SNEAKO - September 21, 2022


Questioning Woke People Is Harassment

Topics
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Hosted by
Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
Mentioned
Miriam Webster Andrew Tate Chad Peter Boghossian Andrew Tizzle Donald Trump Gender Hitler Susan Jack
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Length

11 minutes

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179.1

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2,018

Sentence count

247

Harmful content

Misogyny

9

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Toxicity

33

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Hate speech

16

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In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of whether or not there are only two genders. We have two sides of the argument and we have to agree or disagree on a set of facts and definitions. We also have a guest on the opposing side, Andrew Tate.

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00:00:00.000 There are only two genders. Thought experiment game with PSU students. 1.00
00:00:03.500 Peter Boghossian, this guy makes really good thought experiments on the street.
00:00:06.380 We're going to need to cleanse ourselves.
00:00:08.100 There are only two genders. Five, four, three, 1.00
00:00:11.320 I told you, it's a very complicated rule set.
00:00:16.420 There are only two genders. 0.99
00:00:19.500 Five, four, three, two, one, go.
00:00:26.560 Okay, agree, disagree. Okay.
00:00:29.280 Okay, so camo guys on the agree side, right?
00:00:32.500 You're dressed like you hunt.
00:00:33.740 I'm coming to you first. There are only two genders. 1.00
00:00:38.340 Tell us why you think that. What is your reason for that?
00:00:41.240 Well, this, like the other things we've discussed,
00:00:44.080 it really depends on we have to agree on a definition and a set of facts,
00:00:49.240 we as in the two sides opposing on the argument.
00:00:53.280 And the way I've understood it my whole life,
00:00:55.480 at least before I got to college,
00:00:56.920 is that gender was a synonym for sex, you know?
00:01:01.580 Oh, but gender is on a spectrum. 1.00
00:01:03.540 Gender is an ideology. It's a construct, right? 1.00
00:01:05.800 And so that's my view.
00:01:07.900 I have a biological view of it more than a social view.
00:01:10.500 Oh, wait, camo dude is on the other side?
00:01:13.140 Okay, and when you got to college,
00:01:14.440 they taught you something different.
00:01:15.640 Well, it's just, I mean, look, we had transgender.
00:01:20.520 Oh, so basically college.
00:01:21.680 Okay, no, no.
00:01:22.140 So he's on disagree and college has brainwashed him.
00:01:24.560 Like, that's what college does.
00:01:25.840 You don't learn anything.
00:01:26.620 You just get liberalized.
00:01:28.140 Gender students in high school.
00:01:31.580 But it was, it wasn't really the rule.
00:01:35.300 It was the exception.
00:01:36.300 It wasn't spoken about in terms of, like, a greater ideology.
00:01:41.400 And then when I got to college, of course, you know, that changed.
00:01:45.680 Okay.
00:01:46.480 Okay.
00:01:47.100 When I went to college, I got brainwashed.
00:01:48.420 There are only two genders. 0.99
00:01:49.920 You will agree, and I'm going to move this just a little bit,
00:01:53.160 if that's okay, so we can see the disagree.
00:01:55.020 And you would disagree.
00:01:56.080 Tell us why you disagree.
00:01:57.200 Um, from the definitions I've read with gender, I think it, I mean, it's not the same as sex.
00:02:05.260 Just, uh, oh, camo dude thinks that? 0.99
00:02:08.180 Wait, what the fuck? 0.99
00:02:09.320 Social versus biology. 0.99
00:02:11.720 Okay, so, um, where did, where did the definitions come from?
00:02:16.500 Oh, well, I'm well uneducated.
00:02:18.400 But, um, like the dictionary or a gender studies book or Google.
