fucking debunk this guy right here? 0.98
00:05:04.260 Please. 1.00
00:05:04.740 Can you just tell him how stupid you look? 1.00
00:05:06.320 Because he's going to see this video and he thinks he's being an ally right now. 1.00
00:05:09.320 Can you tell him he looks stupid? 1.00
00:05:11.600 So you think that it's morally acceptable to... 1.00
00:05:14.500 There we go.
00:05:15.560 There we go.
00:05:17.440 Get out of here.
00:05:18.520 No, no, no.
00:05:19.780 We don't claim you.
00:05:21.080 We don't claim you. 1.00
00:05:22.480 Go the fuck away. 1.00
00:05:24.220 He's able to do this, bro. 1.00
00:05:25.580 We like freedom of speech. 1.00
00:05:26.980 Your fucking fruity ass can't do shit. 1.00
00:05:28.920 Identify people on the basis of their race. 1.00
00:05:30.820 Um, it's not a moral question.
00:05:34.120 It's a matter of, like, the fact that...
00:05:36.500 It's just about power and privilege.
00:05:37.860 Yeah.
00:05:38.040 Yeah.
00:05:38.420 And representation, right?
00:05:40.360 So if you have queer folks out here asking those kinds of questions...
00:05:44.060 Well, how do you know we're not queer? 0.98
00:05:45.860 Um, that's true.
00:05:46.640 I don't know.
00:05:47.320 But there's... 1.00
00:05:48.020 Shut up! 1.00
00:05:50.240 God damn! 1.00
00:05:51.060 They're talking about... 0.99
00:05:51.380 It's not, um, sort of a representative, holistic, inclusive feeling, especially from up on high.
00:05:56.480 What are they talking about?
00:05:58.960 These people are supposed to be inclusive, and they're shutting you out because it's five white guys.
00:06:04.340 It's so funny how the inclusivity people are the most exclusive.
00:06:08.600 We're looking down and we see this statement being made.
00:06:10.980 We're curious about it.
00:06:12.240 We're also just worried about the harm being done to passersby.
00:06:15.720 What harm?
00:06:17.040 There's the harm.
00:06:17.760 So there are people who went home because they're so triggering enough.
00:06:21.380 Yeah, we had something to do.
00:06:22.320 So I think...
00:06:22.900 Activating?
00:06:25.480 Activating? 1.00
00:06:25.940 You think that the shit was filmed in 2016? 1.00
00:06:28.060 This is filmed May 11, 2022. 0.99
00:06:30.180 They're still using...
00:06:31.440 They found another definition for triggering.
00:06:33.880 Activating what?
00:06:35.780 Activating what?
00:06:36.960 The end result is there...
00:06:38.460 You know you're on film, right?
00:06:39.860 That is totally fine.
00:06:41.040 There are real people who are really hurt by the statements.
00:06:43.700 What were they hurt about?
00:06:45.460 It wasn't even a statement.
00:06:46.760 It was a question.
00:06:47.880 Because that's not how they identify, and so it seems like a really triggering statement to just say,
00:06:51.040 there are two genders, but that's not... 1.00
00:06:52.860 He didn't even say that, you stupid fucking... 1.00
00:06:54.920 Oh my God, bro. 1.00
00:06:56.780 He just asked the question, where do you stand?
00:06:59.920 So it's very harmful and very hurtful.
00:07:01.160 Look at his face. 0.99
00:07:01.800 He's like, he can't even believe how fucking delusional these people are. 0.99
00:07:05.060 I'm with you, man. 0.93
00:07:05.800 There's human lives that were affected, so I think that's the message we're trying to send, is to maybe...
00:07:09.820 Shout out to Peter Balganzi, and I like this video.
00:07:11.660 That are the questions that you're asking or posing before you begin your thought experiment.
00:07:14.600 Are you curious about, like, what we're bringing to you at all, or do you have...
00:07:21.700 I'm thinking about, uh, I'm extremely curious, and I'm extremely respectful. 1.00
00:07:25.900 I genuinely respect the fact that you came, as opposed to seven or eight of you giving me the middle finger and saying, fuck you to me. 1.00
00:07:35.040 So, yeah. 1.00
00:07:35.740 So, so...
00:07:37.200 What do you gain from this?
00:07:38.560 Like, what is your reason?
00:07:39.600 Do you just want to cause trouble, or, like...
00:07:41.780 He doesn't want to cause trouble.
00:07:43.040 He's doing a thought experiment.
00:07:44.480 This is what I'm saying.
00:07:45.060 They all turn into babies, bro.
00:07:46.840 We've prioritized feelings.
00:07:49.300 How you feel.
00:07:50.380 I've activated my feelings.
00:07:52.780 Me.
00:07:53.200 It's...
00:07:53.760 This feels like the church.
00:07:56.220 This feels...
00:07:58.140 Inclusivity. 1.00
00:07:59.660 Shut up. 1.00
00:08:00.520 Like, why are you here? 1.00
00:08:01.500 So, um...
00:08:03.500 I'm fascinated.
00:08:05.360 I do street epistemology.
00:08:07.200 And I'm fascinated if the people...
00:08:09.460 Epistemology is...
00:08:11.000 Chad, this is what I, like...
00:08:14.800 Fascinated if the people...
00:08:16.360 Look at these...
00:08:16.920 Mask people, bro.
