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- September 21, 2022
Questioning Woke People Is Harassment
Episode Stats
Length
11 minutes
Words per Minute
179.09653
Word Count
2,018
Sentence Count
199
Misogynist Sentences
9
Hate Speech Sentences
16
Summary
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There are only two genders. Thought experiment game with PSU students.
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Peter Boghossian, this guy makes really good thought experiments on the street.
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We're going to need to cleanse ourselves.
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There are only two genders. Five, four, three,
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I told you, it's a very complicated rule set.
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There are only two genders.
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Five, four, three, two, one, go.
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Okay, agree, disagree. Okay.
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Okay, so camo guys on the agree side, right?
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You're dressed like you hunt.
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I'm coming to you first. There are only two genders.
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Tell us why you think that. What is your reason for that?
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Well, this, like the other things we've discussed,
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it really depends on we have to agree on a definition and a set of facts,
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we as in the two sides opposing on the argument.
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And the way I've understood it my whole life,
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at least before I got to college,
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is that gender was a synonym for sex, you know?
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Oh, but gender is on a spectrum.
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Gender is an ideology. It's a construct, right?
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And so that's my view.
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I have a biological view of it more than a social view.
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Oh, wait, camo dude is on the other side?
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Okay, and when you got to college,
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they taught you something different.
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Well, it's just, I mean, look, we had transgender.
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Oh, so basically college.
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Okay, no, no.
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So he's on disagree and college has brainwashed him.
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Like, that's what college does.
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You don't learn anything.
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You just get liberalized.
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Gender students in high school.
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But it was, it wasn't really the rule.
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It was the exception.
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It wasn't spoken about in terms of, like, a greater ideology.
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And then when I got to college, of course, you know, that changed.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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When I went to college, I got brainwashed.
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There are only two genders.
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You will agree, and I'm going to move this just a little bit,
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if that's okay, so we can see the disagree.
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And you would disagree.
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Tell us why you disagree.
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Um, from the definitions I've read with gender, I think it, I mean, it's not the same as sex.
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Just, uh, oh, camo dude thinks that?
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Wait, what the fuck?
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Social versus biology.
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Okay, so, um, where did, where did the definitions come from?
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Oh, well, I'm well uneducated.
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But, um, like the dictionary or a gender studies book or Google.
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Okay, that's cool.
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So, um, uh, but when you Google, when you Google stuff, you get all different kinds of answers, though, no?
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It depends.
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I mean, whenever it comes to definitions, you look up a word and you type in definition.
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Oh, and there's a one, that first one, like a Webster's comes up?
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Yeah, the type thing, yeah, yeah.
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And, you know, you'll get, like, one through whatever number.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Different definitions, usages.
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Yeah.
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Okay, all right, cool.
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So, um, so you think there are more than two genders or one gender or?
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Well, gender, gender has more than one definition.
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And, uh, for discussion's sake, I choose to go with, um, non, like, non-specific sexual way whenever it comes to gender.
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Okay, so.
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Am I dumb for being confused?
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Like, what the hell is he talking about?
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He thinks that there's more than one gender, right?
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Camo guy?
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You're supposed to be shooting ducks and watching Duck Dynasty.
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What the fuck?
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For you.
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You look like you have a Facebook profile picture if you win sunglasses and you vote for Donald Trump.
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Like, what the hell are you doing on this side of the spectrum, bro?
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Um, how do you interpret this question?
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There are only two genders.
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Uh, there are two sexes.
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I think there are more than two genders.
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Is, are sex and gender synonymous to you?
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Depends on the definition of gender.
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What?
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And what's yours?
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Uh, definition of gender?
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Yeah.
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He doesn't know.
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Take your time.
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I'm putting you on the spot.
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Bro, I feel like I'm slow right now, but I don't understand.
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Is he just trying to be devil's advocate?
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Like, what the fuck is this fucking Andrew Tate looking guy talking about?
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Oh, thank you.
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All right.
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So.
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You look like hick Andrew Tate.
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It's, to me, how you, it's, it's a personal thing where you.
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Andrew Tizzle.
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You, uh, you kind of, how you define yourself on a sexual level, like in a mentality of,
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like, the way that you view others on a sexual level as well, it's not quite so biological.
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Okay.
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Does it come down to, uh, how you define yourself?
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Um.
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Or is this the whole thing?
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Which, okay.
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That's the whole question.
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Yeah, that's the whole question.
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I think I want to, I want, I don't want to misgender anybody.
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You said he, right?
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Yeah.
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So, so whatever he, so he asked a good question.
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How do you define gender?
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Like, what is the definition of that to you?
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Um, I still view it as synonymous with the term sex, but I think more recently, I mean,
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you've literally seen the definitions change in the dictionary.
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I feel like both these guys know the truth that there's two genders, but they were just
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bored and standing outside of college campus and wanted to play in this game.
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They know what the fucking truth is.
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That other guy doesn't really have a stance.
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Like, it depends what gender means.
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Shut up, man.
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Miriam Webster.
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Um, if you were to check some of the leading dictionaries 20 years ago.
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Like race is the one that's changed.
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Yeah.
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So, um, so if the definitions are changing, it's really hard for us to even have a discussion
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on the topic.