00:02:24.800 Okay, that's cool.
00:02:25.600 So, um, uh, but when you Google, when you Google stuff, you get all different kinds of answers, though, no?
00:02:34.740 It depends.
00:02:35.540 I mean, whenever it comes to definitions, you look up a word and you type in definition.
00:02:39.760 Oh, and there's a one, that first one, like a Webster's comes up?
00:02:42.580 Yeah, the type thing, yeah, yeah.
00:02:43.820 And, you know, you'll get, like, one through whatever number.
00:02:50.440 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:50.840 Different definitions, usages.
00:02:53.180 Yeah.
00:02:53.980 Okay, all right, cool.
00:02:54.920 So, um, so you think there are more than two genders or one gender or?
00:03:00.140 Well, gender, gender has more than one definition.
00:03:02.820 And, uh, for discussion's sake, I choose to go with, um, non, like, non-specific sexual way whenever it comes to gender.
00:03:14.360 Okay, so.
00:03:15.820 Am I dumb for being confused? 0.94
00:03:17.540 Like, what the hell is he talking about? 0.98
00:03:18.960 He thinks that there's more than one gender, right? 0.56
00:03:20.840 Camo guy?
00:03:22.040 You're supposed to be shooting ducks and watching Duck Dynasty. 1.00
00:03:24.200 What the fuck? 1.00
00:03:24.880 For you. 1.00
00:03:25.480 You look like you have a Facebook profile picture if you win sunglasses and you vote for Donald Trump.
00:03:29.160 Like, what the hell are you doing on this side of the spectrum, bro?
00:03:30.940 Um, how do you interpret this question?
00:03:33.840 There are only two genders. 0.99
00:03:36.720 Uh, there are two sexes.
00:03:38.500 I think there are more than two genders. 1.00
00:03:41.460 Is, are sex and gender synonymous to you?
00:03:44.360 Depends on the definition of gender.
00:03:46.360 What?
00:03:46.620 And what's yours?
00:03:48.060 Uh, definition of gender?
00:03:49.360 Yeah.
00:03:50.240 He doesn't know.
00:03:50.760 Take your time.
00:03:52.200 I'm putting you on the spot.
00:03:53.360 Bro, I feel like I'm slow right now, but I don't understand.
00:03:55.880 Is he just trying to be devil's advocate? 0.99
00:03:57.280 Like, what the fuck is this fucking Andrew Tate looking guy talking about? 0.99
00:04:00.240 Oh, thank you. 1.00
00:04:00.800 All right.
00:04:01.260 So.
00:04:03.000 You look like hick Andrew Tate.
00:04:06.140 It's, to me, how you, it's, it's a personal thing where you.
00:04:10.500 Andrew Tizzle.
00:04:11.420 You, uh, you kind of, how you define yourself on a sexual level, like in a mentality of,
00:04:17.300 like, the way that you view others on a sexual level as well, it's not quite so biological.
00:04:24.220 Okay.
00:04:26.120 Does it come down to, uh, how you define yourself?
00:04:31.980 Um.
00:04:32.600 Or is this the whole thing?
00:04:33.980 Which, okay.
00:04:34.860 That's the whole question.
00:04:35.040 Yeah, that's the whole question.
00:04:36.100 I think I want to, I want, I don't want to misgender anybody. 0.99
00:04:38.880 You said he, right?
00:04:40.180 Yeah.
00:04:41.260 So, so whatever he, so he asked a good question.
00:04:44.140 How do you define gender?
00:04:45.400 Like, what is the definition of that to you?
00:04:47.780 Um, I still view it as synonymous with the term sex, but I think more recently, I mean,
00:04:55.160 you've literally seen the definitions change in the dictionary.
00:04:57.860 I feel like both these guys know the truth that there's two genders, but they were just 1.00
00:05:00.780 bored and standing outside of college campus and wanted to play in this game. 0.99
00:05:03.840 They know what the fucking truth is. 0.97
00:05:05.320 That other guy doesn't really have a stance. 0.99
00:05:06.500 Like, it depends what gender means. 1.00
00:05:08.260 Shut up, man. 0.99
00:05:09.240 Miriam Webster. 0.99
00:05:10.180 Um, if you were to check some of the leading dictionaries 20 years ago.
00:05:13.860 Like race is the one that's changed.
00:05:16.080 Yeah.