00:08:19.500 Of course.
00:08:23.880 But!
00:08:25.040 Epistemology is, uh, from the Greek.
00:08:28.840 Basically, how you know what you think...
00:08:30.640 Okay.
00:08:31.480 So, street epistemology is taking it out of the university and bringing it into the street.
00:08:35.760 So, I'm very...
00:08:36.620 Is this a street, bro?
00:08:37.780 Okay.
00:08:38.300 A sidewalk or a...
00:08:39.720 Is this a street?
00:08:41.100 It's outside.
00:08:42.660 You're outside of the social work?
00:08:45.120 You're in the vicinity of trans people in the middle of therapy? 1.00
00:08:48.880 So, we don't know how to handle people who might not agree exactly with everything?
00:08:54.320 How can you ask questions right outside of the social work trans people room? 1.00
00:08:58.020 Fuck off! 1.00
00:08:59.020 Fuck off! 1.00
00:09:00.360 You're in the middle of campy... 1.00
00:09:01.900 This isn't street epistemology.
00:09:03.780 You're doing this on...
00:09:04.940 Okay.
00:09:05.620 If you don't like the word, uh, street, you can call it, uh, plaza epistemology or whatever.
00:09:11.140 But the idea is you take it out of the university and you see if the reasons that people have for things justify their confidence.
00:09:17.580 It's so funny that it's a school where you're supposed to learn how to be open-minded and you're supposed to hear other points of view.
00:09:23.740 You're supposed to expand your mind.
00:09:25.560 And you can see even the teachers and professors are shooing people away from thought experiments.
00:09:31.500 What's going on with school?
00:09:32.860 Are you really learning or are you just being indoctrinated?
00:09:35.800 Confidence in it.
00:09:36.580 So, this is a confidence scale.
00:09:38.520 We can do this with any claim you want.
00:09:40.200 We can do this with the mayor of the city.
00:09:42.020 We can do this with, uh, should the United States be funding, uh, uh, Ukraine?
00:09:48.900 Uh, I think it's $800 billion.
00:09:51.420 Should the United States, should, is it more important to control inflation or employment?
00:09:56.100 And we put people on a spectrum.
00:09:58.260 They start on, let me just explain.
00:09:59.660 So you asked, so I'll tell you.
00:10:00.920 So what, what am I to do?
00:10:02.900 I think what we're saying is, you know, and I think those questions are thought-provoking and important questions, um, to ask.
00:10:08.920 So play the game.
00:10:10.580 Folks in our community, I think what we were struck by was this.
00:10:14.540 It was a fact, you know, what's funny is that they pretend to be inclusive and pretend to be not racist,
00:10:19.220 but they were triggered because they saw a couple white guys outside.
00:10:22.880 They saw straight white men.
00:10:24.240 They assumed their gender. 0.90
00:10:26.300 They assumed their sexuality and got triggered because straight white guys were outside.
00:10:30.220 Statement on the board that it wasn't a question and that there was no context clues for folks,
00:10:36.620 especially trans folks, to know that this was not your belief, but this is more of a thought experience.
00:10:41.820 Okay, would you be more comfortable if it was a question?
00:10:45.200 Like, if I put a question mark.
00:10:47.280 Okay, I'm more than happy to put a question at the end.
00:10:50.100 A question is a question and not a statement.
00:10:51.720 More than happy to.
00:10:52.760 Some type of warning or a statement.
00:10:55.800 Mo, doesn't this remind you of school, like, all the teeth clutching their thermoses all day?
00:10:59.700 Yo, thanks, Bryson.
00:11:00.360 Thanks, Violet, for the donor.
00:11:01.060 Like, what you're doing on another board so people can walk by and, like, try and understand that.
00:11:05.540 That's what I hate about Portland, too, is Portland's the wokest.
00:11:08.360 It's literally the worst state in America. 1.00
00:11:10.780 It's the wokest state filled with the most liberal fucking bullshit. 1.00
00:11:14.540 It's the state that abolished the police. 1.00
00:11:16.440 I remember I did a video there when they wanted to defund the police, abolish the police.
00:11:20.500 And it's, like, one of the whitest states in the country. 0.95
00:11:22.820 And they just went really liberal because they had, like, a heavy KKK presence.
00:11:26.220 So they felt really guilty.
00:11:27.380 It's filled with white guilt.
00:11:28.680 Bro, this is a whole group of, like, 20 whiteys all arguing about how, like, inclusive and how they get triggered by a white guy. 0.94
00:11:36.280 But it's other white people doing it. 0.51
00:11:38.360 And so they don't want to feel guilty. 0.99
00:11:39.560 So they just become gay. 1.00
00:11:41.100 Portland sucks. 1.00
00:11:42.740 Because from afar, it looks. 1.00
00:11:44.380 Oregon the state.
00:11:45.060 Not Portland is a city.
00:11:47.160 But Oregon's a state.
00:11:47.840 My fault.
00:11:48.680 This is a thought experiment.
00:11:50.740 I said that by accident.
00:11:51.600 I know, I know, I know, Chad.
00:11:52.680 I know that. 0.98
00:11:53.380 If you read the description, I fucking was reading Portland State University. 0.98
00:11:56.540 I misspoke. 0.98
00:11:57.520 I know that.
00:11:58.200 I know, I know, I know.
00:11:59.360 I get it.