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I view it, I view it as synonymous with, with sex.
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Chad, are these guys like raising their hands in class and like, well, actually just to
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play devil's advocate here, I think, and just to respond to the teacher's claim and what
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Susan was saying in the corner, I think, and I'm not really in sense of believing, but if
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I'm just going to play devil's advocate for a second, just for discussion's sake, Hitler
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wasn't really bad.
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And just to play devil's advocate was really the Holocaust a bad thing if you think about
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it.
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And I'm just, just to preface my opinion before I really offend anybody.
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And before I really, you know, people who just say a lot of shit without saying anything,
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it seems like this is what both of the guys standing here are saying.
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They like talking.
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They wanted to see the camera.
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I want to see someone triggered, bro.
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But if someone's going to get triggered, it's Portland.
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It's going to happen.
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But I mean, obviously there are people that are, you know, dysmorphic and they feel a different
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way.
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And I mean, ultimately people are, people have to be, they have to make choices for themselves
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and be responsible for themselves.
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Okay.
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So let me ask you a question.
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So let's say I'm thinking of someone specific and I'm sure you could think of someone too.
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Let's say that someone was born a male.
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In other words, they have a penis and functioning testes, but they're just super effeminate,
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super like, like crazy effeminate.
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They love dresses.
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They're flamboyant in their mannerisms.
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Would you say there, in that sense, gender was still synonymous with sex?
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From a biological standpoint, yes.
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From a social standpoint, no.
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Yeah, they're more, they're more, maybe more effeminate.
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From a biological standpoint, that doesn't change.
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Now, of course, there are surgeries that doesn't change chromosomes, but it changes the outward
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appearance.
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Okay.
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So how do we know whether or not to, whether or not to interpret that question set through
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the route, the lens of sex or through the realm of gender or culture?
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Like, how do we know how to interpret that?
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Like, why did you choose to stand in the agree?
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Good.
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Everybody's, no one's cheating.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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I chose based on my own definition.
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And a lot of people, especially now more and more people seem to have the opposite definition.
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They have a social definition of gender.
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They've completely separated it, whereas I haven't.
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Okay.
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I'm going to ask him, I'm going to ask him about that.
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So there are only two genders.
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Would you be willing to consider, and it's 100% okay if you're not, gender as synonymous
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with sex, like he said?
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It's like.
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Jack, quickly, like, this is going in circles.
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W or L, there's two genders, right?
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W, born with a dick or a pussy, you know what the fuck is going on.
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Can we just, like.
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Discussing?
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Like, just like.
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No, like, if I'm born with a penis and functioning testes, then gender and sex are identical in
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that case.
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There's not one L. We're all in agreement.
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We're all in agreement.
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Somebody's going to get triggered.
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I can see it at the peak of retention here.
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We're going to see it.
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I want to see some college kids get mad.
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Well, language is tricky.
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Indeed it is.
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Because to my understanding, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think that's
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his argument.
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Is that your argument, basically?
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That language is tricky?
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Or that those two things are synonymous?
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I agree with that, too.
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We're arguing over language.
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Yeah.
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So, in other words, I'm going to ask both of you guys.
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Hold on.
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We're not doing the game yet.
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You can come to the next round, though.
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You can come.
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Oh, you can jump in?
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Okay.
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Well, hold on.
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I'm going to come back to you.
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Okay.
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So, you want to jump in?
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Okay.
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So, you got to stand on a line.
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You can move anytime you want.
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Those are the only two rules now.
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You think you strongly agree there are only two genders?
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Are you a Portland State student?
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Yes, I am.
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Amazing.
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Okay.
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Tell us why you think that.
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I just think, I mean, like you were just saying, I think...
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Okay, let's skip to the trigger.
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An evidence, an argument, like what would it take for you to move, not all the way over
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there, just one line, just one line.
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I guess if they told me how many genders specifically there were, which I don't think they can do,
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in my opinion.
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So, I guess, I can't, I can't, I can't think of anything that would change my opinion, I
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guess, but...
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Oh, you're giving me the finger?
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Hi.
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I'm standing in front of the social work building.
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There we go.
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There's the middle fingers.
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There's the therapy.
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There's the triggered.
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I'm harming individuals by asking that question.
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What, you want to come down and have a conversation about it?
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Why, you want to come down and have a conversation?
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Oh.
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Okay, you have to go to your class, but you got time to yell on a roof.
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Okay.
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Chad, you think we did not see this?
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We just saw this identical video happen because woke people are very predictable.
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They say the same things over and over again.
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We did not see this.
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We saw it on the same place, though.
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This is a different group of triggered people get it triggered.
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I promise you.
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So, what would it take for you to move to the strongly agree?
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Okay, I don't want to see, like, three white dudes go back and forth about this angle.
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I, bro, it's a little bit boring.
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I want to see some women pop up and get triggered.
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Like I said, if we could all agree.
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I just want to say, like, that's part of the problem of where people aren't talking because
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if you talk about these hot-button issues, especially with gender ideology, I mean, people
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think that you're discounting them as a person.
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You know, that you're really harming people.
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And it's just, no, we're talking.
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I don't have any problem with anybody.
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All right, cool.
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There's two genders.
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Bye.
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That's it.
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This is your job?
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