00:05:16.680 So, um, so if the definitions are changing, it's really hard for us to even have a discussion
00:05:21.920 on the topic.
00:05:22.580 I view it, I view it as synonymous with, with sex.
00:05:26.380 Chad, are these guys like raising their hands in class and like, well, actually just to
00:05:29.740 play devil's advocate here, I think, and just to respond to the teacher's claim and what
00:05:34.300 Susan was saying in the corner, I think, and I'm not really in sense of believing, but if
00:05:38.820 I'm just going to play devil's advocate for a second, just for discussion's sake, Hitler 0.99
00:05:42.060 wasn't really bad.
00:05:43.440 And just to play devil's advocate was really the Holocaust a bad thing if you think about 0.90
00:05:47.320 it.
00:05:47.400 And I'm just, just to preface my opinion before I really offend anybody. 0.98
00:05:50.160 And before I really, you know, people who just say a lot of shit without saying anything, 0.96
00:05:54.420 it seems like this is what both of the guys standing here are saying. 0.98
00:05:56.960 They like talking.
00:05:57.680 They wanted to see the camera.
00:05:59.080 I want to see someone triggered, bro.
00:06:00.340 But if someone's going to get triggered, it's Portland.
00:06:01.920 It's going to happen.
00:06:02.580 But I mean, obviously there are people that are, you know, dysmorphic and they feel a different
00:06:07.120 way.
00:06:08.080 And I mean, ultimately people are, people have to be, they have to make choices for themselves
00:06:12.720 and be responsible for themselves.
00:06:14.180 Okay.
00:06:14.420 So let me ask you a question.
00:06:15.400 So let's say I'm thinking of someone specific and I'm sure you could think of someone too.
00:06:19.720 Let's say that someone was born a male. 1.00
00:06:21.600 In other words, they have a penis and functioning testes, but they're just super effeminate, 1.00
00:06:26.760 super like, like crazy effeminate. 1.00
00:06:29.500 They love dresses. 0.85
00:06:31.180 They're flamboyant in their mannerisms.
00:06:33.440 Would you say there, in that sense, gender was still synonymous with sex?
00:06:42.100 From a biological standpoint, yes.
00:06:44.280 From a social standpoint, no. 0.79
00:06:50.060 Yeah, they're more, they're more, maybe more effeminate.
00:06:54.340 From a biological standpoint, that doesn't change.
00:06:57.020 Now, of course, there are surgeries that doesn't change chromosomes, but it changes the outward
00:07:02.760 appearance.
00:07:03.980 Okay.
00:07:04.240 So how do we know whether or not to, whether or not to interpret that question set through
00:07:10.780 the route, the lens of sex or through the realm of gender or culture?
00:07:14.940 Like, how do we know how to interpret that?
00:07:17.120 Like, why did you choose to stand in the agree?
00:07:19.740 Good.
00:07:20.040 Everybody's, no one's cheating.
00:07:21.180 That's good.
00:07:21.920 Yeah.
00:07:22.080 I chose based on my own definition.
00:07:24.480 And a lot of people, especially now more and more people seem to have the opposite definition.
00:07:29.380 They have a social definition of gender.
00:07:30.840 They've completely separated it, whereas I haven't.
00:07:35.260 Okay.
00:07:35.800 I'm going to ask him, I'm going to ask him about that.
00:07:37.640 So there are only two genders. 0.94
00:07:40.560 Would you be willing to consider, and it's 100% okay if you're not, gender as synonymous
00:07:48.400 with sex, like he said?
00:07:51.960 It's like. 0.98
00:07:53.100 Jack, quickly, like, this is going in circles.
00:07:55.240 W or L, there's two genders, right? 1.00
00:07:57.800 W, born with a dick or a pussy, you know what the fuck is going on. 1.00
00:08:01.360 Can we just, like. 1.00
00:08:02.780 Discussing?
00:08:03.260 Like, just like. 0.99
00:08:04.480 No, like, if I'm born with a penis and functioning testes, then gender and sex are identical in 0.99
00:08:16.440 that case. 0.99