00:11:59.940 This is what we're asking people.
00:12:01.840 I'm more than happy to do that.
00:12:03.360 And then that way, it can kind of.
00:12:05.300 If we, I'm more than happy to do that.
00:12:07.200 I only have one board.
00:12:08.220 But I'm more than happy to put on, this is a thought experiment, and put a question mark.
00:12:12.400 If I put a question mark, I could.
00:12:14.780 I don't know.
00:12:15.100 I'm worried if people wouldn't be able to see it.
00:12:16.640 But I'm more than happy to, if so, if I put a question mark at the end, and then I put another one, it's not really, it is a thought experiment, but it's more of an exercise slash game starts thought experiment.
00:12:27.280 If I put that on the end, would all of the concern vaporize?
00:12:34.900 No, probably not, because we're talking about real humans with their lived experience and their positionality, their identities, you know, and sort of, we, I might have a very different personal feeling walking by because it doesn't target my identity specifically.
00:12:52.200 So we're just sort of here to sort of add.
00:12:54.800 Don't you hate that they all talk like that?
00:12:56.120 So it's my identity specifically, and it's how they are experiencing their identity.
00:13:02.140 So you don't have any empathy.
00:13:03.900 Hey, man, elevate, who might be harmed by a statement?
00:13:09.560 What do you mean by harmed?
00:13:11.680 Harmed?
00:13:12.520 Activated.
00:13:13.200 Yeah.
00:13:15.100 Well, people who have been like historically and currently oppressed, right, by dominant systems, patriarchy, whiteness. 0.99
00:13:22.980 Whiteness, shut up, whitey. 1.00
00:13:24.280 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:13:25.200 Masculinity, all of the systems that. 1.00
00:13:27.580 It's just so stupid. 1.00
00:13:29.340 Harm people who don't fit within those sort of war. 1.00
00:13:32.260 And she has glasses and a thermos and a teacher vest and she thinks she's smart, bro. 0.99
00:13:36.060 Doesn't every fucking professor look like this? 0.99
00:13:38.960 How many teachers have you had that look exactly like this? 1.00
00:13:41.420 Rigid.
00:13:42.080 That's why you want a question and not a statement.
00:13:44.500 Can I also ask?
00:13:45.940 Let me just, I just want an answer.
00:13:47.340 Is that, that's why you want a question, not a statement?
00:13:49.180 Because of the patriarchy and whiteness, you can't ask a question.
00:13:53.640 You need a, I think a question is an invitation. 0.99
00:13:57.480 What the fuck does whiteness have to do with this at all? 0.99
00:14:00.580 Right. 0.99
00:14:00.960 More than happy to put, make it a question.
00:14:02.920 Participate in this conversation.
00:14:04.820 More than happy to do that.
00:14:06.340 You're representing, you know, with your identity, a belief.
00:14:09.540 You're representing with your identity.
00:14:11.400 They didn't even ask him.
00:14:12.280 It's so funny that they always like talk about asking pronouns and stuff.
00:14:15.500 They saw him with this bomber jacket on a white guy and they just assumed his sexuality.
00:14:18.980 They assumed his pronouns.
00:14:19.920 They did everything.
00:14:20.800 They assumed his whiteness and just attributed all this patriarchy and racism just by looking
00:14:27.400 at him outside a window. 1.00
00:14:28.680 But what happened to asking about pronouns, stupid? 1.00
00:14:30.920 Perhaps when, especially when it's a statement. 0.99
00:14:33.280 And so what it looks like is you're out here saying there are two genders and then anyone
00:14:37.220 who doesn't fall within those two sort of binary boxes.
00:14:40.600 I'm more than happy to do that.
00:14:44.680 More than happy to say this is a thought experiment.
00:14:48.000 Let me just finish.
00:14:49.480 More than happy to do that.
00:14:51.000 But it seems that there's, if I did that, that would not be enough.
00:14:55.200 You might be, you might have to.
00:14:56.480 I just, I don't want, I just.
00:14:58.720 I might not be the person to, you know, again, I think asking folks who hold those identities 0.99
00:15:05.400 sort of if that is enough.
00:15:07.300 So asking queer students, asking trans students, asking gay students.
00:15:10.120 They are totally capable of coming down and playing this game too and having an open
00:15:14.360 dialogue.
00:15:15.140 But they don't tell you, they tell you just be triggered, be activated, be harmed.
00:15:18.540 You're asking about race or poverty or religion of people who are part of those groups can
00:15:24.240 really inform you better than I can.
00:15:25.780 You wanted to say, I wanted to hear her through.
00:15:27.700 No, I get it.
00:15:28.360 And I'm just wondering, like, are any of you all, like, trained professionals in trauma
00:15:32.400 and porn care?
00:15:32.980 Like, if a trans. 1.00
00:15:33.700 Shut the fuck up! 1.00
00:15:35.140 And gender individual. 1.00
00:15:36.500 Shut up! 1.00
00:15:37.440 You all, like, trained professionals in trauma and porn care? 1.00
00:15:40.460 Like, if.
00:15:40.860 Why do you have to be a trained professional in trauma to be on the street with tape? 0.99
00:15:46.580 What the fuck is going on, bro? 0.99
00:15:48.380 Gender individual were to come to the space and participate and then there was a triggering 1.00
00:15:52.940 response where they needed emotional support.