00:08:16.800 There's not one L. We're all in agreement. 1.00
00:08:18.900 We're all in agreement.
00:08:19.620 Somebody's going to get triggered.
00:08:20.520 I can see it at the peak of retention here.
00:08:22.180 We're going to see it.
00:08:22.820 I want to see some college kids get mad.
00:08:24.120 Well, language is tricky.
00:08:29.120 Indeed it is.
00:08:32.400 Because to my understanding, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think that's
00:08:35.980 his argument.
00:08:36.520 Is that your argument, basically?
00:08:39.420 That language is tricky?
00:08:41.020 Or that those two things are synonymous?
00:08:43.080 I agree with that, too.
00:08:43.860 We're arguing over language.
00:08:44.980 Yeah.
00:08:45.780 So, in other words, I'm going to ask both of you guys.
00:08:48.660 Hold on.
00:08:48.980 We're not doing the game yet.
00:08:50.220 You can come to the next round, though.
00:08:51.660 You can come.
00:08:52.380 Oh, you can jump in?
00:08:53.580 Okay.
00:08:54.300 Well, hold on.
00:08:54.900 I'm going to come back to you.
00:08:55.740 Okay.
00:08:56.100 So, you want to jump in?
00:08:57.040 Okay.
00:08:57.980 So, you got to stand on a line.
00:08:59.940 You can move anytime you want.
00:09:01.700 Those are the only two rules now.
00:09:03.200 You think you strongly agree there are only two genders?
00:09:06.060 Are you a Portland State student?
00:09:07.380 Yes, I am.
00:09:08.280 Amazing.
00:09:08.600 Okay.
00:09:09.580 Tell us why you think that.
00:09:13.520 I just think, I mean, like you were just saying, I think...
00:09:16.860 Okay, let's skip to the trigger.
00:09:18.340 An evidence, an argument, like what would it take for you to move, not all the way over
00:09:22.120 there, just one line, just one line.
00:09:24.680 I guess if they told me how many genders specifically there were, which I don't think they can do,
00:09:31.460 in my opinion.
00:09:32.320 So, I guess, I can't, I can't, I can't think of anything that would change my opinion, I
00:09:40.880 guess, but...
00:09:42.080 Oh, you're giving me the finger?
00:09:46.340 Hi.
00:09:50.060 I'm standing in front of the social work building.
00:09:54.580 There we go.
00:09:55.680 There's the middle fingers.
00:09:56.920 There's the therapy.
00:09:58.000 There's the triggered.
00:09:58.720 I'm harming individuals by asking that question.
00:10:04.200 What, you want to come down and have a conversation about it?
00:10:10.440 Why, you want to come down and have a conversation?
00:10:13.320 Oh.
00:10:14.780 Okay, you have to go to your class, but you got time to yell on a roof.
00:10:17.860 Okay.
00:10:18.320 Chad, you think we did not see this?
00:10:19.980 We just saw this identical video happen because woke people are very predictable.
00:10:23.580 They say the same things over and over again.
00:10:26.080 We did not see this.
00:10:26.940 We saw it on the same place, though.
00:10:28.720 This is a different group of triggered people get it triggered.
00:10:30.920 I promise you.
00:10:31.840 So, what would it take for you to move to the strongly agree?
00:10:40.140 Okay, I don't want to see, like, three white dudes go back and forth about this angle. 0.51
00:10:43.020 I, bro, it's a little bit boring.
00:10:43.900 I want to see some women pop up and get triggered. 1.00
00:10:46.200 Like I said, if we could all agree.
00:10:50.580 I just want to say, like, that's part of the problem of where people aren't talking because
00:10:54.980 if you talk about these hot-button issues, especially with gender ideology, I mean, people
00:10:59.740 think that you're discounting them as a person.
00:11:02.940 You know, that you're really harming people.
00:11:04.600 And it's just, no, we're talking.
00:11:06.060 I don't have any problem with anybody.
00:11:08.000 All right, cool.
00:11:08.860 There's two genders. 1.00
00:11:09.680 Bye.
00:11:09.860 That's it.
00:11:15.460 This is your job?