00:15:55.180 Like, are you ready?
00:15:56.000 Oh! 0.60
00:15:59.440 Oh! 1.00
00:15:59.960 They just baby fucking, they baby these people so goddamn much. 1.00
00:16:05.560 You need to have a triggering trauma professional. 1.00
00:16:09.200 Imagine you're just playing a game on the street for some random dude.
00:16:12.920 Hey, what's your opinion on this?
00:16:14.780 What's your opinion on that?
00:16:15.800 This is my opinion.
00:16:17.020 That's your opinion?
00:16:20.620 Where's the trauma professional?
00:16:22.960 I'm activated.
00:16:24.160 I'm harmed. 1.00
00:16:25.140 Fuck! 1.00
00:16:26.420 Babies. 1.00
00:16:27.200 Literal babies. 0.72
00:16:28.320 We should not encourage that behavior. 1.00
00:16:30.460 If you can't play a game on the street with tape, bro, go to a fucking mental hospital 1.00
00:16:35.560 now because you are not going to be able to survive the real world. 1.00
00:16:40.800 College doesn't teach you how to be in reality. 0.99
00:16:43.660 College teaches you how to be a fucking baby flipping off people you disagree with from 1.00
00:16:48.820 the roof. 1.00
00:16:49.920 Teach you how to go to fucking social work all day. 0.99
00:16:52.460 Be with other trans people in a safe space. 1.00
00:16:54.900 You fucking babies. 1.00
00:16:56.260 Where's the trauma professional? 1.00
00:17:03.020 I need a therapy dog. 1.00
00:17:06.460 Fuck! 1.00
00:17:08.220 Fucking babies, bro. 1.00
00:17:09.880 To support that because this conversation can bring up a lot of emotions and the people 1.00
00:17:17.000 that are kind of working within it could be really triggered.
00:17:20.440 But if you're not, if no one's there as like an advocate or support, it could be pretty detrimental
00:17:24.720 to the community you're asking.
00:17:26.200 So I just want to like frame that.
00:17:28.180 If you're not having like an advocate there as someone that can like be an emotional support
00:17:33.260 or regulation for the people that are potentially harmed or triggered in this conversation,
00:17:37.580 whether they're participating or not, like that's a potential thing. 0.99
00:17:40.940 Bro, you need a therapist on duty like a fucking lifeguard at a pool to deal with 1.00
00:17:45.680 these babies who can't hear dialogue. 1.00
00:17:47.660 Oh my God.
00:17:55.180 Freedom of speech is dead, bro.
00:17:57.040 Thank you, Nikolai.
00:17:57.680 Why are people like this? 0.91
00:17:58.540 Sneeko's so damn delusional, bro. 0.74
00:18:00.040 Because we just baby people. 0.95
00:18:02.080 This is what being woke has become. 1.00
00:18:03.860 Look how mad this bitch is right here. 1.00
00:18:06.300 These white men. 1.00
00:18:08.080 Bro, I love not being a white guy. 1.00
00:18:11.180 This shit would suck. 1.00
00:18:12.620 Being a straight white man nowadays sucks because of these fucking idiots running around. 1.00
00:18:16.840 Thank you, Crying Frog. 1.00
00:18:18.860 Thanks for the dodos, man.
00:18:22.340 Because you need to have someone to be able to support that emotionally, mentally, and
00:18:26.460 for people's trauma.
00:18:27.820 So if you're not, it's kind of like these people might leave and feel like without any
00:18:32.620 support or any...
00:18:33.920 Why is it his problem that they're leaving without feeling support? 0.99
00:18:38.500 Why the fuck is that his responsibility? 0.98
00:18:40.640 Understanding of what they just went through. 0.99
00:18:42.400 So just to think that.
00:18:43.360 And we know people who are in the gender minority, it's their entire... 1.00
00:18:46.400 And you see how all these idiots, all these woke, liberal idiots just encourage their 1.00
00:18:50.120 fucking delusion? 1.00
00:18:51.460 Portland, Oregon is the worst city in America. 1.00
00:18:54.640 The worst. 0.94
00:18:56.520 Someone donated to send you wore a MAGA hat to Portland.
00:18:58.560 How are you still alive?
00:19:00.280 Thanks for the 10-
00:19:00.800 Right now, he's thinking exactly what I'm saying. 1.00
00:19:13.320 These people are fucking delusional idiots. 1.00
00:19:15.240 But he's just nodding his head. 1.00
00:19:16.280 He's like, wow. 1.00
00:19:17.340 Holy shit. 1.00
00:19:18.460 They're lost. 1.00
00:19:19.580 They're gone.
00:19:21.600 Hmm. 1.00
00:19:21.920 These delusional fucking idiots. 1.00
00:19:26.760 Just really in their own identities and who they are and be learning and be talking 1.00
00:19:30.400 about these really, really important things within our culture and society.
00:19:33.880 And by walking through this community, remember, that we care about, that should be in class
00:19:37.200 today, learning about how to take care of their community and how to support marginalized
00:19:41.260 individuals.
00:19:41.760 Oh, my God.
00:19:42.640 They just said, what are you talking about?
00:19:44.320 They just say all the right buzzwords, marginalized feelings, trauma, and just explain it with
00:19:49.260 the gay pride flag shirt on. 0.99
00:19:50.640 But you're not saying fucking anything. 1.00
00:19:52.480 You all sound the same. 1.00
00:19:54.020 Chat, when I say bots, these people all here are fucking bots. 1.00
00:20:00.780 Nothing. 1.00
00:20:01.920 No unique personality reciting all the same fucking shit. 1.00
00:20:06.940 Like themselves and others, can't participate in it because they saw that message. 1.00
00:20:11.180 Yeah.
00:20:11.380 And that's why, that's what we mean by harm.
00:20:14.240 And honestly, I don't even think adding a question mark is enough.
00:20:17.020 I think it should be more of what is your perspective on gender identity?
00:20:21.500 Because then you're open. 0.99
00:20:22.480 Why are you deciding what questions you could fucking ask? 0.98
00:20:28.500 What happened to freedom of speech, chat? 0.99
00:20:31.720 Where it's harmful to ask a certain question.
00:20:35.320 Coming up the question, or gender in general, right?
00:20:37.640 Because we know that it's not just about identity.
00:20:39.760 It's about who that person is. 0.98
00:20:42.240 Identity and who that person is, is the same fucking thing, right? 0.94
00:20:45.360 And by, by really framing it in the binary, that's where there's harm. 0.97
00:20:50.500 And I put it in like my-
00:20:51.400 Framing it in the binary is where that's harm.
00:20:54.220 Chat, this has been the way you describe gender for history forever until five years ago.
00:21:01.220 And now if you even question it, it's harmful.
00:21:03.920 Just framing it, just, just, even saying, like, are there two genders?
00:21:11.400 I'm activated! I'm activated!
00:21:14.540 Trans, activate! 0.98
00:21:16.020 And then their Adam's apple pops back out, and their balls drop again. 1.00
00:21:19.680 And their titties. 1.00
00:21:21.460 Plastic trans activation. 0.99
00:21:24.140 There's two genders. 1.00
00:21:25.960 Okay, sorry.
00:21:27.120 I'm going too far.
00:21:27.800 Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
00:21:28.740 In a video game.
00:21:29.600 Can I give my two cents as a non-binary person?
00:21:32.060 Please be honest.
00:21:32.600 Cool.
00:21:33.520 Can I give my two cents as a non-binary person? 1.00
00:21:36.200 And all the fucking stupid teachers listen at her. 1.00
00:21:38.840 Bro, I went to school with this bullshit. 1.00
00:21:40.320 If you say this shit, you can get so much authority. 1.00
00:21:42.760 You'll get away with so much nonsense because they think that you're a minority. 1.00
00:21:46.680 I'm gender non-conforming.
00:21:48.240 I'm gender non-conforming. 1.00
00:21:49.240 And look at all these stupid ass teachers who are going to give her a straight A because he shut that shit. 1.00
00:21:52.820 I use they, them, pronouns. 1.00
00:21:54.040 Do you know what that means?
00:21:55.620 I believe so, yes.
00:21:56.920 Are you aware of, like, the theory of social constructionism?
00:22:01.640 Yes.
00:22:02.440 So.
00:22:03.140 I'm a gender studies scholar.
00:22:04.700 Yeah.
00:22:04.960 So I'm much younger than you.
00:22:06.340 These are all, you know, this is all very new.
00:22:08.920 I understand.
00:22:09.660 Like, my parents are boomers.
00:22:11.620 They're in their 60s.
00:22:12.540 They've had a really hard time understanding.
00:22:14.500 So I haven't had to explain this. 1.00
00:22:15.700 Because you're full of shit. 1.00
00:22:17.760 To a lot of people in your generation. 1.00
00:22:20.200 So you're aware of social constructionism.
00:22:22.840 You're aware of gender as a social construct.
00:22:26.820 When you say there are only two genders, those two genders are just social constructs that we've made up. 0.98
00:22:33.760 From birth, you were assigned a male at birth because you have a penis, I'm assuming. 0.96
00:22:38.500 You present as male. 0.99
00:22:39.400 Do you identify as male?
00:22:41.480 Are you asking if I identify as male?
00:22:43.560 I identify as male.
00:22:45.880 Because you were assigned a male at birth.
00:22:48.320 Are you sis?
00:22:50.440 Oh my god.
00:22:50.980 I'm sorry, I'm not sure where you're going with this.
00:22:52.680 I'm trying.
00:22:53.100 What's the point about, like, what is she just saying?
00:22:55.680 Just.
00:22:56.660 Oh my god, bro.
00:23:00.440 Trying to understand where you're going.
00:23:02.020 The idea of.
00:23:03.160 Imagine going to school.
00:23:04.440 Imagine paying for your daughter to go to school.
00:23:06.580 And then she comes back.
00:23:08.340 Avey them. 0.97
00:23:09.220 And this is all she learned.
00:23:10.580 That gender is a social constitution. 1.00
00:23:12.560 And so you constructed because you were assigned your penis at birth. 1.00
00:23:16.540 Because the doctor stapled on your dick when you were born. 1.00
00:23:19.500 And decided that you were a male. 1.00
00:23:21.200 Like, you pay $100,000 and you're in debt.
00:23:23.600 And she's just like.
00:23:24.640 And this is it.
00:23:25.280 She's a gender studies major.
00:23:26.500 This is everything that she could talk about.
00:23:27.920 There being only two genders is a social construct. 0.99
00:23:30.880 Because we have this idea of being assigned.
00:23:33.560 Is it a social construct? 1.00
00:23:34.680 Or were you assigned it because you got a dick or a pussy, you fucking idiot? 1.00
00:23:37.960 Assigned female at birth. 1.00
00:23:39.100 Assigned male at birth.
00:23:40.260 Now, I'm non-bite.
00:23:41.340 You weren't assigned it.
00:23:42.300 You were just born a man or a woman. 1.00
00:23:44.600 You fucking dummy, bro. 1.00
00:23:45.680 That's something that I have learned about myself over the last six, seven years. 1.00
00:23:50.640 After I was a teenager, I learned about sociology.
00:23:54.320 I learned about gender.
00:23:55.240 Look at all the teachers, like, putting up with.
00:23:57.600 This is what school is now.
00:23:59.260 And all these liberal states.
00:24:00.920 Look at all these teachers, like, so proud of her bravery.
00:24:03.380 And encouraging it with their masks on in May 2022.
00:24:06.260 And I realized that I don't fit into the box of just a cis woman.
00:24:11.460 Okay, my gender is completely whatever I...
00:24:15.120 What's your point of saying this?
00:24:16.640 People just, like, it's always a mid-white person.
00:24:18.400 The whole point, this has nothing to do with the conversation.
00:24:20.780 She just wanted, she's just doing a monologue right now.
00:24:23.200 This is her time to shine.
00:24:24.640 And I don't conform.
00:24:25.800 And, yeah, and I found my identity.
00:24:28.900 And now I'm a gender neutral. 0.99
00:24:30.580 But, like, two weeks later, when this shit, like, gets boring, she'll pick another thing to identify. 0.99
00:24:36.160 She's just going to be a bird or per-purse. 1.00
00:24:39.200 Pick some new pronouns.
00:24:40.560 The whole reason she's doing this, like, right now, she looks like a girl on a stage doing a play.
00:24:44.320 And I didn't want to conform.
00:24:46.720 And I found myself.
00:24:48.400 And this is who I am. 1.00
00:24:49.580 And then the reason that it's so much fun is that these stupid-ass teachers, these therapists, social workers, thermos holders, stand off to the side and be like, you're so brave. 1.00
00:24:57.480 You're so brave. 1.00
00:24:58.180 And she's going to keep doing it.
00:24:58.640 I feel like in the moment, I'm not just one solid thing.
00:25:02.700 Sexuality, gender, these are all social constructs that we've created within our society.
00:25:08.600 Do you hear the delusion?
00:25:09.820 Our binary society, where you've decided there's only male or female, so many people don't fit into that.
00:25:16.740 And, like, why do you feel like you're a man?
00:25:18.560 Because you've been socialized to believe these things are associated with being a man.
00:25:22.560 These things are associated with being a woman. 1.00
00:25:24.120 There's only two boxes.
00:25:25.820 But you don't have to conform to that.
00:25:27.840 That's just-
00:25:28.120 There are people-
00:25:28.660 That's her whole identity.
00:25:29.860 That's her whole personality is just making no sense and going against the basic forms of being a man or a woman. 1.00
00:25:36.180 That's her thing. 1.00
00:25:37.120 That's what she got.
00:25:38.180 Nothing else.
00:25:38.800 What society has told you from birth, someone-
00:25:41.300 Chatting, like, I always react to these people, and there's a diagnosis.
00:25:44.280 Did they, them non-binary trans people, 98% of the time, it's just a mid-white person. 1.00
00:25:49.080 It's just a boring white person with nothing else going on, who doesn't want to feel the guilt of being part of the problem, a white patriarchy. 1.00
00:25:56.680 So they pick this shit up. 1.00
00:25:58.120 And now they're a minority. 1.00
00:25:58.900 And they get cheered on by other white people who believe in this shit. 1.00
00:26:02.220 A doctor said, this person has a penis. 1.00
00:26:05.080 I'm going to assume that they have to be a man and binge this box their whole life. 1.00
00:26:09.100 But why?
00:26:10.620 That's just-
00:26:11.060 I would love-
00:26:11.880 Big Mac Gamer asked if-
00:26:12.760 Do I think school is sexist to boys?
00:26:14.120 Yes, I do.
00:26:14.720 I'd like to hear other voices if you wanted to say something.
00:26:19.180 Do you feel that-
00:26:19.800 It wasn't even a debate.
00:26:21.160 There was no debate. 1.00
00:26:22.300 And if it's not useful, then go the fuck home. 0.99
00:26:24.180 Why are you standing here mad? 1.00
00:26:25.540 But this is a debate.
00:26:26.380 That's your response?
00:26:28.420 When you say, I want to hear from everyone else.
00:26:30.180 No, I do want to-
00:26:31.120 I didn't actually care.
00:26:32.120 No, I listened to-
00:26:33.260 Oh, God.
00:26:33.840 This is just the worst place ever.
00:26:35.580 Is there anybody from Portland, Oregon in the chat?
00:26:37.800 This is just-
00:26:38.360 I just hate- 0.99
00:26:38.940 These people are the worst. 0.83
00:26:40.560 And I'm processing.
00:26:41.700 Would you like me to engage her?
00:26:43.080 I want to hear from him.
00:26:44.940 You want to hear from him?
00:26:46.120 No, I want to hear from him.
00:26:47.820 Okay.
00:26:48.820 Do you have anything to say?
00:26:49.940 I just want to make sure.
00:26:54.940 So this is what I want.
00:26:56.240 I don't want- 0.99
00:26:56.920 Bro, that fucking fruity guy right here wants this to be a problem so bad. 0.98
00:26:59.880 And this guy's been nothing but respectful for 13 minutes straight. 0.99
00:27:02.640 The reason that I-
00:27:03.640 Look at the disrespect he's got to put up with because he's a straight white man.
00:27:06.540 I'm more than happy to engage you.
00:27:08.400 The reason that I said that is you have how many people here?
00:27:11.000 Fifteen, I'm guessing.
00:27:12.180 No, but-
00:27:12.580 No, let me-
00:27:12.900 The reason I said that is because I don't want you to walk away and someone to say,
00:27:17.000 You didn't give me a chance to talk.
00:27:18.220 So I didn't give her a chance to talk before.
00:27:21.040 But that's only because I was listening to what you were going to say.
00:27:24.200 And I realized that the class is here on a lot of time.
00:27:26.920 And the reason that I switched from what she had,
00:27:29.340 and I'm more than happy to listen to her,
00:27:31.000 is because I don't want people-
00:27:32.220 Do you-
00:27:33.480 They just told you their pronouns and their lived experience.
00:27:36.060 Okay, then I-
00:27:37.060 Okay, so-
00:27:43.060 They just told you their-
00:27:45.400 They just told you,
00:27:46.980 they're just waiting,
00:27:47.940 they're just standing there waiting for you to slip up.
00:27:50.700 But all of them came down,
00:27:52.340 and assumed his gender,
00:27:53.920 and assumed his sexuality immediately. 0.99
00:27:56.340 And just because you can't fucking fuck up the English language, 0.99
00:27:59.400 and start saying, 0.99
00:28:00.360 I want to hear what they have to say.
00:28:02.660 Yeah, you right-
00:28:03.700 I mean, they right there.
00:28:04.780 can you tell them what they bro just because you slip up once and this guy's like probably in his
00:28:10.700 50s he's been saying he's been speaking the english language correctly for 50 years and now 1.00
00:28:15.060 he has to fuck it up for your dumb ass he fucks up once actually they told you their pronouns 1.00
00:28:20.300 these people suck suck they don't want open dialogue they want to be right they want to feel 1.00
00:28:27.500 on a moral high ground they want to look down at you and say you're a white oppressive patriarchy 1.00
00:28:33.220 piece of shit masculinity misogyny they just want to use those words and feel better they want to get 1.00
00:28:39.480 rid of their white guilt and be oppressed because it's fun and they suck pronouns in their lived 1.00
00:28:46.300 experience okay then i okay so instead of getting the experience of someone that doesn't conform 0.96
00:28:52.420 okay so this individual just told me that and i'm trying to be reasonable and i think it's better to 0.99
00:28:59.620 have a conversation than for you guys to give me the finger and yell fuck you so you wanted to say 0.98
00:29:04.380 something go ahead it's already been you are you the guy that made up a bunch of academic data 1.00
00:29:08.720 to address this we're just fucking dumb portland idiot right here like he was planning saying this 0.99
00:29:14.320 that for five minutes before he did like just address and then he's leaving nobody even acknowledged 1.00
00:29:19.380 that stupid shit but he was so ready to say this you know how long he was standing here prepared okay 0.98
00:29:23.820 i'm gonna do it i'm gonna say it's a bunch of academic data to address that she did like just 1.00
00:29:29.660 address the you just addressed no one cares did you see the submitted academic data i'm pretty sure
00:29:36.900 it was you and i have a mask on bye no one cares you just called this person okay and they just told
00:29:42.540 you their gender okay well i have that was this moment right there yo thank you also voice said
00:29:50.880 this is next level planning this time they get boomers to vote for abortion every one of the parents 0.60
00:29:53.700 are not voting because they wish they use it at this moment yep apologize and i say they that's the
00:29:59.040 harm being done that we were talking about do you accept my apology okay it's a generation it's a
00:30:04.940 generational you know education if you okay so that that's great i love that if i accept your
00:30:13.280 apology so isn't it better to have a conversation about this than to scream at someone from the
00:30:19.120 rooftop oh i don't know who i i i my students i i wasn't paying attention to that but but but you
00:30:25.860 triggered me outside with your tape but if my students flipped you off and over the roof i wasn't i don't
00:30:29.960 know certainly didn't scream at you from the rooftop did any of you guys scream yeah yeah yeah this 1.00
00:30:34.900 is that a teacher this guy did oh man so you guys were screaming and yelling fuck you to me and 1.00
00:30:43.080 giving me the finger you're just saying please go away you're not welcome no i said fuck you okay 1.00
00:30:47.500 i said fuck you fucking idiots okay so it's so can i just get a cover that you're okay my goal is to 1.00
00:31:00.280 disrupt this at a school at a school where people are supposed to learn and have open conversation 1.00
00:31:09.200 is that the guy looks old as fuck is he a teacher his goal was to disrupt open dialogue and just feed 0.99
00:31:16.100 you the same bullshit that everybody else at that school believes geez man so i'm not like 0.99
00:31:22.920 okay so i i understand that no none of them check each other for that at a school this guy loudly 1.00
00:31:32.760 said yeah i was yelling fuck you i wanted to ruin your shit and none of them even care they just keep 1.00
00:31:37.960 looking forward and this guy's the bad guy why because he's not gay he's the bad guy you believe 1.00
00:31:44.260 um i can't remember where that over there she moved but i understand that you you believe this
00:31:50.120 stuff and we live in a democracy and other people don't have those beliefs and i want to ask people
00:31:56.220 if the reasons they have for their beliefs are justified and this is that experiment your thought
00:32:02.320 experiment we don't we actually have to go we don't we're not part of the thought experiment we're
00:32:07.240 all social workers and we saw this harm being done and we just wanted to come here with curiosity
00:32:11.460 and also some some information and do you feel that you've spoken do you feel that anybody if
00:32:18.020 anybody else has something to say that that you haven't had an opportunity to speak do you feel
00:32:23.020 like you've learned anything or take but but that doesn't answer my question i just ask if anybody else
00:32:28.600 has would like to speak if you'd like to speak i'm standing here okay but i think to joel's point we
00:32:38.240 hope that this was informative and helpful and sorry if thank you it wasn't informative or helpful 0.62
00:32:43.400 you didn't say anything else that any fucking liberal bot doesn't say you said all the right 0.99
00:32:48.160 keywords you said all the right gender construct fucking bullshit you recited your speech you all 1.00
00:32:52.720 sound exactly the same and i hope you see this and put down your thermos say something unique you 0.99
00:32:57.460 hurt your feelings and um no it didn't hurt my feelings i'm glad because our student who you know who
00:33:03.140 was for we're worried about them and potentially many many others and so that's why we came down
00:33:08.440 to talk to you just because we have a personal connection well i'm glad isn't it better to have
00:33:12.880 a conversation with someone than to yes i mean isn't that with the whole no the other teachers like
00:33:18.100 yeah my whole goal is to disrupt this enterprise should be about it's not safe for everybody to
00:33:22.700 have that conversation it's not safe to have conversations at a school this is what i'm saying
00:33:26.820 man school's a scam don't send your your kids to school here certainly don't tell them to go to gender 1.00
00:33:31.060 studies trans is all bullshit don't let them change their genders they're delusional all right you 1.00
00:33:35.700 just have a it's not safe yeah especially when you're doing it like every fucking day yeah this 1.00
00:33:41.000 is something we're fighting for and advocating for this is our job and what we care about what
00:33:45.680 we're passionate about sometimes it's hard to keep all those emotions and when we see someone that
00:33:49.380 we care about being harmed and you being harmed do you think that the best way for people to
00:33:55.680 understand what is the best way for people to understand your point of view this right
00:34:00.960 now showing up thank you yeah oh what oh advocating for the people that may feel like they don't
00:34:08.640 have a voice okay so the people who watch this because this is being videoed do you think that
00:34:13.420 the people who watch this who don't agree with you as a result of having watched this will then agree 0.98
00:34:18.720 with you he's seeing the viral video already he's like oh you guys all look stupid and everyone is 1.00
00:34:23.940 gonna call you stupid in the comment sections he got a million views and everyone called him stupid 1.00
00:34:28.680 right imagine being an adult and needing emotional support system to have a conversation 1.00
00:34:32.740 yes everyone thinks you're fucking retarded i'm not asking them to agree with me but don't you want 0.99
00:34:39.260 to facilitate social change i'm asking you to have a different perspective to understand where work 0.99
00:34:45.500 she doesn't want to have a conversation she wants you to change your mind because we're trying
00:34:49.140 she just wants you to agree with her came down here to try and understand where you're coming
00:34:52.600 actually i don't even know what she wants i think she's just triggered did you i don't think that
00:34:56.460 anyone did you really though decide if this okay but yeah please be honest with me is that really
00:35:02.180 why you came down to understand oh yeah yes yeah okay and and what what did you what is your
00:35:08.820 understanding of why i'm doing this let's care about how you it's not what i'm sorry why i haven't
00:35:14.620 heard from you what is it it's not i just wanted to tell you we don't care about your thought
00:35:18.520 experiment yeah you do you're here right now standing on the thought experiment clearly you
00:35:22.980 care you could be doing anything else with your time but you're here care about the impact that
00:35:28.780 it's having on okay so you didn't come down to understand why i'm doing this then we came down
00:35:34.880 here to tell you like what you're doing is farming others right so so you didn't come down to understand
00:35:39.440 you came to say this is wrong you're harming you didn't come down to understand that's why i asked
00:35:44.260 you to please be honest i really truly do want to understand why this even exists because we
00:35:49.700 didn't want to know how your game works doesn't mean we weren't coming down here so what is it that
00:35:54.280 you understand for why i'm doing this if you said you came down to understand why am i doing this
00:35:58.360 gotcha bro 1v20 boom boom boom no no this no no but this is you've made a claim you've made you've made
00:36:07.860 a claim right this is what you'll watch the video and what do you know a million people watch it you 1.00
00:36:16.080 stupid ass teachers and now you look incapable of teaching students do you think the result of 1.00
00:36:22.240 people watching this video we're gonna be what is your intent what is the impact it's having that's 1.00
00:36:26.560 all right harm is being done what are you talking about
00:36:34.560 he knows he did it bro he's like i got a viral video
00:36:36.880 great video man shout out to peter boghossian
00:36:46.000 that's it
00:36:51.520 this is your job